If you want an in-universe reason: Considering when you acquire them, you're fighting a last stand on Mar Sara after General Duke arrested your entire militia.
They are most likely the criminal elements of Mar Sara that you either made a deal with to reinforce your troops, or otherwise strongarmed into helping you against the Zerg.
Considered Marines are almost universally brainwashed criminals, it's not out there.
That's basically what I said, except that the Magistrate said it.
As an aside, the mission where you destroy Raynor's base as Kerrigan is probably a good point to consider the Magistrate dead. Makes more sense than him just randomly fricking off from the story like Blizzard had.
That or just make him Horner.
They're probably more like Raynor's subordinates. Travelling lawmen like in the Wild West going out from outpost to outpost not to maintain order but to act as judges. Dealing with shit like drunkenness and fights that local police handle. Like you have to imagine that there is a very small contingent of Colonial Marines on Mar-Sara and most of them will be posted with Raynor. There isn't like some token squad of Marines just sitting out there in bum-frick mining camp there's going to be local police. The local Marines would be the cavalry that Raynor sends out.
I really can't imagine conventional small-gang criminals existing in this universe given how fricking hard it would be to get anything necessary for survival: food, shelter, tech, bullets. And how easy it would be to wipe them out. The bare-minimum for criminal enterprise would have to have totally reliable supply chains with off-world capacity and massive amounts of equipment like the Sons of Korhal.
I disagree, the Confederacy and the entire aesthetic/concept of the Terrans means that small time gangs and criminals are all over the place.
There's space pirates, Tarsonis had massive gangs. Marines are canonically resoc criminals.
I feel like the setting would fit for both big and small time gangs. I mean, why would a huge gang have major operations out in the boonies of Mar Sara? Maybe a secret base, but for the most part (if we consider the map as canon) the capital would have its own band of lowlifes on motorcycles, some bigger gangs, and its own mafia like boss. I don't think they'd all take orders form some criminal in Tarsonis, but they might know a guy that knows people from there.
So in general Terran Vultures sound like they'd either be former criminals and thugs Raynor deputized, or they'd be criminals that the Magistrate walked in on with a squad of marines and said "join or die" when the Zerg came knocking on his doorstep.
Among other things, a small criminal organization cannot run without electricity, fuel, and batteries all of which require a high level of independent infrastructure that no single person or small group could easily afford or maintain. The government has Space Marines with gear that clearly outclasses whatever a gang could maintain and even if stolen is basically impossible to repair. The existence and use of Ghosts demonstrates that the authoritarian government has no problem whatsoever putting down any group that impedes on their authority, which is exactly what a criminal organization is.
The Sons of Korhal are a former government and it's easy to imagine whatever infrastructure and expertise that wasn't nuked could be taken. All the other organizations the Confederacy considers "criminal" are massive governments in of themselves with entire planets under their control.
You're describing some shitty gang in the wild getting around on Vultures. They cannot maintain electricity, fuel, food, bullets, anything necessary to survive. It simply makes no sense that any gang can rise up from nothing.
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Anon, Terran Marine armor is explicitly something that every colonial militia has access to. It's so low tier shit garbage that even criminal organizations have it in abundance.
Now Mar Sara is a backwater, but look at the map in the defense mission. That's an honest to god city that they're trying to evoke, think something like Vegas. There's plenty of ground for a grassroutes criminal organization.
You're also arguing against canon. The Confederacy doesn't give a shit about criminal organizations on their capital world until they learn that they have a level 13 psychic (Nova) under their control, then they wipe them out with a battalion of Terran marines.
There are plenty of organizations and even an effective nation outside of the bounds of the confederacy. There are numeorus corporations that have more power than the confederacy.
In fact, Mengsk's Dominion was a notable departure from the hands off approach that the Confederacy had. Yes the Confederacy nuked planets that tried to leave, yes they were totalitarians, but they also were hated for when they actually refused to use their supreme power to involve themselves in affairs.
Mengsk's rule actually had everything centralized under himself in a true totalitarian dictatorship with himself as Emperor. It wasn't until after he was dethroned and lost his army that he actually had to walk back his control over the corporations in order to rebuild his army. He had to make deals and give away power and that is actually why many terrans lives started going to shit. It's ironic but the lore is that Mengsk was power hungry and prideful, but he was also insanely competent. When he had to give up control of things, was when people's lives started getting worse.
Starcraft used to be nuanced.
3 months ago
Anonymous
BRO HE THREW AWAY KERRIGAN, HE'S A VILLAIN!!!!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder how many fans are aware that Kerrigan and a couple other ghosts cut off the faces of his father, mother, and (sister?) and wore them like party masks.
3 months ago
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w-what?
3 months ago
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Kerrigan killed Mengsk's family back when Mengsk was a confederate patriot. They did this because his father wanted Korhal to gain independence. Due to this, Mengsk led a rebellion and Korhal got super-nuked.
Kerrigan then spent her life being a test subject (memories wiped post mission) for Zerg porn vids in a confederate lab. Mengsk and the Proto sons of Korhal saved her and she joined up with them. After she helped Mengsk kill the other ghosts that killed his family, she learned she had been involved and cried her eyes out (because she was 120% loyal to mengsk by this point) and felt she owed him a life debt.
That's why she was so gung ho about that Terran mission despite Raynor's complaints. She felt she owed Mengsk for forgiving her and saving her despite the fact that she ruined his life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Kerrigan then spent her life being a test subject (memories wiped post mission) for Zerg porn vids.
3 months ago
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they put her in a room filled with zerg creep and occasionally tried to get her to psionically interact with a zerg larvae iirc.
That's the no meme answer.
Pretty sure it was in the Liberty's Crusade book.
3 months ago
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bawdcraft is canon
3 months ago
Anonymous
they put her in a room filled with zerg creep and occasionally tried to get her to psionically interact with a zerg larvae iirc.
That's the no meme answer.
Pretty sure it was in the Liberty's Crusade book.
or maybe I Mengsk, it's been a LONG time since I read these books.
i wonder what the Zerg porn videos looked like. for laughs haha.
like a larvae doing the womb on her tummy.
3 months ago
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i wonder what the Zerg porn videos looked like. for laughs haha.
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3 months ago
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>low tier shit garbage
You have never fixed something in your life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon it's not my opinion, it's in-universe canon. Take it up with Blizzard's writers.
3 months ago
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>You're describing some shitty gang in the wild getting around on Vultures. They cannot maintain electricity, fuel, food, bullets, anything necessary to survive. It simply makes no sense that any gang can rise up from nothing.
Mar Sara has entire cities, infrastructure, and facilities. The criminals live in these major population centers. It's where they get their bikes, it's where they push their narcotics, its these spaceports that they smuggle their weapons. It's these dive bars where they hang out.
Anon, what the frick are you talking about?
>In the pipe, five by five
In the pipe means "in process" and five by five is radio lingo rating quality and clarity of a radio signal on a 1-5 scale. She's basically saying that she's on the way and receiving clear radio communication
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"We're in the pipe, five by five"
"The phrase "five by five" can be used informally to mean "good signal strength" or "loud and clear" - Wikipedia
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as other anon pointed out they're mercs
also the terran confederacy was made out of criminals or close descendants of them, because Earth sent a bunch out them bastards hybernated for sience and exploration
thats how they've managed to get so so far away of our solar system
i dont remember if it was said in game, but in the manual, definetly
i know, who cares about the printed stuff, but back in the day in the late 90s there were heavy lore in the manuals
and thats what the sequel and later interpretations get wrong: they're not spacecowboys, rednecks
the terrans of the koprulu sector is a society made out of heavy and not so heavy criminals
a very wild wild west, with regular gang wars, with just a spice of american order
Eh, it depends on what planet they're from
Raynor is basically a Sheriff over frontier cowboy/redneck/truckers
But other organisations such as the Kel-Morian are all criminal/war criminals
Then you have the Umojan's who are basicly Sweden
Eh, it depends on what planet they're from
Raynor is basically a Sheriff over frontier cowboy/redneck/truckers
But other organisations such as the Kel-Morian are all criminal/war criminals
Then you have the Umojan's who are basicly Sweden
Remember that Raynor is also an ex convict, though I am not sure if that is something that SC2 introduced or if it was already established in the background lore beforehand.
In the first few missions in SC1 he and the Magistrate (player) burned down an infested command center. General Duke then arrested and detained Raynor for "destroying a vital confederate outpost". He then gets sprung by Arcturus' men when we complete the next mission after that.
I love Metzen's old art. It reaks of that edgy high schooler who never properly learned to draw but that wasn't going to stop him style. He had bigger ideas then his own talent really could muster, but I find it enduring because of that.
Too bad they promoted him out of the role he was actually good at.
Yeah same, I absolutely love this kind of shit. I liked that even in the cutscenes, all the marines look completely unique armor wise and have all different decals and stuff
I love the 2000AD armor decals and graffiti, I wish 40K kept it since there really isn't anything sci-fi out there that has it in spite of being such a cool concept
>wants to be a cool biker after earth launched all the bikers to space >A few generations pass >suddenly out of left field have to deal with the nightmarish Zerg bullshit >also have to deal with skinny blue aliens blowing the frick out of colonists >Plus your bike is on fire and your base is going to be overrun by Zerg in a few minutes
Terrans in the original campaign were freedom-loving colonials. They hated feds, but they hated the Zerg a little more. Vulture riders weren't military men but bikers and mercs.
This point was lost in Starcraft 2.
In general the aesthetics of the protoss are absolute trash in SC2.
Out of the 3 factions, I think that SC2 ruined the protoss the most overall. Zerg remained more or less the same after the whole bs with Kerrigan was over an done with by the end of Legacy of the Void, but that expansion fundamentally shat over the protoss lore and society, by removing the Khala, removing their caste system, and making them into fricking californian libshits but in SPESH in all but name.
what annyoys the hell out of me are the less distorted voices of them in sc2
i always imagined that a race who speaks telepathicly to a lesser race like we humans, it would sound extremely harsh and brutal, almost pain inducing...
like in sc1 😀
All the factions of SC2 look like cartoony warcraft shit, but Terran lore was more or less kept intact troughout SC2. Zerg lore got fricked with, but the biggest frickery was with the primal zerg and around Kerrigan, whereas the overall swarm still more or less kept it's core character and the more individualistic queens were basically just a new iteration of Cerebrates, that were more mobile and no longer tied to a central controlling intelligence of the overmind. In principle, the swarm still operates as a hostile, invasive legion of alien bugs as they did in SC1.
The protoss got completely shafted by the end of SC2 both aesthetically as well as lorewise.
The unique features of their society, including Khala, their caste system, their tribal distinctions and what not were all erased in favor of the whole gay fricking "diversity is our strenght" bs.
"Primal" zerg and retconning the entire planet of Zerus was really bad. Per the SC1 manual it's a barren ash planet, where the Xel'naga First blessed some resilient parasitic slugs. Species belonging to the zerg army are complete mutants compared to their original forms, in addition to being collected from across the galaxy... WHY were they all on Zerus like some moronic Noah's ark, and why were they already mutated? I'm just spitballing here but I could picture Zerus being home to gigantic tunneling cerebrates (canonically they are just bigger versions of the original zerg slugs). I have no idea why it became a fricking jungle.
There has always been a man in the missile turret. Just as there has always been a missile turret. I’ve lived in this village for 20 years, and the turret on the hill has been there. Watching over us.
When I was young, I asked my father, “Father, why is there a man in the missile turret?” He said, “I don’t know, son, he’s just always been there. He was there when I asked my father the same question, and maybe he was there before that.”
“Does anyone ever talk to him?”
“Nobody, Son.”
“Why not?”
“Because we’re afraid.”
“Afraid of what?”
“Of the man. And the missiles.”
Well I was not afraid of the man. Not any more. It’s my 20th birthday today, and I’m going to talk to the man. And ask him why he’s always been there. I’m standing on the cliff over looking the village now, and the man and the turret are just 50 feet or so behind me. The wind howls around me. I can almost feel it trying to push me over the cliff, as if warning me. Warning me to stay away, warning me to leave things as they are.
