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I wanted to keep talking about Warhammer and Rogue Trader and the other thread archived.
I wanted to keep talking about Warhammer and Rogue Trader and the other thread archived.
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can you be a chaos trader who trades in chaos
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/owlcat-games-on-exploring-the-koronus-expanse-and-going-full-heretic-in-warhammer-40000-rogue-trader
>Owlcat is keen to reveal more about the game in the coming months, but before I go, I have to ask if the unique approach to choice and consequence in a 40k setting will allow our Rogue Trader to make some nefarious deals with the ruinous powers. Can you go full heretic? “Can you commit full heresy?” ponders Gusev, “Yes, considering that definitions of heresy vary. I can tell you that in the trailer it mentions heresy - and that’s not just to mention it.” So, more info soon, and an official ‘Frick the emperor’ run confirmed! You heard it here first.
Sounds fun. I hope that run is a lot more difficult.
noice
The first party member they showed off is a unsanctioned psyker.
I wonder if Owlcat will have the balls to let you frick either the Eldar or the Sororitas.
Of course they will. They know half the reason people play CRPG's anymore is to frick the companions.
Yeah, but... it's 40k. Romancing anyone who isn't the lowliest of guardsmen or a civilian is a very bad idea.
that won't stop anyone who wants to stick their dick in a SoB
?
Cain fricks
Eisenhorn fricks
Eldar characters frick
What?
But humans don't frick Eldar. Because that's heresy. You also can't frick a psyker, because it's heresy. And you can't frick a SoB, because it's heresy and she's batshit insane anyway. in the end of the day most of the companions wil turn out unfrickable because it's 40k and that's heresy.
I think I like Fantasy more.
The Eldars thinks you are inferior and won't frick you, but why would you bother with something that isn't the glorious human form
The Psyker is a time bomb but who says you can't frick it
The SoB probably didn't take a vow of chastity, so it sure ain't heresy
Stop being moronic
>The SoB probably didn't take a vow of chastity, so it sure ain't heresy
But SoBs are so fricking autistic it doesn't matter anyway. She would probably set you on fire after the intercourse, because something, something Emperor.
Hot
>But humans don't frick Eldar. Because that's heresy.
It's pretty directly implied Ravenor did, at least some form of space magic psychic brain sex. Also, it's far more likely the eldar won't frick a human because they'd need a massive degradation fetish to do it.
>You also can't frick a psyker, because it's heresy
No?
>And you can't frick a SoB, because it's heresy
Oh, it's a secondary.
Read some codices and BL books
Almost all inquisitors are psykers, plenty of them have sex, What are you talking about?
You're a rogue trader so basically anything goes.
An eldar ranger is already in the cover and you can easily justify one straying from eldar's social norms.
>But humans don't frick Eldar. Because that's heresy.
*laughs in Girlyman*
Girlyman is not a human in the first place. And he didn't frick Yvrainne (? ....I actually forgot her name), but because as a Primarch, she's pick genetic human perfection she almost recognizes him as a sentient being.
He fricked her right in that eldar pussy.
>she's pick
he's peak. Frick off, autocorrect.
Oh anon, we have such sights to show you.
...have they actually fricked in-lore?
Yes.
in my lore
I see.
Hey, just so you know, I am all for interspecies romance in 40k. It's just GW are being dumb about it.
Eldar don't frick humans because they consider humans to be on par with literal monkeys. It's the kind of thing you'd only find recordings of in shady back alleys of Commoragh and usually features the human being tied down and drugged literally half to death.
It's basically bestiality to them.
Was it Rogue Trader or Dark Heresy that pretty much flat out stated that there ARE actual working and loving human-eldar relationships, somehere in the edges of the Empire, they are just rare and secret? But that's FFG, and they are less stuck up about it than GW. Because, c'mon, nerds want to frick an elder, let's not ruin their fun.
Also, Fantasy is much more lenient ehen it comes to interspecies romance with elven concubines from friendly Laurelon Forest being almost normal. That's why I like Fabtasy more. It's less moronic.
Fantasy absolutely has human-elf relationships. Teclis himself keeps a human girl or two around as 'servants'.
In 40k things are just more grimderp. Any Eldar-human relationships would only exist with Corsairs in the far flung reaches of space.
>that one time morathi did an expensive pleasure trip to the frozen shitholes north of naggaroth to woo the norscans.
> it worked so well, that malekith had a pile of roided up vikings raping and pillaging their way towards ulthuan.
>all for the small price if letting slaaneshi cultists run rampant through his domain and force feed pretty slaves to norscans.
