If they wanted Moltres to makes sense for Victory Road (and maintain the 3 bird locations forming a triangle on the map) they could have just made Victory Road more warmer and volcanic in the remakes with some wild fire type mons rather than moving it to Mt. Ember and Mt. Silver
moving it made far more sense. having it in Victory Road sucks ass
That's too much to expect from Masuda.
NOOOO GEN 1 AND MASUDA ARE BASED, SHUT UP THEY AREN'T JUST DUMB HACKS, TAJIRI ISN'T JUST A LUCKY BASEMENT DWELLER WHICH WROTE A CONCEPT AND MANAGED TO SELL HIS TERRIBLE GAME ANYWAY!!!
any three points forms a triangle
In what way is this not a triangle with height zero?
Because it is not made up of three interior angles with total sum of 180 degrees.
It makes no sense being in the corner of a cave. I know Articuno is also in a cave but at least it was a platform inside a watery cave. Earlier in the game you can see Articuno flying towards the sea, so maybe it perched there to catch fish for a while. Moltres is just sitting in the corner of a cave doing frick knows what.
I also dislike HGSS re-adding them because I prefer to think they don't live in these places permanently. I felt like they were similar to roaming mons in habitat. Red just happened to encounter them in these places. Mewtwo especially felt like it just sought strong opponents so it was hanging in Cerulean Cave a while after escaping Cinnabar. Not living in it for 3+ years.
moltres articuno and zapdos have been seen more than once, they are a species, not single individuals, like lati@s
Proof?
pretty sure I saw screenshots of several zapdos in one shot but I can't find anything in bulbapedo right now. If you count spin offs, in snap you throw eggs into the lava and moltres emerges, which means they can reproduce in some form.
>count spin offs
No, why would I? There's only 1 Zapdos. Closest we have to another Zapdos is the Galarian bird mistakenly called Zapdos by the people who live in that backwards ass region.
> thinking birds are unique in 2023
There is definitely more than 1 of most legendary pokemon considering there are a lot of trainers in game who have them or are able to have them simultaneously as you or another trainer. The frontier brains are no strangers to owning pokemon like the legendary birds, dogs, and even regis. Although the anime is hardly canon at all either, they usually talk about pokemon in the plural. Like in the 4ever movie, on the subject of suicune, Oak says he "saw a suicune" saying "a" implies there's more than one. Now that the movies are canon too, we know Ash has met with three different articunos. One that lived in the orange islands, one that lived in the icy mountains of johto, and one owned by a frontier brain. Being a legendary pokemon usually just means that you're so rare that barely anyone has seen or owned them before and little is known about them. In HGSS you literally have Arceus birth a new Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, despite that Pokemon having to have existed already. Legendary is not God status, it's just a rare, elusive, and usually more powerful creature
he was already btfo, but it is fun to see him get even more btfo.
NTA but doesn't Lugia canonically has a baby or something? why couldn't there be more than one Zapdos
I think there is more than one of each legendary dog too, which is much weirder considering their origin story with Ho-oh resurrecting the dead Pokemon
because it just can't be, since morons gonna moron. doesn't count that you can catch them several times in multiple games, either.
I think the legendary dogs are a very explicit example of having multiple mons of the same species. We have Entei and Suicune, but we also have shiny Entei and shiny Suicune with that Zoroark event
I am sure i remember a movie or anime pic with several zapdos or moltres, but can't find it.
Fish also existed in the anime, that shit isn't relevant to the games.
keep the copium up. Again, even them being in several games so you can catch them proves you wrong by default.
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The Dex entry for Entei also states that one is born every time a volcano erupts.
It doesn't, that's from the anime. I've never seen Lugia with a baby in the games. There also isn't more than one legendary dog.
>There also isn't more than one legendary dog.
Wouldn't the ones from Unova necessarily be different from the ones in Johto, since they are shiny?
There's no indication of them being necessarily shiny on GSC (and you usually find them non-shiny anyway), and the Generations clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rga9wUdKRk8) shows them as normal instead of shinies. So I assume they can't be the same ones from the Zoroark event.