I turn around and walk towards the turret. I yell out for the man, but the wind steals my voice, and I don’t know if he can hear. I hold my hand up above my eyes to shield them from the sun. I cannot make out the man’s features. He must be at least 70 or 80 years old, by now. Maybe older. Nobody in the town remembers a day when he wasn’t there.
Finally, I approach the feet of the turret. As I do, I can hear it whir to life as the turret turns to face me. There is a man in the turret. There has always been a man in the missile turret.
He is as old as I expected him to look. Wrinkled, wizened, balding. He looks down at me. He doesn’t say a word. I don’t say a word either. He just looks down at me, and offers his hand.
>the distressing realization that every missile turret had a dude in it
I noticed these a long time ago from playing the game so much and observing the sprites. Though I do wonder how come the Vultures don't wear helmets in the portrait and they must be wearing some kind of space suit for the harsh environments.
Probably heard this a million times but I'm one of the "Goliath is wearing a black and yellow striped helmet over his head" guys
Now that I know it's a bald dude, I can't unsee it
Good example of good vs bad art
Left looks more menacing than right
Despite them giving right an angrier expression and spookier angled goggles
Left's eyes stood out more, the larger goggles look more inhuman, the reflections on the mask look creepy, the lack of detail makes him look darker, and the larger rebreathers all combine to make him look like a creepy insect
That's all lost on the right one
this thread is depressing, starcraft 1 is 26 years old already and it's still better than most RTS games made since. it's like we're in a videogaming dark age.
Kerrigan was great in Brood War, she was a wild card making plays and backstabbing people all over the place and most importantly she was having a blast while doing it, sort of like Palpatine in the prequels. You can tell both of these characters enjoy being buttholes and that makes them fun, hate how they went the "battered housewife" route with Kerrigan in SC2, much like how they tried to redeem Sylvanas the same way.
Brood war Kerrigan and Cata era Sylvanas were fun villains. Always thought it was funny how you spend the first two campaigns in BW getting the terran/protoss back on their feet only to tear them down again as Zerg.
The backstab mission where you kill Fenix and Duke was great drama for the time.
I agree, but I would argue that the poor writing in SC2 did more to ruin her character than the voice acting. She did fine given what she had to work with, but there's only so much you can do with a character who becomes literally Space Jesus
But the writing was dead by Wings of Liberty, because they had already started writing the characters (kerrigan especially) like comic book villains or at the very least like they were writing for fantasy.
Kerrigan started sounding like "ooooh, I'm so eeeeevil" instead of a pissed of chick going on a power trip from being zerg and in control of the swarm. There was always a smug spiteful energy to her, especially with how petty she was towards Mengsk. Hell even her victory speech in Brood War sounded like she was finally coming down from the high and was basically justifying everything to herself. "y-yea I'll let them go, so I can test their resolve later totally. I didn't just have a moment of sobriety and realize this shit was all pointless. I'M THE QUEEN OF BLADES I WON'D EVER BE HURT AGAIN!
Just listen to her voice when Raynor calls her out for being a murdering psycho. She sounds like a kid being reprimanded and she just bites back "you don't know what you're talking about!"
Then you have Duran, the most fantasy/comic book like villain in the OG and he really comes off more like a madman or fanatical cult leader in the reveal rather than what he would later become. I don't know if I'm quite explaining my thoughts correctly, but there was a distinct shift in tone that changed "how the message was received" even if they had written everything the same way in 2 as they had in Brood War.
Take the Hansin finale for example, if you don't side with her, that ending cutscene was the closest that Wings of Liberty got to feeling like OG Starcraft. The OG was pretty campy at times, but when it wasn't they went all in on the sci fi horror.
Starcraft 2 was a space fantasy.
Doesn't the first trailer only include Mengsk's narration and then finished by Tychus' "HELL, IT'S ABOUT TAAAHM"
That first anon is a little mixed up, it wasn't the first trailer bit it was the original version of the Zeratul versus Hydralisks fight cinematic trailer that was originally shown at Blizzcon 2008
Here is the original one with Glynnis Talken Campbell
(Kerrigan has one line all the way at the very end): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqx_a_PaPEk
Here is the much more widely distributed version with Tricia Helfer: https://youtu.be/qsmcBpmr9zQ
While I agree Helfer kind of sucks, Campbell sounds like an old lady so I understand why the made the change.
>While I agree Helfer kind of sucks, Campbell sounds like an old lady so I understand why the made the change.
I prefer the hag voice. Kerrigan should sound like an evil old witch lady even if she's a permanently young sexy alien babe.
>Campbell sounds like an old lady
I think she sounds exactly like she did in SC1.
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Anonymous
maybe, maybe its just the higher fidelity
but her laugh especially sounds like an old crone laugh
whether you prefer the old voice or not is almost irrelevant, because it doesn't fit the totally new characterization of Kerrigan in SC2, so the real question is if you prefer the new characterization - to which the answer is a pretty unanimous "no"
>Terran are criminals/descended from criminals that exiled a bunch of prisoners from Earth that have put together machinery made with the sole purpose of blowing one another up, as well as whatever threats they need to deal with >Shocked when half of them are snide and act like buttholes to their commanding officer, especially when most of them are practically fodder to be thrown at the enemy and you have to deal with a (pre-SC2) parasitical species that mutates faster than any known medicine and aliens with advanced laser beam tech.
I don't care what anyone at Blizzard says, Kerrigan was black. Frick, you'd think that they would have leaned in on that since they actually had a well written black character who's personality wasn't just "I'm black".
Didn't really matter in that era of vidya. A brown character, no matter the ethnicity, was just considered brown. So they just turned the redhead into a cute, white redhead in SC2.
Honestly, I don't even think they would have needed to justify it. Black women getting nosejobs to look more white isn't a new concept. Especially back when SC was made.
Duran is pajeet sir
I always thought he was a black Frenchman. Looking it up now, I see his name is Samir, so you may be right. I don't recall knowing his first name back in the Broodwar days. Did he have a first name back then, or did I just not know it?
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I don't care what anyone at Blizzard says, Kerrigan was black. Frick, you'd think that they would have leaned in on that since they actually had a well written black character who's personality wasn't just "I'm black".
When I was a kid I thought they were directly referencing Angelina Jolie apparently playing an albino Black person in Gone in 60 Seconds
>that movie came out a year AFTER Starcraft
okay now I'm baffled
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Anonymous
> I'm baffled
I literally just explained it in a post you quoted, moron. It was an edgy white subculture, nothing to do with Black folk.
I was always confused by this as a kid, she looked totally different on the cover, in the menu, in the cinematic and in game, I had no clue what she was actually supposed to look like, but I always went with the cover
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I don't care what anyone at Blizzard says, Kerrigan was black. Frick, you'd think that they would have leaned in on that since they actually had a well written black character who's personality wasn't just "I'm black".
You brought this up yesterday and I can't unsee it. There is no interpretation of that portrait that I can see as white.
I wasn't here yesterday, but have been saying this for years. Pretty much since SC2 came out.
My only theory is that they didn't want the main antagonist to be a black woman, which when trying to think like someone at Blizzard trying to appease the colored hair mafia, I can understand. So they whitewash her. Then they go and make her not a villain because there was a secreter bigger evil and she was actu... FRICK I hated the writing in SC2.
Raynor is is a crazy guy when you think about it. He's leading a group of convicts and various other morons against two alien races, one of which outnumbers them an insane amount and the other has vastly superior technology. Then he has to worry about a civil war in his own faction AND a freaky ass cult. What a guy.
You don’t actually think everyone is a convict in Australia, right? Many are descendants of convicts, same in StarCraft. Dial down that moronation a bit. I believe Space Marines/firebats were convicts though who were given the choice of joining or execution.
Plus people forget just how many Terrans exist in the Koprulu sector. They absolutely have enough criminals to turn into a standing army of brainwashed cannon fodder.
>Protoss: >Busy playing space pest control, glassing planets >High tech but everything got scrubbed after the racism wars >Slowly digging their tech out piece by piece >Too busy with their work to even sex humans despite knowing about them on koprulu for quite some time (???????????????????????????) >Every single unit is important to them because they're dying or some shit, fricking space elves >Does not have civillian caste, everyone is on cleanup duty because of the zerg, the insurrections, the rebels, etc
>Zerg >Busy gathering their wienerroaches sleeping all over the sector to launch an alpha strike on the Protoss after a gorillion years of overmind keikaku >Army consists of a big brain puppeteering wild animals that shit and piss everywhere >Every time they grow in numbers they get glassed >Even their strongest critters can't pull through because the blue frickers keep teleporting away to their home planet that the overmind is trying to find for fricking ever
>Terrans >Space convicts sent to space australia. Earth became an utopia after Australia got exiled to Koprulu >Massive social problems, genetic problems, tech problems. Whatever tech scrap they have from Earth somehow lets them survive for a few hundred years without crossing paths with the space jannies >Except one day they do, SCI starts
Not considering that Earth has the superior tech to curbstomp all three factions plus the space manatees, the Terrans are in a very favorable situation despite being between giant monster jaws and psychic ultra indians.
Keep in mind Protoss tech is mostly created for times in peace, and a lot of tech has to be repurposed for combat. Terran are all about fighting so their tech is mostly focused around murdering their enemies. Also Space is just big enough that it took them awhile to reach other parts where the Zerg and Protoss are having their issues.
This is probably just head canon, but I think it was a traditional thing, like nobility being trained to be martial knights when they weren’t ever actually going to go to battle.
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WE LIKE IT TOO, SIR!
Duran is pajeet sir
>"""sir""" is like 3 seconds later, in the middle of someone else's line
Every fricking time. That shit is the real ear worm.
as a kid I always heard
NEED A LAT-I-TUDE, SIR!
(be delighted to sir!)
>REPORTING FOR DUTY, SIR! >PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR, SIR! >SIR, YES, SIR! >EXECUTING YOUR ORDERS, SIR! >LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER, SIR! >IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE THE IMPERIUM, SIR! >WE DID IT, SIR! >Chaos... What do we do, sir? >SIR?! SIR?! WHAT DO WE DO?! >WE WON'T LET YOU DOWN, SIR!
>what did blizzard mean by this
He is a Macross (well, Robotech) referece.
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And while Macross has its own yamato, they couldn't be more direct with the naming of that gun.
Battlecruiser is simply the weeb unit. Just like the Goliath was done by a Battletech fan.
the fact that the UEF wasn't a separate faction from the Terrans always annoyed me. It's so silly that state of the art technology from earth is exactly the same as the cobbled together shit developed by convicts who were literally dumped into space to die
ASL just started again, i think we're in top 8 now or something? they don't do live english casts anymore so you have to watch the vods that get recorded and posted the day after.
Where the frick is the Group D VOD? They played like a week ago and it's still not out, what the frick are they doing that they can't sit down for a 2 hour casting session?
group selection is monday so ro16 games will be the following week
ASL just started again, i think we're in top 8 now or something? they don't do live english casts anymore so you have to watch the vods that get recorded and posted the day after.
there are live english casts streamed on afreeca, but yeah you can check the english vods on starcasttv youtube
make a bunker in front of my expansion asap and put some scv's on razing duty
then get ready for goons to come and blast your bunker as you repair it for dear life
Dude I played so much of this shit as a kid. Just making random campaigns and trying the ones other people did. Playing all sorts of shit. Loved this game. Never played online though. I should go back and play 1 and Broodwar's campaigns
>75 minerals >for an 80 hp unit that comes with 3 spidermines (if you upgrade for 100/100) that do 125 direct impact damage in an aoe
what the frick were they thinking?
>50 minerals, 200 gas >infinite mana >spell that annihilates everything in a large radius >spell that makes everything immune to ranged damage in a large radius (except your own defilers)
gas is way more valuable than minerals and if you're moving to ultraling + defilers terran has probably already researched mines and started producing vultures. and now you're stuck sacrificing control groups of lings just to defuse some mines
Time/APM is the third resource, this is why everything you do at high level must be efficient. This is also the level why you very rarely if ever should really micro, because your APM is almost always better spent macroing, setting up or even just scouting well than doing marginally better in some skirmishes. Of course, there are excuses when its absolutely required, like reaver micro.
