If I want to buy a gaming PC where do I even start?
How much money should I spend?
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If I want to buy a gaming PC where do I even start? How much money should I spend?
If I want to buy a gaming PC where do I even start?
How much money should I spend?
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Like 6
Atleast.
>buy a gaming PC
STOP. BUYING. PRE-BUILTS, YOU PIG
this
I just pick the parts and have the store build it for me, what's wrong with that?
Go back to r/PCMR
have a nice day Black person.
Recess is over, but back to r/PCMR on the next one
>Recess is over
Only if you want it to be over, Mr. Het Gut
You need to pick your goal first. Playing 1080p at high fps or 4k at 60fps.
I don't know what my goal is
I always thought I'd want a top of the line PC but I'm scared of how much it costs
Pick some games you wanna play and figure out how demanding they are
top of the line would be like $2,000 minimum.
top of the line is a complete meme, especially for casuals and beginners.
had some friends talk about what gaming PC they wanna get. they all want 4080, 4090 minimum. 32 GB RAM they dont have any use for. 4K 120 hz at least, OLED ideally. some XX95 CPU or whatever the best intel CPU is atm. and for what? to play AAA schlock that has nothing to offer other than how far you can pull the graphix slider.
the games they actually play are flashgame tier shit like BTD6 or comp shooters that work on literally everything like CSGO or valorant. they could be perfectly happy with a 1060 or 1660 but they think they have to go with the biggest and most expensive system they can buy.
Leave them alone. Paypigs make the world go round.
No, they don't. They drive up prices in a way that makes cost an ineffective metric for value. have a nice day.
Bullshit. Dramatic overreaction based upon jealousy and greed. You have nothing to based your claims on that is rooted in reality.
No, the anon you reply to is actually right. Just cause you're being forcefed "bigger price=better" and believe it, won't make it true. You're delusional and lack critical thought if you believe inflated prices say anything about production costs and usage value. Especially since prices can range from like 30% of the price to 500%+ merely by changing who the brand is despite it being the same manufacturer. In short: have a nice day you consumer homosexual.
... what? Like you just invented someone inside of your head to argue with, then directed it at me. When did I make any of those claims that you're refuting? Because I said he's jealous because his friends have more disposable income to throw away?
I know your kind. Playing disingenuous isn't gonna help you.
Now you're insane. How the frick does buying high end make everything go up in price? High-end has existed forever but now it's a problem? Stupid.
What about 1080p at 60fps?
pcpartpicker.com
I did that and saw literally thousands of CPUs with numbers I don't understand and gave up
i dont even know what the numbers of my CPU mean either
just pick the best GPU youre willing to pay for and look up the best CPU that you could use with it without bottlenecking
or look for similar builds using the same GPU see what rams/mbs theyre using
as for the hard drives and SSDs you can literally use anything so just pick one based on the price youre willing to pay
how do you even find this information
also I could never settle on which gpu I actually want, I don't want to go through all this effort for some mid range trash but it's so fricking expensive I can't commit to anything
>some mid range trash
mid range trash plays everything at 100fps at this point if youre not buying into 4K/raytracing meme
t.2070 super that plays everything at 2k 120fps
>how do you even find this information
just google the GPU with "build" next to it and youll find a ton of reddit posts and youtube videos about builds similar to what you want
This , and a lot of "best [part]" google searches
Gathered together a list of parts, got them, built it, forgot about them. I literally cannot tell you what is in my computer off the top of my head, I have no idea how people do that and keep up with new stuff for every single part needed.
Will probably need to go through this process again in a couple of years, shit's getting a bit old
>no PS2 keyboard/mouse ports
>no disc drive
>no sd slot option
>no vga port
garbage site
look up the parts elsewhere
this is just to keep track of all the parts that you need bruh
Iruru perpendicular paizuri
How much have you got?
Any particular games you're interested in?
based.
Wait until prices go back down
lust provoking image
God DAMN that's a fat tail
I just wanna sink my teeth into it
>fat disgusting homewrecking b***h
Shit taste anon
I started with a recommended build from newegg and tweaked it. There might be better ways to go about it though.
Just buy an xbox instead
Just buy a console. $1700 cheaper and plays the same games
I also need to upgrade my PC, not doing anything too fancy.
Is the RX 7600 the best graphic card for the price right now? It seems like that everywhere I look
Yes, no. Maybe so. AMD has frick-all RT support at the low-end. It's about the same performance as a 6650XT but with RNDA3 driver frickery. (RNDA2 is fully baked now).
