>FO:NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FO3
I've tried to play fo3 multiple times but every time I get to Megaton I drop it. Megatons insane narrative dissonance triggers me every time
no I can't turn my elite giga brain off, new vegas has refined my intellect to a razor sharp edge, I simply can't dismiss the narrative dissonance of megaton
>Seems like such a weird thing to get hung up over. You can’t just enjoy it as a piece of pulp camp?
no I can't turn my elite giga brain off, new vegas has refined my intellect to a razor sharp edge, I simply can't dismiss the narrative dissonance of megaton
>I simply can't dismiss the narrative dissonance of megaton
To me, it's how they try to have it both ways; they point out how everything has a detailed explanation, but if you bring up how the explanation doesn't make any sense, they call you autistic.
to be fair most people cant run the damn thing
in germany they never patched the fricking windows live thing and i cant fricking play the game, i imagine many others have the same issue in europe
Fallout 4 is a busted game. It is so broken that it never should have shipped, and modders still have not fixed it to successfully to this day. >horrible stuttering inherent to the game >long loading screens tied to framerate >constant crashes
And this is not to mention all of the mediocrity in other departments. The shit story, the boring dialogue, the lack of choices, the voiced protagonist, the world polluted with copious amounts of repetitive content. I truly do not understand what normies see in the game. Nothing will beat FNV/TTW with mods.
For me I don't even care about that. Poorgays gonna poor and all. It is the unremovable stutter, inability for modders to unlock the framerate without issue, the ridiculous load times, and the crashes in and around the downtown area. It is simply fricked in a way that FO3 and NV are not.
That looks really fricking good, and an accurate realisation of the concept art.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you CANNOT be serious
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Explain how it’s not a good representation of retrofuturism combined with post-apocalyptic elements.
HH does suck but Dead Money, OWB and Lonesome Road are all easily better than the Fallout 3 DLC's. The only one I remember enjoying on that was The Pitt
The only outright bad FO3 DLC is Zeta. Anchorage is okay and also gives you some of the best gear in the game as a reward, The Pitt and Point Lookout are phenomenal, and Broken Steel is a good expansion on the main quest and core mechanics.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Desert is a better setting for Fallout, NV is true to the Classics. DC makes no sense and its "retrofuturism" is completely moronic to the point an entire town just feasts on pre-war canned foods. 3 doesn't make any sense.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
in the previous fallout games they had established societies, that sure were shaky but worked and made sense.
in fallout 3 you have constant anarchy and pointless warfare, it always feels like society hasnt progressed at all from the bombs and the only people who actually do anything are the enclave and the BOS without any local working institutions.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
My headcanon has always been that the east coast was uninhabitable for much longer, like the Glow in California, and then also had way worse problems with raider factions due to a higher number of feral ghouls everywhere. So you ended up with places like Paradise Falls being the largest trader hubs rather than peaceful communities like Shady Sands. Only way it makes even a tiny bit of sense.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
okay but that literally ruins an entire area unnecessarily and it's just unfun
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Somehow you can't even enslave everyone with Mesmetron, what's the fricking point of being a slaver?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can enslave most people in the game. It’s mostly just major quest characters who you can’t, and even then the mes kills them.
>what’s the point of being a slaver?
It pays well + roleplaying.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It’s mostly just major quest characters who you can’t
And why can't I?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I’m not defending that decision, I’m just saying that being a slaver isn’t pointless, since you can still enslave the vast majority of npcs in the game.
I'm looking at NV right now and I wouldn't exactly call its pallette "bright"
and it's a dusty desert I can't imagine any other haze but brown working
the brightest the pallette gets in the game would be Zion Cayon and I do have to say, looks pretty dang good
NV is bright compared to 3. The difference is mostly atmospheric anyway. NV goes for a spaghetti western inspired vibe, while 3 goes for a more melancholic and creepy vibe. Both work in their own way and it comes down to preference.
One small thing about 3’s atmosphere I’ll say is that the abundance of greens and blues feel quite clever considering that they’re the colours of radiation and water— Too things that are tied heavily into the game’s narrative and themes.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't disagree and think Bethesda's moronic when it comes to Fallout worldbuilding, but that's just how I rationalize it to make myself find Fallout 3 and 4 playable at all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah if you wanna have fun you gotta make it make sense... something the developers should do for you not the other way around but oh well
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Does having fun need to make 100% sense though? Fallout is an inherently campy and dumb series.
Besides, 3 has better world building than most give it credit for. Sure, there aren’t crop fields everywhere, but there’s trade routes, hunters and territories where certain types of wild life are more common.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
not everything has to make sense but just the minimum really
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>not everything has to make sense
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Besides, 3 has better world building than most give it credit for. Sure, there aren’t crop fields everywhere, but there’s trade routes, hunters and territories where certain types of wild life are more common.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I liked it
most people itt are into worldbuilding lore nerd shit but i liked the more fairytale take on fallout, not that they did a great job with it but I can enjoy what little they did
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They sustain themselves off of cave moss. Did you miss that side quest?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
All DLCs for 3 is dogshit, maybe expect PL which is just ok (not writing-wise though, of course), The Pitt's premise and plot are absolutely fricking moronic, and Broken Steel just adds more combat encounters to a game that has the worst gunplay imaginable. Zeta is just lesser Halo that makes space boring, and Anchorage is yet another piece of shit that adds more combat to the game (but this time you have to fight with dogshit weapons you don't even get to choose instead, also, 0 roleplaying present, because we have to be as CoD as possible). Don't even forget the worst final ever.
>posts a casual screenshot that utterly mogs FNV
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>mogs
yes saar me love cow puke screen color
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bastard shit, you literally posted a screenshot which is greater looking than any typical sight in FNV now you're pretending like that didn't just happen. And speaking of shit that is the atmosphere of FNV. Everything is covered in a brown haze.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
that’s just from you rubbing your shit covered hands all over your monitor you stupid ducking indian
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ducking? And what I say is this, it is what you are doing when hindiCHAD walks up to your girlfriend? Maybe if you had real taste you might have some balls too, but you like FNV Fallout Neo Vag so you won't be doing either.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i agree the colour pallet is also kinda limited but you have multiple instances where it changes drammatically, and even then the characters dont look green like in fricking fallout 3.
in fallout 3 everything looks greenish even when it's not supposed to happen, it is true that NV has a lot of brown but things which are not supposed to be brown arent.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Bastard shit
Oh my God you really are Indian kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Goodmorning saaar
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>le green... it's so le good
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
Bastard shit, you literally posted a screenshot which is greater looking than any typical sight in FNV now you're pretending like that didn't just happen. And speaking of shit that is the atmosphere of FNV. Everything is covered in a brown haze.
now that I'm looking at it again, was Fallout 3 always this green and gray?
people really called New Vegas' filter too brown when compared to this and that's surprising because god DAMN F3 looks more washed out and dull than I remember
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Washed out and grimy is the aesthetic 3 is going for. If anything, I think it’s made the game visually age better than NV, since NV bright colour palate exposed the imperfections in the character models and assets more.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm looking at NV right now and I wouldn't exactly call its pallette "bright"
and it's a dusty desert I can't imagine any other haze but brown working
the brightest the pallette gets in the game would be Zion Cayon and I do have to say, looks pretty dang good
I can actually frickign recognize that river becaus eit's where I tested the GECK to mod stuff and create stuff that threw so much grenades the sky would turn into the shadow of mordor
it's <when i founjd out several expklosion near each other will morph into one bigger explosion and also that effects scale so that many nukes would make a huge splash in the river that would have pretty much emptied it if there was fluid physics
the river place looks sovlfvl as fvck thovgheverbeit, try again
Obsiditrannies can't cope with people saying New Vegas has flaws. It's what makes pointing them out and getting a slew of gibbering responses so entertaining, you can tell they're really fricking mad.
