If you look at this thing and don't instantly and instinctively understand what "forced soul"/"artificial soul" means or why ...
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If you look at this thing and don't instantly and instinctively understand what "forced soul"/"artificial soul" means or why is it applicable to this garbage, YOU are the soulless one.
its kinda slopcore but also part ludokino, there's some fakesoul in there too though
Personally since the soul seems confined to the gameplay I would say it's more ludosoul than anything else.
I'll think about buying once we see a longer stretch of gameplay.
there's actually a theory around this phenomenon where its believed there is an as of yet unidentified pathogen that causes people to become gay pedophiles, and the pathogen spreads that way likely carried through semen or fecal matter which is why children that are victims of gay pedophiles often become gay pedophiles themselves
it alters their brain chemistry to give them a sexual attraction to same sex children
If you look at this thing and don't instantly and instinctively understand what "forced soul"/"artificial soul" means or why is it applicable to this garbage, YOU are the soulless one.
>rightfully seeing a politician as corny and pointless? >congrats, now think of this new game from a franchise that dominates its genre as the same kind of thing
you've made this harder to understand, not easier
this, cartoon characters being happy is so passé. they need to give yoshi cancer so mario can express all stages of grief as he has to put yosho down
shut the frick up
are you literally asking for sonic-tier 'serious' shit from bing bing yahoo right now?
he's a cartoon midget running through a fantasy land what the frick expressions do you want him to have other than joy? you want him to be gruff and angry and constantly quip at the player?
>level has a cappella bgm >brainlets think all a capella is the same as haphazardly thrown in BAHBAH >nintendo does more with their 2D Mario animation since the fricking DS >brainlets compare it to butchering a simple 4 frame animation on the NES
When did you realize Ganker has no idea what it's talking about and bandwagons against things without even realizing why they're shit?
its more like TF2 has done more to spread the popularity of lootboxes and MTX then any game ever, but because TF2 is one of Gankers most sacred cows this place will never be ready for that discussion.
Western troons are afraid of Nintendo scoring big again while their degenerate garbage games about trannie Black folk and mannish women fighting some fascist drumpf character aren't selling
>Since when is expressive and detailed animation considered not soulful?
Anon, do you rush out to buy something every time you see someone smiling in an ad? It's the same thing. The smile is not real. The intent is not there.
>Anon, do you rush out to buy something every time you see someone smiling in an ad? It's the same thing. The smile is not real. The intent is not there.
schizo moment?
Mariogays have gone full schizo with claiming Wonder is forced soul and claiming the mandate still exists when RPG brought back unique Toads and put Daisy in mainline game.
>copy decades-old artwork to pander to nostalgia in lieu of actually making some new cute/cool thing
Yet this is somehow supposed to be an argument AGAINST it being "forced soul"?
>>copy decades-old artwork to pander to nostalgia in lieu of actually making some new cute/cool thing
Yeah bro. We should just give up on 2D art altogether. I heard it's been done for millennia upon millennia already. Imagine being so unoriginal as to engage in 2D art.
Actually scratch that. Imagine doing art at all. Lmao.
At least Ganker's >forced animation
Kind of sort of made sense. This forced soul shit is just straight up moronic though. What is depicting isn't even forced. It's the same thing as before, only new. How does that make it forced? Should call it artificial or something if you think it lacks genuine soul.
you'd shit out some ignorant new nonsense to try and take the piss out of it or, and this is what is far more likely, just parrot what you see as the popular thing to do at the time in an attempt to feel relevant for ten seconds
>Artificial soul >It's just animations with a bit of personality and effort
Go back to Call of Duty or Fifa or whatever yearly slop it is you're most at home consuming, anon.
>HOW DARE THEY MAKE MARIO EXPRESSIVE AND GIVE HIM FUN ANIMATIONS INSTEAD OF THE SAME LOW-EFFORT 2-POINT CURVE MOCAP DOGSHIT FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME
I don't understand what the point of this meme is.
"Artificial soul" is just nostalgia pandering
It's a company trying to "return to their roots" because they can make more money that way over taking a risk and being creative
Remember when X was good? Okay I made it like that again now give me money
That's all this is and every big corporation is doing it
I'm surprised nobody is mentioning how Yoshi is looking more like his old self rather than being a gay frog. Hopefully they get rid of the moaning as well
do you play as Yoshi? Is he a powerup again? If you play as him, do you still get to eat shit and double jump? I'm so confused to how he works in this game.
Pretending to be moronic about "NoT UNdERStanDing the MeME" is just as fricking stupid as saying it's forced soul. But you're a dickriding homosexual if you keep ignoring the complains people have of the game.
I think this looks really good and anyone screaming about artificial soul this, fake soul that, doesn't actually know what looks good anymore because they have been SLOPPING down goyslop games for the last decade, literally cannot think critical in the slightest
Are we going to get to the point where the New Super Mario Bros series is now regarded as "soulful soullessness", "so-soulless-that-it-loops-back-around-to-soul", or some other term or phrase? Or hell, will it be regarded as more soulful than wonder for being "honest"?
>what the frick is calarts
It refers to a school of art in California, where a lot of modern western animators got their degrees. It's why so many modern cartoons all look absolute shit and virtually identical to each other (bean mouth, etc)
>why are the raiding discord troonys suddenly crying about it?
