If Yokai Watch scared Gamefreak into course-correcting for gen 7, then you can bet Palworld will definitely greatly influence gen 10's development. It's selling way better than Yokai Watch ever did and it's already similar enough to Legends Arceus as it is to the point Gamefreak can just adapt things from Palworld without fans batting an eye.
>It's selling way better than Yokai Watch ever did
I just looked it up and apparently Palworld sold 8 million copies so far. That's impressive. It's more than each individual Yo-Kai Watch game, however Yo-Kai Watch still sold better overall. Yo-Kai Watch 1 sold 2.9 million, Yo-Kai Watch 2 sold 7.3 million, Yo-Kai Watch 3 sold 2.2 million.
>palworld is on track to exceed legends
>the one game oft-cited as “but gamefreak tried this time!”
Can’t wait for the meltdown.
PLA sold 14.83 million copies. Also interesting that they both released in January, it might make the comparison a bit fairer.
I think he's comparing their first weeks
>Sonic Frontiers
>best selling 3d sonic game
>only 3.5m so far
how did a copycat shitpost outsell the massive cultural icon?
>best selling 3d sonic game
I don't think there was an actual source to this claim. It's possible, but journalists jumped to conclusions for headlines. SEGA doesn't always give out the full sales numbers.
>a copycat shitpost
Maybe those games deserve more credit than you give them.
>outsell
It kind of didn't, Frontiers isn't the game that made it a massive cultural icon, it's just yet another success in a series of success that consistently sells at least 2 million copies. It's unlikely Palworld would be able to sell that much with each consecutive release.
iirc, the best selling Sonic game after Sonic 1 was the first Olympics entry
GTAV alone has outsold the Sonic series
That’s it? That’s sad as frick. I only ever played one of them it had so much soul
>If Yokai Watch scared Gamefreak into course-correcting for gen 7
no it didnt shut up
yet palworld seems big enough where changes could be made for gen 10 assuming they dont get sued
explain rotom dex in any other way than mindlessly copying yokai watch
fair enough but that acting like thats a good thing since how liner gen 7 is (still the best gen for waifus and waifumon however, and not the worst gen overall)
Gen 7 was a good gen.
The hype killed it.
I would have pointed towards magical wrist pieces for three generations in a row
Didn't that start with XY though? It's one of those things that might be a coincidence at least.
Gen 7 had a considerably goofier tone to it than any previous generation and even included elements like the Rotom dex. It clearly had an influence on it.
Also Z moves being little dances probably came from the dance in the Yo-Kai Watch anime first ending, which was also a huge success in Japan.
Ohmori did that to offset how dark Alola and its plot got at points. Like really, who was expecting the Eevee trainer subplot.
>Eevee trainer subplot
One person died. So dark.
Sorry one person died. OF LE OLD AGE
Are you 5 or autistic anon?
You guys are only scratching the surface of how hard they ripped off Yokai lmao
Gen 7 defiitely riped off Yokai in some stuff, but YW1 released the same year as Gen 6 did, they had time to.
Palworld released in January 2024 and Gen 10 is probably releasing in late 2025, i don't think they'll have enough time, plus we don't know how much palworld will last either or what people like about it.
your first mistake was assuming pokehomosexualmanchildren are knowledgeable about anything but their pokeshitslop
The difference is that it's okay if GF does it
Funny how they're trying to scoop up potential infringement from palworld now
interesting, never played that garbage so i had no idea.
Indeed, I wouldn't recommend Sun and Moon, bad game.
I'm the only actual Yo-Kai Watch fan here apparently, because the only thing here that could even be argued to be "ripped off" is RotomDex (and largely only in the anime, in the games it and Whisper aren't anything close to alike).
Yo-Kai Watch didn't invent JRPG super moves, Boss Yo-Kai in Blasters aren't even the same fricking CONCEPT as Totems, Yo-Kai Watch isn't focused on dances and barely had any prevalent past the Gera Gera Po (outside of that Just Dance collab they made), Yo-Kai Watch didn't invent QR integration in 3DS games, Yo-Kai Watch didn't invent fricking MINIMAPS (The Yo-Kai Watch one isn't even on the Yo-Kai Pad like Pokemon's is on Rotom Dex), and SM's camera minigame acts nothing like Yo-Kai Watch's spotting just by sheer relevance to their greater games alone.
