If pokemon made a proper 2D game in the current year I would pay 10x more just to have it.
I'm sick of the 3Dslop bros.
I'm having to play romhacks and fangames but you know it could be so much better.
If pokemon made a proper 2D game in the current year I would pay 10x more just to have it.
Ok, but since you know that will never happen, have you played any indie 2d "monster tamer" game?
Not OP, but I played Monster Sanctuary a little while back, and it really gave me a new appreciation for pokemon. I liked the monsters and the story was tolerable, but every fight was just a fricking slog. If you're fighting more than one monster at a time, which you usually are, your just going to be there forever. Right at the start of the series pokemon figured out a way to make turn-based battles feel fast and intense, and its a feature no knockoff series has managed to imitate.
you would pay 700$ to play 2d pokemon made by gamefreak? lol
Oh right so would I. No big studio makes 2D games anymore. This seems much more sovlful than nu-pokemon.
I'd pay 10*0
If it includes the new console and it is good, yeah.
I meam, have you seen what people are paying for Emerald, Crystal, HG/SS on ebay to do exactly that? Pokegays are made of money and hate emulation
yes
What game?
Can't you see the slowpoke well over yonder?
It's just an artist's mockup. No game has been made.
it's ai slop
moron
It's not a game and it's not AI.
https://retroredrawn.com/johto/
I hate these overdesigned GB slop "fan" mockups. I hate this little homosexual coward hiding away in some hidden discord instead of posting his fangame progress on twitter.l
kneel
I would pay 10x as much to frick that vaporeon.
why do you crave faux-GBC graphics? could have asked for SNES-tier at least.
>why do you crave faux-GBC graphics?
I think the idea is that it's GBC style because Gold/Silver was a GBC game
>why do you crave faux-GBC graphics?
Because Pokemon started out as a Game Boy franchise?
Found them all. Umbreon is sneaky.
Most of bottom is caused by the DS's shit resolution and not the spritework itself. I'd blame the DS, but they were the ones who chose to use 3D on it knowing it's a 140p screen. You can upscale in emulator to see the sprites properly if it bothers you.
>Most of bottom is caused by the DS's shit resolution
You’re a moron who needs to play more DS games.
>sprite rip vs native screenshots
>"y-you're a wetawd"
Those sprite suck donkey dick because GameFreak is incompetent on top of scaling their sprites in ways that obviously look awful. No Pokemon game has ever been graphically impressive for its time.
What place are the lights in the distance supposed to be
>What place
That place is the future we could have had if GF was competent.
Was gonna say Goldenrod, but that's south of Ecruteak, and there's nothing but mountains beyond that.
What these shitters don't realize that the GBC cart is literally just that entire map.
what Gamefreak should have done, 20 years ago.
is for the GBA they should have made a game with GBC graphics, and three regions, it asks questions at the beginning of the game to determine which of a dozen versions you're playing. ensuring there's a lot of variety, and only needing sell one cartridge.
there should have been two "save" slots, one is for playing the game, the other is for storing pokemon only. even if you start a new game, all the pokemon you have ever caught but not chosen to release should be in their storage slot.
when the DS came around they should have avoided a mainline entry. instead they make Pokemon Stadium 3. you put the GBA game into the slot, you put the new game into the DS slot, and you fight online against other people using all the pokemon you have caught from the GBA, in glorious 3D battles.
idc what they do anymore in this or the other timeline.
literally addressed the point, you could use your pokemon still, or you could assemble a full ensemble across the regions.
I probably should say too, that the dozen versions don't determine which pokemon are in the game, but their placement density. it might be easier to trade for them, or it might be easier to lather on some potion and mull around in some area. whatever.
the point is that there were a slew of opportunities in two decades for Gamefreak to wow gamers.
there will never be an opportunity for a GBA + DS combination ever again.
>this is your whole why ultimate idea is game pretty damn shitty <3
What?
I'm sorry your for dyslexia.
