I thought Tieflings were supposed to be a race of evil demons or something, not these 'oi luv, weez gonna get us an 'ouse in baldur's gate wif a cat in it.' frickers.
I thought Tieflings were supposed to be a race of evil demons or something, not these 'oi luv, weez gonna get us an 'ouse in baldur's g...
That is, in fact, how evil people act casually.
This. Never trust the Br*t*sh
Doesn't matter. They will be purged along with the druids anyway
Men of honor cross druids, double cross minthara, purge tieflings and druids. Level 7 confirmed, then trash gith patrol.
>Men of honor
>murderhobos
Choose one.
It's common for party members to be an exception to their race's tropes
I bet you're fun at parties. JK we all know you've never been invited to any.
They're actually descendants of devils, although part of this is do to Asmodeous doing ??? and making all Tiefling's descendants of devils, somehow.
Asmodeus did some shit that simultaneously converted all tiefling bloodlines into his own (alleviated somewhat in the Unearthed Arcana) and activated any and all latent potential, making anyone with unexpressed infernal heritage undergo a full metamorphosis
all this being done to make tieflings a core race
Both incorrect. A Tiefling can be born if someone in a bloodline made a pact with a devil at some point in time, or if they just got unlucky and got born under an evil omen or something. They are not inherently evil nor are they compelled to evil.
Did you want all of their lines prefixed with (Said Evily + 5 Renegade bad person points)?
There are people who will without a second thought murder all these innocents all for some drow pussy.
In a video game, yeah.
Minthara is best girl.
i murdered both camps. cant heal my condition? die
Holy based
ayo the Red Prince is looking kinda ashy. get this homie the Jergens or some cocoa butter. lmfaoo
billions must die
Shh... he's sleeping
Is The Dark Urge a chud?
No, he's a stud.
°>Not killing Astarion on sight in each of your playthroughs
>a chud
he's a schizo murderhobo
why the frick is he so hot
>cant heal my condition? die
If only you knew the true irony of those words.
There is no irony there. If they must suffer and become Mind Flayer, might as well make sure everything goes down with them is how that poster sees it.
Ah yes, the murder hobo option
Based. I love ruining my playthroughs by slaughtering every killable NPC, and then reading the threads as if they were about a completely different game.
What do the hottest tieflings and drow look like? I want to see so that I may better understand.
Rollin
Not bad I suppose.
I would proudly server under F106, both of them.
rolling for WoW succ
Majority of these aren't even Tieflings
>drow pussy
Yes
Typical chaotic good behavior.
>Heroically help these devil shits defeat a goblin raid
>Walk into camp
>talk to a some boy who sells junk
>Some little shithead pickpockets half of my coins in the mean time
I just helped them from a goblin raid and this is how these little shits repay me?
At least I get some drow breasts if I kill them all.
Thiefling fricking shits.
>Some little shithead pickpockets half of my coins in the mean time
I just bought armor and weapons so I had literally like 20 gold left. Not a big deal, I am a ranger and have no need for money at all. I would've just gave it to him if he asked. But he outplayed me so I guess he earned it. No harm done.
He took 400 gold off me, they all must die.
>nooo a child took my gold
>they all must die
how israeli are you?
How israeli are thieflings that they value all their lives at measly 400gp?
whatever cope you're comfortable with, israelite filth
t. tried to steal 10gp and got 20k gp worth of greatsword through his chest
>t. israelite that kills children for 10gp
burn yourself alive
>t. dindu
t. moron who values his life at 10gp
I didn't try to scam anyone, not like the boy who was selling shit claiming it was magical (israeli) and I don't go around stealing from others (gypsy).
They brought their own fate upon themselves.
>I don't go around stealing from others
Yeah you go around killing children trying to survive unimaginable horrors for pennies while claiming any kind of moral superiority. Please find the nearest sharp object and stick in your israelite throat.
"trying to survive" and "stealing from the violent murderhobo who just saved your sorry ass" are mutually exclusive
The audacity of the thieflings is astounding, just like the druids sheltering and feeding them, you see that little girl trying to steal from them. And they're trying to pull the same tricks on valiant heroes that pass by.
Consider the ramifications if they were left unchecked, and saved, the people of Baldur's Gate would've been economically far worse when a gang of thieving thieflings would be roaming around the streets, so yes, seems like morally valid choice.
Plus it's not like they're elf or human children, they're theiflings for Pete's sake
>valiant heroes
>murdering children
>seems like morally valid choice
And here we have a prime example of Lawful Stupid murderhobo incel palacuck. On the other note -
Decent b8, made me reply. Have a (you) for your efforts.
Shouldn't have violated the NAP, simple as.
>the NAP
>please help my money is being attacked!
go take a nap in an acid pool israelite
>At least I get some drow breasts if I kill them all.
Serving a b***h makes you a b***h as well man. Murderhobe>Absolute
Socio-economic factors are to blame, cool it with the stereotypes
>he didn't play as a rogue to out-thief a little shit
>mfw still don't know how to finish the "get your shit back" quest
>mfw no face when
well yea, men are natural simps
>tieflings
>innocent
absolutely, am gonna run a drow death-squad and hold hands with Minthara while doing so.
Purple pussy man.
Yes.
>drow pussy
say no more
Is that an in-game option?
yes
Yes.
No. They fricked up as a race. They fricked over everyone. Tiefling genocide is understandable.
There is no such thing as innocence. I just murder everyone I come across on principle.
I didn’t even know there was pussy to get. I just fricking hate druids
I'd do it anyway, drow pussy is just a bonus
I WILL have racial homogeny in my fantasy game, regardless of which race or by which means.
No one can read your shit incel, type normally
can you repeat that in english please? I don’t understand your OhioBlack person ESL dialect
That's how evil people normally talk
she wants to open the bakery in the city... don't kill her...
I'll just rape her, then.
So original
with two penises*
Now we're talking.
Feeling daring today aren't we
tieflings are devil bastards, their daddy left for cigs and never came back, they're kind of pissed and don't have to be aligned with those fricks at all
Its 5E, they're a normal race now and there's no racism or discrimination in the setting, so nobody cares about their demon blood.
Yeah that isn't true, not even in the game this is from, so not sure what you're getting at here other than being baited by screenshots.
Tieflings just have some ancestor who made a deal with devils. Tieflings always ultimately could choose who they want to be.
Plenty of racism and discrimination in BG3.
there are no more evil races in d&d anymore.
they literally announced orcs, drow, tieflings, illithids and beholders are no longer evil. and slavery doesn't exist either.
is this why bg3 has no alignment? does 5e have alignment?
5e has an alignment system but it doesn't do anything.
there's no sense good and evil spell. there's a protection from good and evil spell but it only works on celestials/fiends.
D&Done, the next edition of dnd that isn't out yet, put out a playtest with no alignments
>they literally announced orcs, drow, tieflings, illithids and beholders are no longer evil
Good. That was always moronic.
They should go back to the alignments just being lawful/neutral/chaotic, too.
Wow. Restricting my between lawful and chaotic. This chud.
>implying they wouldn't just find some way to make that about racism
Oh sweet summer child there is so much for you to see still
Tieflings were never inherently evil in the way drow, orcs or illithids are, zoom zoom.
