I'm about to get into Pathfinder. Any tips for someone new to CRPGs?

Like I said. Filtered. Stop seething about it and just abandon these threads. Why waste your time kvetching in a thread about a game you don't like?

>seething sperglet.
Kek. Stay mad people like playing a game you dont like. Sperg.

It's like the very concept of "not a good entrypoint into CRPGs" doesn't even enter your brain.
Example, for someone that has never played a CRPG before, which is more accessible, Dragon Age Origins or Pathfinder Kingmaker? Dragon Age Origins by a mile.

This is also assuming you can stomach the lower quality of Owlcat products as well, which is another factor. Poor design, balance, writing, quest design, UX and so on. This is also why a more consistently good and solid game is a better entrypoint.
The heavy-handed narrative design is enough to put off even hardcore CRPG players.

It makes no sense. Baldur's Gate I and II's Enhanced Editions are both there, but Icewind Dale I and II did not get the same treatment?

i'm not trying to disprove anything, i completely believe you when you say you're too disabled to play a crpg, i'm just telling you not to assume everyone else is as moronic as you are

>maybe early on there were some serious bugs, but it got ironed out pretty fast
You clowns are delusional.
It had tons of severe bugs and issues for several months. When the devs fixed one game breaking bug they introduced another. Fans managed to fix a few game breaking issues the devs failed to fix long after release. Even a year after release there were still significant and a large number of issues.
Right now, the game is still more of a mess than other modern CRPGs.
They then repeated this for Wrath.

If you can't even be rational about facts, you cemented your delusional fanboyism in one post.

>frick off morons, i started only a few months after release and played the game several times through, i never had any serious bug issues
The games are infamous for the very thing you claim isn't true. With user reviews, videos, threads on this very board and more being direct proof.

But clearly it's the world that's wrong, not you. Because tou can't possibly be wrong about anything.That's what your mommy told you.

Good thing you're not in QA. Every other QA persons bug reports don't matter so long as you don't run into any bugs.

Why do you pretend your individual experience holds any relevancy here.
You just cemented that you're a delusional idiot that no rational human being should interact with. Which I no longer will.

>no one but you played the game after release

>every other user of the game that has played the game, didn't play the game or only played it after release, because i say so
that straight jacket suits you

>i never said anything factually incorrect, you're nitpicking about the difference between "after launch" and "six months after launch"
I'm saying that that game was broken well after launch, not just at launch. Which is factually true. Because we have a delusional moron here claiming it was ONLY broken at launch.

If your fanboy ass wants to equate that to "nitpicking", then go ahead.

>it's not
You already cemented yourself as an irrational fanboy, why do you think your voice has any weight here. Irrational people like you should be ignored by all because you can't discuss things rationally with them, which I will do right now. Keep living in your bubble.

>2/3rds of them are jrpgs
>of the rest, more than half of them are shit like elder scrolls and pretty much incomparable to the games we were talking about like pahtfinder, dos, and poe
lmao

like literally i go ctrl-f the catalog for poe or dos and they're not there

if the game is so bad, then why is it the only one in its genre that has a significant following here?

face it anon, the game isn't bad, the game just isn't to your taste because you like to turn your brain off when you play instead of think about builds and shit

the threads have been consistent since kingmaker got patched up to a decent level, funny coincidence that

>First of, how is that relevant here.
it's actually not, as i said earlier i hate doing the same appeal to the masses as you did, however i may as well give a counterexample of the same sort of fallacy

in the end the only really important thing is that the game is good to plenty of people and if you're upset they're enjoying themselves you'll just have to deal with it

pic rel filename
you see how hard it is for us non-morons to communicate with the likes of yours, since you fail even at the most simple observations and continue to fester in your delusions?

well yes, so you can see this is a recent pic with this very thread and don't have to waste time to check for yourself

another objective fact, poe games have higher scores compared to pathfinder games, both critics and users

I'm surprised the PoE games have such a high rating. I thought it the first one had a boring story and shit combat and didn't bother finishing it.