NV has flaws you idiot fallout 3 just has more, nobody says NV is "le best ever thing to ever best" it's just that bethesda fanboys have their eyes covered by Todd Howard's shit
>world design
Methinks you're an underage moron who enjoys moronic shit like Megaton and Little Lamplight and defends them unironically. You probably also defend copy-pasted metros, moronic settlements that make no sense, and 0-dimensional characters that occupy them. >art direction
le green lmao. >atmosphere
kek
>Methinks you're an underage moron who enjoys moronic shit like Megaton
So you're that troon who comes to these threads to make obvious Megaton hateposts.
>slightly better gunplay
Couldn't tell a difference honestly. They're two of the clunkiest shooters of that time. I don't think anyone would have played them without VATS.
I don't care which is better, you aim when you have a scope or when your AP is gone. I'm telling you had those games not come with VATS people would've hated it.
>as a NV fan fallout 3's DLCs are better
3's DLCs suck ass, have no relations to the game and are terribly written. Mothership Zeta is the worst DLC ever created, right next to Anchorage. Broken Steel retcons the ending and adds more terrible combat sections and radiant quests. The Pitt is too short and only holds up thanks to its environment, the whole story is just nonsensical (just like the rest of 3), only Point Lookout is ok.
HH does suck but Dead Money, OWB and Lonesome Road are all easily better than the Fallout 3 DLC's. The only one I remember enjoying on that was The Pitt
Honestly, just the same as they've already got but where 90+% of the content isn't just the area's main quest so it doesn't feel so self contained/one note (lonesome road aside because I don't think there's any saving that one)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Honest Hearts and OWB fit that bill although Avellone was let a bit too far off his leash for the latter but both have decent sized non-linear maps with some side content, the former having some of the best writing in the series
ironsights are a completely unnecessary addition and those ugly as ADS models don't improve the gunplay at all. I'm convinced New Vegas babies are all 7th gen gays since they're so adamant about an action rpg needing ironsights when regular shooters never needed them to begin with
Iron sights do make aiming “feel” better, but I agree it wasn’t a 100% necessary addition. Honestly, NV’s biggest gameplay problem is that it nerfs VATS to near uselessness (since aiming is more accurate at low levels and VATS doesn’t give you i-frames anymore).
Also, this might just me, but DT seems to make the enemies in NV way more spongy than 3’s enemies. 3’s enemies on really became sponges if you either cranked up the difficulty or you built a non-combat character.
What does ADS even add? It's also jarring in FNV when some weapons have actual sights but a third of them still use the zoom, it's be better if it was all or none
It adds a placebo of the shooting feeling better. Plus, it was 2010, so ADS was becoming an industry standard at that point (which it wasn’t when FO3 was in development).
It is just placebo though. In 3, zooming is just as accurate as NV’s ADS.
Is this whole 'Fallout 3 is the best Fallout game and NV is shit' narrative I'm seeing lately some sort of discord campaign by Bethesda fanboys or something? For the past 10 years this board has done nothing but wank over New Vegas and shit on the Bethesda fallouts
>fallout movie releases. >Ganker suddenly loves todd Howard and fallout 3.
discord troons are shilling 24/7 for fallout nonstop, but most importantly they arent even getting paid for it.
its either a desperate, and I mean DESPERATE attempt to get people talking about the franchise and watch that pile of steaming shit they call a show or just simple (You) farming. Of course Ganker likes NV
Ganker is filled with people that want to argue more than anything else. I would bet that most of the people saying Fallout 3 is better truly don't think so or haven't played either game recently and are just going off faulty memories and nostalgia. New Vegas has improved animations, gunplay, weapon variety, and textures. It has well-developed factions, well-written nonlinear quests, and multiple branching endings. The DLC is all rated much higher than Fallout 3's, and have interconnected stories with Ulysses, Father Elijah, and Christine in addition to their individual narratives.
Fallout New Vegas was an improvement over Fallout 3 in basically every single way, and that's if you just consider them stand-alone games and don't include the fact that New Vegas includes much more connection to the original games whereas Fallout 3 is almost completely disconnected from Fallout 1 and 2. The main reason Fallout New Vegas received worse review scores, if you go back and look at them, is almost entirely because it was considered a "rehash" of Fallout 3. At its core, it's the same engine and reuses a lot of assets. Reviewers see that and immediately mark it down. Most still actually considered the rest of the game superior to Fallout 3. It's why Bethesda always includes major engine improvements in their flagship titles. Look at the graphical and stability jumps between Morrowind and Oblivion, Oblivion to Skyrim, or Fallout 3 to 4.
>The main reason Fallout New Vegas received worse review scores, if you go back and look at them, is almost entirely because it was considered a "rehash" of Fallout 3. At its core, it's the same engine and reuses a lot of assets.
No it was a buggy mess that crashed constantly.
the pendulum swung one way too hard now its swinging back, people are looking back at FO3 with another mindset and some guys are trolling a bit too
contrarian board i guess
The entire pendulum shift can be traced back to MrBTongue’s “Shandification of Fallout” video essay. He’s the one who coined the “what do they eat?” argument afterall. 2013-2017 was basically the peak of Fallout 3 hate.
>FO2 GECK: briefcase with some seeds, basic matter replicator and holodisks with survival info. >FO3 GECK: a fricking bomb for some reason. >bethesdrones: wow so le cool, big boomb haha, frick lore consistency and shit xD
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It wasn’t a fricking bomb, moron. In FO3, activating it would start landscaping immediately. By being in ground zero of it, underground, you’re basically an ant in a coke bottle that’s being stuffed with mentos.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Forgot when you ask the President in FO2, he said that there was always a "catch" in every vault, so this is why vault 13 opened way later than the rest of them. The water chip issue was a "happy accident". Perhaps that GECK suitcase was the "catch" in another vault? Just saying, I have played both FO2 and FO3 ages ago and I dont remember the details
No, the shilling actually comes from the New vegas devs, pretending NV is so much better because muh better writing.
Then people actually fricking played Fo3 and realized its pretty good as well despite having "worse writing" (several quests are quite decent ecven is not always fully realized) because they get semi blown away by how good the world is, and as good people with a sovl, they come to reesetablish the truth, since the new vegas devs, to make shekels and sell more of their game, have shit on FO3 for years
Man I sure love Fallout. I wonder what's going on in this generic spam Fallout thread #10000.
Oh... On second thought I'll just be a Fallout fan by myself.
i think he's trolling but these threads are such a clusterfrick of trolls trying to own the FNV hugboxers, tourists and braindead culture warrior who knows
The NV to trans pipeline is an observable phenomenon though. To the point where the trans community embraces it.
Personally, I think it’s because NV is arguably the most autistic game in the franchise (since it has a huge emphasis on pseudo-realism and politics), and there’s a huge overlap between autism and troonyism.
Plus, NV is the only game in the series where you can make a gay character.
>Fawkes, grab that GECK >OK
… >Fawkes, flip that switch right over there >I’m sorry, my companion. This is the end of the game. Your destiny ends here. I would never rob you of that.
Bethesda was so, so fricking moronic for not only making this guy immune to radiation, but also making him mandatory to pick up alongside the main questline in the first place. God, frick Bethesda.
>but also making him mandatory
He’s not mandatory. You can get the GECK yourself if you have high enough radiation resistance:
%3D
I also see what they were going for with the ending. The whole story is a Biblical allegory, so they wanted to give the player a choice as to whether they wanted to make that sacrifice. They could have set it up better, but I see what they were going for.
Yup, Yup!
Fallout New Vegas? Treats its world like a theme park while the better game CHADout 3 treats its world as a living breathing world. CHADout 3 was ahead of its time while TROONout New DILATOR used CHADout's hard work to get where they are at. You can't even have TROONout New DILATOR without CHADout's hard work.
Some of you guys give FO3 way more hate than it deserves. It was the first ever attempt at a 3D open world Fallout game and was pretty solid.