>aboriginal idea is hhhhaaaardd
nah, your image is fricking moronic
Don't blame the image for your low IQ brain.
it presupposes way too much about someone else's idea, it's absolutely ludacris you thought it was an "own".
you tricked yourself into thinking you or someone else put in a lot of thought, when clearly it's punctuated by someone who has become jaded and cynical.
it reads as a fricking apology for Gamefreak, it's absolutely revolting.
>Baby got triggered this hard
respond to the top two comments in the chain then, moron.
>nb4 can't
why would they put lugia instead of ho-oh for ekrutek
Nighttime, Ho-oh is in the day picture.
Brass Tower (now Burned Tower) was the roost of Lugia
I've never paid money to any project before but I'd throw cash at anyone who would turn this into a real game
I never understand what are those lights on the right corner, they look like a reflex on the water, but Lake of Rage is not there
Holy shit this is atrocious lmao
No sense of equilibrium, no color theory, no classic sprite work. Basically a zoomer mocking of what actual soul looked like
Leave games to game devs
The world could not handle that much SOVL
Yeah, he should post it publicly so pokegays and nintengays can report them to NCIS for plagiarism and take it down
>Overdesigned
Why do Pokemon fans only know this word and "Edgy?" I can always spot you mongrels from a mile away
Right, that's the problem, the games being 3D instead of 2D. You cracked the code, OP, I'm so proud of you.
Is it weird that even the music sounded better in the 2d games as well?
No that's just nostalgia, Pokemon music was never good
An okay melody, but the 8-bit sounds are ear rape, sorry this is nostalgia
>8-bit sounds are ear rape
You might need to get your ears checked.
I love it so we're just going to have to disagree.
I am sorry anon but your brain is too biased to make a rational decision here, the music sounds awful
Next you'll tell everyone that this sounds awful.
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAuaugGRHHAAAAAaa
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
that's the good shit
>muh 8-bit
fine, I'll entertain your shit taste anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVqSyNb7pUo
Yeah music got worse and worse since X and Y
music is the one thing that has remained consistently good in Pokemon
it's just as good as ever
you just don't have the same emotional investment in it because you don't associate the tracks with good games
Absolutely wrong. The quality since XY has dipped and has been really inconsistent. Also the first gen where they started to include techno garbage for a lot of their soundtracks.
> The quality since XY has dipped and has been really inconsistent
Prove it.
>Also the first gen where they started to include techno garbage for a lot of their soundtracks
Man, Unovagays sure have this weird habit of taking things their gen did and blaming it on gen 6.
>janky as frick and out of place 3D models sprinkled into the overworld
So we're counting B/W as 2D now?
samegay with shit taste detected
BW was the last good 2D pokemon game
2>1>3>4>5
5 looks like they used some blurry filter that smudged all the pixels.
3rd gen truly was the peak.
N's theme is unmatched
True but the PLA ost is a return to form
Don't mind me, I'm just posting these here because adblock doesn't work on youtube but it's fine for embedded videos.
Johto will always be one of my top regions, the aesthetic the music, the history. Just all good shit.
Johto is great and no amount of challenge run/YouTuber autism telling zoomers that it's bad for their runs will influence my thoughts.
Agreed, yes, a lot of Johto mons are ass stats wise, yes Dark types should have been available soon, and YES the level curve is also ass, but dammit, it's got that charm, a game that the devs thought was gonna be their last game in the IP, when they thought Pokemania's ending was gonna be the end. Part of me wishes those mons from the Space world demo got it, like if GF had the time to truly go all out with Gen 2.
If Pokemon made 2D games in the current year, they would look like mobile shit with the Pokemon sprites being stock assets.
>if Nintendo made a good Pokemon
Why spend money making a good game when you can make a bad one and sell as much as a good one?
3Dbros, I don't feel so good...
>Gary dragging his dead rat to the graveyard tower
lel thanks for pointing that out
>said tower gets replaced with a radio tower three years later
>all the dead bodies moved to an old man's house
Such is life.
