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What did I think about it?
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You breed the succubus
I like the cat spider girl
That was an order
Correct anon, that is the correct opinion.
Daeran is cool, my girl has good taste.
Everyone in WotR is horny for everyone else anon.
Except for Seelah.
>Well, everyone does it! (they don't)
Ah I see, that's how you cope
God the writing in this game is the absolute worst I have ever seen in my entire life.
Is this the fabled good writing I hear so much about that makes pf games comparable to classics like PS:T and Arcanum?
I don't think I've ever seen anybody praise the writing in WotR outside of liking certain characters.
Laulieh is cuter than her. What a shame.
>Some random succubus with no portrait and only a 3D model that all succubi including Arueshalae use is "cuter"
Talk about desperate
Not as good as BG3 from LarianGODS!
the best thing about Shadowheart is that cuckposters moved on from making fanfiction about Arue so they can shitpost about her instead
The difference is that her's isn't actually a fanfic because she does actually want to frick Halsin and gets mad at you if you don't let her
imagine this chad as the DM for a pf2 game
I try not to think about 2E ever.
2Es feats and archetypes kick and unbelievable amount of ass though. The most freedom to build a character I've ever seen. Class/General/Heritage feats give you so many choices to make any character you can think of. I'll never forget my free hand fighter or my beast master druid.
>Final act even more butchered than WotR's act 5
>PIss easy baby mode difficulty
>Barrelmancy
>All the characters desperate to frick you, all of them are romance options
>All the girls cuck you, actual cuckoldry
I think I pass
>bear fricker can't go one thread without shilling
BG3>KM>WOTR
>KM better than WOTR
That's how I know you're just trolling
KM is more KINO, ART while wotr is a souless cash grab
KM's story is too restrictive and it doesn't let me roleplay enough
KM was a lot more comfy for me and I felt a lot more invested in the fate of my kingdom than I did about the fate of Mendev and the worldwound. The progression from mercenary to baron to king felt nicely paced out and like you really earned the progression with each chapter.
I felt like WotR had a major pacing problem which just made your PC feel laughably overpowered, even with the nahyndrian macguffins - and while the scope of the story is undeniably more epic and interesting, I just felt far less invested in what was going on because nothing really felt earned or natural and some of the late game encounters (echo of deskari in particular) become farcical because your power level is so skewed.
WotR is objectively better in pretty much every way, but I still felt less invested in it and it felt like more of a chore to play for me.
I dropped King Maker twice
First time I spent over an hour making my perfect bard, did math, decided on my ideal stat spread and spells, only for the first character who joined my party to be another bard with a worse stat spread but an identical spell list. Got butthurt and quit.
A year later I rolled up a druid and got a little further, but eventually I encountered spider swarms in a cave. Neither my druid or anyone else in the party could hit them. I killed two swarms with consumables but a third swarm spent over 20 rounds killing us with chip damage. Got butthurt and quit.
Should I try Kingmaker a 3rd time or just move on to WotR?
>Quitting because a companion shares a class with you instead of just using respec
>Quitting because you got filtered by the most infamous encounter in the game instead of actually paying attention and learn how to take care of it (or googling it)
Too impatient, you'll quit WotR too
I've beaten lots of other crpgs, though. Arcanum, Tyranny, Solasta, DivOS2... I just thought the swarm rules were kind of bullshit.
I don't like them either but there's a difference between that and dropping the game, anon
You thought
>I am going to play some Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous now.
>hey this game is pretty dope, but the build autism is a bit too much for me
Yeah anon, i agree with you totally.
You can beat the entire game just going all in on fighter as long as you arent a dipshit that plays core or above
Aldori Defender Fighter
1 scalefist monk dip
can my character get cool wings if i do angel mythic path
this is gay shit, become skeletal-man instead
Yes, but fairly late in act 5
>Complain about gay shit
>Wants him to be Zach's troony cumdumpster
lmao
Eldritch Knight is fun because magic and meele are the best combo.