PoE games are overall better games. More polished an better designed. But Pathfinder can scratch a certain niche for some people.

Well if you like playing worse games then by all means, don't let me stop you from playing Owlcat's games.

the stilted dialogue is not an objective flaw, some people are fine with it or don't give a shit, which proves it doesn't affect the core ability to enjoy the game, the way gamebreaking bugs do

i don't even know what your problem with quest design is, are you okay

>the stilted dialogue is not an objective flaw, some people are fine with it
That's like saying
>a shitty unresponsive camera is not an objective flaw, some people are fine with it

As for quest design, it's arguably the worst out of any modern crpg, or even RPG for that matter.
Witcher 3's quests make Pathfinder's quests look like a grade schooler made them.

Yes the writing in Kingmaker is way stronger than most of its contemporaries on an emotional and macro big picture standpoint. Larian can write but focuses too much on tedious humour and their lawls kill whoever you want approach handicaps a lot of the stories they try to tell due to simple dev production feasibility plus in OS2 they flat out just stopped giving a shit by Arx. Bioware's a shambling corpse, Bethesda and Emil are still huffing those paint fumes, and the less said about nu-Obsidian the better

>Yes the writing in Kingmaker is way stronger than most of its contemporaries on an emotional and macro big picture standpoint
What? Larian and Owlcat both employ absolutely terrible writers. Some of the dialogue issues can be attributed to the bad narrative design to a certain extent, but it's still fricking bad.
When Kingmaker starts you off realizing that everyone, including your PC, is moronic and you choices and actions during play don't matter at all, you know you're in for a rough time.
We're talking games where if you say nice/bad things it alters your alignment. Like a bad person saying "I won't kill anyone" gives you good boy points right there. Like wtf is that shit.

>not really
Yes really, you just choose to ignore it because you like it and tell others they should ignore it as well. Both are problems. Bad writing it bad writing. Even if you like the writing in the Star Wars prequels that doesn't magically make the writing good.

>and it also arguably isn't, especially if you don't make an argument for why you think so
It uses archaic and bad structure from over 20 years ago. We're talking bad MMO type of quest design. We're talking simplistic fetch quests.
Meanwhile in Witcher 3 almost all quests have an arc, choices and consequences, things to discover and change. Several also tie into other characters and quests later. These are just the side quests you can stumble upon when walking around on the map.
If we're comparing it then to things like the Bloody Baron questline, then Pathfinder is comically bad.
This isn't surprising, since Pathfinder's writers are literal who slavs that barely know how to write and are just larpers.

>no, your analogy is bad
It doesn't matter if you think the analogy is bad. Analogies are used to help someone understand a problem better that has trouble undertanding it. The point I made is that you don't see a problem as a problem, in which case the analogy itself doesn't matter.
Yet you chose to focus on it because I'm assuming you don't have a better defence of ignoring actual problems with games, so you choose to derail the topic.

>name 3 fetch pure quests that have no other interaction in kingmaker
How in the frick should I remember in detail the absolte ass fetch quests in Kingmaker, a game I played 4 years ago. I loosely remember some dryad taking someone hostage and she wanted a necklace or some shit.
What an atrociously idiotic thing to demand as some sort of """proof""" that Kingmaker has good quest design. But your entire approach to discussion is to resort to logical fallacies. You should become more familiar with your shitty practice
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

>I loosely remember some dryad taking someone hostage and she wanted a necklace or some shit
Oh yes, that cute minor side quest with about 5 different solutions, which can be solved purely by talking. Totally an MMO fetch quest.

oh shit, that dryad that was trying to drown some loggers is what he was talking about?

holy frick, that's probably the most flexibly solvable side quest in the entire game, you can solve it in so many different ways, from talking, to fighting, to countering the dryad if you have the right spell prepared, to just going and helping her with her problem, or helping the loggers instead?

and THAT is his example? i didn't even realize that's what he was talking about since it's such a ridiculous example

Because the deranged monkey specifically asked for fetch quests from a game that came out 4 years ago.