They do still feel the call of hell or whatever to do evil, they just don't listen
Then… what’s the point of it?
AESTHETICS
>cute uebermenschen
>what's the point
That's the point!
I want to play a demon without any of the downsides. That's it.
Evil should be looked at individually instead of an entire race.
Reality has taught me otherwise, just look at Black folk.
In D&D, evil races are genetically sociopathic, hence why they are evil. It's why my LG characters can torture drow spawn for information, or build death camps for orcs; they're less people and more like biological robots programmed to be evil by their sadistic and cancerous gods.
Do you know what Ork's gods are and how they operate?
nothing like that matters any more. you'll have Illithid and Beholder characters soon enough no matter how fricking stupid it is
>beholders
dont exist anymore instead
Wait, what?
beholders are no longer universally violently xenophobic because that's problematic for some reason
bullshit. Post proof, homosexual. Oh, wait. You cant.
Good thing I run my own setting and not whatever dumb shit the generic DnD setting is doing these days. Orcs will always be chaotic evil buttholes and Drow/Dark Elves will always be slaving matriarchal spider b***hes. Nothing WOC says can change that lol.
why do liberals keep thinking black people are orcs?
i mean every iteration of orc i've seen do have nig nose and hairstyle choices
You sure? I've never seen an orc with Black person hair
Wow that's surprising that's how much Black folk don't belong in fantasy
because they are racist and they are desperately trying to project that they aren't
Because that's literally what Tolkien designed them to be, a mixture of black and asian people
no, i was sure it was the ottomans/turks/muslims
Apparently it was the Mongols going from the first google search.
>In a private letter, Tolkien describes orcs as: squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes: in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types.
Kinda makes sense.
Huh. I thought the orcs were supposed to be about the evils of industrialization. Wonder where I picked that up from
We can still start the revolution, brother.
No allegory, just inspiration from Tolkien's worldview. Hobbits are the similar to Tolkien for instance. Which would explain his distate of industrialization since he's similar in mindset to a hobbit.
if he was considering real-world analogues for orcs (which is frankly unlikely), it was almost certainly Ottomans
>giving players more narrative freedom is le bad!!!
moron
>This is a fantasy race of ugly, low IQ, violent brutes
>AYO DAS RAYCISS YTE BOI
That's a lot of prejudice. Orcs and drows used to be evil due pure socioeconomic factors, they're good bois now.
>*looks at ugly agressive monster-like tribalistic humanoids
>Orc are just like nig-... I mean black people!
>mfw people look at D&D, fricking Dungeons and Dragons, of all roleplaying games as blueprint for alignment and morality
You know casuals have no fricking clue about RPG rulesets. They probably think they can run anything with D&D.
>He follows the rules of d&d to the letter
d20 Modern was a crime against humanity
then slavery never existed in America!
>Maybe the real evil was the people they implanted along the way!
Wow, just like real life! I think we just solved the mean people problem
is there anything libcucks wont ruin
It's a well known fact, that all the evil people are british.
Ever seen a movie with a villain?
Seems evil to me!
Tieflings aren't supposed to be evil, but they have a stigma surrounding them that makes everyone think they are, and Tieflings don't help their case because they are carefree and mischievous sons of b***hes
karlach!
>INT 9 tomboy barbarian gf
It's a shame she's recruitable only so late and you're stuck with the frog as your tank before that.
probably wouldn't be that hard to beeline for her
Only to start her quest. You probably don't recruit her until Act 2.
Thing's might've changed.
Quite a few things did if their last PFH was anything to go by.
not true. All origin characters can be recruited early in act 1
Disgusting side shave muttoid.
It at least makes sense with the fact that her horn is broken and that side of her head. She has damaged skin too.
Superior tiefling waifu
>secretly hiding your loot
That's because she's a rogue, not because she's a tiefling 🙂
So many years ago today...ah! if it isn't my foster anon.
Cute
Less cute
What happens if I'm not a bottom? Does this b***h really think I'd get pegged?
>tieflings present themselves as innocent refugees
>they immediately set up gangs and start stealing
>they will start an all-out-war with the druids very easily, and they completely slaughter the druids
You didn't think about this very hard.
I'm going to play a tiefling paladin and none of you gays can stop me.
Razielkino…
>you and your human wife frick
>tiefling baby happens
Can't explain that
Raphael made a little visit with your wife
Gotta suck to have that stuff just show up in your bloodline and have no idea about it and now you think your wife is cheating, or being the only Tiefling or Aasimar in town and suddenly some chick gets preggo, has a Tiefling or Aasimar, and getting blamed.
Having an Aasimar child would make you the most popular person in town, you're literally raising a potential saint.
Pretty sure your average person is just going to be at least a little suspicious if their wife suddenly has a child not of their own race.
>have a child with golden eyes and a halo
>go to local church
>your child is blessed by the heavens, says cleric
Pretty sure your average person will think he just win the lottery
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aasimar are not born into the world as a consequence of having Aasimar parents. Their existence is the result of deliberate acts of a higher power and depending on your source, aasimar are actually infertile.
all planar childs (tieflings, aasimar, genasi) are the result of you or one of your ancestors at some point being heavily exposed to planar energy. So maybe your great-great grandfather fought in some war as a paladin and was blessed by a deva or something
In D&D they can come make Aasimar or Human children, there are also those who are just blessed or came into contact with Upper Plane Energy.
Thousands of generations ago your ancestor called a demon a Black person and then he cursed your bloodline.
>cute horns
>vertical pupils
>cute fangs
>cute ears
is this really a curse?
That bald spot on her head is a curse
It depends on how bad you get hit with it anon, some of them look like the ugliest person imaginable and smell like sulfur, while others are just cute humans with accessories.
what do them breasts look like though?
bro half her torso is literally melted
I can heal her
>you and your human wife frick
>aasimar baby happens
Can't explain that
Yeah the Bible is weird like that
>human wife
Yes, I need someone to raise all the children I'm going to sire with the various flavors of pussy I find on my adventure.
>you and your human wife frick
>this is not your beautiful wife
>this is not your beautiful house
The tieflings you see in that camp were full humans just a few months ago. They come from an AP where a full city gets corrupted by the Hells. That's why they're a full refugee camp with families and shit and not just a band of tieflings that grouped together.
I've never liked tieflings, seeing them as flanderized cambions.
But a whole city turning into lesser demonspawn while retaining most of their humanity? Perfectly normal citizens waking up to find themselves different and kind of scary looking, but without the demonic powers or intent that usually comes with this kind of thing? That kind of story has potential. I like it.
I'm pretty sure they were Tiefling's before, just kicked out because they were blamed for the city being dragged into Hell.
Maybe you should try reading the source material some time instead of making stupid assumptions
in 2023 it's forbidden for fantasy races to have any differences other that skin color and body size. everything else is all socioeconomic factors.
>I thought Tieflings were supposed to be a race of evil demons or something
Ironically that is what they were a replacement for. The original Devils and Demons of AD&D were replaced with whatever dreck you have today. Why? Because feelings and religious lobbying. Fast forward to today.
