not too late, he still can say it when Aerith comes back, trust
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
he had a chance on their stargazing mission, but he pussied out last moment
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aerith loves pussies
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cloud is a chad tho
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why can’t fate let them be happy together…
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Soon, anon...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 year wait is too long anon…
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Trust the plan, homie
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I keep forgetting how insanely short Aerith is. Cloud is only like 5'7".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He didnt listen to Barret although he gave him great advice...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>homie......nig.....homie.......homie dick......big big Black person dick
What did he mean by this?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cloud fricking knew something would happen to Aerith too.. or at least had a bad feeling.
Cait Smith told him he would lose what he cherishes most, red literally said something bad will happen to her and that he must protect her
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Cloud fricking knew something would happen to Aerith too.. or at least had a bad feeling.
When she guided him towards sector 7 right before the wall market section in Remake he felt it. And ever since then he's been feeling uneasy. Shes become too precious to him. >Cait Smith
top kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
CLOUD, WHY?? YOU SHOULD'VE TOLD HER, YOU MORON!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's all just to set up maximum angst
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I love loveless
She was unironically in a dream I had yesterday and I dont even play these games. Iirc she wasn't dressed in her usual outfit. Needless to say the dream gave me an idea for a 3D video game. Now if only I could 3D model
Did she tell you anything
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Finally confesses when it is too late
It hurts bros
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://youtu.be/gYpFr_H1Zqc?si=zDsVMiTEgmwsMqJn&t=2929
the JP dialogue definitely has different mouth patterns
Does anyone have a webm comparison of both versions
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Man i want to see this full scene in the third game so bad
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think it’s closer to Aishiteru
Both versions look like he’s saying “I love you”. Not to mention Cloud holds Aerith’s hand to his face kinda like a reference to the dream Remake resoultion where Aerith tells him not to fall in love with her right after
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aerith also tells him not to fall in love with her and he’s visibly distraught since he already has. He immediately finds the resolution within himself to go rescue her right afterwards also. People also don’t take into account that he’s physically holding Aerith in that scene and holds her hand against his cheek which means it’s the actual Aerith and not her in the Lifestream since he phases through her arm in the Resolution scene.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think we are on the right track anon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You can’t fall in love with me >Do I get a say in this? >Pic related
kino
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I just hope they don’t give us some ambiguous ending next game.Even if it’s Aerith and Cloud actually saying “I love you” to one another before being separated or them solidity ending up together even if they don’t say “I love you” to one another. They’re potentially ruining the impact of the story and their relationship if they don’t follow through to some degree
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the will, especially now that they said they want to make more FF7, they'll give us something ambigious so as not to lose the Tifricks, since the majority of the fanbase faps to/projects onto her.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
SE just makes too much money with this, anon. They will never end it, at most they will do content with both sides and that's it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
A true love story.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even if some parts of the fanbase are going to have a meltdown, i think it would be a great line for him to say in that specific scene.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Damn. I never realized that. He actually says. > Please...Aerith. I love you!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cloud looks like a kpop plastic chink ew
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>tfw it was too late
i was thinking "please, stay.. don't .. don't go", but now when people say it. i am only sure for the "please, stay.. don't .." and not the "..don't go" because i see an ".. i ..." and "you" So this looks like "please, stay.. don't ..i love(or need) you".
"i love(or need) you" is stronger than "don't go" to motivate Aerith to take action.
I think we are on the right track anon
Yes, that's the Kino moment i wanted to show, too. I remember that they started making Rebirth right after Remake came out. This looks like the resolution scene from Remake was planed to go in this moment.
So this can work like
From "don't fall in love with me" to " I love you"
From "he can't touch her hand she is not real" to "he can touch her hand, it is real"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
there is a lot of connections to the aerith route in the main story, almost like it's intentional..
Remake: >Whatever happens, you can't fall in love with me
Rebirth: >Whatever happens, we will be together >Whatever happens, don't blame yourself
Remake: >Your mom's really worried too. >Too? So you are worried about me? >Of course I am.
Rebirth >You will have to give me a harder one next time. >Oh, next time? >Yeah.. next time :).
Remake: >(Cloud to flowers) Learn to talk to her.
Rebirth: >(Cloud teasing, after she "talks" to a crop) Did they finally learn to talk back?
Rebirth GS date: >I'm trying so hard to find you.
Rebirth twilight forest: >Focus on the real you, the one I've been trying to find.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why would he not be able to touch her hand if her body is right there
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
people keep saying Aerith is dead and projecting herself from the Lifestream, he's pointing out that she was a Lifestream projection in the dream and he couldn't touch here, ergo she's there physically this time
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
She could be projecting herself into her body from the lifestream in that moment
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes, she could be using her body like she did with her comatose self, but it'd still not be an illusion like so many people say.
I still think is the world coverging and alive Aerith and dead Aerith acting as one but whatever.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don’t think it’s an illusion but I think everything we see at the end is dead and lifestream Aerith.
The unresolved one is coma Aerith which is the one we ultimately save. Ultimania says the confluence failed, so that’s still open.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
comatose Aerith was killed, she died after she gave the materia to Cloud.
I still don't believe the Aerith at the end is dead but we won't know for sure until the game comes out.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
She was (presumably) killed in 3 star stamp, we know nothing about what happened to her in other worlds
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sephiroth was literally walking towards her right as Cloud was being sent back to his own timeline, I think the implication couldn't be more blatant than that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah in chihuaha world and beagle obviously, but what happened in the others? we don't know
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
we barely know what happened to Zack and he was the focal point of most timelines
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Corgi, Pug, and Terrier "timelines" had Zack and Biggs in them. Correct?
The chihuahua "timeline" was "Aerith's Dream" or something like that where Cloud and Aerith go on a date in sector 5.
The Beagle "timeline" where the party is at in both remake and rebirth I presume. Kinda confused as to why Stamp the dog looks like that on both sides of "Destiny's Crossroads". But maybe that doesn't matter.
It might be a gigantic red herring.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It might be a gigantic red herring.
Could be. But 'it was all a dream' would be even worse of a cop out at this stage. They may as well not have introduced it if it leads to nowhere.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They may as well not have introduced it if it leads to nowhere
Well it could be Cloud's delusion. Cloud is so messed up that he had to create separate realities in his mind to cope with the absolute monstrosity that is his life.
I wouldn't blame him. That kid has been through too much.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It doesn't line up with the white materia though. It'd suggest that the essence of Holy is inside's Cloud's delusions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No because Cloud was in the Sleeping Forrest and Aerith could have directly communicated with him inside his dream. Or something like that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Timelines can change into others
The original beagle became terrier, and the newly created world became beagle.
Terrier itself got split into 3 sub worlds, and now we don't know what happened to the original terrier
We don't know which dogs belong to the aerith lives and aerith maybe dies worlds
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The original beagle became terrier, and the newly created world became beagle.
I think terrier is just a split off world from beagle in the same way pug is a split off from terrier. Beagle just continued on.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Japanase gamers also have deciphered it. In the japanese version he also says "I love you". In fact in the japansese dub its even more obvious that he says that he loves her since the word they use is very specific and easy to read.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The voiceline was recorded right? I'm guessing we will hear it in part3 when they revisit the scene
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
that final game is really going to make or break this whole remake
so much potential for great payoffs, and equally for a complete frick ups
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
oh boy, this sounds like a nuclear bomb ready to be used, I have faith they know what they're doing but I'm actually kinda nervous ngl
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nervous for what?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know, what they're planing I guess
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't be nervous. It will good regardless of what happens.
if it from the ebglish version, then no because those lines have been recorded acording to Cody
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
?si=zDsVMiTEgmwsMqJn&t=2929
the JP dialogue definitely has different mouth patterns
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I love the attention to detail.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He’s definitely saying Aishitematsu in the Japanese
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what does Aishitematsu mean?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I love you in Japanese
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think it’s closer to Aishiteru
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay, I can actually see that. I wonder if the VAs or motion capture actors will ever confirm it?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think the Ultimania+ where they go into the script would be our only chance at a confirmation.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
They’re doing a Vol. 2 for Rebirth supposedly but I don’t it will reveal anything that with spoil part 3. Of course they’ll do a retrospective one for the entire trilogy so maybe there they’ll reveal it just to not cover redundant ground.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
they'll never have Cloud say that to Aerith, they don't want more death threats
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://youtu.be/gYpFr_H1Zqc?si=zDsVMiTEgmwsMqJn&t=2929
the JP dialogue definitely has different mouth patterns
if it from the ebglish version, then no because those lines have been recorded acording to Cody
Remake and Rebirth use a special AI program that specifically animates the lips to what the voice actor in each language is speaking. Cody and his other language counterparts would have had to record a line to go along with this sequence, including the OG lines.
Alive timeline Aerith stayed at Forgotten Capital, Cloud still needs to see the full vision of aerith death from main timeline ergo when he goes on lifestream journey with OG Aerith, learns the truth of her death, fills up white materia with his memories of aerith -> she will join.
This was fact checked
lame, fricking lame they killed her, even if she survived. Now I have to slog through the story with no real feminine presence. Gay Nomura, this isn't about feeling 'loss' it's just moronic
Yes think it was croudo, vince and tifa in og for me, never had much time for yuffie and cid, sometimes i think they seemed to consider characters expendable since some were missable.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it was Cloud, Vincent and Cid or Barret for me, probably the same for next game
I never cared much for the rest, especially Yuffie
She wont send shit because the Aerith speaking to Cloud in the end is Jenova imitating her off of Cloud's memories. Also no one ever seems to acknowledge her awkward "good luck" at the end.
The "Cloud sees multiple timelines" thing was debunked in Ultimania by Nomura already.
That's not an alternate timeline Aerith in the grasslands of the ending.
I mean I remember how weird people were about Remake, so I'm not going to go deep in arguing.
It's either Lifestream Aerith or shizo Cloud/Jenova-induced "Aerith". Or some 3rd option we haven't thought of.
