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>it wasn't me
I suppose the Shaggy defence is always at least worth a try when someone tries to start Twatter bullshit based on a sentence in an obscure book written before their dad even discovered why his willy was starting to feel funny.
It's only a Shaggy defense if you're literally caught in the act. That was the whole point of the song.
For a Shaggy defense to be relevant they'd have to do something like print Total Black person Death in a new book this year and get flak for it in real time.
True, with usual timing that argument did come to me after I posted it, but it could come under "well it still says D&D on the cover". Let's face it, anyone dragging up bollocks from 198whatever is rarely arguing in good faith. Besides, this smells more of arsecovering for retcons, and ... Well, as a forever GM, my table my world.
>anyone dragging up bollocks from 198whatever is rarely arguing in good faith
The 'RT had female SM' crowd on suicide watch.
That's more of a "technically correct" situation (marginally less annoying than the culture screechers, at least pedantry is useful sometimes), but even then it misses the point a bit. Yes, there were female power armoured models and yes they may even have been part of a 'Space Marines' advert, but the book itself says nothing because who really cares about the sex of a playing piece and in any case the background has wandered into very different directions since.
I think this is their explanation for why they basically have ignored the entirety of 4e's lore and dropped it's plot threads without resolving any of them.
I do think it was just fine, considering that 2e->3e had the same amount of nonsensical b***hing you see now. The only problem are the people who won't let it go.
2e-3e didn't have a transition event, 3e books just jumped in a little while after the Time of Troubles, which is part of why they were so good.
To be clear, ignoring older editions is a weak take, but it's better than contriving in-world events to in-world erase the old in-world history.
Die Vecna was the transition event, because it was to completely destabilize Planescape and explain why all of the worlds separated again and have various changes.
However early testing had D&D nerds hating the idea of a big comic book style Crisis event so WotC scrapped it.
Arguably if we did let private profit be the sole incentive we would be much better off because investment firms would never have gotten government contracts and banks would be allowed to fail when they play funny money, thus reinforcing the incentive structure that says you need to be the most beneficial towards your customer base if you want to keep a customer base.
Socialism for corporations creates very bad situations that are very hard to fix after the fact.
At this point we would need to resurrect Teddy Roosevelt and get him to dismantle literally every one and every thing that handles more than 500 million dollars a year.
>if we did let private profit be the sole incentive
We did, that's the problem.
>government contracts
Increase private profit.
>Banks scamming the public
Increases private profit.
>reinforcing the incentive strucutre
>protecting customers
>building a market economy
Has nothing to do with increasing private profit.
Really we should let go of the idea that managing millions of dollars can possibly be a private affair. Rich people are government and they need to be held accountable as such.
>Die Vecna was the transition event, because it was to completely destabilize Planescape and explain why all of the worlds separated again and have various changes.
There were two 2e->3e transition adventures. Die, Vecna Die and The Apocalypse Stone. DVD was Greyhawk/Ravenloft/Planescape while TAS was generic.
Then stop complaining when privately-owned corporations make decisions that benefit their bottom line, even if it's not what you want. What you want is irrelevant, it's what makes more money that's important.
Sounds sensible. Your thoughts?
I'm conflicted, because the Time of Troubles was a big dumb contrivance meant to give an in-world explanation for edition change, and it was kind of awesome. But then the spellscar was also a big dumb contrivance meant to give an in-world explanation for edition change, and it was the worst, it would have been better if 4e Faerun had simply treated earlier stuff as non-canon and not tried to explain the difference.
Sounds extremely soulless and shitty. People detached from their own history have no value.
2014 was a decade ago
We've had three presidents and six prime ministers in that time
In 2014 the biggest movie of the year was the first Guardians of the Galaxy. Most people didn't know what that was before then.
In 2014 the Playstation 4 was brand new. Most people still used Xbox 360.
If you were 10 years old then you still couldn't drink in America
If something hasn't been revisited in the almost-monthly releases of supplemental cash grabs since that time period, why would it matter now? Perpetual clinging to the past is for maladjusted adults.
>my 9 years, 11 months and 30 days old lore is based and relevant
>your 10 years old lore is cringe and irrelevant
>new means good, after all
>players of a video game should play the 20-year old games and know intricate lore to understand the current game rather than attempting to make a AAA game approachable
Yes, because video games don't just magically dissappear in the year 2023, and you have access to almost everything ever made via the power of the internet.
The same can be said to rpgs.
It's more that if you did not release a new, revised version on whatever you try to claim as canon, then there isn't much option other than using the old material for reference, is there? specially for stuff you mentioned to exist but never developed on it.
Way too many stuff in DnD 5e is
>Look at all these cool places!
-Nice, so how do they work? what do they do?
> ¯_(ツ)_/¯
>t. Battlefield dev
The death of legacy is why societies die.
This is why we should only let landowners vote.