It also has one of the best evil playthroughs imo
Something I find interesting about Bethesda games in general is that at the time of their release they were considered absolutely mindblowing and revolutionary (and they honestly were for their time), but nowadays, the general public considers the whole Bethesda format outdated.
The lukewarm reception of Starfield stands out to me as an example of this. I feel like if it came out in like 2007-8, it would be praised much more heavily, since it’s not massively different from the usual Bethesda game fair.
What changed that turned Bethesda from a Rockstar level company that could do no wrong in the eyes of the general gaming public to a laughing stock?
> What changed that turned Bethesda from a Rockstar level company that could do no wrong in the eyes of the general gaming public to a laughing stock?
You just said it yourself? If Starfield was released in 2007 it would be considered a good game, yeah. It’s 20-fricking-24 now, and they’re using the same antiquated engine.
Fallout 4 wasn’t the smoothest reception, either. 76 sealed the deal that Bethesda had lost the plot.
They’re a laughing stock because their aging engine just lends itself to more and more bugs, and somehow it’s become such an unstable shitshow that even normalgays would rather not fellate them and admit Starfield blows.
True, but the actual appeal of the Bethesda formula hasn’t changed. “Go anywhere, do anything, and have every environment be detailed and highly interactable” is something Bethesda have still cornered the market on. You’d think now would be the prime time to release a “Bethesda killer” game, but no one has done it.
it's not because back then it had somewhat of a level of polish and being the first kinda open world FPS thingy but with the advent of all these open world games, the lower quality aspects of the gaùmes like gunplay, AI, sometimes even music, and especially system design (at which they are pretty shit and got away with for several games now (obliviobn,n skyrim, fallout 3 etc, in terms of talents / economy, buff debuffs etc) are less forgiven, now we got witcher 3 assasqisn screed far cry whatever, so the standard has increased and bethesda seems always to be a train late to the party, and catering to casuals and treating them like idiot too much
>and they’re using the same antiquated engine.
Engine memes always make me laugh because it shows how little people understand about how engines work. >Fallout 4 wasn’t the smoothest reception, either. 76 sealed the deal that Bethesda had lost the plot.
Fallout 4 was critically acclaimed, and 76 has had so many updates that most people agree its a pretty good game now. >They’re a laughing stock because their aging engine just lends itself to more and more bugs, and somehow it’s become such an unstable shitshow that even normalgays would rather not fellate them and admit Starfield blows.
Except starfield was praised for having significantly less bugs compared to past Bethesda games, and the issues with it had nothing to do with the engine.
I have a serious question here. Does it “count” if you play these games on console? I enjoy Fallout and played 3 and NV on PS3 when they first came out. I started replaying them on Series X. But a lot of people say it’s not a genuine experience because it’s not on PC and with mods.
Fallout 3 was better in terms of polish (which is hilarious) and had the better setting. NV had better auxiliary stuff like different dialog if you were moronic, better factions, and characters.
If you played the game as 'point a direction and go' while ignoring the overarching quests and such? F3 was better.
That moment is ironically what turned Fallout from a niche series into a blockbuster franchise. That moment still hasn’t lost its impact all these years later. It’s why Bethesda has spent decades trying to recapture it in every Fallout game they make.
3 did it with much more artistry. The music slowly swelling as the wasteland became more visible, the Vault being positioned in such a way that you see DC in the distance. Much more thought at care was put into the reveal of the vista, whereas 4 starts you in the top left corner of the map with very few landmarks to see.
Ganker is a 3 site always was NV sisters trying to rewrite history is nothing new. >go here >do this >congratulations quest completed item received
Fallout NV and 4 summarized
Fallout 3 was a flash in the pan that was forgotten after 2 years and even during its brief time in the limelight it was made fun of and called Oblivion with guns by real Fallout fans.
3 and NV are basically the same games, hell NV has more bugs and is less stable than 3. It has nothing to do with how new it is. It's just nobody gives a single frick about 3 anymore. No mods, no genuine discussion, nothing.
>an obscure blog post is representative of mainstream opinion
The argument isn’t that FO3 didn’t have haters, the argument is that those haters were in the minority. Fallout was literally made relevant thanks to 3.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
now that is revisionist consolegay history. Fallout was a massively succesful computer game, why did you think Bethesda went to such trouble in order to acquire the license and kill off the Fallout MMORPG that was being produced by Interplay at the time, instead of making their own post-apocalyptic franchise?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yet 3 sold more than any other game in the series up until that point, and received widespread critical acclaim.
I think you’re also forgetting the damage BoS did to the brand.
Maybe but 3's DLCs alone were still better than the entirety of NV + its DLCs plus NVs writing is cartoony and moronic with the grandma mutant and shit also you smell like cheesy mildew
>Maybe but 3's DLCs alone were still better than the entirety of NV + its DLCs plus NVs writing is cartoony and moronic with the grandma mutant and shit also you smell like cheesy mildew
But enough about troonout 3.
>Maybe but 3's DLCs alone were still better than the entirety of NV + its DLCs plus NVs writing is cartoony and moronic with the grandma mutant and shit also you smell like cheesy mildew
Words like this you can only hear in contrarian Ganker.
FNV was only fun for getting the war club that knocks people around and bludgeoning things and the strip was way too small fight me. The bowie knife was juicy but that's it, literally two DLC items. The game fricks your save if you save in gaynuis's little stupid Indian camp too so defend that Obsididrone
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>more inane horseshit
This bait doesn't work anymore sirs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wrecked hahahha enjoy fornite fallout mcdonalds tv show in 14 years there will never be another fallout 3 or anything good because of (You)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>never be another fallout 3
Thank fricking God. We need less garbage (not that Bethesda could make anything but that).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the less garbage face of Fallout when
Suck on this one, Nintendo.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they used the weird lewis gun design
oh for frick sake
3 has a decent amount of skill checks. Not as many as NV, but more than you’d think.
Also, 3’s side quests tend to have more branching paths, whereas the choice in NV comes from what side quests you take rather than what you do within those side quests.
Because it's more fun to post about a game being a complete piece of shit that killed your wife and fricked your dog and a game that is the best game ever than post about a flawed game and a game that improved on it a bit
bros I just want to play a simple FO4 playthru again with maybe better weather and game fixes.. but everytime I start modding I'm tempted to install coomer shit like more female settlers, cbbe, and other coomer shit... then I get tired and stop doing anything at all... HELP
Currently replaying FO3, and while I enjoy it, the actual gameplay is rough at points. I get that it’s an RPG, but it really feels like you really aren’t able to fight effectively until you get some better weapons. I feel it’s more fun on lower difficulties since you can drop enemies faster.
Fallout threads are the only things that piss me the frick off. Imagine being so fricking stupid that you genuinely think FO3 is better than New Vegas. What fricking planet do you have to live on to be that fricking delusional?
Gunplay is abysmally fricking bad, and I'm tired of filling my inventory full of dog shit weapons just to keep ONE weapon at an acceptable durability >cant craft more ammo without playing the DLC >zero unique weapons
Just because they don’t use different models doesn’t make them not unique weapons. The unique weapons in 3 have different stats and status effects over their base variants, and are worth getting as a result.
I loved how dark the indoor areas of 3 were. It made the pipboy light pretty useful and it also leaned into the fact that the stealth system is based on light and shadow.
In what year did everyone decide fallout 3 was the spawn of satan made from pure evil, and New Vegas was some impeccable angel game perfect in every way and that any flaws with it was Bethesda's fault)?
The whole point of replacing humans with mutants, in Master's mind, was to create a stable, homogeneous society where everyone is equal and also everyone is a radiation resistant gigachad.
The necessity to leave some pure humans as a breeding stock is a complete antithesis to this idea. Thus, Master blowed himself up.
But why aren't Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 fans not using this boost in popularity that the TV show got them to you know, discuss Fallout 3 and Fallout 4? Prior to this tv show you were lucky to get one of those threads a week on Ganker.
