>that date on the tweet
Wait..
So this wasn't a last minute decision because they went overbudget or something?
You're talling me this was planned beforehand ,years in fact,nearly a decade planned beforehand?And nobody thought that it might be a bad idea?
it began to pick up at that time in 2010, it was not as common but 2009 was the start of that trend.
if anything hes to blame for picking a trendy artstyle and then wondering why everyone is absolutely fed up with it more than 10 years later
>It's a shame that some morons have turned that into death threats
That's just a way they deflect blame as anyone who doesn't like it as evil people
Turn one bad actor or false flag as the whole so frick them
>It's a shame that some morons have turned that into death threads.
No they haven't. Stop believing this fricking cop-out excuse every time. It's always bullshit.
>death threats
didnt happen, and even if it did. so what? as long as their name wasnt written with squiggles and you arent a homosexual nothing will happen.
It’s not even about pixels, but rather just nicely drawn/painted art.
A modern game in the classic style would just be hi-res hand painted backdrops, and well-animated sprites for the characters. The original games were “pixel art” because ALL computer art was at the time. And if anything, mark(?) Ferrari’s art was pretty cutting edge.
It's great when Ganker ensures a loss for their side by getting involved in stuff in only the way Ganker can.
Could have been a civil discussion with the devs and maybe they could have been convinced but instead you idiots bandwagoned super hard and raged and attack like usual.
Oh well, none of you were going to play it anyway, or have played the previous games.
Real fans will still play it.
>Real fans will still play it.
The people that are mad about the art style are actually the real fans. If you don't have a personal attachment to the previous games, of course you wouldn't give a frick what art style they choose.
If the 1 and 2 remakes, Escape, or Tales of were the first ones you played, you're not a real fan, your opinion is irrelevant. You need to have been there in the 90's.
Could have been convinced? To change the entire artstyle in an about to release game that has been in development for 26 months? The same artstyle that the lead developer has wanted for the series since 2009?
Ganker was never going to accomplish shit dude, these threads are just commiserating and shitposting about the artistic decline of our society
>yeah man maybe if people weren't so mean about it they would have changed the entire game's art style from the ground up before it releases
Kill you're self
>they could have been convinced to redraw and reanimate the entire game
exdee
Unless it was all a skit, which I doubt, that's what happened with the fist Sonic movie
One thing is changing the 3d model of a character that you can easily replace because 60% of your movie is shot in real life enviroments
Another is making entirely new assets and redoing EVERYTHING in the art style
>yeah man maybe if people weren't so mean about it they would have changed the entire game's art style from the ground up before it releases
Kill you're self
>redraw and reanimate the entire game
The animation is all lazy puppet shit, so if they just made the character models less repulsive it should be reanimated automatically.
Might have a point if he was tilting at us, but his comments were directed at Twitter and the comment section of his blog. Sentiment was unanimous before he pivoted to the "evil gamers" narrative.
>Real fans will still play it.
Great bait mate.
The people who’ll play it are the ones who see any criticism of authority as an opportunity to virtue signal.
Though I do wonder, given how lefty the devs are, if there will be “accessibility options” that solve all the puzzles for those bottom feeding morons
I've got the LucasArts Classic Collection, big box releases 1&2 for DOS, and the Limited run Anthology that came out a few months back. I bought 1, 2, and 3 the day they came out.
I suppose that makes me a fan. This game doesn't interest me. It looks like a reboot rather than a sequel; I don't want to replay the first game. I don't care for the lazy art style. I'm not even going to bother.
I have no idea why the frick you can/MUST see a star on every planet in ME Legendary. Part of the charm in OG was >colored
sky. Plus, it's not like you can see a Sun when the sky is cloudy. What they did was just apsurd.
Is that supposed to be Type-0, left of ME? (never played the game) What in the frick...?
artist have all these powerful creation tools now and it just makes them lazy and lets more incompetents into the workforce. it's like painting vs. photobashing.
homosexuals on Ganker dont get this for movies and they do not get this for games: The people that create these "remakes" are bottom of the barrel workers that just are there to generate safe money for the company. ACTUAL creative people work on NEW stuff, just like back then. Comparing old games with their remakes is dishonest, compare them to modern masterpieces instead and you will realize nothing changed. Have a good day
>Comparing old games with their remakes is dishonest, compare them to modern masterpieces instead
why would I compare two totally different games? and not all of the games in that pic are remakes, some are brand new entries in already existing franchises and so the comparison is more than fair
these MI threads got me in a point-and-click mood, playing toonstruck rn. What could revive this genre anons? Did watching walkthrough/streams kill the genre for good?
>Did watching walkthrough/streams kill the genre for good?
Zoomers are lazy and have a really short attention span. They want action, explosions and instant gratification. They don't like games where you can get stuck and are forced to think for yourself. They rely on others (or their "smart" phones) to do the thinking for them.
Some of this is true but not entirety. It's true that games nowadays prefer difficulty like in Dark Souls where you can brute force your way through ever challenge rather than play the game where you can get stuck forever.
But there were other issues as well. They lack replayability. In majority of titles your every playthrough will be exactly the same no matter what and there isn't any play a fun challenge runs. Also there wasn't much innovation in the genre over the years. The core gameplay in new pnc adventurers is very similar to the one in Lucas Arts and Sierra games.
Also, the core gameplay has issues. It devolves too often into trying to guess what the game creators wanted you to do in this particular moment. In other games there are multiple solutions to all problems. You encounter enemies in an RPG. You try one strategy, it doesn't work, you try different one, it works a bit better, then you improve the second strategy and win the encounter. In PnC adventures you just have to know and the game doesn't really provide any feedback. Either your solution works or it doesn't.
>It devolves too often into trying to guess what the game creators wanted
I actually like that aspect of it, cause it keeps me thinking and makes the payoff all the better if you figured out what you need to do. I wouldn't have nearly as much fun playing a point and click if I didn't get stuck at all.
>It devolves too often into trying to guess what the game creators wanted you to do in this particular moment.
I'm still annoyed at Deponia Doomsday having a thing you have to pick up by repeatedly ignoring the game acting like it's a generic item you can't pick up. There's a "hint" but it's really hard to pick up on it until you've already solved the puzzle. At least the music puzzle required an option you had from the start. I can't recommend these games to people who aren't already huge fans of the genre because of this shit.
This is what happens when shitty parental education, modern feminism, daycares and babysitters, the lack of beating your kids for being idiots and depending on daddy state does to an entire generation.
>modern feminism,
You are so out of touch it's funny if you think feminism is relevant to modern day, the most attention it gets is JK Rowling making an ass out of herself on Twitter.
That's much better actually. Smartphones are designed for morons, PCs are for people who know what they're doing.
2 years ago
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>Smartphones are designed for morons,
There's something to be said on this for the app-based structure, but something tells me you don't actually use smartphones all that often.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They are called smartphones, because they are meant for "smart" people.
They are also called CELLphones, because....
You can figure it out.
2 years ago
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>unironically thought CELLphones were for cell people for a moment
I'm fricking moronic
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>for cell people
No, that's not it, but you are close.
To be fair, I used to do this but with gamefaqs 20 years ago. Once the internet became big enough, no one wanted to be stuck at a certain level for hours on end just because the developers felt like making it superdy dooper confusing.
>What could revive this genre anons?
devs should find inspiration from something other than 90's lucas arts and sierra. art, writing, puzzles and humor are going to feel tired if you're the hundredth person to copy them.
pic related is imo the best point and click ever. good characters, branching plot, puzzles that make sense in the setting, great atmosphere. I'd kill for another espionage game this good.
It has actual puzzle like puzzles with buttons, symbols, and numbers and such things.
But it also relies on some degree of detective work from the player where it wants you pay attention to and identify various similarities and or inconsistencies between the various branching paths in order to find out how to access new branching paths.
It's genuinely an extremely cool game. A real point & click adventure.
Just a pro tip. Stay clear away from any potential guides that are commonly bundled with most distributions of the game online. They ruin the experience. Just click on everything, guideless, and you'll have a great time.
>What could revive this genre anons?
Sales.
Any studio that get big enough is just going to drop it for something with higher potential sales. Daedalic doesn't even make point & clicks anymore and ALL of their revenue for the first few years was off point & clicks.
This guy gets it. The reality should've set in when Telltale- a company formed by publicly declaring LucasArts as, and I quote, "betrayers"- dropped the genre to make decision-and-consequence 'narrative experiences'.
Not him but I'd imagine it's not like someone who hates Jack Black playing Brutal Legend. Probably a tertiary character voiced by him. Anyways if you turn your nose up at a game over something so petty you don't deserve good games anyways
>What could revive this genre anons?
I say the same thing for other "dead" genres like shmup's. They're still being made and they have their audience but if they want to get mainstream appeal they'd need to expand on the core ideas of the genre without just turning into a different genre. The beauty in gaming is that you don't really need to follow genre rules, you're just expected.
So to make point-and-click or traditional adventure games come back they'd need to find interesting ways of addressing the usual things that might drive people away.
You could probably make a more swashbuckling high flying adventure Monkey Island while still keeping the core aspect of talking to people and puzzle solving although I imagine it could be seen as too big a departure from the "formula".
No, graphic adventures were already long dead before streaming was mainstream.
Part of it was unable to make the transition to 3D, part of it was consoles being mainstream (PnC is clunky AF), part of it were other genres being made popular.
But also is that graphic adventures are one hell of a beast to tame, everything had to stick together and being planned beforehand, story, characters, locations, puzzles, everything was in play to make the best thing possible. It's not like other genres where you can get basic systems right and then make modular levels.
They started streamlining games too much, from Syberia that was basically a browser game (puzzles were mostly clicking around). I hate to be that guy, but most narrative adventures grabbed the best parts of graphic adventures, but most of them still aren't as good as the good old school adventures.
BTW the latest Syberia is amazing.
Yesterday I was playing Memento Mori 2, everything is pretty OK if you don't mind some jank, but everything seems to have like 10 steps for doing a simple thing. I had to watch a walkthrough just to know how the story went.
Play:
Og hero’s quest and quest for glory
Kings quest 5&6
Monkey island 1,2&3
Primordia
Strangeland
Unavowed
Gemini rue
Chains of satinav
The longest journey
Deponia
The dig
Full throttle
The Indy series
Kyrandia 1&2
Grim fandango
Gabriel knight series
Phantasmagoria series
Kathy rain
Lamplight city
Whispers of a machine
Machinarium
Laura bow series
Not all of them are amazing, and you’ll love or hate shit depending on your tastes of course.
I stopped listing cos I was sitting outside and it was cold
QfG series is currently on sale on GOG.
Based. The best version of the first one is the ega one, 3 is blatantly unfinished, and 5 is fricking weird, but all of them are worth a play.
No Sam and Max: Hit the Road?
I stopped listing them, but yeah definitely
>No Day of the Tentacle >but the crappy The Dig
Dropped >Gabriel Knight Series
No, only the first 2. Better only the very first, which is a classic. The 2nd is a FMV game.
Frick DotT and frick maniac mansion. And most of all, frick thimbleweed park. All those shitty games suck. The humour is unfunny, the swapping characters gets old as frick, but mostly because the puzzles are asinine. cat moustache or belt buckle outhouse tier.
Maybe I’d add that beatboxing tumour head guy one if you do really like dumb unfunny shit though.