Now you're just being moronic, other anon is right, entries dex straight up implies there are more than 1 entei. The legend of the burned tower is just a local legend. There's nothing that prevents ho-oh from creating more than one of each beast or the beasts reproducing through some crazy means
>there's only one Zapdos
Then how is it present in HGSS/DPPt if Red caught him?
Simple answer: he didn't. Supported by the fact that none of them are on his team.
>Then how is it present in HGSS/DPPt if Red caught him?
thats because RGBY and GSC are in the original continuity where there is only one of each of the legendary pokemon (as god intended), and every subsequent game is set in other, moronic timelines, where multiples of each legendary exist because they need you to make youtube videos basedpogging about catching a mewtwo for the 10th time in as many years
In the Let's Go games, you can catch an unlimited number of each of them.
>hatch from eggs in snap
>can explicitly obtain infinite amounts in LGPE roaming the overworld
>have regional variants
>doesn't even play the games
Better not be one of those people complaining about VGC players.
>single individuals
>like lati@s
The Latis are explicitly not unique. There have been multiple of them ever since their introduction.
Sure. You or the gay who claimed this was btfo more than once already, but it is fun of your part to humiliate yourself further.
You ran to say "BUT THE ASHNIME AND MOIES NOT CANON" and still got raped because the games have you catch them more than once. In stadium, one grunt has a fricking zapdos. GRUNT, not even giovanni himself. And some other npcs which I can't remember have them in the games. cope more, please.
I think he just worded that very poorly, he was probably trying to say "like the latis, they are not single individuals".
yeah fine but if they don't form a line then they form a triangle. it would be more interesting if they were in a line since that's much less likely.
there's also a triangle formed by vermillion city, palette town, and route 34
did you know that you can take any three random cities in any game and, as long as they're not all in a straight line, form a triangle with them? it shows how important triangles are to the pokemon worldbuilding process, which is why Mega Rayquaza, the delta (triangle) dragon, is the strongest pokemon.
the only reason you think Moltres being in Victory Road doesn't make sense is because every other region lazily copied Victory Road and didn't bother doing anything interesting with it except for just leaving it as shitty filler before the E4.
The only reason I think it didn't make sense is just because it's not volcanic themed area while the Power Plant and Seafoam Islands actually fit Zapdos electric theme and Articuno's ice theme
Let's Go adding some fire tourches nearby Moltres is the only attempt to make that area feel more fiery
All legendaries can breed and produce eggs, they just don't breed in captivity
>draws the line through the points instead of stopping at them
moron
Seafoam Islands is way too close to Victory Road to make it a perfect triangle
Tbh I had a much harder time finding Zapdos and the Power Plant zone when I was a kid. For a while I didn't even know it existed. I think I was biking one day around that route after getting Mewtwo and decided to Surf around and then discovered the plant that way. I thought Zapdos was the real final legendary.
>Using trASHnime as proof of anything
For a second my brain thought this was the font of the sprite not the back...
ebin
On a slight aside, I'm surprised they didn't do more with Mt. Moon. With extra areas to explore when you get strength or something.
all three birds should be on victory road
you should not have access to legendaries before that
they should only be capturable via masterball so you can only get one at most
simple as
don't catch em all in the monster collecting game, amazing take moron
you can't catch them all anyway. I take it you want the starter pokemon in the wild? you're supposed to trade you moron
Starters are at least breedable
have you ever played gen 1? kys
If you could move Moltres from victory road and put it somewhere else within RBY, where would it be and why?
You're not allowed to make a new location; it has to be somewhere pre-existing, BUT you can add a new room for Moltres to said location.
I kind of want to say Rock Tunnel; give it something other than being the worst Kanto dungeon. But that plus the power plant and cerulean cave makes the top right of the map very crowded.
Pokemon Mansion, has that abandoned feel, burned and destroyed with even fire type trainers around the area. But I like it better as something which foreshadows Mewtwo.
Uhh...Mt Moon? Like have a room that needs the player to come back with certain HMs or something? I'm starting to see why Moltres is on victory road...
Catching Articuno guaranteed an easy E4 sweep. I always made sure to get him when I was a kid because I knew I could Ice Beam Lance's entire team