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Also, Wenduag is best.
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What do I think of it?
Also, Wenduag is best.
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shes terrible man. yeesh
Yes I also enjoy having obedient minions not moralgayging
Just started this. Is the writing always going to be this terrible?
yes
what exactly is wrong with the writing? did the two lesbians piss you off? if so good riddance
No, it's the combination of the writing and voice acting though. I made it through the caves almost ready to ignore everything.
again, i dont see what is wrong with the writing
the voice acting is great, seelah is meant to sound annoying same with camille
city attacked by demons, so far youve seen nothing to be able to judge the writing
Gaslighting Black person
Kys
i accept your concession anon, it's fine
>again, i dont see what is wrong with the writing
>city attacked by demons
>mary sue dragon just introduced randomly dies in the first cutscene
>exposition dump about demons that you don't care about because there's no buildup to them being a threat
>Meet Camille in the tunnels, as soon as you use her in combat she gives away her entire character twist 2 minutes in
>Seelah is annoying as frick, forced diversity character
>Whenduag gives away her true nature as soon as you talk to her
>Lann talks like a marvel character
The dialogue is shit, the voice acting is AWFUL, the story is bland.
It's horrible. Russians can't make good games.
>>mary sue dragon just introduced randomly dies in the first cutscene
>mary sue
>just dies
?
In the minute of screen time she had they were all like
>ooooh fetch the dragon lady! She'll save you hero! She's the most magical and powerfulest QUEEN in the world! -ACK!
why yes, why is a dragon in the world based on dungeons and DRAGONS powerful? boggles the mind that one
>We can't help you, let's call our leader who is stronger
>" She's the most magical and powerfulest QUEEN in the world!"
How the frick do you people function? And even if the dialogue happened as you present it, which does not, she still cannot be a mary sue. She neither heals you nor protects the city.
>she'll save you "hero"
nowhere in the game are you referred to as a hero lmao
>mary sue dragon
how the frick is she a mary sue? she got killed in one fricking swipe
and yeah she's strong she's a fricking dragon
>exposition dump about demons that you don't care about because there's no buildup to them being a threat
my brother in christ YOU PURCHASED THE GAME CALLED WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS
you're like one of those homosexuals at dnd tables that says "i just dont know why my character would be interested in this"
>>Meet Camille in the tunnels, as soon as you use her in combat she gives away her entire character twist 2 minutes in
oh so you read spoilers online and can't enjoy the game, i get it
>seelah annoying as frick, forced diversity character
she's a paladin that came to join the crusade, this is how she is in the tabletop adventure path
>Whenduag gives away her true nature as soon as you talk to her
yeah she is clearly evil and makes that clear, meant for evil characters
>Lann talks like a marvel character
he doesn't
it's clear you watched a youtube video or read about the game and are now upset about it for no fricking reason
>my brother in christ
I don't worship a schizo israelite on a stick, redditor
>YOU PURCHASED THE GAME CALLED WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS
Doesn't mean I wanted the black paladin to be righteous
>oh so you read spoilers online and can't enjoy the game, i get it
No? When you click on her character in combat she says some sadistic line like "I'm going to cut you up! hahah" and I was like, "oh so she's probably hiding her true personality" and shocker, I was right. Russians can't write, the voice actors are shit. Or maybe I'm just very intelligent
>she's a paladin that came to join the crusade, this is how she is in the tabletop adventure path
But why is she black but talks like an american? With dreadlocks too. Come on. Maybe if she had an African accent and was a warrior from a far away land I could believe it.
>he doesn't
yes he does lol. I used him to climb over the crevasse and he quipped some shit like "You're WELCOME!!! Why do I get no respect around here?"
Look man, I get it. You're Russian (low intelligence, dysgenic polluted genetics, no culture etc), but it was BAD
you said above you just NOW left the caves yet you somehow know camille's true personality without looking it up online or anything?
sounds legit, yeah there are hints about her not being what she is but you clearly looked it up lmao
Dude she literally says unfiltered shit in a sadistic tone in the fricking first combat you get into
Why are you being so defensive over this game? It's dogshit
>"thanks lann, you're so awesome lann"
Yeah that was the line. Marvel as frick.
