If you used spirit ashes and/or summons you didn't beat Elden Ring.
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yes i did
I did. I also invested all my XP on vitality, strength and faith. Game was easy as frick.
Can't wait for the dlc to drop and beat it in 2 days tops.
What you gonna do about that lil homie?
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>faith.
What the frick happened to faith that is causing all these zoomers to think it's the strongest??
When I played faith had the lowest bullshit buffs
gee i dunno maybe because incants and faith weapons like blasphemous blade or long doot are one of the best damage sources in the game
wrong, also ill do it again
Can you use Ashes and that Skeleton spell in the D part?
>Terra Magica
>C
It's extremely situational. There's not a whole lot of scenarios where you can play around such a small area. That said this chart also has comet azur as top tier and that's not correct either
>Carian Slicer
>Better than 99% of the melee weapons 🙂
Huh?
fast
good damage per mp
little mp cost
instant recovery
They could at very least increase the recovery time
>they should make the game less fun
>Night Stacy's Mist
>D
>Meteorite of Miss
>S
L M A OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>missing his meteorites
You we're using it wrong.
Get up close to a boss or right under them if possible like a dragon, then when you channel the spell the meteorites will spawn right on top of them and it'll all hit.
good lord, magic is so fricking boring
it fits with the copypasted boring dragons
>Carian Slicer
>Ancient Death Rancor in S
>Tibia's Summons in D
Confirmed casual who doesn't know synergy. You're supposed to use the bone boys after the rancor call cause the enemies will be too stunned to move away from the skellies.
Where's the based rocks? Literally beat the entire game with those
Rock sling was listed in S.
It's underrated because casuals ignore it because of the lame name.
>rock sling
Come on.
I used the shit out of rock sling.
your own fault for being moronic and not checking the area with the best early game staff more thoroughly
Purple = Win
These games just aren't that hard and you nerds need to stop coming up with arbitrary metrics. You need to accept the only reason anyone ever thought DeS and DS1 were hard was because they explain themselves like shit. The combat is among the slowest in the entire third person genre and anyone that's got some experience with actual combat systems that go beyond rolling and R1 can get through these with no issue.
If you thought Elden Ring was easy, then you played on easy mode. If you thought Elden Ring was hard, then you played on hard mode. It's the simplest truth and follows basic logic.
Not only that, I used a mod that passively regenerates 15 hp and 5 fp per second
Who cares if a game is "hard"? Virgins, that's who
the entire selling point of fromsoft games is that they're "hard but fair", but in reality they're just nipwank
Only homosexual journalists and redditors spout on about how "hard" they are. I'm a slow ass old frick and I can beat them just fine
Well at your age your brain has degraded and rotted away somewhat so most of your motor function is controlled by unconscious impulses with no actual input of your own. So unironically old people like you have an easier time playing video games than a young man like me since we use our young brains more.
>admits to being underage
>talks absolute bullshit
yep typical Ganker
>Only homosexual journalists and redditors
so the people that buy and shill fromsoft games
No, more like the people who whined and b***hed that Fromsoft add difficulty options
um actually my trophy collection says I did so there
I still await the day we have a true gamer complete the realest challenge; eating 6 Fiber One Chewy Bars (Flavour Oats and Chocolate) and attempting to 100% Elden Ring before a catastrophic movement takes out their entire colon wall in one, miscalculated push.
Do you think you can really do it? Prove it.
These don't do anything for me even after vacuuming a 6-pack.
>"X FELLED" pops up on screen
>able to progress beyond boss arena, or obtain progress item
It would seem the game would disagree with you
I used spirit summons and my cheevos say i got 100% of the game. Now I’m going to do it again, with a magic build, and help my 67 year old dad get 100% too. Stay mad
Wholesome
incorrect
I got the ending cutscene and everything while using them.
I used summon ashes and co-op. whenever we get invaders we all spam overpowered weapon arts on them before they can move and then teabag them after they die.
This is actually true. Use whatever weapons or spells you want, who gives a frick, but SUMMONING? Absolute gigahomosexual.
