I'm new to the new generations and I haven't played a new game since Emeral, so my question it's.....

I'm new to the new generations and I haven't played a new game since Emeral, so my question it's..... why are they so broken?

I started playing a game made by fans (Pokemon Unbound) that goes from 1st gen to 8th and I would say the Fairy type are the most powerful.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They wanted to create a type to specifically balance the Gen 5 meta when Dragon was the most powerful type, and it worked a little too well. Dragongays are STILL seething about it to this very day.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They could have just buffed some of the other types if they wanted to specifically nerf Dragon
      Instead apparently Bug needed another nerf lmao

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Instead apparently Bug needed another nerf lmao
        i will never not seethe at this. i'd like the opposite to be true, where bug is SE against fairy, but for the love of god why is it NVE

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why would Bug be SE against Fairy?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            aside from giving bug a much-needed buff for having a niche against what is arguably one of if not the best type, put a praying mantis and tinkerbell in a jar and tell me who wins the 1v1 because i guarantee you tinkerbell does not leave that jar with her head attached to her shoulders
            even if you think tink wins the duel, there's not much reason against bug at least being neutral

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's not even a fair fight, Tink has magic while a Bug is while just well a bug, also Faes comes in all shape and sizes not just small, do you think it make sense for an Elf or a Goblin to be killed by a Bug?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              > put a praying mantis and tinkerbell in a jar
              tinkerbell because she has magic

              fairy shouldn’t resist bug but making bug super effective against it is about as moronic as making fighting super effective against psychic.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Berserk reference

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It isn’t broken. Water and Steel and arguably even Ghost are still better.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah they are broken as frick

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Defensively stellar. Immunity to Dragon, some good resistances and two of its weaknesses aren't know to be offensively generally
      >Offensively is one of the best in the game. Hits 3 major typings 2x and pretty much hits like 80% of the metagame for strong netrual damage.
      >Has the best spammable generic STAB move in the game
      >Majority of Fairy types either having a crazy good dual typing, or hit really hard with sizable coverage.
      >Steel/Fairy is arguably the best typing in the series. It's partially the reason why Zacian was over-whelming, Mega Mawile was absolutely terrifying, and Klefki and Tinkaton are very decent supports in lower tiers.
      >Powercreep. They overturned as a counter to dragons. But that wasn't toned down next gen, and now we are in the same situation as we were with Dragons Gen 4~5.

      I'd say Ghost is the best netrual attacking type (Dragapult is the beginning to why this sentiment exists) but as an overall typing its not as good as Fairy. Water definitely is a runner up and Steel is mostly just good with another typing since it's just good. But I wouldn't say Steel is offensively as strong as Fairy either.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fairy the troony type is stupid and makes no sense for it's strengths They Just Made It to counter the OP types at the time which was fighting dragon and steel but it makes zero logical sense if fire electric and rock were the OP types they would make fairy good against those types

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They actually put some logic in Fairy though.
      Strengths:
      >Dragons are vulnerable to Magic which Faes are magical beings that can harm them
      >Fairy could be assumed to be originally Light, but probably it overlapped with Electric and there wasn't enough mons to fit it, so it was changed but kept the Light mechanic thus is why Dark is weak to Fairy
      >Fighting is weak to Fairy, because Warriors classes are usually weak to Magic classes(hench why Fighting is also weak to Psychic which is a Hybrid between Magic and Mental Powers), also girly cooties are scary
      Weaknesses:
      >Iron is lethal to Faes in Myths, the closest Pokémon has is Steel
      >Poison kills Nature which is where Faes draw their lifeforce in exchange killing Nature kills them

      >But, they're Pink and Girly
      Every type needs a common design and color theme(ex: Water is Blue and Aquatic, Fire is Red and Fiery, and Grass is Green and Plants), since Fighting is known as the Hero Boy type, so they made Fairy the Magical Girl type to be the counterpart, yes at first it was just mostly just Pink and Girly until they started adding actual Fae themes to them later.

