It's a problem that solves itself is the poll is in game. Especially if it requires a certain percentage completion. The only people that could vote would be people that actually care about the game's future.
One of the many weird situations it created: the PvE community voting against any PvP QoL update because they don't want to make the lives of PK players easier (even though PK is only mandatory in a tiny area of the game with little content in it).
In turn the pvp players also vote no against pve updates, and since it only takes a minority to veto an update they have managed to veto dozens and dozens of QoL updates that failed for the lack of 1% or 2% of votes.
>(even though PK is only mandatory in a tiny area of the game with little content in it).
That's because absolutely no one enjoys PVP or having to do anything in the Wilderness, and Jagex's only idea to fix this is to just keep dumping explicitly PVE content into the Wilderness purely to give the 0.01% of PVP gays more players to gank.
Just don't go to the wilderness. You don't need to go there except for like two mini-quests and the occasional clues, and in both these you can risk nothing.
>but there are bosses there!!
Yes, for those willing to take the risk. You don't need to do these.
I'd still rather have the poll system. I don't trust jagex as far as I could throw mod ash. They are the reason we even needed a full reboot in the first place.
Jagex constantly ignores or changes polls, sometimes just skipping the process completely.
OSRS polls no longer accomplish what they were originally advertised to do.
Listening to the players is one of the worst things you can do when you're making a video game, most "gamers" either have shit taste or have no idea how vidya development and design works, and if you need "proofs" you can check the most played games: gacha garbage, fortnite, COD and Fifa.
Devs shouldnt listen to the players, they should stick to their ideas and make the game they want.
Which is why they aren't listening to the players, it works on a proposal voting system. The content gets drafted and then presented and if players like it, it gets added to the game, while if they dislike it, it doesn't. The players aren't the ones designing or developing anything, it's literally just 'If this was in the game, would you be happy or upset or neutral?'
I have to wonder if OP shit like zulrah or NMZ would even be polled today. Jagex seems to have went in the opposite direction now, where everything can only be on par or worse than content from 20 years ago.
I think nichescape is a way more future-proof way to design the game than tierscape, though.
An item only needs a few scenarios where it is BiS to be worth owning, and they seem to be taking advantage of that philosophy.
they basically introduced a couple new tiers over items from 20 years ago, strict upgrades and conditionally op items.
for example, rapier is rare but a strictly better whip and scythe is a lot better than both but can only be used at 3x3 enemies and is expensive to use
how much time do you spend clicking at monsters and running at them? using lightbearer to get more dinhs specs to aggro monsters faster is actually great for barrage tasks
How so? The game wouldn't even have any death penalties to this day if they didn't force in gravestones as an integrity update. Overtuned drops in ToA never got nerfed because reddit had a shitstorm about the first drop rate tweaks (reminder a purple on a 150 invo ToA is more common than a purple in ToB or Chambers)
Because we have seen what jagex does when they aren't beholden to any systems, and its not good.
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The polling system doesn't force any bad actors in upper management to not make dogshit changes to the game's monetization structure. The game already has so much powercreep and literal 1:1 items copied directly from Pre-EOC that were deemed that the thought of them being in OSRS was basically treated as a meme (D claws, korasi, etc) so what security is the polling system even giving you anymore?
I like the idea of an MMO that has daily mechanical changes based on votes earned by PvP victories, where the idea is that guilds will come together and form political blocs and shit.
It only matters if developers listen to the poll system.
Yes that's what I mean. If they only added changes that were voted on. Like socialism for games
Democracy is mob rule. Find a way to make it so only qualified voters can participate otherwise you open yourself to subversion
How do you choose who is qualified?
>How do you choose who is qualified?
Same as with a normal democracy
Whoever agrees with me is qualified
It's a problem that solves itself is the poll is in game. Especially if it requires a certain percentage completion. The only people that could vote would be people that actually care about the game's future.
Dragon Slayer completed
No irontrannies
every game would be bad then
But reddit ruined osrs
pic unrelated?
OSRS pushes unpolled shit all the time.
kek
post those forced unpolled updates
>poll only moronic irrelevant shit that you already know the answer to
wow israelitegex are the best developers evar!!
This poll system failed immediately and they've already re-added back all of the shit updates that killed the game in the first place.
The poll system is moronic and OSRS proves this.
One of the many weird situations it created: the PvE community voting against any PvP QoL update because they don't want to make the lives of PK players easier (even though PK is only mandatory in a tiny area of the game with little content in it).