It's a Ganker thing, not a Discord thing. Trannies absolutely love this style.
>what does calarts have to do with nintendo?
Nothing.
It all looks great except the animation for him holding onto a rail and gliding. I feel like they really need to re-do that animation. Everything else looks great.
>”forced soul”/“artificial soul”
The fact that you quadrupole Black person discord trannies can’t even come up with a consistent term for your bait buzzword is the most insulting part of this shit tier raid.
>What should have been done to convince you that they cared?
Realistically nothing, because they don't and they won't
But not making another NSMB with a slightly different coat of paint might have helped
>spam threads with new forced meme words to get the AI bots to pick up on it and start making threads and posts with new words using them unironically >this is how the words based, kino, coomer, sovl, and goyslop were forced into acceptance and vocabulary permanence
based psyop anon
>spend childhood playing Mario games >always slightly bummed out that he's pixels and doesn't look like his cartoon form in the manual >graphics improve over 30 years >Mario can now look, move, and act like he did in the old manuals >this upsets people
Agreed. Even if Mario and the gang keep their current style, a majority of the backgrounds feel like they need simplifying. Something along the lines of what SMW offered with larger, but less detailed, designs. You want to feel like there's depth to the scene, but not necessarily that you should have the freedom to run back there when it's not meant to be a 3D space.
> a majority of the backgrounds feel like they need simplifying. Something along the lines of what SMW offered with larger, but less detailed, designs. You want to feel like there's depth to the scene, but not necessarily that you should have the freedom to run back there when it's not meant to be a 3D space.
You make some good points, and if nothing else they definitely need a lot more contrast so everything doesn't smear together so egregiously. I've noticed that Nintendo is a huge fan of super low contrast lately.
>You want to feel like there's depth to the scene, but not necessarily that you should have the freedom to run back there when it's not meant to be a 3D space.
This reminded me some sperg actually did that eith mario maker 2
nintendo has been soulless for about 20 years now. that's the best you should expect at this point. be glad it's not another "in model" generic mario game.
I hate this place sometimes
I hope when you die your """artificial soul""" goes into the """artificial eternal suffering hole"""" you fricking mongoloid
>Soul
Sonic Mania >Forced Soul
Sonic Superstars / NSMB Wonder ("Super Mario Bros Wonder") >Soulless, but nothing too offensive
regular NSMB >Soulless and bad
Sonic 4
You newhomosexuals just claim "souless" for every new thing so you can complai. Now that something has genuine undeniable soul you have to invent a new term just so you can cope, despite the fact we know everyone thinks this game looks sick.
Super Mario Bros changed my life. Not only do I have great memories of playing it, but it taught me how to overcome immense conflict in life. I was (and still am) very depressed, and getting out of bed in the morning was a struggle. I always described to my friends as feeling "small" before I even knew what Super Mario Bros was. You can imagine how much the game spoke to me when I first played it. Mario never gives up. He dies over and over and keep getting up again and again to run the same course, all to fulfill his purpose, to chase his dreams, to bring about justice. It's bright, and colorful most of the time, hiding the true nature of his cruel world, but when he reaches that flag, it makes you feel new again. When Mario arrives in a new world after countless tries, his purpose is restored and he starts to fit in the world around him. Much like real life, we struggle, and find new obstacles, we feel pathetic and dumb, but those small drops of joy and accomplishment that refill our strength keeps us going. That is what makes living worth it, through all the pain. Super Mario Bros is about life, and that struggle. It's about existence, and trying to find meaning in a vast universe, full of greater things than ourselves. It's about people, and their desire to be more than a bystander to a cycle of pain.
Soul was already a bullshit term invented by autists who lacked the faculties to properly communicate why they didn't like something, and this Forced Soul thing is just a double-decker shit sandwich of nonmeaning asininity
If you must ask yourself why stealth porn threads run so rampant, look to threads like this and realize that this godawful place is truly unfit for anything else
"Forced soul" is a thing now. Jesus christ what is wrong with you Black folk
>complain about games looking soulless constantly >companies now pander to nostalgiagays and give them careful, well thought out animations and unique art styles >lol youre forcing the soul stop trying so hard
Like what the frick does soul even mean anymore what exactly do you want
I don't think it's the same people, safe horny had a pretty concrete definition with what seemed to be discord posters running interference and muddying the waters to discredit the term. This almost seems like a bizarre psyop to discredit anything new people come up with in the future.
>I don't think it's the same people, safe horny had a pretty concrete definition
No the frick it didn't. It was literally one homosexual from twitter trying to decry any relatively popular character as "safe horny" because >SURELY ANY BOOBA THAT MANAGES TO GET BROADER ATTENTION MUST BE SAFE HORNY
The train of thought ended there. It was as contrarian as it gets, just like Forced Soul.