Cavalier of the Paw is second best because you are unsquishable and your dog is a baller.
Kingmaker ate my fricking save in the house on the edge of time so I ragequit and lost interest in ever trying out Wrath
That you are a powerful lich, or if you aren't, tha tyou should have gone Lich.
No other game let you have such a "It's treason then" moment than the Lich does.
Demon has the moment too if you save Galfrey in Iz and confront her in Drezen
am I gay if I enjoyed the Daeran romance
>Get to choose between this and the cool murderous catgirl
Lann had no chance lmao
If you play your cards right you can get him back in chapter 5 and have both.
Lann is such a much better character compared to the poorly written "I can fix her" bait
>disposing of damaged people instead of fixing them
>good playthrough
Fixing Wenduag makes the world a better place, Lann throws a b***hfit and then joins you anyway, best of both worlds.
>Fixing Wenduag makes the world a better place
Tell that to the people she keeps killing while you're supposedly "fixing" her
She only kills two people, and one of them was some butthole merc anyway, small price to pay.
>No those doesn't count
>Also dyra doesn't count either
Wenduag is a work in progress, can't expect her to change on a dime.
Plus Dyra was asking for it.
>commissions bottom barrel deviant artist
>"yea just make a half human lizardling"
>picrel delivered
>He doesn't know.
whats the retcon to fix the artists' frickup?
What's wrong with it?
Lann is a Lawful Neutral chad who knows when to dispense punishment
Lann is extremely more based than Wen will ever be and is litmus test to see if your opinion matters
>"Commander i got a plan, let me go alone"
>*dies*
what was the fricking point of his quest?
The point is that you're a braindead moron that somehow missed the two easy triggers that let him survive
stop defending bad design.
moron, both events are unmissable, Lann comes asking for help as a chief and his mother comes to talk with you, you literally can't miss it unlike that moron Wendog who is scheming behind your back
>picking a moron who will probably gut you in your sleep over a bro
He's also a whiny frick
>waah show that do this waaah why arent you doing this?
He's not, unless you're a pussy that cries every time a character gives their opinion about something
Lann is top tier besides Regill and Daeran.
I disliked Lann from the get go, but the questline with his mom was extremely endearing and gave him a lot of depth - after it's finished though he just goes back to being an annoying goofball though which I found extremely disappointing, he has a lot of character growth which feels like it amounts to nothing as his attitude is unchanged by the end of the game
>which feels like it amounts to nothing as his attitude is unchanged by the end of the game
the "rest of the game" is act 5, the game is literally over when that happens
He has a lot of moments if you have Regill and Daeran in the party
>be trickster
>convince the council we're going to play the biggest prank ever
>go legend at the last minute and ruin everything
lmao get pranked outsider gays
Inferior combat to boredom's gate, better rpg elements and replayability. The game improves 100x if you remove nenio and skip the comedy encounters.
>better rpg elements
Like what, your choices barely matter and you can't interact with anything, it has less reactivity than bg1 even
>replayability
how lol
>Better rpg elements
You can tell everyone to frick off and take your own side, your companions actually help you when interacting around the world as well as conversations instead of the rolls being made by the lead only
>Replayabiltity
Mythic paths have something going on for them. some more than others but its still better than boredoms gate. Angel alone can be played as vengeful or forgiving while the lich can be absolute entropy incarnate or urgathoa's lapdog. You can even take what would normally be a game over condition in most crpgs and bring an end to all things as the swarm that walks.
>You can tell everyone to frick off and take your own side
You can do this in every rpg.
>your companions actually help you when interacting around the world as well as conversations instead of the rolls being made by the lead only
They do in BG3, did you even play it? Actually, it's moreso the case in BG3 because in PF a lot of choices are locked to the MC due to being presented as some sort of messiah in both games, whereas in bg3 your character is indistinguishable from everyone else in the party and interchangeable in 99.99% of situations. Like even when you use your other characters in PF it's from the lens of the MC bossing the other characters around, which isn't exactly in the spirit of a real RPG.