>the chiefs even had a go at mommy.
To this say I wonder why mslekith puts up with his moronic mother.
I guess Alith Anar is right to murder every dark elf.
>In 40k things are just more grimderp.
Yeah, that's why I find Fantasy more appealing. Because Fantasy is a bunch of failable if overall well-meaning and good people going against eldritch horrors, while 40k is a bunch of boneheaded idiots essentially fricking themselves over because the story isn't yet dark enough. Because seriously, if the Imperium and the Eldar just talked it out, like the Empire and High Elves did it in Fantasy it would solve so many issues right of the bat.
What would that solve? The nids are still out to have lunch and chaos is still out there to frick your soulhole.
Chaoskeks are a footnote in comparison to Chadnids.
Thats more of a GW writing issue than anything else. Its much more insidious than tyranids.
Well, one non-moronic eldar and her gang managed to bring the Primarch back. Imagine what entire Craftworlds can do. Humans have numbers, Eldar have the tech and know-how. In exchange for protection they can show humans how to deal with psykers or how to use Webway gates, while the Imperium protects the Craftworlds and give the eldar tips on how to woo ladies.
And they picked the most boring one. Eldar have no taste, as suspected.
Get Russ out of Magnus´s warp dungeon instead, he would at least shake things up.
I mean
>Jaghatai is stuck in the Webway bike dueling Dark Eldar
>Lion is still hiding/comatose
>Corvus and Lemon both jumped into the Warp
>Sanguinus, Ferrus and Rogal are dead
>Vulkan is probably still dead
Guilliman was the only one on hand.
Wasn't Rogal's body never found? That's basically "alive the moment the plot requires him"
Id rather see Lion get his ass up and moving. They are kinda similar, sure, but at least dark angels have the Fallen stuff to dance around which makes for at least something interesting going on.
Do Ultramarines have any flaw in the geneseed or some dark moment in their history? I cant recall anything.
>Do Ultramarines have any flaw
Pride, because they're just that good
Ultras have no particular flaw but they also have no particular major strength. If you were to compare an Ultramarine biker to a White Scar biker, the White Scar would be vastly superior. If you compared an Ultramarine defensive setup to an Imperial Fist setup, ths Fist's would be vastly superior. Ultramariens can, in theory, 'do everything', but they can't do everything better then everyone.
And there was a very stark leaning towards the Ultramarines being too dependent on the Codex to get things dine properly, as shown in Space Marine.
Guilliman himself was also EXTREMELY put off by the state of the Imperium and began thinking he wouldn't be able to fix mych of anything, so much so that got into a shouting match with the Emperor.
So what you are saying is that they are boring by definition.
Quirks, flaws and strengths are where the juice is at. Its a weird creative decision to have the legion of cookiecutters be the poster boys.
Damn smurfs.
Yes anon, Ultramarines are the boring basic chapter for new players. That's kinda their gimmick. It's why they're blue.
They basically act like the patrician class of their not-Rome planet. So one "weakness" would be the fact that they do politics and most other spess mehreens don't.
Why does Lion (El Johnson) have a spanish epithet?
It stands for Elric. He is a huge Moorwiener fan.
The imperium and (CW)Eldar have had a whole host of temporary and secret alliances since forever in universe and out.
The difference is DE and corsairs shit on eldar optics for the imperium
CWE have more 40k XTREME arrogance
CWE are more desperate and
CWE have less ability to project force.
Humanity in 40k is just much more powerful, so they have to be incompetent to justify the terrible state of affairs.
In fantasy humanity isn't even unified.
But they are trying and Emperor Karl Franz is a chad. And Fantasy actually has characters who are reasonable and see the bigger picture, like Franz, Finubar, Teclis, Naestra (who is unfortunatelly countered by her moronic sister) or Allarielle and Queen Whatsherface from Laurelorn. In 40k there is pretty much only Girlyman who is not moronic and there is only so much he could do against the stupidity of everyone else.
Corsairs and Exodites seem like it could be possible just not really craftworld eldar
Anon Exodites literally never leave their planets. They're the Wood Elf stand-ins, and even then they're just a fluff faction that doesn't even have a tabletop army.
Rangers are specifically CWE who leave their Craftworlds to go on adventures and odd-jobs when they have too much pent up emotion.
Come to think of it, 40k RPG needs an equivalent of Laurelorn Forest, aka, "here are the playable elves who are actually not moronic and play nice with human PCs, so you don't sit in conflict ball the whole session". I guess Yvrainne's gang was supposed to be that, but it didn't work out.