I weep for my lost hobby.
what universe are you living in where demons and devils don't exist in Dungeons and Dragons anymore? Tieflings have been a player race since AD&D
He's a fake homosexual nogaems who thinks googling demogorgon 1e makes him have street cred so he can whine on Ganker
>have been a player race since AD&D
proofs?
>shar worshippers, liches, undead, drow and duergar parties are all able to freely travel on the surface for long periods of time without disguises and enter any towns or cities to talk to npcs as if they fit right in
braindead 5e tards everyone
>planescape
not gygax, not canon
modern settings don't even try to explain how it's possible that drow can travel freely on the surface without constantly being hounded and rooted out.
it's lazy as frick writing, and bg3 already suffers from it.
>modern settings don't even try to explain how it's possible that drow can travel freely on the surface without constantly being hounded and rooted out.
it's lazy as frick writing, and bg3 already suffers from it.
Maybe some guy famous in the forgotten realms called "drizzt" helped with that. Or, you know, followers of Elistrae who trickled in over the centuries.
they are an extreme minority of surface drow, the majority are there to raid, rape, murder, and take slaves.
why would anyone give a drow or somilar non-surface race the benefit of a doubt when they can't even fight them off to begin with?
viconia is being burned at the stake for being a drow spy when you meet her in bg2, and in bg1 she's also about to be murdered for a similar crime.
yet in bg3 you can roll a drow and you're the same as any other elf.
it's trash writing for a trash setting.
samething for tieflings just being reskinned humans, as if the infernal mark on them does nothing. hack shit.
>plot of the first act is all about how drow are making mischief on the surface, and tieflings have been driven out of Baldur's Gate because of racial prejudice after Descent Into Avernus
>playing as a drow makes people instantly suspicious of you (or in the goblins' case, think you're working with them)
what the frick are you talking about
Most people complaining either haven’t played or don’t actually know about the setting
because about 100 years have passed since then? Society changes.
you must work for the larian writing team
>world famous drow spend the last 100 years saving the sword coast from horrors beyond comprehension
>mhhhhh, maybe we shouldnt kill every single one on the spot?
Have you considered the game maybe just isnt for you?
do you really think towns and cities that have multiple generations of families killed and sold into slavery are just gonna forget drow are evil because of some random moron pretending to be good?
let me just take one quick look at the real world aaaaand... yes.
Yes, because African Americans are famously known for forgiving and forgetting slavery since the United States has spent the last half century trying to make up for it...
You are a literal troony homosexual who sees the world through some delusional, whimsical lens that is so far removed from reality that it has more in common with D&D than irl.
culture war homosexual (and even worse, american) spotted.
Enjoy your Pari- oh wait uh maybe Lond- scratch that maybe um Berl- frick frick frick you can have Stockholm right that's still intact innit
holy mother of projection. Let me guess, next you say ywnbaw and troony.
If you want to talk about your persecution complex there's probably a support group on /lgbt/. You can stop conflating African Americans with your gender identity or you can be a better person.
You do get treated differently for it, and can either play into or against type.
drow have been retconned to not doing any of that and slavery doesn't exist in forgotten realms
There’s plenty of slavery in dungeon of the mad mage
>slavery doesn't exist in forgotten realms
That's Pathfinder setting, whatever is called.
I know this may shock you, but other than aforementioned Drizzt... Drow don't really come to the surface very often. They uhh... they can't fricking see. The sun physically burns them. I don't know if this is still true in 5E. But that's how it was and That's how it's been for a very long time. Drow like Drizzt are exceptionally uncommon and even in his book the only other Drow with his mentality is his mentor whose name I forget.
However if I remember correctly another major issue with their society currently, is their goddess is fricking dead. You'd have to ask someone who plays more why I just know Lolth is currently dead.
And just as a final follow-up to how insane you sound, you sound just like my old forever DM who was a radical leftist and hated good people playing evil races. Like you sound completely fricking delusional it's amazing
They retconned that bit in 5e.
Which bit the sun blinding drow or their goddess being dead. I thought the death of the Pantheon thing was a 5E thing.
The sun blinding bit.
I probably keep it classic if I had a drow player . That part doesn't really make sense they live underground they shouldn't be able to live in the sun. Drizzt only got away with it because he lived above ground for so long. But even in his books he really preferred to be underground.
Do you happen to know how the pantheon thing got resolved, because I'm genuinely curious and /tg/ is shit now. The last I heard a bunch of gods were dead and no one knew what happened.
Well the new thing they want to do is have all races be a blank state and let you have ancestry to choose upsides and downsides. So you can be a Human who gets sun blinded, a Drow that is as funny as a Gnome, etc...
drow aren't blinded by the sun and Lolth is alive. But she's not the only drow god now
>Drizzt
His first book describes the raids Drow commit on the surface as something Drow generally do. Drizzt had to partake in one of them and during the massacre he saves a child by pretending to kill the kid and mutilate the body, which makes the house drop out of Lolth's favor and starts Some Shit. The surfacers have all the reasons to hate Drow which is why the dual wielding homosexual had to hide his identity quite a lot. If i remember correctly, even the surface people that thought him to be a helpful hermit or a saviour would drop from feeling gratitude to hatred the moment they found out who he is.
Apparently none of this is "canon" anymore. Even the blinding and sunburns, which would be a major game and story changer by itself. The Drow society is interesting because of its extremes and uniqueness same as other races but now it's just gone.
"classical" Menzobarranzan and the attendant fricked-up drow society still exist, WOTC just made a faction of Good drow to better justify the extremely popular RP archetype of "I want to play Drizzt"
Eilistraee (and Good aligned Drow) predate Drizzt, actually. Drizzt was not a unique concept, he's just the one that became popular.
The Drow as written in the original FR realm routinely raided the surface for slaves and to capture sacrifices for Lolth. This is why Drow were kill on sight to all surfacers, if you saw a Drow alone they were 99% just a scout for the warband about to jump you and your village/farm. The surface races had every reason to hate the Drow, they didn't just chill out in the Underdark and never do anything. And of course at certain points they straight up waged genocidal wars against the Elves and tried to destroy them outright, though generally they lost hard and got driven back underground.
Then that seems like a big enough reason for people to have a lot more prejudice than drow seem to currently get. This isn't "Hey this guy has horns and red skin", it's a coin flip on a "Is this guy going to skin me for fun? Are there more of them around?"
At least they can speak right
Sure, but then that brings it back to the original point - How can they just walk around? Everybody knows at least the bad stuff about Drow, being a rare sight doesn't seem like it would change things.
in BG3, at least, the tieflings and the druids are instantly suspicious of you while the goblins think you're working with Minthara. And I bet drow (and tiefling) PCs will get a lot of shit when you finally reach Baldur's Gate itself.
>WOTC just made a faction of Good drow to better justify the extremely popular RP archetype of "I want to play Drizzt"
That's dumb, because it's not understanding "Drizzt archetype." It's about being a good and decent person coming for the extremely evil and corrupt society. It's about fighting the prejudice and finding a new home and family.