Everything is pointing towards it being a new timeline Cloud created
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm aware of the rainbows.
But multiple timeline vision Cloud was debunked in Ultimania is all. Whether a new timeline was created or not, that wasn't an alternate timeline Aerith in the end.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Except it clearly was. Sephiroth tried to merge the timelines where she lived and died together but was stopped by Cloud
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
k
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Aerith prevented it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
forgot pic
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
the fact that most of the things I thought were happening were confirmed just gives me more reason to believe the Aerith is alive in another timeline theory much more
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think it's as simple as Aerith being in the lifestream.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I disagree and will keep that opinion until the game comes out and proves me wrong, if that's the case
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Aerith is alive in another timeline
She is. You can see from the colours under her as she "dies" she shifts timelines
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And even if for some reason Aerith were dead in FC, she has a million coma bodies she can just wake up in. Theres no way she stays dead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
But I want OUR Aerith back. The one whos 200 feet under the water...
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Who do you think enabled the party in Rebirth to stand any chance at all against Sephiroth? OG lifestream Aerith. That's as close as we'll ever get to her coming back.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
plot armor.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not plot armor when their skills line up with what they've faced and the entire premise of the remakes is basically OG Aerith and Sephiroth duking it out from the OG lifestream.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
But what makes her OUR Aerith exactly...her body or her mind? I think its perfectly fine to allow our Aerith's mind to transfer into another body. I personally think her body is fine anyways since I'm of the believe that our Aerith was indeed saved and is alive. But an an insurance I have no issue with her stealing another body just like our Cloud did.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nooooooo Sephiroth you can't just unite the timelines...!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I fricking hope Aerith WANTS to live, not this martyr bullshit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Exactly. People are so moronic. Thats why she is still alive when he comes to her and enters the raibnow ring. Because Sephrioth failed to completely merge the timelines. She is still alive.
Here is a quote from an interview.
Aerith does not accept her fate like in the OG FF7.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is such an important revelation, and it was a big missing piece to the puzzle. We now know that any time someone says "no promises," its basically a big frick you to fate.
I forgot that Zack asks Elmyra to make sure Aerith doesn't leave the house before he gets back with the cure, and she says "no promises" with that girl.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cloud is a schizo but he can still be seeing the other timeline, there's a reason why they made sure to show us the sky and everyone's perspective of it.
schizo Cloud and him seeing the other timeline are not mutually exclusive concepts
I'm going to cackle like a hyena when all the tears flow on Ganker in 3 years from people who don't understand writing conventions and deliberate misdirection.
how are people still this delusional to think they're gonna alienate o big chunk of their audience? this is medication-worthy levels of delusion
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Regardless of which horse you're backing, how would pairing Cloud up with Aerith not ALSO alienate a big chunk of the audience?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I already daid they'll keep it ambigious like they've been doing it since the OG with a hint hint that Aerith is the canon one but sike! because we don't want the coomers and self inserters to burn down our building.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Which is fine. But by the sound of this thread Cloud and Aerith are DEFINITELY going to get married, which only people who's brain is as scrambled as Cloud's would expect.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>thread about Aerith favors Clerith
no fricking shit, Sherlock, you think the Tifa thread was better?
Aerith's date is basically the most important one from a narrative standpoint. Toriyama said it himself how her date is the only one they needed to faithfully recreate, even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you. With everyone else they could change it because it wouldnt impact the narrative anyway.
>Toriyama said it himself how her date is the only one they needed to faithfully recreate, even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you.
It is really interesting how much the devs value that date, the fact they talk about how iconic that line is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's critical because it's underlying meaning is not about romance but the literal question of "who the frick are you?" In the OG game the date's actual meaning doesn't come to light until the big reveal. It's just presented as if it's a love confession played 100% straight to obfuscate the twist.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Whatever makes you feel better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm going to cackle like a hyena when all the tears flow on Ganker in 3 years from people who don't understand writing conventions and deliberate misdirection.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This type of stuff is kinda embarassing after the new ultimania straight up said she confesses her feelings for him inside the gondola. Are you talking she confesses her feelings of friendship? kek
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're a strawmanning piece of shit. No, she and Cloud like each other, no question. But there's a difference between liking and LIKING. You know, like she LITERALLY SAYS IN THE GAME.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Autistic moron
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's just presented as if it's a love confession played 100% straight to obfuscate the twist.
That's why you morons just keep eating shit again and again. The writer is screaming at your face and you keep denying it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm 100% convinced you people either didn't play the original game or didn't understand it. Anyone who thinks FFVII screaming something in your face means it's true MUST be full of shit. Because the entire game is it screaming shit in your face only to then pull the rug out and reveal it isn't what it looked like. Do you think Cloud was actually in SOLDIER by any chance? The game "screams it in your face!"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>“After her big performance, an excited Aerith heads for the gondola. She admits that when she first met Cloud, she saw him as Zack. She tells Cloud directly her feelings for him, and under the fireworks she leans onto Cloud’s shoulder.”
The levels of copium you gays are having after rebirth are delicious.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
IT IS JUST FEELINGS OF FRIENDSHIP ANON THAT'S WHY SHE SMILES WHEN HE INTERWINES HIS FINGERS WITH HER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The ultimania is cooking their headcanon, even when they use an example of romantic date they pick aerith.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, the Ultimania is definitely spoiling the game that isn't out yet. You people are the reason there are so many rich Nigerian princes.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are on breaking point.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>not holding hands with your bros and leaning onto their shoulders while you tell them you want to be with them
grim
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh i didnt see that, they straight up admitted it was a confession huh. nice.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The fact this shit need to be said in ultimanias because the fandom is in such delusion is funny as frick
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Man she was so surprised when Cloud returned her feelings by holding her hand there.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I bet Aerith's lips have a shit ton of peach fuzz and she needs to shave often
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That whole segment was masterful. She desperately grabs on to his arm as it’s the only thing she wants but fears she can’t break through to him, pleads with him by saying, “just until the ride is over” so he doesn’t push her away, she caresses her face against his arm needing to feel his warmth against her, the initial shock and melancholy in her body language as he gently pulls her hand from his arm believed he’s pulling away from her, how he delicately lies her hand on his lap before tastefully suggestively thrusts his fingers between hers, the slow realization on her face as it goes from dejected to disbelief to overwhelming bliss and happiness, the look of pure vulnerability on his face, and lastly the reciprocation as both of their fingers tighten their entwinement together. Exquisite.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
hot
im horny
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I find heartbreaking how she probably didnt even have any intent to see him returning her feelings, she just needed that for herself. That's why when he returns her action and takes her hand she is so surprised. It's fricking amazing.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The cinematography of her date is on another level. Truly incredible.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That’s easily the best part. God their date was so amazingly executed
>Toriyama said it himself how her date is the only one they needed to faithfully recreate, even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you.
It is really interesting how much the devs value that date, the fact they talk about how iconic that line is
If you pay attention to it, only Aerith's version of events/resolution scenes are being considered in the main narrative, so they simply cant frick up any scene with her because it will be the standard route that will be showcased everywhere in their official content.
>even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you.
The “find the real you” line is even addressed in the main story. I guarantee it will come back again in part 3
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Her whole date is, even if you dont get her date, you still get the same plot points. It is a way of the devs not make you lose the essential info and feeelings depicted there.
As example. 3 main things that happen in her date
1- she tells that she wants to find him
2- she tells that she likes cloud now
3-the way they hold hands there
All these things are repeated in later chapters in the main story, so you will still see them. 1 in the sleeping forest, 2 through marlene saying that to zack, 3 after the last fight.
There is a reason why SE uses her date as the standard for 3 decades.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It is the date with the biggest payoff by far, the only one that comes close is Red13 because he says some really important stuff too.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You really cant avoid aerith in this game lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"So they skipped her date? Let's put the same events and important parts in the main story with Aerith so that players dont lose anything from it"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hamaguchi’s comments make so much sense in hindsight
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes. At first this statement was seens as only actions before the date, but after rebirth we can see that what happens after it is just as important. You may have ignored Aerith for 90% of the game, but what happens in her date will still be in the main story, you liking it or not.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This homie is such hardcore aerithgay. A true soldier.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He definitely shot loads to Briana, and maybe in.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the attractiveness of the VAs is informing the direction of the trilogy
There's absolutely no way Aerith loses.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I look forward to her finishing her play through of Rebirth in 4 years time
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
just in time for the third R game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shes been streaming the game at least 2-3 days a week. At this rate it will take her about 4 months
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"So they skipped her date? Let's put the same events and important parts in the main story with Aerith so that players dont lose anything from it"
That pre-release review still cracks me up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I honestly dont blame the guy because i saw some people go so hard in the choice aspect they tried to ignore aerith all the time with the idea they could manipulate the feelings these characters have to each other. Like, they projected their hate towards aerith in cloud, but then chapter 14 starts and they see headcanons being nuked.
Romantic climaxes in media often fall within the last half of the 3rd act of a traditional story telling structure. It keeps the emotional resonance of the scene impactful until the end of the narrative
Aerith will end up with Zack, Zackbros we need to believe
Zack already gave up, you should too, anon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Zack already gave up,
he didn't, he is with his heart broken but he still loves her
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Tifa is here for him
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
he doesn't need to stop loving her to understand she likes someone else now, you know?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He didn't look like his heart is broken, more like he was motivated to help Cloud.
It looks like Zack is like me. Me and him we love Aerith, but we love Cloud too. Aerith loves Cloud and he can make her happy. So Zack and me want Cloud to save her be together with her.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He didn't look like his heart is broken
He obviously did tho
during the snowboard minigame you need to make 777 point score then defeat the secret Snow Devil masked rider and it will be revealed it was her all along
Yeah, I don't understand that part. I thought that the idea was that the real black materia was intended to be the temple itself and they were setting that up but it seems like they abandoned that? Everything about the black materia here is confusing as shit.