>No Day of the Tentacle >but the crappy The Dig
Dropped >Gabriel Knight Series
No, only the first 2. Better only the very first, which is a classic. The 2nd is a FMV game.
Ganker is unironically Streisand affecting this game so that SJWs who never grew up with the original play it, including game journos who will give it a 10/10 and then everyone will be playing it
>Ganker
lol twitter and his own blog is the reason they're trying to co-ordinate a gamergate narrative around it.
And no, there was no public death threats. His blog, including the comments about the art style, are all cached.
It's been proven a million times that the SJWs who keep shouting about women and LGBT in games don't actually play or buy games.
Very likely the ones defending this shit don't either.
lol no. Monkey Island is a classic and is a posterboy for the P&C genre. There's no way this wouldn't have blown up with or without the artstyle, Ganker, or any other factor. As long as humans can communicate, this would have blown up.
That kind of improvement over 4 years is the impressive part. Art is hard, drawing is hard, painting is hard. You can paint along with Bob Ross but it won't look like Bob Ross's work.
I'm positively suprised over the backlash over this globohomosexual artstyle being revealed for Monkey Island. It's a similar kind of reaction people had to the sonic movie, so negative it pretty much forces the devs to re-evaluate the design. It's good to see that public opinion can work as a form of quality control, 'cause holy shit that style is revolting in every way.
>so negative it pretty much forces the devs to re-evaluate the design
Not a chance for this one unfortunately. The lead dev seems to have tied his ego to the style and will die before admitting it was a mistake.
That's because it's simply not a mistake to him. He likes it. The issue is that it is so heavily stylized that is pretty much forces extreme responses, and he can't deal with that.
Seriously? I didn't keep up with it but that's quite interesting to hear, especially after Buzz's voice actor's comments when hearing about non-degenerate countries banning the movie.
Seriously? I didn't keep up with it but that's quite interesting to hear, especially after Buzz's voice actor's comments when hearing about non-degenerate countries banning the movie.
Lightyear flopped because it sucked, it didn't flop because of the lesbian kiss. Quit being a Redditor.
If it makes executives stop forcing homosexualry into every game and movie because they think that's what causes them to fail, by all means let them think that.
Executives don't care about what neckbeards think, the moralistic fedora outrage about it feeds into the problem.
We already know that shit is a red flag because the kind of people who feel the need to put that kind of shit in media aren't prioritising telling good stories.
It's fricking Disney trying to sell you another Toy Story continuation for a series that's "ended" three times, is your priority really "KILL ALL THE GAYS AND THE homosexualS" on this? QUIT being a REDDITOR.
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>It's fricking Disney trying to sell you another Toy Story continuation for a series that's "ended" three times, is your priority really "KILL ALL THE GAYS AND THE homosexualS" on this? QUIT being a REDDITOR.
The frick mate?
2 years ago
Anonymous
He thinks 'Redditor' is the ultimate slur here despite it being a complete inversion of the sentiment that'd be found there and him being the one deflecting any hand his personal flavor of degeneracy would have had in financial loss. It's funny because he mentions taking the easiest option that feeds into the need for a moral high ground, but is himself oversimplifying a complex situation and disregarding a clear, objective factor that caused many international markets completely wall off the film, cutting off any means of profit in those locations.
2 years ago
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>a complete inversion of the sentiment that'd be found there
What? Reddit is now notorious for having exactly the kind of dumb-as-dirt right wingers and internet reactionaries we accuse /misc/ of having. "Chuds." Neo-Nazis, even. Trad LARPers. How far back does your memory of Reddit stretch? Are you mentally stuck in 2012? Legit, what is your mental conception of Reddit? You haven't looked at what they're doing in a VERY long time if you think they're soft, effete "love and peace on planet Earth" types that were 100% on-board with the dyke kiss.
2 years ago
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>we
Feel free to go back.
2 years ago
Anonymous
/misc/ and /new/ have been a site butt-monkey for longer than you've been posting. Don't defend their honor or everybody will think you've got a Confederate flag pinned to your wall.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Reddit is now notorious for having exactly the kind of dumb-as-dirt right wingers and internet reactionaries we accuse /misc/ of having.
No it isn't you revisionist frick lol. They had ONE group of le based and redpilled /misc/tard lites and they were immediately censored and kicked off the site. Seriously, what fricking bizarro world did you come from if you think that the stereotypical redditor is a right winger?
2 years ago
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>They had ONE group of le based and redpilled /misc/tard lites
r/the_donald was one of the biggest subreddits on the site while it was active and it spilled over into the rest of Reddit. >immediately
"Immediately" is not more than a year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Donald was so big it got banned and started its own social media site.
Frick off.
No, based has a fricking meaning and I'm going to own that meaning regardless of what a limp-wristed cuck like you has to say.
2 years ago
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>based has a fricking meaning
"Based" came from a rapped named Lil' B who calls himself "based god." Crying about Black folk and the proper meaning of "based" is very funny.
2 years ago
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Lil B was also a parody of rap but most people don't realize that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>white people stealing culture yet again
2 years ago
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"We "
Go back to your discord, incel
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Executives don't care about what neckbeards think
That outrage has been their entire marketing strategy for a decade
2 years ago
Anonymous
They don't actually care what you think, this isn't incompatible with relying on their outrage to serve as word-of-mouth.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Their marketing strategy doesn't seem to be working since they have to keep dissolving developers and only make money on their laziest cash grabs (and only when using near slave labor).
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Executives don't care about what neckbeards think
That outrage has been their entire marketing strategy for a decade
>anybody who thinks this artstyle is bad (it kinda objectively is) must be a neckbeard
2 years ago
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>the developers don't care what i think >i am on Ganker but not a neckbeard because memes told me i'm a gigachad >therefore,
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are you even saying? It's not just Ganker; but I have a feeling you can't make a genuine argument even if you tried
2 years ago
Anonymous
"ARGUE WITH MEEEEEE THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT" is why you're a neckbeard
2 years ago
Anonymous
You seriously think it's just neckbeards who think that art style is ugly? You could show it to a soccer mom and she'd probably have trouble parsing what she was looking at
2 years ago
Anonymous
you can be directly told "i am not arguing with you" and you will still try to argue
shave your neckbeard
2 years ago
Anonymous
I shaved yesterday morning. You're moronic and clearly seething
2 years ago
Anonymous
Way to prove their point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're on Ganker too, buddy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and everyone on here needs a reminder sometimes that they're not the gigachad all the memes told them they are since "i am a neckbeard" as Ganker's characterization of itself has fallen out of style
We already know that shit is a red flag because the kind of people who feel the need to put that kind of shit in media aren't prioritising telling good stories.
It was banned in a dozen+ countries and had its age rating pushed up in other circumstances. Its international bottom line and audience were slashed. Regardless of the reason, it's a flop. Congrats to the husk of a studio that is Pixar post-Lasseter.
Its amazing how many movies with homosexual shit just happen to also flop, keep living in denial homosexual >redditor
trying too hard to fit in, back to the whatever shit site you originate.
>did lightyear fail because it was bad > > > >no, it flopped because it had queermosexuals kissing
This is why I am calling you a Redditor, you've taken the easiest option that feeds into your need for moral high-ground.
2 years ago
Anonymous
have a nice day aberration of nature.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>put homosexual shit in kids movies >complain when parents don't pay you to take their kids to watch your homosexual shit
have a nice day.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just because it failed to provide what anyone wanted out of it story-wise and wasn't something anyone was asking for doesn't mean it didn't flop entirely because of something very few people care about.
>Lightyear flopped because it sucked
That has never stopped Disney movies.
Just look at the MCU, biggest movie franchise on earth, and only has like 3-4 movies that aren´t complete shit.
MCU has a lot of mediocre or at least OK movies and a few great ones. Very few of them are actual trash. And that is the important bit. You can push mediocre garbage for years, as long as you don't actually produce absolute trash.
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Especially since people are still hesitant to go to theaters.
You're aspects of taste are delusional if that's your understanding of complete shit. Even the worst MCU movies like Captain Marvel or Eternals are at worse just mediocre or average.
I haven't watched them but I think it's the fact that the team actually listened to the fan outcry about the horrid looking design of Sonic, promised to correct it, and followed through sincerely. They got Tyson Hesse involved as well, so they weren't just playing it by ear when they started fixing it up.
That is extremely based, a lot of money was lost in the process by a lot of people and it ended up returning the investment several times over and ensuring the art direction for later films.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, being based is hating Black folk, liberal women, and liberal ideals. Fascism is extremely based, Sonic 2 has a fricking Black person voicing Knuckles
2 years ago
Anonymous
Frick off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, being based is hating Black folk
Better not look up who invented the term.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>when you fall for the propaganda
Just like Pepe is an alt-right/neo-nazi hate symbol, yeah?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Better question is whether or not anyone gives a shit if the cartoon frog is a alt-right/neo-nazi hate symbol?
The ugly Sonic design (that later got reused for a Chip & Dale movie as a joke, specifically titling him "Ugly Sonic") was changed because of massive fan backlash. It also apparently put the animating companies behind the first movie out of business from the associated crunch, and they got as far as printing off merchandise for the ugly Sonic like masks before the design got changed.
>It also apparently put the animating companies behind the first movie out of business from the associated crunch, and they got as far as printing off merchandise for the ugly Sonic like masks before the design got changed.
That’s not what happened. What happened was MPC shut down their Vancouver studio because it was cheaper to open up another studio in a different part of the world. Corporate greed killed MPC Vancouver, not crunching on Sonic and Cats, and the shitty Lion King remake but for SOME REASON journos only ever bring up the Sonic crunch although that probably didn’t help
Spartans now get brainwashed to not know they were kidnapped as children
Chief shows his face 90% of the time
Cortana gets cucked
A Human woman gets a high position in the covenant
Everyone is moronic
Show focuses on some dumb ass kid guilt tripping Chief
CGI sucks ass
Halsey is too young
Ron Gilbert should be allowed to make the game he wants to make. He should also get spit-roasted by everyone on the planet for using this art style. If he's dense enough not to realize all the reasons people think the art sucks, that's him and his yes-men's problem.
A lot of people didn't like how CMI looked, but it was undeniably well done art. EMI's character models look like shit but fans moved on. TMI had a nice style but mediocre implementation. Maybe in 5 years people will say RMI's art wasn't that bad, or that the puzzles/music/story are so good you put up with the art.
>EMI's character models look like shit but fans moved on
That was a disaster too. Give it 20 years and everyone will have moved on from this artistic rape too.
How in the living frick did Gilbert look at the art style of the right and said 'yep this looks good, this will make a great successor to Monkey's Island'
Ron has always liked ugly art. He doesn't like the squishy, round cartoon style of Day of the Tentacle or CMI and he doesn't care about realism. He likes the slightly grotesque and asymmetrical. He probably looked at RMI and was like *chef's kiss* "Now THAT's what MI should always have looked like."
He brought one of those "big" art directors, probably Ron doesn't get much about art, and just let the guy do what he does.
The thing is that looking it part by part isn't so bad, but as a whole it looks terrible.
What are the people who did the art for Monkey Island 3 doing these days, I know that was a big studio behind it but even some of these people would be preferable than this shit. This corporate globalism art is seeping into everything and its fricking disgusting, its Monkey Island not an advertisement for erection medicine just make it with a whimsical cartoony look like pic related its not hard. Why would they do this.
It's not really like those, it would be less ugly if it didn't have all the extra details on the face. Going Under is corpo flat and actually looks good for it. This is just shit.