And sure, we had other non-evil drow beside Drizzt. Zaknafein, Liriel Baenre, some small communities of Elistraee followers, but they were few and far between. Giving them whole cities and big communities and being generally accepted kinda kills the thing that makes the Drizzt archetype special. Unless you just want to play a dual-wielding edgy looking elf.
>kills the thing that makes the Drizzt archetype special.
I will say it's kind of interesting though. Drizzt himself is still special - the good drow from the evil drow society. It's the archetype that suffered. Which lets me look at this whole thing as a specific attack against the wave of Drizztgays and that seems kinda funny.
I meant more they don't generally live on the surface. Their raids were fairly short if I remember correctly.
I'm not coffee today so I'll go grab the stupid book wherever it is and find that part. I do remember it though because I remember it being fairly interesting. Those books in general were very good, my forever DM fricking hated them because it made me want to play a Drow, but Salvatore did a great job.
IIRC the raids were one night kind of things. Get in and get out before the sun blinds them
Im not even a polgay, but nudiversity aka making everything uniform is a real fricking cancer. Its good that if you got good dm he usually dont care about being pc, so even woth how shit dnd is you can still play and enjoy it like in 90s.
>we retconned the old lore completely so it doesn't exist anymore
okay schizoposter
don't you get called out constantly for being a drow in BG3
The only drows i remember from 5e are the ones in waterdeep and they are all underworld criminals
Not sure who you are quoting but that literally does not happen in 5E
There was a time period when all mention of the words demon and devil were scrubbed out from the rulebooks, and replaced with tanar'ri and baatezu. Same thing, different name. Apparently both of those are now subgroups of demons / devils?
Those are just the fancy names for demons and devils. Probably back then in response to scared soccer moms during the american satanic panic
Yes that. New names for old stuff, which made it superficially look like the "satanic" elements were removed. It's bloody obvious if you actually read the material, but it was enough to fool the pretend oldgay itt.
>opening of Baldurs Gate 3 is literally a view of the Blood War, the eternal cosmic war of Demons vs Devils
>several NPC in act 1 mention that
Holy mother of midwits. Just try to have basic knowledge about the topic
>Blood War
WotC, in their infinite wisdom, decided to end it.
But they didnt? What are you talking about? The blood war still rages on as always.
Stop reading wiki articles.
please, go ahead, post proof of Wizards ending the blood war. Because im pretty up to date on stuff and played through descent of Avernus. They ended shit
You first
fricking Karlach was literally fighting in the Blood War as the Nautiloid blew through Avernus, it's how she escaped
>supra-genius
So he likes JDM?
>Because feelings and religious lobbying.
tbf they come up with pretty cool replacements like
Tanar'ri, Baatezu and Planetar.
moron.
>supra-genius
>dies to my mass traps that I laid down right in his face
>I thought Tieflings were supposed to be a race of evil demons or something,
They have never been that. This isnt new.
GOD I CAN'T WAIT TO PUT MY TINY HALFING wiener ON KARLACH BOSOM
I WANT TO SEE MY DICKS OUTLINE ABOVE HER GLOWING breasts
>dies from burnt penis
red dragonborns won
The tiefling girl who stole the ritual totem deserves to die because theft is a violation of the NAP.
Simple as.
>HA HA LOOK AT THOSE LIBERALS NO ONE EVER SAID ORCS = Black folk BUT YOU
>Meanwhile, back in 2017:
At least be consequent with your own bullshit.
>I thought Tieflings
Why? You clearly know nothing about D&D.
bg3 is a sex-relationship simulator for lonely incels, femcels, and zoophilliacs, nothing else
>I thought Tieflings were supposed to be a race of evil demons or something,
I am guessing that you didn't play NWN2? Or Planescape?
There's no way that's not a pegging joke.
>horny women writting rpgs
GO BACK
Go where?
Frick, I shouldn't have tried Early Access. Ended up playing 20 hours over the weekend.
Same as the tabletop, I just can't get into any other class besides warlock though.
>start as warlock
>cast armor of agatys
>you now have only 1 spell slot left for the next combat
what where they thinking. Its gonna be wizard/sorc for me all the way
Just use rests. There's no real penalty to them.
Or don't bother with agathys at all and focus on being a long range glass cannon with lots of cc.
Ah, you're shit.
Eldritch Blast and the at wills make it a lot closer. Bigger issue with warlock is preserving slots for reactions, though that might be simplified here if they don't get shield since no hexblade
I shouldn’t have bought it. I spent half my Sunday struggling to hold my attention on it. It’s boring and unengaging. Combat is fun I guess. I wish I could refund.
I'm glad I bought it and tried the early access because it has all the issues I have with DOS2, but the combat is so much better.
Unironically I really hate the story, but I'm really excited for the battles in this game. I've said it in a few threads but the Mind Flayer plotline is really fricking gay. Otherwise I think the writing is fine. Not great, but fine.
the mindflayers clearly aren't the central antagonists
the mind flayer baby thing is what I think is gay, but if it ends with me massacaring Illithids I'll live.
So is Drizzt in the game? If so can I fparty him?
Probably not.
I'd want to say he'd be too high level to join anyway but seeing how you get Jaheira to join you...
Tieflings are born from planes touched, they don't have set alignments though tend to be more chaotic thanks to said planestouched
>a thiefling child tries to steal your belongings when you first speak with him
Thiefling bros..?
>play Rogue
>out-thief him
Tieflings are just people with demonic blood in them. Oftentimes this blood comes with certain DARK URGES that they have to resist, but they're not inherently evil or anything. Great grandma fricked an incubus/grandad fricked a succubus and so they get horns, glowing eyes and weird skin colors.
Don't mind me just being the only based character to ever exist
Based. Been playing through the EA as a drowchad myself.
>beast master
>int 8
Do you need INT for beast master???
No, he's just making the joke that you're supposed to be the master of beasts, not as smart as a beast
Don't blame me. INT is literally useless on anyone other than Wizards and Rogues or some other skill monkey. You can be wise yet undereducated or simple lacking in world knowledge and at the same time as you could be smart yet doing I'll-judged things without forethought. Wisdom governes anything concerning nature and animals, senses and intuition. And insight, the most OP skill in the game.
Lolth cuckolds are put to the sword on sight.
Persuasion and Deception are the god skills in BG3
>seldarine drow
Being a tiefling literally just means somewhere in your genetic bloodline, someone pulled some shit. Fricked a devil (tieflings are usually devil tainted but they can be tainted by demons/the abyss instead as well) made a deal with a devil, crossed a devil. Something.
It's essentially a curse on the bloodline that causes people to come out looking a bit horny. They are entirely mortal, live basically as long as humans, and are mostly the same in every way besides things like their racial fire resistance or w/e racial boon your chosen flavor of tiefling gives. They don't ping as evil or desecrated to a paladin and they are in no way innately evil or supernaturally compelled to be evil, Tieflings tending to evil is a result of society just kind of assuming they're all going to turn out bad.
I like when they're lavender and have freckles.
>have freckles.
freckles confirmed as a character creation option in the PFH, so rejoice
Based indeed
muh dick
Also, sauce?