A zerg doing well is always going to be able to afford a+moving those goldfish poop control groups of lings across the map, both from minerals, spare larva and APM just to defuse minefields and be a nuisance as it takes more APM to defend effectively against them and it hinders terran positioning too. Not to mention that sometimes you can just sucker punch games when the ling groups just overrun a third or fourth because the terran was careless for a moment.
The Terran faction consisted of prisoners and outlaws for the most part. It should be expected that they'd be resistant to any sort of command chain and only really doing it to survive.
>Zerg audio was so souless in SC2. What a disapointment. Actually, sound direction in SC2 was overall pretty bad
Absolutely. A couple of zerglings attacking your wall-in sounded terrifying in BW, like you absolutely can't let them in or you're screwed.
But in SC2 it sounds like somebody's throwing rotten tomatoes at your door. Absolutely limp.
This. Look at fricking SC1, like the ultralisk. Its sound, its short, impatient, bullish roars tell you everything about its personality and its intended role. It is practically begging you to just sent it to the frontline to facetank an entire army, but it also sounds real, like the believable sounds of a space mammoth would make.
Meanwhile, in SC2 all it does is weird space burping and over-effected shitty SFX. It just sounds stupid and takes you out of the game,
Killing Floor has the same problem, especially the fleshpound. The voice lines in the first game are way more gritty and gnarly in a way, in the sequel there's almost too much production value and the final result feels very generic.
You do make me think: If I was ridiculously rich enough to just form my own dev teams out of thin air, would I seriously have to give them just barely enough funding, push as many hours as I can out of them, and just the right amount of creative freedom to get them to create bangers like the old days?
It feels like the good only comes from limits, like how older kids media actually had really good writing and mature stories/deep concepts because the writers couldn't just have the characters say "frick".
some budget/cheap moves like using generic assets is awful so you have to strike a balance between restriction and freedom + have a laser focused vision
its also why people love established rules and worldbuilding that makes sense within the context of the story and dislike it when authors go full moron betraying their own writing because of too much creative freedom without focus
maybe like 2 autists working in tandem
oh i'm aware of LTG. but he's a whole fricking schizo character in of himself. all i know about artosis is that he plays starcraft and nothing else. it's not like there's BWC gay fanfiction coming from artosis every second day lol
It's not just the rage, though that's certainly fun too. It's refreshing to see a 40 something year old "normal" guy with a family who can compete with the Korean bugpeople. Plus, I'm a Terran main, so I like watching high level Terran play. It's why I don't really watch Tasteless as much since he plays Toss
Absolutely. He's former pro, but anyone who can move to Korea and hit S rank on their ladder (again, while being 40+ and has a wife and kids) certainly qualifies as high level. He's genuinely better than 95% of players
damn alright, that i had no idea about. i thought he was just a average skilled player which in turn means nothing in the grand scheme of things of starcraft brood war
There was a time where he was arguably the best starcraft player in North America. He then travelled to Korea with the intent of going pro.
He is no longer the best in North America (top 10, top 20 maybe?) and has no hope of making it in Korean tournaments but he's still a fairly high level player with decades of experience in the game.
The last time I looked at Artosis a Korean-English announcer was backseating him and had to explain to him that Artosis' build order was over a year old and that nobody was playing that way anymore. It means he's been playing bad for over a year and the whole time cried like a baby about it.
Like, I don't know any better obviously. And crying like a b***h over every single thing and being toxic garbage in chat is enough to make me detest the guy. But to actually stream and not be up to date on the tech blaming every loss on everyone but himself? What the frick is wrong with the guy?
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>The last time I looked at Artosis a Korean-English announcer was backseating him and had to explain to him that Artosis' build order was over a year old and that nobody was playing that way anymore. It means he's been playing bad for over a year and the whole time cried like a baby about it.
Broodwar is asiaticclick for a reason, mechanics trump strategy all the way up to pro level.
Artosis style has always been play a predictable style and try to win through superior mechanics on long drawn-out games, much like IdrA.
3 months ago
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>mechanics trump strategy all the way up to pro level.
Lmao, shitters coping will never get boring.
What is the solution to the deathball problem?
What deathball? Brood War doesn't have them and SC2 is dead already.
3 months ago
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cope
3 months ago
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it's funny to contrast the artosis ASL commentary with the live cast >artosis: OH MY GOD THAT IS SUCH A GENIUS WALL I'M GETTING NERD CHILLS TASTELESS >starcast: lol he fricked up his wall, that doesn't block anything
3 months ago
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Yeah it's like Bob Saget stand-up versus Full House.
3 months ago
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>taking bantz this seriously
Literally and unironically autistic
there was a funny moment on his stream where he says something like "I'm 40 years old, have 4 kids, and I'm sitting here at 2 in the morning angry at a korean man for using the wrong strategy"
>"him"
why say it like that lmao >but I like watching people play starcraft
yeah understandable. can imagine you don't have much to choose from when it comes to starcarft/brood war personalities tbh >the people spamming his TTS send my sides into orbit.
what do they tend to say and how does he tend to react?
artosis is a funny case because most streams that I've seen have fans donating money hoping the streamer will thank them for it. artosis's fans donate money to shit on him or to try to distract him with erotic sesame street fanfics.
Ghost went from my favorite unit to most hated just from this look and voice actor.
Then I discovered specters and learned they were everything I loved about the old ghost.
Seriously can someone fricking explain that sound effect? I always thought they were burning people alive in there because that's where Fire bats come from
Buddy, you realize a lot of the units have had some type of augmentation to them, right? Just look at the Ghost. Ocular Implants? They are performing invasive surgery without anesthetic.
ghosts are elite spec ops, not "trainees". marines are literal cannon fodder and they still drug them up. drugs are obviously not in short supply.
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But why waste them?
3 months ago
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it gives them psychic powers
3 months ago
Anonymous
What? Either way I'm not wasting drugs to install neural inhibitors on my marines.
3 months ago
Anonymous
why do you think using anesthetics for their intended purpose is a "waste"? why would utilizing any drug in any measure for any amount of benefit be a waste when those drugs are clearly in overabundance?how would traumatizing your military with excruciatingly painful and invasive surgeries with no anesthetic benefit you? it costs 100 minerals and 100 gas to research stimpacks, then they become infinitely usable at no cost. an infinite supply of performance enhancing drugs for your entire population costs less than the manufacture of a single siege tank.
3 months ago
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Because it's a grimdark setting where life is pretty low on the expense list. Also because it makes you all sensitive and homosexual and I think it's funny.
3 months ago
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the fact that you think someone explaining to your dumb ass exactly why you're wrong and moronic homosexual is "making them all sensitive and homosexual" says more about you than it does about them
3 months ago
Anonymous
Head canon b***h, see how it goes both ways? Suck my dick you dumb inbred homosexual.
3 months ago
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Okay, Milo
I got some Egyptian cotton to sell you
3 months ago
Anonymous
Starcraft != Warhammer 40k
Why waste good drugs on trainees that could die?
>Why waste good drugs on trainees
ghosts are elite spec ops, not "trainees". marines are literal cannon fodder and they still drug them up. drugs are obviously not in short supply.
>ghosts are elite spec ops, not "trainees"
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>Starcraft != Warhammer 40k
Either because they couldn't afford it or wouldn't pay the ludicrous price for the license.
Ghosts are a dime a dozen shitbags who end up psycho killing themselves more often than the enemy. With fricking unrestricted nuclear access, butthole.
I think my favorite Starcraft book (in hindsight, a lot were bad) was the one about the Terran that god a Terran dommy mommy Protoss stuck in his head.
Fenix's portrait gave a pretty clear view of what Protoss looked like
But then Tassadar's and Aldaris' portraits fricked up my perception because Tassadar had that weird ass hole on his forehead and the shadow below Aldaris' eyes looked like a mouth
>heroes
Protoss in general, the original gray matter looking alien heads with mysterious glowing eyes is way better than remastered/SC2 protoss. Bring back the lumpy aliens, not MK mask wearing wannabes.
Is it worth checking out the remastered for a replay? Or is it just shit? Tired of trying to find a crt at a decent price to do a replay so I was thinking I might as well do the remaster.
The portraits are the only bad thing about the remaster, all the QoL stuff is great and the game is easier to read
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I disagree with the last part
Is it easier to see what the sprites are meant to represent? Yes
Does it have a higher visual clarity when it comes to quickly recognizing units or actions in the heat of a complex combat situation? Absolutely not, and it's mostly because the ground textures look like a fricking magic eye painting
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Any mods to restore portraits? playing it now and it’s really kind of annoying. Never heard of StarCraft mods so probably not.
The remaster lets you toggle all the new v old stuff so just A/B it and see what you like
I personally think the remaster is way too over-detailed and too busy but some of the big starcraft players that I know personally who I say that to think I'm insane
and I like to play anything pre-2002 on a CRT (pic related, a ~2008 LaCie Electron Blue) but don't let that hold you up - It's not gonna magically make you enjoy the game more
>old portrait >cast in shadow with bright orange eyes, foreshadowing the forthcoming conflict with the Conclave, the Khala, and Aldaris himself >wrinkled complexion shows Aldaris as an older, presumably "wiser" Protoss
>new portrait >bright general lighting and blue decorative lighting overpowering the frame takes away from the shadows and striking eyes of the original. Foreshadowing lost >Completely smooth complexion makes him look young. Portrait would easily serve an actually young Protoss like Artanis equally well
Everything after Starcraft 1 was terribly written, and I'm including Brood War too.
>dude what if Kerrigan magically was able to manipulate and fool every single person in the entire conflict, and somehow beat all of them singlehandedly because YAS QUEEN BADASS WOMYN
because Chris Metzen is a shit writer, he had little involvement with SC vanilla, but he did write most stuff in BW. He ruined starcraft like he ruined diablo
They didn't expect Kerrigan to be a evil c**t rather than a mind controlled evil c**t. What's funny is the excuse for the UED having just Terran tech for gameplay reasons.
Well at least they planned to make the UED the contractually obligated Expansion pack overpowered faction (ala Yuri faction from Red Alert 2) before realizing building and balancing a new tech tree was too hard.
they do something similar in Legacy of the Void where they show them rebuilding Auir, and it's all warpgates and nexus's and stargates and it's like motherfricker this is AUIR - where we used to warp in FROM, what the frick are you doing
Even in the remaster he looks like a completely different person. I don't know why they changed Raynor so much either. It's like Blizzard's idea of what Raynor "looks like" differs from seemingly everyone else's headcanon
I don't know why they're so insistent on making the Terran tech so Apple-Kosher looking. The original opening to starcraft had a group of pirates looking through some shitty tv screens like you'd see in a recording booth for an old horse race track.
The soldiers form the infamous cold fusion scene all had heavily modified and personalized armor that was obviously not uniform, the kind of getup that gave the impression that it's just barely being held together through modifications, a real scrap heap tech base.
That was the appeal of the Terrans, they had some high tech toys but it was all juryrigged to make it work. Just like how the original colonies were built by cannablizing the colony ships and trying to rebuild the tech base.
For all we knew, Earth Terrans could have been tech equals of the Protoss. Not that it would have mattered.
>make the power armor twice the size for no reason
why is blizzard like this, now the head size just looks silly, if he put the helmet on his head doesn't even reach half of it. Meanwhile SC1
why did raynor look like william petersen on SC1 and old matt mercer on SC2? I never understood why they changed him so much
Also the cowards didn't put any of Jimmi's decals on.
Yeah same, I absolutely love this kind of shit. I liked that even in the cutscenes, all the marines look completely unique armor wise and have all different decals and stuff
this
after 20-something years of videogames i went back to starcraft and project diablo 2
i'm tired of everything else
it might be the "i wanna settle down now" of men
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Ghost Program, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the Protoss, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire Confederate armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of ghosts across the Confederacy and your psi energy is being traced right now so you better prepare for the nuke, maggot. The nuke that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Terran Confederate Covert Ops and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
fixed
>the first video title
I swear people on this planet are fricking moronic to not know what stock sound/music are.