You people are so goddamn moronic. Leave this fricking series out of your petty shitflinging and go have a nice day while you're at it
I would have agreed with you years ago because these are all surface level similarities, but I think that's the point (nevermind that some of these are stretches, it still illustrates the point). It's not a 1:1 copy, but it's clear Game Freak took some hints and started doing things they weren't doing before. Surface level similarities as if to say "see, we've got that thing too!"
>barely had any prevalent past the Gera Gera Po
It's not central to the series, but there are several in the anime as openings and endings, and Gera Gera Po isn't even the popular one, Yo-Kai Exercise 1 is.
>all very common jrpg stuff
Correct. but the key point is that Gamefreak only started doing these things when another monster catching franchise that just came out did it, and became very popular. Keep in mind that except for mega evolutions, they've pretty much just made no significant gameplay or UI changes: no new concepts for bosses, UI, move types, player companions, nothing. Even camera minigames were exclusive to dream radar, which is a spinoff game. So why suddenly drop every single one of those changes "coincidentally" when another game that did got popular?
I'd argue the anime was another big one. Yokai Watch came out with a comedy-focused anime and blew the frick up. Then when Pokemon gets to Sun and Moon they also did a hard pivot into comedy and abandoned the unbelievably stale shonen formula they'd been working with for over a decade to massive amounts of praise.
>massive amounts of praise
Pokémon is popular.
It was only divisive to weirdos and purists who liked their 10 years of Team Rocket failing to catch that darn Pikachu while Meowth quips and the local Pokemon get involved in the mischief somehow. Sun and Moon were a huge deal to most people and was actually getting recommended by people who'd long since dropped off of the anime because it had been perpetually spinning its wheels.
>Sun and Moon were a huge deal to most people
Some of these were just logical steps to take(the minimap and the QR codes,) but you can bet your fricking ass that they didn't come up with those on their own despite how simple and easy the idea was.
>bottom screen being a map
anon thats been a thing since gen 4
The only map on the bottom screen in any of those games was the optional region map, in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum only, not a map of the area you're in.
pokegays absolutely btfo
fricking hate game freak
i dont see how literally any of these are infringing eachother
that's because they aren't infringing, that wasn't the point
>no it didnt
It did you fricking retrad
The fact they fricked off 2015 with zero mainline release and did that weird ass art style with the game & anime confirmed it
Gen 10 is probably already in development, it will probably release in Nov. 2025.
Yokai Watch released in 2013 in Japan, big diference here.
>3 year cycle meme
They can literally hold off for a year to coincide with the 30th anniversary
they can, but it seems unlikely
The 10th and 20th series anniversary saw a game launch alongside a year's worth of merch shilling.
EVERYONE involved knows how much an anniversary year brings and how much a launch year generates. Which means they're *not* releasing a new Gen game before 2026.
Never mind the fact they wait two years after a new console launch to launch a pokémon game these days:
>DS release 2004, DP release 2006
>3DS release 2011, XY release 2013
>Switch release 2017, SS release 2019
And there's a new system coming later this year, which means a two year wait for the kiddy remodel and Pokémon's Gen 10 launch 2016.
doesn't matter, an anniversary game could also be a remake or a legends style game and it would make as much sense
No it fricking wouldn't you simplistic c**t, never mind they established DLC is year two of the Generation since SS. DLC won't shill the 30th anniversary if they launch in '25, you moronic child. Stop trying to sound smart in front of adults.
they can do whatever they want whenever they want, and DLC isn't necessary, that's something you made up
Palworld isn’t in the same genre as Pokémon. It poses no threat to GameFreak, that’s why their reaction to Palworld has been rather small. It’s only Poketard shills freaking out.
It's a game about monster catching.
>BUT THE GAMEPLAY IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!
It doesn't matter, it has monster catching. Nobody cares about Pokemon's gameplay anyway, you just press A until you win.
Um yes it does because people are only playing Palworlds because it’s a open world survival game. If it was a JRPG, Palworlds would be irrelevant just like almost every other Pokémon clone that’s a JRPG.
I just got to the part of yakuza 8 where they reintroduce the sujimon and the sujidex. Which featured the sujimon professor telling us to "catch them all" and "to be the very best", and of course I should mention that when ichiban mentioned that he's going to hawaii the professor called it "the region touched by the sun and moon."