>(tieflings are usually devil tainted but they can be tainted by demons/the abyss instead as well)
Not anymore. DnD Tieflings all looks like those World of Warcraft things now because their bloodlines got overruled by Asmodeus.
not anymore. That has been changed years ago
Oh, that's good.
non-Asmodean tieflings kept being born after Asmodeus's ascension, although most are still Asmodean because he converted literally every living tiefling to Asmodean.
You can still play Mephistopheles or Zariel Tiefling in BG3
indeed, and there are plenty of Mephistopheles tieflings among the refugees (not sure about Zariel)
upper one looks like soulless boomer shit. Lower one is better.
No.
I want to see barbarian and monk having sex
>official vs fanart
what's the problem
bottom is official too
Officially fan art.
>soulless corpo artwork on generic fricks in boring clothings
>characters made by players having a good time.
Imagine being the guy saying "Yeah, uuuuuhm.... i want to be a little guy in a coat. And he has hairy feet, ok?" Thats some homosexual shit. No, you want to go crazy with the boys. "Bro, my guy is some orc dude with a giant fricking sword. And you know what? This giant fricking sword has like some eye of sauron on in. Why? Shut the frick up, its cool."
Bottom is ugly and feel of oc donut steels 🙂
Its ok to have shit taste and worship shitty boomer art, anon. You do you. But it wont make you based and it wont give you any street cred.
Group pics are always fun commissions
>three reasonable players and a huge homosexual
>three reasonable players
>a tiefling with tentacle arms mutation
GOOlock, very reasonable
Aberrent mind sorc/bit of warlock flavor that got her powers from an encounter with a weird far realm creature. I don't feel that's overly "unique" or special snowflake given I'm pretty sure a far realm encounter is on the table of presented ideas for how your sorc could have gained their magic, since sorcs are generally magical people rather than people that studied/learned magic like a wizard.
I really like that you just threw cuckold in there for no reason.
Sorcerers are supposed to get their powers through a bloodline, though, so that really doesn't make sense unless you're implying that her ancestors fricked Cthulhu.
They dont have to. Storm sorcerers get their powers from being influenced by a big elemental storm that raged during birth or childhood. There is no parental lineage involved.
"Sorcerers carry a magical birthright conferred upon them by an exotic bloodline, some otherworldly influence, or exposure to unknown cosmic forces"
Doesn't mean one of your ancestors has to be a great old one. Warlocks and their weird pacts passing things down their bloodline is a thing.
nah i agree with you anon, that Tiefling girl having weird symbiote tendrils is fricking rad. i might borrow that touched by a cosmic force origin one day, that's good stuff.
It has been a real fun concept to play with, but takes a bit more effort from the dm to make it go smoothly I think.
breasts too big.
I also always thought her breasts looked a bit too bolt-on like in that commission.
Tiefling sexo.
Aye.
The tentacles don't always obey her, and have even puppetted her around against her will. So probably. Her tail absolutely does but that's partly of her own conscious will.
Does that tentacle ever slip into her free hole whenever she's getting dicked?
That clown is one of the best players at that table and other groups we play with. Also my character wants the clock (Clown wiener).
dont be mean to the guy on the right
Don't be mean to the poor druid girl
Man that clown guy really ruins the whole piece, he looks so out of place it's ridiculous. What a terrible character concept.
>Random tentacles on tiefling
>Disney princess
>*Holds up spork* clown
>Gun using cuckold
I think the "gun" is supposed to be some kind of flute or piccolo. Dude looks more like a bard than a gunslinger
The tiefling looks very cute!
Thanks anon.
No pOrc no buy.
For the love of God please never draw that third character in a group pic again.
Man people hate the clown. Unfortunate she's a really good player.
I only watched parts of it, but I wish they'd just had Cad for the whole campaign instead of the cringey as frick nihilistic tiefling or w/e they were doing with molly.
i like how it's 3 relatively normal D&D characters and then one Korean MMO villain outta nowhere. that dude looks like he's straight outta Genshin or Lost Ark. lol
I like how three of them have ridiculous shit like tentacles and maraccas and the other guy just has a gun.
>smug trickster archetype
that clown is based if this is PF2e and he's using the juggler archetype
If you remove the pink-haired homosexual and the two dykes the bottom is a million times better than the top. Top's just four middle-aged school teachers LARPing.
>Top's just four middle-aged school teachers LARPing
As G-d intended
>the pink-haired homosexual
Ironically he was probably the best character there, despite the homosexual looks.
The 2 teachers on the right are Ubermensch you'd be lucky for them play DND at your table you gross homosexual
>Top
>Ranged and sneaky characters are male, the only woman is the warrior
Woke shit
class is male
that would be the opposite of woke shit because properly drawing a bow requires a great amount of strength and is therefore far easier for men than women, so depicting a woman as the ranged class would be woke shit, not the other way around
>top pic shows the woman posing uselessly while the men begrudgingly get ready to take her through another fight that is likely her own fault
>bottom pic is just everyone hanging out and posing
tieflings are not naturally evil, they are just normal people with demonic heritage and are thus ostracized.
>tierflings
Gross!
My party:
Female Elf Paladin
Female Elf Cleric
Female Elf Wizard
Female Elf Ranger
Elves are not for adventuring with.
Elves are for taking human wiener.
I don't know why the races in DnD have this "special snowflake" feeling yet other games with races don't suffer from this
>a genki tomboy tiefling who really wants normal relationships and life
>an evanescence fan going through an active emo phase
Anyone else a straight white male may be interested in?
depends on how you feel about a literal sex cultist
Yeah drows are NOT worth it.
you frick her so good she has a crisis of faith
>quits being an absolute follower
>comes back to Lolth like the drow prostitute that she is
She'd cut your dick off for shits and giggle.
>chad-zak
Maybe i should make a drow paladin after all
drizzts sister tried to bang him during their graduating ritual
Was it Vierna or Maya? I remember it happening, but don't remember which sister it was.
It was Vierna. Honestly Drizzt is a terribly written character, he would've been far more interesting if he actually went along with the evils of his society for a long time before he got exposed to other cultures and ideas and realized the Drow were fricked up. Instead, he's inexplicably Good starting from childhood with no real explanation as to why he is this way other than author fiat. Even Zaknafein being a good man doesn't explain it since he barely interacted with Drizzt growing up, Drizzt just resists and ignores all the evils and temptation of Drow society because.... he just does, okay?!
I just blame it on being written as a prequel. Salvatore first wrote the Icewind Dale trilogy. The Dark Elf trilogy was written afterwards and it was crammed into this
>at the end of the first book he escapes Menzoberranzan
>at the end of the second book he escapes the Underdark
So there was only one novel depicting his upbringing in a drow society
Also I would have banged Vierna if I were him. I used to think that when I was reading it over 20 years ago and I still think that.
See the thing is in the original Crystal Shard book Drizzt was actually interesting. Originally, he was centuries old, and was implied to have partaken of all the vile and wicked things Drow society had to offer, and had cast it off for a life of solitude in the harshest and most desolate wilderness he could find after he realized the truth of what the Drow were.