>safe horny had a pretty concrete definition
weeks later and nobody has come up with an actual definition besides calling characters that are popular "safe horny"
nobody knows, people just call recent popular characters safe horny just to be contrarian
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sexual character approved by THEM.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah it is obviously the same discord crying about safe horny pushing "artificial soul"
nobody knows, people just call recent popular characters safe horny just to be contrarian
Safe horny=western fanservice that remains firmly within the bounds of ESG regulation
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Safe horny=western fanservice that remains firmly within the bounds of ESG regulation
bullshit since it hardly applies to western fanservice, it's mostly been used for eastern fanservice
11 months ago
Anonymous
No it isn't have a nice day discordgay
11 months ago
Anonymous
it's quite literally been recently used on pura and she's designed for eastern sensibilities
11 months ago
Anonymous
Black person the guy who literally coined "Safe Horny" used it to describe a bunch of Japanese characters like the vampire chick from RE8
11 months ago
Anonymous
something you can ask for porn of without getting cancelled or banned off of the big websites
aka just "not e-girl or a fetish"
it's a word for troglodytes but i'm not going to pretend it's hard to understand
>safe horny had a pretty concrete definition
weeks later and nobody has come up with an actual definition besides calling characters that are popular "safe horny"
>Claymation is a specific technique used by a specific company
It's not at all you little Black person. Many companies used to use it, especially back in the 70s~80s. The exact difference between claymotion and stopmotion is that claymotion is specifically stopmotion using clay- which was incredibly common.
>Claymation is a specific technique used by a specific company
It's not at all you little Black person. Many companies used to use it, especially back in the 70s~80s. The exact difference between claymotion and stopmotion is that claymotion is specifically stopmotion using clay- which was incredibly common.
>Originally registered as a trademark by Will Vinton in 1978, then entered the English language as a genericized trademark
So it's just a phrase, no one made a specific technique or some shit
"Soul" means something that was made with genuine passion and creative drive.
"Soulless" means the opposite, something made for time and efficiency just to make money.
Little touches like Mario grabbing his hat when he enters the pipe are a classic feature of soulful games: It might be just a little thing some dev added in an afternoon because he thought it'd be a cute idea. No executive explicitly TOLD the artist to do that, it's something that happens out of genuine passion for the game.
But the fact the Mario Wonder thing consists of nothing BUT such "little touches" proves they're not actually the product of individual devs allowing their imagination and talent run wild. No, it's just a cynical attempt to capture the superficial features of what makes a game "soulful". It's part of a deliberate plan handed out by money-grubbing executive producers. The artist who made that animation was being COMPELLED to do it. Hence, "artificial"/"forced" soul.
You know, when you're assuming all this from a mere trailer, that's when I know you've grown a bit too cynical yourself, ironically enough. Like do you really see the new animations and is your first assumption that this is some executive-mandate to liven things up instead of the crew genuinely wishing to do so?
They could have shat out another NSMB and sold 15 mil without breaking a sweat. Wonder is the first time in ages where I feel the 2D Mario team is actually giving a frick outside of Maker.
>ike do you really see the new animations and is your first assumption that this is some executive-mandate to liven things up instead of the crew genuinely wishing to do so?
This is Nintendo we're talking about here, so yes.
I find it hard to believe anyone who'd worked on this game wasn't contemplating suicide every single day.
Well when you front-load everything bad you've learned about some entity you'll see everything they do as bad until proven otherwise, and be called moronic when you're wrong. It's a part of life I guess.
>But the fact the Mario Wonder thing consists of nothing BUT such "little touches" proves they're not actually the product of individual devs allowing their imagination and talent run wild. No, it's just a cynical attempt to capture the superficial features of what makes a game "soulful". It's part of a deliberate plan handed out by money-grubbing executive producers. The artist who made that animation was being COMPELLED to do it. Hence, "artificial"/"forced" soul.
Well said, but anyone who doesn't instinctively get it and needs to have this explained to them like this is either a willfully blind fanboy or a literal NPC. They're beyond saving.
>"Soul" means something that was made with genuine passion and creative drive.
i'd say that sounds concrete
i'd even go so far as to agree
but if your definition of a word you actually like and engage with is as limited as "dwarf fortress before toady started charging money," how are you anywhere near this thread
if you believed your words you would be under a waterfall thinking of who you should ask to join the next haven and hearth world with you
>jump
C >attack
A >jump attack
B >B and not A
FRICKING WHY
If this is a sega megadrove game disreard this comment, in that case control scheme makes sense at the time of release for comfort.
When I think of artificial soul I think shit like, say, the new Ducktales cartoon where most references where the most shallow shit possible and didn't demand more investment from the staff than googling the stuff and calling it a day.
This game by all accounts looks like the team in charge of sidescrolling Mario is finally getting to loosen up and have fun instead of putting yet another set of competent but unexciting levels through the NSMB factory
I'm so glad I'm nowhere near as jaded as I thought if you guys really can watch trailers like Wonder's and have your takeaway be "gee all that fun sure looks manufactured"
Not saying you gotta like it, shit on it all you want, but instantly jumping to the conclusion that those involved aren't having fun but just pretending to is such joyless, cynical self-sabotage for no gain
all the 2D nintendo platformers have had this awful sterilized glossy sheen appearance for its visual aesthetic and I cant fricking stand it. I'm so fricking sick of how it looks, its the globohomosexual art style of video games.
The idea of forced soul is redundant. A game either has soul or is soulless. There's no in between. This whole shit's moronic and every moron parroting this buzzword are homosexuals.
its fricking weird that mario and the other characters are facing like 45° between the camera viewing angle and the horizontal level.