The mere idea that someone would remember atrociously shitty and barebones fetch quests, as something that stick out in your memory, 4 years later is so absolutely insanely moronic that only a subhuman ape could've thought it was a good "challenge" to pose as a way to prove that Pathfinder has good quest design.

Then again, we're speaking of Owlcat fans here, they ae all smoothbrained irrational monkeys.

>you claimed the quests were bad because they were mmo fetch quests, moron
Because they are. Good of you to pay attention this time.

>refuse to elaborate
Uh huh, sure. Meanwhile you handwave everything anyone says away and shitposts instead. You don't actually want to discuss this, just fanboy out and tell people they are wrong about something you love. Because that's what biased irrational fanboys do.
Try pulling that Owlcat wiener out of your mouth for one second, your brain needs some air.

Reputation is the main thing that matters, and game journos are bound to give their scores according to audience expectations.

Vanilla PoE without the excellent DLCs is utterly mediocre, but Obsidian had an incredible reputation at the time. That's why PoE1 was so successful, while Deadfire completely flopped on release - people ended up not being interested in another game like this.

Meanwhile Kingmaker had a terrible initial reputation due to disaster release, while Owlcat were a literally who studio. Most casual players were disaffected, but the actual core players loved it, and the game became one of the all-time favorites on rpgcodex, somewhere in top 20 I believe.
Eventually it got a very positive word of mouth, and that's why WotR became a huge success sales wise. But it stayed casual-unfriendly, and the game's reputation was massively fricked by incredibly woke source material compared to Kingmaker, which was adapted into the game.

Ultimately, WotR retroactively soured Kingmaker's reputation and turned Owlcat into a "woke dev" in the eyes of players. Rogue Trader is going to show if it's true, if Owlcat are able to make a good original rpg, and if they managed to maintain a loyal playerbase to keep selling their games.
Personally, I think their new game has a very good chance to flop - but I recommend ignoring opinions of /vrpg/ schizos and autists with their predictions until Rogue Trader actually comes out (including me, or the people who are going to get upset because of this post and reply).

Actually, I'd call Larian the only rpg developer with a perfect reputations at this point, they're too big to fail. You might say their writing is bad, but "bad writing" turns into "serviceable" or even "good" if a person in question likes the game in question, or into "terrible" or "abysmal" if he hates the game in question. And they have an absolutely massive audience that likes their games.

You obviously didn't read Steam comments on release, and didn't see how its Steam score dropped over a few days. Rpgcodex is also very lukewarm towards WotR, though it's mostly noticeable because of one obsessed Larian autist who made a thread to cherrypick cringe lines.
Though Owlcat certainly needs to hire MUCH better translators.

Outside of the bitter crazies I would say the current word-of-mouth reception for Owlcat is really good now that the worst bugs for the Pathfinder games are fixed. Similar to how New Vegas is still discussed and very popular now with people even though at release it was criticized heavily for endless bugs.

Outside of the dumb woke shit (which most people can handle even if they dislike it) I think they show competency in good RPG design and writing so I'm thinking Rogue Trader will be good.

Your point about Larian is good too, they tend to get a pass for shit writing since they put a lot of effort into their game and the combat is solid and engaging. I think if Baldur's Gate 3 holds up in the writing department through all the acts they will explode in popularity as right now they're leaning more heavily on tabletop RPG and turn based combat fans but they don't have the "I'm in it for the story" or Waifu-ism romance fantasy people on board yet since their writing is barebones and silly. Being grounded in a more established setting will probably help them a lot with that, as the Divinity setting is very barebones and I'm not sure if they're ever going to flesh it out comprehensively like Pathfinder or Dungeons and Dragons are.

Oh wait, I'm not 100% correct. You can actually find the first PoE thread by searching "Deadfire".
Guess neither of us cares about Deadfire enough to keep this game's name in mind.