I think that the modern non-tilebased pilxel games look ugly and uncanny.
Hand-drawn 2D graphics on the other hand, are gourgeus.
>still brain dead east press a for 40hrs gameplay
>still barebones turn based without a fun mechanic.
>still ducking cool palworld that showed pokemon how its done.
yeah frick that. there are romhacks for your 2d itch.
>palworld
only the most braindead people on this planet think palworld is at all showing pokemon how anything should be done, they're completely different games genre wise. Pokemon doesn't need to take lessons from a derivative survival crafting game, because it's a turn based JRPG.
>dozens of games exist in the Monster Battling genre
>People still believe that Pokemon is the only option
Frick, you people are sad.
they're all so fricking shit compared to pokemon though
>all so fricking shit compared to pokemon
Yeah, man. i get it.
it being pretty doesn't stop the gameplay from being
"Garchomp used Earthquake"
"Trainer Dickhead was defeated"
>2DHD slop
get out of my board
I love Crobat so fricking much, why isn't he in SV?
I think they could've stuck with the style of Black and white, lowpoly 3D environs with sprites for characters just looked so good.
>get the artists who worked with Tengo Project to do the art
>get SuperSweep to do the music
>introduce a heavily abstracted movement mechanic and close/near/far ranges that affect attacks
>add moves that "change stances" and allow Pokemon to use multiple movesets at once
>include Mystery Dungeon as an extra gamemode or in-universe video game
There, I have fixed Pokemon. Give me all the money
>I would pay 10x more
No you wont, your name is Rodriguez and all you do is either playing bootleg games or hacked roms.
They just have to release a 2d game with 999% soul poured into it, the same way a hobbyist or spriter mock-up would do for a pokemon game.
People want something to be drawn into with child-like wonder and curiosity at all the lovingly hand-placed details, they want to move around in a world that feels alive- but not super realistic- they need something they can immerse themselves in and feel joy at seeing
OP's example is perfect
Can you imagine if it was a real game? fans would go crazy
Waiting for pokemon coral
The trailers looked amazing, I haven't kept up on the news for a long while. Gen2 graphics are very kino.
Ye Crystal graphics are very comfy.
post the trailers
also qrd?
I could only find this one.
That's actually not too bad looking.
You would and I would and 90% of people who play Pokemon games would not so they never will.
>I'm having to play romhacks and fangames but you know it could be so much better.
Pokemon can't even make a 2d game better than some of the quality romhacks. It's over, Pokemon is corporate trash now.
Are there any fangames or modes that actually look like this? Looks cozy as frick
Reborn/Rejuvination/Uranium/Insurgence/Clover/Zeta/Omicron/Desolation
Those look nothing like what he was asking for.
There are no games that look that comfy yet
Pokemon wouldn't look like that even if they went back to 2D. At best it would look like the DS games.
Smorr indie company preasu undastand
And yet still 100x better than the 3d slop
>it’s better because I grew up with it
no one cares
It's better because it looks better dipshit
>clearly doesn’t look better
what did schizo-kun mean by this?
Go ahead, pick any 3d model and the sprite version and let's compare.
>compare so I can just mindlessly say it looks better with zero references or objective facts to back it up
No thanks.
> No, it's disingenuous because that FFT map is fricking tiny compared to the zones you load into for the pokemon games, so of course it's going to be more detailed
Bowser’s Inside Story’s overworld is far fricking bigger than any of BW’s maps and it looks 10x better. Stop making moronic excuses.
>NOOOOO 3D ISN'T SLOP
This you?
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Bottom is fine.
im sure it is, for you..
Aw sweet the gen 5 schizo is back
>bottom section is mostly just gen 5 images
They wont because making shit games with interns and new staff gives a better return in money.
It's all about money now, games dont have to run well if they can sell plushies of that one thing you liked before your switch burst into flames.
I mean, could it be so much better? Has GF ever made anything as fun as the best romhacks?