Looks like he's constantly attempting to approach the foreground and yet just weirdly slides sideways instead.
At least with anime, I get forced animation sometimes like jittery loops, overly dramatic reactions like slow motion flailing to a normal slap, and noncomedic moon boobs.
But Mario literally has none of that, are you all sincerely moronic?
Artificial soul is better than no soul
ok bro, you're kinda running it into the ground at this point
is that the goal? are you butthurt about the term so you're trying to accelerate its demise?
'If I yell it at people enough times eventually it will be true!'
That's all slopcore, though?
its kinda slopcore but also part ludokino, there's some fakesoul in there too though
jesse what the frick are you talking about
Personally since the soul seems confined to the gameplay I would say it's more ludosoul than anything else.
I'll think about buying once we see a longer stretch of gameplay.
It’s like Sonic Mania in a way. It’s trying way too hard to be “le nostalgic”. Forced soul has been a thing for a while now and it’s irritating.
It's way worse than Sonic Mania ever was.
It's not trying to be nostalgic though. And if that's the case say it's pandering or something.
If it was trying to be nostalgic it would go with fricking sprites and make constant references to Mario 3 and World.
You know, like NSMB did.
The original NSMB is now older than SMB3 was when it came out.
Adding "le" to the beginning of a word doesn't make it bad
OP is a Forced homosexual/Artificial homosexual
Nah, pretty sure it comes naturally to him
Is that when a kid is diddled by a homosexual and then turns into a homosexual himself?
there's actually a theory around this phenomenon where its believed there is an as of yet unidentified pathogen that causes people to become gay pedophiles, and the pathogen spreads that way likely carried through semen or fecal matter which is why children that are victims of gay pedophiles often become gay pedophiles themselves
it alters their brain chemistry to give them a sexual attraction to same sex children
Forced meme
Are we really back on the "Artificial Fun" discourse? Jesus Christ next thing you know there will be Steamed Hams posting again.
Mario Wonder is literally artificial fun in the visual department
You literally have an artifical brain still in development.
Nah it looks like a fun 2d platformer. If you can't handle it because of a need to be contrarian that's your wiener to suck.
artificial fun is a real term though. there is definitely such a thing.
It's the most moronic thing Ganker has come up with in a long time, so of course (You) farmers are latching on to it.
I'm all for some steamed hams.
>next thing you know there will be Steamed Hams posting again.
I wouldn't mind that
>there is no such thing as forced soul
what is soul about that, you moronic Black person
congratulations.. now see op
>rightfully seeing a politician as corny and pointless?
>congrats, now think of this new game from a franchise that dominates its genre as the same kind of thing
you've made this harder to understand, not easier
Oh my god don’t remind me
>politician
>having any of that to force
Can't they have Mario express something other than autistic joy?
this, cartoon characters being happy is so passé. they need to give yoshi cancer so mario can express all stages of grief as he has to put yosho down
shut the frick up
Are you literally defending "BING BING YAHOO" right now?
U mad?
are you literally asking for sonic-tier 'serious' shit from bing bing yahoo right now?
he's a cartoon midget running through a fantasy land what the frick expressions do you want him to have other than joy? you want him to be gruff and angry and constantly quip at the player?
this but unironically
i at least hope he will express more emotions in the rpgs in the future
Playing as a souless mascot isn't fun.
IMAGINE THE DRAMA
The OP has mario feeling wonder, fear and anger.
If I was frolicking and some LSD kingdom, stomping on animals and eating weird steroid food you’d be I’d have a permanent look of joy on my face.
>if you don't instantly understand this fake term I just made up two days ago in my seething rage over mario wonder
Just frick off dude.
There's no such thing as a soul. It's just something they made up to scare kids like the bogeyman or Michael Jackson.
>source : my insecure homosexual ass
>joke goes over religtoids heads
Maybe you should focus on finding a brain before a soul.
Soulless
>simpslop enjoyer can't fathom soul
ya.. figures
yeah aristotle wrote that treatise to frighten kids, you fricking moron
I'm not seeing forced soul but I am seeing a forced meme
Pack it in would you
Looks like Soul is back on the menu
"soul" an artificial tribute to soul
Is it another forced thing like Safe Horny?
"Safe horny" was imported from Twitter. You can tell this "forced soul" shit is a homegrown cancer.
Yes
yeah
looks good, whoever drew/animated it did well, props to them.
SOUL
>level has a cappella bgm
>brainlets think all a capella is the same as haphazardly thrown in BAHBAH
>nintendo does more with their 2D Mario animation since the fricking DS
>brainlets compare it to butchering a simple 4 frame animation on the NES
When did you realize Ganker has no idea what it's talking about and bandwagons against things without even realizing why they're shit?
Lootbox "controversies". Funny how they finally came around when they couldn't get their favorite waifu skins in Overwatch anymore.
its more like TF2 has done more to spread the popularity of lootboxes and MTX then any game ever, but because TF2 is one of Gankers most sacred cows this place will never be ready for that discussion.
2d mario games finally take a different aesthetic direction
>FORCED SOUL FORCED SOUL FORCED SOUL
This is the last time I'm replying to one of these discord troony troll threads and the rest of you should stop as well
Honestly, it's been forced soul since the beginning.