>pass user since 2018
Holy cringe
God, frick pvpiggers
why?
In turn the pvp players also vote no against pve updates, and since it only takes a minority to veto an update they have managed to veto dozens and dozens of QoL updates that failed for the lack of 1% or 2% of votes.
>(even though PK is only mandatory in a tiny area of the game with little content in it).
That's because absolutely no one enjoys PVP or having to do anything in the Wilderness, and Jagex's only idea to fix this is to just keep dumping explicitly PVE content into the Wilderness purely to give the 0.01% of PVP gays more players to gank.
Just don't go to the wilderness. You don't need to go there except for like two mini-quests and the occasional clues, and in both these you can risk nothing.
>but there are bosses there!!
Yes, for those willing to take the risk. You don't need to do these.
I'd still rather have the poll system. I don't trust jagex as far as I could throw mod ash. They are the reason we even needed a full reboot in the first place.
>the PvE community voting against any PvP QoL update
BASED
pvpers are second class citizens in all games, and that's a good thing
That's an obvious issue where it's two games competing against each other, though. And that's on the pollers for making such a stupid mistake.
Eat shit snoy shill.
pvpBlack folk are the worst thing to ever happen to mmos. They have literally killed all mmos and innovation
Jagex constantly ignores or changes polls, sometimes just skipping the process completely.
OSRS polls no longer accomplish what they were originally advertised to do.
>post game ruined by polls
kay
every game would be for normalgays then
How come there wasn't a poll about the gay pride event?
What's the point of polling anything when every decision is inexplicably deferred to reddit?
it was a reddit poll
>implying osrs hasn't been completely ruined with ezscape bullshit and terrible new quests
Now imagine what it would look like if the devs were just allowed to do anything they wanted.
I don't have to imagine, rs3 already exists.
Listening to the players is one of the worst things you can do when you're making a video game, most "gamers" either have shit taste or have no idea how vidya development and design works, and if you need "proofs" you can check the most played games: gacha garbage, fortnite, COD and Fifa.
Devs shouldnt listen to the players, they should stick to their ideas and make the game they want.
Which is why they aren't listening to the players, it works on a proposal voting system. The content gets drafted and then presented and if players like it, it gets added to the game, while if they dislike it, it doesn't. The players aren't the ones designing or developing anything, it's literally just 'If this was in the game, would you be happy or upset or neutral?'
I have to wonder if OP shit like zulrah or NMZ would even be polled today. Jagex seems to have went in the opposite direction now, where everything can only be on par or worse than content from 20 years ago.
I think nichescape is a way more future-proof way to design the game than tierscape, though.
An item only needs a few scenarios where it is BiS to be worth owning, and they seem to be taking advantage of that philosophy.
they basically introduced a couple new tiers over items from 20 years ago, strict upgrades and conditionally op items.
for example, rapier is rare but a strictly better whip and scythe is a lot better than both but can only be used at 3x3 enemies and is expensive to use
Friendly reminder to vote yes for this potion to be able to frick Ironman out of their drops
This seems like just a griefing tool, what's the actual point of it?
to aggro everything around you for afk slayer without using venny bow/cannon
how much time do you spend clicking at monsters and running at them? using lightbearer to get more dinhs specs to aggro monsters faster is actually great for barrage tasks
This is a good idea - by keeping the polls IN the game, it weeds out people that aren't playing or financially invested.
Why weren't the woke parades polled in game?
The poll system in osrs sucks though. The game's basically at reddit's mercy.
Thats more an issue of jagex being morons than the poll system itself being bad.
No it's a situation of good updates not getting passed or necessary changes being made or taking 5+ years because reddit cries about it
If you want RS3 just say that, because thats what would happen without a polling system.
How so? The game wouldn't even have any death penalties to this day if they didn't force in gravestones as an integrity update. Overtuned drops in ToA never got nerfed because reddit had a shitstorm about the first drop rate tweaks (reminder a purple on a 150 invo ToA is more common than a purple in ToB or Chambers)
Because we have seen what jagex does when they aren't beholden to any systems, and its not good.
The polling system doesn't force any bad actors in upper management to not make dogshit changes to the game's monetization structure. The game already has so much powercreep and literal 1:1 items copied directly from Pre-EOC that were deemed that the thought of them being in OSRS was basically treated as a meme (D claws, korasi, etc) so what security is the polling system even giving you anymore?
I like the idea of an MMO that has daily mechanical changes based on votes earned by PvP victories, where the idea is that guilds will come together and form political blocs and shit.