Why are you wasting this opportunity to instead, talk about New Vegas (which has seen daily threads since I can remember)?
>talk about Fallout 3 and Fallout 4
Lmfao, talk about what. Most of them don't even like those games, they just hate how loved New Vegas is on Ganker and think somehow, they will manage to change that.
A lot of those threads are due to the game having a heavily political plot, which makes it a magnet for /misc/ shitposts in the midst of genuine discussion.
As for FO3, there’s some genuine discussion of it in this very thread. It’s just difficult to talk about 3 on Ganker, because for some reason 3 attracts shitposters in. Way that no other Bethesda game does. Compare it to Oblivion and Skyrim, whose threads attract way less shitposting.
>because for some reason 3 attracts shitposters in.
Maybe start by making a thread that literally isn't attacking New Vegas in the OP and then playing the victim then you fricking israelite?
I’ve played FO3 a lot over the years and know it like the back of my hand, but honestly, there’s not much to discuss because it’s not as political or story focused as NV and the modding scene isn’t as active.
People think all matter of things, but don't get it twisted. Ganker is still a New Vegas board. Run a poll at any time of day, a few vocal pajeets are just desparately trying to shift up the narrative, t'is all
to be fair, you need to be trans to truly appreciate New Vegas
hello sir thank u for doing needful sir
not an argument
and >ur a troony
is an argument?
Posting this over and over again isn't an argument either
Fallout 4 > New Vegas > Fallout 3
Everything else is irrelevant
They're all terrible
FO1 = FO2 > FO:NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FO3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FO4
>FO:NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FO3
I've tried to play fo3 multiple times but every time I get to Megaton I drop it. Megatons insane narrative dissonance triggers me every time
Seems like such a weird thing to get hung up over. You can’t just enjoy it as a piece of pulp camp?
Personally, I struggle to replay NV because I find it’s not wacky enough for my tastes, so it’s probably a preference thing.
no I can't turn my elite giga brain off, new vegas has refined my intellect to a razor sharp edge, I simply can't dismiss the narrative dissonance of megaton
>Seems like such a weird thing to get hung up over. You can’t just enjoy it as a piece of pulp camp?
>I simply can't dismiss the narrative dissonance of megaton
To me, it's how they try to have it both ways; they point out how everything has a detailed explanation, but if you bring up how the explanation doesn't make any sense, they call you autistic.
Correct opinion
Troonout 3 is dead and buried, marketeer.
Everyone is playing FO3 via TTW.
Nobody's playing Troonout 3, don't kid yourself.
ITT some bait that was never believable
I am so assume others are, I don't even go to New Vegas.
NVtrannies will say this with a straight face when Fallout 4 mogs all of them combined.
>more than 4 times the playercount of fallout 3
>brings up fallout 4 because it's convenient
incredible post anon... you truly are valid
You’re the same kinda moron that says Marvel movies are the best movies ever made because so many nomalgays watch them
>Popular = GOOD
moron.
to be fair most people cant run the damn thing
in germany they never patched the fricking windows live thing and i cant fricking play the game, i imagine many others have the same issue in europe
Fallout 4 is a busted game. It is so broken that it never should have shipped, and modders still have not fixed it to successfully to this day.
>horrible stuttering inherent to the game
>long loading screens tied to framerate
>constant crashes
And this is not to mention all of the mediocrity in other departments. The shit story, the boring dialogue, the lack of choices, the voiced protagonist, the world polluted with copious amounts of repetitive content. I truly do not understand what normies see in the game. Nothing will beat FNV/TTW with mods.
Fallout NV: 3 players
Fallout 4: Eleventy billion players
Yeah um, lower your tone when you speak to me
The framerate issue is definitely terrible. FO4 has no excuse.
For me I don't even care about that. Poorgays gonna poor and all. It is the unremovable stutter, inability for modders to unlock the framerate without issue, the ridiculous load times, and the crashes in and around the downtown area. It is simply fricked in a way that FO3 and NV are not.
How can you morons make the same threads and argue the same shit not even every day but every fricking hour, what is wrong with all of you
>"I was wrong.....it's better than New Vegas."
You Are Valid.
Don't let anyone say anything else sister, everyone on Discord appreciates your efforts in defending New Vegas.
Thank you, fellow obsidisister. It feels good to know that even with all these betheschuds bullying us, I can always count on your support.
Kys
>picrel
That's you
xDD i posted my wojak :DDDD i did it i did it thank you reddit! put me in the pol-screencap! :DDD
Keep crying b***h
why don't these morons ever just lose weight
why do they post so many pictures of their hideous self for the world to see
NV=2>1>Tactics>4>3>Shelter>BoS
No need to reply to me, I wasn't asking a question.
>tactitcs that high
i dont like fallout 4 or 3 but comn now
tactics is genuinely a fun game, sorry you aren't based enough for it
I'd put 1 and 2 above NV but solid list.
3 is 100% the better game in most areas.
It’s really just writing that NV excels in. If 3 had NV’s writing, it wouldn’t even be a debate.
I think NV also has slightly better gunplay. Not anywhere near the extent nvtrannies like to pretend it does, but it is a bit better.
Mogged on world design, art direction and atmosphere, tho.
>Fallout 3
>better atmosphere, world design and art direction than New Vegas
>no argument
I accept your concession, dumb frogposter
It’s hard to fault 3 for its art direction. It’s truly stellar.
Most Bethesda games have really good art direction, in fact.
>posts concept art
Very convenient 3jeet.
That looks really fricking good, and an accurate realisation of the concept art.
you CANNOT be serious
Explain how it’s not a good representation of retrofuturism combined with post-apocalyptic elements.
The only outright bad FO3 DLC is Zeta. Anchorage is okay and also gives you some of the best gear in the game as a reward, The Pitt and Point Lookout are phenomenal, and Broken Steel is a good expansion on the main quest and core mechanics.
Desert is a better setting for Fallout, NV is true to the Classics. DC makes no sense and its "retrofuturism" is completely moronic to the point an entire town just feasts on pre-war canned foods. 3 doesn't make any sense.
in the previous fallout games they had established societies, that sure were shaky but worked and made sense.
in fallout 3 you have constant anarchy and pointless warfare, it always feels like society hasnt progressed at all from the bombs and the only people who actually do anything are the enclave and the BOS without any local working institutions.
My headcanon has always been that the east coast was uninhabitable for much longer, like the Glow in California, and then also had way worse problems with raider factions due to a higher number of feral ghouls everywhere. So you ended up with places like Paradise Falls being the largest trader hubs rather than peaceful communities like Shady Sands. Only way it makes even a tiny bit of sense.
okay but that literally ruins an entire area unnecessarily and it's just unfun
Somehow you can't even enslave everyone with Mesmetron, what's the fricking point of being a slaver?
You can enslave most people in the game. It’s mostly just major quest characters who you can’t, and even then the mes kills them.
>what’s the point of being a slaver?
It pays well + roleplaying.
>It’s mostly just major quest characters who you can’t
And why can't I?
I’m not defending that decision, I’m just saying that being a slaver isn’t pointless, since you can still enslave the vast majority of npcs in the game.
NV is bright compared to 3. The difference is mostly atmospheric anyway. NV goes for a spaghetti western inspired vibe, while 3 goes for a more melancholic and creepy vibe. Both work in their own way and it comes down to preference.
One small thing about 3’s atmosphere I’ll say is that the abundance of greens and blues feel quite clever considering that they’re the colours of radiation and water— Too things that are tied heavily into the game’s narrative and themes.
I don't disagree and think Bethesda's moronic when it comes to Fallout worldbuilding, but that's just how I rationalize it to make myself find Fallout 3 and 4 playable at all.
yeah if you wanna have fun you gotta make it make sense... something the developers should do for you not the other way around but oh well
Does having fun need to make 100% sense though? Fallout is an inherently campy and dumb series.