>Cloud gives it to Sephiroth >Sephiroth takes it, does something to it then let's it fall to the ground >Cloud pick it up again, tries to give it back, Tifa tacles him and the whole chase sequence starts >Cloud gives it to Sephiroth AGAIN >somehow Cloud gets it back and seems to still be trying to give it back to Sephiroth AGAIN
what the frick were they trying to do?
I'm wondering if maybe there are multiple black materias the same way there are multiple white materias and Sephiroth pulled a switcheroo off camera? Not sure what the significance of that would be but it seems like there are some obtuse logistics to the black materia that Sephiroth is attempting to deal with through subterfuge and confusion.
I'm wondering if maybe there are multiple black materias the same way there are multiple white materias and Sephiroth pulled a switcheroo off camera? Not sure what the significance of that would be but it seems like there are some obtuse logistics to the black materia that Sephiroth is attempting to deal with through subterfuge and confusion.
You have to remember what Materia is to begin with.
Its supposedly collected memories. The theory is that Sephiroth fills the black materia with memories of some sort.
We also see that the black materia looks one way and then it looks different with red shit in it after Sephiroth has had it. The fact cloud wants to give it back seems to just be the SOLDIER Jenova cell mind control.
The white materia that Cloud picks up in his dream and trades for the clear materia in the forest. I'm guessing those are unique memories or something to that effect. I think its intentionally meant to be vague in this way. The nature of memories are already vague af.
Cloud will fill the white materia with Aerith memories and help her to return from the lifestream. You'll see.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think the materia will be unrelated to saving Aerith. She is already alive in infinite timelines and can travel between them at will. She herself is fine. I think the hollow materia is something special and unique thought that will be used to stop Sephiroth
>Gast ran away from Shinra for it >Zack was desperate to come back to Midgar >Cloud fell into depression and never went further than a pump and dump with the prostitute he lived with that would've said yes to everything he asked
all the evidence point towards a resounding yes
>has the most fapped to video game character ever as his wife >leaves her sitting alone to go sit in a church remembering a cetra
yeah, im thinking it's pretty good
There's most certainly going to be a blow up argument early on. After his Temple of the Ancients insanity and their collective stress they're going to think he's gone completely cuckoo for cocoa puffs. They might even abandon him for a while and he'll be left alone with Aerith trying to figure out what to do while the rest of the team chases Sephiroth. This has to get resolved relatively fast though. It would be EXTREMELY irritating if the entire game is Cloud talking to an Aerith that nobody else can see.
seeing how mildly their reaction to how unhinged he was acting was, especially him trying to kill Tifa and whacking that wall while muttering and laughing the whole time I don't know if it'll actually get resolved quickly
True. I'm afraid they're trying to have it both ways. They want Aerith "gone" from the game just like in the original so she won't be playable but they didn't want to eject her from the story so she's going to be hanging around in this parallel universe form but unable to talk to anyone except Cloud, Sephiroth, and possibly Zack. These last two games have been good so I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll figure it out but what they've set up has the potential to be VERY fricking annoying. I'd much rather them open the game with that stuff, get it resolved so she can be back in the party, and then take advantage of the game having gone 100% off the rails to do some wacky shit. The idea that the last game is going to be the entirety of Discs 2 and 3 except with Cloud talking to a ghost frankly terrifies me.
My favorite part of saving Aeris in the OG game was the scene where Cloud finally opened up to her about what happened to Zack once he got his memories back.
In the original game they didn't really have a shit ton to do with each other. Sephiroth only killed her because she was summoning Holy and he wanted to stop that from happening. In an early draft he was supposed to be her older brother, though, which would have given them more of a connection and made his "the world is mine" gimmick make more sense since in that case he'd actually would have been Cetra.
>won a house full of children that are not hers but she still takes care of them and the title of Cloud's friend even though her only competition is a corpse
congrats Tifa, I guess
I actually think they're going to send Aerith and Zack to a pocket dimension in the end in order to keep Advent Children relatively canon, essentially retconning what was effectively their heaven looking place into another universe where they're technically alive but cut off from the main world.
I dont even think their intent is to shit on tifa's date, but i'm truly curious about why he had such shift on his personality during her date. That doesnt happens a single time in the last 2 games. I wouldnt be surprised if he's copying something he saw elsewhere, he saw how he can do that when he's with Tifa.
I find cool how everyone is taking loveless seriously now, analysing every aspect of it to predict the story. But for some reason they keep ignoring the last dialogue of Rosa and Alphred. LMAO
That's how you know that most theory guys are just memes because they know what is important but prefer to not look at it. Then they act surprised when they miss everything.
>"So, this play is literaly explaining the whole story and even teasing future events, maybe this talk between the two main characters at the end where they assure each other to they'll reunite is relevant? nah"
That play is the reason why i dont even care much about the mechanics of timelines/worlds. The writing on the wall is that a reunion will happen at the end.
ä good girl, one who'd make sure you didn't get into trouble. An older, more mature girl who could keep you on the straight and narrow and tell you when you're being a silly goose"
And people here say that Tifa has no personality kek.
Right? she's a people pleaser, inscure, inmmature woman who'd rather turn into a damisel in distress and interrupt Cloud than let him hunt the people who droped the plateover people's heads
>Shinra just dropped a whole plate and would've killes the entirety of the slums if it wasn't for Wedge and Aerith >Cloud wants to rescue Aerith knowing that's just one of the many shitty things they're capable of >"CLOUD, WAIT! I'M SURE THE PSYCOPATHS AT SHINRA WILL LET HER GO UNSCATHED, REALLY
what a terrible character
>what a terrible character
Reminder that this was after Aerith went to 7th Heaven to save Marlene at Tifa’s request, which was the very reason she got captured in the first place as she selflessly sacrificed herself for Marlene’s sake
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honestly, I think this was the point were I truly started hating her
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Tifa plays to win, anon. She knew something was up with Aerith and Cloud the moment she met her at Don Corneo’s. The woman literally convinced the stoic Cloud to wear a dress within the last couple of hours she last saw him. She knew how dangerous Aerith was.
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Anonymous
that explains why Aerith just tease him a bit but Tifa went jealous mode as soon as Cloud wakes her up at the sewers
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funny. Aerith melted Cloud's exterior persona rapidly, while Tifa still didn't even know what she was dealing with. Cetra women are just that good.
ä good girl, one who'd make sure you didn't get into trouble. An older, more mature girl who could keep you on the straight and narrow and tell you when you're being a silly goose"
If a girl irl looked this beautiful and was staring at you what would you do Ganker? Would you even be able to get words out of your mouth? Would you even be able to give eye contact back? Why are beautiful girls so intimidating?
The people that got the plat how the frick did you even beat the simulator fights with Zack and Sephiroth? That shit is ridiculous. No seriously, what frick is this shit?!
Like I was getting my shit pushed with the Cait Sith challenge because he sucks dick and ended up spamming Stop on the last enemy and I thought the rest with Cloud would be easy and then wut the frick? This is insane. And to make it worse with the last patch they reduced the HP and MP from 50% to 30% like it wasn't hard enough already.
Well sephiroths is easy, he shits out damage, zacks is a little harder but you gotta master his level channeling gimmick. Also remember to use synergy attacks at the right time, they stunlock the bosses.
I personally played agressive for these fights. Focus landing hits and try to get the fights over quickly. Defensive strats just prolong the battle and you can't really do shit except eventually slip up and fail.
Prime mode, sonic boom, Genji gloves, ez
Sephiroth is very easy to kill shit with, Zack has a learning curve but is also really strong with high braver but Zack is better used for heals
I don't know anything about its gameplay but Rebirth has kinda began to win me over with how much it embraces the silliness of the original.
To think they actually included Red XIII walking on two legs, or the parade, or Vincent just unabashedly chilling in his coffin. These remakes may be a mess but some of the soul of the original is there.
Then again not gonna buy a PS5 for this
the only regret I have is Sephiroth throwing the destruct materia at Cloud and flying away and the Tankceratops not being included but other than that, we're good
>Sephiroth throwing the destruct materia at Cloud and flying away and the Tankceratops not being included
I’m glad they had the good sense to remove these. I greatly prefer the more tonally and visually consistent world this time around
I get why they did, don't get me wrong (though if they made the Hell House work, I can't see why they couldn't do the same for theTankceratops but whatever) I have so little to complain about that this is what I can think of
They gave quite a bit of fanfare to hellhouse in Remake, but even then, you can make it work since it’s technically just a robot that looks like a house. Tankceratops is just too out there since it’s literally a dinosaur with tank tracks for a lower half.
She was unironically in a dream I had yesterday and I dont even play these games. Iirc she wasn't dressed in her usual outfit. Needless to say the dream gave me an idea for a 3D video game. Now if only I could 3D model
Sephiroth gives cloud his blessing, which I think is the black materia. It is probably what allows him to create a timeline where aerith lived, but will also induce lots of mental schizophrenia in him
So Goddess blessing could be something to do with the white materia aerith gave him?
Sephiroth gives cloud his blessing, which I think is the black materia. It is probably what allows him to create a timeline where aerith lived, but will also induce lots of mental schizophrenia in him
So Goddess blessing could be something to do with the white materia aerith gave him?
From Crisis Core Complete Guide: >It would be his ‘pride as a SOLDIER’, the impetus for his shift of values, which was the ‘Gift of the Goddess’ to Genesis.
According to non-degrading Genesis, Goddess' Blessing/Gift is character development and ability to regain your best self. That seems to match the lines here, too.
Reminder that the english local for this game is trash.
Does anyone know the direct translation of the final conversation between cloud and aerith before bronco flies away, I heard it wasn't about a promise
Yeah, there are tons of really bad localization choices in Remake and Rebirth, and people wonder why we get confused.
I play Japanese audio with subs and when Cloud is attacking Tifa at the Gongaga reactor, all she screams is "Cloud!", but the subtitles say "Don't do this!"
Remake at the train graveyard. English decided to make Aerith sound like a possessive catty b***h by screaming "Mine!", when in reality she just points out to Tifa they already have a bodyguard handy.
