I'm going to play Gen 3 for the first time starting with one of these.
Which does /vp/ recommend?
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I'm going to play Gen 3 for the first time starting with one of these. Which does?
Ruby
Emerald, it's got a better roster of pokemon and the gym leaders in particular are better designed
Only real benefit to RS is the midgames a bit less dragged out as there's no Magma Hideout on Jagged Pass detour
I like emerald
Emerald is a clear improvement
play ruby or sapphire first. then next time you play gen 3 play emerald
emerald, it almost completely invalidates RS. it also has way more double battles throughout the campaign which was kind of gen 3's thing. it hurts not being to catch roselia, meditite and lunatone though.
Ruby
battle frontier is overrated
Ruby first. Emerald in the future.
Emerald literally invalidates Ruby and Sapphire. Gale of Darkness is best gen 3 game and covers all the Pokemon missing but in RS if you're playing on real hardware.
OP here, I was leaning more towards the base versions as opposed to the "special edition versions" such as Pokemon Yellow or Pokemon Crystal to expereince the originals, however answers seem overwhelming Emerald.
Care to share the major changes and inprovements? If it matters I'm going to play on an actual gameboy as opposed to an emulator
yeah, emerald has
>a worse champion
>a worse 8th gym leader
>a worse climax
but you get muh rng frontier so that makes it okay
>frontier
If it makes a difference i have no intention of playing battle frontier. This is more about experiencing the single player game unless battle frontier is part of the story
>If it makes a difference i have no intention of playing battle frontier
then it doesn't matter, none of the other improvements are worth noting
>If it makes a difference i have no intention of playing battle frontier.
then play ruby
or sapphire, i guess. one of those.
The battle frontier is completely optional. You don't even have to visit the island as part of the history.
Emerald is just overall a more finished game
It added icons for the items, entry animations for the pokemon, the battle frontier, made the inventory a bit bigger, made the story better, added EV reducing berries, pickup table now depends on your level which prevents you from just cheesing the game with early ultra balls, the gym leaders have better teams...
only downside is the champion isn't as good as RS', but you can still fight RS' champion in the post game
>Many more tag-double battles throughout the game
>You battle both teams instead of just one
>All contests now take place at Lilycove, replaced by Battle Tents that give you previews of how Battle Frontier facilities work
>Expanded Pokemon roster
>Wallace was promoted from Sootopolis Gym Leader to Champion, replacing Steven Stone. Wallace's mentor Juan takes his spot as Sootopolis Gym Leader
>Steven is now a postgame bonus boss
>Emerald seeds are fixed and can thus be used to RNG manipulate
>The Battle Tower was expanded to include more facilities, now called the Battle Frontier. Move tutors sell moves here for BP earned from the facilities
>The Frontier Battle Tower can be used to clone Pokemon
>Arbitrary code execution lets you access events, like catching Deoxys, Lugia+Ho-oh, and Mew
>The cart's sticker has a cool broken glass texture
>Expanded Pokemon roster
Name one Pokémon you can catch before the Elite 4 that you couldn’t in Ruby or Sapphire.
This. Sapphire makes a little more thematic sense. That said, Emerald does have a slightly better story with its minor changes.
>Steven is now a postgame bonus boss
Where do you fight him? I played Emerald lots of times, yet never fought him ever since I dropped Sapphire.
Not like I missed much, I picked Swampert so I steamrolled his team. But I want to fight his steel team again.
He's in Meteor Falls. You'll need Surf and Waterfall to navigate it. His Pokemon are in the 70's, so he's far stronger than Wallace.
Let me guess. In the Bagon area.
Gonna kick ass now. I trained my mons to 100 because I wanted the Battle Frontier Symbols. Now he is in for a surprise.
Oh also I forgot that you can get both fossils in one save. You'll get your first from Mirage Tower in the desert after you get the goggles, then the tower collapses and the one you didn't pick sinks into the sand. Head to the fossil maniac's house left of Fallarbor Town after you become Champion and a section of the wall in there will have collapsed, revealing a path that leads to where the second fossil sunk to. You can catch wild Ditto here too.
you only get one of the legendaries in ruby/sapphire and you get both of them in emerald
The only Pokémon exclusive to Ruby/Sapphire that are unfortunate exclusions from Emerald are the Meditite line and Zangoose, but the game makes up for it with the Lotad and Seedot Lines, Mawile and Sableye, both fossils, and both Groudon and Kyogre (Ruby and Sapphire's cover legendaries) all being available. You even get to choose either one of Latias and Latios rather than having no choice, and the postgame also adds a large number of Johto Pokémon to the Safari Zone. Of course there's also the Battle Frontier, a story where you fight both evil teams rather than just one, reworked gym teams and also gym leader rematches, the Battle Tents, and the postgame Steven fight.
