I unironically want nightime games to remaster Deus Ex and Vampire Masquarade Bloodlines.

I unironically want nightime games to remaster Deus Ex and vampire Masquarade Bloodlines. Both could use lighting and physics as well as bugfixes. Both could be fun on the switch as well.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    are those real dialogue options from the game? sounds cringe
    anyway, deus ex with ragdoll physics would be GOAT

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >are those real dialogue options from the game?
      The first one is implying she suffers from two personalities, it requires the player to be a malkavian[which is also a spoiler, but playing as a malkavian makes you get spoilers because of the hivemind]. The second dialogue is what you expect from a malkavian character. If the player was any other clan, the dialogue would be different.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        reasonable

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >haven't played it
      what are you waiting for?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >are those real dialogue options from the game?
      The first one is implying she suffers from two personalities, it requires the player to be a malkavian[which is also a spoiler, but playing as a malkavian makes you get spoilers because of the hivemind]. The second dialogue is what you expect from a malkavian character. If the player was any other clan, the dialogue would be different.

      malkavian are poetic cringelords basically

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your post is a ruptured anus ripe with semen and AIDS

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe some QoL improvements as well. Game feels a little dated and the controls are Clunky. Born in 2003, if that matters.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > nightime games
    You're thinking of Nightfire studios, they're the ones making a lot of remasters of old games

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      *Nightrider studios

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you mean Nightwish studios?

      Anyway, there's already a patch for the bugfixes and there's not really much else you can improve in it, short of redesigning the combat entirely.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Nightdive

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, you're thinking of Nightdrive

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          No no no, it's Nightcall, they're real heroes for remastering all those games, real human beings

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thought it was called Nighttbh Studios

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
        Nice 1! Ahahahahaha!!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's goldenight, morons

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >zero good remasters
    >people still want these for some reason

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      frick you and eat a dick. i want a version of VTM:B that's fricking stable out of the box without the need of an unofficial patch just to run it.

      Yeah this would be an awesome project for Nightwish. We all know the sequel is going to be stank woke trash so this in the kex engine with some choice effects added would be perfect.

      Deus Ex: Source would be the best shit ever. It’s literally perfect for the Source engine.

      >We all know the sequel is going to be stank woke trash
      that's extremely bold of you to assume it's ever going to come out.

      i'm ultimately convinced that it's never coming out and all the smaller VTM games that came out in recent years like courtiers, swansong & bloodhunt were made from assets of prior versions of the game. it legit wouldn't surprise me if the current version gets quietly cancelled as well leading to another batch of smaller games.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >frick you and eat a dick. i want a version of VTM:B that's fricking stable out of the box without the need of an unofficial patch just to run it.
        First of all, don't project your fetishes on me. Second, installing an unofficial patch isn't some arcane knowledge that's gonna give your computer a virus. Why are you zoomers scared of technology?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >installing an unofficial patch isn't some arcane knowledge that's gonna give your computer a virus.
          you completely missed the point of what i'm talking about.

          the problem isn't the patch itself or installing it but the fact that you NEED it to run the game in the first place otherwise it'll CTD on launch which is unacceptable for something you paid money for. because what if the patch didn't exist or got taken down then what?

          also see

          The unofficial patch is full of modded garbage too though, it's not faithful to the original game no matter how much wesp wants to cope about it. Modderbrain took over the unofficial patch long ago.

          if you wanna be a snobby purist about the whole thing.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the problem isn't the patch itself or installing it but the fact that you NEED it to run the game in the first place otherwise it'll CTD on launch which is unacceptable for something you paid money for
            but you're not paying money for it when you patch it, right anon? you do own the original game already from when it came out, or you just pirated it like a non-moron, right anon??

            > because what if the patch didn't exist or got taken down then what?
            the patch does exist, and it's not going anywhere. i would understand a little more if this was an obscure game and the patch was obscure, but this is one of the most popular RPGs despite selling poorly.

            The unofficial patch is full of modded garbage too though, it's not faithful to the original game no matter how much wesp wants to cope about it. Modderbrain took over the unofficial patch long ago.

            > The unofficial patch is full of modded garbage too though, it's not faithful to the original game no matter how much wesp wants to cope about it. Modderbrain took over the unofficial patch long ago.

            https://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-unofficial-patch
            >If you only want fixes you need to select the basic patch during installation

            if you're going to argue that nightdive would somehow be more faithful than the existing fan patch, take a look at all the changes they made in their quake 2 "remaster".

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >https://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-unofficial-patch
              >If you only want fixes you need to select the basic patch during installation
              This is literally a lie btw. There is still tons of modded content in VTMB's "basic" unofficial patch because Wesp has modderbrain.

              I've seen people cry about Fallout 2's unofficial patch despite the game being unplayable without it because it made minor changes to the unarmed damage formula or something, and Wesp is way worse than Killap for all sorts of shit worse than that. Someone on RPGCodex once asked Wesp to make a version of his patch without modded shit and he straight up just refused.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you want just fixes, download the True Patch.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >https://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-unofficial-patch
              >If you only want fixes you need to select the basic patch during installation
              This is literally a lie btw. There is still tons of modded content in VTMB's "basic" unofficial patch because Wesp has modderbrain.