>he has the 1 KB SMB PNG saved in his computer
Pretty SOULful tbh
They are trying to make mario look like hes not a product.
>soul
>soulless
>forced soul
>soulslop
>SOVL
/v/lore is autistic
Go back to your troony discord.
why is everyone ignoring that this is just a NMSB mod? where is 3d mario? this wonder game is soulslop by defitition
We're long overdue for a new 2D Mario.
on Switch 2, they're just as out of ideias for 3D Mario as they are for 2D Mario, what more can they do to reinvent SM64 gameplay now?
But I like NSMB mods
reminder: anyone thats forced soul posting likely doesn't know what gender they are
Western troons are afraid of Nintendo scoring big again while their degenerate garbage games about trannie Black folk and mannish women fighting some fascist drumpf character aren't selling
Take your meds
The only soul that's artificial here is (You)rs.
Why does Mario have zoomer hair?
Since when is expressive and detailed animation considered not soulful? How are you this fricking asshurt over a fricking Mario game?
They're going to be even more asshurt if it gets GOTY nominations.
you clearly have no idea what soul even is
no atheist can
>Since when is expressive and detailed animation considered not soulful?
Anon, do you rush out to buy something every time you see someone smiling in an ad? It's the same thing. The smile is not real. The intent is not there.
>The intent is not there.
How?
>Anon, do you rush out to buy something every time you see someone smiling in an ad? It's the same thing. The smile is not real. The intent is not there.
schizo moment?
>The smile is not real. The intent is not there.
jesus christ this board had a seriously strong bowl of moron flakes today
it's only forced soul when a company I don't like does it.
Mariogays have gone full schizo with claiming Wonder is forced soul and claiming the mandate still exists when RPG brought back unique Toads and put Daisy in mainline game.
k
>copy decades-old artwork to pander to nostalgia in lieu of actually making some new cute/cool thing
Yet this is somehow supposed to be an argument AGAINST it being "forced soul"?
>>copy decades-old artwork to pander to nostalgia in lieu of actually making some new cute/cool thing
Yeah bro. We should just give up on 2D art altogether. I heard it's been done for millennia upon millennia already. Imagine being so unoriginal as to engage in 2D art.
Actually scratch that. Imagine doing art at all. Lmao.
At least Ganker's
>forced animation
Kind of sort of made sense. This forced soul shit is just straight up moronic though. What is depicting isn't even forced. It's the same thing as before, only new. How does that make it forced? Should call it artificial or something if you think it lacks genuine soul.
>old good, new bad
what do you people want
you'd shit out some ignorant new nonsense to try and take the piss out of it or, and this is what is far more likely, just parrot what you see as the popular thing to do at the time in an attempt to feel relevant for ten seconds
this is a weirdly roundabout way of asking for new IPs, anon. shouldn't you just say that?
>Artificial soul
>It's just animations with a bit of personality and effort
Go back to Call of Duty or Fifa or whatever yearly slop it is you're most at home consuming, anon.
You tell him, sis! *Go back to his annual $60 Mario spinoff slops*
>HOW DARE THEY MAKE MARIO EXPRESSIVE AND GIVE HIM FUN ANIMATIONS INSTEAD OF THE SAME LOW-EFFORT 2-POINT CURVE MOCAP DOGSHIT FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME
I don't understand what the point of this meme is.
Mario is the most expressive he's been in 2D since Super Mario World, and his powerups aren't just random suits anymore.
captcha: MANKS
>HOW DARE THEY MAKE THE main character EXPRESSIVE
you don't know what is being discussed in this thread
kys
Feel free to explain it to me, homosexual. All I'm seeing in the OP post in whining about how they actually gave Mario decent animation for once.
That’s because this game was meant to be played by women and children, real women not the tendie troons on Ganker
"Artificial soul" is just nostalgia pandering
It's a company trying to "return to their roots" because they can make more money that way over taking a risk and being creative
Remember when X was good? Okay I made it like that again now give me money
That's all this is and every big corporation is doing it
Risks almost never pay off for franchises.
It just looks like this homosexuals disney movies they make now
>Onions still filtered
>Mods won't do anything about this moronic meme
So these threads are made by snoys, right?
fine
i'm soulless then
>Artificial soul
This will never catch on no matter how many times you spam threads about it after getting btfo, OP.
>forced soul
I will kill you with a rock shut the frick up
>proportions changed to match his boxart design
>he actually does the poses as well in his basic animations
No frick you, this is peak SOVL
You don't need to invent buzzwords to dislike something
This is an anonymous board. Your opinion is gonna disappear in a few minutes anyway
I'm surprised nobody is mentioning how Yoshi is looking more like his old self rather than being a gay frog. Hopefully they get rid of the moaning as well
do you play as Yoshi? Is he a powerup again? If you play as him, do you still get to eat shit and double jump? I'm so confused to how he works in this game.
looks like you play with him, given that he has a player icon and that one frame of multiple single yoshis
Pretending to be moronic about "NoT UNdERStanDing the MeME" is just as fricking stupid as saying it's forced soul. But you're a dickriding homosexual if you keep ignoring the complains people have of the game.