Then Drizzt blew up in popularity and he did The Dark Elf trilogy, wherein Drizzt suddenly isn't even a century old when he leaves, never partakes in a SINGLE evil action the entire time he's in Menzoberranzan, from childhood to adulthood, despite having several opportunities and encouragements to do so. I mean Drizzt was practically a capegay character in that trilogy, he wouldn't even kill people who betrayed or were out to kill him unless he had no other choice. The character is just so dumb, he's this paragon of righteousness and compassion with absolutely zero reason for him to be so. You never get any soul searching, any regret, any torment or real character building from Drizzt as a result, since he's just perfectly good all the time since he was born.
>opportunities and encouragements
I think it's safe you say you're downright required to commit evil in Menzoberranzan, between child sacrifices, slavery, hot incest and whatever else that's going on it's probably not that easy to generally avoid a "Do some fricked up shit or i'll skin you alive you lowly male" kind of a situation.
Drizzt skates by this too, he should've been sacrificed multiple times but he's not because his mother decides he's so god damned talented with swords (since he's Zaks kid) that he's gonna carry the house in inter house warfare that she keeps intervening and keeping him alive. After he refuses to participate in the orgy or frick his sister, for example, his sister takes him to the spider pits to get thrown in and devoured, but his mother comes in and saves him. So I'll give credit where it's due, at least Salvatore gave an explanation for that part of it. He still never gave any reason why Drizzt is just so magically good and pure though.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Drizzt join a pirate crew at some point? Been a while since I've read the books, but I seem to remember something about the pirates being the first group to accept him as he is since they were all outcasts too and what's one more oddball in a murderhobo crew
>Drizzt's 2 levels in Barbarian were gained by being a paragon of good
You should probably re-read the Dark Elf trilogy. Not as good as the originals, but there's still quite a bit of grit in it.
The levels he gained in Barbarian were due to his period surviving in the Underdark after he left Menzoberannzan where he was barely surviving in the wilds. Drizzt in the Dark Elf trilogy never commits a SINGLE, SINGULAR, ONE, evil action. At all. The entire time. Because, why? It's the worst part about Drizzt as a character, he never earned being different, he never went through any true moral struggle or any kind of regret and therefore redemption, he just always was good from the moment he was born and magically resisted the influence and power of his incredibly evil society simply because the author says so.
Ya, as much as I enjoy (most) of the books he really should have been written to have committed some sort of evil. Like maybe actually kill that one elf b***hes parents so when she comes for revenge it's somewhat legit
I can kinda sorta believe it. One singular occurrence in the whole race, like a random mutation. Doesn't make for an interesting basis, yes, but somewhat plausible i suppose. Some people are born with Lawtism, he pulled the Goodsperg card.
>eat brother in the womb
>you get born
>moron says you're innocent because you're a baby
What goes in the womb stays in the womb brother
Lots of humans do it in real life too.
Pretty sure Larian said you could be sacrificed in a sex ritual, maybe that's how Minthara goes back to Lolth?
Near goes back to Lolth if you tell him that the Absolute mingles with the mindflayers. Minthara is definitely gonna backstab your ass literally?
>lose out on loot if you make enemies fall because the pits are bottomless
Frick that shit.
The sad reality is that games like the original BG games aren't financially responsible to make anymore and frankly the /vg/ is a perfect example of why.
Take Pillars of Eternity; Was it flawed? Yes. Was it terrible? No. But you'll see it being dragged over the coals here in /vg/.
Another example is Solasta:
>Does it have ugly character models?
Yes.
>Does the game have a large campaign with in-depth systems?
Yes.
>Is it a real Indie studio working on a shoe string budget?
Yes.
>Did they include the option to select 'other' as your gender and allow any voice for any gender, because it takes no time to implement but generates a lot of good free marketing?
Yes.
But again, you see it being dragged over the coals in this very thread just a page or two ago. With people shitting on this game also boasting that they aren't giving Solasta a dime by pirating it.
I've purchased both and I like both enough to accept there's good in the bad. I purchase many Indie Studio RPG's if I see them pop up simply to support them, even if it's not my type of game. But plenty of people here would rather scorn a game for one feature they don't like, despite liking everything else, and not give them a single dime. And that's why we're at where we are. People need to understand that being too damn critical with your wallet's vote also has consequences. You reap what you sow.
Solasta just straight up isn't a good game
But solasta is really good. I played through like 1.5 campaigns of it with some people from my dnd group.
Could Solasta have had better-looking characters?
Yes
Could Solasta have NOT included troony shit in the character creation?
Yes
>Did they include the option to select 'other' as your gender and allow any voice for any gender, because it takes no time to implement but generates a lot of good free marketing?
OK so if it generates good free marketing then surely it would balance out the people who didn't buy the game because of this, right?
i bought Solasta but legitimately can't bring myself to get past character creation because the game looks so bad. i'm just hoping it'll get a big VU eventually and i'll finally get to play it. looked like it might be good for scratching that DOS2 itch without starting another 200 hour campaign. lol
>Solasta
I straight up have some of the most atrociously bad dialogues I've ever seen in game. Like god damn it's so bad it circles back at being good. Though I haven't played it for too long.
Dude I bought and played Solasta, the game isn't just "ugly character models" it is legit the worst looking characters ever made in a game since maybe NWN, and even that may be better. Aesthetics matter, you don't have to knock them out of the park, but they do have to at least get past the "looks decent' marker. This isn't even going over the fact that the campaign is pretty dull, and that the voice acting and dialogue is outright horrendous, and the story is forgettable at best. The character building is also really bad and bare bones, there's virtually no interesting or fun ways to build a character. The ONLY decent part of Solasta was some of the things they did with the combat, that's it, and it isn't some kind of revolutionary and amazing game even in that regard, it's just decent/good. A 3/10 game at best.
The models looked better during the beta but then they made them ugly for some reason and deleted all and any threads about it on steam.
did they just thaw you out? have you been in a time warp playing AD&D the last 30 years? lol
i want to hold hands with Jester
me too, anon. me too.
I like how some people like to blame CR for characters in BG3 looking ugly when their characters usually look like this.
They're all demon spawn. I don't know the exact current canon because I haven't looked in a couple years, but at one point in 5th edition Asmodeus made it so all tieflings alive were instead related to him and thus their souls go to him when they die. I know new tieflings have since been born from other demons that then doesn't happen to, but nearly all tieflings to my knowledge go straight to hell unless otherwise claimed. All else besides, if a Asmodeus-blooded tiefling reproduces it is objectively a bad thing.
I don't think Asmodean tieflings are necessarily doomed to Hell, he just converted all tieflings to the Asmodean bloodline as a devil loophole to make himself a "racial god" like Gruumsh and ascend. They're not actually bound to him.
The problem this introduced is that breeding with a tiefling always produces a tiefling rather than the bloodline being diluted away
Like I said, been awhile, and I'm open to being wrong or right, but I'm fairly sure I'm not completely off. Never really liked tieflings regardless because they've always just seemed evil adjacent. A foot in the door, so to speak. Like Star Wars zabraks, or perhaps more accurately sith purebloods.
>Tieflings were supposed to be a race of evil demons
They're all supposed to be unique as frick with varying shades of evil. But ofcourse Tieflings became the race for homosexuals and trannies so they're all misunderstood and unjustly discriminated upon now.