No one is going to care nor say "what will yakuza 8 teach gamefreak" despite the fact it's a turn based rpg.
>then you can bet Palworld will definitely greatly influence gen 10's developmen
implying that gen 10 isnt already almost in post development/bug fix phase
>game freak
>bug fix phase
lol
lmao, even
At least GF knows how to give us soulful glitches.
You look into those eyes and tell me there is a soul behind them
there are two years until gen 10 comes out. that's enough time for them to slap some shitty base building mechanics into the game.
The only reason its selling is because zoomies are completely mind kontrolled. It will fizzle out quickly, it has none of the lasting charm of the pokemon world
I was born in 1997 and i don't like palworld.
1997 barely counts as zoomed
core mainline zoomers were born between 2004 and 2009
This.
1997 is still millenials.
Unlike most other generation transitions, there's less of a fuzzy space between generations here, because the key feature of zoomers is being mindfricked by nonstop advertising, brainwashing, and media overload, which cropped up all of a sudden.
There is a fuzzy period, but this fuzzy period is defined mostly by access to this stuff, with more unincorporated rural areas getting this later.
But 1997 is still to early for even the earliest zoomers, the very earliest zoomers were born in 1999/2000, with it becoming all encompassing by 2004.
>course-correcting for gen 7
Gen 7 was conceptually made by the time XY released.
AND it was shit. Good riddance.
Imagine listening to moronic twitter posters
Yokai Watch will return, will become successful outside of Japan and will make Gamefreak fearful again.
>will become successful outside of Japan
Already is.
Are the suits in GF fricking moronic? How the frick did they ever think Yokai Watch was ever gonna top pokemon?
It did for a while in Japan.
Level 5 still needs to release Yo-Kai Watch 4 in Europe and North America.
They're going to add guns and Pokémon torture like with the Koroks
Gen 10 gimmick is catching humans
Finally, my team of e-girl girls and pokemon will become real! I wonder if Eevee girls will have kigurumis per each evo.
>kigurumis per each evo
cute!
That means the one wearing the Vaporeon one will be the most fertile.
What the frick will GF even take from Paalworld? Giving Pikachu a glock? Letting you capture trainers?
yeah, my thoughts exactly. people want gf to "learn" something from this, whatever that means
Probably the entirely wrong lessons, like survival mechanics bolted onto games that don't need them. More optimistically, maybe it'll light the fire under them regarding the next Legends game, because Game Freak seems like the kind of company to bin the entire concept as a one-game gimmick.
If anything, the most likely would be resource farming and base crafting. Only Gamefreak won't add a slider option to triple/quadruple the drop numbers for players who want to skip the gathering busywork and just build their base up
>Ideally
Gamefreak try much harder to have Pokemon organically interact with the world and each other, creating behavioral patterns for the player to observe and occasionally interfere with for their own gain
>What they'll actually learn
People like games with hunger meters where you chop down trees with a level one axe to build a wood shack. They'll just bolt survival/crafting mechanics onto the Scarlet/Violet franework and call it a day
This
Pokemon's problems run deeper than not knowing, they're tone deaf and reach bizarre conclusions. If they take anything from palworld at all, it will be a surreal missing of the point of what palworld is about, and what people like about it.
At BEST, pokemon doing jobs in the background of like, towns and shit will happen.
Much more likely, they will make a weird, dysfunctional upkeep system around your pokemon that gets scrapped anyways. Like, curry and sandwiches, but now your pokemon will get saf if you don't use the mechanic.
I just want a base where my pokemon have shit to do.
Like in pelagonislands. In sm but in overworld.
Let us build it how we want.
If you are a berry farmer let us have berry fields. If you are comp obsessed let us have sparing mats where we can leave our mons for traning.
Bro your base building? Your free riding?
You dumbasses need to understand that Yo-Kai Watch "scared" GF because it was on it's OWN home console, in the same genre (Monster-Catching JRPG), at the same exact price point, and it sold competitively with with a Pokemon game released in the SAME EXACT YEAR (in Japan).
Palworld is on entirely separate platforms at less than half the price and is an entirely different genre than every mainline game to date. It's hardly competing at all.