Can't find the video but people accused LOTR for stealing sound bites from Warcraft 3, the sound of peasant dying to be exact.
there's a certain sound effect of wood breaking that I remember first hearing in Sim City 2000 during riot disasters that freakin haunts me
I hear it all the time in TV shows and it's all over the Dark Souls series when you roll through some crates or whatever
it's the last one in this video
yeah once you clock it once you'll just hear it god damn everywhere from now on
it's the sound of the piece of wood bouncing at the end as it trails off
Even having played SC2 and knowing that you are correct doesn't save this sentence from reading like shitty fanfiction. It's a goddamn shame what those hacks did to Starcraft's story
I always thought SC1 Zerg were way more terrifying looking than the ones in SC2. They went too hard on the insect like qualities in SC2 (especially with fricking roaches, what a disgrace of a design) and were less fleshy monsters.
Honestly as a child I used to have night terrors thanks to a few X-Files episodes and one of the DVD menus from one of the (I'm pretty sure) aliens movies witht he weird flesh pods.
So the gooey fleshy aesthetic of the first game was 100% more creepier than the boring bug hive shit of 2.
They messed up by putting more spines and spikes on everything. They're supposed to be apex predators, which, if you look at nature, (ex. sharks, wolves, big cats) they should be sleek killing machines. Spikes are for prey animals, animals that got fricked up all the times and eventually evolved a way to defend themselves. Spiked animals are not hunters. I guess you could argue the zerg evolved spikes as they were needed, but some moron artist at blizzard thought SPIKES = SCARY when it's the opposite.
i love starcraft broodwar so much. it's the only game my younger brother was good enough to beat me. he was always the "here's the controller bro" button masher but something clicked for him in SC and he was able to eventually beat me and get better ranking in ladder. he would also watched all the tournaments and copy thier strats.
>What the frick was his problem?
He knows he is the most expendable unit after marines and firebats. They know they'll die when you send them in groups lesser than 9.
he's the defacto leader of the android protoss sub-faction
basically the conclave put downloads of the brains of protoss heroes into robots, so its a whole faction of robot protoss
so its a Fenix who eventually renames himself - he doesnt remember Jim or Kerrigan, but he does remember Artanis and Tassadar
From a writing standpoint, it's pretty inoffensive. It's nice to hear Fenix's voice again and Legacy of the Void's biggest achievement is essentially building up 4 extremely distinct subfactions of the Protross very quickly to give the player lots of unit variations to choose from
Starcraft 2's story had a good "end point", which is probably a good thing since Blizzard is a shell of its former self and there's not even a rumor about a "Starcraft 3" on the horizon. We may never get a Starcraft 3. If we do, I would imagine it would be a new story with new characters since the Raynor/Kerrigan/Mengsk/Zeratul story concluded in one way or another in SC2.
A troony player
>"damn pol posters injecting their politics into unrela-"
>mfw
they're mercs
So they're getting paid? They have to be even nicer then
Do you want the spider minefield or not?
Contract didn't say anything about sucking up to a 30 APM shitter boss
>mine"field"
>3 mines
nah I'm sending you to die just to see if the zerg have built a mutalisk hatchery yet
2 minerals per hour
Mercenaries are historically buttholes
Only wagies have to be nice (suck up) to their boss to survive. Freelancers can do whatever they want.
If you're paying them, that means you are the one that needs them. They can always find a different employer.
If you want an in-universe reason: Considering when you acquire them, you're fighting a last stand on Mar Sara after General Duke arrested your entire militia.
They are most likely the criminal elements of Mar Sara that you either made a deal with to reinforce your troops, or otherwise strongarmed into helping you against the Zerg.
Considered Marines are almost universally brainwashed criminals, it's not out there.
My head canon is Raynor tells them "Be deputized, be executed, or be eaten."
That's basically what I said, except that the Magistrate said it.
As an aside, the mission where you destroy Raynor's base as Kerrigan is probably a good point to consider the Magistrate dead. Makes more sense than him just randomly fricking off from the story like Blizzard had.
That or just make him Horner.
They're probably more like Raynor's subordinates. Travelling lawmen like in the Wild West going out from outpost to outpost not to maintain order but to act as judges. Dealing with shit like drunkenness and fights that local police handle. Like you have to imagine that there is a very small contingent of Colonial Marines on Mar-Sara and most of them will be posted with Raynor. There isn't like some token squad of Marines just sitting out there in bum-frick mining camp there's going to be local police. The local Marines would be the cavalry that Raynor sends out.
I really can't imagine conventional small-gang criminals existing in this universe given how fricking hard it would be to get anything necessary for survival: food, shelter, tech, bullets. And how easy it would be to wipe them out. The bare-minimum for criminal enterprise would have to have totally reliable supply chains with off-world capacity and massive amounts of equipment like the Sons of Korhal.
I disagree, the Confederacy and the entire aesthetic/concept of the Terrans means that small time gangs and criminals are all over the place.
There's space pirates, Tarsonis had massive gangs. Marines are canonically resoc criminals.
I feel like the setting would fit for both big and small time gangs. I mean, why would a huge gang have major operations out in the boonies of Mar Sara? Maybe a secret base, but for the most part (if we consider the map as canon) the capital would have its own band of lowlifes on motorcycles, some bigger gangs, and its own mafia like boss. I don't think they'd all take orders form some criminal in Tarsonis, but they might know a guy that knows people from there.
So in general Terran Vultures sound like they'd either be former criminals and thugs Raynor deputized, or they'd be criminals that the Magistrate walked in on with a squad of marines and said "join or die" when the Zerg came knocking on his doorstep.
Among other things, a small criminal organization cannot run without electricity, fuel, and batteries all of which require a high level of independent infrastructure that no single person or small group could easily afford or maintain. The government has Space Marines with gear that clearly outclasses whatever a gang could maintain and even if stolen is basically impossible to repair. The existence and use of Ghosts demonstrates that the authoritarian government has no problem whatsoever putting down any group that impedes on their authority, which is exactly what a criminal organization is.
The Sons of Korhal are a former government and it's easy to imagine whatever infrastructure and expertise that wasn't nuked could be taken. All the other organizations the Confederacy considers "criminal" are massive governments in of themselves with entire planets under their control.
You're describing some shitty gang in the wild getting around on Vultures. They cannot maintain electricity, fuel, food, bullets, anything necessary to survive. It simply makes no sense that any gang can rise up from nothing.
Anon, Terran Marine armor is explicitly something that every colonial militia has access to. It's so low tier shit garbage that even criminal organizations have it in abundance.
Now Mar Sara is a backwater, but look at the map in the defense mission. That's an honest to god city that they're trying to evoke, think something like Vegas. There's plenty of ground for a grassroutes criminal organization.
You're also arguing against canon. The Confederacy doesn't give a shit about criminal organizations on their capital world until they learn that they have a level 13 psychic (Nova) under their control, then they wipe them out with a battalion of Terran marines.
There are plenty of organizations and even an effective nation outside of the bounds of the confederacy. There are numeorus corporations that have more power than the confederacy.
In fact, Mengsk's Dominion was a notable departure from the hands off approach that the Confederacy had. Yes the Confederacy nuked planets that tried to leave, yes they were totalitarians, but they also were hated for when they actually refused to use their supreme power to involve themselves in affairs.
Mengsk's rule actually had everything centralized under himself in a true totalitarian dictatorship with himself as Emperor. It wasn't until after he was dethroned and lost his army that he actually had to walk back his control over the corporations in order to rebuild his army. He had to make deals and give away power and that is actually why many terrans lives started going to shit. It's ironic but the lore is that Mengsk was power hungry and prideful, but he was also insanely competent. When he had to give up control of things, was when people's lives started getting worse.
Starcraft used to be nuanced.
BRO HE THREW AWAY KERRIGAN, HE'S A VILLAIN!!!!!
I wonder how many fans are aware that Kerrigan and a couple other ghosts cut off the faces of his father, mother, and (sister?) and wore them like party masks.
w-what?
Kerrigan killed Mengsk's family back when Mengsk was a confederate patriot. They did this because his father wanted Korhal to gain independence. Due to this, Mengsk led a rebellion and Korhal got super-nuked.
Kerrigan then spent her life being a test subject (memories wiped post mission) for Zerg porn vids in a confederate lab. Mengsk and the Proto sons of Korhal saved her and she joined up with them. After she helped Mengsk kill the other ghosts that killed his family, she learned she had been involved and cried her eyes out (because she was 120% loyal to mengsk by this point) and felt she owed him a life debt.
That's why she was so gung ho about that Terran mission despite Raynor's complaints. She felt she owed Mengsk for forgiving her and saving her despite the fact that she ruined his life.
>Kerrigan then spent her life being a test subject (memories wiped post mission) for Zerg porn vids.
they put her in a room filled with zerg creep and occasionally tried to get her to psionically interact with a zerg larvae iirc.
That's the no meme answer.
Pretty sure it was in the Liberty's Crusade book.
bawdcraft is canon
or maybe I Mengsk, it's been a LONG time since I read these books.
like a larvae doing the womb on her tummy.
i wonder what the Zerg porn videos looked like. for laughs haha.
>low tier shit garbage
You have never fixed something in your life.
Anon it's not my opinion, it's in-universe canon. Take it up with Blizzard's writers.
>You're describing some shitty gang in the wild getting around on Vultures. They cannot maintain electricity, fuel, food, bullets, anything necessary to survive. It simply makes no sense that any gang can rise up from nothing.
Mar Sara has entire cities, infrastructure, and facilities. The criminals live in these major population centers. It's where they get their bikes, it's where they push their narcotics, its these spaceports that they smuggle their weapons. It's these dive bars where they hang out.
Anon, what the frick are you talking about?
Not even. They're force conscripted convicts with behaviour implants
>click on him
>press delete
You can't delete units in Starcraft
surprised it took 6hrs before someone noticed
It's because the unit got deleted
Do you really think anyone here is old enough to even remember Starcraft?
Just a shadow. The whole portrait has very stark shadows
I forget what he is. Vulture guy?
They're bikers, they resent taking orders.
>you wanna piss on me, boy?
Kek
Always thought this guy was like, tied to something (below his head)
I always thought he was saying you want a piece of meat boy?
Nothing video game related will ever be funnier to me than this shit. I might be moronic, but it’s a comfy moronic.
>Jacked-off and good to go.
My wife for hire
This was funnier before people unironically became cucks and let their wives start onlyfans and frick other men.
The SCVs always sounded so timid.
I always felt bad bossing them around.
Is he the one that would say something similar to:
>rose-eating
I never understood the line.
PROCEEDING, you moron
I honestly didn't know that. I thought he said something like "roseing" and it's some slang or a reference.
it's kind of like an accent thing, he just drags out the pro part. PRO-CEEDING
It's more of an exaggerated military cadence. He does the same thing with
>DEE-lighted to, SIR
I hear it now, but I never even heard the P in the beginning and the D or G in the end
Blizzard is wonderful for misheard lines and whatever the frick those warcraft icons were supposed to be.
say that to my parrot b***h not online see what happens
In the pipe, pie pie pie
this is the only one i couldnt figure out what the frick she was saying
watch aliens again
>In the pipe, five by five
In the pipe means "in process" and five by five is radio lingo rating quality and clarity of a radio signal on a 1-5 scale. She's basically saying that she's on the way and receiving clear radio communication
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"We're in the pipe, five by five"
"The phrase "five by five" can be used informally to mean "good signal strength" or "loud and clear" - Wikipedia
no, that's the siege tank
WE LIKE IT TOO, SIR!
I MAKE A FAT TARGET
as a kid I always heard
NEED A LAT-I-TUDE, SIR!
(be delighted to sir!)
He just wanted to drive on the open road.
yeah i read ya,
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I laughed a lot, and you deserve a (you)
as other anon pointed out they're mercs
also the terran confederacy was made out of criminals or close descendants of them, because Earth sent a bunch out them bastards hybernated for sience and exploration
thats how they've managed to get so so far away of our solar system
i dont remember if it was said in game, but in the manual, definetly
i know, who cares about the printed stuff, but back in the day in the late 90s there were heavy lore in the manuals
and thats what the sequel and later interpretations get wrong: they're not spacecowboys, rednecks
the terrans of the koprulu sector is a society made out of heavy and not so heavy criminals
a very wild wild west, with regular gang wars, with just a spice of american order
Eh, it depends on what planet they're from
Raynor is basically a Sheriff over frontier cowboy/redneck/truckers
But other organisations such as the Kel-Morian are all criminal/war criminals
Then you have the Umojan's who are basicly Sweden
sure, there are some good guys, specially when the player got to have a protagonist like reynor, marshall of thoose parts XD
Remember that Raynor is also an ex convict, though I am not sure if that is something that SC2 introduced or if it was already established in the background lore beforehand.