My ancestors were landed gentry. Russians meanwhile were raped by mongols and chechens
her saying stuff like that at the start gives away the reveal that she is a cannibal that gets turned on by corpses? really? you are telling me you figured that out from the few lines at the start?
she is meant to be suspicious
>Yeah that was the line. Marvel as frick
i dont know, i hate lann and wont defend him but this is clearly made to show how insecure he is
>BUT MY ANCESTORS
top kek, gopniks or mutts, both serve israelites
The prophet Muhammad sucks wiener in Hell.
most probably
>he thinks I'm russhit
lmao, well we white people of european descent get it through procreation, you judeogolems probably from vax
>well we white people of european descent
You're going to have to specify because I'm sure you know that Germans are swarthy non-whites and blonde hair and blue eyes is the product of Asiatic steppe/turkic admixture
that's cool and all but I don't know why you're talking about some asians or turkroaches when I specifically said Europe, must be mutt's education
>Europe
Slavs are not white. Germans are not white. Scandinavians are not white. Southern Italians are not white. Spaniards are not white. Irish and Scots are not white.
So we've got Northern Italian, French and Southern Anglo
If you're French immediately have a nice day
>whites are not whites
nice divide and conquer israelite. too bad nobody gives a frick
lmao
actually believing "we wuz kangs n shit"
so gullible
They decided to use an iconic paladin character for the game, alas it was Seelah
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Seelah
Pathfinder is just not a well written setting really, its a dumb kitchensink and that's the way I like it
the thing is this moron is arguing that the story is shit and he knows everything about it despite just now leaving the caves
so he probably looked up stuff online and got upset like a child
I didn't look up anything holy shit. Go boot the game up, get into combat with Camille and click her a bunch of times and she will say all these lines about killing people and cutting them up.
>you are telling me you figured that out from the few lines at the start?
I didn't know she gets turned on by corpses, but it was clear what kind of trope they were going for. Same with wenduag, I knew she was evil as soon as I met her.
Sorry, maybe I'm too high IQ for this game.
Look, I was really looking forward to playing this game. I went in fresh despite not even knowing how to build my alchemist properly.
The game was dogshit. That's not my problem.
How do you think you get your genetics, vatnik? Death to Russia.
yes, camille is meant to be moronic and suspicious, but you didnt get the real reveal and cuz of your complaining i spoiled it for you
>i'm too high IQ for this game
kek
>yes, camille is meant to be moronic and suspicious, but you didnt get the real reveal
But I got it enough to know that she was a) hiding her sadistic personality and b) likely going to be evil later on . Have you ever spoken to a woman like that in real life? I'm damn good at telling who is hiding their personality.
So I was right. You didn't spoil anything for me, I'm never going to play the game again. I didn't even get to the reddit foxgirl thank god.
don't let the door hit you on your way out anon
I won't. Honestly it's embarrassing how defensive you are over a shit AA marvel slopfest made by Russians with awful combat.
Just play Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire instead.
surely you will tell us how deadfire's writing is much better now that you namedropped it
i played both pillars of eternity and enjoyed them, you sound like a moronic fanboy that cant enjoy more than one franchise
The majority opinion is that WoTR has bad writing, bad voice acting and bad combat. I enjoy CRPGs, I loved the Dragonfall trilogy, but this game was just bad. It was bad. Kingmaker was bad. This was worse.
being this autistically defensive over a game with really bad characterisation is not something to be proud of. If I can see a major character twist 2 minutes into the game that is bad writing.
wotr is a straight upgrade over kingmaker, the mythic classes alone carry the shit out of wotr
is this majority opinion in the room with us right now
>The majority opinion
camilia's deal was obvious, especially with the amulet that hides her alignment *wink*
however she has the best romance
>You're WELCOME!!! Why do I get no respect around here?"
"thanks lann, you're so awesome lann"
he's self conscious and awkward, he didn't say what you posted
i am not russian either, infact slava ukraine and frick russians for all i care
i am defending a game i like, much like you are randomly attacking it
>mutt telling someone about low intelligence, polluted genetics or lack of culture
lol
lmao
>I don't worship a schizo israelite on a stick, redditor
frick's sake, THIS is what you get hung up on you underage fedora frick?