Also that it was a multimedia franchise with toys and anime and shit just like Pokemon. Palworld is just a video game, Pikachu plushies alone are probably outselling it. Yokai Watch scared them because it was competing against them in the same entire field.
They're not even on the same platform, never mind the fact they're not the same genre.
GameFreak isn't losing sleep over a game that hasn't even expanded into an anime, trading card game, plushies out the ass and the same likes as what Yo-Kai Watch did.
I just pirated these. How are they?
you mean ykw? it's fun and comfy. you can skip the first game and start with the second
Masuda deserves my hate, whether Palworld exists or not.
I do hope this shows em people won't take their shit any longer, but that's very unlikely, to be honest.
Because yokai watch was big in Japan, palworld still not is not that big in Japan like yw was,
This is actually true
Pokemon has no consideration for anything that happens outside of japan.
This isn't super uncommon for japanese series in general, but pokemon takes it to a weird extreme.
I can count the number of Japanese developers that give more than a passing shit to what the worldwide opinion of their stuff is on my hands, and among them Fromsoft is probably the only notable one.
Is that why they put Ed Sheeran in their latest game instead of a Japanese musician?
Nips love that type of music for some reason.
>Pokemon has no consideration for anything that happens outside of japan.
This stopped being true with XY and is the primary reason why XY and since have sucked ass
Pokemon panders heavily to America.
>Pokemon has no consideration for anything that happens outside of japan.
If only that was true
That TPCI. They are even more moronic
If Palworld does influence gen 10, then I can see it happening like this:
>Australia region (all but confirmed with hints)
>You build and maintain bases, camps, or settlements in the outback
>Story/gym progress is locked behind levelling them up, using Pokémon outside of your party to complete tasks
>This encourages catching a frickton of Pokémon of varying types, so it serves two functions
>Could have resource production, making your own pokeballs, medicine and farming berries
>Wild Pokémon could raid your base for berries, you would have to come fight them off
>Munchlax and Skwovet lines could be exclusive to this method
Idk, obviously any kind of survival element would be minimized because it's Pokémon, could be fun, though.
>could be fun
How do you trust GF to make it fun and not some tacked on stupid shit?
>then you can bet Palworld will definitely greatly influence gen 10's development
doubt it everyone will forget about palworld in a month kek, its just like battle bit
>then you can bet Palworld will definitely greatly influence gen 10's development.
Definitely.
I bet they already considered a crafting survival game after realizing Minecraft was what all kids wanted for so many years. Only last year Pokémon went open world and added some crafting elements. Now Palworld's success will just go full in that direction.
Yokai Watch proved to me that TPC are just trend followers.
If palworld was on Switch and rated 7's they might.
As it stands, it's not competing on their ecosystem nor is it targeting Game Freak's traditional market. All it's doing is taking away the turds who haven't grown out of their kiddy entitlement as they finally have a pokémon game that's for adults like them.
But isn't Pocketpair also a trend follower on that regard? Sure, taking bits and pieces of what other games work and fusing them together can make for an interesting end result, but in some of the interviews, he's pretty blunt about making things that appeal to a lot of people, originality be damned
Game Freak don't give a shit what studios making games for teenagers are doing shill. They target the kids that are going to grow into the teenagers that buy the edgy pokéclone dross you're shilling.
Palworld needs an anime though like Yo-Kai watch.
>Palworld will definitely greatly influence gen 10's development.
here's the difference for you braindead morons
yokai watch actually did it's own thing and made it's ripoff it's own
palworld is literal shovelware slop
Shovelware slop that is somehow more fun than any mainline pokemon game in the last decade. Cope.
If Palworld does light a fire under GF's ass to actually make a good game then I'd be happy but I doubt it because GF seems incapable of making a good game and are just coasting along through brand power alone.
And don't forget Game Freak is also currently developing a new non-Pokémon game
Why do they keep dividing their small team when they can't even finish their games?
Money I guess.
Why hire more people and pay them when you can have a skeleton crew work on it and pay the bare minimum?
Pokemon burnout doesn't just affect the fans, it affects the staff too. There's no contest that people in GF are pretty tired of working solely on Pokemon.
Any chance of Digimon copying Palworld?
The main difference is that yokai watch was eating into the market share for merch, which palworld hasn't done yet. If palworld can get multimedia or merch sales to take off, then gamefreak will course correct.