>if you used the things built into the game by the game's developers for the players to use, you didn't beat the game
Explain this. It isn't even gatekeeping. This is too dumb to be gatekeeping. This is trolling, right?
it's gaslighting, in order to troll.
Summoning is not using something to beat the game. It's having the game beat itself because you can't be fricked to do it.
>some lil b***h who I used to grab the hands of and make him punch himself in the face is still traumatized by it to this day
Stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself.
>t. Anon who didn’t beat the game
Beating the game the "right way" is their only achievement in life. That's the peak of their time in their world. They have nothing else in their sad, miserable daily life. So they cling to that and they won't let go.
>t. Salty Anon who didn’t beat the game
Cheesing a souls game unironically breaks the decade old gitgud narrative which is pretty silly considering I could consider your dumb Berserk larp build as "not beating the game" because you didn't do it naked at SL1.
You aren't smart enough
nah that's you
Why rob yourself of the experience? Refining your build and beating a boss is more fun
>beating the game my way is more fun!
ummmm nyo
The way the game is meant to be played.
>elden sneed is praised for its varied build options
>n-noooo you can only play it the way I like because.... JUST BECAUSE OK!
>elden sneed is praised for its varied build options
Using spirit summons isn’t a build moron.
It's an rpg morons, you are supposed to use all the items they give you and level up
>It's an rpg
>rpg with no quests
>no story
>no companions
>no real stats
>the only think that matters is your sword level
it's a really really bad adventure game
Monster Hunter does the same and it's called an action rpg.
and it isn't either, the japanese have never known what RPG means. They legitimately think it means something like online multiplayer
It is an rpg, your arbitrary conditions are meaningless
Some of the call of duty campaigns feel more like an RPG than Souls games, he is 100% right sorry fromtroony
>no quests
but you have to interact with npcs to get those
>no story
maybe not main but there is a sequence of events happening
>no companions
summons both npc (Solaire) and other players
>no real stats
lol
>the only thing that matters is sword level
yet int destroys strgays
>If you used spirit ashes and/or summons you didn't beat Elden Ring.
Then how come I saw the credits?
Cause someone else beat it for you. Did you think it was YOUR ass in the throne? It was your mimic tear.
Oh, you mean the mimic tear that copied me?
Seems like the mimic tear wouldn't have been able to do shit without me leading the way.
So not only did I beat the game, I helped my mimic tear beat the game too.
>Seems like the mimic tear wouldn't have been able to do shit without me leading the way.
It led the way, you sat on your ass and let it do all the work
Excuse me? It didn't summon itself.
>used a controller
>heh, you did NOT beat the game
So what, gonna use pals when a mod gets created lol.
I have all the same achievements you do
Their next game should have constant companion like Code Vein
>is better than Malenia in every way
how does she do it?
She likes you and is oddly optimistic for a Fromsoft game NPC
She reminds me of Laurentius from DS1
>Soon, I won't be more than a mound of flesh. Curse-laden, untouchable. I wouldn't want such a thing to bring you harm.
>last words are concern for you rather than fear of her own death
best girl
She really is great
You should be able to tune its AI and equipment. Maybe something like the ff12 ai rules system.
It can follow the Ashes now. Different Ashes have different AI
You know, it's annoying that so many years have passed and From still struggles with improving issues they had since the beginning, things like Whips and Crossbows being generally underwhelming to the average player or infusing/buffing being locked out of certain weapons that are not powerful enough to deserve such downside, and with each release they don't really do much to actually improve upon it.
the joke is they've always been this way, they haven't been able to improve on an idea since their inception. I didn't look at anything with AC6 but I wonder just how many assets in that game are from AC5. They could get away with it before because they were nobodies that made launch titles for the chinkstation, but when they became bigshots in the west everybody noticed something was off by DS1 (half the game not being finished) and DS2 made most people jump ship. DS3 was literally fromsoft going "oh frick lets just ship DS1 again and see if it works"
Literally describing how it should be. I want quickly produced evolving clones, not 6 year new IPS that end up being shit games anyways.
I should be playing Witcher 5 and Elder Scrolls 8 right now. Both myself and the companies would be happier.