Chapter 14 is kinda insane because i was watching reactions from a massive japanese tifa gay, the whole who hypes up every small scene with her, and his natural reaction to chapter 14 was "yo, aerith is also the main girl/ love interest huh"
For japanese people those actions like intertwining fingers or the way she hugs him at the church leave no doubt of her feelings.
They are a lot more reserved with their physical relationships. That's why Aerith also kinda asks permission before hugging cloud, it is a massive act of love.
Thread is 16 hours old with plenty of discussion. It's amazing how much better these threads are when the one guy obsessed with "jimbo" finds something else to do, or is banned.
Remember all the anons that said nomura didnt write the story for remake? despite including shite from crisis core.
New interview dropped, nomura was dictating the story the entire time and the writer nojima was just following what was told to him by nomura.
>The interviewer begins with asking how the story was written, and Nojima says that he wrote the plot based on requests from Nomura and Toriyama, and then made adjustments to it based on feedback.
Nomura has a lot of influence but even in the 7R project kitase is still above him, there were plenty of times where he talked about how he had to convince kitase for something to happen. Or how Kitase specifically asked for him to implement a new thing in the game.
Kitase as og director and coming up with a majority of VII has definitely the most sway over anyone. Especially now that he is official FF brand manager. If he really wants something within this project, it will likely make it in. This is why the "I want a happy ending for the characters" shouldn't be taken lightly.
To be fair even if he didnt say that, everything of the jannies seems to be there to have a happier conclusion because if this shit will end in the same way it is the worst remake ever because they told the same story but worse.
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Nomura said in the ultimania that kitqse had a desire that he wants to fulfill so please look forward to it
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Anonymous
I imagine kitase was probably asking for some cool fanservice thing. Maybe the fusion sword, who knows.
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Anonymous
I really hope they don't pussy out and actually do something with their timline shit or then I'll have to join the ranks of the haters alongside the purists and I'd rather just kill myself
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, i think og ff7 is a perfect story but i want changes at this point because if things end up in the same way they fricking butchered this story.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
True. Introducing the concept of changing fate in a game where there's really only a single thing fans would bother to change, there's kind of no going back. They have to commit now, but I suspect they will.
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They will, it is natural. And people who think the third game will just continue the same concept as the second one are forgetting how trilogies work. The first part is the big optomistic start, the second one is where everything goes wrong and it looks like all was meaningless, the third one is where we have the comeback and the concept of the start returns.
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>"What is the point of fighting fate if we cant change it"
Cloud said it himself, the writers are aware of it.
Nomura fans are a fascinating bunch. If anyone praises a game, they say "thank Nomura for that" but if anyone criticizes a game "don't blame Nomura for that, that was actually someone else's fault"
Nojima is the writer but at the end of the day he writes plot points based on what the director and producer tells them to do. You can complain about the execution or characterization, but you can hardly blame a writer of a videogame for major events of it because a lot of the time maybe the decision wasnt even from him.
That's why you should always see them as a team, trying to use specific names to blame is always stupid when we talk about videogame development. Nojima of course has probably a lot more input as a random writer because he is an og guy, but he still takes decisions as a group with kitase,nomura and toriyama.
This isn't really news. There's been more interviews in the past months that said things along the same lines. Nomura, Kitase and Toriyama come up with concepts that they want to see, then they have Nojima write the scenario while incorporating what they asked for. It's not much different from how the original was written too.
The truth is that all of them have input. In the same way that characters like Zack were created by nojima himself because he needed to tie Cloud's plotwist, no one knew who zack even was weeks before the script was finished.
Poor hamaguchi is the lead director and never gets any credit good or bad lol
I guess it's because he doesn't have a meme associated with his personality yet like Nomura cringe kino or Toriyama romance guy
Hamaguchi isnt talked as much because he is working with other guys who are in this industry for the last 30 years and made some of the most remarkable rpgs ever. But he got very famous after this 7R project. He is the future of CBU1.
Yeah basically. We'll get to the North Crater and Sephiroth will basically plot dump on Cloud >Aerith's dead btw you failed to stop me >Tifa has been lying/hiding the truth from you >No, you weren't the 1st Class Soldier that accompanied me to Nibelheim >You're just a failed clone of me, just another of Hojo's experiments like those other robed fellows >Now give my other self that Black Materia
Of course you did, Cloud.
based Cloud
she's dead
I'm glad they kept the in game models for this, they animated it well
Any lip reading anons? Theres’s no static so its not the OG lines
He definitely says "I love you"
I just assumed it was his lip quivering.
isn't he repeating his Aerith is deat monologue from OG?
>I love you Aerith
>tfw it was too late
not too late, he still can say it when Aerith comes back, trust
he had a chance on their stargazing mission, but he pussied out last moment
Aerith loves pussies
Cloud is a chad tho
Why can’t fate let them be happy together…
Soon, anon...
3 year wait is too long anon…
Trust the plan, homie
I keep forgetting how insanely short Aerith is. Cloud is only like 5'7".
He didnt listen to Barret although he gave him great advice...
>homie......nig.....homie.......homie dick......big big Black person dick
What did he mean by this?
Cloud fricking knew something would happen to Aerith too.. or at least had a bad feeling.
Cait Smith told him he would lose what he cherishes most, red literally said something bad will happen to her and that he must protect her
>Cloud fricking knew something would happen to Aerith too.. or at least had a bad feeling.
When she guided him towards sector 7 right before the wall market section in Remake he felt it. And ever since then he's been feeling uneasy. Shes become too precious to him.
>Cait Smith
top kek
CLOUD, WHY?? YOU SHOULD'VE TOLD HER, YOU MORON!
it's all just to set up maximum angst
I love loveless
Did she tell you anything
>Finally confesses when it is too late
It hurts bros
Does anyone have a webm comparison of both versions
Man i want to see this full scene in the third game so bad
Both versions look like he’s saying “I love you”. Not to mention Cloud holds Aerith’s hand to his face kinda like a reference to the dream Remake resoultion where Aerith tells him not to fall in love with her right after
Aerith also tells him not to fall in love with her and he’s visibly distraught since he already has. He immediately finds the resolution within himself to go rescue her right afterwards also. People also don’t take into account that he’s physically holding Aerith in that scene and holds her hand against his cheek which means it’s the actual Aerith and not her in the Lifestream since he phases through her arm in the Resolution scene.
I think we are on the right track anon
>You can’t fall in love with me
>Do I get a say in this?
>Pic related
kino
I just hope they don’t give us some ambiguous ending next game.Even if it’s Aerith and Cloud actually saying “I love you” to one another before being separated or them solidity ending up together even if they don’t say “I love you” to one another. They’re potentially ruining the impact of the story and their relationship if they don’t follow through to some degree
the will, especially now that they said they want to make more FF7, they'll give us something ambigious so as not to lose the Tifricks, since the majority of the fanbase faps to/projects onto her.
SE just makes too much money with this, anon. They will never end it, at most they will do content with both sides and that's it.
A true love story.
Even if some parts of the fanbase are going to have a meltdown, i think it would be a great line for him to say in that specific scene.
Damn. I never realized that. He actually says.
> Please...Aerith. I love you!
Cloud looks like a kpop plastic chink ew
i was thinking "please, stay.. don't .. don't go", but now when people say it. i am only sure for the "please, stay.. don't .." and not the "..don't go" because i see an ".. i ..." and "you" So this looks like "please, stay.. don't ..i love(or need) you".
"i love(or need) you" is stronger than "don't go" to motivate Aerith to take action.
Yes, that's the Kino moment i wanted to show, too. I remember that they started making Rebirth right after Remake came out. This looks like the resolution scene from Remake was planed to go in this moment.
So this can work like
From "don't fall in love with me" to " I love you"
From "he can't touch her hand she is not real" to "he can touch her hand, it is real"
there is a lot of connections to the aerith route in the main story, almost like it's intentional..
Remake:
>Whatever happens, you can't fall in love with me
Rebirth:
>Whatever happens, we will be together
>Whatever happens, don't blame yourself
Remake:
>Your mom's really worried too.
>Too? So you are worried about me?
>Of course I am.
Rebirth
>You will have to give me a harder one next time.
>Oh, next time?
>Yeah.. next time :).
Remake:
>(Cloud to flowers) Learn to talk to her.
Rebirth:
>(Cloud teasing, after she "talks" to a crop) Did they finally learn to talk back?
Rebirth GS date:
>I'm trying so hard to find you.
Rebirth twilight forest:
>Focus on the real you, the one I've been trying to find.
Why would he not be able to touch her hand if her body is right there
people keep saying Aerith is dead and projecting herself from the Lifestream, he's pointing out that she was a Lifestream projection in the dream and he couldn't touch here, ergo she's there physically this time
She could be projecting herself into her body from the lifestream in that moment
yes, she could be using her body like she did with her comatose self, but it'd still not be an illusion like so many people say.
I still think is the world coverging and alive Aerith and dead Aerith acting as one but whatever.
I don’t think it’s an illusion but I think everything we see at the end is dead and lifestream Aerith.
The unresolved one is coma Aerith which is the one we ultimately save. Ultimania says the confluence failed, so that’s still open.
comatose Aerith was killed, she died after she gave the materia to Cloud.
I still don't believe the Aerith at the end is dead but we won't know for sure until the game comes out.
She was (presumably) killed in 3 star stamp, we know nothing about what happened to her in other worlds
Sephiroth was literally walking towards her right as Cloud was being sent back to his own timeline, I think the implication couldn't be more blatant than that.
yeah in chihuaha world and beagle obviously, but what happened in the others? we don't know
we barely know what happened to Zack and he was the focal point of most timelines
The Corgi, Pug, and Terrier "timelines" had Zack and Biggs in them. Correct?
The chihuahua "timeline" was "Aerith's Dream" or something like that where Cloud and Aerith go on a date in sector 5.
The Beagle "timeline" where the party is at in both remake and rebirth I presume. Kinda confused as to why Stamp the dog looks like that on both sides of "Destiny's Crossroads". But maybe that doesn't matter.