>the spastic rage is not spastic because we're not in a general
ok

those people are advocating from the assumption that any player is like them, completely casual and helpless, it's no surprise some dude got mad at them

>Right now you assumed they were talking about themselves.
no i didn't, it seems you just made an assumption about me anon 🙂

it says nowhere in that quote that they're talking about themselves 🙂

it still doesn't say anywhere in that text that they're talking about themselves 🙂

that's still not them talking about themselves 🙂

It's literally the Pathfinder fanboys, like you, that sperged out over the tiniest things in this very thread. You did it right now again.

Someone effectively said
>X isn't a good entrypoint into CRPGs
You can your fanboy buddies flipped out because you interpreted it as someone """hating""" on sometihng you like. Since you emotionally attach yourself to a product you take it as a personal attack and get upset. This is behavior that would be acceptable for a 6 year old, which you're clearly not.
Now you'll reply with another overemotional and upset reply.

>no i didn't
I quote you here [...]
>"those people are advocating from the assumption that any player is like them, completely casual and helpless"
If that isn't you making assumptions about them with that very concrete statement you would need to have factual evidence that it was indeed what they did. Which you do not have.

So unless you present evidence, it was in fact an assumption made on your part, that was presented as fact.

But we both know you will reply with another shitpost. Pathfinder fans can't actually discuss things after all.

[Autism beam noises]

>objective flaws
there are none, after the game stopped being bugged there are only subjective flaws left, i think you not understanding the difference between those two is the reason you get into stupid arguments like this

I'm not reading this thread, how do you win an argument by cutting off your dick?

i don't know, you tell me, troony, lmao

the stilted dialogue is not an objective flaw, some people are fine with it or don't give a shit, which proves it doesn't affect the core ability to enjoy the game, the way gamebreaking bugs do

i don't even know what your problem with quest design is, are you okay

it's not shit writing, it's inexperienced ESL writing; they have a good point to make, you just have to stop being autistic about expecting a mainstream novel's editing quality to appreciate it

if you want a novel, then go read a novel, but don't pretend everyone else should be equally autistic about some idiom used wrong in a video game as you are

the content of the writing is decent, the manner of the writing is ESL, those are two different things

i strongly disagree, but that perception is more understandable if you only played the beginning of kingmaker

i was very impressed with kingmaker's writing, but the payoff happens really late, when you realize how many plots by supernatural buttholes you were seeing the signs of all along

you know, even a snipe like that is actually your admission that writing quality is, in fact, a subjective flaw 🙂

i'm glad you agree 🙂

Yes the writing in Kingmaker is way stronger than most of its contemporaries on an emotional and macro big picture standpoint. Larian can write but focuses too much on tedious humour and their lawls kill whoever you want approach handicaps a lot of the stories they try to tell due to simple dev production feasibility plus in OS2 they flat out just stopped giving a shit by Arx. Bioware's a shambling corpse, Bethesda and Emil are still huffing those paint fumes, and the less said about nu-Obsidian the better

yeah, it's just sad that people give up before then payoff even happens and then whine online how cliche the kingmaker story is, when it's actually anything but

Unfortunately, Owlcat writes their characters in a very infantile way to the point where it's hilarious and hard to actually take seriously. It's one of the many reasons why I find it hard to actually get invested in anything. Doesn't help that the world just feels slapped together with no rhyme or reason.

I would appreciate a character that doesn't seem like they were dropped on their head as a baby.