When you do some lighting on a piece, it's not too uncommon for you to add highlights on the nose, which in certain conditions may make the tip of the nose seem redder than it would be in an evenly lit environment. Some artists began to take this a bit to the extreme, up until a lot of impressionable artists took the wrong lesson and just started painting noses red without rhyme or reason.
This might be a conspiracy theory of sorts but back in the day 2007ish and onwards there was a guy on conceptart.org who would do tutorials and he'd really amp up the red nose thing. He would later do a bunch of tutorials on youtube that were popular drawing faces that really cranked it. Obviously artists drew red noses before that but i swear it all traces back to that one guy.
or the simple explanation is that when you draw its hard to differentiate the nose from the cheeks but if its a different colour it becomes easy to delineate
They are obsessed with doing "realistic" feature in their stylized drawings
Its why so many draw ugly people, with various features and conditions
Resulting in abominations like the doki doki literature club tumblr art or that drawing where people have freckles all over their bidy
>Corporate needs you to tell the difference between the Secret to MI Carla fight scene and the Return to MI Carla fight scene. >They're the same picture.
hol' up I just solved the late game meta plot twist
So the first two games were the overactive imaginations of a kid playing pirate, right?
And it looks like that Brown Bear Brown Bear story book, right?
It's going to be the meta-fictional Guybrush, a grown man, telling a pirate story to his kids
Ron Gilbert is going to call us all a bunch of bitter manchildren when this is all said and done lmao
Black person, I posted that like three threads ago.
It’s his scrapbook. And they’re gonna “ashamed of your words and your deeds” us, as though because there’s a reason for it, the art somehow magically isn’t hideous.
>the pirate council used to be three gregarious, rude old men who would send Guybrush on pointless quests because they never thought he'd be able to become a pirate
>the nu-devs didn't understand that the original council was marked "The Very Important Pirate Leaders" because that is how Guybrush saw them, when in reality they weren't important and did nothing of not, with the humour of Guybrush doing their quests coming from the fact that he never needed their approval to call himself a pirate
Look how the dude made the character be a bunch of straight lines, with the hat being completely vertically aligned with the face. But after he added the bullshit "lighting effect" on the hair, the hat no longer aligned, so he just made it slope outwards.
What the frick is this absolute design hell? It feels like nothing at any point had any thought or care put into it.
Unironically, Pirates of the Caribbean 1 was the leftover of the original Disney animated script for Secret of Monkey Island movie, they just reused the cast for the live action.
>modern feminism,
You are so out of touch it's funny if you think feminism is relevant to modern day, the most attention it gets is JK Rowling making an ass out of herself on Twitter.
>Unironically, Pirates of the Caribbean 1 was the leftover of the original Disney animated script for Secret of Monkey Island movie, they just reused the cast for the live action.
no?
Nope, Black Pearl is what was left of the original movie script and concepts for the Monkey Island movie, which also includes Barbosa being Le Chuck and Orlando Bloom's character being Guybrush.
When the movie was cancelled, Disney reused the concepts of it to make Black Pearl.
The sheer disbelief that he received death threats, because he didn't post them (why would he? you wouldn't believe it if he did), on the part of a website that regularly tells everyone in it to kill themselves and thinks minorities should kill themselves en masse, is extremely strange.
>on the part of a website that regularly tells everyone in it to kill themselves and thinks minorities should kill themselves en masse
Most people who would post those wouldn't consider them to be "death threats". They're more "death requests".
things like that are death threats in the same sense slapping your friend in the back of the head because he said something stupid is aggravated assault
the same goes for some stupid fricking DM by a bored butthole who doesn't like thing X
You do realize it doesn't matter what your actual intent behind posting "have a nice day" on Ganker is, you're still posting "have a nice day". The "boys will be boys" mentality doesn't apply on the rest of the internet.
You're fricking moronic and should have a nice day if you think someone on an anonymous imageboard telling you to walk off a short pier is a death threat.
You can claim it's harassment like a whiny b***h but claiming he's threatening to kill you is Black personhomosexual behavior. By the way, did I mention you should have a nice day, preferably by violent self-mutilation?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if you think someone on an anonymous imageboard
the fact that you're not telling everyone on the internet to kill themselves at all other times you would on Ganker is a tacit admission you shouldn't be doing that >harassment like a whiny b***h
ooooo anon your kuckles are so hairy, your balls hang so low and your voice is so deep, i can't NOT frick you, MMMMM you even said Black personhomosexual i am SO hard right now
2 years ago
Anonymous
Know I tell you to have a nice day if we were using Twitter or some other Black person social. That's why I'm permanently banned and IP banned from the service.
Makes sense that you have a humiliation fetish but I wasn't joking, you should unironically slit your jugular with a razor blade.
2 years ago
Anonymous
being an internet tough-guy everywhere you go sounds mentally exhausting
2 years ago
Anonymous
It really is... what's worse is when I run into Black folk like you in nightclubs and I have to glass a c**t.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Please be nice to c**ts.
You wouldn't want people thinking you're gay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i remember a guy on tumblr who posted exactly like you and would brag about how he was rich, had a hot traditional wife, and would beat anybody on the prissy commie website in a fight
he'd lose arguments he started himself constantly and start bragging about how rich he was and how hot his trad wife was when he knew he was losing and eventually got banned for going team neo-nazi a bit too hard
I know your entire ideology relies on redefining words and pretending X is Y, but the real world doesn't work like that. You are a dishonest, immature child.
I read the blog before he took it down. Out of 100 post that reacted negatively about the artstyle, maybe 2 or three of them came from unhinged people saying that Ron is an awful human being, or that he should kill himself. That isn't the problem, there's always a small percentages of sperg's who are going to do that, this is the goddamn internet after all.
The problem is that this very small minority of posts was cherry picked and used as an example of ALL of the negative response, and Ron's butthurt has made the emotional response to his "internet bullying" a means of being able to disregard all criticism of the artstyle. There's no coincidence that within only hours there was an article on Kotaku talking about how evil the so-called fans of games are, complete with a comment section full of braindead NPC's who did no more research than reading a headline. Ron must have had to deal with negative commentary before, the guy made Thimbleweed Park, after all. The hook here is that he's taking it personally, and now is making it a marketing ploy.
I had already lost respect for Ron, so the biggest casualty for me here was Dominic Armato, who I thought was a pretty chill guy until he started going on full damage control, and making up terms like Retro-Fascist. Guy needs to go back to binge eating flaming hot cheetos at the AZ State fair.
"Tumblr nose" is a meme on Tumblr too. Actually almost all "Tumblr art" is a colossal meme there, like RCDart's trans Captain America and trans Tony Stark that frick eachother and have no real gender identity crises.
If you want to be really depressed take a look at the trailer and the recent screenshots released. >replaced the three important looking pirates with diversity hires >the one black woman in the original game is front and center beyond the actual protag >more screenshots of some new troon character than guybrush
No, that's just the twist ending of MI2 that immediately also shows it's LeChuck's trickery. (all a joke based on how much they cribbed from the original PotC disneyland ride)
They were always adventure stories with humorous elements.
You're oversimplifying.
Monkey Island 1 and 2 all have weird seemingly random jokes that fit very well with the twist ending of 2.
And the "LeChuck looks at camera" part was added last minute in case they could do a sequel. It was not Gilbert's original vision. (The twist was also meant to be at the end of the first game)
Neither are.
They're both character splash art.
If one wanted to make a judgement based on those, they could.
Perosnally I'm pretty happy in-game Guybrush never actually looked like he did on the left in OP's pic. That would've been a little much.
And luckily, in-game Guybrsh doesn't really look as awkward as he does on the right either.
I don't really like the obviously downscaled photos they used for the portraits, just look at that difference in quality and style between her face and the accessories.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They're not photos. They're paintings that were digitized by hand by a non-artist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sssh, he doesn't need to know that developing video games used to actually require skills in both software and art production.
Seriously don't tell him about how they developed their own file management system exclusively for sprite animations. He's from an age where almost everyone uses Unity or Unreal
This 'controversy' is more popular than the game at this point. Why even bother when you know it's going to fail anyways? It'll be forgotten the week it's released. Ron is a just a boomer hack past his prime.
It most likely won't.
But people will convince themselves it did even if it doesn't. Because they like seeing the world conform to their preferences. Makes everything click for them.
I had hopes after the original reveal and after TP, the issues it had aside.
But everything shown about this since has just been so wrong and demoralizing and the art style is only like 1/3rd of what's wrong with it.
That's depressing to hear, guess if I want to experience the classic I need to find It, I hope the original can be played despite the anti piracy measures of back then (which I assume It has)
>I got some death threats so I'm gonna take my ball and go home, punishing fans who would have enjoyed seeing more of the game
What a moron, this guy is sixty and still can't handle the internet.
The swordmaster in Monkey 1 was a black woman
I guess people like you were mad even 32 years ago
oh wait, you weren't around 32 years ago and the world was better
That was with words, where it makes sense that a waman can beat the cracker's ass.
Nowadays stronk waman beat men's ass during physical confrontation, which is what the post was about.
That wasn't what he meant and you know it. There is a world of difference between a black character and a token Black person made solely to have one in a work of media. Back then they were just another character, but today they would be a virtue signal.
They weren't obnoxious about it and she certainly didn't feel out of place in a pirates adventure.
She was portrayed as the best sword fighter on the island and other characters would tell you about how cool she is, but you still had to defeat her in order to beat the game.
>best sword fighter
None of that was actual sword fighting.
It was about words and insults, which women are best in.
And that's why that actually made sense, cracker.
You take things too literally.
It was also sword fighting, that's why Guybrush needed to be trained before being told about the insults.
Why would you try to make yourself look interesting on an anonymous image board?
No, it wasn't.
If you would have actually played it, the only thing that mattered were words. There were no fight controls at all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it is a graphic adventure, not an action game. They added the insults gimmick that also happened to be fun, but Guybrush still had to train in order to be a good sword fighter. I know precisely I've played the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Indiana Jones 3+4 were also graphic adventures, but they had fighting controls and mechanics.
COPE
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only one coping is you buddy
2 years ago
Anonymous
>claim bullshit about muh adventure games >get proven factually incorrect >haha, you are coping, I was just wrong
Ron Gilbert is a washed up boomer dev who made mostly literal children games for the last 30 years, and only two mediocre ones in the last 10.
Everyone's sucking his dick just because he brought MI back, despite everything about it shown so far sending off massive warning sirens. Falling back on the "internet critics were mean" defense is just pathetic.
See the little homosexual with the earring and the make up
Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair
That little homosexual got his own video game
That little homosexual, he's a millionaire
Technicolor SA went out of business and was in charge of the Sonic movie's effects.
Ugly Sonic had statuettes and Halloween masks planned for release that never saw markets.
Apologize for what?
I loved the Deponia series even the ending which seemed to make everyone else seethe for whatever reason, and I found Doomsday just telling the player to stop being a homosexual and accept Goodbye's ending to be hilarious.
>At the end of the original Deponia trilogy, Rufus (the protaginist) dies in an act of self sacrifice to save his love interest and the world although he really only cared about her. >Tons of people hated this ending because they wanted a more typical happy ending. >So much whining prompts the studio to make a sequel called Doomsday. >Involves Love interest using a time machine to save the protagonist from his death >After an entire game worth of time travel shenanigans the protagonist ends up dying in exactly the same way for exactly the same reasons >The narrator then calls you a whiny little b***h for wanting a different ending >They made an entire fourth game just to troll the fans.
porn games are in vogue. If niche shit like black souls can get threads on the regular on one of the most popular western websites in the world, why cant leasure suit larry make a comeback? Even half baked WEGs are making 140k a year for a 1/2 person dev team.