It might be a gigantic red herring.
>It might be a gigantic red herring.
Could be. But 'it was all a dream' would be even worse of a cop out at this stage. They may as well not have introduced it if it leads to nowhere.
>They may as well not have introduced it if it leads to nowhere
Well it could be Cloud's delusion. Cloud is so messed up that he had to create separate realities in his mind to cope with the absolute monstrosity that is his life.
I wouldn't blame him. That kid has been through too much.
It doesn't line up with the white materia though. It'd suggest that the essence of Holy is inside's Cloud's delusions.
No because Cloud was in the Sleeping Forrest and Aerith could have directly communicated with him inside his dream. Or something like that.
Timelines can change into others
The original beagle became terrier, and the newly created world became beagle.
Terrier itself got split into 3 sub worlds, and now we don't know what happened to the original terrier
We don't know which dogs belong to the aerith lives and aerith maybe dies worlds
>The original beagle became terrier, and the newly created world became beagle.
I think terrier is just a split off world from beagle in the same way pug is a split off from terrier. Beagle just continued on.
Japanase gamers also have deciphered it. In the japanese version he also says "I love you". In fact in the japansese dub its even more obvious that he says that he loves her since the word they use is very specific and easy to read.
The voiceline was recorded right? I'm guessing we will hear it in part3 when they revisit the scene
that final game is really going to make or break this whole remake
so much potential for great payoffs, and equally for a complete frick ups
oh boy, this sounds like a nuclear bomb ready to be used, I have faith they know what they're doing but I'm actually kinda nervous ngl
Nervous for what?
I don't know, what they're planing I guess
Don't be nervous. It will good regardless of what happens.
I guess you're right
Wouldn't it be in Japanese?
if it from the ebglish version, then no because those lines have been recorded acording to Cody
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the JP dialogue definitely has different mouth patterns
I love the attention to detail.
He’s definitely saying Aishitematsu in the Japanese
what does Aishitematsu mean?
I love you in Japanese
I think it’s closer to Aishiteru
Okay, I can actually see that. I wonder if the VAs or motion capture actors will ever confirm it?
I think the Ultimania+ where they go into the script would be our only chance at a confirmation.
They’re doing a Vol. 2 for Rebirth supposedly but I don’t it will reveal anything that with spoil part 3. Of course they’ll do a retrospective one for the entire trilogy so maybe there they’ll reveal it just to not cover redundant ground.
they'll never have Cloud say that to Aerith, they don't want more death threats
Remake and Rebirth use a special AI program that specifically animates the lips to what the voice actor in each language is speaking. Cody and his other language counterparts would have had to record a line to go along with this sequence, including the OG lines.
>Please…
>Don’t…
>I love you…
I don’t know about the rest but he really looks like he is saying “I love you” in the last line.
He does. he says.
>Please…
>Don’t…
>I love you…
Just sleeping
in the OG, yes
not in the R games though
thanks guys
>t.
We did it guys, Aerith is alive!
She saved me.
Round and round it goes.
>"just let me believe"
When will she join my party bros
hopefully soon
My uncle told me if you do a specific world puzzle you can get Aerith back into your party
Alive timeline Aerith stayed at Forgotten Capital, Cloud still needs to see the full vision of aerith death from main timeline ergo when he goes on lifestream journey with OG Aerith, learns the truth of her death, fills up white materia with his memories of aerith -> she will join.
This was fact checked
lame, fricking lame they killed her, even if she survived. Now I have to slog through the story with no real feminine presence. Gay Nomura, this isn't about feeling 'loss' it's just moronic
but you will feel loss
I already felt that in OG, why did I get spammed about defying fate if it still means aerith isn't in my party?
She was in your party for 2 games and was boring to play as in both
This
Who the frick is going to heal my party now, tifa is a punchy not a healy.
Vincent was my MVP in the OG when I lost her, maybe we can go that route?
Yes think it was croudo, vince and tifa in og for me, never had much time for yuffie and cid, sometimes i think they seemed to consider characters expendable since some were missable.
it was Cloud, Vincent and Cid or Barret for me, probably the same for next game
I never cared much for the rest, especially Yuffie
Hey we all played the sasauge fest called FF15. A journey with your bros can be comfy as frick.
She will send up smoke because something will happen at capital and you will pick her up
>because something will happen
The worlds will merge at the reunion.
only Cloud will see it, then he will hijack the highwind
>guys! we need to go back, Aerith is sending up smoke!
>...
She wont send shit because the Aerith speaking to Cloud in the end is Jenova imitating her off of Cloud's memories. Also no one ever seems to acknowledge her awkward "good luck" at the end.
The "Cloud sees multiple timelines" thing was debunked in Ultimania by Nomura already.
That's not an alternate timeline Aerith in the grasslands of the ending.
the game rebunked it. Nomura is just giving one of the theories he wants you to trust before the twist happens
I mean I remember how weird people were about Remake, so I'm not going to go deep in arguing.
It's either Lifestream Aerith or shizo Cloud/Jenova-induced "Aerith". Or some 3rd option we haven't thought of.
Everything is pointing towards it being a new timeline Cloud created
I'm aware of the rainbows.
But multiple timeline vision Cloud was debunked in Ultimania is all. Whether a new timeline was created or not, that wasn't an alternate timeline Aerith in the end.
Except it clearly was. Sephiroth tried to merge the timelines where she lived and died together but was stopped by Cloud
k
Aerith prevented it
forgot pic
the fact that most of the things I thought were happening were confirmed just gives me more reason to believe the Aerith is alive in another timeline theory much more
I think it's as simple as Aerith being in the lifestream.
I disagree and will keep that opinion until the game comes out and proves me wrong, if that's the case
>Aerith is alive in another timeline
She is. You can see from the colours under her as she "dies" she shifts timelines
And even if for some reason Aerith were dead in FC, she has a million coma bodies she can just wake up in. Theres no way she stays dead.
But I want OUR Aerith back. The one whos 200 feet under the water...
Who do you think enabled the party in Rebirth to stand any chance at all against Sephiroth? OG lifestream Aerith. That's as close as we'll ever get to her coming back.
plot armor.
It's not plot armor when their skills line up with what they've faced and the entire premise of the remakes is basically OG Aerith and Sephiroth duking it out from the OG lifestream.
But what makes her OUR Aerith exactly...her body or her mind? I think its perfectly fine to allow our Aerith's mind to transfer into another body. I personally think her body is fine anyways since I'm of the believe that our Aerith was indeed saved and is alive. But an an insurance I have no issue with her stealing another body just like our Cloud did.
Nooooooo Sephiroth you can't just unite the timelines...!
I fricking hope Aerith WANTS to live, not this martyr bullshit
Exactly. People are so moronic. Thats why she is still alive when he comes to her and enters the raibnow ring. Because Sephrioth failed to completely merge the timelines. She is still alive.
Here is a quote from an interview.
Aerith does not accept her fate like in the OG FF7.
This is such an important revelation, and it was a big missing piece to the puzzle. We now know that any time someone says "no promises," its basically a big frick you to fate.
I forgot that Zack asks Elmyra to make sure Aerith doesn't leave the house before he gets back with the cure, and she says "no promises" with that girl.
Cloud is a schizo but he can still be seeing the other timeline, there's a reason why they made sure to show us the sky and everyone's perspective of it.
schizo Cloud and him seeing the other timeline are not mutually exclusive concepts
stop reminding me she won't be in my party
The amount of handholding this game has is crazy
we needed a kiss, why the frick didn't we get a kiss?
Because you people can't understand subtext and think Cloud+Aerith is going to happen.
how are people still this delusional to think they're gonna alienate o big chunk of their audience? this is medication-worthy levels of delusion
Regardless of which horse you're backing, how would pairing Cloud up with Aerith not ALSO alienate a big chunk of the audience?
I already daid they'll keep it ambigious like they've been doing it since the OG with a hint hint that Aerith is the canon one but sike! because we don't want the coomers and self inserters to burn down our building.
Which is fine. But by the sound of this thread Cloud and Aerith are DEFINITELY going to get married, which only people who's brain is as scrambled as Cloud's would expect.
>thread about Aerith favors Clerith
no fricking shit, Sherlock, you think the Tifa thread was better?
Aerith's date is basically the most important one from a narrative standpoint. Toriyama said it himself how her date is the only one they needed to faithfully recreate, even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you. With everyone else they could change it because it wouldnt impact the narrative anyway.
>Toriyama said it himself how her date is the only one they needed to faithfully recreate, even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you.
It is really interesting how much the devs value that date, the fact they talk about how iconic that line is
It's critical because it's underlying meaning is not about romance but the literal question of "who the frick are you?" In the OG game the date's actual meaning doesn't come to light until the big reveal. It's just presented as if it's a love confession played 100% straight to obfuscate the twist.
Whatever makes you feel better.
I'm going to cackle like a hyena when all the tears flow on Ganker in 3 years from people who don't understand writing conventions and deliberate misdirection.
This type of stuff is kinda embarassing after the new ultimania straight up said she confesses her feelings for him inside the gondola. Are you talking she confesses her feelings of friendship? kek
You're a strawmanning piece of shit. No, she and Cloud like each other, no question. But there's a difference between liking and LIKING. You know, like she LITERALLY SAYS IN THE GAME.
Autistic moron
>It's just presented as if it's a love confession played 100% straight to obfuscate the twist.
That's why you morons just keep eating shit again and again. The writer is screaming at your face and you keep denying it.
I'm 100% convinced you people either didn't play the original game or didn't understand it. Anyone who thinks FFVII screaming something in your face means it's true MUST be full of shit. Because the entire game is it screaming shit in your face only to then pull the rug out and reveal it isn't what it looked like. Do you think Cloud was actually in SOLDIER by any chance? The game "screams it in your face!"
>“After her big performance, an excited Aerith heads for the gondola. She admits that when she first met Cloud, she saw him as Zack. She tells Cloud directly her feelings for him, and under the fireworks she leans onto Cloud’s shoulder.”
