if singles battles and rom hacks are so easy why havent you beaten emerald kaizo yet? if you have post your hof and what strat you used
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if singles battles and rom hacks are so easy why havent you beaten emerald kaizo yet?
if singles battles and rom hacks are so easy why havent you beaten emerald kaizo yet? if you have post your hof and what strat you used
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It's strange, Kaizo is the biggest thing going on the pokemon community but /vp/ doesnt talk about it
Probably because Kaizo shit has always been artificial difficulty.
But so are nuzlockes and that gets talked about more. Personally after playing Kaizo I cant go back to nuzlockes or normal pokemon. Also ive beaten Emerald
Unless you enjoy seething about Jan and rare candies and posting about how cute your shitmon team is, there is zero meaningful Nuzlocke discussion happening here.
/vp/ doesn't play the games, just complain and post porn. If you want actual gameplay discussion, you're not getting it here.
I did a casual playthrough of it years ago, but a hardcore nuzlocke is out of my skill level. I think I just used a generic OU team with the buffed Dusclops, nothing special.
>romhacks are the games
yes
Because half of /vp/ is just a target of trolling for the sharty discord
Yeah, its really odd. 75% of a board about "Pokemon" is about humans who aren't even interesting, they just look nice so its just porn and thinly veiled porn. Another 10% is about porn of Pokemon themselves. Then again this is a series with no interesting changes in quite a while.
This, /vp/ doesn't really contribute anything, there are no OC threads nor research threads anymore. Nobody does RNG manipulation, or even speedruns... I think
is onto something, I think /vp/ don't even play the games anymore.
The OC threads are kinda sad whenever I go to them honestly. But that may be the Pokemon fandom as a whole or the internet in its current state and I can't tell which.
if even /vp/ can recognize your hack is shit you know you've fricked up.
It's for a very small niche of people who want to get fricked by a ROM hack. I think it's cool, but I'm not interested because I'm not necessarily interested in games that are hard to be hard.
because I don't play GARBAGE
>no level caps
>thus you can just steamroll all the gyms with 1 or 2 pokemon, and because every trainer has 6 pokemon you get a ton of exp so that's not even hard to do
>until you reach the league, where everything is level 100 but then the game sells rare candies for 1$
*yawn*
>the game sells rare candies for 1$
What's with every shit hack doing something like this?
Some PokeTuber hates grinding and somehow that convinced the entire nuzlocke community to add Rare Candies into their hacks.
If you were talking about the $1 thing, ignore my post.
> midwitt take
No, you moron. The issue is that Jan is a G*rm and G*rms can't have fun biologically so it's just him optimizing fun out of nuzlockes, the logical endpoint of nuzlockes is a puzzle/resource management game with rng checks.
Jan being a G*rm he arrived to that conclusion earlier than the community and ruined nuzlockew for everyone.
>I didn't play the games, just post bait
So yeah,
is correct.
I did play it. I picked Treecko, I got to Roxanne and then she beat me up. Then I realized the game doesn't punish you or stop you from overleveling at all, which was a surprise to me because I know other hard hacks like Reborn or Radical Red did that, but I just got Grovyle and at level 19 or 20 I beat her.
Then I got to Brawly, but just kept using Grovyle because training up other team members was too hard and pretty much pointless, so I beat him easily too.
I didn't run into any trouble until the game started to make gym battles doubles, so then I just trained up a new Pokemon, Arcanine, and kept doing the same thing now with 2 Pokemon. The game gives you multiple Lucky Eggs too after Norman, so it's not even hard.
If you want a Pokemon game to be difficult and enforce difficulty, you need to have level caps. There's no argument.
counterpoint: level caps are gay
Or you could have a modicum of willpower and not do that.
It was very easy to overlevel, because every trainer has 6 Pokemon and gives lots of exp. It would have taken far more effort to try and stay beneath gym leaders' levels with a balanced team. Why expend that effort if the game doesn't make me?