>regular height Laffer >not even ugly by any standards >small-titted middling roastie prostitutes are the "babes" of the game >he can barely even get those
Yes you turd burglar, that is exactly the point. Larry is a limp-dicked midget man in a moth-eaten unfashionable suit who wants to get with literal 12/10 amazon warrioresses.
It's funny because they are so beyond his league he doesn't even register as a bug on the collective windshield of femininity and yet he keeps going undeterred because he wants pussy that badly.
Comparatively nu-larry doesn't look any worse than the women in his game, and still he's having trouble getting pussy from a Belle Delphine knockoff.
>literal 12/10 amazon warrioresses
relative to him i guess, they're definitely missing the manlet joke, but i would very firmly put lsl's girls in the "bimbo" camp
Those aren't the games we're talking about and you KNOW that. We're talking about the
CrazyBunch games.
Magna Cum Laude was already a departure from the point and click games with the endless minigames and stuff. I wouldn't think of them as true Larry games.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Those aren't the games we're talking about and you KNOW that.
yes i do know that which is why i'm extremely confused you seem to think LSL ever had bombastic sex goddesses when they're all bimbos
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you seem to think LSL ever had bombastic sex goddesses
Educate yourself somewhat.
When exactly did western art die? South Park? Beavis & Butthead? At some point "it looks bad on purpose" became the defacto art. Were there earlier examples? Something happened between Snow White and Rick & Morty
>ignoring the fact that boomer shooters have seen a resurgence while point and clicks died a horrific death on newgrounds
You're not even playing a video game, you're just clicking through pages of a story. But you're so incredibly cultured because of it right?
if you look at some of the fanart out there, a lot of them look absolutely amazing. imagine if we got that, instead of this? after you've made me associate his nose with a dog's dick, i'll never be able to unsee it. what a shame.
it’s easy to see and neutral if you don’t want to use animu or clip art that have proportions too realistic, which at the same time makes it best for marketing
it’s not too detailed and is color oriented so as an artist that has some practice it’s just low level effort while still playing it safe for normie consumption, but then again it’s low effort enough that most beginners can replicate it which saturated the industry very quickly once it picked up, in 2010 you were hot shit for using it
>What's the leftist corporate art style designed for?
Nobody
there is a surplus of SJW types who all pursued art degrees saturating the market, likewise most corporations are just looking for the lowest bidder for art assets and graphic design so you have a bunch of really really shitty artists getting work for major corporations because they're willing to work for peanuts.
anyone play dracula unleashed? i had but my pc had trouble running it and was too young to understand what the frick i was supposed to be doing. worth playing?
What the frick is that?
it's called progress you chud.
Wrong, it's called regression or artistic decline.
maybe in english. we use nuspeak now.
>that date on the tweet
Wait..
So this wasn't a last minute decision because they went overbudget or something?
You're talling me this was planned beforehand ,years in fact,nearly a decade planned beforehand?And nobody thought that it might be a bad idea?
The "corporate artstyle" everybody is comparing it to didn't exist at the time.
It's not an example of that artstyle anyways. That style would have a smooth face instead of one with enough details to be ugly.
Yeah but the resemblance to it is still there nevertheless.
it began to pick up at that time in 2010, it was not as common but 2009 was the start of that trend.
if anything hes to blame for picking a trendy artstyle and then wondering why everyone is absolutely fed up with it more than 10 years later
He apparently always had dogshit art preferences.
THEN WHO THE FRICK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS !?!?
CAN'T WE GET HIM BACK?
You can't get Peter Chan back no. He charges too much for Ron or Tim to care to use him anymore.
Ron Gilbert spefically called the guy who made this to work on Art Direction. His taste is questionable.
israeli imitation.
troony propaganda
Leftism destroying yet another beloved cultural icon
a NFT
Is that the Foldable Human's new avatar?
Jews subverting our culture by making us normalized to their penis noses.
noses aren't pink
The nose of a man's body ravaged by alcoholism turns pink
israeli imitation.
mine is
Seamus?
No, Ivan.
it got circumsized
Please respect developers
Neither will I unless someone mods the game.
Many people have respectfully told them that their art style sucks. It's a shame that some morons have turned that into death threads.
>Neither will I unless someone mods the game.
That's not the sort of problem that mods can fix.
I mean assets can be swapped. You can at least remove all the dick noses and give the characters real eyes.
If it was back in the day I could totally see someone doing a demake, I remember there being some pretty impressive Monkey Island fan games.
>It's a shame that some morons have turned that into death threats
That's just a way they deflect blame as anyone who doesn't like it as evil people
Turn one bad actor or false flag as the whole so frick them
>It's a shame that some morons have turned that into death threads.
No they haven't. Stop believing this fricking cop-out excuse every time. It's always bullshit.
>threaten to not buy game
>no games bought
>no money made
>no money to buy food
>starve to death
Don't they have some sort of social security to prevent that?
>death threats
didnt happen, and even if it did. so what? as long as their name wasnt written with squiggles and you arent a homosexual nothing will happen.
morons and homosexuals deserve scorn
It’s the only way things will improve
>turned that into death threats
BASED, hope long nose homosexual “devs” turn into ash like their grandparents.
>death threats
Public figures will ALWAYS get death threats and unless it contains stuff like showing they know your adress then its a very empty one
As silly looking as the new game is, it's not even the worst looking Monkey Island.
i've reported this death threat against ron gilbert to the FBI.
No, not the heckin effbeeyerinos
moving away from pixels was a mistake
Curse was kino. Deal with it.
It’s not even about pixels, but rather just nicely drawn/painted art.
A modern game in the classic style would just be hi-res hand painted backdrops, and well-animated sprites for the characters. The original games were “pixel art” because ALL computer art was at the time. And if anything, mark(?) Ferrari’s art was pretty cutting edge.
It's great when Ganker ensures a loss for their side by getting involved in stuff in only the way Ganker can.
Could have been a civil discussion with the devs and maybe they could have been convinced but instead you idiots bandwagoned super hard and raged and attack like usual.
Oh well, none of you were going to play it anyway, or have played the previous games.
Real fans will still play it.
The response probably would have been the same with or without this site.
>Real fans will still play it.
The people that are mad about the art style are actually the real fans. If you don't have a personal attachment to the previous games, of course you wouldn't give a frick what art style they choose.
If the 1 and 2 remakes, Escape, or Tales of were the first ones you played, you're not a real fan, your opinion is irrelevant. You need to have been there in the 90's.
Could have been convinced? To change the entire artstyle in an about to release game that has been in development for 26 months? The same artstyle that the lead developer has wanted for the series since 2009?
Ganker was never going to accomplish shit dude, these threads are just commiserating and shitposting about the artistic decline of our society
Unless it was all a skit, which I doubt, that's what happened with the fist Sonic movie
>this small game studio that has only released one game so far is totally capable of doing the same thing a multibillion movie studio did
One thing is changing the 3d model of a character that you can easily replace because 60% of your movie is shot in real life enviroments
Another is making entirely new assets and redoing EVERYTHING in the art style
>yeah man maybe if people weren't so mean about it they would have changed the entire game's art style from the ground up before it releases
Kill you're self
>they could have been convinced to redraw and reanimate the entire game
exdee
>redraw and reanimate the entire game
The animation is all lazy puppet shit, so if they just made the character models less repulsive it should be reanimated automatically.
You don't know what a model rig is, do you
No the animations would still be the same lazy puppet shit
Stand back, it's a shiny moron.
This one's going in the collection!
>Ganker havimg any influence over anything
nice joke anon
Imma make a change
I like how I see this post EVERY SINGLE TIME a shitty-looking sequel is revealed.
you and me both.
Might have a point if he was tilting at us, but his comments were directed at Twitter and the comment section of his blog. Sentiment was unanimous before he pivoted to the "evil gamers" narrative.
>It's great when Ganker ensures a loss for their side
It's a point and click game in 2022, it's going to flop with or without Ganker's help.
>Real fans will still play it.
Great bait mate.
The people who’ll play it are the ones who see any criticism of authority as an opportunity to virtue signal.
Though I do wonder, given how lefty the devs are, if there will be “accessibility options” that solve all the puzzles for those bottom feeding morons
I've got the LucasArts Classic Collection, big box releases 1&2 for DOS, and the Limited run Anthology that came out a few months back. I bought 1, 2, and 3 the day they came out.
I suppose that makes me a fan. This game doesn't interest me. It looks like a reboot rather than a sequel; I don't want to replay the first game. I don't care for the lazy art style. I'm not even going to bother.
shut up and consoom new product, neo-fascist
I have no idea why the frick you can/MUST see a star on every planet in ME Legendary. Part of the charm in OG was
>colored
sky. Plus, it's not like you can see a Sun when the sky is cloudy. What they did was just apsurd.
Is that supposed to be Type-0, left of ME? (never played the game) What in the frick...?
artist have all these powerful creation tools now and it just makes them lazy and lets more incompetents into the workforce. it's like painting vs. photobashing.
The Metal Slug one literally made me feel anger
homosexuals on Ganker dont get this for movies and they do not get this for games: The people that create these "remakes" are bottom of the barrel workers that just are there to generate safe money for the company. ACTUAL creative people work on NEW stuff, just like back then. Comparing old games with their remakes is dishonest, compare them to modern masterpieces instead and you will realize nothing changed. Have a good day
>Comparing old games with their remakes is dishonest, compare them to modern masterpieces instead
why would I compare two totally different games? and not all of the games in that pic are remakes, some are brand new entries in already existing franchises and so the comparison is more than fair
several of these look better. tommy vercetti and link for example.
>the Assassin's Creed one
Everquest Next never happened.
>No Xenoblade Chronicles
One job
How they fit a game that big on the Wii, I’ll never know.
It's ok when Japs do it
They fricked up Shulk, but that's it.
They fricked up over half the characters. Reyn is the biggest artistic rape of the main ones.
Why?
Have you checked the original drawings from the official art book?
Shulk is not supposed to have blonde hair.
The hair of Reyn is fine.
shulk's face looks photoshopped in
these MI threads got me in a point-and-click mood, playing toonstruck rn. What could revive this genre anons? Did watching walkthrough/streams kill the genre for good?
>Did watching walkthrough/streams kill the genre for good?
Zoomers are lazy and have a really short attention span. They want action, explosions and instant gratification. They don't like games where you can get stuck and are forced to think for yourself. They rely on others (or their "smart" phones) to do the thinking for them.
One nuke and society falls apart..
The great reset.
God I spent fricking ages convinced those crabs must be useful for something.
Some of this is true but not entirety. It's true that games nowadays prefer difficulty like in Dark Souls where you can brute force your way through ever challenge rather than play the game where you can get stuck forever.
But there were other issues as well. They lack replayability. In majority of titles your every playthrough will be exactly the same no matter what and there isn't any play a fun challenge runs. Also there wasn't much innovation in the genre over the years. The core gameplay in new pnc adventurers is very similar to the one in Lucas Arts and Sierra games.