The levels of copium you gays are having after rebirth are delicious.
IT IS JUST FEELINGS OF FRIENDSHIP ANON THAT'S WHY SHE SMILES WHEN HE INTERWINES HIS FINGERS WITH HER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The ultimania is cooking their headcanon, even when they use an example of romantic date they pick aerith.
Yes, the Ultimania is definitely spoiling the game that isn't out yet. You people are the reason there are so many rich Nigerian princes.
You are on breaking point.
>not holding hands with your bros and leaning onto their shoulders while you tell them you want to be with them
grim
Oh i didnt see that, they straight up admitted it was a confession huh. nice.
The fact this shit need to be said in ultimanias because the fandom is in such delusion is funny as frick
Man she was so surprised when Cloud returned her feelings by holding her hand there.
I bet Aerith's lips have a shit ton of peach fuzz and she needs to shave often
That whole segment was masterful. She desperately grabs on to his arm as it’s the only thing she wants but fears she can’t break through to him, pleads with him by saying, “just until the ride is over” so he doesn’t push her away, she caresses her face against his arm needing to feel his warmth against her, the initial shock and melancholy in her body language as he gently pulls her hand from his arm believed he’s pulling away from her, how he delicately lies her hand on his lap before tastefully suggestively thrusts his fingers between hers, the slow realization on her face as it goes from dejected to disbelief to overwhelming bliss and happiness, the look of pure vulnerability on his face, and lastly the reciprocation as both of their fingers tighten their entwinement together. Exquisite.
hot
im horny
I find heartbreaking how she probably didnt even have any intent to see him returning her feelings, she just needed that for herself. That's why when he returns her action and takes her hand she is so surprised. It's fricking amazing.
The cinematography of her date is on another level. Truly incredible.
That’s easily the best part. God their date was so amazingly executed
who cares about a foid's emotions?
If you pay attention to it, only Aerith's version of events/resolution scenes are being considered in the main narrative, so they simply cant frick up any scene with her because it will be the standard route that will be showcased everywhere in their official content.
>even her "iconic line" of i want to be with you.
The “find the real you” line is even addressed in the main story. I guarantee it will come back again in part 3
Her whole date is, even if you dont get her date, you still get the same plot points. It is a way of the devs not make you lose the essential info and feeelings depicted there.
As example. 3 main things that happen in her date
1- she tells that she wants to find him
2- she tells that she likes cloud now
3-the way they hold hands there
All these things are repeated in later chapters in the main story, so you will still see them. 1 in the sleeping forest, 2 through marlene saying that to zack, 3 after the last fight.
There is a reason why SE uses her date as the standard for 3 decades.
It is the date with the biggest payoff by far, the only one that comes close is Red13 because he says some really important stuff too.
You really cant avoid aerith in this game lmao
>"So they skipped her date? Let's put the same events and important parts in the main story with Aerith so that players dont lose anything from it"
Hamaguchi’s comments make so much sense in hindsight
Yes. At first this statement was seens as only actions before the date, but after rebirth we can see that what happens after it is just as important. You may have ignored Aerith for 90% of the game, but what happens in her date will still be in the main story, you liking it or not.
This homie is such hardcore aerithgay. A true soldier.
He definitely shot loads to Briana, and maybe in.
>the attractiveness of the VAs is informing the direction of the trilogy
There's absolutely no way Aerith loses.
I look forward to her finishing her play through of Rebirth in 4 years time
just in time for the third R game
Shes been streaming the game at least 2-3 days a week. At this rate it will take her about 4 months
That pre-release review still cracks me up.
I honestly dont blame the guy because i saw some people go so hard in the choice aspect they tried to ignore aerith all the time with the idea they could manipulate the feelings these characters have to each other. Like, they projected their hate towards aerith in cloud, but then chapter 14 starts and they see headcanons being nuked.
I feel like they're saving it for part 3 assuming they ensure a way they can be together for good
Romantic climaxes in media often fall within the last half of the 3rd act of a traditional story telling structure. It keeps the emotional resonance of the scene impactful until the end of the narrative
Passionate handholding with the Cetra
Because they will never end up together
no one will end up with anyone
Zack already gave up, you should too, anon
>Zack already gave up,
he didn't, he is with his heart broken but he still loves her
Tifa is here for him
he doesn't need to stop loving her to understand she likes someone else now, you know?
He didn't look like his heart is broken, more like he was motivated to help Cloud.
It looks like Zack is like me. Me and him we love Aerith, but we love Cloud too. Aerith loves Cloud and he can make her happy. So Zack and me want Cloud to save her be together with her.
>He didn't look like his heart is broken
He obviously did tho
>dumb woman makes an obstacle of herself between people fighting
>gets hit
lmao like pottery
yes Sephiroth, whatever you say
>those bajillion linkin park final fantasy music videos
She's back in your party for a battle like 5 minutes after this scene
Try a half hour. Minimum
during the snowboard minigame you need to make 777 point score then defeat the secret Snow Devil masked rider and it will be revealed it was her all along
totally
She's still alive.
yes, Cloud, well done
Trust the two worlds script
as up so bellow
Nomura is a hack, frick this moron homosexual.
Keep buying this milk you moronic homosexual cows
see you next thread
Why would cows be the ones buying the milk
Keep us updated, Cloud
For me it's Cloud, Tifa, Cid/Yuffie
I like Yuffie more than Barret and Vincent belongs in the cuckshed like the b***h he is
You sure did Cloud. I'm proud of you
Cloud cries himself to sleep
he cries of happiness because he has his Cetra wife by his side, yes
It's ok Cloud I believe you
me and Cloud, we're being called schizos but soon, you'll see the truth, you'll see how wrong you are.
Cloud cried a lot because Sephiroth told him too but never told him that eventually people stop
Sephiroth told him not to cry
Sephiroth called him autistic for not crying
he said he is a puppet
?
The ribbon makes her look like she has funny ears
Man...just imagine looking at this picture and being the dude who lost her to some silver haired homosexual. No wonder he loses his damn mind...
the frick am i looking at
Poor Aerisu
why was she so scared that Sephiroth having it if it was "fake"?
Yeah, I don't understand that part. I thought that the idea was that the real black materia was intended to be the temple itself and they were setting that up but it seems like they abandoned that? Everything about the black materia here is confusing as shit.
>Cloud gives it to Sephiroth
>Sephiroth takes it, does something to it then let's it fall to the ground
>Cloud pick it up again, tries to give it back, Tifa tacles him and the whole chase sequence starts
>Cloud gives it to Sephiroth AGAIN
>somehow Cloud gets it back and seems to still be trying to give it back to Sephiroth AGAIN
what the frick were they trying to do?
I'm wondering if maybe there are multiple black materias the same way there are multiple white materias and Sephiroth pulled a switcheroo off camera? Not sure what the significance of that would be but it seems like there are some obtuse logistics to the black materia that Sephiroth is attempting to deal with through subterfuge and confusion.
Sephiroth was just playing fetch with his puppy.
You have to remember what Materia is to begin with.
Its supposedly collected memories. The theory is that Sephiroth fills the black materia with memories of some sort.
We also see that the black materia looks one way and then it looks different with red shit in it after Sephiroth has had it. The fact cloud wants to give it back seems to just be the SOLDIER Jenova cell mind control.
The white materia that Cloud picks up in his dream and trades for the clear materia in the forest. I'm guessing those are unique memories or something to that effect. I think its intentionally meant to be vague in this way. The nature of memories are already vague af.
Cloud will fill the white materia with Aerith memories and help her to return from the lifestream. You'll see.
I think the materia will be unrelated to saving Aerith. She is already alive in infinite timelines and can travel between them at will. She herself is fine. I think the hollow materia is something special and unique thought that will be used to stop Sephiroth
I like how they added the moment Sephiroth decided to kill Aerith in this game
What exactly was her plan here?
she's abit of a dumbass
>Me playing Halo 3 Forge with the boys when we all agree to not turn into a monitor
Rules were meant to be broken, Cloud.
Pimps up, hoes down.
Barrett saves her every night.
wtf rare ship
I ship Barret with all the gals
Even Marlene?
K I saved Aerisu, now I just have to kill that zack guy
no need, Cloud, he already gave you his blessing
Is Cetra pussy better than human pussy?
>Gast ran away from Shinra for it
>Zack was desperate to come back to Midgar
>Cloud fell into depression and never went further than a pump and dump with the prostitute he lived with that would've said yes to everything he asked
all the evidence point towards a resounding yes
>has the most fapped to video game character ever as his wife
>leaves her sitting alone to go sit in a church remembering a cetra
yeah, im thinking it's pretty good
Considering there are none left I'm going to go with drier than the corel desert
>I saved her
She danced with me.
They are so happy together
It's sad
I am legit curious to see how long Cloud can keep the charade up with everyone around him obviously grieving.
There's most certainly going to be a blow up argument early on. After his Temple of the Ancients insanity and their collective stress they're going to think he's gone completely cuckoo for cocoa puffs. They might even abandon him for a while and he'll be left alone with Aerith trying to figure out what to do while the rest of the team chases Sephiroth. This has to get resolved relatively fast though. It would be EXTREMELY irritating if the entire game is Cloud talking to an Aerith that nobody else can see.
seeing how mildly their reaction to how unhinged he was acting was, especially him trying to kill Tifa and whacking that wall while muttering and laughing the whole time I don't know if it'll actually get resolved quickly
True. I'm afraid they're trying to have it both ways. They want Aerith "gone" from the game just like in the original so she won't be playable but they didn't want to eject her from the story so she's going to be hanging around in this parallel universe form but unable to talk to anyone except Cloud, Sephiroth, and possibly Zack. These last two games have been good so I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll figure it out but what they've set up has the potential to be VERY fricking annoying. I'd much rather them open the game with that stuff, get it resolved so she can be back in the party, and then take advantage of the game having gone 100% off the rails to do some wacky shit. The idea that the last game is going to be the entirety of Discs 2 and 3 except with Cloud talking to a ghost frankly terrifies me.
yeah, I still believe but I really think they'll keet it up at least until Cloud falls into the Lifestream, let's hope it doesn't take that long
Aerith morons are the worst group in Ganker
hey, thats me!