              I've seen people cry about Fallout 2's unofficial patch despite the game being unplayable without it because it made minor changes to the unarmed damage formula or something, and Wesp is way worse than Killap for all sorts of shit worse than that. Someone on RPGCodex once asked Wesp to make a version of his patch without modded shit and he straight up just refused.

              https://www.nexusmods.com/vampirebloodlines/mods/197

              This is the mod you want for the best vanilla experience. Non of that fan fiction shit, the dude meticulously fixed actual bugs that the others didn't even see.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >if you're going to argue that nightdive would somehow be more faithful than the existing fan patch, take a look at all the changes they made in their quake 2 "remaster"
              q2 remaster didn't add unisex bathrooms all over stroggos, for one

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it was never that bad even in the day. Now loading screens, on the other hand, were absolute ass.

            Goddamnit, I'm reinstalling it...

            What's everyone's favorite mods for VtM:B?

            Aren't most of the mods outside of massive quest mods just character model changes? Never seen anything outside of those.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Remaster deez nuts.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      it can be a bit of a dance to get VtMB to run on modern OSs. and even when you do it can often run worse on new hardware than it wouldve back on some windows 98 clunker on release
      theres also all kinds of weird goofy shit thats engine related, like never saving your audio settings, being unable to lower/mix music with other sfx
      so i can understand it

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it can be a bit of a dance to get VtMB to run on modern OSs
        if you're dead-set on using the original files, maybe. but really all it takes is a no-cd (since MS now considers safedisc a rootkit), a memory awareness patch and a shader fix, 3 files in total.
        maybe a widescreen patch, but already at that point you'd be losing features (cutscenes will lose letterboxing but won't be re-framed).
        >it can often run worse on new hardware than it wouldve back on some windows 98 clunker on release
        hardly. on release it was a loading screen simulator (with the usual Source hiccups), and in some areas the character faces would explode all over the screen (GPU driver related)

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if you're dead-set on using the original files
          you mean if im deadset on not using some unofficial patch that fundamentally changes a lot of the game?
          i dont even hate most of the changes but wtf man thats simply not a patch anymore. its just a mod
          >all it takes is a no-cd (since MS now considers safedisc a rootkit), a memory awareness patch and a shader fix, 3 files in total.
          exactly like i said: it can be a bit of a dance to get it running on modern OSs/hardware. installing 3 files is trivial. actually figuring out whats wrong, then figuring out what those files are, isnt quite as simple

          >hardly
          well it ran fine for me on windows 98 back in like 2002 or 03 or whenever i first played it. worked fine on XP too. literally every OS since that ive tried to replay it on has given me enormous issues that werent present for me the first time

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you mean if im deadset on not using some unofficial patch that fundamentally changes a lot of the game?
            nah, I meant it's still possible to run it without any file replacements at all. definitely on w7 and likely on w10.
            >installing 3 files is trivial. actually figuring out whats wrong, then figuring out what those files are, isnt quite as simple
            well, there's a minimalist patch for autists & speedtrannies, with just those files: https://lurk.moe/index.php?id=vtmb-unofficial-true-patch-platinum

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >https://lurk.moe/index.php?id=vtmb-unofficial-true-patch-platinum
              >VTMB Absolutely Unofficial True Patch Platinum
              see this is what i meant in the first place. in order to actually play the game as it was you have to go ask some speedtroony discord where the link to the ACTUAL patch is. or just suss out the issues by yourself and find the files separately
              chances are most who try it for the first time will just go with the unofficial patch read: mod without even realizing its a heavily modified experience

              when compared to MOST of the other games it was contemporaneous with, getting VtMB to run nowadays is a LOT more opaque. and even when it does work, its not going to run particularly well on newer hardware that SHOULD be able to run some early 00s source game no problem

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                hey, I agree that's it's opaque and that UP muddies the waters.
                I just meant once you know the files, it's not a dance, it just works.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can play Deus Ex with mods tho they will not likely add anything like ragdoll physics.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Deus Ex 1 with modern physics
    Please no_

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Modern? Nah more like ue2. Just goofy how items fall to the ground and don’t bounce.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can make objects bounce with karma physics, most things were set to 0 because it tanked the performance

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Modern? Nah more like ue2. Just goofy how items fall to the ground and don’t bounce.

      Well I mean the physics were not realistic but they were pretty cool for the time because you could move any boxes around if you had the strength and skip whatever sections of the level. Many games let you throw someone and have the boxes fall realistically and the guy twist in realistic positions but it doesn't offer help in gameplay in anyway.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this would be an awesome project for Nightwish. We all know the sequel is going to be stank woke trash so this in the kex engine with some choice effects added would be perfect.