There was not enough barefoot artwork of yvraine hence the level of popularity was not high
For me it was her stupid hairdo that killed my boner.
>I guess Yvrainne's gang was supposed to be that, but it didn't work out.
The entire Ynnead situation got shut down completely and the Ynnari are effectively a dead 'faction'. It's almost comedic how fricking quickly GW dropped their storyline as soon as the management shift happened, because the way it ended the Ynnari fricked up both the Eldar and the Dark Eldar and ended up helping the Imperium, and nkw Ynnead can never be ckmpleted anyway so it the entire Eldar side of things was completely pointless.
Because we can't have nice things in 40k, can we?
It was more because Ynneas being complete would wipe out a minor subfaction and would gut Slaanesh pitebtially out of the setting.
>and would gut Slaanesh pitebtially out of the setting
Oh no. How horrible.
Like, Cadia got blown up. That was already a big status quo shakeup. Slaanesh getting fricked over in response would just be fair.
Dark Heresy has an oblique reference to an old /tg/ story about an eldar/human couple, but I don't remember them ever flat out stating that it's a thing.
Yes, that story has only one canon ending.
>Because that's heresy.
So what? Are you gonna cry and complain when I plow that hottie?
>plowin eldar dicky
Now we talking
No, I am going to laugh when that hottie bisects you, monk-heigh.
Seriously though, I have no idea why GW is so against interspecies romances.
Eldar are mentally and emotionally fricked up beyond repair, in large part because they do it to themselves.
Eldar life (at least CW Eldar) absolutely sucks and they constantly have to shift their priorities or they'll suffer identity death. Being an Exarch is a genuinely horrifying experience and most are looked at with just as much pity as admiration.
Exactly. Need immediate rape correction by BHC
Anon that would just make things worse.
So who do you think this confirmed eldar companion is going to be? A corsair? Exodite? Ranger?
>Corsair
Possible but unlikely.
>Exodite
0% chance. They don't leave their planets and have Biel-Tan tier disdain for humans.
>Ranger
Most likely choice. Gives them the most room to work with and the main art they've shown has her with a Long Rifle.
>You also can't frick a psyker, because it's heresy. And you can't frick a SoB, because it's heresy and she's batshit insane anyway.
wrong and wrong
fricking lorelet moron kys
The SoB sure.
The Eldar shouldn't even consider it.
Eversor companion when
Cone to think of it, having a companion who communicates in screeches and nuclear explosions would be interesting.
>wryyy intensifies
>Eversors are kept in a stasis pod until they are needed
>get implanted with their target data before getting transported in the general vicinity of the target
>wake up in a drug fueled rage, blasting towards their goal, killing everything and, even if they kill their target, go until death and or blow the frick up
great companion you got there
I mean, the idea of a "broken" Eversor with faulty ptogramming, where you have to pretty much defuse the tykebomb would be interesting. I imagine something like Ignus from Torment or Jack from Mass Effect, only more crazy.
Why not have any other assasin at that point, since any other (except Culexus) would be more helpful/make more sense.
This is the first time I’ve heard anything about this game. Love me some more warhammer
I would've preferred it to be based on Dark Heresy, but if this allows us to frick an eldar waifu, I guess I'll take it.
Do we have an idea of the storyline?
The trailer seems to imply the rogue trader (You) pick up the trail of his mother, presumably making deals along the way and that the plot will feature Necrons
>Necrons
>Chaos
>Dark Eldar
We've almost got the entire gang together
Well, it's the first 40k cRPG. We need to check off all the boxes.
Good it's better than the fricking
>it's orks
>lol no its chaos
Shit relic pulled 7 times.
That's some good shit. I've not even played Pathfinder 2 yet, so I've got time to burn.
Probably same old magical forest that were pathfinder games. Springl some female fanfic and you are golden.
I hope the kleptomaniac is in the game.
>secret mission
>you think you will get an artifact with a huge payout attached
>suddenly Trazyn comes in, picks up the artifact and leaves
>you need some super rare archeotech for plot reasons
>Only exists in Trazyn's collection
>Orikan works in the background to let you steal it just to frick with him
>it was actually a plan that Trazyn hatched centuries ago
Was the effeminate black psyker pic I saw here legit or someone trolling?
https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/status/1539994865827815426
see for yourself
No, that's legit. And that's a "she". I can almost guarantee that's going to be a love interest as well, because lorewise it's the most probable.
this?
https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/status/1539994865827815426
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
YOU GUYS TOLD ME OWLCAT WAS STRONGARMED BY PAIZO TO INCLUDE USED gayS AND SHIT
Oh look who it is, 30 posts in right on time to shit up the thread.