YuffieGOD
>Tifa morons are the worst group in Ganker
ftfy
>Tifaschizo's thread is dying so he must resort to this thread
Lmao
>video about random part of the game
>"no, Cloud is for Tifa >:("
why are the like this?
I saved her.
she is dead
she lives eternally in my soul
no, Tifa, she's not
>is not big surprise
My favorite part of saving Aeris in the OG game was the scene where Cloud finally opened up to her about what happened to Zack once he got his memories back.
CUTE CETRA BABIES
NO! CLOUD IS JUST FORSEPH
It's okay. I'd frick all 3
cloud can be his cute puppy
Uncle Sephiroth
How are they the characters with the most connections and they don’t even interact in person?
In the original game they didn't really have a shit ton to do with each other. Sephiroth only killed her because she was summoning Holy and he wanted to stop that from happening. In an early draft he was supposed to be her older brother, though, which would have given them more of a connection and made his "the world is mine" gimmick make more sense since in that case he'd actually would have been Cetra.
don't forget they considered making them lovers too
yes, look at her hair color and eyes, obvious japanese traits, and her name, very traditionally japanese too
>don't forget they considered making them lovers too
I guess this is what spawned the creation of Zack.
Do you think Sephirot ever met Iflana?
Aerith is Asian by the way.
She looks Greek or Italian, honestly.
Mediterranean for sure. Not sure where though.
vaguely ethnic
Have we ever seen Cloud smile or emote as much as he did in Chapter 14 of Rebirth?
Definitely no.
I like how he got mad because the israeliteeler picked out a gift she liked over the one he picked
He is literally all smiles throughout the entirety of the dream date, its really something
Aerith always manages to make him smile, even after just hours of knowing each other
It’s actually true
Because he desires the Cetra
not that much, no.
Cloud's smile is so cute
I love Aerith so much...
We know, Cloud
Imagine my surprise when I played Rebirth and Aerith had a better bikini body than Tifa.
now we know that's not true, maybe if aeirth had d cups
Never played these games but the chick with the red bandana is better than the other two prostitutes.
>inplying
Why didnt Square reuse midnight rendezvous for their date I'm so mad
>were supposed to get Vinny's GS date tonight
>he's just busy playing every card game again
His Remake playthrough was so much better than this shit.
Well, that's the magic of rebirth, if he's doing that shit is because he wants to or likes it.
>he got Tifa despite getting aerith on the first date
literal manic literal pixe literal dream
girl
>Ching chong a bing bong charlie chong bomb gi saigon.
Back to Ganker.
>the girl I knew for three weeks is the love of my life
yeah, Zack, we know
it's a shame she moved on, sorry man
I hope they just put Aerith and Zack in the main party right away in part 3
Tifa got tongue
Aerith got a gloved hand
>Tifa got [optiona shit]
>Aerith got [unskippable date]
>Tifacoomer thread dies
>they migrate here
God, when are they going to fix the face lighting?
I thought vinny would get the Aerith date, but he still got Tifa in the end.
Cetra Quadroons
>saving a prostitute
yeah, Tifa should've died but what can you do? her fans would burn the world down
no no no. this wasnt an insult. that is her actual occupation.
ok?
BUT SHE'S JUST A FRIEND, ANON, JUST A VERY GOOD FRIEND
Your wife is a bee girl. she prostituted herself in the honey bee inn.
but enough about Tifa
Post the handholding.
There must be a compilation somewhere
Tifa won. Get over it aerithbros.
>won a house full of children that are not hers but she still takes care of them and the title of Cloud's friend even though her only competition is a corpse
congrats Tifa, I guess
>Saying this after the Ultimania
Lol lmao
>Headcanonmania
>Tifkeks coping so hard since the day that the Ultimania realeased they call it headcanon
KEK
She won the rights to raise Cloud and Aerith's spiritual child
I actually think they're going to send Aerith and Zack to a pocket dimension in the end in order to keep Advent Children relatively canon, essentially retconning what was effectively their heaven looking place into another universe where they're technically alive but cut off from the main world.
>questions about Aerith and Zack during their gondola date
>this face after the kiss
TRUE LOVE GUYS
>She must still have feelings for Zack 🙁
you'd make that face after a rebound kiss knowing the girl you like maybe still in love with her first love
>Devs didn't even like the Tifa kiss
>They make Cloud give THAT face
I dont even think their intent is to shit on tifa's date, but i'm truly curious about why he had such shift on his personality during her date. That doesnt happens a single time in the last 2 games. I wouldnt be surprised if he's copying something he saw elsewhere, he saw how he can do that when he's with Tifa.
Yeah it remembers me of the part in the ultimania where they said that cloud giving her the flower was just him doing something zack would do.
Noncanon fanservice so he can randomly be out of character for a bit.
Tifa's date isn't all about her ex
no, Tifa's date is all about Aerith's ex
half of Tifa's interactions with Cloud thought, now those are all about her ex-orbiters
I hope Aerith lives and her character is prostituted out to further FF7 media and the retcons ruin her further so no one is happy
>implying the only ones that will be prostituted out won't be Cloud and Sephiroth and maybe Tifa for the actual porn
how new are you?
I saved her and can now claim her as my Cetra wife
At least share, Cloud
I find cool how everyone is taking loveless seriously now, analysing every aspect of it to predict the story. But for some reason they keep ignoring the last dialogue of Rosa and Alphred. LMAO
That's how you know that most theory guys are just memes because they know what is important but prefer to not look at it. Then they act surprised when they miss everything.
And that is probably one of the most important things because it is foreshadowing a reunion at the very end.
>"So, this play is literaly explaining the whole story and even teasing future events, maybe this talk between the two main characters at the end where they assure each other to they'll reunite is relevant? nah"
That play is the reason why i dont even care much about the mechanics of timelines/worlds. The writing on the wall is that a reunion will happen at the end.
Seph kill Tifa too to cause double trauma
he'll kill tifa out of jealousy
Tifa is far superior. Better face, better body and better personality.
>Better face
I wouldn't go that far if I were you
>better personality
What personality?
body=Tifa
face=Aerith
personality=Aerith on most days but it could go either way.
>better body
sure, I guess
>better face
lol no
>better personality
now I know this was a joke
>Better face
disagree, green/blue eyes win
>Cloud; I saved Aerith.
>Barret: Sure you did, Cloud. Tifa, what did I say about using the teeth?
I ship Tifa and Aerith
what personality does aerith have?
City girl with wanderlust, a cutie pie with no fangs, scary to no one, ready to kick anyone's ass.
And people here say that Tifa has no personality kek.
Right? she's a people pleaser, inscure, inmmature woman who'd rather turn into a damisel in distress and interrupt Cloud than let him hunt the people who droped the plateover people's heads
She's a fricking doormat. She should be grateful that Aerith defended her ass when Johnny's girlfriend insulted her lmao
That's why I ship them
Anon, the devs themselves say so.
>Shinra just dropped a whole plate and would've killes the entirety of the slums if it wasn't for Wedge and Aerith
>Cloud wants to rescue Aerith knowing that's just one of the many shitty things they're capable of
>"CLOUD, WAIT! I'M SURE THE PSYCOPATHS AT SHINRA WILL LET HER GO UNSCATHED, REALLY
what a terrible character
that's kinda terrifying
>what a terrible character
Reminder that this was after Aerith went to 7th Heaven to save Marlene at Tifa’s request, which was the very reason she got captured in the first place as she selflessly sacrificed herself for Marlene’s sake
honestly, I think this was the point were I truly started hating her
Tifa plays to win, anon. She knew something was up with Aerith and Cloud the moment she met her at Don Corneo’s. The woman literally convinced the stoic Cloud to wear a dress within the last couple of hours she last saw him. She knew how dangerous Aerith was.
that explains why Aerith just tease him a bit but Tifa went jealous mode as soon as Cloud wakes her up at the sewers
funny. Aerith melted Cloud's exterior persona rapidly, while Tifa still didn't even know what she was dealing with. Cetra women are just that good.
ä good girl, one who'd make sure you didn't get into trouble. An older, more mature girl who could keep you on the straight and narrow and tell you when you're being a silly goose"
I think Claudia would love Aerith
Claudia is team Clerith
Apparently Claudia was a lot like Aerith in the little blurb she’s given in the Ultimania
took only one post to make aerithkeks seethe
They really are the new Rukiagays
How come Vinny insisted so much on getting Tifa's date and then barely cared?
his viewers, probably
Pretty sure he wanted Barret, didn't he?
>right click
>save as MyWife.jpg
now what little cuckboy?
WHY DIDN'T AERITH DIE!?!?!
>t.
BIG
If a girl irl looked this beautiful and was staring at you what would you do Ganker? Would you even be able to get words out of your mouth? Would you even be able to give eye contact back? Why are beautiful girls so intimidating?
The people that got the plat how the frick did you even beat the simulator fights with Zack and Sephiroth? That shit is ridiculous. No seriously, what frick is this shit?!
Like I was getting my shit pushed with the Cait Sith challenge because he sucks dick and ended up spamming Stop on the last enemy and I thought the rest with Cloud would be easy and then wut the frick? This is insane. And to make it worse with the last patch they reduced the HP and MP from 50% to 30% like it wasn't hard enough already.
Well sephiroths is easy, he shits out damage, zacks is a little harder but you gotta master his level channeling gimmick. Also remember to use synergy attacks at the right time, they stunlock the bosses.
Yuffie+ Aerith + ATB Ward exploit. You will melt everything.
You should do it fast before SE nerfs it with a patch...
I personally played agressive for these fights. Focus landing hits and try to get the fights over quickly. Defensive strats just prolong the battle and you can't really do shit except eventually slip up and fail.
It's pretty easy. Did both first try.