Also, the core gameplay has issues. It devolves too often into trying to guess what the game creators wanted you to do in this particular moment. In other games there are multiple solutions to all problems. You encounter enemies in an RPG. You try one strategy, it doesn't work, you try different one, it works a bit better, then you improve the second strategy and win the encounter. In PnC adventures you just have to know and the game doesn't really provide any feedback. Either your solution works or it doesn't.
>It devolves too often into trying to guess what the game creators wanted
I actually like that aspect of it, cause it keeps me thinking and makes the payoff all the better if you figured out what you need to do. I wouldn't have nearly as much fun playing a point and click if I didn't get stuck at all.
>It devolves too often into trying to guess what the game creators wanted you to do in this particular moment.
I'm still annoyed at Deponia Doomsday having a thing you have to pick up by repeatedly ignoring the game acting like it's a generic item you can't pick up. There's a "hint" but it's really hard to pick up on it until you've already solved the puzzle. At least the music puzzle required an option you had from the start. I can't recommend these games to people who aren't already huge fans of the genre because of this shit.
This is what happens when shitty parental education, modern feminism, daycares and babysitters, the lack of beating your kids for being idiots and depending on daddy state does to an entire generation.
>modern feminism,
You are so out of touch it's funny if you think feminism is relevant to modern day, the most attention it gets is JK Rowling making an ass out of herself on Twitter.
just because you think something and say it does not make it so
Kids are "educated" by smartphones these days.
And you were "educated" by a desktop, which isn't actually better.
That's much better actually. Smartphones are designed for morons, PCs are for people who know what they're doing.
>Smartphones are designed for morons,
There's something to be said on this for the app-based structure, but something tells me you don't actually use smartphones all that often.
They are called smartphones, because they are meant for "smart" people.
They are also called CELLphones, because....
You can figure it out.
>unironically thought CELLphones were for cell people for a moment
I'm fricking moronic
>for cell people
No, that's not it, but you are close.
Yeah, depends on how you were raised, my family was poor so my first consoles were N64 and PS1...
To be fair, I used to do this but with gamefaqs 20 years ago. Once the internet became big enough, no one wanted to be stuck at a certain level for hours on end just because the developers felt like making it superdy dooper confusing.
Guys I made a really funny post and it would mean the world to me if you all responded to it.
>What could revive this genre anons?
devs should find inspiration from something other than 90's lucas arts and sierra. art, writing, puzzles and humor are going to feel tired if you're the hundredth person to copy them.
pic related is imo the best point and click ever. good characters, branching plot, puzzles that make sense in the setting, great atmosphere. I'd kill for another espionage game this good.
Is it funny?
>these MI threads got me in a point-and-click mood
Play YU-NO. The original. Not the remake.
It's a genuine masterpiece.
Is this just a visual novel or does it have actual puzzles?
It has actual puzzle like puzzles with buttons, symbols, and numbers and such things.
But it also relies on some degree of detective work from the player where it wants you pay attention to and identify various similarities and or inconsistencies between the various branching paths in order to find out how to access new branching paths.
It's genuinely an extremely cool game. A real point & click adventure.
Just a pro tip. Stay clear away from any potential guides that are commonly bundled with most distributions of the game online. They ruin the experience. Just click on everything, guideless, and you'll have a great time.
>What could revive this genre anons?
Sales.
Any studio that get big enough is just going to drop it for something with higher potential sales. Daedalic doesn't even make point & clicks anymore and ALL of their revenue for the first few years was off point & clicks.
This guy gets it. The reality should've set in when Telltale- a company formed by publicly declaring LucasArts as, and I quote, "betrayers"- dropped the genre to make decision-and-consequence 'narrative experiences'.
>What could revive this genre anons?
Play Deponia.
It's simlar to LucasArts adventures, is very hilarious and even has Solid fricking Hayter Snake.
>is very hilarious
A few chuckles and some mild exhales through your teeth at most. There's no witty wordplay or funny setup/payoff moments.
You sound fun at parties.
And you sound like you aren't invited to parties.
I hate people, okay?
Did I tell you about my scars?
Your scars??
I -AM- MY SCARS
My father was a drinker.
One night he goes off, sticks a knife into my mouth and says why so serious?
You think that's rough?
My father was a gamer...
Sorry, that your father was gay.
It's okay. He died from ligma.
You were lucky, he could have died of AIDS.
Yes Jack, you tell us about it every time we meet. It's time to let go of the past.
I was interested until you mentioned Hayter
Frick that hack loser
Not him but I'd imagine it's not like someone who hates Jack Black playing Brutal Legend. Probably a tertiary character voiced by him. Anyways if you turn your nose up at a game over something so petty you don't deserve good games anyways
>What could revive this genre anons?
I say the same thing for other "dead" genres like shmup's. They're still being made and they have their audience but if they want to get mainstream appeal they'd need to expand on the core ideas of the genre without just turning into a different genre. The beauty in gaming is that you don't really need to follow genre rules, you're just expected.
So to make point-and-click or traditional adventure games come back they'd need to find interesting ways of addressing the usual things that might drive people away.
You could probably make a more swashbuckling high flying adventure Monkey Island while still keeping the core aspect of talking to people and puzzle solving although I imagine it could be seen as too big a departure from the "formula".
No, graphic adventures were already long dead before streaming was mainstream.
Part of it was unable to make the transition to 3D, part of it was consoles being mainstream (PnC is clunky AF), part of it were other genres being made popular.
But also is that graphic adventures are one hell of a beast to tame, everything had to stick together and being planned beforehand, story, characters, locations, puzzles, everything was in play to make the best thing possible. It's not like other genres where you can get basic systems right and then make modular levels.
They started streamlining games too much, from Syberia that was basically a browser game (puzzles were mostly clicking around). I hate to be that guy, but most narrative adventures grabbed the best parts of graphic adventures, but most of them still aren't as good as the good old school adventures.
BTW the latest Syberia is amazing.
Yesterday I was playing Memento Mori 2, everything is pretty OK if you don't mind some jank, but everything seems to have like 10 steps for doing a simple thing. I had to watch a walkthrough just to know how the story went.
Play:
Og hero’s quest and quest for glory
Kings quest 5&6
Monkey island 1,2&3
Primordia
Strangeland
Unavowed
Gemini rue
Chains of satinav
The longest journey
Deponia
The dig
Full throttle
The Indy series
Kyrandia 1&2
Grim fandango
Gabriel knight series
Phantasmagoria series
Kathy rain
Lamplight city
Whispers of a machine
Machinarium
Laura bow series
Not all of them are amazing, and you’ll love or hate shit depending on your tastes of course.
solid list. I would add broken sword 1-2, simon the sorcerer 1-2, runaway, tony tough, i have no mouth and I must scream, sanitarium, stasis.
>broken sword 1-2
Broken Sword 5 is great too.
Classic art style.
agreed, but 3 and 4 can be skipped
I stopped listing cos I was sitting outside and it was cold
Based. The best version of the first one is the ega one, 3 is blatantly unfinished, and 5 is fricking weird, but all of them are worth a play.
I stopped listing them, but yeah definitely
Frick DotT and frick maniac mansion. And most of all, frick thimbleweed park. All those shitty games suck. The humour is unfunny, the swapping characters gets old as frick, but mostly because the puzzles are asinine. cat moustache or belt buckle outhouse tier.
Maybe I’d add that beatboxing tumour head guy one if you do really like dumb unfunny shit though.
>3 is blatantly unfinished
https://github.com/AshLancer/QFG3-Fan-Patch
Legend! Saved.
Or just play it using ScummVM, which has tons of script bug fixes built-in and will apply them automatically.
QfG series is currently on sale on GOG.
No Sam and Max: Hit the Road?
>No Day of the Tentacle
>but the crappy The Dig
Dropped
>Gabriel Knight Series
No, only the first 2. Better only the very first, which is a classic. The 2nd is a FMV game.
3 is a great game, it gets ragged by the 3d graphics and one shitty puzzle (also people don't know you can teleport).
>playing toonstruck rn.
ouch, I wish I could discover that game again
Now look at them yo-yos
That's the way you do it
WE GOT TO INSTALL MICROWAVE OVENS
I know the song and all that, but why do people keep quoting it?
13 years, eh? That's sad. I bet some people told him to reconsider, but he didn't listen.
>I know the song and all that, but why do people keep quoting it?
Ask me how I know you're faceblind
I changed my makeup. Did you notice?
>tfw no escape from monkey Island written by suda51
In the name of Harman
Ganker is unironically Streisand affecting this game so that SJWs who never grew up with the original play it, including game journos who will give it a 10/10 and then everyone will be playing it
I hope you're right for your own sake, Ron
Devolver has a sales expectation to meet...
>Streisand
wat
Bringing attention to something by trying to bury it
Seems a stretch to claim they are trying to bury it.
Underage or ESL?
>Ganker
lol twitter and his own blog is the reason they're trying to co-ordinate a gamergate narrative around it.
And no, there was no public death threats. His blog, including the comments about the art style, are all cached.
It's been proven a million times that the SJWs who keep shouting about women and LGBT in games don't actually play or buy games.
Very likely the ones defending this shit don't either.
lol no. Monkey Island is a classic and is a posterboy for the P&C genre. There's no way this wouldn't have blown up with or without the artstyle, Ganker, or any other factor. As long as humans can communicate, this would have blown up.
This. It was literally the most famous PC game of all time before Doom came out.
What was his name again?
Guycrush Seedgood?
guychuck sneedwood
Is "extremely slow walk and talk detective thriller" its own subgenre of these games
It's draw it again but backwards
>soul
>soulless
What does the unfunny response refer to? How is that a wtf situation. They got better at drawing.
It's tumblr, self improvement is fricking impossible in their mind.
For a lot of people seing anyone improve OVER 4 FRICKING YEARS, seems to be incomprehensible apparently.
That is a big improvement, but I don't think that fox girl was his peak in 2010
It is unfortunately incomprehensible to me.
That kind of improvement over 4 years is the impressive part. Art is hard, drawing is hard, painting is hard. You can paint along with Bob Ross but it won't look like Bob Ross's work.
>weebs amazed at photobashing
heh
guyberg threepstein
I'm positively suprised over the backlash over this globohomosexual artstyle being revealed for Monkey Island. It's a similar kind of reaction people had to the sonic movie, so negative it pretty much forces the devs to re-evaluate the design. It's good to see that public opinion can work as a form of quality control, 'cause holy shit that style is revolting in every way.
>so negative it pretty much forces the devs to re-evaluate the design
Not a chance for this one unfortunately. The lead dev seems to have tied his ego to the style and will die before admitting it was a mistake.
That's because it's simply not a mistake to him. He likes it. The issue is that it is so heavily stylized that is pretty much forces extreme responses, and he can't deal with that.
Unfortunately they have not learned anything from sonic
you should add the "lightyear" movie to that
financial disaster on the level of the "good dinosaur"
Seriously? I didn't keep up with it but that's quite interesting to hear, especially after Buzz's voice actor's comments when hearing about non-degenerate countries banning the movie.
Lightyear flopped because it sucked, it didn't flop because of the lesbian kiss. Quit being a Redditor.
If it makes executives stop forcing homosexualry into every game and movie because they think that's what causes them to fail, by all means let them think that.
Executives don't care about what neckbeards think, the moralistic fedora outrage about it feeds into the problem.
It's fricking Disney trying to sell you another Toy Story continuation for a series that's "ended" three times, is your priority really "KILL ALL THE GAYS AND THE homosexualS" on this? QUIT being a REDDITOR.
