Im in 10 hours and Im not feeling the main party at all, especially Basch and Penelo, do they get better or is the game just not for me

Im in 10 hours and Im not feeling the main party at all, especially Basch and Penelo, do they get better or is the game just not for me

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. Anything homosexual Fantasy is garbage.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, not at all. They're the worst party in the entire franchise, and that's saying something when XV exists. 12 is a game that you play if you like the gameplay. The story is just straight up dogshit, which is pretty funny considering how much time is spent sitting through fricking cutscenes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This .
      If anything, the story is at its best at the start and falls off a cliff. After that, you're pretty much relying on gameplay to pull you through the game

      Personally I like the party, but also because I can see the potential the party had that they just fricking dropped because they gave up on writing a story

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >square can't even manage mediocre writing that doesn't revolve around a love story

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      15 has an amazing party, that's like the only thing it does have. There just isn't any coomerbait and the antagonists are trash barring Noc's brother.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >No coomerbait
        It's girl Kain.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >coomerbait
        I've fapped like 20 times to Sid

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >coomerbait
        I've fapped like 20 times to Sid

        I mean Cindy**

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >15 has an amazing party, that's like the only thing it does have
        They're awful, absolutely awful. Prompto's entire fricking story happens off screen: you run into him in the final dungeon where he randomly tells you he was actually a robot all along or some shit completely out of nowhere and then your party just goes "uh, okay?" and moves on. Gladio spergs out at Noctis for being upset that his fricking wife is dead but he's also le funny cup noodles man, and halfway through the game he fricks off from the party and literally says "if you wanna know what happened buy the dlc!" when he gets back. Ignis is literally nothing, I actually couldn't tell you anything about him. The party is fricking awful.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          prompto's not a robot he's more like boba fett

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The setting is S-tier.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Story is bad because there are parts when you can VISIBILY tell it's missing and game just shuttles you from dungeon to dungeon. I think until 15's infamous development it was 12 that was the most blatantly unfinished entry in the core series.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >12 is a game that you play if you like the gameplay.
      There's more important reasons to play videogames?
      Ah wait, I forgot Fgays want comfort food movies instead of games, my bad.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's the best Final Fantasy game, maybe JRPGs just aren't for you.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Where did she get a latex bodysuit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It really weirds me out in Japanese videogames when they try to do Caucasian females in 3d models/cgi....like something is off. Same thing in dead or alive Xtreme Venus vacation. Maybe because only a super weeb Caucasian would do poses like that?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are you talking about the poses or the fact that they add Asian features to them that they look like Urgo-Finns?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      the way she dangles that bag hnggg

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >do they get better
    No, those two are completely unnecessary for the story.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Its not even that the game isnt for you, fans of 12 agree that party is dogshit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Dogshit is harsh but the only FF with a weaker main party is probably 8

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        squall alone is better than anyone from XII, they're NES tier

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Squall and Rinoa are literally the only characters with any sort of notable personality in 8 which was my point. Everyone else is just...there. Like there's something like there's 6 more guys and it's hard to name almost anything about them beyond some very VERY surface stuff.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Squall and Rinoa are literally the only characters with any sort of notable personality in 8 which was my point
            that's still two memorable characters compared to XII's grand total of zero, which was my point
            and if you count Laguna that makes three

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >compared to XII's grand total of zero
              I don't really agree. I at least know surface stuff and sorta like most of the 12 cast even if I agree their really weak. I legit know jackshit about almost any FF8 character. I can't even remember their names while I can remember most of the 12 cast's names
              Laguna fricking sucks lmao.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Disagreed, they're quite literally all unmemorable including the limey han solo wannabe
                >Laguna fricking sucks lmao.
                shit taste

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Ahh you like Lagunas pace breaking, shitty and ultimately pointless asides. Yeah, I think you're the moron here tbh,

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >pace breaking
                drop the ritalin in favour of tide pods you moronic zoomer

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Laguna is the only time where it felt like anyone had any sense of focus, goals or personality at all.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You mean Vaan?
    Basch is more central to the plot since he interacts with the b***h that isn't Penelo and Fran. Penelo is just there as a sidekick to Vaan and was kinda OP in the original.
    Overall the cast is terrible and despite the small size the only one that gets the spotlight is Basch and the what's her face.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ashe

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Okay and Vaan interacts with the entire cast and has multiple heart to hearts with Ashe.
      Basch does not do nearly as much as people like to parrot on the internet.

      It has the same problem as FF10 where you can remove the player character, Titus in 10 and Vaan/Penelo here, and you don't have to change anything except cut out the totally overly long intro tutorial sequence.

      Remove Tidus and X's plot falls apart.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Okay and Vaan interacts with the entire cast and has multiple heart to hearts with Ashe.
        >Basch does not do nearly as much as people like to parrot on the internet.

        This is sort of the thing though. All those "Heart to hearts" with Ashe or any other character probably would have been better served by literally any other character. Vann is not only superfluous but he actually gets in the way of other characters because as the "main" character he has to DO something but what he does DO comes off as more token MC pep talks that probably would have been more meaningful with literally any other character. So Van isn't just pointless he actually gets in the way. You could have some shit with Balthier and Bashe sort of acting as Ashe's shoulder angels about her sense of duty and responsibility.

        No, not really. Balthier is pretty much the only entertaining party member in the cast.