Cant do it in your beloved BG3. Its either the squid, the prince or the queen
>
Imagine having no taste
>Cant do it in your beloved BG3
>proceeds to explain how you can do it in bg3
What's your team?
I'm in Areelu's team. i can give my mom a new kid
>Areelu
It's inferior to BG3 gameplay-wise but that's due to PF being a shit system
Everything else, setting, characters is better, but as a game it's shit
>Everything else, setting, characters is better
Whoa there, no it's not. Literally everything about that in WotR is absurdly grating.
Which says a lot about the writing and characters in BG3
BG3 has one (one) good companion and that's the gay vampire, everyone is written like a Marvel tier quipBlack person
>everyone is written like a Marvel tier quipBlack person
Show me the Lae'zel Marvel quips.
I don't feel that way at all. I fell that WotR blows BG3 out of the water gameplay wise, because 5e sucks ass, I prefer writing and characters in WotR, but it's a matter of personal preference, both have apparent strengths and weaknesses, and BG3 is leagues ahead in everything else.
>Path "uh oh it seems you didn't pick the 'walk and breathe at the same time' feat, tough luck anon" finder
>superior to anything
Good golly my friend
You're right, feat tax exists, clearly everything breaks and is awful because you need to waste two feat slots in early game.
Who is Nenio for? Seems everyone hates her
The most annoying homosexual in these garbage threads, froggy.
I like her, she makes demon lords uncomfortable with her dumb bullshit.
I wasn't entirely against her until she turned into the fox thing
smelly fox girl with kink on interracial breeding
'tism appreciators
She's honestly way less horrible than I imagined her to be from her first encounter
Furhomosexuals and low IQ redditors with a terrible sense of humor
To tease you about the fact they'll never let you fill her autistic womb with your mighty mythic seed
seed in for mommy areelu
She's worth it for her ability to derail grimdark, eldritch shit heads with her overwhelming autism.
She exists to make every other companion more endearing through relativity. She does this job pretty well too.
She exists because Owlcat thought it would be funny to add le quirky scentist as a companion
It wasn't
Is wotr less annoying than kingmaker or more? Just beat kingmaker and I thought about dropping the game several times.
It depends on what you find annoying. If it's the town management and time limits, yeah, those are gone, replaced by a HoMM lite game you could automate if you really hated it. If you didn't like the combat, then no, it's the same shit with an extra layer of shit on top.
Kingdom was ok since you can set it to effortless and immortal. Time limits were generous. I liked the combat nothing beats sound of exploding enemies but some of the encounters are basically a slap in the face. Game is riddled with enemies which drain stats some of them which you cannot counter. It wasn't hard it was annoying. Loading times didn't help even with ssd.
Just use death ward
>ame is riddled with enemies which drain stats some of them which you cannot counter. It wasn't hard it was annoying
There is a counter for pretty much all the mechanics in the game to some degree, in this case it's Death Ward. WOTR has even more bullshit but in exchange you get a ton of bullshit too to compensate, in this case shit like 24 hour buffs. Which is what I'd recommend getting on every major buffer, and also a mod to automate buffing because you'd go insane otherwise.
>Dwarf has a hot demon wife simping for him
IT'S NOT FAIR
She's actually a lesbian
became Demon lord and a cute hag like Vellexia would spiel her beans near you
she's manipulating him anon
Wizard or Sorc for EK build? Does it matter?
I turned the shitty HOMM minigame to easy mode
>not enjoying both bg3 and pf
>and rogue trader soon
homosexuals, the lot of you
Life is too short to play bad games and I'm tired of people dishonestly pushing really bad ones like PF. I hope rogue trader will be good but I know it won't be, so this time I'll be pirating. I shan't be ripped off again.
Why can't you romance Ember?