I think this looks really good and anyone screaming about artificial soul this, fake soul that, doesn't actually know what looks good anymore because they have been SLOPPING down goyslop games for the last decade, literally cannot think critical in the slightest
Everything after Yoshi's Island has been low effort slop.
Are we going to get to the point where the New Super Mario Bros series is now regarded as "soulful soullessness", "so-soulless-that-it-loops-back-around-to-soul", or some other term or phrase? Or hell, will it be regarded as more soulful than wonder for being "honest"?
Yoshi's Island is peak soulslop dumbass
Yoshi's Island is peak soul.
glad to be soulless. simple as. hate trannies too btw.
what the frick is calarts and why are the raiding discord troonys suddenly crying about it? what does calarts have to do with nintendo?
>what the frick is calarts
It refers to a school of art in California, where a lot of modern western animators got their degrees. It's why so many modern cartoons all look absolute shit and virtually identical to each other (bean mouth, etc)
>why are the raiding discord troonys suddenly crying about it?
It's a Ganker thing, not a Discord thing. Trannies absolutely love this style.
>what does calarts have to do with nintendo?
Nothing.
It all looks great except the animation for him holding onto a rail and gliding. I feel like they really need to re-do that animation. Everything else looks great.
I'm genuinely in complete disbelief at how much of a shithole this site has become.
>”forced soul”/“artificial soul”
The fact that you quadrupole Black person discord trannies can’t even come up with a consistent term for your bait buzzword is the most insulting part of this shit tier raid.
At least have some fricking consistency.
I want you to tell me right now what should have been done to make the soul natural and not forced
Be released during my childhood
>I want you to tell me right now what should have been done to make the soul natural and not forced
caring
Try using that thing between your ears
What should have been done to convince you that they cared?
>What should have been done to convince you that they cared?
Realistically nothing, because they don't and they won't
But not making another NSMB with a slightly different coat of paint might have helped
>spam threads with new forced meme words to get the AI bots to pick up on it and start making threads and posts with new words using them unironically
>this is how the words based, kino, coomer, sovl, and goyslop were forced into acceptance and vocabulary permanence
based psyop anon
>spend childhood playing Mario games
>always slightly bummed out that he's pixels and doesn't look like his cartoon form in the manual
>graphics improve over 30 years
>Mario can now look, move, and act like he did in the old manuals
>this upsets people
Okay anon, you've sold me on the appeal of the animations specifically. I still think the overall visual style is sorely lacking in passion.
Agreed. Even if Mario and the gang keep their current style, a majority of the backgrounds feel like they need simplifying. Something along the lines of what SMW offered with larger, but less detailed, designs. You want to feel like there's depth to the scene, but not necessarily that you should have the freedom to run back there when it's not meant to be a 3D space.
> a majority of the backgrounds feel like they need simplifying. Something along the lines of what SMW offered with larger, but less detailed, designs. You want to feel like there's depth to the scene, but not necessarily that you should have the freedom to run back there when it's not meant to be a 3D space.
You make some good points, and if nothing else they definitely need a lot more contrast so everything doesn't smear together so egregiously. I've noticed that Nintendo is a huge fan of super low contrast lately.
>You want to feel like there's depth to the scene, but not necessarily that you should have the freedom to run back there when it's not meant to be a 3D space.
This reminded me some sperg actually did that eith mario maker 2
When does this game release? How many more months of this daily "forced soul" nonsense?
I understand what force souls is.
A force meme. Grow the frick up manchild.
nintendo has been soulless for about 20 years now. that's the best you should expect at this point. be glad it's not another "in model" generic mario game.
I hate this place sometimes
I hope when you die your """artificial soul""" goes into the """artificial eternal suffering hole"""" you fricking mongoloid
Whats the problem. Just looks like 2d mario in 3d. Soul? Whatever, looks like Perfect mario in that jar at tendie headquarters.
don't care, already preordered
This game mindbroke Ganker into complete moronation.
But anon, that's every nintendo game! Wait, I don't even have to say nintendo!
Didn’t take much
>Soul
Sonic Mania
>Forced Soul
Sonic Superstars / NSMB Wonder ("Super Mario Bros Wonder")
>Soulless, but nothing too offensive
regular NSMB
>Soulless and bad
Sonic 4
You're welcome.
You newhomosexuals just claim "souless" for every new thing so you can complai. Now that something has genuine undeniable soul you have to invent a new term just so you can cope, despite the fact we know everyone thinks this game looks sick.
Forced denial
>Final FanTARDsyvjust launched.
>Snoys are more interested in b***hing about a Mario game that comes out in October
Telling.
get a grip
You gonna cry because I came up with the game and its blowjob flowers?
Pathetic.
>Soulless NPC repeats soulless reddit buzzwords while calling other people soulless
none of those words are in the talmud
Super Mario Bros changed my life. Not only do I have great memories of playing it, but it taught me how to overcome immense conflict in life. I was (and still am) very depressed, and getting out of bed in the morning was a struggle. I always described to my friends as feeling "small" before I even knew what Super Mario Bros was. You can imagine how much the game spoke to me when I first played it. Mario never gives up. He dies over and over and keep getting up again and again to run the same course, all to fulfill his purpose, to chase his dreams, to bring about justice. It's bright, and colorful most of the time, hiding the true nature of his cruel world, but when he reaches that flag, it makes you feel new again. When Mario arrives in a new world after countless tries, his purpose is restored and he starts to fit in the world around him. Much like real life, we struggle, and find new obstacles, we feel pathetic and dumb, but those small drops of joy and accomplishment that refill our strength keeps us going. That is what makes living worth it, through all the pain. Super Mario Bros is about life, and that struggle. It's about existence, and trying to find meaning in a vast universe, full of greater things than ourselves. It's about people, and their desire to be more than a bystander to a cycle of pain.