What classes theres gonna be?
I assuming
>psyker
>techpriest
>space marine
Commisar has been confirmed.
BLAM
>Comissar comes with a small retinue of fodder
>they replenish whenevere you go back to your ship
>BLAM gives everyone in the group a buff for the rest of the combat
Owlcat, make it happen
Space marine and techpriest are not happening for MC but there's bound to be power armor at some point and maybe some bionics too
>no techpriest for MC
lame.
You are a rogue trader, arent you? You are just going to be John McMan, with the benefit of decent entourage and better than regular equipment.
Does anyone have a pdf of the rules they are going to be using? I would like to see how good is the system.
...I don't think I can upload a 114 MB PDF as an attachment.
That big? Can you at least tell me the name? Ill find it somewhere.
Anon it's called Rogue Trader.
And DnD is called DnD. Doesnt help very much in getting specific rules and edition.
This one?
Yup. There is actually only one edition of Rogue Trader, so you have nothing to worry about.
Cool, thanks. Although that doesnt sound like a very successful system then.
RT itself has a bunch of splats and there are 6 separate lines of 40k games that all run more or less the same underlying system.
It's nowhere near DnD popularity but it did alright before it got killed when FFG lost the license.
i would imagine overlap between dnd fans and w40k isn't that big
which isn't necessarily something bad, just look at 4th and 5th edition
Well... It's a part of a bigger whole. It has a metric frickton of additional books, plus similarly to the Star Wars RPG from the same dev, Rogue Trader is just of five splatbooks. The other are: Dark Heresy (Inquisition - two editions), Only War (Imperial Guardsmen), Black Crusade (CHAOS!!!!), Deathwatch (Space Marines). They are all mostly compatible. In the end of the day, you have A LOT of 40k RPG books based on this system.
It's prettt sucessful, the ruleset itself has 5 different RPG's covering a different aspect of the imperium (plus a second edition for one of them) and each with half a dozen different splatbooks.
There's literally only one edition.
It's not guaranteed but I don't see why it can't be a possibility, Explorators are one of the playable classes in the tabletop.
Wouldn't half of the classes don't make sense because they are tied to a faction?
My guess would be the same classes as the tabletop, except maybe Navigator
What classes are there in tabletop? i've only played Dark Heresy.
You get the Rogue Trader (Social skill and melee), Arch Militaint (Good at everything combat), Astropath (Psyker, as likely to blow up his allies as his enemies), Seneshl (Finance and information specialist, gardbage in a fight but your saviour out of one), Explorator (Tech priest, augments out the ass), Navigator (Inbred noble who navigates the warp and kills people with his third eye), Void master (In charge of piloting the ship and keeping it falling apart, also good at ground vehicles) and the Missionary (Gets faith abilities which counter demonic bullshit and give minor buffs to the party).
They might just lock the PC into being rogue trader, but navigator is the only one I think would bring particular lore issues if the rogue trader from the trailor is supposed to be your mother. Or they might just drop the classes altogether and let you freely pick your talents like the later systems.
there was a navigator in the art they showed for the game right
Yeah, the bluish-skinned lady in the background of
What is this game going to be exactly? I'm a stranger to Owlcat games
>Rogue Trader, I... Say no more. Let the Emperor know of our love. He sees all. Maybe he... wills it?
CRPG
It's a woof. But ignoring the leak that said GW didn't allow a marine romance, he sure wouldn't have any doubt about that.
Turn based CRPG with heavy leaning on pen and paper rules
turn based CRPG
CRPG? What's the C for?
Computer______
Computer.
As opposed to console.
DON'T TOUCH MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Computer Role Playing Game, it is referring to games that are lifted or inspired by pen and paper RPGs like D&D or pathfinder.
Do we know the approximate release date for this game? IIRC, the alpha is supposed to be released this Fall?
I wonder if Owlcat is going to be stupid enough to release the entire game script in their alpha files, so that we know the entire story months before it releases? Ah, those were the good times.
>Do we know the approximate release date for this game?
>implying it will ever release
>implying they wont get glassed as Russia will be stupid enough to kick off a conflict with NATO
Of course the first good 40k RPG game will get stopped by no less than WW3, 40k is truly a cursed IP for games.
I think Owlcat identify a Cyprians now, so they are fine.