It's not like other games. Sure, in a lot of hard RPGs I can grind up to level 100 after hours of grinding in just the first area to make it easier. But Emerald Kaizo and any Pokemon game without level caps makes it that just the most efficient way to play the game is to be overpowered. It doesn't work if you want to make a hard RPG.
>every trainer has 6 Pokemon and gives lots of exp
This is simply not true. What is Sceptile doing against the plethora of Crobats, Gengars, fast boomers etc.? You aren't killing them even when overleveled. Why are you spewing so much bullshit?
> Crobat
Rock tomb ohkos
> fast boomers
wtf is that?
>fricking rock tomb
>i don't remember
kekaroo
glad to see /vp/ continues to larp about playing the games
I asked someone where to find documentation, and found it. There's 9 trainers in the whole game, out of 300, that use Crobat. One being Phoebe, and I had a full team for the E4 thanks to the rare candy shop.
Also yeah, I probably used Rock Tomb, a Rock Tomb from a Sceptile 20 levels above a Crobat who has middling defenses is going to kill it.
>didn't explain what 'fast boomers' were
I accept your concession.
I'm not arguing about the difficulty of the main games, I'm arguing about the difficulty of a romhack. All main games are easy since they don't have level caps. Unless that's also a yawngay-coded thing to say.
What's wrong with Rock Tomb? You get it early on from Roxanne and the treecko line can learn it, overleveling you can definitely OHKO with it.
Also, why didn't you anwer wtf you meant by "Fast boomer"? Like a fast explosion user (Electrode)?
>Lvl 60 0 SpA Sceptile Leaf Blade vs. Lvl 38 0 HP / 0+ SpD Registeel: 34-41 (25.1 - 30.3%)
>Lvl 38 0 Atk Registeel Ancient Power vs. Lvl 60 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 17-21 (10.4 - 12.8%)
>Lvl 60 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Tomb vs. Level 39 0 HP / 0 Def Crobat: 79-94 (62.2 - 74%)
>Lvl 39 0 Atk Crobat Poison Fang vs. Lvl 60 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 71-84 (43.5 - 51.5%)
>Lvl 60 0 SpA Sceptile Leaf Blade vs. Lvl 38 0 HP / 0 SpD Dusclops: 86-102 (67.1 - 79.6%)
>Lvl 38 Dusclops Seismic Toss vs. Lvl 60 0 HP Sceptile: 38-38 (23.3 - 23.3%)
gay Black person bait and /vp/ is full of homosexuals
It's ok, anyone who tried EK knows they're bullshitting through their fricking teeth lmao.
>DUUUUUDE HERE'S LE MATH AND SOIENCE TO DEBOONK YOU USING THIS ENTIRELY MADE UP HEADCANON LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS SWEETUMS
Didn't read. have a nice day gay.
He means, I think, Pokemon that use Quick Claw or Brightpowder or Focus Band, and then will try and use Explosion to get a free kill. Or Destiny Bond. Which is what he would be saying instead of muh Crobat if he played the game.
None of those are very hard to deal with, you die once to them a couple times and almost always just win the next attempt since they catch you with strats using very unlikely RNG.
Jej
Frick off Yawngay.
Stop replying to yourself, it's very easy to look at your IP.
>NOOOOO my shitposting's ruined
Lol. Cope.
> Registeel out of nowhere
> Dusclops out of nowhere
> Ignores that other anon mentioned raising an Arcanine which probably had INTIMIDATE.
> 0 Atk
> Suddenly Swords Dance doesn't exist
Still haven't answered what "fast boomer" is.
Black person i thought you played ek? this is clearly maxie 1
>fast boomer
nta but lmao dude. use your brain
> Add ONE (1) Swords Dance:
+2 Lvl 60 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Tomb vs. Lvl 40 0 HP / 0 Def Crobat: 166-196 (127.6 - 150.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 Lvl 60 0 Atk Sceptile Crunch vs. Lvl 40 0 HP / 0 Def Dusclops: 146-174 (155.3 - 185.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>implying you get swords dance
LMAO i'm fricking done
Sceptile gets Swords Dance though or did they denied the move in the hack?