Fricking have a nice day
Ganker further cements itself as autistic
Elaborate?
Soul was already a bullshit term invented by autists who lacked the faculties to properly communicate why they didn't like something, and this Forced Soul thing is just a double-decker shit sandwich of nonmeaning asininity
If you must ask yourself why stealth porn threads run so rampant, look to threads like this and realize that this godawful place is truly unfit for anything else
what if i Forced my dick into your Ass
"Forced soul" is a thing now. Jesus christ what is wrong with you Black folk
>complain about games looking soulless constantly
>companies now pander to nostalgiagays and give them careful, well thought out animations and unique art styles
>lol youre forcing the soul stop trying so hard
Like what the frick does soul even mean anymore what exactly do you want
It's literally a discord raid, anon. Just ignore it.
they want games to be 20 years old at launch
i got you senpai. discord kiddies are watching cartoons and alt tabbing their new hot meme.
Hello welcome to nuGanker which is flooded by hypocritical contrarian posters.
if anyone does anything it's fake and gay.
discord xirs please go back to safe horny as the buzzword of the week. had some good faps then
I don't think it's the same people, safe horny had a pretty concrete definition with what seemed to be discord posters running interference and muddying the waters to discredit the term. This almost seems like a bizarre psyop to discredit anything new people come up with in the future.
>I don't think it's the same people, safe horny had a pretty concrete definition
No the frick it didn't. It was literally one homosexual from twitter trying to decry any relatively popular character as "safe horny" because
>SURELY ANY BOOBA THAT MANAGES TO GET BROADER ATTENTION MUST BE SAFE HORNY
The train of thought ended there. It was as contrarian as it gets, just like Forced Soul.
Hypothesis confirmed
>safe enough to get broad attention while being nsfw
that's pretty definitive anon, i dunno why this confused you
but that's not even how it's used
You mean an attractive character, you fricking moron? That's why the buzzword is moronic. By definition, Lara Croft is "Safe Horny". Frick you.
>Safe Horny
nta, what the hell is "safe horny"?
nobody knows, people just call recent popular characters safe horny just to be contrarian
Sexual character approved by THEM.
Yeah it is obviously the same discord crying about safe horny pushing "artificial soul"
Safe horny=western fanservice that remains firmly within the bounds of ESG regulation
>Safe horny=western fanservice that remains firmly within the bounds of ESG regulation
bullshit since it hardly applies to western fanservice, it's mostly been used for eastern fanservice
No it isn't have a nice day discordgay
it's quite literally been recently used on pura and she's designed for eastern sensibilities
Black person the guy who literally coined "Safe Horny" used it to describe a bunch of Japanese characters like the vampire chick from RE8
something you can ask for porn of without getting cancelled or banned off of the big websites
aka just "not e-girl or a fetish"
it's a word for troglodytes but i'm not going to pretend it's hard to understand
>safe horny had a pretty concrete definition
weeks later and nobody has come up with an actual definition besides calling characters that are popular "safe horny"
Forced soul is the gayest shit I've heard in my life
NSMB DS was pure soul and so is this. It's NSMB 2, Wii, and U that were soulless
>The NSMB with the Van Gogh level is souless
To the extent NSMB games have soul to begin with NSMBU definitely qualifies
>the game with this final boss theme is soulless
Wii is soul, U guy is wrong because Van Gogh level is stolen soul. This is organic soul. 2 however is soulless garbage.
Look like Claymation almost. I love it.
Claymation is a specific technique used by a specific company, use the term "stop-motion"
What? I'm talking about the esthetic of it looking like Claymotion. Claymotion is not a copyrighted term.
>Claymation is a specific technique used by a specific company
It's not at all you little Black person. Many companies used to use it, especially back in the 70s~80s. The exact difference between claymotion and stopmotion is that claymotion is specifically stopmotion using clay- which was incredibly common.
>Originally registered as a trademark by Will Vinton in 1978, then entered the English language as a genericized trademark
So it's just a phrase, no one made a specific technique or some shit
It is ludo narrative forced kino
"Soul" means something that was made with genuine passion and creative drive.
"Soulless" means the opposite, something made for time and efficiency just to make money.
Little touches like Mario grabbing his hat when he enters the pipe are a classic feature of soulful games: It might be just a little thing some dev added in an afternoon because he thought it'd be a cute idea. No executive explicitly TOLD the artist to do that, it's something that happens out of genuine passion for the game.
But the fact the Mario Wonder thing consists of nothing BUT such "little touches" proves they're not actually the product of individual devs allowing their imagination and talent run wild. No, it's just a cynical attempt to capture the superficial features of what makes a game "soulful". It's part of a deliberate plan handed out by money-grubbing executive producers. The artist who made that animation was being COMPELLED to do it. Hence, "artificial"/"forced" soul.
name one other Little Touch in the game
Everything in the OP's screenshot, basically.