Besides, 3 has better world building than most give it credit for. Sure, there aren’t crop fields everywhere, but there’s trade routes, hunters and territories where certain types of wild life are more common.
not everything has to make sense but just the minimum really
>not everything has to make sense
>Besides, 3 has better world building than most give it credit for. Sure, there aren’t crop fields everywhere, but there’s trade routes, hunters and territories where certain types of wild life are more common.
I liked it
most people itt are into worldbuilding lore nerd shit but i liked the more fairytale take on fallout, not that they did a great job with it but I can enjoy what little they did
They sustain themselves off of cave moss. Did you miss that side quest?
All DLCs for 3 is dogshit, maybe expect PL which is just ok (not writing-wise though, of course), The Pitt's premise and plot are absolutely fricking moronic, and Broken Steel just adds more combat encounters to a game that has the worst gunplay imaginable. Zeta is just lesser Halo that makes space boring, and Anchorage is yet another piece of shit that adds more combat to the game (but this time you have to fight with dogshit weapons you don't even get to choose instead, also, 0 roleplaying present, because we have to be as CoD as possible). Don't even forget the worst final ever.
>posts a casual screenshot that utterly mogs FNV
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
>mogs
yes saar me love cow puke screen color
Bastard shit, you literally posted a screenshot which is greater looking than any typical sight in FNV now you're pretending like that didn't just happen. And speaking of shit that is the atmosphere of FNV. Everything is covered in a brown haze.
that’s just from you rubbing your shit covered hands all over your monitor you stupid ducking indian
Ducking? And what I say is this, it is what you are doing when hindiCHAD walks up to your girlfriend? Maybe if you had real taste you might have some balls too, but you like FNV Fallout Neo Vag so you won't be doing either.
i agree the colour pallet is also kinda limited but you have multiple instances where it changes drammatically, and even then the characters dont look green like in fricking fallout 3.
in fallout 3 everything looks greenish even when it's not supposed to happen, it is true that NV has a lot of brown but things which are not supposed to be brown arent.
>Bastard shit
Oh my God you really are Indian kek
Goodmorning saaar
>le green... it's so le good
see
you idiot
Green > Brown
now that I'm looking at it again, was Fallout 3 always this green and gray?
people really called New Vegas' filter too brown when compared to this and that's surprising because god DAMN F3 looks more washed out and dull than I remember
Washed out and grimy is the aesthetic 3 is going for. If anything, I think it’s made the game visually age better than NV, since NV bright colour palate exposed the imperfections in the character models and assets more.
I'm looking at NV right now and I wouldn't exactly call its pallette "bright"
and it's a dusty desert I can't imagine any other haze but brown working
the brightest the pallette gets in the game would be Zion Cayon and I do have to say, looks pretty dang good
Is this supposed to look bad?
It looks like shit, yes.
I can actually frickign recognize that river becaus eit's where I tested the GECK to mod stuff and create stuff that threw so much grenades the sky would turn into the shadow of mordor
it's <when i founjd out several expklosion near each other will morph into one bigger explosion and also that effects scale so that many nukes would make a huge splash in the river that would have pretty much emptied it if there was fluid physics
the river place looks sovlfvl as fvck thovgheverbeit, try again
You only proved his point, moron. This looks great.
That very good look picture you new vegas troony
Obsiditrannies can't cope with people saying New Vegas has flaws. It's what makes pointing them out and getting a slew of gibbering responses so entertaining, you can tell they're really fricking mad.
NV has flaws you idiot fallout 3 just has more, nobody says NV is "le best ever thing to ever best" it's just that bethesda fanboys have their eyes covered by Todd Howard's shit
Adam adamowicz was good at his job, shame he died and bethesda hasn't replaced him with anyone good
NCR shills
I really don't like the look they went for with most energy weapons.
Except a moronic story just like fallout 4
>world design
Methinks you're an underage moron who enjoys moronic shit like Megaton and Little Lamplight and defends them unironically. You probably also defend copy-pasted metros, moronic settlements that make no sense, and 0-dimensional characters that occupy them.
>art direction
le green lmao.
>atmosphere
kek
>Methinks you're an underage moron who enjoys moronic shit like Megaton
So you're that troon who comes to these threads to make obvious Megaton hateposts.
>M-M-MUH TRANNIEZ
Megaton is moronic, shitskin. Your gayme is a joke.
>slightly better gunplay
Couldn't tell a difference honestly. They're two of the clunkiest shooters of that time. I don't think anyone would have played them without VATS.
In both 3 and NV, it’s actually better to rely on manual aiming until you level up your skills. VATS is too prone to missing at long ranges otherwise.
Although VATS is way more useful in 3 because you can use VATS to i-frame through damage.
I don't care which is better, you aim when you have a scope or when your AP is gone. I'm telling you had those games not come with VATS people would've hated it.
NV has far better guns and apparel, characters, factions, worldbuilding and DLCs also.
as a NV fan fallout 3's DLCs are better
other than honest hearts NV's DLCs suck ass and are just unnecessarily annoying
>as a NV fan fallout 3's DLCs are better
3's DLCs suck ass, have no relations to the game and are terribly written. Mothership Zeta is the worst DLC ever created, right next to Anchorage. Broken Steel retcons the ending and adds more terrible combat sections and radiant quests. The Pitt is too short and only holds up thanks to its environment, the whole story is just nonsensical (just like the rest of 3), only Point Lookout is ok.
HH does suck but Dead Money, OWB and Lonesome Road are all easily better than the Fallout 3 DLC's. The only one I remember enjoying on that was The Pitt
point lookout is the only decent one, and then you have completely irredeemable shit like anchorage/mothership zeta
>dlc
Nah, they'd need a Point Lookout equivalent to be in the running.
>The rest
Yeah, New Vegas genuinely does those better.
>Point Lookout
All NV DLCs are more unique and better than PL. I like it but again, the whole thing is stupid.
what exactly would be a Point Lookout equivalent?
a swamp, a Lovecraft theme?
Point Lookout IS Lovecraftian, so they couldn’t do it without it being a rip off. I think both game’s DLCs are fine.
Honestly, just the same as they've already got but where 90+% of the content isn't just the area's main quest so it doesn't feel so self contained/one note (lonesome road aside because I don't think there's any saving that one)
Honest Hearts and OWB fit that bill although Avellone was let a bit too far off his leash for the latter but both have decent sized non-linear maps with some side content, the former having some of the best writing in the series
ironsights are a completely unnecessary addition and those ugly as ADS models don't improve the gunplay at all. I'm convinced New Vegas babies are all 7th gen gays since they're so adamant about an action rpg needing ironsights when regular shooters never needed them to begin with
Iron sights do make aiming “feel” better, but I agree it wasn’t a 100% necessary addition. Honestly, NV’s biggest gameplay problem is that it nerfs VATS to near uselessness (since aiming is more accurate at low levels and VATS doesn’t give you i-frames anymore).
Also, this might just me, but DT seems to make the enemies in NV way more spongy than 3’s enemies. 3’s enemies on really became sponges if you either cranked up the difficulty or you built a non-combat character.
What does ADS even add? It's also jarring in FNV when some weapons have actual sights but a third of them still use the zoom, it's be better if it was all or none
It adds a placebo of the shooting feeling better. Plus, it was 2010, so ADS was becoming an industry standard at that point (which it wasn’t when FO3 was in development).
It is just placebo though. In 3, zooming is just as accurate as NV’s ADS.
Is this whole 'Fallout 3 is the best Fallout game and NV is shit' narrative I'm seeing lately some sort of discord campaign by Bethesda fanboys or something? For the past 10 years this board has done nothing but wank over New Vegas and shit on the Bethesda fallouts
paid actors ngl
>fallout movie releases.