6700 XT is probably better with it's extra vram and better performance for not much more? 3060 Ti on nvidia's side if you care about DLSS/RT
It's the current entry level card for 1080p and it's not bad (It will run anything but the NEW demanding game on ultra @60FPS).
2k entry level => 6700XT
4k entry level => 6800XT/6900XT
logicalincrements
pcpartpicker.
Build something Ryzen based so you do not have problems.
AMD CPU+Nvidia GPU.
AMD GPUs are ok for gaming too if you are on a budget.
Avoid Seagate HDDs.
Only buy WD or Crucial SSDs, Samsung SSDs are not what they used to be.
DO NOT CHEAP OUT IN YOUR PSU.
>nvidia GPU
All of the current nvidia GPUs are extremely overpriced and underpowered.’ Except for the 4090 which is only merely extremely overpriced
wait whats wrong with seagate HDDs?
They're fricking garbage and literally every dead drive I've ever encountered has been from Seagate.
>7 WD drives
>only one failed so far(still could recover the data fully)
>2 seagate drives
>both failed so far
>dads computer crashed
>seagate of course
I only trust WD now, I'll pay the extra and I'll buy this as the main drive for my next computer build.
>Recommends Ganker homosexual shills
frick those buttholes, they dont even play vidya
>pcpartpicker
The best website in the world.
>DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR PSU
Good advice.
>directing to schizo general
Bad advice.
i've had a seagate backup plus running as my main hard drive since this ssd only holds like 200 gbs aand hasn't failed me yet, what's wrong with seagate?
Can you not fricking read?
yes, but i was looking for an elaboration like this
No more than 2k, Intel i7 13700k, Nvidia 4070 Ti, 32gb RAM would be what I'd get if I had the option.
Where do you even read about the basics of what each part of a pc even does. Everyone just seems to hold this knowledge already and they also know what the differences between different models of parts are.
Literally google all the separate acronyms that
used
A lot of it just comes down to learning what parts make up a PC, then being forced to pick one of each forces you to learn what options there are and asking "What's the difference between these" and looking up the answer.
Logical Increments holds your hand and gives you a primer on every piece you need.
I think a lot of us millennials take for granted we actually had computer hardware classes in highschool and think this stuff should be common knowledge.
I assume they don't even teach about computers anymore, just how to use a tablet and Google.
Usually motherboards come with a physical manual explaining in detail how to install ram/ssd/hdd etc.
You can go to the manufacturer official website and download the same manual in PDF
>Where do you even read about the basics of what each part of a pc even does.
Opening up a PC and looking at the parts. Youtube tutorials for building PCs. Literally google. You have all the knowledge at your fingertips friend. That being said, I'll spoonfeed you a bit.
The PC is comprised of 7 main parts.
1. Motherboard
2. Powersupply (PSU)
3. CPU
4. GPU
5. RAM
6. Storage (Hard Drive or SSD)
7. Case
To be short, the motherboard connects everything together, while the CPU handles instructions (such as opening a program or running physics in games), the GPU handling graphics output, the RAM holding data in storage, and the storage storing your files.
You cannot just put a bunch of hardware together and call it a day. You have to figure out what hardware you want because some hardware is not compatible. You have two choices, choose AMD processors, or INTEL processors. Your processor will determine what kind of motherboard you get. This should be the start of your build.
The CPU/MOTHERBOARD/RAM need to be compatible with each other. To figure this out, look at the specifications of the motherboard on the newegg or Amazon page of the product. It should tell you what kind of CPU and RAM is compatible with it. You can also use pcpartpicker which I think shows you the compatibility automatically.
Many online part retailers will allow you to filter items by brand or compatibility. For instance, you can filter for all AMD compatible motherboards (AM4+) and then further filter by price.
When buying parts, make sure to double check if they are compatible and ALWAYS read the reviews before you buy a part.
Just buy parts you want as you get funds and ignore the overall cost
You'll never know you just spent $3k to shitpost on Ganker
but I can't shitpost I got permabanned
>Actual look up all the parts of my recent completed upgrade on PCpartpicker
>It actually comes out to about $3000, not counting a new monitor I'm about to buy
Oh God
Oh frick
Don't worry, it's actually a good idea to spend USD on valuable electronics since it's going to be absolutely worthless in a few years
I think making a pc with a Ryzen 7600 or 7600x is the best value for now. You want 32 GB of DDR5 6000 memory and a SN850X SSD (get it on sale).