I read the lore books before SC2 came. Didn't say anything about him being a convict afair. They were also really bad.
Arent they all the descendants of the criminials ? And not the criminals themselfs
you've heard of original sin, but now there's original crime
They're descendants of whatever undesirables were exiled from the UPL, from common crooks, mutants, psychics, cyborgs and political dissidents.
In the first few missions in SC1 he and the Magistrate (player) burned down an infested command center. General Duke then arrested and detained Raynor for "destroying a vital confederate outpost". He then gets sprung by Arcturus' men when we complete the next mission after that.
So that makes him an ex-convict.
I spent a lot of time pawing through videogames manuals as a kid. Really enjoyed the mini sci-fi novel describing the Terran origins in particular
the manual was great, it had a bunch of metzen art and was my bathroom reading as a kid for years
imagine the smell
just your standard outlaw biker dude having issues with authority figures
i can forgive him since vultures are such based units
I love Metzen's old art. It reaks of that edgy high schooler who never properly learned to draw but that wasn't going to stop him style. He had bigger ideas then his own talent really could muster, but I find it enduring because of that.
Too bad they promoted him out of the role he was actually good at.
the concept art was such a huge hook for me for whatever reason, totally has that 'highschool book cover drawing' appeal to it
metzen always had that "I want to be a comic book artist", no wonder overwatch went full capeshit
>confederate flag
ohnonononono
was Metzen always secretly a chud
bro thats the terran confederacy flag
yeah and this swastika is the Kraut Reich swastika
>moron doesnt even know starcraft lore
>guys this swastika totally isn't real it's part of the reich lore!!!1
the confederate flag wasnt a le heckin ebil nazi symbol until Trump got elected
Did you even play the game?
can you please have a nice day?
his belt buckle also says "BAD" so you know he's a bad guy
How many overwatch characters existed before the turn of the century?
You think Metzen thought to himself "man this guy sucks a mean dick" back in 98?
Compare this image with the SC2 raynor doing the same. The difference is literally light and day, dozens of small details telling you everything.
Yeah same, I absolutely love this kind of shit. I liked that even in the cutscenes, all the marines look completely unique armor wise and have all different decals and stuff
reminds me of battletech art
I love the 2000AD armor decals and graffiti, I wish 40K kept it since there really isn't anything sci-fi out there that has it in spite of being such a cool concept
>valkerie
>don't keep me waiting
>you are being very naughty
>who's your mommy?
Muh dick!
>wants to be a cool biker after earth launched all the bikers to space
>A few generations pass
>suddenly out of left field have to deal with the nightmarish Zerg bullshit
>also have to deal with skinny blue aliens blowing the frick out of colonists
>Plus your bike is on fire and your base is going to be overrun by Zerg in a few minutes
We can hide out in these bunkers if things get too dicey
Terrans in the original campaign were freedom-loving colonials. They hated feds, but they hated the Zerg a little more. Vulture riders weren't military men but bikers and mercs.
This point was lost in Starcraft 2.
Khassar de templari...
Why did the rounded chin of the Protoss become a fricking horn in 2? It looked so much better in 1.
In general the aesthetics of the protoss are absolute trash in SC2.
Out of the 3 factions, I think that SC2 ruined the protoss the most overall. Zerg remained more or less the same after the whole bs with Kerrigan was over an done with by the end of Legacy of the Void, but that expansion fundamentally shat over the protoss lore and society, by removing the Khala, removing their caste system, and making them into fricking californian libshits but in SPESH in all but name.
what annyoys the hell out of me are the less distorted voices of them in sc2
i always imagined that a race who speaks telepathicly to a lesser race like we humans, it would sound extremely harsh and brutal, almost pain inducing...
like in sc1 😀
terran got butchered in SC2 and look like a cartoony warcraft faction instead
All the factions of SC2 look like cartoony warcraft shit, but Terran lore was more or less kept intact troughout SC2. Zerg lore got fricked with, but the biggest frickery was with the primal zerg and around Kerrigan, whereas the overall swarm still more or less kept it's core character and the more individualistic queens were basically just a new iteration of Cerebrates, that were more mobile and no longer tied to a central controlling intelligence of the overmind. In principle, the swarm still operates as a hostile, invasive legion of alien bugs as they did in SC1.
The protoss got completely shafted by the end of SC2 both aesthetically as well as lorewise.
The unique features of their society, including Khala, their caste system, their tribal distinctions and what not were all erased in favor of the whole gay fricking "diversity is our strenght" bs.
"Primal" zerg and retconning the entire planet of Zerus was really bad. Per the SC1 manual it's a barren ash planet, where the Xel'naga First blessed some resilient parasitic slugs. Species belonging to the zerg army are complete mutants compared to their original forms, in addition to being collected from across the galaxy... WHY were they all on Zerus like some moronic Noah's ark, and why were they already mutated? I'm just spitballing here but I could picture Zerus being home to gigantic tunneling cerebrates (canonically they are just bigger versions of the original zerg slugs). I have no idea why it became a fricking jungle.
afaik the protoss treated themsleves as majestic warriors, so some newly added ornaments by the artist like the chin caps are fine with me
But the chins themselves are much smaller and pointier than the design in 1. It looks like a Pharaoh beard more than a strange chin.
>Wtf humans have rounded chins, when did they stop having giant protruding golden caps
No one's paying you to be a dumbass
YOU THINK AS I DO
Which translates to "My wife for hire".
Starcraft really was the last abstract sprite kino
I always thought Vultures were small enclosed craft, like fighter jets with no wings
But nope, that guy is just hangin' out in the air
Yeah, I thought the red oval on the right was the wienerpit
>the distressing realization that every missile turret had a dude in it
HUSH!
or they'll add 1 supply to it in the next patch XD
or worse, an operator has to be manually added like the bunkers 😀
You don't have to worry, he's been dead since you built it, with the constant G-forces
no fricking way
No no no no no no no
That cant be true, this must be edited or something
There has always been a man in the missile turret. Just as there has always been a missile turret. I’ve lived in this village for 20 years, and the turret on the hill has been there. Watching over us.
When I was young, I asked my father, “Father, why is there a man in the missile turret?” He said, “I don’t know, son, he’s just always been there. He was there when I asked my father the same question, and maybe he was there before that.”
“Does anyone ever talk to him?”
“Nobody, Son.”
“Why not?”
“Because we’re afraid.”
“Afraid of what?”
“Of the man. And the missiles.”
Well I was not afraid of the man. Not any more. It’s my 20th birthday today, and I’m going to talk to the man. And ask him why he’s always been there. I’m standing on the cliff over looking the village now, and the man and the turret are just 50 feet or so behind me. The wind howls around me. I can almost feel it trying to push me over the cliff, as if warning me. Warning me to stay away, warning me to leave things as they are.
I turn around and walk towards the turret. I yell out for the man, but the wind steals my voice, and I don’t know if he can hear. I hold my hand up above my eyes to shield them from the sun. I cannot make out the man’s features. He must be at least 70 or 80 years old, by now. Maybe older. Nobody in the town remembers a day when he wasn’t there.
Finally, I approach the feet of the turret. As I do, I can hear it whir to life as the turret turns to face me. There is a man in the turret. There has always been a man in the missile turret.
He is as old as I expected him to look. Wrinkled, wizened, balding. He looks down at me. He doesn’t say a word. I don’t say a word either. He just looks down at me, and offers his hand.
I have always been the man in the missile turret.
Beautiful.
Not a dude, its a robot. It uses zero supply, so it cannot be a human.
That's because you're moronic. The original sprites very clearly had some guy sitting on it.
>very clearly
Yes, very clearly. I could tell what it was as a young kid with a shitty CRT monitor.
wow how impressive
Sorry you're literally, medically moronic and can't comprehend simple shapes.
I noticed these a long time ago from playing the game so much and observing the sprites. Though I do wonder how come the Vultures don't wear helmets in the portrait and they must be wearing some kind of space suit for the harsh environments.
Probably heard this a million times but I'm one of the "Goliath is wearing a black and yellow striped helmet over his head" guys
Now that I know it's a bald dude, I can't unsee it
he wearing pic, i dont care
A yellow striped helmet that's the same color as his ears and neck?
Good example of good vs bad art
Left looks more menacing than right
Despite them giving right an angrier expression and spookier angled goggles
Left's eyes stood out more, the larger goggles look more inhuman, the reflections on the mask look creepy, the lack of detail makes him look darker, and the larger rebreathers all combine to make him look like a creepy insect
That's all lost on the right one
nothing got botched as bad as the defiler portrait tbh
>coolface.jpg
Only reason I knew a guy was sitting open was the Raynor sprite.
if you read the manual you'd know
>small enclosed craft
maybe thats why they looked so weird when turning. maybe knowing the guy is in the middle makes it look less like a toy
this thread is depressing, starcraft 1 is 26 years old already and it's still better than most RTS games made since. it's like we're in a videogaming dark age.
In this day and age I'm replaying Warcraft 2 and having the time of my life. Many of the newer RTSes don't interest me in the slightest
>had no idea what the hell Kerrigan looked like
>but knew it was SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Doesn't take a psychic to know what you're thinking.
just hearing her talk during the mission briefing in campaign is a no brainer, she was purposefully made for sexooo
SC1 Kerrigan had such a distinctive and memorable performance that I'm actually still mad they fired her in SC2 to hire le meme Battlestar woman
Me too. Pure betrayal.
Kerrigan was great in Brood War, she was a wild card making plays and backstabbing people all over the place and most importantly she was having a blast while doing it, sort of like Palpatine in the prequels. You can tell both of these characters enjoy being buttholes and that makes them fun, hate how they went the "battered housewife" route with Kerrigan in SC2, much like how they tried to redeem Sylvanas the same way.
Brood war Kerrigan and Cata era Sylvanas were fun villains. Always thought it was funny how you spend the first two campaigns in BW getting the terran/protoss back on their feet only to tear them down again as Zerg.
The backstab mission where you kill Fenix and Duke was great drama for the time.
I remember feeling legitimately betrayed by it, especially because you had to do the betrayal. I really liked Fenix and dragoons in general as a kid
I agree, but I would argue that the poor writing in SC2 did more to ruin her character than the voice acting. She did fine given what she had to work with, but there's only so much you can do with a character who becomes literally Space Jesus
But the writing was dead by Wings of Liberty, because they had already started writing the characters (kerrigan especially) like comic book villains or at the very least like they were writing for fantasy.
Kerrigan started sounding like "ooooh, I'm so eeeeevil" instead of a pissed of chick going on a power trip from being zerg and in control of the swarm. There was always a smug spiteful energy to her, especially with how petty she was towards Mengsk. Hell even her victory speech in Brood War sounded like she was finally coming down from the high and was basically justifying everything to herself. "y-yea I'll let them go, so I can test their resolve later totally. I didn't just have a moment of sobriety and realize this shit was all pointless. I'M THE QUEEN OF BLADES I WON'D EVER BE HURT AGAIN!
Just listen to her voice when Raynor calls her out for being a murdering psycho. She sounds like a kid being reprimanded and she just bites back "you don't know what you're talking about!"
Then you have Duran, the most fantasy/comic book like villain in the OG and he really comes off more like a madman or fanatical cult leader in the reveal rather than what he would later become. I don't know if I'm quite explaining my thoughts correctly, but there was a distinct shift in tone that changed "how the message was received" even if they had written everything the same way in 2 as they had in Brood War.
Take the Hansin finale for example, if you don't side with her, that ending cutscene was the closest that Wings of Liberty got to feeling like OG Starcraft. The OG was pretty campy at times, but when it wasn't they went all in on the sci fi horror.
Starcraft 2 was a space fantasy.
the very first sc2 trailer had the original voice actress.