Isn't she like 100 years in Elven years
And that's underage in human years, above all else however, she's moronic
>above all else however, she's moronic
so is Arue, Galfrey and Wenduag though
>No mention of his moronic serial killer waifu who comes up with the most stupid lie ever to justify her killings and chimps out and tries to kill you if you spare her and tell her not to kill people anymore
lmao
Cam is moronic too yes
And so are you anon
What does Arueshalae do that's moronic like everything Galfrey does or Wenduag being a moron that betrays you for a shitter like Savamelekh?
Arueshalae just behaves like a moron generally even though she's been observing mortals for 100 years and comes from a race of beings able to blend in relatively easily
You didn't answer my question
>about to start Kingmaker
>cant decide what class for 2 days now
HELP
mutation warrior
Just refund it and play something else.
Cope
Does it even matter?
You'll take moronic dips anyway
Reminder that if you dip vivi or monk you didn't beat the game
divination wizard with DC spells. true king is smart
what is DC?
the problem i have with this is i never played dnD so i feel like if i go multi class i will frick up my char
Also thinking about sorc because i want charisma and persuasion
You only need 1 level of scaled fist for the passives, then you can do whatever
Difficulty class of your spells, the higher the better
difficulty class, think of it as an indicator of how powerful your spells that need save rolls are
Sorcerer is good since it gets grease and stinking cloud, the two best spells in the game
1 scaled fist, 19 hospitalier, become invincible
the game will never respect your time so no need for you to respect the game
Aldori Fighter/Scaled Fist Monk/ Ranger/ Aldori Swordlord
sword saint dipped into scaled fist. You have more AC than full metal plate tower shield specialist and hit like a truck.
Go defend of true world druid and then be disappointed when you turn out to be the most useless member of the team
Why is the combat system so fricking reliant on buffs
Mythic campaigns are like this, even Kingmaker had a massive reliance on this.
Because you are facing bullshit strong homosexuals from whatever the demon realm was called. It's not Kingmaker where you could basically finish unfair with barely any buffs other than protection from poison and brapclouds.
>It's not Kingmaker where you could basically finish unfair with barely any buffs other than protection from poison and brapclouds
???? You still needed to buff in Kingmaker
You were mostly fine with basic buffs because nothing could reasonably stand against a conjuration caster with a stinky cloud. That shit won't fly in Wrath. Well, maybe it will with the new poison mythic feat, it really depends if they coded delay poison properly or not
You know brap cloud doesn't poison enemies to death right? You still have to hit them
Sure, but you have all the time in the world to kill them if they can't do shit
Honestly the buffbot mod is almost a soft requirement for late game otherwise you'll spend more time prebuffing than actually fighting.
because it's a game for adults.
turn based combat is just clicking same stuff every time 0 strategy
act 4 was the best, rest sucked
picking lann and going back to curb stomp wenduags b***h ass was great
>min/max munchkin ridden fanbase of a TTRPG to base it on
>devs are munchkins so even the most basic of difficulties requires committing to a build and strips away the freedom to 'make' a character
>writing is dogshit, companions are a mixed bag of day old shit with some great standouts (Regill/Jubilost)
>Mythic paths are either too late in the game to access to be fun, hidden away behind specific triggers, or interact with the plot too lightly
>Bosses in the game outright ignore game rules in order to avoid being oneshot by sweaty redditors with youtube-video builds
>romances are written by a team who are autistic virgins resulting in them either being completely shit or barely passable
>like with Kingmaker they've abandoned romances people wanted (Amiri/Arushaelae) for hotfixes on minor things instead, citing dev time or other lies
>despite this Owlshitter will point at BG3 and complain that it's a troony game and shit despite the devs actually giving a shit and not making excuses for why they cut content
The fact that GW is going to let Owlshit frick up the 40k universe next gives me no hope for the franchise.
>mentions bg3 out of nowhere
And? Right now WotR has no real direct competitors in that ttrpg game market. The closest competitor I could give WotR is like.. Mechanicus I guess?