No, it's why we shouldn't let private profit be the sole incentive for anything, and why capitalist corporations shouldn't dictate anything.
No one's going to fix your pipes and give you food for a commission anon
>We've had three presidents and six prime ministers in that time
I have had zero prime ministers because I don't know or care what country you're from.
I think he was only referring to relevant countries, so it's okay.
>six prime ministers in that time
Englandbros...
They mean for 5e,which uses alot of lore from 3.5 already so you know eat ass.
>canonical
>ttrpg
huh?
>D&D
>canon
Who cares? Only soulless golems use official setting material.
Go back to your containment thread. Only morons and shills give a frick about 5e
Hasbro has no say in how I play Dungeons & Dragons.
Stop asking questions, just consume product and get excited for next products.
>i want to play in the forgotten realms
>5e left out some detail i liked about it in its books
>me/ my DM simply includes that detail back in for our home game
>problem solved
You would have figured this solution out on your own if you actually played games
>Mystara is not canon
>Ergo it is out of Wotc's control
I see no downsides to this.
I what language are you posting?
Written
What is this moronic damage control about? I don't have twitter
The post is years old.
It was around the time when Chinese Americans were complaining about how everyone likes Japan and not China, but masked it as white people wrote Oriental Adventures and that's bad! But were careful to avoid talking about Kara Tur because that was written by Mike Pondsmith.
Well that's easy, China has no culture beyond wuxia. Japan is cool
I take the opposite approach.
If it was printed after the year 2014, it's the fevered imaginings of a tramp and not canon.
>banning the past
where have I seen this one before?
"D&D canon" doesn't, never has, and never will, affect what I make.
You ban the past only when you are not able to create something better in comparison, be it a continuation or a completely new thing. Only those who have read 5e books can tell if previous sentence is right or wrong in the context of this discussion, since I am not qualified.
>ban
Calling an old book non canon in relation to a new book isn't a ban.
>You ban the past
lol
Old players are using the old books, and they're just skimming the new books for ideas. Just like the newer players are using the new books and skimming the old ones for ideas. That's how this ecosystem works.
>Old players are using the old books, and they're just skimming the new books for ideas.
Maybe some of them do this.
>Just like the newer players are using the new books and skimming the old ones for ideas.
Lolno. New players either nosedive into the old books or just ignore them completely.
>That's how this ecosystem works.
You don't understand words you're using.
This is standard procedure nowadays. See, the people taking charge of beloved IPs are, by and large, talentless fricking hacks. They need the brand power of the IP for people to accept the absolute slop they produce, but they also cannot allow the previous work, made by people with actual talent, to compete with them or it will simply highlight their complete and total lack of ability. Therefore, the 'Brand' is pushed, it's history suppressed and if anyone asks, well 'it's always been this way' or 'the old way was problematic'. It's a bunch of talentless hacks trying to cover their ass and trick people into buying their bullshit.
Best post. I hate to watch people keep buying slop from people that hate them. Whether it's shows, movies or games, these wretches don't deserve a dime of your money or an ounce of your attention. If it was mere incompetence, I could pity them. But it's hatred of everything you liked about it and it shows. Stop giving your time and energy to those who wish you harm.
canonicity wank is the worst nerd shit
it's especially pointless for settings that you're supposed to create your own stories for
Isn’t forgotten realms canon decided by Ed greenwood and not wotc
Ed gets to publish for it, but so does Hasbro, I'm not sure what the details are but if you ask me Ed's version is always canon.
Ed can write whatever he wants as long as it's not NDA'd topics.
If an official publication says otherwise, then that is the canon.
He does not decide official publications.
Please, nothing is worse than loregays pretending there is continuity between things made by completely different people
>the government should dictate D&D "canon"
you guys are pretty funny
I'm not telling you that the government should dictate D&D canon, I'm telling you that it already does, because Hasbro is government.
Holy... So, who should I blame for the current state of Forgotten Realms? Obama, Trump or Biden?
Bill Clinton. Seriously.
Blame anyone who didn't vote for Jimmy Carter, he was the last nonshill president we'll ever have.
Canonical? Canonical for D&D? Canonical for what is a rules system and not a setting? What the frick does this even mean? Is he using D&D as a shorthand for Forgotten Realms?
That's fine because the lore for D&D has always been shit, which is why I make my own. Anyone who runs official settings, especially if they aren't running a module, shouldn't be a GM.
I don't care about anything D&D after 2007.
Without getting into whether canon for DnD matters, is there supposed to be something objectionable about the current edition of any RPG considering the current edition rather than previous editions canon?
I don't consider Crawford canon, he doesn't exist to me
Also what do you expect of the guy who tweet'd that he wants monks out and has been giving them shit on purpose so the fanbase stops asking for them? he's a piece of shit
>pretending to have canon in a game where the homosexuals in charge never released a core setting book
>If it was printed after year 2014, it does not exist.