You know, when you're assuming all this from a mere trailer, that's when I know you've grown a bit too cynical yourself, ironically enough. Like do you really see the new animations and is your first assumption that this is some executive-mandate to liven things up instead of the crew genuinely wishing to do so?
They could have shat out another NSMB and sold 15 mil without breaking a sweat. Wonder is the first time in ages where I feel the 2D Mario team is actually giving a frick outside of Maker.
>ike do you really see the new animations and is your first assumption that this is some executive-mandate to liven things up instead of the crew genuinely wishing to do so?
This is Nintendo we're talking about here, so yes.
I find it hard to believe anyone who'd worked on this game wasn't contemplating suicide every single day.
Don't cut yourself with that edge, kiddo
Well when you front-load everything bad you've learned about some entity you'll see everything they do as bad until proven otherwise, and be called moronic when you're wrong. It's a part of life I guess.
>But the fact the Mario Wonder thing consists of nothing BUT such "little touches"
Name a single one other than the hat thing
biggest dumbass
>But the fact the Mario Wonder thing consists of nothing BUT such "little touches" proves they're not actually the product of individual devs allowing their imagination and talent run wild. No, it's just a cynical attempt to capture the superficial features of what makes a game "soulful". It's part of a deliberate plan handed out by money-grubbing executive producers. The artist who made that animation was being COMPELLED to do it. Hence, "artificial"/"forced" soul.
Well said, but anyone who doesn't instinctively get it and needs to have this explained to them like this is either a willfully blind fanboy or a literal NPC. They're beyond saving.
We get it, you hate it because it's popular
>The little touches are completely artificial because I said so
Yeah just like it being based on the OVA is something nintendo devs forced.
>"Soul" means something that was made with genuine passion and creative drive.
i'd say that sounds concrete
i'd even go so far as to agree
but if your definition of a word you actually like and engage with is as limited as "dwarf fortress before toady started charging money," how are you anywhere near this thread
if you believed your words you would be under a waterfall thinking of who you should ask to join the next haven and hearth world with you
Kinoic slop.
For actual forced soul see sonic mania which spams references and has a needlessly over animated title screen
>forced soul
I've never wanted a buzzword to be wordfiltered as much as I do now for this one.
>tendie can't face reality
A tale as old as time.
I do think getting inspiration from those old manuals are a cool idea.
Imagine a board where all buzzwords are automatically swapped with another random buzzword.
>jump
C
>attack
A
>jump attack
B
>B and not A
FRICKING WHY
If this is a sega megadrove game disreard this comment, in that case control scheme makes sense at the time of release for comfort.
What a moronic fricking thread
Check out this picture of my rat
kyuuto ratto
How would Mario look if it wasn't "forced soul"?
Forced sex
ruh roh
this game, arcane, puss in boots movie and spiderverse are artificial soul
best looking 2d mario platform in years since the 3d world shit ruined mario maker
When I think of artificial soul I think shit like, say, the new Ducktales cartoon where most references where the most shallow shit possible and didn't demand more investment from the staff than googling the stuff and calling it a day.
This game by all accounts looks like the team in charge of sidescrolling Mario is finally getting to loosen up and have fun instead of putting yet another set of competent but unexciting levels through the NSMB factory
>another forced meme
more like forced meme, have a nice day discord homosexuals
It looks great. You're a peon
I'm so glad I'm nowhere near as jaded as I thought if you guys really can watch trailers like Wonder's and have your takeaway be "gee all that fun sure looks manufactured"
Not saying you gotta like it, shit on it all you want, but instantly jumping to the conclusion that those involved aren't having fun but just pretending to is such joyless, cynical self-sabotage for no gain
Nintendo hired that man
You all need to cool it with the new buzzwords and just use normal words.
all the 2D nintendo platformers have had this awful sterilized glossy sheen appearance for its visual aesthetic and I cant fricking stand it. I'm so fricking sick of how it looks, its the globohomosexual art style of video games.
The idea of forced soul is redundant. A game either has soul or is soulless. There's no in between. This whole shit's moronic and every moron parroting this buzzword are homosexuals.
The whole idea of being mad over "forced soul" is so stupid too.
Agreed. The only thing that's forced is this entire meme. It'll die by the end of the month.
So because the developers put actual effort into the animations to convey personality and emotion its forced soul? Good god get a job or hobby.
Just say it looks subjectively bad instead of coming up with dull buzzwords to try and sound intelligent.
its fricking weird that mario and the other characters are facing like 45° between the camera viewing angle and the horizontal level.
Looks like he's constantly attempting to approach the foreground and yet just weirdly slides sideways instead.
nintendo pls stop
you're drunk nintendo
go home
even smash bros does what this game is doing, it's nothing new
no
are your eyes broken?
characters in smash bros clearly run in a straight line along the horizontal axis.
your eyes are broken.
fix your eyes.
I'm buying it just to spite you
At least with anime, I get forced animation sometimes like jittery loops, overly dramatic reactions like slow motion flailing to a normal slap, and noncomedic moon boobs.
But Mario literally has none of that, are you all sincerely moronic?