AC6 has lots of new models and animations, it's the best thing about the game IMO. AC5 is too old and doesn't fit the new game. There's some models in the files that were likely for testing purposes but the game has so few parts (some of which are re-colours with the same model) because they wasted so much time on making new models and animations.
The game is the best balanced of any of the souls games
Also expecting whips and crossbows to be anything other than meme weapons is moronic, and they're not even completely useless, just bad for PVP
I got several cheevos that say otherwise. I also have all endings from Sekiro.
By your logic you didn't beat Pokemon Yellow unless you handicapped by only using Pikachu.
Fromtrannies be like
>if you used ANY gameplay mechanics that aren't rolling, you didn't LE BEAT THE HECKIN' GAME!
But then when they play another series they have no qualms using and and all easy mode items or abilities. Why are they like this?
Summoning isn't using game mechanics, it's having the game play itself
It's still a game mechanic. Self-driving capabilities in a vehicle is still a mechanic of the vehicle.
Maybe you should let your posts write themselves because you're fricking shit at this mate.
>Summoning isn't using game mechanics!
you are moronic, the devs put it in for a reason
for me it turned out to be more fun learning each boss mechanics and beating them after a few tries instead of watching my summon fight them while I spam unpunished attacks against them but I wont judge.
>learning each boss mechanics
you mean smashing them in the face with a greatsword?
I guess you wouldnt know, given that you didnt fight a single boss
so yes "smashing them in the face with a greatsword"
But I did, I got the
>you defeated
screen
you can defeat something without fighting it, evidently
Lies. I wasn’t able to summon for Soldier of Godrick. I beat it my 5th try.
What are you gonna do about it?
>Didn't use spirit asses
Congratulations OP you played yourself. While everyone else was having fun dicking around and finding cool shit your elitism robbed yourself of the game. It would be like never using arm tools in sekiro. Or any of the temp buff items in ds 2 or 3.
cute picture
There's nothing he can do ahaha
>morons who never played the game still parroting launch memes like "le mimic beats the boss by itself" and posting moronic charts with half the spells in wrong tiers
yep it's Ganker
Why not just do a rune level 1 play through or a no hit run on twitch if you want other people to verbally suck you off so bad OP. Because no one is impressed you played the game like a jackass
It's the only way the keep their dignity. Their being. Their self-worth is tied to the status of "I beat the game the right way". Take it from them and what remains? Nothing. They vanish. They die.
So they project their own way of playing the game(as gimped and stupid as the way is) on others so they don't kill themselves?
Man that's a real frickin depressing way to live
I'll be honest malenia is the only thing that feels as well designed as the bed of chaos, the rest of the game is fine, if too big to my taste (I modded torrent to run at 2 times the speed because the world is just frickn empty and anyone who says otherwise is trans)
Malenia is fine.
The game is balanced around magic and spirits and it's enough to beat her to submission
>b-but the 1 shot attack
gitgud
there's nothing balanced about a move that tracks you across the entire room
>gitgud
nice meme, did you find it on reddit
*throws frost pot and stops Waterfowl Dance entirely*
Well that was easy. Next?
nice trick anakin, now throw a pot during phase 2 ;^)
It's funny how you think this bug somehow saves her fight
The game works as intended. You can become as OP as her. If you want a """fair""" boss play something else
>The game works as intended.
No it doesn't malenia's fight has been bugged since launch with frost and bleed interaction, fromsoft left it in to save face
That's classic fromsoft jank, nothing new.
Still an alright fight
nothing in the game is an "alright fight" they're some of the worst bosses they've ever made. nothing about them is fun, it's pure tedium stat checking (or flask checking)
What if I used them for repeated bosses?
If fromsoft put in a gankfight and was so fricking lazy they didn't change the ai at all then I shamelessly summon. They didn't do the work to design the gankfight in a thoughtful way like demon princes so I'm not going to tolerate their laziness. I'll never summon a 1 v 1.
I’m approximately halfway through Elden Ring, by my estimation, and I still don’t even know what Spirit Ashes are or how they work.
based blind player
I’ve been able to gather that they’re sort of like special moves you infused into your weapon in exchange for AP but I seriously can’t be fricked to read anymore than I’ve already come across in the game. If I get to a point where I’m stuck I suppose I’ll do more research.