The worst part of Emerald compared to RS is that you have to battle both team aqua and magma, which could be annoying because each has their own base. I would still go with Emerald if I were to start a gen 3 playthrough.
The story becomes messy and the midgame is padded with grunt fights. You have to do multiple hideouts and constantly travel from one point of the region to the other. Base games are more streamlined, coherent and with better pacing.
Just play it for the amazing and detailed climax of Groudon vs Kyogre
Battle frontier is goated
Safari zone has a new area that opens up after you beat the pokemon league
Oh yeah almost forgot post-game gym leader rematches too, those are fun
The pickup ability was completely changed in emerald so you couldn't farm good/rare items anymore for example.
Ruby and Sapphire are the only "base version" games I'd dare to call bad in comparison to their third version. Emerald improves a lot of enemy teams, actually does stuff with double battles, and improves the plotline significantly.
What you should really be doing is playing Ruby or Sapphire first and then immediately play Emerald afterward so you can go "holy shit they were right"
sapphire or emerald
ruby puts the volcano team under the sea instead of in a volcano so its moronic
in sapphire and emerald the sea based team are in the underwater base, and in emerald the volcano team have a base under a volcano
Sapphire also has the sea team at a volcano at some point
they are at the top of the volcano to get the orb, rather than having their base there
>they are at the top of the volcano to get the orb
No, you're conflating the two mountains in Hoenn together. Team Aqua is at Mt. Chimney to use the meteorite Professor Cozmo found to extinguish the volcano, so it can fill with rainwater and provide a new habitat for aquatic Pokemon. The player chases them off and takes the meteorite back. This plotline is in Emerald as well. The Red and Blue Orbs are found at Mt. Pyre, south of Lilycove. Team Aqua steals the Red Orb, Team Magma steals the Blue Orb. They can't control Groudon and Kyogre with them because the idiot leaders stole the wrong orbs.
In RS, Groudon and Kyogre sleep in the Seafloor Cavern, then move to the Cave of Origin in Sootopolis City after being awakened. That's why Team Magma still needs to get down there. In Emerald only Kyogre sleeps down there, while Groudon sleeps in Mt. Chimney. So instead of steal the submarine Team Magma digs into the volcano to reach its base and awaken Groudon, who them digs down to reach Sootopolis.
my mistake i meant use the orb rather than get
my point is still that a volcano team having an undersea base and also groudon being under the sea are less good thematically than the sea team and kyogre being under the sea
emerald improves this by moving both magma's base and groudon to inside the volcano
The only bad thing about Emerald is that Courtney doesn't appear.
RS -> FRLG -> Colosseum -> XD -> Emerald
Gen 3 is all one game in 5 parts by the way.
Is sceptile viable in R/S?
I remember picking Torchic and breezing through the game when it evolved into Blaziken. I got the game when it first came out (oldgay) so i had no idea how the fully evolved starters looked like and being disappointed with how Blaziken looked. I also don't remember that majority of trainer pokemon were water. Part of me wants to replay the game with Sceptile since I think he's the coolest looking starter in Hoenn
sceptile is definitely the shittiest starter but the game is so easy it shouldn't matter.
Yes, because Grass is a Special type here. Leaf Blade will take you far, and it gets False Swipe too.
it is as good as grass is offensively. It won't be using coverage moves off its SpA stat. Good as dealing grass damage but that's about it
It's an ok mon overall but it's much worse than the other starters, both for it's stat spread and it's typing. Main issue is lack of decent stab during the first half of the game
Why is Gen 3 so comfy?
Because it came out before XY sucked all the soul out of the series.
But XY was great.
GBA games feel timeless in general. They're in that sweet spot for being old but not "Retro-style" old.
Kek even back then game freak had shit graphics, I guess gens and 5 are the only good looking Pokémon games ever made
>Gen 5
>Good looking
Gen 5 is good but zoom effects on sprites are ugly
why would it be anything but emerald?
you basically arent playing the complete game otherwise.
Emerald. Not even a contest. Better story, better gym teams, slightly better postgame, slightly better catchable roster.
One thing I like to do is take my team through Mt. Battle in Colosseum. It's a trip to see my 2D-trained team and my character suddenly, temporarily in 3D, and you can net some neat prizes from it.
Play Sapphire so the evil team makes sense. Play up to the end, fight Steven too.
After you get comfy, play Emerald. Is the right step up.
emerald carries gen 3. ruby and sapphire are fine but emerald makes them good. i grew up with sapphire, replaying ruby, desperately wish i had emerald instead
Op get sapphire it's the best kyogre is based, emerald isn't better. Battle frontier isn't good. Find a feebas and evolve it for maximum comf. It only takes an hour or so to check all the river tiles
my fav gen ;3