        Even his "LEADING MAN" shtick gets old kind of fast. It's funny at first to see him just style on Vann but then it just gets sort of sad.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Certain scenes only work because Vaan is a representative of the average poorgay in Ivalice. He serves to remind people like Ashe and Basch who exactly they're fighting for/their actions effect.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, not really. Balthier is pretty much the only entertaining party member in the cast.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This game is fricking amazing. I find Zodiac Age kinda cringe tho. The original on PS2 is based as frick. And then if you want more then play Zodiac Age on PC with mods.

    Literally the most kino FF, anyone who says otherwise just got filtered hard as frick.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This game would have been better without Penelo and Vann. Basch is only interesting because of his brother.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It has the same problem as FF10 where you can remove the player character, Titus in 10 and Vaan/Penelo here, and you don't have to change anything except cut out the totally overly long intro tutorial sequence.

      It's cool imo that Vaan becomes irrel after the first few hours. It's like you're a fly on the wall, a passenger with front row seats on this crazy ride. Like, you're this forgotten part of history beating the shit out of bosses and the history books don't remember your name. But you know what REALLY happened.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It has the same problem as FF10 where you can remove the player character, Titus in 10 and Vaan/Penelo here, and you don't have to change anything except cut out the totally overly long intro tutorial sequence.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      10 literally doesn't have a story without funny haha man, Kimahri is the one who could dissappear without anyone giving a frick.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I sort of disagree. I feel like if you removed Tidus all you'd really get rid of are the dumber points of the story. You'd have to doctor the script a bit but it can work. A summoner following her fathers footsteps to sacrifice herself for the greater good is a fine plot all on it's own. You can still explore the truth about sin, the futility of the sacrifice and the corruption of the world. You can just as easily change the script to account for the loss of Tidus and Jecht. The only thing that really hinges on Tidus is all that "dream of the faith" bullshit which was fricking stupid anyways. I don't know why FF always thinks it needs to have some asinine swerve or plot twist in the story when you can easily just tell something more straight forward and effective.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          So what you're saying is you want to play as Braska.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          maybe it's suggesting something about the interaction between man woman and society man

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >if you change the plot completely the plot doesn't need the moron it's built around
          No shit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Except the plot doesn't change completely. The dream shit always felt tacked on. It's all just an excuse for Tidus's wacky adventure when the core of the game and world would feel more genuine if focused on Yuna's wild ride. The core of the adventure is about Yuna's pilgrimage not Tidus's daddy issues and also dream ghosts because that makes sense.

        • 2 years ago
          Froggy

          It has the same problem as FF10 where you can remove the player character, Titus in 10 and Vaan/Penelo here, and you don't have to change anything except cut out the totally overly long intro tutorial sequence.

          Tidus has an important role as a catalyst. He is able to call out the bullshit in Spira's culture and religion.

          No, not at all. They're the worst party in the entire franchise, and that's saying something when XV exists. 12 is a game that you play if you like the gameplay. The story is just straight up dogshit, which is pretty funny considering how much time is spent sitting through fricking cutscenes.

          12 also has really good lore and setting. And then there's the bestiary. I mean the game connects the evolutionary history of Dinosaurs to Dragons and it all manages to work.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Agreed, I really don't get Tidus hate
            His role as an outsider looking in helps the player understand the game as well
            I do think the plot of the game is a touch strange anyway

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Tidus has an important role as a catalyst. He is able to call out the bullshit in Spira's culture and religion.

            Yeah, because clearly we can't have the rest of the cast wise up and mature while the grow from learned experiences over the course of the adventure. And it's not like the Al Bhed where there to call attention to the problems with Yevon. No, we need some dumbass jock with Daddy issues TELLING Yuna the problems with dogmatism and sacrifice rather than letting her have any self agency.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah well you got Yuna as the MC for X-2 and how did that turn out?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                X-2 being shit for a lot of reasons doesn't really change the issues with X-1.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yuna is just a bad character that no matter how many times she does an image change she's still undeserving of the main character spot.

                this game will forever be the ultimate filter for the series. weeb losers literally cannot bare dialogue because it's written above a third grade level and the characters and locations aren't named after engurishu words like HOPE and LIGHTNING.

                You're vomiting words you don't understand. Weebs don't even like English in their Jap media.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yuna's not a real person. She's only ever as good or as bad as the writers make her and being stuck and overshadowed on her own pilgrimage is hardly doing her any favors.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The party is almost completely forgettable. the bunny b***h is the only one I can remember.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >have the ps4 version
    >considering buying the switch version
    Handheld mode seems comfy and maybe I'll actually do post game content. Is it worth rebuying on the switch?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's the only FF that let's you run away from a horde of angry undead after you decide it'd be a great idea to loot their place so just for that IZJS is a game I will remember warmly.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FFXII is another dev disaster from Square. Its not finished, Matsuno ditched development half way in. The company was pretty much burning down at the time. Its tragic really. I loved FFT so much.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ashe is the cutest FF girl I will fricking fight you for her honor irl

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ashe is the best princess and best waifu.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The 14th one is wayyy better than the 12th go play that instead of wasting time on this trash.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    this game will forever be the ultimate filter for the series. weeb losers literally cannot bare dialogue because it's written above a third grade level and the characters and locations aren't named after engurishu words like HOPE and LIGHTNING.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cannot bare
      >bare
      So what's your excuse for being dumber than a weeb?

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