>It's fricking Disney trying to sell you another Toy Story continuation for a series that's "ended" three times, is your priority really "KILL ALL THE GAYS AND THE homosexualS" on this? QUIT being a REDDITOR.
The frick mate?
He thinks 'Redditor' is the ultimate slur here despite it being a complete inversion of the sentiment that'd be found there and him being the one deflecting any hand his personal flavor of degeneracy would have had in financial loss. It's funny because he mentions taking the easiest option that feeds into the need for a moral high ground, but is himself oversimplifying a complex situation and disregarding a clear, objective factor that caused many international markets completely wall off the film, cutting off any means of profit in those locations.
>a complete inversion of the sentiment that'd be found there
What? Reddit is now notorious for having exactly the kind of dumb-as-dirt right wingers and internet reactionaries we accuse /misc/ of having. "Chuds." Neo-Nazis, even. Trad LARPers. How far back does your memory of Reddit stretch? Are you mentally stuck in 2012? Legit, what is your mental conception of Reddit? You haven't looked at what they're doing in a VERY long time if you think they're soft, effete "love and peace on planet Earth" types that were 100% on-board with the dyke kiss.
>we
Feel free to go back.
/misc/ and /new/ have been a site butt-monkey for longer than you've been posting. Don't defend their honor or everybody will think you've got a Confederate flag pinned to your wall.
>Reddit is now notorious for having exactly the kind of dumb-as-dirt right wingers and internet reactionaries we accuse /misc/ of having.
No it isn't you revisionist frick lol. They had ONE group of le based and redpilled /misc/tard lites and they were immediately censored and kicked off the site. Seriously, what fricking bizarro world did you come from if you think that the stereotypical redditor is a right winger?
>They had ONE group of le based and redpilled /misc/tard lites
r/the_donald was one of the biggest subreddits on the site while it was active and it spilled over into the rest of Reddit.
>immediately
"Immediately" is not more than a year.
The Donald was so big it got banned and started its own social media site.
No, based has a fricking meaning and I'm going to own that meaning regardless of what a limp-wristed cuck like you has to say.
>based has a fricking meaning
"Based" came from a rapped named Lil' B who calls himself "based god." Crying about Black folk and the proper meaning of "based" is very funny.
Lil B was also a parody of rap but most people don't realize that
>white people stealing culture yet again
"We "
Go back to your discord, incel
>Executives don't care about what neckbeards think
That outrage has been their entire marketing strategy for a decade
They don't actually care what you think, this isn't incompatible with relying on their outrage to serve as word-of-mouth.
Their marketing strategy doesn't seem to be working since they have to keep dissolving developers and only make money on their laziest cash grabs (and only when using near slave labor).
>anybody who thinks this artstyle is bad (it kinda objectively is) must be a neckbeard
>the developers don't care what i think
>i am on Ganker but not a neckbeard because memes told me i'm a gigachad
>therefore,
What are you even saying? It's not just Ganker; but I have a feeling you can't make a genuine argument even if you tried
"ARGUE WITH MEEEEEE THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT" is why you're a neckbeard
You seriously think it's just neckbeards who think that art style is ugly? You could show it to a soccer mom and she'd probably have trouble parsing what she was looking at
you can be directly told "i am not arguing with you" and you will still try to argue
shave your neckbeard
I shaved yesterday morning. You're moronic and clearly seething
Way to prove their point.
You're on Ganker too, buddy.
and everyone on here needs a reminder sometimes that they're not the gigachad all the memes told them they are since "i am a neckbeard" as Ganker's characterization of itself has fallen out of style
We already know that shit is a red flag because the kind of people who feel the need to put that kind of shit in media aren't prioritising telling good stories.
It was banned in a dozen+ countries and had its age rating pushed up in other circumstances. Its international bottom line and audience were slashed. Regardless of the reason, it's a flop. Congrats to the husk of a studio that is Pixar post-Lasseter.
It bombed in the countries where it was allowed anyways. It sucked.
Its amazing how many movies with homosexual shit just happen to also flop, keep living in denial homosexual
>redditor
trying too hard to fit in, back to the whatever shit site you originate.
>did lightyear fail because it was bad
>
>
>
>no, it flopped because it had queermosexuals kissing
This is why I am calling you a Redditor, you've taken the easiest option that feeds into your need for moral high-ground.
have a nice day aberration of nature.
>put homosexual shit in kids movies
>complain when parents don't pay you to take their kids to watch your homosexual shit
have a nice day.
Just because it failed to provide what anyone wanted out of it story-wise and wasn't something anyone was asking for doesn't mean it didn't flop entirely because of something very few people care about.
>Lightyear flopped because it sucked
That has never stopped Disney movies.
Just look at the MCU, biggest movie franchise on earth, and only has like 3-4 movies that aren´t complete shit.
MCU has a lot of mediocre or at least OK movies and a few great ones. Very few of them are actual trash. And that is the important bit. You can push mediocre garbage for years, as long as you don't actually produce absolute trash.
Especially since people are still hesitant to go to theaters.
Most MCU movies are mid, not bad. They're safe, which is also why Disney flogs them as hard as they do.
You're aspects of taste are delusional if that's your understanding of complete shit. Even the worst MCU movies like Captain Marvel or Eternals are at worse just mediocre or average.
Complete shit is anything I don't like.
The Sonic movies are attrocious.
What is based about the sonic movies?
I haven't watched them but I think it's the fact that the team actually listened to the fan outcry about the horrid looking design of Sonic, promised to correct it, and followed through sincerely. They got Tyson Hesse involved as well, so they weren't just playing it by ear when they started fixing it up.
But that isn't being based.
That is extremely based, a lot of money was lost in the process by a lot of people and it ended up returning the investment several times over and ensuring the art direction for later films.
No, being based is hating Black folk, liberal women, and liberal ideals. Fascism is extremely based, Sonic 2 has a fricking Black person voicing Knuckles
Frick off.
>No, being based is hating Black folk
Better not look up who invented the term.
>when you fall for the propaganda
Just like Pepe is an alt-right/neo-nazi hate symbol, yeah?
Better question is whether or not anyone gives a shit if the cartoon frog is a alt-right/neo-nazi hate symbol?
leave underage newbie
The ugly Sonic design (that later got reused for a Chip & Dale movie as a joke, specifically titling him "Ugly Sonic") was changed because of massive fan backlash. It also apparently put the animating companies behind the first movie out of business from the associated crunch, and they got as far as printing off merchandise for the ugly Sonic like masks before the design got changed.
>It also apparently put the animating companies behind the first movie out of business from the associated crunch, and they got as far as printing off merchandise for the ugly Sonic like masks before the design got changed.
That’s not what happened. What happened was MPC shut down their Vancouver studio because it was cheaper to open up another studio in a different part of the world. Corporate greed killed MPC Vancouver, not crunching on Sonic and Cats, and the shitty Lion King remake but for SOME REASON journos only ever bring up the Sonic crunch although that probably didn’t help
So was MPC Vancouver execs at fault here? Or was their studio the one to take the heat? Not sure I’m following
MPC Montreal also crunched on cats
>fat nigress btfo glowies with gadgets stolen from a kemoshota
It can't get more based than that.
>Multiple Tails
Destiny?
No
Rouge's wet dream
They have based colonization pairing of white man and black woman, instead of the reverse.
What did Halo frick up?
their TV/streaming series, which nobody wanted, nobody was interested in, and which doesn't follow halo's plot very closely at all
Spartans now get brainwashed to not know they were kidnapped as children
Chief shows his face 90% of the time
Cortana gets cucked
A Human woman gets a high position in the covenant
Everyone is moronic
Show focuses on some dumb ass kid guilt tripping Chief
CGI sucks ass
Halsey is too young
Hahahahahahah DICK NOSE
JUST
Ron Gilbert should be allowed to make the game he wants to make. He should also get spit-roasted by everyone on the planet for using this art style. If he's dense enough not to realize all the reasons people think the art sucks, that's him and his yes-men's problem.
A lot of people didn't like how CMI looked, but it was undeniably well done art. EMI's character models look like shit but fans moved on. TMI had a nice style but mediocre implementation. Maybe in 5 years people will say RMI's art wasn't that bad, or that the puzzles/music/story are so good you put up with the art.
Good thing that good writing can save bad graphics, but it will always be "the story's great, but the graphics are awful" game
>EMI's character models look like shit but fans moved on
That was a disaster too. Give it 20 years and everyone will have moved on from this artistic rape too.
Escape from Monkey Island stopped Lucas Arts from making any more adventure games and IMO killed the genre it was that bad
Together with Gabriel Knight 3.
>10/10 story, voice acting, music
>2/10 graphics
Forget Monkey Island, someone save Gabriel Knight.
The last game by Jansen was terrible (mobius).
trust me, you don't want a new gabriel knight.
not in today's woke culture.
Gabriel Sneed
Eww
Tumblr is hell of a drug. It even has the tumblr nose
he looks so vulnerable
How in the living frick did Gilbert look at the art style of the right and said 'yep this looks good, this will make a great successor to Monkey's Island'
Shit taste in art, simple as that.
Ron has always liked ugly art. He doesn't like the squishy, round cartoon style of Day of the Tentacle or CMI and he doesn't care about realism. He likes the slightly grotesque and asymmetrical. He probably looked at RMI and was like *chef's kiss* "Now THAT's what MI should always have looked like."
He brought one of those "big" art directors, probably Ron doesn't get much about art, and just let the guy do what he does.
The thing is that looking it part by part isn't so bad, but as a whole it looks terrible.
What are the people who did the art for Monkey Island 3 doing these days, I know that was a big studio behind it but even some of these people would be preferable than this shit. This corporate globalism art is seeping into everything and its fricking disgusting, its Monkey Island not an advertisement for erection medicine just make it with a whimsical cartoony look like pic related its not hard. Why would they do this.
Ron has shit taste in art and most importantly he wont criticism and no one at the studio can tard wrangle him
Was he George Lucas'd?
Kojima'd?
what's with the obsession with irritated noses?
Reminds me of those corporate drawings
It's not really like those, it would be less ugly if it didn't have all the extra details on the face. Going Under is corpo flat and actually looks good for it. This is just shit.
The new art is bad on so many levels
why is tumbler obsessed with red noses? is it some kind of secret code that I don't understand?
When you do some lighting on a piece, it's not too uncommon for you to add highlights on the nose, which in certain conditions may make the tip of the nose seem redder than it would be in an evenly lit environment. Some artists began to take this a bit to the extreme, up until a lot of impressionable artists took the wrong lesson and just started painting noses red without rhyme or reason.
This might be a conspiracy theory of sorts but back in the day 2007ish and onwards there was a guy on conceptart.org who would do tutorials and he'd really amp up the red nose thing. He would later do a bunch of tutorials on youtube that were popular drawing faces that really cranked it. Obviously artists drew red noses before that but i swear it all traces back to that one guy.
or the simple explanation is that when you draw its hard to differentiate the nose from the cheeks but if its a different colour it becomes easy to delineate
I guess lots of them had drunktard dads, I mean look how they came out.
they are all clowns and want you to know it
Idk but I like them because It makes everyone look drunk af
They are obsessed with doing "realistic" feature in their stylized drawings
Its why so many draw ugly people, with various features and conditions
Resulting in abominations like the doki doki literature club tumblr art or that drawing where people have freckles all over their bidy
Looks just like disco elysium
Harry actually is a drunk, which helps
Frick off shill
>wow dood,they evolve their art direction instead of stagnating with the same shitty art direcrtin from 30 years ago? i'm going insane aaaaaahh
>evolve
>evolve
Does anybody have the "I did not evolve" picture?