>Ganker suddenly loves todd Howard and fallout 3.
discord troons are shilling 24/7 for fallout nonstop, but most importantly they arent even getting paid for it.
i say we triple bethesda's fanboys' pay!
its either a desperate, and I mean DESPERATE attempt to get people talking about the franchise and watch that pile of steaming shit they call a show or just simple (You) farming. Of course Ganker likes NV
Ganker is filled with people that want to argue more than anything else. I would bet that most of the people saying Fallout 3 is better truly don't think so or haven't played either game recently and are just going off faulty memories and nostalgia. New Vegas has improved animations, gunplay, weapon variety, and textures. It has well-developed factions, well-written nonlinear quests, and multiple branching endings. The DLC is all rated much higher than Fallout 3's, and have interconnected stories with Ulysses, Father Elijah, and Christine in addition to their individual narratives.
Fallout New Vegas was an improvement over Fallout 3 in basically every single way, and that's if you just consider them stand-alone games and don't include the fact that New Vegas includes much more connection to the original games whereas Fallout 3 is almost completely disconnected from Fallout 1 and 2. The main reason Fallout New Vegas received worse review scores, if you go back and look at them, is almost entirely because it was considered a "rehash" of Fallout 3. At its core, it's the same engine and reuses a lot of assets. Reviewers see that and immediately mark it down. Most still actually considered the rest of the game superior to Fallout 3. It's why Bethesda always includes major engine improvements in their flagship titles. Look at the graphical and stability jumps between Morrowind and Oblivion, Oblivion to Skyrim, or Fallout 3 to 4.
>The main reason Fallout New Vegas received worse review scores, if you go back and look at them, is almost entirely because it was considered a "rehash" of Fallout 3. At its core, it's the same engine and reuses a lot of assets.
No it was a buggy mess that crashed constantly.
That was definitely a factor, but the other factor was that it was more of the same. NV is 95% mechanically identical to 3, afterall.
Even popular critics of the time like Yahtzee Croshaw were calling it Fallout 3.5.
Discord Troons and Pajeets are the driving force behind it, yes.
the pendulum swung one way too hard now its swinging back, people are looking back at FO3 with another mindset and some guys are trolling a bit too
contrarian board i guess
The entire pendulum shift can be traced back to MrBTongue’s “Shandification of Fallout” video essay. He’s the one who coined the “what do they eat?” argument afterall. 2013-2017 was basically the peak of Fallout 3 hate.
It's time for the shoe to be on the other foot. Fallout NV's cult following grew until it became an actual cult
>NOOOOO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION!!
yes yes thank you for doing the needful and redeeming the fall out 3 good sir very kino
I enjoyed both
finally a non-moron
Why does Fallout 3 and 4 feel so fanfictiony?
FO3 fricked up by turning the GECK from FO2 into this end all be all device. Also the main quest makes no fricking sense.
Why did they turn it into a bomb in fallout 3? bethesda is so moronic holy shit lol,
It’s cooler, that’s why. Plus, it gives you that moment where you can choose to activate the GECK prematurely for shits and giggles.
>FO2 GECK: briefcase with some seeds, basic matter replicator and holodisks with survival info.
>FO3 GECK: a fricking bomb for some reason.
>bethesdrones: wow so le cool, big boomb haha, frick lore consistency and shit xD
It wasn’t a fricking bomb, moron. In FO3, activating it would start landscaping immediately. By being in ground zero of it, underground, you’re basically an ant in a coke bottle that’s being stuffed with mentos.
Forgot when you ask the President in FO2, he said that there was always a "catch" in every vault, so this is why vault 13 opened way later than the rest of them. The water chip issue was a "happy accident". Perhaps that GECK suitcase was the "catch" in another vault? Just saying, I have played both FO2 and FO3 ages ago and I dont remember the details
these threads are made by Bethesda interns who are told to do so by their marketing dept
No, the shilling actually comes from the New vegas devs, pretending NV is so much better because muh better writing.
Then people actually fricking played Fo3 and realized its pretty good as well despite having "worse writing" (several quests are quite decent ecven is not always fully realized) because they get semi blown away by how good the world is, and as good people with a sovl, they come to reesetablish the truth, since the new vegas devs, to make shekels and sell more of their game, have shit on FO3 for years
Man I sure love Fallout. I wonder what's going on in this generic spam Fallout thread #10000.
Oh... On second thought I'll just be a Fallout fan by myself.
honestly this thread has been better and more civil than most I've seen over the past couple weeks
probably on account of no soijack spam (yet)
That's not a high bar...
fallout threads used to be some of the comfier ones on the board
Yeah I do remember them. I still remember discussions on some of my favorite mods like DUST.
and it begins
no now it ends.
Your game is dogshit, Emil
>post dialogue by an intelligent major character versus dialogue by a minor character who’s a dumb meathead
Nice comparison.
Here's your smart character bro.
i think he's trolling but these threads are such a clusterfrick of trolls trying to own the FNV hugboxers, tourists and braindead culture warrior who knows
Meanwhile how women treat the courier in New Vegas
>we don't take shit from nobody.
I am ESL but correct me if I am wrong. Shouldn't it be:
>we don't take shit from anybody.
?
Why is New Vegas considered a trans game?
Funny meme
Why can't you stop dilating your axe wound?
troony Super Mutant
>put female into fev
>resultant mutant is female
?
There really isn't anything bad to say about it so FO3 and now FO4 sissies just make up unfunny memes about it.
The NV to trans pipeline is an observable phenomenon though. To the point where the trans community embraces it.
Personally, I think it’s because NV is arguably the most autistic game in the franchise (since it has a huge emphasis on pseudo-realism and politics), and there’s a huge overlap between autism and troonyism.
Plus, NV is the only game in the series where you can make a gay character.
>The NV to trACKKKKKK
Seems more like consequence of the 'tism than a pipeline, unless NV directly makes them troon out somehow.
Its a white man's game and pajeets cant come with a counter argument when they compare it with FO3-4 so they spew buzzwords.
It's definitely white, but it's not a "mans" game.
>playing a hot girl makes you trans
go post this in a stelar blade thread homosexual
>le wojak argumentum.
BASED DESTINY AFFIRMING BRO!!! LET ME DIE!!!!!!!!!
you still magically survive lmao
Bro… 🙁
>Fawkes, grab that GECK
>OK
…
>Fawkes, flip that switch right over there
>I’m sorry, my companion. This is the end of the game. Your destiny ends here. I would never rob you of that.
Bethesda was so, so fricking moronic for not only making this guy immune to radiation, but also making him mandatory to pick up alongside the main questline in the first place. God, frick Bethesda.
Or maybe Fawkes was just a gay. Get over it freak.
have a nice day bethesdrone.
>but also making him mandatory
He’s not mandatory. You can get the GECK yourself if you have high enough radiation resistance:
%3D
I also see what they were going for with the ending. The whole story is a Biblical allegory, so they wanted to give the player a choice as to whether they wanted to make that sacrifice. They could have set it up better, but I see what they were going for.
>check comments
>bethesda vs obsidian
war... war never changes.
Yup, Yup!
Fallout New Vegas? Treats its world like a theme park while the better game CHADout 3 treats its world as a living breathing world. CHADout 3 was ahead of its time while TROONout New DILATOR used CHADout's hard work to get where they are at. You can't even have TROONout New DILATOR without CHADout's hard work.
Was the xir friend in love with him? You know what, if xe was just a regular woman, that'd make a really nice love triangle story.
>3toddlers consider this good
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>NOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE TWO DIFFERENT GAMES EQUALLY NOOOO
Yes, you have to hate both of them
Out of Business is the best OST in the series
fite me
Some of you guys give FO3 way more hate than it deserves. It was the first ever attempt at a 3D open world Fallout game and was pretty solid.
It also has one of the best evil playthroughs imo
Something I find interesting about Bethesda games in general is that at the time of their release they were considered absolutely mindblowing and revolutionary (and they honestly were for their time), but nowadays, the general public considers the whole Bethesda format outdated.