Truthfully I never beat it in any capacity. I played it for two weeks, got sick of it, and traded it in for Hitman 3
Who cares play Palworld with 3 millions players, out now!
Get the frick out of this thread and into one of the 50 other plaslop threads being spammed Black person
if you leveled up you didn't beat Elden Ring
you can't be serious
ywnbaw
Getting to the haligtree with +0 weapons at lvl 40 was more challenging
at the point it's just a battle of patience and time
Yeah getting the bosses down to the last 20% hp was always tense
Beating malenia fist only at lvl 1 was more challenging
I'm about to try an RL1 run. I assume it basically becomes a no-hit run by Leyndell
you can usually survive most hits if you've got decent enough armor
>level 1 run
>you can survive most hits
yes, most enemies would need to take at least two or three hits to kill me and i assure you i'm not good enough for a no hit run
>yes
oh, you're just baiting
>oh
>oh
Oh yeeeeeaaah
>oh
what is this, your pornographic fanfic?
hoar frost stomp
Trying out the Garden of Eyes mod. Don't like the new hub, but the weapons are pretty neat.
>Oh, you didn't restrict yourself from using 90% of the mechanics and equipment in the game? Then you didn't beat the game.
How come you never hear anything like this about other action games?
They're not action games
>dodge roll
>dodge roll
>dodge roll
>swing
>block
>dodge roll
gee what an innovative "game"
I don't think anyone has ever called Elden Ring innovative
>Frog poster
>moronic
like clock work
nobody has ever called it innovative, and if they have they were liars
I don't think anyone has ever called Elden Ring a game
I summoned skeletons to roleplay as a necromancer.
next game should add two constant companions and more bosses like the fire giant
just play dragons dogma 2
>ouh
>oh
>uoh
it’s kinda like using a pal in palworld if you think about it
Now isn’t that something!
Palworld won
This is the last time I will laugh at this.
From now on I will frown.
Tbh I get shitting on multiplayer, but how can you hate on the ash summons? They're all over the place, there's almost as many as weapons and you upgrade them like weapons. They're clearly intended to be used, they're a huge part of the game
they're boring, I don't enjoy watching an npc fight for me
You don't have to use them, I'm just saying it's wild how people think they're a handicap when they're obviously supposed to be a big part of the gameplay. They have their own upgrade material ffs. Plus, you don't have to use the strongest ones anyway, a lot of them are just like little helpers basically and don't do much, not that different from a spell
Never figured out how to use them, not gonna start now
How are you that moronic?
Don't like menu surfing, must be buried under some contrived mechanic, and never needed them either so why bother~
*bows politely*
*heals you dutifully*
*throws pots savagely*
Best summon right here
>tfw maidenless
I tried to find a cool sword inside stormveil but there were none better than the starting sword, so I went to the starting area to go somewhere else and ended up inside a cave with silly reindeer men, it's kinda the same gameplay everywhere, except you kill "different" enemies, but seeing those places makes it worth it.
if you didn't beat the game before radahn's first nerf then you didn't actually beat it.
Was he ever un-nerfed?
>Patches when you summon him for the Radahn fight
His HP was unnerfed but his hitbox and arrow tracking nerf remained, the first one has a major impact on how long summons last against him and the second changed the dynamic of the first phase, originally you had to get off your horse and dodge the charged snipe or he would have hit you no matter what you did and this killed countless morons that never adapted over and over.
Wait what!? You can dodge his charged snipe on your horse now? I've been doing it the same way since release. God I'm such a chad.
>Haven't played the game in a year
>Get to level 50 or so on a new character
>Decide I'll help some people in co-op
>Endless Radahn fights where the host keeps running in and dying
Frick you Bob, you suck at this game.
if you didn't start as Wretch you didn't beat the game
I used summons
I used spirit ashes
I used mimic tear +10
I overleveled by farming runes and endlessly dueling NPCs like the lone lightning knight in Liurnia
I dumped all of my levels into strength + vigor. But with just enough faith to unlock dragon breaths
I used a jump-halberd attack and scarlet rot procs
I annihilated every boss I came across
I killed most bosses on my first try
I killed Malenia in under a hundred tries
I beat Elden Ring.