Doesn't the first trailer only include Mengsk's narration and then finished by Tychus' "HELL, IT'S ABOUT TAAAHM"
That first anon is a little mixed up, it wasn't the first trailer bit it was the original version of the Zeratul versus Hydralisks fight cinematic trailer that was originally shown at Blizzcon 2008
Here is the original one with Glynnis Talken Campbell
(Kerrigan has one line all the way at the very end): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqx_a_PaPEk
Here is the much more widely distributed version with Tricia Helfer: https://youtu.be/qsmcBpmr9zQ
While I agree Helfer kind of sucks, Campbell sounds like an old lady so I understand why the made the change.
>While I agree Helfer kind of sucks, Campbell sounds like an old lady so I understand why the made the change.
I prefer the hag voice. Kerrigan should sound like an evil old witch lady even if she's a permanently young sexy alien babe.
>Campbell sounds like an old lady
I think she sounds exactly like she did in SC1.
maybe, maybe its just the higher fidelity
but her laugh especially sounds like an old crone laugh
whether you prefer the old voice or not is almost irrelevant, because it doesn't fit the totally new characterization of Kerrigan in SC2, so the real question is if you prefer the new characterization - to which the answer is a pretty unanimous "no"
Reminder that they were going to Axe OG Raynor too.
invisible glory holes
>I read ya *giggles*
Man that Stacy energy of knowing exactly what her commanding officer was thinking and her saying she knows without saying.
>Terran are criminals/descended from criminals that exiled a bunch of prisoners from Earth that have put together machinery made with the sole purpose of blowing one another up, as well as whatever threats they need to deal with
>Shocked when half of them are snide and act like buttholes to their commanding officer, especially when most of them are practically fodder to be thrown at the enemy and you have to deal with a (pre-SC2) parasitical species that mutates faster than any known medicine and aliens with advanced laser beam tech.
WARP FIELDS STABILIZED
Damn i loved how these guys always sounded so sophosticated
LETTUCE ATTACK
Soviet.
What is growing out of his neck
Is it supposed to be a beard
Ascot, maybe?
It is a beard, yes. It's just hard to tell because of how pixelated it is.
I don't know what the style is called, but it's basically a goatee that they have grown out into a cone.
All the Terran’s were convicts, so it’s so surprise they are rude and uncouth.
BLREEUAGH
REEAGH
I just love clicking on Overlords.
Seriously what was his problem?
Obesity and acne.
He has a coffee bean butt, you'd stop caring about looks too if that's what you were born with.
Man these things were terrifying.
Also reminded me of the Chex Quest guys.
why did they remove the barcode from the human head on the remaster?
>full sexo in promotional material
>looks like a crackhead ingame
>Yes, Cerebrate?
She looks like Nina Dolono.
The sex symbol thing was added after SC1. Note how they changed her look in the remaster.
>The sex symbol thing was added after SC1
the most moronic thing is that the zerg did not sexo her.
do I have a game for you
Is this even in a playable state?
last time I tried it had a bunch of stuff, could waste a day on it
>game
I don't care what anyone at Blizzard says, Kerrigan was black. Frick, you'd think that they would have leaned in on that since they actually had a well written black character who's personality wasn't just "I'm black".
They probably thought Duran was enough. At the least Kerrigan being mulatto would've at least helped explained her original look.
Duran is pajeet sir
Didn't really matter in that era of vidya. A brown character, no matter the ethnicity, was just considered brown. So they just turned the redhead into a cute, white redhead in SC2.
>Ancient alien race disguise itself as the only token black man in the galaxy
SC2 was pretty silly
Honestly, I don't even think they would have needed to justify it. Black women getting nosejobs to look more white isn't a new concept. Especially back when SC was made.
I always thought he was a black Frenchman. Looking it up now, I see his name is Samir, so you may be right. I don't recall knowing his first name back in the Broodwar days. Did he have a first name back then, or did I just not know it?
>black Frenchman
Yes, a TERRIBLE FRENCHMAN WITH TENTACLES, if you will.
HONHONHON
That nose is not a Black nose... None of her features are Black.
You're moronic, go back to BBC posting like a good troony
>redhead
>black
do you work in hollywood?
She's got dyed red cornrows
It was an edgy White girl look back then. Same subculture group as Vulture Guy’s exaggerated beatnik goatee.
When I was a kid I thought they were directly referencing Angelina Jolie apparently playing an albino Black person in Gone in 60 Seconds
>that movie came out a year AFTER Starcraft
okay now I'm baffled
> I'm baffled
I literally just explained it in a post you quoted, moron. It was an edgy white subculture, nothing to do with Black folk.
>I was thinkin’ the same thing!
Doesn't take a telepath to know what /you're/ thinking.
Honestly all the Terrans looked pretty mystery meat which is on point given the Redneck aesthetic.
SCVs were basically that nerd spic/black archetype.
JOJ ahh face
So, Jamie Lee Curtis basically?
Somehow even Jamie Lee Curtis is hotter than that abomination.
Man, where's that True Lies copypasta pic when one needs it.
I always liked that rendition of her the most. It's a shame nobody draws her like that.
The body horror of her zerg bits actually growing through the ghost suit.
I was always confused by this as a kid, she looked totally different on the cover, in the menu, in the cinematic and in game, I had no clue what she was actually supposed to look like, but I always went with the cover
>MY WIFE FOR HIRE
What the frick did he mean by this
They are called zealots, and they give their life for their homeworld Aiur.
Why do you think the dark templar cut off their avatar braids and went into exile?
Because they didn't want to join into the Khala system of linked minds that Khas introduced after the Aeon of Strife.
Because they wanted to follow mommy Raszagal
*deletes your army*
You brought this up yesterday and I can't unsee it. There is no interpretation of that portrait that I can see as white.
I wasn't here yesterday, but have been saying this for years. Pretty much since SC2 came out.
My only theory is that they didn't want the main antagonist to be a black woman, which when trying to think like someone at Blizzard trying to appease the colored hair mafia, I can understand. So they whitewash her. Then they go and make her not a villain because there was a secreter bigger evil and she was actu... FRICK I hated the writing in SC2.
M8, they portrayed Kerrigan as clearly white in the first trailers for SC2 like in 2009 or some shit, long before the woke bs became mainstream.
Raynor is is a crazy guy when you think about it. He's leading a group of convicts and various other morons against two alien races, one of which outnumbers them an insane amount and the other has vastly superior technology. Then he has to worry about a civil war in his own faction AND a freaky ass cult. What a guy.
Ginger psusy can drive a man to do crazy thangs
every single human is a convict, thats the entire lore, starcraft is literally australia in space
You don’t actually think everyone is a convict in Australia, right? Many are descendants of convicts, same in StarCraft. Dial down that moronation a bit. I believe Space Marines/firebats were convicts though who were given the choice of joining or execution.
The only people in Aus who aren't convicts are chinks or poos
Most of Aus is derived from people who came from the gold rush or people who came to exploit the free land and cheap convict labor, actually.
>I believe
homie just read the lore, starcraft they took every single criminal on earth and send to a sector far away
Plus people forget just how many Terrans exist in the Koprulu sector. They absolutely have enough criminals to turn into a standing army of brainwashed cannon fodder.
>Protoss:
>Busy playing space pest control, glassing planets
>High tech but everything got scrubbed after the racism wars
>Slowly digging their tech out piece by piece
>Too busy with their work to even sex humans despite knowing about them on koprulu for quite some time (???????????????????????????)
>Every single unit is important to them because they're dying or some shit, fricking space elves
>Does not have civillian caste, everyone is on cleanup duty because of the zerg, the insurrections, the rebels, etc
>Zerg
>Busy gathering their wienerroaches sleeping all over the sector to launch an alpha strike on the Protoss after a gorillion years of overmind keikaku
>Army consists of a big brain puppeteering wild animals that shit and piss everywhere
>Every time they grow in numbers they get glassed
>Even their strongest critters can't pull through because the blue frickers keep teleporting away to their home planet that the overmind is trying to find for fricking ever
>Terrans
>Space convicts sent to space australia. Earth became an utopia after Australia got exiled to Koprulu
>Massive social problems, genetic problems, tech problems. Whatever tech scrap they have from Earth somehow lets them survive for a few hundred years without crossing paths with the space jannies
>Except one day they do, SCI starts
Not considering that Earth has the superior tech to curbstomp all three factions plus the space manatees, the Terrans are in a very favorable situation despite being between giant monster jaws and psychic ultra indians.
>Earth became an utopia after Australia got exiled
The most realistic expectation of the future that sci-fi has ever produced.
Keep in mind Protoss tech is mostly created for times in peace, and a lot of tech has to be repurposed for combat. Terran are all about fighting so their tech is mostly focused around murdering their enemies. Also Space is just big enough that it took them awhile to reach other parts where the Zerg and Protoss are having their issues.
That doesn't make any sense, I thought the Protoss had warrior castes dedicated to fighting?
This is probably just head canon, but I think it was a traditional thing, like nobility being trained to be martial knights when they weren’t ever actually going to go to battle.
I LOOOONG FOR COMBAT
>coming right ovah,
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>""""""sir"""""""
>"""sir""" is like 3 seconds later, in the middle of someone else's line
Every fricking time. That shit is the real ear worm.
>REPORTING FOR DUTY, SIR!
>PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR, SIR!
>SIR, YES, SIR!
>EXECUTING YOUR ORDERS, SIR!
>LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER, SIR!
>IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE THE IMPERIUM, SIR!
>WE DID IT, SIR!
>Chaos... What do we do, sir?
>SIR?! SIR?! WHAT DO WE DO?!
>WE WON'T LET YOU DOWN, SIR!
I'm COMMAN!
SC1 got the grimdark sci-fi just right, everything was so perfect
ITS MA´AM
home...
>russians operate the best weapon terran has
what did blizzard mean by this
It means the hunt for Red October and it's sister films was big at the time
>what did blizzard mean by this
He is a Macross (well, Robotech) referece.
?t=30
And while Macross has its own yamato, they couldn't be more direct with the naming of that gun.
Battlecruiser is simply the weeb unit. Just like the Goliath was done by a Battletech fan.
Gay boners in space!
the fact that the UEF wasn't a separate faction from the Terrans always annoyed me. It's so silly that state of the art technology from earth is exactly the same as the cobbled together shit developed by convicts who were literally dumped into space to die
did you miss the part where they specifically didn't bring their advanced tech so it doesn't get reverse engineered
still dumb that they have exactly the same equipment as what the Terrans developed on their own after they were exiled
>bunch of hairless monkeys have nukes
>protoss, zerg and xel naga dont have anything as powerful
bravo metzen
what are your thoughts on this schizo mod
https://www.moddb.com/mods/cosmonarchy-brood-war
I read you, """ma'am"""
When is next Korea time? I like watched asiaticclick with Ganker.
ASL just started again, i think we're in top 8 now or something? they don't do live english casts anymore so you have to watch the vods that get recorded and posted the day after.
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Where the frick is the Group D VOD? They played like a week ago and it's still not out, what the frick are they doing that they can't sit down for a 2 hour casting session?
group selection is monday so ro16 games will be the following week
there are live english casts streamed on afreeca, but yeah you can check the english vods on starcasttv youtube
asl and gsl are both going on right now
What sound do these little guys make again?
>select an unavailable location
>*sad beeping*
🙁
I sense a soul in search of answers
Numbnuts
>builds an Assimilator on your gas
What now, gay?
make a bunker in front of my expansion asap and put some scv's on razing duty
then get ready for goons to come and blast your bunker as you repair it for dear life
OvO, UvU and so on.
meow :3
CHUUMI
BLOB-TOSS
Dude I played so much of this shit as a kid. Just making random campaigns and trying the ones other people did. Playing all sorts of shit. Loved this game. Never played online though. I should go back and play 1 and Broodwar's campaigns
I'VE GOT YER ZERG RIGHT 'ERE
*touches wiener and balls*
Slammin'
in the butt, bye bye bye
how come a few marines can take down a battlecruiser which have a crew of 100+ people
same reason why a hydralisk can shoot one down
>the actual size of science vessels vs. a single marine randomly firing up at it
>Infested Kerrigan has an entire mission take place in one.
>75 minerals
>for an 80 hp unit that comes with 3 spidermines (if you upgrade for 100/100) that do 125 direct impact damage in an aoe
what the frick were they thinking?