The most expensive parts are typically the GPU, the Monitor, and the CPU in that order. Good CPUs are really cheap nowadays so they're really not the limiting factor.
A good idea is to take the top 5 games you want to play, and then google their performance benchmarks with common GPUs. This will give you an idea on how to price out your GPU. Most games on PC do not require a huge beefy GPU, but some games do, especially triple A garbage.
Looking at benchmarks will also help you decide what resolution and framerate you want to play at, which is important for choosing a monitor. If you're only used to 1080p/720p 30-60hz, a 2k/4k 144+hz monitor on a good PC will blow you away, especially if you play FPS games. Obviously higher resolutions and framerates need better GPUs.
Don't bother with hard drives unless you're really poor. Even good sized SSDs are super cheap nowadays.
Also check out PC part picker. That can help you alot.
Don't even bother with hard drives when you are poor, a modern operating system just shouldn't live on a hard drive, and going for the tiny SSD with bigger HDD is just bad economics when you're on the bottom.
I definitely agree with you. HDDs don't hold a candle to SSDs and the technology is dirt cheap anyways. I do recommend getting a frickhuge hard drive for storage of things that don't need to load fast though.
>the technology is dirt cheap anyways.
It's not. And SSDs have a far, far shorter life span.
If you need to archive a lot of stuff and need your PC to operate flawlessly for many years, decades to come even, HDDs are a must have.
a 1tb 2.5 inch ssd is 60$. My EVO has been running for 6 years without issue. I've had hard drives last just one year. I'm not trying to disparage HDDs place in long term data storage, but our newfriend here isn't trying to set up a RAID, he just wants to play some videogames.
>a 1tb 2.5 inch ssd is 60$.
For that money, I got 6 terabyte HDD.
>my EVO has been running for 6 years
and my Kingston started failing after a single year, and it was a dedicated OS drive.
>In hindsight I think I should have bought a 4k monitor,
No, you should have not.
Performance > resolution. But even then you shouldn't go overboard with those 360hz meme devices.
Don't become an asshat that's allergic to 60 fps games.
and for 100$ I got a 18TB external drive that I shucked and use to store all my Linux ISOs, but I would never put an OS or any game released after 2015 on it because that's not what it's good at.
>For that money, I got 6 terabyte HDD.
The cheapest 6tbs are 80$ unless you go refurbished. Plus, you're looking at shameful read write speeds and load times from the chinkshit hdd you're getting.
>and my Kingston started failing after a single year, and it was a dedicated OS drive.
Sounds like you deserved it you melvin homosexual.
>Performance > resolution.
RIght, but for instance I've been playing the newest Ghost n goblins game which supports 4k and I'm sure I could probably get >60fps at 2k or maybe 4k. But then something like Eldin Ring I could lower the ingame resolution to 1080 and have 60 fps.
So I would just have more options until I stop being a gpulet and can run everything smoothly at 4k.
Controller wise you never really know, but the lifespan of SSDs really isn't much of an issue for 99% of people. Those TBW ratings aren't even hard limits - they're just what the manufacturer guarantees for 5 years or so.
Samsungs are a little on the high end of that, but even 600tb means you'd have to be writing 120 terabytes a year. Most people won't do even 60 a year, and ten years would be a good run for platters as well.
I've had my cheap ass SSD for like 8 years now with no issues.
I'm sure the Falcon guide/logical increments is still updated.
Have a goal in what you want to play. You don't need anything beefy if you just want to play older games.
Do research you anime posting moron
I'd start by turning that around and asking how much money do you have to spend? IE: what's the absolute most amount of money you actually want to throw at this?
That question will decide literally everything else.
I don't know
I have chronic indecision and can't answer that question
spending huge amounts of money makes me queasy
I'm the same way. Don't know if this is the way to do it, but a large chuck of the $ comes from gpu + monitor. So I got a somewhat decent everything else, but only a 1080p monitor and a 1660ti.
It way a huge upgrade from my 2011 pc and I mostly play older shit and indies, but have to option to upgrade one of these days.
I have no idea what monitor I would want, that's a whole other can of worms
my current monitor is like 15 years old and I don't even have space for a second monitor on my desk
1080p is the minimum these days afaik, and I do kind of regret not going for 2k, but then at that point I'd rather just get 4k.
In hindsight I think I should have bought a 4k monitor, and then played with lower resolution in more graphically intense games.