The lukewarm reception of Starfield stands out to me as an example of this. I feel like if it came out in like 2007-8, it would be praised much more heavily, since it’s not massively different from the usual Bethesda game fair.
What changed that turned Bethesda from a Rockstar level company that could do no wrong in the eyes of the general gaming public to a laughing stock?
> What changed that turned Bethesda from a Rockstar level company that could do no wrong in the eyes of the general gaming public to a laughing stock?
You just said it yourself? If Starfield was released in 2007 it would be considered a good game, yeah. It’s 20-fricking-24 now, and they’re using the same antiquated engine.
Fallout 4 wasn’t the smoothest reception, either. 76 sealed the deal that Bethesda had lost the plot.
They’re a laughing stock because their aging engine just lends itself to more and more bugs, and somehow it’s become such an unstable shitshow that even normalgays would rather not fellate them and admit Starfield blows.
True, but the actual appeal of the Bethesda formula hasn’t changed. “Go anywhere, do anything, and have every environment be detailed and highly interactable” is something Bethesda have still cornered the market on. You’d think now would be the prime time to release a “Bethesda killer” game, but no one has done it.
it's not because back then it had somewhat of a level of polish and being the first kinda open world FPS thingy but with the advent of all these open world games, the lower quality aspects of the gaùmes like gunplay, AI, sometimes even music, and especially system design (at which they are pretty shit and got away with for several games now (obliviobn,n skyrim, fallout 3 etc, in terms of talents / economy, buff debuffs etc) are less forgiven, now we got witcher 3 assasqisn screed far cry whatever, so the standard has increased and bethesda seems always to be a train late to the party, and catering to casuals and treating them like idiot too much
>and they’re using the same antiquated engine.
Engine memes always make me laugh because it shows how little people understand about how engines work.
>Fallout 4 wasn’t the smoothest reception, either. 76 sealed the deal that Bethesda had lost the plot.
Fallout 4 was critically acclaimed, and 76 has had so many updates that most people agree its a pretty good game now.
>They’re a laughing stock because their aging engine just lends itself to more and more bugs, and somehow it’s become such an unstable shitshow that even normalgays would rather not fellate them and admit Starfield blows.
Except starfield was praised for having significantly less bugs compared to past Bethesda games, and the issues with it had nothing to do with the engine.
stagnation
the bigger you get and the more of the market you take up the more prone you are to suffering it
it's nothing new
I have a serious question here. Does it “count” if you play these games on console? I enjoy Fallout and played 3 and NV on PS3 when they first came out. I started replaying them on Series X. But a lot of people say it’s not a genuine experience because it’s not on PC and with mods.
4 had a kino intro atleast
meant for
Tru dood
I like all the fallout games
So you only like 1 and 2?
Why does the Fallout games tricks normies into thinking they're hardcore nerds? It's the most mainstream RPG you can play today.
Don't mind me I'll just leave this here.
You really think you're funny huh?
yep, and I'm not an indian.
But you're not. I'd advise you to shut the frick up if you got nothing to contribute. 🙂
Yeah, you said yourself. I'm not an indian, unlike you.
>But you're nACKKKKKKKK
Fallout 3 was better in terms of polish (which is hilarious) and had the better setting. NV had better auxiliary stuff like different dialog if you were moronic, better factions, and characters.
If you played the game as 'point a direction and go' while ignoring the overarching quests and such? F3 was better.
stepping out the vault for the first time in F3 and seeing the huge fricked up and bleak landscape was dope
NV and 4 never really had a wow moment like that
That moment is ironically what turned Fallout from a niche series into a blockbuster franchise. That moment still hasn’t lost its impact all these years later. It’s why Bethesda has spent decades trying to recapture it in every Fallout game they make.
> 4
4 did with the vault elevator having you come up into the wasteland exactly like Fo3.
3 did it with much more artistry. The music slowly swelling as the wasteland became more visible, the Vault being positioned in such a way that you see DC in the distance. Much more thought at care was put into the reveal of the vista, whereas 4 starts you in the top left corner of the map with very few landmarks to see.
wasnt the same, you could see monuments far far away in 3 and it was more desolate
4 you just step out and see a town with 6 houses and some trees
arriving at the dc mall for the first time(in 2008) is still one of the most awe inspiring experiences I've had in vidya
Memes aside I do prefer the more simple crafting in FO3 than the clutter shit in NV
old world blues>dead money>mothership zeta>lonesome road>the pit>point lookout>>>>
hearts
Alright, Whats the rationale for mothership zeta being so high, Genuinely curious because personally I fricking despise it, the jap is alright though
I love alien shit
you know what fair enough
Yeah its not hard to tell. Both the alien and the shit part.
Is it just the "cool" thing to shit on Fallout 3? I'm playing it now with ttw and its really fun.
It's a case of Obsidiots and Bethdrones having an autistic slapfight. Disregard it, there's nothing wrong with Fallout 3 tbh
Ganker is a 3 site always was NV sisters trying to rewrite history is nothing new.
>go here
>do this
>congratulations quest completed item received
Fallout NV and 4 summarized
Fallout 3 was a flash in the pan that was forgotten after 2 years and even during its brief time in the limelight it was made fun of and called Oblivion with guns by real Fallout fans.
>Fallout 3 was a flash in the pan that was forgotten after 2 years
Actual historical revisionism.
He's right, even now it can't surpass NV
.
And NV cant surpass Fo4 or 76.
Who would've guess newer games have more players?
3 and NV are basically the same games, hell NV has more bugs and is less stable than 3. It has nothing to do with how new it is. It's just nobody gives a single frick about 3 anymore. No mods, no genuine discussion, nothing.
>an obscure blog post is representative of mainstream opinion
The argument isn’t that FO3 didn’t have haters, the argument is that those haters were in the minority. Fallout was literally made relevant thanks to 3.
now that is revisionist consolegay history. Fallout was a massively succesful computer game, why did you think Bethesda went to such trouble in order to acquire the license and kill off the Fallout MMORPG that was being produced by Interplay at the time, instead of making their own post-apocalyptic franchise?
Yet 3 sold more than any other game in the series up until that point, and received widespread critical acclaim.
I think you’re also forgetting the damage BoS did to the brand.
>forgotten
Yet people still talk about it and play it. It’s a hugely important game that set the standard of what a modern Fallout should play like.
Maybe but 3's DLCs alone were still better than the entirety of NV + its DLCs plus NVs writing is cartoony and moronic with the grandma mutant and shit also you smell like cheesy mildew
That image is probably older than you tourist
>Maybe but 3's DLCs alone were still better than the entirety of NV + its DLCs plus NVs writing is cartoony and moronic with the grandma mutant and shit also you smell like cheesy mildew
But enough about troonout 3.
>Maybe but 3's DLCs alone were still better than the entirety of NV + its DLCs plus NVs writing is cartoony and moronic with the grandma mutant and shit also you smell like cheesy mildew
Words like this you can only hear in contrarian Ganker.
FNV was only fun for getting the war club that knocks people around and bludgeoning things and the strip was way too small fight me. The bowie knife was juicy but that's it, literally two DLC items. The game fricks your save if you save in gaynuis's little stupid Indian camp too so defend that Obsididrone
>more inane horseshit
This bait doesn't work anymore sirs.
Wrecked hahahha enjoy fornite fallout mcdonalds tv show in 14 years there will never be another fallout 3 or anything good because of (You)
>never be another fallout 3
Thank fricking God. We need less garbage (not that Bethesda could make anything but that).
>the less garbage face of Fallout when
Suck on this one, Nintendo.
>they used the weird lewis gun design
oh for frick sake
R I P P E N
moron
Everyone moved onto NV and 4.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/1EJmpY2MwUCkbYNPlrPILw/
Mindbroken bethestroon lmao.
False chart, cherry picked and factually incorrect.
This is irrefutable, the science has been settled.