Why is the swordmaster a gorilla now?
She was already black though
>Corporate needs you to tell the difference between the Secret to MI Carla fight scene and the Return to MI Carla fight scene.
>They're the same picture.
Secret of*
I mean the new look is magical
it get worse every time you see it
I hate the globalhomo!
I hate the globalhomo!
I hate the globalhomo!
I hate the globalhomo!
hol' up I just solved the late game meta plot twist
So the first two games were the overactive imaginations of a kid playing pirate, right?
And it looks like that Brown Bear Brown Bear story book, right?
It's going to be the meta-fictional Guybrush, a grown man, telling a pirate story to his kids
Ron Gilbert is going to call us all a bunch of bitter manchildren when this is all said and done lmao
Once we recognize the secret of Monkey Island will we feel ashamed of our words & deeds?
Gilbert and Kojima getting roasted in the same thread, love it.
Black person, I posted that like three threads ago.
It’s his scrapbook. And they’re gonna “ashamed of your words and your deeds” us, as though because there’s a reason for it, the art somehow magically isn’t hideous.
literally none of the previous games had this art style so frick off.
anyone got the English book version ?
Corpo art for the proles.
Produce of mintru double plus good comrade.
>the pirate council used to be three gregarious, rude old men who would send Guybrush on pointless quests because they never thought he'd be able to become a pirate
>the nu-devs didn't understand that the original council was marked "The Very Important Pirate Leaders" because that is how Guybrush saw them, when in reality they weren't important and did nothing of not, with the humour of Guybrush doing their quests coming from the fact that he never needed their approval to call himself a pirate
>replaced with two women and a black
Is this thing supposed to be a remake by the way? Why is it reusing so many scenes from the original game?
It's supposed to be in an amusement park, last I heard.
Member?
Look how the dude made the character be a bunch of straight lines, with the hat being completely vertically aligned with the face. But after he added the bullshit "lighting effect" on the hair, the hat no longer aligned, so he just made it slope outwards.
What the frick is this absolute design hell? It feels like nothing at any point had any thought or care put into it.
I don't hate it, especially on the feet of Telltale's Monkey Island which looked like fricking Zelda The Light of Courage.
This is kind of the "it INSISTS upon itself" of Monkey Island.
But Tales' characters looked decent, it's just that Telltale couldn't write good shaders.
They did nail Stan's jacket though
Granted that's probably easier to code than the normal way.
Telltale's characters for Monkey Island look like bootleg Pixar movie characters.
Unironically, Pirates of the Caribbean 1 was the leftover of the original Disney animated script for Secret of Monkey Island movie, they just reused the cast for the live action.
Your rainbow flag is showing.
>Unironically, Pirates of the Caribbean 1 was the leftover of the original Disney animated script for Secret of Monkey Island movie, they just reused the cast for the live action.
no?
Nope, Black Pearl is what was left of the original movie script and concepts for the Monkey Island movie, which also includes Barbosa being Le Chuck and Orlando Bloom's character being Guybrush.
When the movie was cancelled, Disney reused the concepts of it to make Black Pearl.
Now Disney owns both Pirates and Monkey Island.
For the same reason, they're using really primitive shaders/materials/lighting.
You can only dress up a turd so much, it doesn't matter when the underlying model is wonky.
It's much less wonky than MI4 had, so it's still a win as far as MI goes.
I will
The sheer disbelief that he received death threats, because he didn't post them (why would he? you wouldn't believe it if he did), on the part of a website that regularly tells everyone in it to kill themselves and thinks minorities should kill themselves en masse, is extremely strange.
Hey what you just posted was a death threat against me just now so shut your fricking face and stop talking.
Good, have a nice day, spastic.
>on the part of a website that regularly tells everyone in it to kill themselves and thinks minorities should kill themselves en masse
Most people who would post those wouldn't consider them to be "death threats". They're more "death requests".
things like that are death threats in the same sense slapping your friend in the back of the head because he said something stupid is aggravated assault
the same goes for some stupid fricking DM by a bored butthole who doesn't like thing X
You do realize it doesn't matter what your actual intent behind posting "have a nice day" on Ganker is, you're still posting "have a nice day". The "boys will be boys" mentality doesn't apply on the rest of the internet.
have a nice day unironically
"have a nice day" isn't a death threat you hemorrhoid
Telling someone to kill themselves isn't a death threat.
Split hairs all you want.
Think whatever you want that makes him look sillier and weaker.
>Split hairs all you want.
But it literally isn't, you stupid frick.
>aw no i didn't threaten to kill you i just told you to have a nice day
take a shower
You're fricking moronic and should have a nice day if you think someone on an anonymous imageboard telling you to walk off a short pier is a death threat.
You can claim it's harassment like a whiny b***h but claiming he's threatening to kill you is Black personhomosexual behavior. By the way, did I mention you should have a nice day, preferably by violent self-mutilation?
>if you think someone on an anonymous imageboard
the fact that you're not telling everyone on the internet to kill themselves at all other times you would on Ganker is a tacit admission you shouldn't be doing that
>harassment like a whiny b***h
ooooo anon your kuckles are so hairy, your balls hang so low and your voice is so deep, i can't NOT frick you, MMMMM you even said Black personhomosexual i am SO hard right now
Know I tell you to have a nice day if we were using Twitter or some other Black person social. That's why I'm permanently banned and IP banned from the service.
Makes sense that you have a humiliation fetish but I wasn't joking, you should unironically slit your jugular with a razor blade.
being an internet tough-guy everywhere you go sounds mentally exhausting
It really is... what's worse is when I run into Black folk like you in nightclubs and I have to glass a c**t.
Please be nice to c**ts.
You wouldn't want people thinking you're gay.
i remember a guy on tumblr who posted exactly like you and would brag about how he was rich, had a hot traditional wife, and would beat anybody on the prissy commie website in a fight
he'd lose arguments he started himself constantly and start bragging about how rich he was and how hot his trad wife was when he knew he was losing and eventually got banned for going team neo-nazi a bit too hard
I know your entire ideology relies on redefining words and pretending X is Y, but the real world doesn't work like that. You are a dishonest, immature child.
>I know your entire ideology
hello?
Or... he didn't actually receive death threats and was surprised people dislike how the art looked.
I'm thinking that.
I read the blog before he took it down. Out of 100 post that reacted negatively about the artstyle, maybe 2 or three of them came from unhinged people saying that Ron is an awful human being, or that he should kill himself. That isn't the problem, there's always a small percentages of sperg's who are going to do that, this is the goddamn internet after all.
The problem is that this very small minority of posts was cherry picked and used as an example of ALL of the negative response, and Ron's butthurt has made the emotional response to his "internet bullying" a means of being able to disregard all criticism of the artstyle. There's no coincidence that within only hours there was an article on Kotaku talking about how evil the so-called fans of games are, complete with a comment section full of braindead NPC's who did no more research than reading a headline. Ron must have had to deal with negative commentary before, the guy made Thimbleweed Park, after all. The hook here is that he's taking it personally, and now is making it a marketing ploy.
I had already lost respect for Ron, so the biggest casualty for me here was Dominic Armato, who I thought was a pretty chill guy until he started going on full damage control, and making up terms like Retro-Fascist. Guy needs to go back to binge eating flaming hot cheetos at the AZ State fair.
>why would he?
As proof of a ridiculous claim?
They're not even fricking touching.
You're actually quite likely to flinge and lose your balance if a boot approaches your face like that.
It looks like she has a buttplug with a tail
I thought the exact same thing
why did they give her steroid arms
Bugmen think women cant be capable or strong without either being ugly as frick or swallowing Anavar Daily
They can be. Society neither wants or requires it however.
We gotta install microwave ovens
>the quiet part out loud
>wanting change to take place
Oh no!
> Hey the artstye sucks
Oh you terrorist what are your demands to cease your behavior
> It would be nice another artstyle
How dare you !!
Armato is an extreme twitter c**t. He's the guy who called the fans retro fascists.
>1990
>Guybrush Threepwood
>2022
>Buttplug Toothbrush
Please hire me
I will now hire this man to produce my car insurance advert
In about 11 years I will hire you for my Fallout remaster
NINTENDO!
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, anon.
Why is tumblr so moronic? Red nose/face has always been characteristic of being drunk.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DrunkenGlow
"Tumblr nose" is a meme on Tumblr too. Actually almost all "Tumblr art" is a colossal meme there, like RCDart's trans Captain America and trans Tony Stark that frick eachother and have no real gender identity crises.
and the saddest part is that this isn't even the first time Treepwood gets a remake for the worse. But this new one is even worse than the other one.
If you want to be really depressed take a look at the trailer and the recent screenshots released.
>replaced the three important looking pirates with diversity hires
>the one black woman in the original game is front and center beyond the actual protag
>more screenshots of some new troon character than guybrush
Isn't the game in an amusement park and they're playing characters?
No, that's just the twist ending of MI2 that immediately also shows it's LeChuck's trickery. (all a joke based on how much they cribbed from the original PotC disneyland ride)
They were always adventure stories with humorous elements.
You're oversimplifying.
Monkey Island 1 and 2 all have weird seemingly random jokes that fit very well with the twist ending of 2.
And the "LeChuck looks at camera" part was added last minute in case they could do a sequel. It was not Gilbert's original vision. (The twist was also meant to be at the end of the first game)
TL;DR: Shit is complicated.
Right is better.
Oh but I will.
Try and stop me.
No one here has actually played any Monkey Island game.
Typical defense of the artstyle.
>my opponent does not exist
Everybody who complained about Star Wars TOR was a deeply dedicated and heavily invested player.
Nice try, your argument was 'nobody played', and you have nothing to show that.
The gays that EA is paying to remake KOTOR have literally only ported and published games. My guess is it's going to be a shit cash grab...
Not that, the MMO.
Yes, and I'm saying the KOTOR Remake is going to look and feel a lot worse...
The pic from the left isn't even gameplay.
Neither is the right one, anon.
Looks pretty close
Not the point.
It isn't gameplay.
Neither are.
They're both character splash art.
If one wanted to make a judgement based on those, they could.
Perosnally I'm pretty happy in-game Guybrush never actually looked like he did on the left in OP's pic. That would've been a little much.
And luckily, in-game Guybrsh doesn't really look as awkward as he does on the right either.
It's actual artwork from the game. Which given it is an adventure is arguably just as much "game" as the rest of it.
Honestly? Yes, if they made a monkey island that tried to recapture the style of these shots that the original had that would have been really cool.
Soul.
I don't really like the obviously downscaled photos they used for the portraits, just look at that difference in quality and style between her face and the accessories.
They're not photos. They're paintings that were digitized by hand by a non-artist.
Sssh, he doesn't need to know that developing video games used to actually require skills in both software and art production.
Seriously don't tell him about how they developed their own file management system exclusively for sprite animations. He's from an age where almost everyone uses Unity or Unreal
I've played all of them save for the 4th game. Both that one and this one are very visually unappealing.
>return
You lie, mr. Threepwood (the real one, I mean). Nobody escapes from Monkey Island.