>spending huge amounts of money makes me queasy
What counts as a "huge amounts of money" to you?
Because you CAN indeed get a great gaming and multimedia PC for the same price you'll find Piss5 consoles on the store shelves.
Even cheaper if you build one yourself and know what you're doing.
I've personally assembled 3 computers these past 20 years, and I have never spent more than 1100€ on any one of them.
The last one I built back in 2011, and I'm writing on it this very second. Only did minor upgrades to it back in 2017, all using 2nd hand parts (sans a new, cheap SSD).
Just don't bite the "OMG you NEED teh biggest, newest shit to even run Pong!!!" memes.
It's probably something you should decide first before even worrying about anything else, since no matter what you choose, you'll be paying money.
Let's say purely for example, you set $2000US aside. That $2000 is the hard line - it has to cover all costs. Depending on where you live, sales tax alone may eat up $100-200US. Shipping if applicable, etc. So your actual budget may wind up being more like $1800 or so and go from there.
See this
If you want cheaper ask here
>First timer
So in order to avoid frick ups you'll get the basic b***h 1080p experience in 2023
R5 7600 (Not the X)
6600 XT
XG2431
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dxnypB
The price is a bit inflated you can get it cheaper but it's up to you
If you want higher res you will need more $$$
This is better than any Samsung SSD.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DyhFf7/western-digital-black-sn850x-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t2x0e
>If I want to buy a gaming PC where do I even start?
Define what kind of games you want to play, and at what quality (resolution, max framerate, rough settings...).
Do research on said games and what kind of components reach the desired outcome (check YT videos).
Start doing research on the best prices and availability of components of your choice.
Don't be shy towards used market either, unless the dealer's shady as frick.
Assemble your ebin PC.
Install Linux or W10 IOT LTSC edition + run OOSU10 and Classic Shell to make it tolerable.
https://ogicalincrements.com/
https://pcspecialist.co.uk/
https://pcpartpicker.com/
CPU prices are good at the moment, and processors have actually started gaining speed again after a decade.
Basic Ryzen 5 or Intel i5 from the past 4 years will get the job done for newbs, but for heavier multitasking, content creation and "future proofing", i7 or R7 is always better. Few truly benefit of i9 / R9.
Stock cooler will be okay for most people. Liquid cooling is a meme most folks are too ADHD for.
RAM is still well priced. 16GB in dual-channel configuration is a good bare minimum nowadays, 32GB will get you much farther.
PSU is the one components you should not gimp on.
A high quality, high Wattage power supply will ensure smooth run for many, many years.
GPU = pick your poison.
FYI, a GTX 1060 6gb from 2017 can still do 1080p/60fps at modestly high settings in most games out there, but there's always "THAT ONE GAEM" that won't run well on any device. Don't let such AAA trash cloud your judgement, and recognize if the performance critics are some 240hz @ 4K elitists who can't even stand 60fps no more.
Storage space is obviously pretty crucial, espec. if you play modern AAA trash that are starting to be 100+ GB by default (which is insane). A couple TB SSD for the OS, some important apps and a few games + a beeeg HDD for storage and older vidya is arguably the best combo even today.
>Plan B:
Used office PC + low-power GPU
just get a 13700K, a 4080 and 32GB of RAM.
Go
depends, i spend 1500 on mine during covid since i got covid bucks and had money to spare.
My gpu ended up being a 6700xt, which i kinda want to upgrade now.
I'd recommend something in the same gen, if you want something more powerful go for a 4070 as it's kinda cheaped compared to other 4000 series.
In case you're interested in VR, do NOT touch anything 4000 below 80. They have a shitty bus size or something that makes them not able to do VR.
First two questions should be
>Budget to spend (does it include monitor and accesories,etc)
>Target resolution
Post more lust provoking Ilulu OP
how do I choose between amd and Intel
or amd and Nvidia
what even is the difference
every time I try to look up info about this I just get console war tier shitposting and it makes me give up
>AMD
Historically more budget friendly
>INTEL
Historically better performance
It doesn't matter anyway. Both processors run just fine and will get the job done. Pick based on your budget.
Doesn't matter, just pick one.
If you're too inept to even properly research the subject you aren't even going to notice the difference between the two. Unironically just buy AMD because it's cheaper and you're too stupid to care.
what the frick is the point of 144hz monitors vs 120? what's with the random number instead of a another multiple of 30?
Because it's a multiple of 24 which is the standard framerate for movies.
Yes, the reason is that stupid.