I never played Drakensangs. Who are you even talking about?

i love amiri, I'm so pissed you can't romance her

the first time i got to the old sycamore on my very first run, i just did it by pure exploration without knowing i should be there yet, and i distinctly remember realizing that there must be a lot more to the map for whatever reason

the bug you reference isn't something i've come across myself, however i wouldn't call it gamebreaking to miss out on some instructions on where to go look for the gnome, since it's not like you have many options anyway at that stage in the game

>>is a dish from a Michelin-star restaurant better than a hot-dog from a stand?
>>no it's all subjective
see, i still find this sad because every time someone says something about the story being bad and cliche i know they never made it far into the game, kingmaker has one of the best stories in crpgs, it just doesn't become obvious until later on

>i know they never made it far into the game, kingmaker has one of the best stories in crpgs
well maybe more people would make it far into the game if it was overall better designed and people wouldn't bore out of it by chapter 2

the undead are from a graveyard that the cleric was using for troops, isn't it?

and the animals were there because the other bandits were disposing of corpses on the other side of the fort, thus attracting scavengers

anyway, what about the ability to talk your way into the fort in kingmaker? what about the ability to make a giant monster inside your ally? what about the ability to sabotage the wine shipments to the fort, making the fight easier? what about the option to stealthily take out most of the opposition before starting the fight?

i think you're ignoring a lot here

>the undead are from a graveyard that the cleric was using for troops, isn't it?
I just recently retried playing PKM and I don't think there is a narrative explanation for undead
even if there is one as you say, it kinda seems lazy, just loitering in front of the fortress? in PoE the necromancer hides them in the sewers dungeon, much more appropriate if you ask me
>whatabout..
>talk your way in
as I said both have several entry points, some with combat, some with skill checks
>giant ally
as I said, both have allies. but Ok, I don't think you can get a fighting help in PoE, we can give a point to pkm sure, that makes it 4 to 1
>stealthily take out
again stealth fights are possible in PoE as well, I don't see how that is unique to Staglord's fort
>i think you're ignoring a lot here
you are free to help me out

>give no examples of specific quests and doing a detailed breakdown of each quest
>which would require not only having played the game very recently but having actually choosing to play all the most awful quests, especially fetch quest ones, instead of outright not doing them because they suck
>this means the pathfinder quest design is amazing 🙂

I stand corrected, you also need to become familiar with your insane cognitive bias problem.
https://yourbias.is/

>another logical fallacy over rational or logical discussion
I'm sure you think what you said is somehow not utterly useless and irrelevant.

2/2
consider the following, both games have a fortress quests in chapter 1 with many similarities
the Staglord's fortress and Raedric's Hold
both have several entrances, both [can] have undercover allies that aid you, both have undead, both have several entry points etc.

Now let's see the differences
1) the undead in Raedric's hold sewers are there because he has a necromancer working for him to create an undead army, you can have an encounter with the necromancer and ether confront her all avoid the fight depending on the skill check
but why the frick are there undead loitering in front of staglord's fort?
point goes for poe
2) both undead and animal mobs in front of staglord's fort are literally the same type of trash mob, with no variety or any necessity to do any kind of threat-control during the battle with them since they are all the same
point goes for poe
3) PoE has a stealth option with dressing as acolytes of Berath
point goes to PoE for variety
4) PoE levels actually have different rooms and corridors, multiple ways to transfer from one map to another, Pathfinder's level is just a flat map with a wall and a 3 room fort

PoE leads by 4 points in level design

I also want to mention that hanging people and murdering his own wife in desperate attempt to deal with the hollowborn curse creates more incentive for the player to deal with Raedric and is a better backstory of an evil lord overall compared to comical backstory of staglord
>killed a guy at a river crossing
>was abused by his father boo-who
>collects taxes from a trading post but we want to be the ones collecting taxes
>some green b***h said 'please'
and even then there is an option to join Raedric's side nevertheless
another 2 points for narrative design (although I do admit the last one is sketchy since staglord is a part of a main quest which is understandably more railroaded)

>Very moronic take. A normal traveler in search for a place to settle has no reason to storm a heavily armed castle to save some shithole full of dumbfricks, unless you're roleplaying Shizu. -20 points for narrative design.

The most effective ways to get a player to care about something is either to cater to their selfishness (that it relatse to is directly beneficial to them) or to present a clear problem that they should solve. A bad ruler that drives people to get hanged en masse from a tree falls pretty well into the latter.
Also don't bring up narrative design when you don't know what that is.