I'm speaking as someone who has played Gen 3 comp and know most of the learnsets.
no you get virtually no stat boosting moves
that's how you make growth sunflora op in nuzlockes
Are X items disabled in EK? otherwise you can boost with them instead of Swords Dance.
you can't use items in battle, but it doesn't really matter. just an overlevelled sceptile is enough to destroy most of the game with no issue
Let's not forget Flannery, which has infinite sun up. Have fun killing shit with fricking Rock Tomb kek.
> Have fun killing shit with Rock Tomb
> Lvl 60 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Tomb vs. Lvl 42 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard: 160-192 (123 - 147.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Huh?
Now post the other 5 mons and the Chlorophyll gym leader trainers B)
I just checked and it looks like you can get Rock Slide with Sceptile. So what
actually looks like is
Lvl 60 0 Atk Sceptile Double Kick (2 hits) vs. Lvl 38 0 HP / 0 Def Registeel: 56-68 (46.6 - 56.6%) -- approx. 82% chance to 2HKO
>Lvl 38 0 Atk Registeel Ancient Power vs. Lvl 60 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 17-21 (10.4 - 12.8%)
Lvl 60 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 39 0 HP / 0 Def Crobat: 107-126 (84.2 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>Lvl 39 0 Atk Crobat Poison Fang vs. Lvl 60 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile: 71-84 (43.5 - 51.5%)
Lvl 60 0 SpA Sceptile Crunch vs. Lvl 38 0 HP / 0 SpD Dusclops: 93-110 (103.3 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>Lvl 38 Dusclops Seismic Toss vs. Lvl 60 0 HP Sceptile: 38-38 (23.3 - 23.3%)
sure, not all of these are OHKOs. but they're 2HKOs at absolute worst that can become OHKOs if you bump the level up a bit more. I said 20 levels above it as a general statement not a precise number, unless you're autistic
very strange to me why EKtards just lie or ignore evidence or don't seem to know much about their game. also, for the homosexuals crying about flannery, rock slide wrecks that entire gym
>kaizoBlack folk didn't even play the game they're shilling for
Hey! It's like I really am on /vp/!
nope, just checked and at level 65 with max IVs sceptile still can't guaranteed kill most of them.
gay Black person. seethe more.
obviously not
You wouldn't normally use a scale for Rock Slide either, that sounds dumb. But if you're doing a solo run then whatever. Enjoy doing everything after T&L with 2 mons 🙂
t&l is also very questionable. even at level 100 max IVs sceptile and arcanine can't one shot the leads. and enjoy using arcanine in rain lel
>lel
>:)
I hope the gender reassignment surgery goes well for both of you.
Did you have your gender reveal party on PokemonChallenges' discord?
hi yawngay
Hi eric
How Wallace and Juan go are
>Arcanine gets one shot
>Sceptile still can't one shot
>get two Ice Beams in its face
Lel. Incredible.
here's maxie's and flannery's teams. let's run down the list, using the calcs:
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Double Kick (2 hits) vs. Lvl 38 0 HP / 0 Def Registeel: 64-76 (53.3 - 63.3%) -- approx. 2HKO
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 39 0 HP / 0 Def Crobat: 124-146 (97.6 - 114.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
Claydol is nuked
Alakazam is nuked
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Crunch vs. Lvl 38 0 HP / 0 Def Dusclops: 90-108 (100 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Double Kick (2 hits) vs. Lvl 39 0 HP / 0 Def Houndoom: 140-168 (117.6 - 141.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
and now let's assume that in the 20 trainers all using 6 Pokemon between maxie and flannery, I didn't gain any levels whatsoever.