>50 minerals, 200 gas
>infinite mana
>spell that annihilates everything in a large radius
>spell that makes everything immune to ranged damage in a large radius (except your own defilers)
>your own defilers
meant lurkers
>pops out of ground
>cooms plague onto your buildings and units
>laughs
>wiggles away to snack on zerglings
Best boi
gas is way more valuable than minerals and if you're moving to ultraling + defilers terran has probably already researched mines and started producing vultures. and now you're stuck sacrificing control groups of lings just to defuse some mines
Time/APM is the third resource, this is why everything you do at high level must be efficient. This is also the level why you very rarely if ever should really micro, because your APM is almost always better spent macroing, setting up or even just scouting well than doing marginally better in some skirmishes. Of course, there are excuses when its absolutely required, like reaver micro.
A zerg doing well is always going to be able to afford a+moving those goldfish poop control groups of lings across the map, both from minerals, spare larva and APM just to defuse minefields and be a nuisance as it takes more APM to defend effectively against them and it hinders terran positioning too. Not to mention that sometimes you can just sucker punch games when the ling groups just overrun a third or fourth because the terran was careless for a moment.
The speed at which lategame lings can just eat trough base structures is fricking nuts
what the frick was HIS problem?
dragons. Blizzard should have let us finish the job instead of making an entire expansion jerking them off
His slaves wouldn't come back.
>there must always be a lich king
>there isnt one now
ok
The Terran faction consisted of prisoners and outlaws for the most part. It should be expected that they'd be resistant to any sort of command chain and only really doing it to survive.
daylight was burning.
Zerg audio was so souless in SC2. What a disapointment. Actually, sound direction in SC2 was overall pretty bad
>Zerg audio was so souless in SC2. What a disapointment. Actually, sound direction in SC2 was overall pretty bad
Absolutely. A couple of zerglings attacking your wall-in sounded terrifying in BW, like you absolutely can't let them in or you're screwed.
But in SC2 it sounds like somebody's throwing rotten tomatoes at your door. Absolutely limp.
This. Look at fricking SC1, like the ultralisk. Its sound, its short, impatient, bullish roars tell you everything about its personality and its intended role. It is practically begging you to just sent it to the frontline to facetank an entire army, but it also sounds real, like the believable sounds of a space mammoth would make.
Meanwhile, in SC2 all it does is weird space burping and over-effected shitty SFX. It just sounds stupid and takes you out of the game,
Killing Floor has the same problem, especially the fleshpound. The voice lines in the first game are way more gritty and gnarly in a way, in the sequel there's almost too much production value and the final result feels very generic.
The word you're looking for is "sovl". A game's potential sovl is inversely proportional to its budget and expectations.
You do make me think: If I was ridiculously rich enough to just form my own dev teams out of thin air, would I seriously have to give them just barely enough funding, push as many hours as I can out of them, and just the right amount of creative freedom to get them to create bangers like the old days?
It feels like the good only comes from limits, like how older kids media actually had really good writing and mature stories/deep concepts because the writers couldn't just have the characters say "frick".
some budget/cheap moves like using generic assets is awful so you have to strike a balance between restriction and freedom + have a laser focused vision
its also why people love established rules and worldbuilding that makes sense within the context of the story and dislike it when authors go full moron betraying their own writing because of too much creative freedom without focus
maybe like 2 autists working in tandem
CARRIER HAS ARRIVED
CAO CHUN
Always looked like it's a detached head to me. Is it supposed to be?
He's wearing some kind of black open vest or jacket. The yellow dots are buttons and the white part in the middle is his undershirt.
Now that you mention it, I see it. Probably a leather jacket for a space biker.
If we're just doing RTS units that live rent free in our heads forever it's the WC2 knight
>FOR THE KING
>IN YOUR NAME
>DEFENDING YOUR HONOR
>WE MOVE
Reviewing it on YouTube he's actually kinda cheesy but as a kid he sounded like the most legit medieval badass
This is not a factory. This is Cletus' trailer, he's just drunk and chainsmoking while its hot as shit hand-welding each tank personally.
In OG Starcraft the Terrans are all crazy rednecks.
And Mexicans and Black folk and Germans. But no Asians or indians or towel heads.
SACRIFICEEEEE MEEEEEE
Is Artosis mentally ill?
>Play terran exclusively
>Build two bases
>lose to enemy with eight bases
>complain about enemy's skill
>repeat forever
>Is Artosis mentally ill?
He moved from New Hampshire to Korea to Canada. What do you think?
damn
can someone xplain to me what enjoyment they derive from watching him? from waht i've read he rages constantly or some shit. how is that fun to watch?
Some people enjoy watching other people rage.
so it's that simple
Wait until you discover Low Tier God
oh i'm aware of LTG. but he's a whole fricking schizo character in of himself. all i know about artosis is that he plays starcraft and nothing else. it's not like there's BWC gay fanfiction coming from artosis every second day lol
It's not just the rage, though that's certainly fun too. It's refreshing to see a 40 something year old "normal" guy with a family who can compete with the Korean bugpeople. Plus, I'm a Terran main, so I like watching high level Terran play. It's why I don't really watch Tasteless as much since he plays Toss
so does artosis fall under the "high skill level" category? i thought he was just some dude that was still playing starcraft
He's S rank on the Korean ladder, though he's more of an S- honestly. The actual S/S+ players slap his shit around.
Absolutely. He's former pro, but anyone who can move to Korea and hit S rank on their ladder (again, while being 40+ and has a wife and kids) certainly qualifies as high level. He's genuinely better than 95% of players
damn alright, that i had no idea about. i thought he was just a average skilled player which in turn means nothing in the grand scheme of things of starcraft brood war
There was a time where he was arguably the best starcraft player in North America. He then travelled to Korea with the intent of going pro.
He is no longer the best in North America (top 10, top 20 maybe?) and has no hope of making it in Korean tournaments but he's still a fairly high level player with decades of experience in the game.
artosis was never better than day9. he wasn't even a better terran than idra.
>who can compete with the Korean bugpeople
He can't compete with the Korean bugpeople.
He literally couldn't even get top finishes on the USA WCG.
Even IdrA was a forever B-Team shitter and he's miles ahead from Artosis.
>He can't compete with the Korean bugpeople
Not at the pro level, but he streamed nightly for years doing exactly that, so yes, he objectively can.
The last time I looked at Artosis a Korean-English announcer was backseating him and had to explain to him that Artosis' build order was over a year old and that nobody was playing that way anymore. It means he's been playing bad for over a year and the whole time cried like a baby about it.
Like, I don't know any better obviously. And crying like a b***h over every single thing and being toxic garbage in chat is enough to make me detest the guy. But to actually stream and not be up to date on the tech blaming every loss on everyone but himself? What the frick is wrong with the guy?
>The last time I looked at Artosis a Korean-English announcer was backseating him and had to explain to him that Artosis' build order was over a year old and that nobody was playing that way anymore. It means he's been playing bad for over a year and the whole time cried like a baby about it.
Broodwar is asiaticclick for a reason, mechanics trump strategy all the way up to pro level.
Artosis style has always been play a predictable style and try to win through superior mechanics on long drawn-out games, much like IdrA.
>mechanics trump strategy all the way up to pro level.
Lmao, shitters coping will never get boring.
What deathball? Brood War doesn't have them and SC2 is dead already.
cope
it's funny to contrast the artosis ASL commentary with the live cast
>artosis: OH MY GOD THAT IS SUCH A GENIUS WALL I'M GETTING NERD CHILLS TASTELESS
>starcast: lol he fricked up his wall, that doesn't block anything
Yeah it's like Bob Saget stand-up versus Full House.
>taking bantz this seriously
Literally and unironically autistic
there was a funny moment on his stream where he says something like "I'm 40 years old, have 4 kids, and I'm sitting here at 2 in the morning angry at a korean man for using the wrong strategy"
Its fake rage, a show put on for donations.
I can't say I enjoy watching "him" but I like watching people play starcraft and the people spamming his TTS send my sides into orbit.
>"him"
why say it like that lmao
>but I like watching people play starcraft
yeah understandable. can imagine you don't have much to choose from when it comes to starcarft/brood war personalities tbh
>the people spamming his TTS send my sides into orbit.
what do they tend to say and how does he tend to react?
artosis is a funny case because most streams that I've seen have fans donating money hoping the streamer will thank them for it. artosis's fans donate money to shit on him or to try to distract him with erotic sesame street fanfics.
i don't understand who watches this stream.
all the moronic meme shit from the chat makes it impossible to watch.
He's actually pretty knowledgeable on the game and has a decent sense of humor when he isn't raging.
The rages are what gets the views though.
>makes bank off of pregnant mario spam
yes
that's why we love him
He knew he was strapped to a highly explosive, grenade launching motorcycle and he'd probably be the first to die.
CUM AGAIN
What a fricking downgrade.
Ghost went from my favorite unit to most hated just from this look and voice actor.
Then I discovered specters and learned they were everything I loved about the old ghost.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
what the frick was his problem?
Kept stepping on a lego, was too lazy to pick ot up.
>Terran user playing with legos
Scarily accurate.
>click on scientific research institute
>stock sound library plays scream.wav
For what purpose?
Seriously can someone fricking explain that sound effect? I always thought they were burning people alive in there because that's where Fire bats come from
Buddy, you realize a lot of the units have had some type of augmentation to them, right? Just look at the Ghost. Ocular Implants? They are performing invasive surgery without anesthetic.
Dumb kid version of me didn't realize that
If it weren't for these damn neural implants you'd be a smokin' crater by now.
Actually I think he says 'neural inhibitors'
>without anesthetic.
headcanon. marines use stims all the time so obviously they're very liberal with their drug use in terran culture.
Why waste good drugs on trainees that could die?
ghosts are elite spec ops, not "trainees". marines are literal cannon fodder and they still drug them up. drugs are obviously not in short supply.
But why waste them?
it gives them psychic powers
What? Either way I'm not wasting drugs to install neural inhibitors on my marines.
why do you think using anesthetics for their intended purpose is a "waste"? why would utilizing any drug in any measure for any amount of benefit be a waste when those drugs are clearly in overabundance?how would traumatizing your military with excruciatingly painful and invasive surgeries with no anesthetic benefit you? it costs 100 minerals and 100 gas to research stimpacks, then they become infinitely usable at no cost. an infinite supply of performance enhancing drugs for your entire population costs less than the manufacture of a single siege tank.
Because it's a grimdark setting where life is pretty low on the expense list. Also because it makes you all sensitive and homosexual and I think it's funny.
the fact that you think someone explaining to your dumb ass exactly why you're wrong and moronic homosexual is "making them all sensitive and homosexual" says more about you than it does about them
Head canon b***h, see how it goes both ways? Suck my dick you dumb inbred homosexual.
Okay, Milo
I got some Egyptian cotton to sell you
Starcraft != Warhammer 40k
>Why waste good drugs on trainees
>ghosts are elite spec ops, not "trainees"
>Starcraft != Warhammer 40k
Either because they couldn't afford it or wouldn't pay the ludicrous price for the license.
Ghosts are a dime a dozen shitbags who end up psycho killing themselves more often than the enemy. With fricking unrestricted nuclear access, butthole.
I always assumed it was just crazy difficult body-breaking training, and some cadet is losing his shit about how exhausted he is.
it's a meme sfx.
Thoughts on Starcraft Alternate?
They managed the Zerg actually good.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIInmvZxw1eea2j-CeHwevWr-3AhF4r3X
Anyone ever read Liberties crusade? Loved that book as a kid, holy based.
i read the book about the journalist that basically follows the SC1 terran campaign, i thought it was pretty awesome as a kid
I think my favorite Starcraft book (in hindsight, a lot were bad) was the one about the Terran that god a Terran dommy mommy Protoss stuck in his head.
I don’t even like StarCraft that much but this thread is hilarious
>Ready to frick target!!
Frick blizzard for not helping and frick the streamer circle
What is the solution to the deathball problem?
what problem?
Bigger deathball.
>I read you... """"Xir"""""...