What I wouldn't give if DnD games actually had proper tieflings like PoE has for their Godlike race.
>Humans don't trust tieflings (and deep inside they fear them), but they remain inexplicably fascinated by tieflings just the same. The planetouched are often accused of secret plots and awful alliances - mostly without a shred of proof - because of who and what they are.
this is directly from the 2nd edition book that introduced tieflings as a player race
>expecting something serious from Larian
You're going to get unfunny "joke" dialogue instead and you will pretend to like it
I will not play this game no matter how many times you shills make these threads. I would and will rather play through F.E.A.R 2 and 3. You can't stop me.
Thats ok. Your purchase decision is utterly irrelevant. You are not required as a customer.
You responded therefore I win. Better luck next time 7mancucksquad.
If I could stop you from doing something, I'd stop your frogposting. Enjoy your F.E.A.R, toad.
>FEAR 3
I puke
I've never played DnD or any tabletop, I just play video games based on them.
Same
I've played it a couple times but it was always shit. I don't have friends anymore, so I can't even play shitty games. I just makes characters sometimes for fun.
That's a shame anon, I recommend looking for an online group. DnD/Tabletop has been more fun than any video game I ever played.
Tieflings have always been the unfortunate, often orphaned offspring of demonic things doing the dirty with lesser races. Quite often without consent, leading to the orphaned part.
t. AD&D 1st edition veteran.
>there are people that play dnd that let new rulebooks or settings they can ignore ruin their personal table's fun
>there are people that don't play dnd that sit and seethe over the idea of imaginary people having their double imaginary game ruined by new rulebooks and settings they can ignore
Why?
You can do whatever you want
That's the whole idea
autism and no games. If they played games with the boys, the would know that they can have all the slavery in golarion and all the pure evil orcs in the forgotten realms they want. No one can stop you. But since they get all their shit from memes and youtube, they get their dopamine kick by being angry at nonsense
>seethe over the idea of imaginary people having their double imaginary game ruined by new rulebooks and settings they can ignore
There is a legitimate concern in new sourcebooks, because those shape the culture of the player base. A player base that's unpleasant to be part of can make an otherwise acceptable TTRPG system into an obnoxious one.
Nothing new. Annah-Of-The-Shadows had a thick Irish accent.
Also best Tiefling girl in Forgotten Realms canon.
>Annah
>Forgotten Realms
She's from Planescape.
Planescape is part of Forgotten Realms. It's campaign just like Forgotten Realms, and places like Sigil also exist in Forgotten Realms campaigns.
God I want her to be my wife.
To think in another timeline Beamdog would be making a rtwp Baldur's Gate 3.
what's the coolest flavor of dragonborn
cool scalies
two penises
Female.
You will never be a sequel.
All non-human races in D&D are essentially just humans wearing cosplay. Fantasy races are fricking stupid.
>refugee camp is full of demons
I feel like there is a hidden message here.
>refugees are being manipulated by a devil worshipper to serve his own ends
hmmmm...
>literal demons look more soulful than real life Mexican African Asian Paki refugees
>playing BG3
>playing as this hardass who takes no shit from anyone
>romance a female of my choice
>tell her she should know her place when she doubts one of my choices
>she cheats on me
>murder her the same night
Honestly, given that the game dev are clearly left wing.
I'm kind of shocked that the game let you exterminate a group of refugees, children included.
You even get sex with a woman after that.
I can at least respect the fact that they take their "player freedom is absolute" approach seriously.
I'm glad they put in Dark Urge so you have a way to deal with the ESG characters
>given that the game dev are clearly left wing
>devs told shut the frick and have fun to a moronic french b***h after her line 'everything is political'
???
Swen clearly has a hard time navigating that horse shit, he said "change the gender" in the character creator when showing off the dragonborn despite the fact that they removed genders halfway through the early access on request from the twitter troony hoard
the American lead writer said it too
This is why I give them a pass for including this shit. They clearly did this just for marketing reasons and to get the screeching twitter crowd off their backs. Their discord and all forums were bombarded by those people demanding this inclusion. Doesn't help that many other games even from Japan has started to do this too. This may just become new standard going forward for all and any character creator.
The body type shit ended up help us get the muscular body types, so I'm actually happy with that
if a game has a body type in the character creator with just 2 options that are clearly just male and female it's INSTANT refund and pirate the game or play something else if it's not cracked yet
fortunately for you there are four options
then it's not instant, but may still happen depending on if 2 of them are just a man/woman and the other 2 are man(fat)/woman(fat)
I now have bad news
although it's man (muscular) and woman (muscular)
that just about does it. i'm not even surprised
it's on GOG and the director supports piracy so it's cool
i refund that stuff strictly because it's not cool
I'm saying you can still play it without financially supporting it, silly
yeah that's how piracy works
>they removed genders halfway through the early access on request from the twitter troony hoard
Huh? Why would twitter troony hoards request that?
BECAUSE GENDER ISNT BINARY, CHUD!
They didn't remove shit, you could always create a female with a beard and a mans voice, just not change pronouns or something.
you can be left wing and still dislike leftist obsessed with politic and trannies.
>you can be left wing and not leftist
No you can't
American media groups have just tried to hijack what Left Wing means, Left Wing usually means you don't support corpo dictatorships and care about workers rights. troony-Brown Wing isn't Left Wing.
>"No, our game has real themes not based on 21 century politics, leave the real world out of htis"
He said that in the most diplomatic way, but realistically even something as simple as that would get many people angry. It's bordering on saying 'Our game isn't political' which pisses people off nowadays.
They aren't left wing, they're just pandering to as many people as they can, including moron journos
I really wish Twitter homosexuals hadn't become their target audience
A bunch of people liked Neeshka in Neverwinter Nights 2.
I found her annoying, but people found her cute or something.
I want my dark elf waifu to be a pajeeta not a boring white b***h this game has no variety it's all prefabbed
Wizards of the Coast wiped their ass with all AD&D lore pre-2000s.
Nowadays Tieflings are just le quirky human girl with horns just like a vtuber! They're not a bastard hybrid race with demonic blood in their veins predisposing them towards wicked behavior unless they make conscious efforts to be Good and Lawful.
Tieflings were never predisposed to Evil. Not even in AD&D.
did you know that (you) yourself and your DM can decide what your Tieflings are like, anon?
Yeah in TT but this is Ganker, not /tg/, licensed games will have to follow the lore of the setting, you won't have an in person DM to adjust it for you, so what WotC does actually has a significant impact on any D&D video game adaptations since they will follow that canon.
I challenge you to find a single sourcebook that says tieflings are inclined towards Evil
I'm not the guy you were talking to about Tieflings, I'm just saying it's stupid to bring up tabletop DM discretion when we're talking about video games which will always follow WotC canon, whatever it is.
5e Player's handbook says most tieflings are evil but also goes on about how there's no inborn tendency towards evil.
Races of Faerun says tieflings have a strong tendency towards evil because of the harsh environment and discrimination.
A Player's Guide to the Planes also mentions discrimination being the reason there's barely any good tieflings.