Then I used dual katanas with bloodhound step and beat it again.
Then I used sorcery and beat it again from a distance.
It's a fun game
>I watched porn.
>I had sex.
See the problem here?
lorechads answer this?
its probably an easter egg of Gendry from game of thrones
I'm determined to play an arcane build this time but I can't find an interesting weapon. Suggestion?
I’m doing an arcane playthrough rn using regalia of eochiad with some dragon and crucible knight incantations.
Kino. Pairing this with Winged Sword Talisman, Thorny Cracked Tear, and the Godfrey Icon makes its Special move pretty strong
I you breathed, you didn't beat the game.
It says I beat the game though? I even have the achievements.
Dragon Greatclaw, yay or nay?
Big time yay. Just sucks there aren't many enemies weak to lightning, and fire is still the universally strongest affinity to use.
I was torn between that and the Watchdog Staff. Figure as long as they aren't resistant to lightning it was an upgrade.
elden ring had some really good bosses
the exploration was good shit
the quests are gay as frick without a journal
poise system is alright, but the armor selection is bullshit and defeats the purpose
some of the bosses are garbage spam fests, even some enemies. feels like they cranked the bullshit meter up in some cases without really thinking about the consequences. they definitely could've turned the combos down in some places
overall good game. got all the way to farum azula without using summons/mimic tear, and then only on a few bosses
i used cheats on malenia to undo the frenzy also the last boss ;p
I've been working on a save for the DLC.
I was at the Ruin-Strewn Precipice doing Patches Volcano Manor quest earlier and it kinda hit me how crazy it's that the "complete" game is gonna be even bigger than base ER already is.
Even crazier to think of the new players that get to experience ER + DLC completely blind.
Solo'd the whole game still didn't like it tbh. fromslopware makes slop for slop eaters :3
Trying an RL1 run now. I genuinely don't think I'll be able to do it without Spirits though, especially by Leyndell where every attack will one-shot me
Just use the blade of death and swap between bleed, frost and poison procs for Morgott.
Get to haligtree before the DLC drops.
Get some scarlet rot weapons.
I like Bloodborne's aggressive combat system more than Elden Ring's slower one. The bosses simply more too fast, the player's movement should also be sped up
feels great to just play the game and not give a shit about what some moron is thinking
Idk how you're supposed to survive without summons in the consecrated snowfield
you're supposed to run through it and ignore it
I used both of these things and I still never beat it. It was too long and I burned out at the Fire Giant.
What's making you so insecure about it?
The devs : I want to make the perfect souls games so fans can have a an okay time or extreme hard mode if they limit options
The fans :
>trivially easy if you use ashes and the good spells/ ashes
>obnoxious and irritating if you play "fair", having to dodge through 3 different roll catch combos that may or may not chain into another to have a window to attack once for 3% if the boss HP
this is why ER sucks
greatshield + guard counters removes the need for rolling almost entirely
i beat the game at launch when hoarfrost stomp and sword of night and flame were broken. good times
the only things that are broken to the point where ashes even the fight are malenia and radagon/elden beast anyways. maybe malekith too, but if you use the item, and bait him with the pillars its easy
ashes are near worthless in maliketh because they immediately get dabbed on by death fire dot
mimic for free shield perfume is the only thing of value there
yeah malikeths debuffs are almost as bad as malenias buffs. tiche holds her own but unless you keep up the aggro shes done. honestly i like the haligtree more than farum azula as a whole area, they should have swapped positions in game imo
half the haligtree is butt ugly and azula should have really been a mid game location and not endgame one
lmao who cares what Gankerirgins think
>if you used restoration in skyrim you didnt beat the game
In my first run I wanted to play a battle mage kinda character, I was hoping there was a weapon like the immolation tinder with which I could cast spells and hit with at the same time which there wasn't, but sorceries definitely feel my useful than ashes, so many enemies will go into a tirade of attacks against you, you can dodge it all but if you go back into to attack they will hit you but you can literally spam magic at them instead and they do frick all. Game feels like it wants you to use a ranged option to punish as much as using melee. Pure melee must be hell.
if you didn't play on kaytboard and mice you didn't beat the game simple as that
didnt beat it anyway.
died to pate lol
beat maggot or whatever first try
died to murder birds a few times
beat grafted wank hand first time
notice the bosses are all anime spiny shitters
looked into the next area, meh. turned off.