Aru's romance was fricked and half-baked, Owlshit "ran out of time" or whatever and didn't finish it like they wanted to aka they abandoned it. Amiri's was planned, but they abandoned it with the lie that Paizo told them no, until the actual Paizo writer for Amiri came out and said Owlcat never approached them and that Paizo and the writer themself would've approved it because Kingmaker isn't fricking canon to the setting. So they abandoned the Amiri romance with a lie, and abandoned the Aru content with just lazyness.
>Owlshit "ran out of time" or whatever and didn't finish it like they wanted to aka they abandoned it
Stop making shit up, all they mentioned was her ending
Oh so it was intentional? Yeah Owlcat can just go under then and die in a fire. Their obsession with taking something that could be good and making it into a nothingburger is hilarious. "Oh but Aru is a succubus! She can't have a normal life!" Then don't make her an option or even a character at all, the Desna bullshit is about as fanfiction as possible.
BG3 is a competitor, I was referencing the fact that outside of BG3 there isn't much other competition to compare it too. Bad wording on my part.
That's why I said I guess moron.
>Oh so it was intentional
No, it wasn't, they still gave a lazy excuse as for why they didn't fix it. But that's not my point, why the frick are you comparing something as minor as a shitty ending slide with Amiri outright not having a romance?
Is this really salt over not getting a more elaborate ending slide? You can literally edit it yourself
An ending slide can completely ruin the entire thing, which isn't the case here, but still
No, just lack of budget (laziness)
>Right now WotR has no real direct competitors in that ttrpg game market
Why would BG3 not be a competitor?
>Mechanicus
??
thats like totally different genre, mechanicus is closer to nuXcom than rpg
>Release absolute KINO first game
>Perfect balance of hero's journey where he rises from shitter to literal Emperor
>Game is huge success in the scene
>Haha lets release marvel/anime superhero shit, its going to be wicked sick
>with this unlimited budget, hype and resources we have accumulated and engine we have perfected working with
>we will be cutting this, and this, and that, and maybe finish this later and don't worry about this part just skip it and fill in the blanks with a hand wave
>whoa okay, that's done, buy dlc pass and wait for next game guys 😉
It's insane how much money Kingmaker made and how badly WotR came out, it's actually sickening.
WotR is the better game, sorry
>>like with Kingmaker they've abandoned romances people wanted (Amiri/Arushaelae)
But Arueshalae does have a romance unlike Amiri, what the frick are you talking about schizo
>and not making excuses for why they cut content
They literally did make up excuses though
gw regularly hands out their 40k license like candy anon. your hope was misplaced to begin with.
Is the Echo meant to be a little b***h in lore terms? Literally spends the whole game running away and then is weaker than the weakest generic mobs in Act V. I couldn't really understand given the Hand of the Inheritor's storyline whether he just didn't hold a candle to mythic PC, or whether it's just Owlcat's shitty balancing that makes him laughably easy
Of course not, he's literally Deskari's echo, he's just shit compared to you and Owlcat fricked up and made him the second to last boss
I mean tbf 'echo' is pretty vague, so could imply nowhere near as strong, and rather than being a demigod is just an animated pile of corpse construct really - but I still find it surprising that Owlcat couldn't have buffed him a little - I just did one playthrough on core difficulty and the final act was a colossal difficulty spike to the point where i thought I was going to have to go down a difficulty level. Echo was pretty much a one shot for some reason which made me burst out laughing after every other encounter in the act probably took me more than 10 attempts
He's supposed to be Deskari's Hepzamirah so yeah he's strong, it's just that neither of them hold a candle to you
And yeah it's true taht he was way too weak, for an act 5 encounter, he should have been a boss in the colphyr mines alongside Hepzamirah (or an angel only boss somewhere else)
Yeah he would have been much better as an act 4 boss. The only other unintentionally hilarious moment for me was the first Devastator fight in his lair, everyone basically freaks out when it appears, then it was weak as frick and died before it got close.
Shoutout to Mutasafen as well but his character is kinda goofy in the game anyway so it didn't feel a big surprise when he also was a little b***h
I really don't get why in this game they made him look like a random derakni