      Deus Ex: Source would be the best shit ever. It’s literally perfect for the Source engine.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    money 1.2

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bugfixes sure, but VtM:B still to this day has some of the best facial animations of any source engine game ever made, it's fine. It doesn't need it.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nightbrine Studios are /ourguys/ despite their problems tbh. A few shitty remasters like the Bladerunner disaster and the unfinished Blood Fresh Supply that still needs fixing aside they have a pretty good track record and I think Stephen Kick does care about the old games his company remasters. Just remember how it could always be so much fricking worse, would you rather the Turok/PowerSlave/Quake remasters or shit like Grand Theft Auto pajeet edition? System Shock Remake was also surprisingly not shit for being such a notable vaporware.

    t. genuinely not a shill but I appreciate Nightscribe, specifically Kaiser and his work with KEX

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll never forgive Duskswim for the Bladerunner remaster.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The first deus ex is really popular and one of the best games of all time so I find it pretty surprising nobody has ported it to a more updated engine like source or UE2.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      probably because the "action figure" look of deus ex is something no one's really ever been able to replicate. NO ONE wants another game to look like IW because it has insane levels of uncanny valley, and while it looked good for the time, HR's characters have visually aged really badly.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NO ONE wants another game to look like IW because it has insane levels of uncanny valley
        Yeah, this is definitely why, kek, and not because of 1 (one) ammo type for every ammo including rocket launcher and a pistol, consolebab interface, and noir cyberpunk setting being replaced by nonsense magic fairy sci-fi.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah it was mainly the what that anon said plus the cramped hallway hubs. The new setting could have been cool, I was done with dirty city streets with so many other games at the time.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought the physics for IW was cool at the time though. The graphics were really great when it released at least from what I can remember. The “action figure” look is just UE1 models.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I thought the physics for IW was cool at the time though.
          If by physics you mean ragdolling, then yes. IW has some of the best ragdolling in the history of videogames because they don't give the slightest frick as to how goofy it can come across.
          >The graphics were really great when it released at least from what I can remember.
          Everyone has soulless eyes, it's creepy.
          >The “action figure” look is just UE1 models.
          Yeah but at the same time it means they aged a lot better, because they were dated even at the time.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bugfixes
    We have it for VTMB, it's called "unofficial patch". Nightcrawler will just sell you the same game with this patch preinstalled.
    Deus Ex doesn't need any improvements, and idk how you can change physics in Thief engine.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The unofficial patch is full of modded garbage too though, it's not faithful to the original game no matter how much wesp wants to cope about it. Modderbrain took over the unofficial patch long ago.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The two games have nothing to do with each other and don't even play similarly. I rather not have some standardized shit for both.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's all i want for kotor 1 and 2, but at least with fan stuff you can fix all this shit on pc

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    kys

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daikatana is a perfect game for them. Most of the issues were technical and having too big expectatioms.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      what about shogo?, I can make a list of 100 items

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        That soul is impossible to recapture, it was too fragile

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shogo is jank. There are other obscure games like Soldier of Fortune that need love.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This might be a really stupid question but I recently hooked up my old PS2 to my old Sony 1080p LCD screen. I bought component cables on amazon and booted up Scarface which supposedly supports widescreen and progressive scan, after turning both on I still see black bars on both sides. Is there something I’m doing wrong or is this normal?

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Goddamnit, I'm reinstalling it...

    What's everyone's favorite mods for VtM:B?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huge titty mod
      Frick everyone mod
      No trannies mod
      Frickable nipples mod

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to get shit for this, but I recommend the "Plus" version of the Unofficial Patch. It greatly improves the balance of the game, in my opinion, and adds a lot of content (most of which was simply cut or unfinished by Troika in the first place). Just the soundtrack alone is a huge improvement over the vanilla game. Some of the best tracks that Rik Schaffer came up with went unused, but the Unofficial Patch utilizes most or all of them and makes the game less repetitive in that regard.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i like fanfiction

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    vtm:B has jank combat and it needs improvement. For melee hour character moves forward a lot during a combo which means you go past your target a lot and you have to fight it. The only way to get your character to done erything precisely is to go slow-mo and guns to tun it into mad payne.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No Deus Ex remake without the original dialogue completely unaltered or edited. No additions to the story either without Sheldon Pacotti at the helm. The Deus Ex remake would also be way too controversial. If it's gonna be done, the whole experience needs to be kept in tact but with a fresh coat of paint and a new engine for modern graphics. Deus Ex Revision is a masterpiece of a mod even though it runs like ass on modern hardware and I've tinkered with settings for hours.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Wesp for changing the music on the thin blood beach for no reason. Why are modders like this? At least the patch included with the GOG release of vtmb doesnt have that shit.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Deus Kex

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deus ex doesn’t need much work. Bugfixes, some improved lighting and physics. Masquarade bloodlines is more of a mess and I wouldn’t know where to start. Well onviously a whole series of butfixes. Then what? Ship it then? Do you just polish the turdier elements or overhaul them? Combat is jankier and way less precise than Deus ex.

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >remaster

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's a zoomer. All they know is remasters, remakes and phone games.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd be fine with a release on gog that just makes it run on Windows 10/11.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their Turok ports are fine and they do a lot of turd polishing.

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