This 'controversy' is more popular than the game at this point. Why even bother when you know it's going to fail anyways? It'll be forgotten the week it's released. Ron is a just a boomer hack past his prime.
Loads of people will "hate-play" it.
Twitch exists, so not really. If I care enough I'll watch it, but I really don't.
I get the sneaking suspicion there'll be a lot of "what was all the hullabaloo about, it's not that bad" after it releases.
Maybe, but that's not good word of mouth, and obviously they'll be pirating it. Youtube and Twitch will also filter out curious parties.
>when you know it's going to fail anyways?
It most likely won't.
But people will convince themselves it did even if it doesn't. Because they like seeing the world conform to their preferences. Makes everything click for them.
I had hopes after the original reveal and after TP, the issues it had aside.
But everything shown about this since has just been so wrong and demoralizing and the art style is only like 1/3rd of what's wrong with it.
That's depressing to hear, guess if I want to experience the classic I need to find It, I hope the original can be played despite the anti piracy measures of back then (which I assume It has)
wait is this freeware?
It is if you don't pay for it
Is that the new "looks like a Flash game" insult?
Oh no, gore! Anyway, /jjdINoFVUHj4iF5wYuzozQ==/
>I got some death threats so I'm gonna take my ball and go home, punishing fans who would have enjoyed seeing more of the game
What a moron, this guy is sixty and still can't handle the internet.
will it include a token Black person as well?
And a stronk independent woman who beats his whitie polygon ass?
The swordmaster in Monkey 1 was a black woman
I guess people like you were mad even 32 years ago
oh wait, you weren't around 32 years ago and the world was better
That was with words, where it makes sense that a waman can beat the cracker's ass.
Nowadays stronk waman beat men's ass during physical confrontation, which is what the post was about.
That wasn't what he meant and you know it. There is a world of difference between a black character and a token Black person made solely to have one in a work of media. Back then they were just another character, but today they would be a virtue signal.
They weren't obnoxious about it and she certainly didn't feel out of place in a pirates adventure.
She was portrayed as the best sword fighter on the island and other characters would tell you about how cool she is, but you still had to defeat her in order to beat the game.
>best sword fighter
None of that was actual sword fighting.
It was about words and insults, which women are best in.
And that's why that actually made sense, cracker.
You take things too literally.
It was also sword fighting, that's why Guybrush needed to be trained before being told about the insults.
Why would you try to make yourself look interesting on an anonymous image board?
No, it wasn't.
If you would have actually played it, the only thing that mattered were words. There were no fight controls at all.
Because it is a graphic adventure, not an action game. They added the insults gimmick that also happened to be fun, but Guybrush still had to train in order to be a good sword fighter. I know precisely I've played the game.
Indiana Jones 3+4 were also graphic adventures, but they had fighting controls and mechanics.
COPE
Only one coping is you buddy
>claim bullshit about muh adventure games
>get proven factually incorrect
>haha, you are coping, I was just wrong
nobody cares about you OP
nobody.
Hi Ron.
Literally everybody who cares about Monkey Island does.
Ron Gilbert is a washed up boomer dev who made mostly literal children games for the last 30 years, and only two mediocre ones in the last 10.
Everyone's sucking his dick just because he brought MI back, despite everything about it shown so far sending off massive warning sirens. Falling back on the "internet critics were mean" defense is just pathetic.
See the little homosexual with the earring and the make up
Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair
That little homosexual got his own video game
That little homosexual, he's a millionaire
Who Caaaares shit game SHIT GAME SHIT GAME WHO CARES SHUT THE FRICK UP!!!
Both are fug.
Monkey Island but as a FMV.
Now that would great
Was Curse of monkey island the game that showed in retrospect how much of a hack Ron Gilbert is? Why does he like LARP endings so much in his games?
Apparently he's continuing straight from MI2, ignoring everything else. Just stealing the best stuff from the other games, like Murray.
>not MY Monkey Island, IT DOESN'T COUNT!
giving into terrorist demands never works out
don't listen to them, Ron!
this was a planned marketing stunt
Yeah, 3D animation companies went out of business and a bunch of merchandise was dumpstered for a marketing stunt.
1.) thats not what happened
2.) yes, Sonic is the most successful videogame movie ever
Technicolor SA went out of business and was in charge of the Sonic movie's effects.
Ugly Sonic had statuettes and Halloween masks planned for release that never saw markets.
>Halloween masks
we would have guessed
>this was a planned marketing stunt
Sanic is known by the normie public.
Guybrush Peniswood isn't.
>"gatekeepers" are left outside the gate
kek get rekt
>no penis nose
soulless.
Did someone edit that to add the tumblr nose instead of the original dick nose?
Funny how even the artist that made this felt the need to smoothen the edges and make it look less shit.
>make a singular piece instead of a game sprite
>*homosexual voice* heh, wow, even he knows it looks like shit
>*homosexual voice*
Yikes, that sounds a bit homophobic. I literally can't even.
It looks like shit.
Is he drunk?
Apologize NOW!
>german puzzles
no
Literally only played it to see Goal naked.
If it had been a French game we would have gotten full frontal pussy and breasts.
Fricking Germans.
Great games.
Great art-style.
Monkey Island-like humor.
Great English dub.
4 games by a competent developer.
All classic point+click.
you forgot
>puzzle written by clueless guys
Apologize for what?
I loved the Deponia series even the ending which seemed to make everyone else seethe for whatever reason, and I found Doomsday just telling the player to stop being a homosexual and accept Goodbye's ending to be hilarious.
can someone spoil it for me for once?
>At the end of the original Deponia trilogy, Rufus (the protaginist) dies in an act of self sacrifice to save his love interest and the world although he really only cared about her.
>Tons of people hated this ending because they wanted a more typical happy ending.
>So much whining prompts the studio to make a sequel called Doomsday.
>Involves Love interest using a time machine to save the protagonist from his death
>After an entire game worth of time travel shenanigans the protagonist ends up dying in exactly the same way for exactly the same reasons
>The narrator then calls you a whiny little b***h for wanting a different ending
>They made an entire fourth game just to troll the fans.
booba
You know what wasn't a shit reboot?
What a completely bizarre choice of IP to try and reboot.
porn games are in vogue. If niche shit like black souls can get threads on the regular on one of the most popular western websites in the world, why cant leasure suit larry make a comeback? Even half baked WEGs are making 140k a year for a 1/2 person dev team.
>regular height Laffer
>not even ugly by any standards
>small-titted middling roastie prostitutes are the "babes" of the game
>he can barely even get those
Where's the funny?
>small-titted middling roastie prostitutes
as compared to huge-titted bimbo roastie prostitutes he can barely get?
Yes you turd burglar, that is exactly the point. Larry is a limp-dicked midget man in a moth-eaten unfashionable suit who wants to get with literal 12/10 amazon warrioresses.
It's funny because they are so beyond his league he doesn't even register as a bug on the collective windshield of femininity and yet he keeps going undeterred because he wants pussy that badly.
Comparatively nu-larry doesn't look any worse than the women in his game, and still he's having trouble getting pussy from a Belle Delphine knockoff.
>literal 12/10 amazon warrioresses
relative to him i guess, they're definitely missing the manlet joke, but i would very firmly put lsl's girls in the "bimbo" camp
Those aren't the games we're talking about and you KNOW that. We're talking about the
CrazyBunch games.
Magna Cum Laude was already a departure from the point and click games with the endless minigames and stuff. I wouldn't think of them as true Larry games.
>Those aren't the games we're talking about and you KNOW that.
yes i do know that which is why i'm extremely confused you seem to think LSL ever had bombastic sex goddesses when they're all bimbos
>you seem to think LSL ever had bombastic sex goddesses
Educate yourself somewhat.
4, 6 and 7 were the best. good old times.
>4
at least someone saw what I did there.
dumb zoomer
where?
I do like that comic where those two accidentally get hitched.
We can’t stop winning, Larry-bros!
APOLOGIZE!
I will.
NFT lookin' ass
Reminder that Jenny LeClue is cute and her game is fun. And any similarities to Return to Monkey’s art style are surface and invalid.
I thought the style on the right died out in 2011.
Larry and Broken Sword both learned and recovered after their shit 3D entries, how did Ron frick this up so bad?
The frick Larry learned? LSL 8 is garbage.
The new Larries are fun and 2D and fun.
No, they're super woke and cringe.
How the frick larry can be woke ?
play the last two games and find out for yourself.
I don't think 3D was ever a problem for Broken Sword. Primarily because original 2D games didn't look that outlandish to begin with.
3 and 4 had the same problem Escape had - awkward WASD controls because they wanted to pitch it to consoles.
They gave me strong MI4 vibes lacking any soul
The frick is Hugo Strange from The Batman dong against the wall?
Strange New World was unironically kino.
Dexter Stardust time, baby!
Dire straits???
When exactly did western art die? South Park? Beavis & Butthead? At some point "it looks bad on purpose" became the defacto art. Were there earlier examples? Something happened between Snow White and Rick & Morty
>point and click trash
Who cares
Grown ups do. Frick off CoD kid.
I'm 30 years old. This genre died because it fricking sucked. Simple as.
Oh so you're a filthy console pleb who never grew up with a PC, got it.
>ignoring the fact that boomer shooters have seen a resurgence while point and clicks died a horrific death on newgrounds
You're not even playing a video game, you're just clicking through pages of a story. But you're so incredibly cultured because of it right?
That's like saying puzzle games are just clicking buttons. The genre you are actually describing is popular af in 2022 (walking sims, dating sims)
wtf happened?
the part where he "dies" for the first time is one of my favorite moments in any game.
if you look at some of the fanart out there, a lot of them look absolutely amazing. imagine if we got that, instead of this? after you've made me associate his nose with a dog's dick, i'll never be able to unsee it. what a shame.
such as?
Clueless White Guy SHOCKS Ganker natives with his Monkey Island knowledge
both of these look shit, but the lower one doesn't look complete ass.
What's the leftist corporate art style designed for? Worse than calarts.
Is this even plausible deniability if things were to go to court?
corporations flexing on how inoffensive they look to the public eye, it's like a contest of playing wolf in sheep's clothing.
it was very easy to recognize and understand, making it "iconic" my design
its easy to replicate and quick to produce
>same "people" who defend murdering infants consumes soulless shit
Go figure.
it’s easy to see and neutral if you don’t want to use animu or clip art that have proportions too realistic, which at the same time makes it best for marketing
it’s not too detailed and is color oriented so as an artist that has some practice it’s just low level effort while still playing it safe for normie consumption, but then again it’s low effort enough that most beginners can replicate it which saturated the industry very quickly once it picked up, in 2010 you were hot shit for using it
I don't get it, what's that about "camping"?
>What's the leftist corporate art style designed for?
Nobody
there is a surplus of SJW types who all pursued art degrees saturating the market, likewise most corporations are just looking for the lowest bidder for art assets and graphic design so you have a bunch of really really shitty artists getting work for major corporations because they're willing to work for peanuts.
That's my theory anyway.
how much will it cost?
It will be more than 44 bucks.
Nothing!
The real question
Now close your eyes
haha benis :--DDD
anyone play dracula unleashed? i had but my pc had trouble running it and was too young to understand what the frick i was supposed to be doing. worth playing?
oh and i also think there was a titanic game too
this shit is dead on arrival
on the contrary, it has had a literal frickload of free advertising on this board in the past 72 hours.