>GF
Nope
>All the other studios that worked on spinoffs
Yes
What Gamefreak should do in order to insure that the next big game has good quality, is get a third party to remaster old games in 2DHD, not like the shit BDSP games, while they work on the new game alongside an experienced company. They won't do that of course, because they're too greedy.
>remaster the old games in this ugly as frick art style that’s the worst of both worlds of 2D and 3D
No thanks.
I mean only as a way for them to have more time to work on a new game since they seem determined to release a new game or DLC every year.
Then make a romhack of it, hell add your own Pokemon to it if you want.
People wanna b***h and moan about "Pokemon should do this, Pokemon should do that." Well you have the tools at your disposal to do all that shit, so do it and stop b***hing.
Even then, a game made by Gamefreak would look nothing like that. Take those trees for instance. They're not uniform. Gamefreak is incapable of making a game that doesn't just copy/paste the same tiles ad nauseum. All forests are just the exact same tree copied and pasted over and over and perfectly neat rows.
To be fair to them, that is how a lot of 2D sprite work works. It's layered across the board. Now does that excuse them for not making new trees for new areas and so on? No, but typically speaking for a singular area them all being the same makes a lot of sense in terms of the way mapping and tilesets work.
I wouldn't pay 10x more but they should have done that a decade ago instead of moving to shitty 3D. Or if they move to 3D then at least put some effort into it.
>Or if they move to 3D then at least put some effort into it.
They did. And then morons like OP cried about it killing the series.
Incredibly disingenuous pic all around.
>it’s disingenous because it shows actual evidence of game I like being shit
No, it's disingenous because you're picking extremely specific examples in order to prove a point. I could do the exact same and make Pokemon look like complete shit in 3D, just the same as I could in 2D. Just the same as I could pick examples of Pokemon looking great in both 2D/3D in comparison. It's disingenuous and you know it.
> I could do the exact same and make Pokemon look like complete shit in 3D,
Go ahead and do it then. Compare Sun and Moon to other 3DS games and convince me Sun and Moon looks bad.
Sun and Moon gave me hope for 3d.
It was decent however it's what happened after that that ruined everything.
You're completely disregarding SWSH and SnV
This is what they want now and the next game will be the same damn thing
>and the next game will be the same damn thing
And that is a good thing
No, it's disingenuous because that FFT map is fricking tiny compared to the zones you load into for the pokemon games, so of course it's going to be more detailed.
Also something you and most other people never ever fricking mention is how much memory is taken up by the thousand pokmone + trainer models, something that no other game on the same or similar hardware comes even remotely close to.
This might be the most moronic post I've seen all week.
>it’s moronic which is why I can’t actually form an argument against it
smartest 2dgay
Pray for 2D palworld
Gamefreak 2D games where Blastoise fires its cannons: 0
Gamefreak 3D games where Blastoise fires its cannons: 1
Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl came out and you just b***hed about it.
2d soul. instead we get shitty 3d open world games
PAL, no one what's more pokemon, we're tired
being 2d isn't going to somehow stop gamefreak from being creatively bankrupt. I'm not sure that they can even design a dungeon anymore
I encourage you all to play or at least check out Monster Sanctuary, pic is from ps4 but it's on PC/switch too.
It's not perfect but feels polished for a monster catching game which seems to be a dead genre outside of pokemon for the most part. I enjoyed it a lot.
I just want a gen 1 only game that let's me play as Team Rocket. For real, my primary issue with modern pokemon games is that I hate every design I've seen. The last post-gen 1 pokemon I really enjoy are Aron & Lairon. Love my tanky boys
How did Gamefreak expect kids to encounter the legendary dogs?
It's absurd how 3D ruined SO many franchises
no it fricking wouldn't
Going into Kanto in gen II is just ripped from Dragon Quest III
when talking about 2d pokemon how come no one seems to bring up ranger. I k ow it's not be gamefreak but I would cream over a main game in its style
because nobody cared
Romhacks and fangames are better than mainline pokemon.