The latter part about the bandit is extrinsic motivation, which can be effective to a certain extent, but intrinsically motivated content is by far more effective and engaging.

That conversation is long over becasue PoE shill got assfricked incredibly hard.

>but why the frick are there undead loitering in front of staglord's fort?
Apparently you missed the part where an undead gives you a quest to avenge him by killing the staglord.

I like PoE, but freeing the owl ear in stag lords fort alone is more impacted than any of the things you can do in raedrics. You're also dishonestly leaving out how you can sneak I to the stag lords fort, approach openly, or recruit a group of his defectors to help you assault his fort. There's also the stag lords right hand man you can convince over to your side, and the poisoned wine option, etc.

Do you really think the crap you listed for PoE is unique to PoE? It clearly wasn't since pkm has just as much. You are either a shitposting homosexual who hasn't played pkm or just a tard.

You clearly are not giving a fair comparison, given how you omit several things from pkm as pointed out by several people. Not going to discuss this any further with you because you are obviously just a shitposting tard attempting to antagonize people over stupid shit. I wouldn't be surprised if you enter into poe threads and begin sputtering shit about pkm being a perfect game.

>single package.
Liar. You get them separately. You can even kill the defectors when you go to get Svetlanas ring and lose access to them. If you fail the lore religion check you fail to get the right hand man but if you didn't kill the defectors you can still have them side with you. Also if you go with kessles plan to go full tard at the front gate you never get the chance to recruit the right hand man nor do any of the other stuff.
Again, who is being disingenuous?

also this wiki run reminded me of another both stupid as well as immersion breaking level-design decisions (just as that bunch of loitering zombies) by the owlcats

Roedric's fortress has trapped chests, but corridors are only trapped in the sewers, where normal inhabitants do not venture.
now tell me WTF are those traps? They are right in the middle of the room where staglord partied. Who would set up traps next to his drinking place? there is little game-sense in this as well. Everyone is dead. Such traps are only an annoyance not a challenge. They are only there to cross out "traps" on the to-do list
that's just a level designer not putting a slightest fricking thought to his work.

PoE's chapter 1 fortress still leads by 4 points

anon, you are not intellectually honest with yourself
why would you want to trick yourself out of all the people?

no matter how paranoid you are you don't put traps around the same area you hang out about as well your minions
you got to admit this is beyond moronic
>Why would anyone trap their sewer?
because it leads to an opening in the wall, since it has to
and so it can be used by the enemy/infiltrators etc.
this is actually logical
>Your a homosexual.
stay mad
I'm just having fun dissecting pkm objective flaws
which blind fanboys insist "aren't there" lol

>Also in my recent playthrough defectors and right hand man are a single package, but somehow listed separatly, lol who is dishonest here?
We already know you're lying, and your "recent" playthrough was four years ago. You completely forgot about pretty most of the game, as proven by you calling the very varied and well designed side quest an "mmo fetch quest".

Ok, I checked the wiki on that and it turns out this is actually true to get more guys in the fight you need to spare the chick with Svetlana's ring
Honest mistake there on my part
but guess? The wiki states I should have met the defector's if I spared the ring girl (which I did), however in my playthrough she was nowhere to be found on the map. So the game failed to provide context why the right hand turned up with other dudes. it's actually the game's fault lol

>The wiki states I should have met the defector's if I spared the ring girl (which I did), however in my playthrough she was nowhere to be found on the map
>it's actually the game's fault lol
We already know you're lied ("forgot") on multiple occasions , so I believe you don't have any proofs of that "game's fault"?

also this wiki run reminded me of another both stupid as well as immersion breaking level-design decisions (just as that bunch of loitering zombies) by the owlcats

Roedric's fortress has trapped chests, but corridors are only trapped in the sewers, where normal inhabitants do not venture.
now tell me WTF are those traps? They are right in the middle of the room where staglord partied. Who would set up traps next to his drinking place? there is little game-sense in this as well. Everyone is dead. Such traps are only an annoyance not a challenge. They are only there to cross out "traps" on the to-do list
that's just a level designer not putting a slightest fricking thought to his work.