I DIDN'T BUY CARPET
Growww semen
It's "Rose Eatin'"
ROAST EATIN
COIN CLIPPIN'
>NEED LONGITUDE, SIR
I thought he said this because, you know, siege tank, artillery shells, you need coordinates for the right arc, etc
Fenix's portrait gave a pretty clear view of what Protoss looked like
But then Tassadar's and Aldaris' portraits fricked up my perception because Tassadar had that weird ass hole on his forehead and the shadow below Aldaris' eyes looked like a mouth
I always saw Aldaris as a cartoonish rendition of an old toothless man.
The most offensive thing about the "remaster" is how awfully generic they made all the protoss heroes
>heroes
Protoss in general, the original gray matter looking alien heads with mysterious glowing eyes is way better than remastered/SC2 protoss. Bring back the lumpy aliens, not MK mask wearing wannabes.
Is it worth checking out the remastered for a replay? Or is it just shit? Tired of trying to find a crt at a decent price to do a replay so I was thinking I might as well do the remaster.
Jesus I think that just convinced me. Awful.
The portraits are the only bad thing about the remaster, all the QoL stuff is great and the game is easier to read
I disagree with the last part
Is it easier to see what the sprites are meant to represent? Yes
Does it have a higher visual clarity when it comes to quickly recognizing units or actions in the heat of a complex combat situation? Absolutely not, and it's mostly because the ground textures look like a fricking magic eye painting
Any mods to restore portraits? playing it now and it’s really kind of annoying. Never heard of StarCraft mods so probably not.
Remaster is better in every way.
The remaster lets you toggle all the new v old stuff so just A/B it and see what you like
I personally think the remaster is way too over-detailed and too busy but some of the big starcraft players that I know personally who I say that to think I'm insane
and I like to play anything pre-2002 on a CRT (pic related, a ~2008 LaCie Electron Blue) but don't let that hold you up - It's not gonna magically make you enjoy the game more
>old portrait
>cast in shadow with bright orange eyes, foreshadowing the forthcoming conflict with the Conclave, the Khala, and Aldaris himself
>wrinkled complexion shows Aldaris as an older, presumably "wiser" Protoss
>new portrait
>bright general lighting and blue decorative lighting overpowering the frame takes away from the shadows and striking eyes of the original. Foreshadowing lost
>Completely smooth complexion makes him look young. Portrait would easily serve an actually young Protoss like Artanis equally well
I still see that mouth on Aldaris what is it actually supposed to be?
Wash Yer Back!
Don't remember where it's from but it goes something like this
Humans are good at war, we've been doing it for thousands of years
Yeah, there was a quote like this. Not as good as we can be at it.
He's one of those old riding free, "not following the governments orders", sorta biker that used to exist in the 80s.
its actually realistec because special forces guys are always anti authority like that and like to troll like that
authority is shit if we are to exists it should be in a anarchist cooperative
Shut up commie.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH (happy trumpets)
Thank god for cold fusion!
greatest cinematic Blizzard ever made
>tfw the wacky redneck shenanigans went away after 1
it was such a great way of making it less of a generic sci-fi thing
It lost all campiness and went full turbo serious moron.
It is good.
But I think Z did it first.
and yet sc1 was so much grittier and darker. you cant have shadow without light. then we got "kerrigan my love..."
watching cinematic for the first time made me sweat with fear you can really feel you were with them in the chaos
>when the 'helmet opens to a guy smoking a cigar' scene is so good they used it twice
>all media emphasize its SCYTHE HANDS WHOA COOL
>in-game it's a ranged unit that shoots spikes
huh, game balance reasons i guess?
In cutscenes they are shown hacking and stabbing, slashing and gashing. But, yeah, they spit spines because zerglings fit the melee niche.
More like
>Hey, we need a ground ranged unit. Which of these designs we shamelessly fricking stole can serve as the ranged unit? Eh, this'll do.
>hydras have scything talons + thoracic spinefists
what was abathur smoking, shit kit
Everything after Starcraft 1 was terribly written, and I'm including Brood War too.
>dude what if Kerrigan magically was able to manipulate and fool every single person in the entire conflict, and somehow beat all of them singlehandedly because YAS QUEEN BADASS WOMYN
because Chris Metzen is a shit writer, he had little involvement with SC vanilla, but he did write most stuff in BW. He ruined starcraft like he ruined diablo
They didn't expect Kerrigan to be a evil c**t rather than a mind controlled evil c**t. What's funny is the excuse for the UED having just Terran tech for gameplay reasons.
Well at least they planned to make the UED the contractually obligated Expansion pack overpowered faction (ala Yuri faction from Red Alert 2) before realizing building and balancing a new tech tree was too hard.
they do something similar in Legacy of the Void where they show them rebuilding Auir, and it's all warpgates and nexus's and stargates and it's like motherfricker this is AUIR - where we used to warp in FROM, what the frick are you doing
why did raynor look like william petersen on SC1 and old matt mercer on SC2? I never understood why they changed him so much
damn he does look like William Petersen you're right
good pull
Even in the remaster he looks like a completely different person. I don't know why they changed Raynor so much either. It's like Blizzard's idea of what Raynor "looks like" differs from seemingly everyone else's headcanon
I don't know why they're so insistent on making the Terran tech so Apple-Kosher looking. The original opening to starcraft had a group of pirates looking through some shitty tv screens like you'd see in a recording booth for an old horse race track.
The soldiers form the infamous cold fusion scene all had heavily modified and personalized armor that was obviously not uniform, the kind of getup that gave the impression that it's just barely being held together through modifications, a real scrap heap tech base.
That was the appeal of the Terrans, they had some high tech toys but it was all juryrigged to make it work. Just like how the original colonies were built by cannablizing the colony ships and trying to rebuild the tech base.
For all we knew, Earth Terrans could have been tech equals of the Protoss. Not that it would have mattered.
>make the power armor twice the size for no reason
why is blizzard like this, now the head size just looks silly, if he put the helmet on his head doesn't even reach half of it. Meanwhile SC1
looked more realistic
Also the cowards didn't put any of Jimmi's decals on.
What is wrong with his neck?
20 years later i realize sc is the only game worth playing
Yea, booting up starcraft never gets old. Right from the start even the title screen and menu nails the atmosphere.
this
after 20-something years of videogames i went back to starcraft and project diablo 2
i'm tired of everything else
it might be the "i wanna settle down now" of men
What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Ghost Program, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on the Protoss, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire Confederate armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of ghosts across the Confederacy and your psi energy is being traced right now so you better prepare for the nuke, maggot. The nuke that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Terran Confederate Covert Ops and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
fixed
Replace "kiddo" with Raynor and you've got an adjutant recording from Nova's conversation with him in Wings of Liberty after choosing to help Tosh.
Zerg briefing music came from a sound library or something.
(at the end)
(another sample)
>the first video title
I swear people on this planet are fricking moronic to not know what stock sound/music are.
Can't find the video but people accused LOTR for stealing sound bites from Warcraft 3, the sound of peasant dying to be exact.
there's a certain sound effect of wood breaking that I remember first hearing in Sim City 2000 during riot disasters that freakin haunts me
I hear it all the time in TV shows and it's all over the Dark Souls series when you roll through some crates or whatever
it's the last one in this video
The last one is also in a lot of RTS.
yeah once you clock it once you'll just hear it god damn everywhere from now on
it's the sound of the piece of wood bouncing at the end as it trails off
I hate it whenever his portrait spits, shit gives me the icky when I was a kid.
I didn't like how rude he was as a kid so my only supply of spider mines was what Raynor had on hand.
>how rude he was as a kid
Same, everyone back in primary school disliked him. And everyone thought the protoss was the coolest thing ever.
The Overmind did nothing wrong. Tassadar did everything wrong.
but the Overmind literally arranged for Tassadar to kill him so that Kerrigan could save the universe
NOT CANON but the overmind did make kerrigan his OC waifu and bad dance music so who knows?
Even having played SC2 and knowing that you are correct doesn't save this sentence from reading like shitty fanfiction. It's a goddamn shame what those hacks did to Starcraft's story
still my favorite opening cinematic to any game
>that skull on his shoulder armor
40K RIP OFF!!!
No guys. It's literally not a 40k rip off or homage or any others. It's its own thing and that's final.
I saw starcraft before 40k so it's not a rip off thanks to personal bias and THAT'S FINAL.
It's clearly an Alien vs Predator ripoff, has the exact same three factions
You mean starship troopers. It also has the exact same factions (Terran, skinnys, bugs)
>Zerg are the Aliens
>Protoss are the Predators
>Terrans are the Vs
and you are gay
Nuh-uh your wrong that that's final.
Both wrong as 40K came first. The original starship trooper book did not give a proper visual impression of the factions.
I love the Aliens vibes from watching his ammo counter go down while he fails to kill a single Zergling with an automatic railgun.
>tfw no air support
SC1 terran marine aesthetic was so much better than 2
if you didn't know that cinematic was a copy of the bridge scene from apocalypse now.
ACHKNOWLITZ
So which was THE 90s RTS? Starcraft, Red Alert or AOE2?
It's not Red Alert. I know that at least.
AOE2 had huge popularity and stood the test of time, Starcraft won the east though.
100 IQ, 90 IQ, 110 IQ
Empire Earth: 160 IQ
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
All hail Grigor II
>No one has ever brought up the fact he has no body, it's just a head on a metal pole thing
See
I always thought SC1 Zerg were way more terrifying looking than the ones in SC2. They went too hard on the insect like qualities in SC2 (especially with fricking roaches, what a disgrace of a design) and were less fleshy monsters.
Honestly as a child I used to have night terrors thanks to a few X-Files episodes and one of the DVD menus from one of the (I'm pretty sure) aliens movies witht he weird flesh pods.
So the gooey fleshy aesthetic of the first game was 100% more creepier than the boring bug hive shit of 2.
They messed up by putting more spines and spikes on everything. They're supposed to be apex predators, which, if you look at nature, (ex. sharks, wolves, big cats) they should be sleek killing machines. Spikes are for prey animals, animals that got fricked up all the times and eventually evolved a way to defend themselves. Spiked animals are not hunters. I guess you could argue the zerg evolved spikes as they were needed, but some moron artist at blizzard thought SPIKES = SCARY when it's the opposite.
anti-authoritarian
>oh sweet a starcraft thread
>and it's not casuals seething they have to press buttons
>443 posts
NOOOOOO
i love starcraft broodwar so much. it's the only game my younger brother was good enough to beat me. he was always the "here's the controller bro" button masher but something clicked for him in SC and he was able to eventually beat me and get better ranking in ladder. he would also watched all the tournaments and copy thier strats.
how did we go from ozzy osborn glasses to this
went from cool beatnik to walmart cart pusher from Kentucky
it's a guy with a beard, right? like an archmage?
It's clearly batman
I think it's a bald dwarf with a huge mustache, solely because I cant picture it as anything else
>What the frick was his problem?
He knows he is the most expendable unit after marines and firebats. They know they'll die when you send them in groups lesser than 9.
i miss fenix
i miss sc1 dragoons
they literally asspulled Fenix back into SC2
there's also a glib facsimile of SC1 dragoons
The SC2 "Fenix" shit was weird...and awful
Refresh me on him, how'd they handle it?
he's the defacto leader of the android protoss sub-faction
basically the conclave put downloads of the brains of protoss heroes into robots, so its a whole faction of robot protoss
so its a Fenix who eventually renames himself - he doesnt remember Jim or Kerrigan, but he does remember Artanis and Tassadar
From a writing standpoint, it's pretty inoffensive. It's nice to hear Fenix's voice again and Legacy of the Void's biggest achievement is essentially building up 4 extremely distinct subfactions of the Protross very quickly to give the player lots of unit variations to choose from
How's the story proceeding after last game? Will there be any new stories, or Sarah took her old boy with her and flew into the light?
Starcraft 2's story had a good "end point", which is probably a good thing since Blizzard is a shell of its former self and there's not even a rumor about a "Starcraft 3" on the horizon. We may never get a Starcraft 3. If we do, I would imagine it would be a new story with new characters since the Raynor/Kerrigan/Mengsk/Zeratul story concluded in one way or another in SC2.
ro.24 vod got uploaded, the fricking audio issues in this lmao.
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Need a new thread. We're at 500
Yeah, we need one.
How tf did a SC thread last so long bros. Is it our time again?!
we're still alive bros...
Hell yeah brother