The dummy office in tge Cyprus
But they are still working in Moscow
It'll have its alpha for the backers long before we ever get even the hint of a date on that.
Speaking of backing, tried to do that since I got a lot of milage pirating the one for WOTR and nearly got my card blocked for it.
how does Warhammer weapons even work in pnp rules?
everything is so ridiculous it should oneshot everything
>everything is so ridiculous it should oneshot everything
nah most weapon are super shit.
aren't bolters basically grenade launchers that just look like machine guns
Yeah, but most regular people can't use bolters, because they are too big and the kickback would rip away your arm. You either need to be a SM or you need some state if the art power armor (like SoB) to work the bolter more or less properly.
Boltguns are an option for quite a few regular human models on TT.
Lorewise there's sometimes a distinction made between human-scale bolters and spessmarine/vehicle versions but it's inconsistent.
Yeah, kinda like a magazine fed RPG launcher.
The thing is, when you get to the area of that being the standard weapon, the targets you shoot are either without number or have very good armor.
It gets to be rocket tag pretty quickly, yeh.
Offensive ability outstrips defensive easily, even power armoured enemies can get dumped on in a single round and the same thing can happen to you if you get unlucky.
>how does Warhammer weapons even work in pnp rules?
With lots of flowery violence.
Oh great more owlcat pozzed gay shit and turbo shilling by their shit fricking Russian marketing company.
Why can't you just make good games instead of these scams, you'll make more money that way I promise you.
theres zero chance for an orc companion right?
orcs here are just fungus or something
Nah, Freebooterz (pirate orkz) are a thing and they sometimes do merc jobs for guns they can use to kill the person that hired them once they have all the gunz.
Ork mercenaries are playable characters in the TTRPG but there's no telling whether any will end up in game.
There is a pretty good chance for an ork companion, sctuslly. Some ork freebootaz are just mercs and it's not unheard of for Rogue Traders to hire them. Granted, it's fricking dangerous, because da orks a' barmy gitz, but it's possible. It's flat out an option in the RT tabletop.
Are Blood Ravens still a thing, or were they stolen by Trazyn?
>company that made gay orc c.uckold sex, dyke Black person paladins, and has characters go on reddit rants about gender stereotypes makes 40k RPG
>40k its an extremely masculine setting, all the major characters are male, its even lore that women can't do shit because they are weak and inferior
>worried owlshart will pozz up 40k but optimistic that maybe GW will reign them in
>nope, one of the first characters they unveil is literally an effeminate gay Black person troony
Atheism and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race.
Go back to your homosexual containment board, you mentally ill Black person.
homie its a video game
>anon so addicted to outrage he starts making things up
Very sad
Black women are best inclusivity totem, you get two for the price of one.
>extremely hyped for that spacehulk FPS
>it ran like absolute shit
I hate GW so goddam much.
Space Hulk was lame because it was a multiplayer only worse version of Vermintide. You haven't missed much.
I had to refund it when it came out, after the tutorial the game would freak the frick out for me, stuck loading, messed up graphics and all sorts.
Do you mean Deathwing? Get a better toaster, ran fine for me.
The issue was more that it wasnt that good. Looked gorgeous though, still unsurpassed 40k visuals. My MP Chaplain looks absolutely fricking lethal.
>still unsurpassed 40k visuals
This. Streum autists are only one who make W40k visuals as they should look. Shame that the games are terrible jank. Still loved both Deathwing and Necromunda.
Not just the performance, the general handling of the game was clunky and awful. I also especially hated how bolts, despite being rapid fire mini-RPG's, were treated like .22LR.
GW have such an incredible IP and they constantly cheap out and make shit videogames, or cheap out and make shit media beyond the BL books. I have no doubt they'll put their moron fingers all over the next project from the genuis who made "Astartes" and turn it to shit.
I mean, Mechanicus was good.
Sure, bolters are crap in all of 40k though. Just like Terminator armor is made of paper. Inconsistency dogs the setting from day one.
I spend a lot of time with a flamer or plasma canon when purging in coop with friends. The singleplayer campaign was a nightmare because brother Barachiel is a moron and healing is limited.
>nothing but a trailer
Owlcat has nothing. The trailer is to secure funding for them to make the game via publisher investment and preorders.
Someone should make an RT RPG, as Priestly intended, but in Owlcat's hands the Space Wolf and mustache guy will both be gay while the women are feminists.
>Gay Space Wolf
Anon there's no need to be redundant.
The Tyrant Star plotline of the 40k rpg would translate great to a game.
Before furries ruined everything animal-adjacent, werewolves were cool.