PoE's chapter 1 fortress still leads by 4 points

>just as that bunch of loitering zombies
You're literally asked by the other zombie to kill the Staglord. His victims, obviously - probably resurrected by the fey.
>WTF are those traps?
To keep bandits from entering, and Staglord's father from escaping and attacking him.
>PoE's chapter 1 fortress still leads by 4 points
You lost 20 points for a disaster narrative design, so PoE's fortress is losing by a landslide.

Too many typos, too much seething
... so little sense
Nice undead fanfiction i have to admit
It would actually be nice if you could overhear bandits commenting on why the frick do the killed get raised as zombies, maybe some note or something
Alas the devs just didn't care
-500 narrative design points for pkm :^)

Also I'm not the mmo fetch quest anon

>undead
Always assumed the undead are infront of the staglords fort because they are people he's executed/killed like the guy at the river crossing and the animals are clearly there to eat corpses in the ditch.
>stealth option
You can go in the side, recruit his right hand man, release an owlbear/lock it up/enrage it, you can sneak over and kill his lieutenants, recruit a group of malcontents to your side and poison his wine. Or you can just go full tard at the main gate.
>map
Yes and no. Some maps are super straight forward (most actually) but there are a few decent ones.

It's literally the Pathfinder fanboys, like you, that sperged out over the tiniest things in this very thread. You did it right now again.

Someone effectively said
>X isn't a good entrypoint into CRPGs
You can your fanboy buddies flipped out because you interpreted it as someone """hating""" on sometihng you like. Since you emotionally attach yourself to a product you take it as a personal attack and get upset. This is behavior that would be acceptable for a 6 year old, which you're clearly not.
Now you'll reply with another overemotional and upset reply.

pretty much the same for me yeah, but the other guy is right that this isn't exactly a general for any game, even if it's distinctly more about pathfinder than anything else

Scoundrel is okay up to daring.
In core, he will kinda fizzle out in the end (harder to hit, surviving with archamage armor only).

The easiest paths consider his has finesse from rogue:
Full Dex sword saint build
Full vivi or Vivi after getting uncanny dodge.

A bt more gimmicky but maybe worth it if you want to make him an archer perhaps and out of the frontlines is Eldritch Knight. You build up the bab, and keep the support spellbook. Or go full weirdo and make him a ray caster

Sure, 3 levels for finesse and dex to damage is not uncommon for such builds(save the feats for other shit).
A different rogue archetype would give him uncanny dodge at 4 too, which is great, but what can you do.

The problem I face is that I don't really have much of an Arcane caster for my party. Camellia has been keeping up with it somewhat but now that I'm at Alushnyrra the lack of Haste and only one Displacement is fricking killing me. She is still my Dispel cannon but even so I don't think it's enough.
No, I will not put Nenio in.

I've been wondering about that myself. Is it worth reclassing him into Sword Santa considering he has 3 whole ass levels into rogue?

>sword santa
fricking lmao how is this the first time I've seen this

I thought as much. I'm too much of a israelite to keep using up scrolls and potions but I'll see what I can manage.

Well, even with 3 wasted levels and magus progression, with just 1 abundant casting, woljif will cover your haste needs and other low level buff by chapter 3.
For chapter 2, you better slap in Nenio or use scrolls

>you better slap in Nenio
I will sooner play the entire game with zero arcane spellcasting before having "in" between slap and Nenio

Alright time to sent nenio back to the scroll scribing popcorn mines

Either sword saint with reach weapon or vivisectionist, eldritch knight etc.

the devs gave you freedom to do anything, which is fine

you chose to do something disgusting when given that freedom, this is exclusively your own fault

you can't tell it because you're too used to it

>Valerie
>lawful