If you were completely new to competitive TCG and wanted to play one of these games, in paper specifically, which one would you choose?
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If you were completely new to competitive TCG and wanted to play one of these games, in paper specifically, which one would you choose?
Yugioh, because high level competitive games are usually over in 1 to 3 turns so I'd be spending the least amount of time possible playing a TCG.
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The best part of a TCG is when you don't have to play it and go back to looking at tik-tok videos on your phone between rounds.
those 1 to 3 turns still take 30 minutes
Each. YGO is a fricking slog to get through sometimes.
Is it true that MTG is dead? Or is it just a meme?
It's dead to me
Does Aragon count as a rainbow commander?
>hey guys we’re going to turn this popular IP that everyone knows and loves into cards but we’re going to replace the actual characters with black people
Yikes
Ive left magic before and came back, but this is the only time I actually left and sold my cards. I stomached alot of shit but I personally didn't lile mtg being turned into a popculture crossover vehicle when RC wouldn't ban the Walking Dead cards so I'm out and its one of those things you can't retroactively fix imo. It feels good actually and everytime I see whats going on in it I realize I made the right choice.
This is the only time I feel like people are actually genuinely disenchanted with the cards and dont care anymore
It isn't dead yet, but it's been making some moves recently that bode ill. Increased crossovers, power creep extreme even by MtG standards...
Let's just day that I wouldn't be buying Hasbro stock right now.
They intend to make the game like Fortnight where every other release is some random IP they are trying to scalp fomo collectors into buying. All the original designers no longer are with the company are are override by cooperate suits trying to milk the fanbase.
Things like "Social justice issues" are shoved into the game's messages, intentionally advertised to make the messages controversial to drum up interaction by both sides of their community all to publicly show they are supporting the current cultural zeitgeist to ensure that Wizard's and by extension Hasbro's ESG score increases to both ensure better investment opportunities by the government and to raise the end of year bonus' for higher management. All this is because its easier to just put black people in LOTR then it is to retrofit your environmental impact for easy ESG score increases and they know that even if a bunch of their audience boycotts over bad card design, social messaging or card quality, the increase in investment opportunities will win out in the long term.
This soullessness is killing the game and the passion the developers have for it in a spiral. Its not dead, its just drinking the poison, it will be a decade before all this catches up with them.
MtG, cheap and reliable counterfeits make it most approachable.
>If you were completely new to competitive TCG and wanted to play one of these games, in paper specifically, which one would you choose?
Flesh and Blood.
This. Frick mtg and their black aragorn and magic 30 fiasco
None of them have healthy formats worth playing at large with the general public. Magic is unfixable without big data, which wotc actively hides. Pokemon could be a lot better, but it requires changing a few basic rules, so a community can't be built up using the official online client. I haven't played a lot of yugioh, but all the memes online have me believing that every game is over in a few turns due to combo decks ruling everything. Your milage may vary.
>all the memes online have me believing that every game is over in a few turns due to combo decks ruling everything. Your milage may vary.
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it's over in two turns because every deck is a combo deck. but you've played like 20 cards so it's definitely not boring
>I haven't played a lot of yugioh, but all the memes online have me believing that every game is over in a few turns due to combo decks ruling
>unironically believing pic rel
anon it's just a joke. the strongest decks have always been control/lockdown decks, it's just that those decks aren't popular outside of pro play, thus you rarely hear about them until a major ycs event
Yugioh because nostalgia
Yu-Gi-Oh has the biggest player base i reckon
Chaotic
They all suck dicks.
If I simply "had" to play one it would be Magic, not because it's good, but because it's historically significant. And I would not play with any new cards, I'd instead just download the Shandalar videogame and play with cards from 1994 to really understand what it was all about, uncorrupted by the freaks in the current WotC.
If I were to start a new TCG today it would be Flesh and Blood because 90% of the events at my LGS are Flesh and Blood events.
Whichever one where you can find a friend who' as new as you are
Do you like cute creatures and teenage girls?
Play Pokemon.
Do you like cute creatures, teenage girls, giant robots and dragons?
Play Yu-Gi-Oh.
Do you cheer when you see white people being replaced in their own nations by hordes of third worlders?
MtG is the game for you!
>only argument against MtG is idpol shit that ignores the decades of based material before wokies got their claws in
Another weeb tacitly admits MtG's superiority.
>Do you like cute creatures, teenage girls, giant robots and dragons?
There's Digimon now too
None of them. If you want to familiarize yourself with TCGs in general play one of the MTG singleplayer videogames preferably Shandalar with Manalink but good luck getting that to run. Then you can find a different TCG that isn't these three to play. Yugioh is absolute worst don't bother getting invested in it any manner. Pokemon is literally for children so playing paper is out of the option just play the GBC games.
Pokémon, hands fricking down. Giga mainstream, has an official online simulator that isn't gachashit or grindshit and the expensive cards tend to be full arts of waifus so you can have a functional deck without spending triple digits.
YGO is way too complex in its interactions imo. The burden of knowledge on the player to know how to trip up their opponent's deck is intense and the game badly needed to stop creeping the complexity
On the other hand because its so hard to approach meaningfully, its helped filter out the kind of parasites that other games like MTG and 40K have where outsiders invade it and turn it into a battleground for stale idpol creeps.
Yugioh requires you to be in the cult to derive any modicum of enjoyment from. Konami basically just leeches off its cultists while forcing them to be good little paypigs every 3 months by usage of the banlist and absurd power creep.
Magic has been driven into the ground by Wizards of the Coast despite being competent game. They are probably the dumbest publicly traded corporation in existence, even major financial banks are telling them to stop reprinting things into oblivion, pissing off their core audience, and invalidating in person play. The game is so mismanaged that the value of everything is crashing. There's no point in giving WOTC a cent since they deserve to go under.
Pokemon is fricking boring and is coasting by purely off IP strength and the zoomer collection fad that started during the pandemic.
Vanguard has the Yugioh problem but doesn't have the cultists to back it up so they had to reset it and now it's bleeding out a slow death.
FaB, Grand Archive, and Metazoo are just "collector" bait crypto-tier scams.
One Piece is currently being scalped to hell but is otherwise competent. If it survives after the price hype dies down it's probably the best one to invest in.
Battle Spirits Saga is DoA because it's ugly as sin, which is unfortunate since it's an actually fun game.
Digimon has the best mechanics for fun but lacks anything that makes it competitive since every match is just a roulette for both players.
All TCGs are basically god awful at this point, the entire genre is fully enshittified to justify corporate profits at the cost of anything that made them desirable for consumers.
Pokemon, because it's the chillest. I am going to assume nothing has changed since I played it in 1998.
It got power-creeped to Hell and back.
There is nothing chill about playing in an event with a bunch of screaming ADHD kids that don't know what they're doing and who mommy and daddy only use the LGS as a day care. I always avoid my LGS on pokemon days.
I would i can still play this.
*wish, anime has rotted my brain