Prime mode, sonic boom, Genji gloves, ez
Sephiroth is very easy to kill shit with, Zack has a learning curve but is also really strong with high braver but Zack is better used for heals
Every character in remakebirth is superior to their original
I will not elaborate
Absolutely true. I never cared much for the VII cast, but Rebirth has made them into one of my favorites.
Me too OP. My condolances to those still in the timeline where she died.
I don't know anything about its gameplay but Rebirth has kinda began to win me over with how much it embraces the silliness of the original.
To think they actually included Red XIII walking on two legs, or the parade, or Vincent just unabashedly chilling in his coffin. These remakes may be a mess but some of the soul of the original is there.
Then again not gonna buy a PS5 for this
Wait for the PC release this winter. But expect to pay 80 USD/Euros for it.
the only regret I have is Sephiroth throwing the destruct materia at Cloud and flying away and the Tankceratops not being included but other than that, we're good
>Sephiroth throwing the destruct materia at Cloud and flying away and the Tankceratops not being included
I’m glad they had the good sense to remove these. I greatly prefer the more tonally and visually consistent world this time around
I get why they did, don't get me wrong (though if they made the Hell House work, I can't see why they couldn't do the same for theTankceratops but whatever) I have so little to complain about that this is what I can think of
They gave quite a bit of fanfare to hellhouse in Remake, but even then, you can make it work since it’s technically just a robot that looks like a house. Tankceratops is just too out there since it’s literally a dinosaur with tank tracks for a lower half.
isn't Tankceratops just a robot that looks like a dinosaur, though? Anyway, they didn't include it and, though I'm sad, I'm also ok with that
I was honestly expecting Corneo to bust it out at the Gold Saucer fight. Would have been the better thing to do in my opinion.
Nope she ded
I like aerith because she is funny and cute
Aerith will end up with Zack, Zackbros we need to believe
Oh no! Another thread full of delusional aerithkeks!
She was unironically in a dream I had yesterday and I dont even play these games. Iirc she wasn't dressed in her usual outfit. Needless to say the dream gave me an idea for a 3D video game. Now if only I could 3D model
it's happening
Cloud x Aerith
Zack x Tifa
What is the Goddess blessing?
To be allowed to dissolve into the lifestream.
Sephiroth gives cloud his blessing, which I think is the black materia. It is probably what allows him to create a timeline where aerith lived, but will also induce lots of mental schizophrenia in him
So Goddess blessing could be something to do with the white materia aerith gave him?
From Crisis Core Complete Guide:
>It would be his ‘pride as a SOLDIER’, the impetus for his shift of values, which was the ‘Gift of the Goddess’ to Genesis.
According to non-degrading Genesis, Goddess' Blessing/Gift is character development and ability to regain your best self. That seems to match the lines here, too.
I got Yuffie for the Saucer date because she's best girl, but it feels wrong and non-canon. Really should have gone for Tifa or Aerith.
Yuffie is best date.
Reminder that the english local for this game is trash.
Does anyone know the direct translation of the final conversation between cloud and aerith before bronco flies away, I heard it wasn't about a promise
Yeah, there are tons of really bad localization choices in Remake and Rebirth, and people wonder why we get confused.
I play Japanese audio with subs and when Cloud is attacking Tifa at the Gongaga reactor, all she screams is "Cloud!", but the subtitles say "Don't do this!"
It really is bothersome.
Has anyone already done a very direct translation of chapter 14?
Remake at the train graveyard. English decided to make Aerith sound like a possessive catty b***h by screaming "Mine!", when in reality she just points out to Tifa they already have a bodyguard handy.
indeed
In japanese some of these lines are crazy romantic, the same thing as the japanese version of aerith's resolution scene, the one from remake.
luckily there is a jpn playthorugh with autogenerated subs I can use translate on
Chapter 14 is kinda insane because i was watching reactions from a massive japanese tifa gay, the whole who hypes up every small scene with her, and his natural reaction to chapter 14 was "yo, aerith is also the main girl/ love interest huh"
For japanese people those actions like intertwining fingers or the way she hugs him at the church leave no doubt of her feelings.
They are a lot more reserved with their physical relationships. That's why Aerith also kinda asks permission before hugging cloud, it is a massive act of love.
yea, that line I posted was from zack to marlene
Where are you taking this from, it is really useful
alllthough it's not perfect
People lost their minds when the trailer where they hold hands back to back with the line of "zutto issho dayo" was playing in the background. Insane.
AAAAAH MAMA MAMA AZOTADME PERRAS AAAH
Corneo is so lucky.
>You saved her for Zack
Great job anon
I wonder how zackgays even arrive in this conclusion.
>making sure your bros waifu stays pure for him
Cloud is best bro.
Even if Aerith dies she will live on in porn.
There is no Aerith porn. I won't allow it.
Aerith is a wife/childbearer, not a prostitute. Rule 34 does not apply to her! I dare you perverts!
Aerith is a seasoned pro.
Thread is 16 hours old with plenty of discussion. It's amazing how much better these threads are when the one guy obsessed with "jimbo" finds something else to do, or is banned.
Ok, jimbo. Glad to see you wanted to show yourself so much that you refer to yourself in third person.
Why does nobody ever talk about me other than you?
He now thinks his German bogeyman is Finish.
For real. Funny that it only takes one guy to shut the frick about their boogeyman for everyone to shut up about them. It's almost as if...
He is busy shitposting other games
>Sephiroth swallows
no surprises there
Remember all the anons that said nomura didnt write the story for remake? despite including shite from crisis core.
New interview dropped, nomura was dictating the story the entire time and the writer nojima was just following what was told to him by nomura.
>The interviewer begins with asking how the story was written, and Nojima says that he wrote the plot based on requests from Nomura and Toriyama, and then made adjustments to it based on feedback.
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2024/04/17/final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-post-release-interview-part-1/
so yeh fate whisperers and all teh cringe characters from crisis core? all things nomura told nojima to write and put into the story.
Fricking hell, kingdom hearts is known for their frickery of a story and square enix just had to put nomura as the captain of the ship for remake.
Nomura has too much sway in the company. He is basically what Kojima was to Konami, prior to their fall out. So he can dictate his vision.
Nomura has a lot of influence but even in the 7R project kitase is still above him, there were plenty of times where he talked about how he had to convince kitase for something to happen. Or how Kitase specifically asked for him to implement a new thing in the game.
Kitase as og director and coming up with a majority of VII has definitely the most sway over anyone. Especially now that he is official FF brand manager. If he really wants something within this project, it will likely make it in. This is why the "I want a happy ending for the characters" shouldn't be taken lightly.
To be fair even if he didnt say that, everything of the jannies seems to be there to have a happier conclusion because if this shit will end in the same way it is the worst remake ever because they told the same story but worse.
Nomura said in the ultimania that kitqse had a desire that he wants to fulfill so please look forward to it
I imagine kitase was probably asking for some cool fanservice thing. Maybe the fusion sword, who knows.
I really hope they don't pussy out and actually do something with their timline shit or then I'll have to join the ranks of the haters alongside the purists and I'd rather just kill myself
Yeah, i think og ff7 is a perfect story but i want changes at this point because if things end up in the same way they fricking butchered this story.
True. Introducing the concept of changing fate in a game where there's really only a single thing fans would bother to change, there's kind of no going back. They have to commit now, but I suspect they will.
They will, it is natural. And people who think the third game will just continue the same concept as the second one are forgetting how trilogies work. The first part is the big optomistic start, the second one is where everything goes wrong and it looks like all was meaningless, the third one is where we have the comeback and the concept of the start returns.
>"What is the point of fighting fate if we cant change it"
Cloud said it himself, the writers are aware of it.
Nomura fans are a fascinating bunch. If anyone praises a game, they say "thank Nomura for that" but if anyone criticizes a game "don't blame Nomura for that, that was actually someone else's fault"
It's really that simple.
Nojima is the writer but at the end of the day he writes plot points based on what the director and producer tells them to do. You can complain about the execution or characterization, but you can hardly blame a writer of a videogame for major events of it because a lot of the time maybe the decision wasnt even from him.
That's why you should always see them as a team, trying to use specific names to blame is always stupid when we talk about videogame development. Nojima of course has probably a lot more input as a random writer because he is an og guy, but he still takes decisions as a group with kitase,nomura and toriyama.
This isn't really news. There's been more interviews in the past months that said things along the same lines. Nomura, Kitase and Toriyama come up with concepts that they want to see, then they have Nojima write the scenario while incorporating what they asked for. It's not much different from how the original was written too.
The truth is that all of them have input. In the same way that characters like Zack were created by nojima himself because he needed to tie Cloud's plotwist, no one knew who zack even was weeks before the script was finished.
Poor hamaguchi is the lead director and never gets any credit good or bad lol
I guess it's because he doesn't have a meme associated with his personality yet like Nomura cringe kino or Toriyama romance guy
Hamaguchi isnt talked as much because he is working with other guys who are in this industry for the last 30 years and made some of the most remarkable rpgs ever. But he got very famous after this 7R project. He is the future of CBU1.
Hamaguchi gets the shit done, while the others are the creative side
So obviously the creative ones are the ones that gets praised
Hamaguchi will become infamous when he adds an Aerith full penetration sex scene in 3
everything is Nomura's fault. Even Hamaguchi is just a pseudonim for Nomura.
oops
Cloud it gonna get doubly mindfricked in the next game isn't he?
Schizo Cloud is gonna end up being right
The twist will be that he was right all along. That's literally always been his story arc.
Yeah basically. We'll get to the North Crater and Sephiroth will basically plot dump on Cloud
>Aerith's dead btw you failed to stop me
>Tifa has been lying/hiding the truth from you
>No, you weren't the 1st Class Soldier that accompanied me to Nibelheim
>You're just a failed clone of me, just another of Hojo's experiments like those other robed fellows
>Now give my other self that Black Materia
We are at a point where there are just too much stuff to reveal to cloud at the same time.
Link to new thread?
*rolls up sleeves*
Time to Jimbopost
I sexed her