DS1 > ER.
Not sure if bait or cope. Either way have a pity (you) for your formulaic nu-Ganker dog shit thread.
Thoughts on the Convergence mod?
It's a cool mod with a lot of neat ideas.
I like that overhaul boss mod that makes batshit crazy versions of Maliketh, Radahn, and Malenia.
If you think that's bad, do a moonveil playthrough. You get bleed, plus a magic projectile you can spam, does shit tons of poise damage, and crazy damage output.
>magic projectile you can spam, does shit tons of poise damage, and crazy damage output
no it doesn't anymore, troonveil is not worth investing so much fricking stats for unless you're a pvp gay
Why does intelligence get all the good stuff? I'm doing an arcane build now, because I thought it would be interesting to go for an unusual stat. But there's barely anything that takes advantage of arcane. I just found a halberd with B arcane scaling, but it requires more strength to wield than I currently have.
I swear at least 1/4th of my inventory is dedicated to int shit.
>caring about scaling in ER
>Not wanting to specialize for fun.
>caring about a reddit letter that means frick all is "specialising"
Yes, if I dump a ton of points into a single stat, then there should be a weapon that suits my high point count. Typical video game thing, right? You put a bunch of points into STR, and you find a 50 STR weapon with A scaling in STR and it's awesome. You put a bunch of points into FTH, and you find a 50 FTH spell with a seal with A FTH scaling and it's awesome. Etc, etc.
But with Arcane... well so far, I got the Reduvia with C scaling. Pretty nice weapon art though, and strong as far as daggers go. So it's probably the best Arcane dagger in the game.
But what about other weapons? I got this gay-ass clinging bone weapon with D scaling. A dragon communion scale with C scaling. I presume the scaling will increase as I level up the seal. But all the dragon spells take more faith than arcane to wield, so I have to split stats to make the most of it anyway. And then there's the halberd with B scaling, which looks promising. So I'll probably switch to it. Though, I don't think I can equip rivers of blood to it, so it might not be worth it anyway.
That's it, 4 arcane weapons so far. I'm still only exploring Liurnia. but still. Compare that to all the in stuff I found.
Ivory Sickle
Crystal Knife
Crystal sword
Moonveil
Clayman's Harpoon
Horn Bow
Demihuman queen staff
Carian glintblade staff
ok, it's not as much as I thought. But hang on, I found 3 spells that only require int. So that's pretty much 3 weapons there.
You know what would make this fair? If fire was primarily controlled by arcane. Because why does faith get to dictate lighting AND fire? It should be faith=lightning, intelligence=frost, and arcane=fire. That makes sense.
>People start saying "strength builds are the real easy mode"
>Start a bleed build playthrough
>Absolutely decimate healthbars
>Even the rare enemies that are resistant to bleed are still easier, because my little bleed dagger still attacks 4 times faster than strength weapons.
>Find rivers of blood
>for the low-low price of 100 health points, I get to subtract 15-25% of the boss's healthbar.
Bleed is absolutely broken. Holy shit.
That’s fine. Had fun. Cry little man
I modded the game to start with the Mimic Tear and make it available to summon anywhere.
Yes, I did beat the game.
SOON
But i used them and béat the game what do you mean moron..kek
I will use every single mechanic the game gives me and absolutely detonate bosses with extreme damage before they even get to cycle through their entire move set and there is NOTHING you can do about.
I agree. But installing the easy-mode mod counts, right? Right?
If you didn't play the entire game with just your bare fists, you didn't beat the game.
Did I really beat Flying Dragon Agheel if I did it on horseback?
I accidentally ended up there at the start of my first playthrough and fought him with an unupgraded katana, it was very fun
>bleed weapon
you didnt beat it
I only connected one hit every twenty seconds because I was a pussy, so I can guarantee I didn't get any bleed procs