Hm, it's almost like Fallout 3 quest graphs are listing every little skill check (since there are so little of those).
3 has a decent amount of skill checks. Not as many as NV, but more than you’d think.
Also, 3’s side quests tend to have more branching paths, whereas the choice in NV comes from what side quests you take rather than what you do within those side quests.
Because it's more fun to post about a game being a complete piece of shit that killed your wife and fricked your dog and a game that is the best game ever than post about a flawed game and a game that improved on it a bit
Can we admit that Starfield was good now?
>morons will reply to this post honestly
LOL
Said no one ever.
bros I just want to play a simple FO4 playthru again with maybe better weather and game fixes.. but everytime I start modding I'm tempted to install coomer shit like more female settlers, cbbe, and other coomer shit... then I get tired and stop doing anything at all... HELP
i prescribe 20 hours of talk to a real girl
I just like the first 2 games more because they're actual RPGs.
That said, 3 has a better world to explore and look around but NV has factions.
why didn't the series include T-51 power armor?
For the same reason india is very supportive of israel.
Currently replaying FO3, and while I enjoy it, the actual gameplay is rough at points. I get that it’s an RPG, but it really feels like you really aren’t able to fight effectively until you get some better weapons. I feel it’s more fun on lower difficulties since you can drop enemies faster.
do an explosives build
OP hates toilets confirmed
I hope the deranged man or men who make these horrible fallout memes start making equivalents for games like TLOU2
What's with this weird FO3 vs NV rivalry when TTW exists? You can literally play both games in one playthrough with all the strengths of each game.
enjoy your bulletsponge enemies and broken nv economy moron
Bleed and jawyer fixes the bullet sponginess
Fallout threads are the only things that piss me the frick off. Imagine being so fricking stupid that you genuinely think FO3 is better than New Vegas. What fricking planet do you have to live on to be that fricking delusional?
3 does certain things better than NV. The exploration and dungeon crawling aspects in particular.
>What fricking planet do you have to live on to be that fricking delusional?
India.
>India.
You really can't think up something better eh? Imagine thinking about India all the time that's some obsessive shit.
Gunplay is abysmally fricking bad, and I'm tired of filling my inventory full of dog shit weapons just to keep ONE weapon at an acceptable durability
>cant craft more ammo without playing the DLC
>zero unique weapons
>>zero unique weapons
Just because they don’t use different models doesn’t make them not unique weapons. The unique weapons in 3 have different stats and status effects over their base variants, and are worth getting as a result.
>Fallout 3 fans
normal people who enjoyed a novel atmospheric shooter when they were 13
>Fallout New Vegas fans
axe wound trannies
Which one are you?
Anyone else feel superior playing TTW, get to enjoy both without sperging out which is better
Oh no you don't you idort!
Basado
I loved how dark the indoor areas of 3 were. It made the pipboy light pretty useful and it also leaned into the fact that the stealth system is based on light and shadow.
The Stealth system is poor in FO3. It's not "Thief".
You have to earn caps and EXP points.
DO THE NEEDFUL AND REDEEM FALLOUT 3 BLODY BASTERD BENCHOD b***hS
This is cool and all. But what was the Institute's plan?
Surface dwellers are subhuman mutants. Replace them with Gen 4 synths that are immune to radioactive mutation and able to reproduce.
>IT'S THE INDIANS
>IT'S THE ITALIANS
>IT'S THE DISCORD
It's time to lay off the estrogen and install Fallout 3 & 4
redeemed.
I like fallout 3 for the bethesda type open world and fricking around while I enjoy new vegas as a sequel to fallout 1 and 2
Guys stop joking that new vegas is good
shitskin thread
too many 'jaks
no longer funny
Here’s a small change between 3 and NV that I always questioned:
Why does NV have a different running animation than 3? There was nothing wrong with 3’s running animation and all the other animations are reused.
You know what nit pick I have? Why the FRICK can’t I zoom the camera out further from my character? This isn’t gears of war, let me see god damn it.
What are some bare minimum mods for NV? Wanna do a mostly vanilla playthrough with no extra shit
fallout 3 AWOP mod is some of the most fun I've had in fallout. really love exploring new locations/dungeons
In what year did everyone decide fallout 3 was the spawn of satan made from pure evil, and New Vegas was some impeccable angel game perfect in every way and that any flaws with it was Bethesda's fault)?
2008, probably
The correct answer is 2013. That’s the exact year this tribalism began.
Lincoln’s repeater and the Gauss Rifle are the two most busted things in the game.
>Lincoln’s repeater
pretty sure it gets power crept by the backwater riffle in point lookout and that only uses 10mm
Tbf, it’d be less time consuming to name a DLC weapon that ISN’T overpowered in some capacity.
I have to respect Bethesda for going absolutely crazy with 3’s DLC.
whats your favorite fallout 3 unique weapon?
for me its either the kneecapper or the perforator
>no stock
for what purpose
The Master is still the best fallout villain, by far.
I’d say Eden is the best. Mostly because of his stellar voice acting and the fact that a computer President is a really neat concept.
You have to be joking.
His voice work is pretty good. Malcolm McDowall really nailed the role.
Ok, that doesn't make him a good villain at all.
The Master is a moron who wants to repopulate Earth with sterile mutants.
Eden is a moron who isn't even respected by his own faction.
He can grow them in labs. Sexual reproduction is irrelevant.
He literally can't. He need humans to dip in FEV. Preferably pure humans, unless he wants his master race to be a bunch of morons.
Nothing that a little concentration camp can't fix.
The whole point of replacing humans with mutants, in Master's mind, was to create a stable, homogeneous society where everyone is equal and also everyone is a radiation resistant gigachad.
The necessity to leave some pure humans as a breeding stock is a complete antithesis to this idea. Thus, Master blowed himself up.
Fallout 3 Fallout 4 Fallout Shelter enjoyers:
Sexy
Intelligent
Straight
White
Male
New vegas, 1, 2, troons:
Ugly
Dumb
troony
Indian
WABAM
Genuine question.
But why aren't Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 fans not using this boost in popularity that the TV show got them to you know, discuss Fallout 3 and Fallout 4? Prior to this tv show you were lucky to get one of those threads a week on Ganker.
Why are you wasting this opportunity to instead, talk about New Vegas (which has seen daily threads since I can remember)?
>talk about Fallout 3 and Fallout 4
Lmfao, talk about what. Most of them don't even like those games, they just hate how loved New Vegas is on Ganker and think somehow, they will manage to change that.
There are plenty of games people play hundreds of hours of and never talk about here.
We get Deu Sex threads pretty regularly.
A lot of those threads are due to the game having a heavily political plot, which makes it a magnet for /misc/ shitposts in the midst of genuine discussion.
As for FO3, there’s some genuine discussion of it in this very thread. It’s just difficult to talk about 3 on Ganker, because for some reason 3 attracts shitposters in. Way that no other Bethesda game does. Compare it to Oblivion and Skyrim, whose threads attract way less shitposting.
>because for some reason 3 attracts shitposters in.
Maybe start by making a thread that literally isn't attacking New Vegas in the OP and then playing the victim then you fricking israelite?
Holy shit, what is this victim complex?
Maybe you should make better threads homosexual.
I’ve played FO3 a lot over the years and know it like the back of my hand, but honestly, there’s not much to discuss because it’s not as political or story focused as NV and the modding scene isn’t as active.
>you lived to see a day where people actually think f3 is better than nv
People think all matter of things, but don't get it twisted. Ganker is still a New Vegas board. Run a poll at any time of day, a few vocal pajeets are just desparately trying to shift up the narrative, t'is all
I mean, that was the mainstream opinion outside of Ganker for some time until people started making video essays about NV.
Historical revisionism like this will never work.
>mainstream opinion
You do know we have user scores on pretty much every review collection site right? Steam included?
https://odysee.com/@Minnesota-tan:5/Codex-Pajeet-II:4