      People who think Fairy type is troony are low IQ and Gay.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it should’ve had one more weakness and no Bug resist

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Name a weakness that is known about Faes?

          Schizo headcanon the post

          I'm sorry, you've never read a Fairytale before

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry you just make shit up that doesn't make any sense

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He thinks it's made-up instead of actually researching on it

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            butterfly net :^)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Schizo headcanon the post

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good post

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fairy is brok-ACK!

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Neither in vgc nor in mock-competitives is it particularly more relevant than other types

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol every time fairycucks complain and have a tantrum when you suggest they should have an extra weakness and ignore that their effectiveness makes no sense

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      fairy is SE against dragon because dragons being slain in fairy tales is a common trope
      fairy is SE against fighting because magic > brute strength
      fairy is SE against dark because magic > underhanded techniques
      fairy is weak to steel because fairies are weak to iron and nature gets ruined from industrialization
      fairy is weak to poison because nature gets ruined from pollution
      fairy is ineffective against fire because fairy relies on nature magic and fire easily damages nature

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dragons being slain in fairy tales is a common trope
        The fairy doesn't do the dragon slaying you moron troon

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          But their magic does, even though indirectly it is still the Faes magic that is being used to slay the Dragon.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The fairy has nothing to do with it,

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              You can't kill a Dragon without an Enchantment which Faes can provide, most dragon slaying stories had the slaying weapon either enchanted by a witch or a fae.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          So Dragon should be weak to Steel?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Good answer.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bugs moves are strong against magical special types like psychic and dark
    >NOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE THEM STRONG AGAINST THE LITERAL MAGIC TYPE AAIIEEEEEEEEE

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fairy is nature based magic. Why would it be weak to common lifeforms found in nature?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fairy is [schizo headcanon]

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sylveon is named after the forest
          also fairies look like little people with bug wings
          so they shouldn’t be weak to Bug, but for balance’s sake they also shouldn’t resist Bug

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely benefits any type it gets paired with. Even Rock/Fairy is pretty damn great.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    relevant fairy types (most broken type according to /vp/):
    >Flutter Mane
    >Ninetales

    relevant ice types (worst type according to /vp/):
    >Ninetales
    >Chien-Pao
    >Iron Bundle
    >Baxcalibur

    wow you're right clearly fairy needs a nerf

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bait

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >wait no please stop noticing things

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fairy needs a fire weakness. I don't care if this makes fire even stronger. Being weak only to the least used defensive types is good in theory but horrible in practice. Plus it makes a lot more sense to me for dragons to be carrying fire moves as coverage instead of always needing poison jab or iron head.
    More importantly, this would add a big chunky 4x weakness to the Fairy/Steel combo, which would do wonders for balance across the board.
    Also, while fire is a prevalent, top tier type, I feel like lately it really gets overshadowed by ground and fighting. And rain is still pretty common to keep the damage in check, so I don't think this change would break fire type and make it completely overbearingly OP.
    It also makes sense thematically and tons of fairy types actually look like they should be weak to fire.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >More importantly, this would add a big chunky 4x weakness to the Fairy/Steel combo, which would do wonders for balance across the board
      mawile and tinkaton are already trash, bro

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah fire could use the buff and not be broken. It may have only 3 weaknesses but they're extremely bad weaknesses. Rock, ground, and water moves are everywhere.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm shocked that fairy hasn't received a nerf, they introduced an incredibly powerful type, everybody realized it was broken, and nothing was done about it to this day, crazy.
    I agree with a lot of people that fairy should be weak to bug, bug needs something. Maybe even make fairy and dark both supereffective against each other.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everybody realized it was broken
      who? Campaigngays? No one who plays PvP thinks it’s broken.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    steel, water, and ground are better than fairy but those four are all kind of in a league of their own. ground especially is just unstoppable and easily the best type.

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