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 41 0 HP / 0 Def Ninetales: 124-146 (100.8 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Charizard is nuked
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 42 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 64-76 (48.4 - 57.5%) -- 94.5% chance to 2HKO
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 41 0 HP / 0 Def Arcanine: 118-140 (86.1 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 42 0 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 118-140 (90.7 - 107.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
Lvl 65 0 Atk Sceptile Rock Slide vs. Lvl 42 0 HP / 0 Def Castform-Sunny: 128-152 (104 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
the sole issue to deal with across these teams is maybe blaziken, surely that will stop our based sceptile in its tracks?
Lvl 42 0 Atk Blaziken Blaze Kick vs. Lvl 65 0 HP / 0 Def Sceptile in Sun: 132-156 (70.9 - 83.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
you need a little luck, sure. but compared to clover, or unbound? it's barely anything at all.
emerald kaizo is an easy game. i'm sorry you had to find out this way but it's true.
lol the 65 and max IVs was in your favor btw. literally the best case with extra levels and you still need to reset constantly. lol.
Oh no I might have to reset twice instead of once, it might take 20 more seconds
I gave you me not gaining 4 or 5 more levels from all the exp so I have no idea what your point is
>twice
nope, look at your calcs. losing one roll means you lose. enjoy the 2/16 roll lol
archie is also pretty shit. arcanine dies to the dog leads and you get to deal with sludge bomb metagross and dragonite kek
i ran some unrealistic calcs with level 75 sceptile and arcanine with max IVs on winona and they still die to eq/sky attack. gotta love spread rock slide not killing shit
Victory Road is also basically impossible. I have no idea how you're getting through Vito with two mons
Drxx the goat
Based and checked, King
Did you factor in Dusclops' buffed stats? Dusclops and Sableye especially recievee massive buffs in the hack
>Crobat
I barely remember any of these.
>Gengar
You get Crunch very early on in the version I played.
>fast boomers
Such as? I think I lost once or twice to some Quick Claw Explosion. But then I just..went back and tried again and didn't get Quick Claw. Not hard at all.
>Why are you spewing so much bullshit
Sorry I tried to play your game like a normal person instead of a 'pro nuzlocker'.
i played through early game EK like this and it still isn't that easy. even if you're overleveled, the opponents have better mons, stats, items, and moves than you do. you can't spam items and you don't get EVs. iirc i was like level 60 on maxie 1 against his level 40s and still struggled. grinding new mons on the vanilla rom is a giant pain in the ass
There is an increase in difficulty for Maxie and Flannery and you have to grind a separate Pokemon for Norman which takes a long time, that's true. But that's pretty much it.
Compare this to Clover, Radical Reddit, Inclement Emerald, Unbound, all of the early gyms in those games are a lot harder, why? Because they don't let you overlevel. Even if they might not have the same kind of restrictions or threat level of Kaizo opponents.
It's only like that for the first few routes, and as said trainers give so much exp anyway and there's so many trainers that the game makes you fight that it's not really a factor.
The thing about Emerald Kaizo is that the creator makes encounters soooooooooooooo infrequent that even with speed-up grinding is insufferably slow, you can get around this with a Pokemon that knows Sweet Scent though
Damn, these people complaining dont even know what Kaizo is lmao
If you aren't playing a nuzlocke, it's still much easier and more formulaic than competitive battling. If you are nuzlocking, it's just a series of RNG checks (lose if you miss particular encounters, lose if you get crit at this particular time, etc.)
If I wanted to play a hard game, I would play a real JRPG and not a fundamentally broken Pokémon ROM hack.
This schizobabble about Sceptile reminded me of MDDG's old nuzlocke videos. He grinded his Swampert to 70 for the Maxie fight and it still almost died.
not too surprising, swampert is not great in ek because so many mons it counters has hp grass. you want sceptile to make roxanne and lategame easier (with a full team rofl) or roll a good blaziken for an e4 mon
I don't play bad games.
>B-But!
I don't play bad games.
>I just go into threads about them
OP asked the question, I gave honest question and some silly homosexual (that's you) is seething about it because they can't refute it. Funny.
Holy esl
hi yawngay
Love that not a single person posted their HoF team, I'm dead.
Sorry, I haven't successfully hardcore nuzlocked it yet.