That's three sources who all say tieflings aren't born evil, they all just choose to be that way.
>5e player's handbook
where lmao
You found the right pages and couldn't be bothered to read them. Just above your crop, under the heading "Self-reliant and Suspicious".
Unless you want to argue that "swindlers, thieves and crime lords" does not equal evil, in which case, frick you.
I think Chaotic Neutral when I think swindlers and thieves ackshually
crime lords, sure, but there aren't going to be many crime lords by definition
I am so tired of the "I'm not evil, I'm CN! TEE HEE" copout. No, you are not fricking Neutral, you are Evil, you hurt or victimize other people for your own selfish gain, that is by definition Evil. I swear CN is the most misused alignment in the game, so many NE and CE characters hide behind it so they can do whatever they want while avoiding the Evil alignment tag, which is why CN characters have such a terrible reputation to this day.
I'd argue that anyone seeking to make a living specifically at the expense of others, like a thief or swindler, would count as evil. Sure, neutral or even good people can end up stealing things, too, if the situation calls for it. Especially chaotic neutrals might have trouble understanding the whole concept of property and end up indefinitely borrowing lots of things. But theft and scamming as a way of life sounds pretty evil to me.
What I consider pretty important here is that theft is a very human kind of crime. Tieflings may end up as evil people, but it's a human kind of evil, not baby-eating demonic evil.
Why the frick would a CN have trouble understanding the concept of property? Chaotic doesn't mean moronic, it just means you value individual concerns over group concerns. In fact I would argue most people in modern Western nations fall under CN more than any other alignment, but because of homosexuals that want to be thieving, murdering buttholes without being Evil always take this alignment, it's become a complete clusterfrick.
I think I phrased that badly. Should've put it the other way around, that if there's a character that doesn't understand the concept of property, they're probably a CN. Not that all CNs are like that.
A character that doesn't understand the concept of property is either a Kender (and therefore CE) or a literal fricking moron with sub 6 INT, it's not really an alignment question.
I'm going to concede just because that Kender CE part made me laugh. You win this time.
>In fact I would argue most people in modern Western nations fall under CN
Most people probably obey the laws, or at least, I do...Maybe I should pirate stuff or jaywalk for that chaotic experience.
Nah, Tieflings have always been like that, just less "UwU so cute" and more 'Damn she's fine."
This poster is completely, 100% correct. Not a single fricking person in this thread besides myself and maybe this guy even played D&D back when TSR owned it, so politely shut the frick up and accept your second-rate goyslop 5e paper WoW simulator (5e D&D).
Whenever I see dialogue from this game I feel like killing myself
They are the sparkledog race for OC donuts. If you see a player with one you can be sure they are an insufferable homosexual.
I don't fricking understand. I know a lot of you people played DnD, and you still think being a literal demonspawn is GOOD? Read lore even just a little and realize in every at least slightly civilized place those horn-Black folk would be dead the second they show up their ugly heads in public place. Blood from demon-daddy bends them to do evil shit, and if you forget about that - frick you, zoomie.
>Tiefling
>Warlock class with max CHA
Is there a more vanilla experience than this, other than human fighter?
Elf wizard
Dwarf cleric
Halfling rogue
Drow ranger
>Halfling rogue
Always a good time.
>demihuman characters
Always an insufferable homosexual.
Tieflings were almost universally evil up until around 4e when they became the new go-to for "I'm a good person, but I'm a discriminated-against outcast because of my race" characters. In 3e it was drow. In 2e it was half-orcs.
Of course, the character trope has now been rendered completely pointless since 5e is such a ridiculous multicultural gay fest now and all racial distinctions and conflicts are verboten, so the obsess with the "I'm so oppressed" character is all the more silly.
It doesn't stop all the homosexuals who play D&D on tabletop from making every single character that exact archetype no matter what race they play, though. Do heroic adventurers who had a good life and simply seek to make the world a better place even exist anymore?
No, 90% of DnD players nowadays all play the same 2-3 modern archetypes:
>Victim of systemic whatever-ism
>Cynical burnout with daddy issues
>Aloof emo who needs their cold heart thawed
Strange how the game went from heroic adventures to an emotional support group. No idea how that happened
dnd is popular with teens again? that's a good thing
lol, no, just 20-30-somethings who never grew out of high school
Huh, the effects of not Gatekeeping are that noticeable.
I can't find this scene on youtube, any help?
It's in the Druid Grove, right away. I had a quick look myself, you're best looking at a Longplay. All the refugees are actually really delightful, they did a good job.
I need a mod that removes all of the br*tish accents in the game
you want a mod that mutes all voice acting except JK Simmons?
half demons, but since Baldur's gate is being written from the worse parts of DnD lore (version 3 and beyond) theor instantly pussies
half demons are cambions, not tieflings
Are tieflings like quadroons?
Quadroons at the most, though they can also have very far removed origins from their predecessor, or their parents could just be very unlucky or cursed.
tieflings can pop up from anyone who's been touched by Hell/Abyss
maybe granddad fricked a succubus in his youth before marrying grandma
maybe your dad made a deal with a devil
maybe your second cousin once removed told a demon to go frick itself and got a curse placed on your bloodline
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I think you even find out that the tiefling refugees used to be humans before their city got dragged to Hell.
I think that's more the case in Pathfinder lore
but still pussies
These threads remind me of the Pillars countdown threads we had.
Never remind me of Pillars ever again
Im gonna do it...
I have a feeling I know what it is and please don't. Don't be a homosexual and post it. It's almost as bad as the Linzi shit about her stealing the treasury.
Oh god... I cant hold it...
Idk what is going on. Please tell me.
Ekera. Just so.
The game that killed obsidrones
>DM to men
>special snowflake race characters, min-maxing out of the ass, crying whenever what they do doesn't work, constantly needing me to hold their hands on where to "advance the plot", "we're the good guys" morality, constant jokes, don't take the world seriously and treat everything like a videogame
>DM to women
>all humans characters, build made to match the character while still functional, plotting and betrayal, large-scope schemes, grounded "I protect my family and friends" morality, will genocide at moment's notice, make their own plans and tell me what they want to do, write entire notebooks worth of notes and keep track of the world's lore
I don't understand it but I accept it.
Men do whatever the frick they want, wom#n do what they think it's socially acceptable to do. They only act that way because they think they should, they literally are secondaries giving >you's while arguing how there's no evil races and alignment does not exist.
>interacting with women
>ever
found your problem
>min-max
>always deliberately tank one of my class-critical ability scores so I'm forced to work around it in interesting ways
Works wonders for forcing yourself to think outside the archetypes. The downside is you play like garbage for the early game.
Tieflings are now diverse refugees who can do no wrong and are kept down by evil nazis you need to punch on sight.
Boy do I love modern gaming.
Even better - everyone is now diverse refugees who are kept down by evil nazis you need to punch on sight... except the diverse refugees also run every shop, criminal organization, guild, and 95% of the world's societies, so it's unclear where all these evil nazis are supposedly coming from.
I wonder how they're going to handle the obligatory "kill Drizzt to get his swords" fight/quest this time? I wonder who they have voicing him?
Can I frick a dragonborn tho?