Do you guys still buy a disk drive when you build a PC?
No but I built a NAS ages ago so I wouldn't need to worry about how many Sata ports these new gaming motherboards have.
Usually not, these days since a NVME SSD with the same storage costs pretty much the same as an HDD. You should only consider HDDs these days if pretty much you are just building a NAS, or if you really need the storage and the HDD at the same price has at least double the capacity of an SSD
homie. A 4tb m.2 costs like $280
A 4tb HDD can go as low as $78 for a new WD Nas drive.
You can find 2tb NVMEs on sale all day for under $100. HDDs only make sense if you're bulk storing porn, anime, movies, or seeding games.
>2tb
I guess you only want to have a few games installed at a time.
Not all of us are obsessed with shitty 100GB console ports.
This. I download all my anime so I buy HDDs to keep the terabytes of anime in
I'm not a murican anon, so thats probably why prices have changed a lot over there. Still, im referring to the average 1-2TB nvme you buy vs a 2TB HDD, at least from where I'm able to get them, prices are pretty damn similar and makes HDDs completely redundant.
At current prices there's a pretty large fluctuation between the known mostly-reliable brands(samsung, WD) and everyone else.
USD you can get 4tb m.2 for around $160 or so, but you take your chances with the generic chinkbrand at that price. Crucial and WD are more like $260-280, and don't think samsung even makes a 4tb.
Smaller drives same thing. Samsungs around $100, everything else $10-$40 cheaper. The price generally reflecting the brand and the endurance ratings.
No I just buy a frickton of SSD's and keep nothing important on my C: drive.
I just use the same ones I’ve been accumulating for a decade with every new build
I have like 2 hdds, 4ssds, and 2nvmw
yes
5600X3D is the best CPU for gaming within it's price range, is 95% as fast as the 5800X3D for 30% less, but can only be bought from Microcenter.
Don't buy a "gaming" PC, moron.
Buy a PC.
You wouldn't have had this tantrum if he said he wanted a PC for gaming instead of saying gaming PC.
Because those are two different things.
here's what you need, anon-kun:
1. motherboard. there are different forms, if you want a full size tower you get an ATX, if you want something smaller you can get an MATX, and of course you need to know the appropriate chipset for your CPU to make sure they're compatible.
2. RAM (that is compatible with your motherboard)
3. CPU, you can go intel or AMD but the motherboard has to be able to support your chipset. look up the chipset and get a motherboard that will support it. you also want to get a cooling solution, i.e. typical heatsink with a fan, but you could opt for liquid cooling, it's up to you. typical fans are easier to deal with
4. graphics card. you almost always want to get an aftermarket design, stock cards are prone to overheating/failure/etc.
5. a PSU, aka the power unit, it needs to provide enough wattage for all your components.
6. a case, you can get whatever you want, as long as it fits your needs.
7. storage device, HDD or SDD, or both. whatever you want.
8. ??? peripherals. these days you don't need shit like a CD drive or whatever, but you do you.
and there you have it, all you need to build a PC. of course, there's more, like custom builds, staying true to a central theme, etc... who cares about all that gay shit I'm just trying to introduce you to the basic concept. it's not hard to figure out. just do it, kouhai.
1440p 144hz monitor
5600x3d
4070
32gb ram
This build was pretty good for the money imo, you can even play at 4K 60 with high settings, the case is out of stock, but I recommend you to get a Fractal Design Pop XL as an alternative.
Ignore israelitevidia RTX4000 shills, we all know the only good one is the 4090.
>pcpartpicker.com/guide/8V9TwP/excellent-intel-gamingstreaming-build
Fractal Case
>pcpartpicker.com/product/8qFbt6/fractal-design-pop-xl-air-atx-full-tower-case-fd-c-por1x-06
Protip: Don't.
>Ilulu encouraging you to have wild steamy sex
>mfw its not me
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
spend like $600-800 and you'll be set for like 5-10 years because nobody who actually likes videogames plays triple-A goyslop
Be honest with me Black folks.
How bad is the second-hand market rite now?
why do you even need a PC when you can cast magic and breathe fire?
>How much money should I spend?
If you have to ask it's not enough
How much money do I have to spend to get a PC that would be enough of an upgrade from a steam deck to be worth it?
Is 32GB RAM a meme? I just don't understand what you would do with so much but maybe I'm mentally challenged
>janny policing an off-topic Ganker thread
How annoying is it to just replace a motherboard? Pretty sure mine just finally died after 11 years of use