>Doesn't mean I wanted the black paladin to be righteous
nobody cares what you want a character to be. this is what they're like. you can either move along or replace her with regill or ulbrig when you meet them
>No? When you click on her character in combat she says some sadistic line like "I'm going to cut you up! hahah" and I was like, "oh so she's probably hiding her true personality" and shocker, I was right. Russians can't write, the voice actors are shit. Or maybe I'm just very intelligent
it literally isn't a secret. you can confront her about it in the tavern, and she'll make some half-assed excuse. you can't hang her just because she sounds unhinged, if that's what you want.
>But why is she black but talks like an american? With dreadlocks too. Come on. Maybe if she had an African accent and was a warrior from a far away land I could believe it.
path of least resistance, probably. or the same reason why a half-orc got to be a high ranking military woman when everyone hates her kind
>yes he does lol. I used him to climb over the crevasse and he quipped some shit like "You're WELCOME!!! Why do I get no respect around here?"
Lann is a 20-something sperg who only spoke to one woman in his life and uses "humor" as a defense mechanism. multiple characters point this out,along with how miserable he actually seems. it's not the most original writing, but it's real and nuanced enough to pass in my book
>or replace her with regill or ulbrig when you meet them
You HAVE to choose between the black kween paladin, the cringe gnome death knight or the blunt dwarf
Not really much of an RPG.
>it literally isn't a secret. you can confront her about it in the tavern, and she'll make some half-assed excuse. you can't hang her just because she sounds unhinged, if that's what you want.
>Lann is a 20-something sperg who only spoke to one woman in his life and uses "humor" as a defense mechanism. multiple characters point this out,along with how miserable he actually seems. it's not the most original writing, but it's real and nuanced enough to pass in my book
Why wasn't there an option for my alchemist to splash hydrochloric acid on their faces or set them on fire? I'd rather play the game without any marvel sidekicks
Kek now I know what /vrpg/ was referring to about the fanbase for this game. Autistic freaks
>nice divide and conquer israelite. too bad nobody gives a frick
Hahahah the swarthoid mutt is upset. If you are not a SOUTHERN ANGLO-SAXON PROTESTANT YOU ARE NOT WHITE
>The majority opinion
Sure you might say it's anecdotal, but everyone I've talked to and all the reviews I have read have said
1. The writing is bad, skipping is fine
2. Play it on mute
>The majority opinion
>You HAVE to choose between the black kween paladin, the cringe gnome death knight or the blunt dwarf
i thought you just now left the caves and didn't even meet nenio
hmm, how come you know all of that?
Because I looked it up after I had uninstalled and refunded. I'm never playing this vatnik slop dogshit ever again, and looking up their stories just proved my decision was righteous (tm)
My swede alarm is going off
No. I want to be able to blow up the archer b***h. I want to be able to kill Camille by pouring acid down her throat. I want to be able to play the game solo. This is hardly an rpg.
then you would've known that you can dismiss any companion and make your own companions as mercenaries
kind of like pillars of eternity has adventurers
Can I do that in the tutorial?
no, but the moment you leave the cave you can do whatever you want
Do those adventurers have dialogue? Am I forced to speak to the companions afterwards? How much content will I miss out on by not using them?
You can do that in most RPGs and CRPGs. I could kill companions in Shadowrun Hong Kong or tell them to frick off. If I was in that world, and If I really had control. I would've told Camille to frick off and never come near me again after I heard that dialogue. I would've killed her if she approached me again, since it was easy to tell how dangerous she was. I would've left the crippled archer woman behind, I would've told the black paladin to shut the frick up and follow in silence and I would've killed Lann and Whenduag
but I was forced to take all of these losers along with me. yes it is railroading.
>Do those adventurers have dialogue? Am I forced to speak to the companions afterwards? How much content will I miss out on by not using them?
you can give them voices, but yes you miss out on all the companion quests and their personality
there is a mythic path where you become a swarm of bugs that eats everyone and are left alone
>You can do that in most RPGs and CRPGs. I could kill companions in Shadowrun Hong Kong or tell them to frick off. If I was in that world, and If I really had control. I would've told Camille to frick off and never come near me again after I heard that dialogue. I would've killed her if she approached me again, since it was easy to tell how dangerous she was. I would've left the crippled archer woman behind, I would've told the black paladin to shut the frick up and follow in silence and I would've killed Lann and Whenduag
you can kill lann and wenduag when you meet them
i am sorry that the game is not fallout new vegas where you can kill everyone level 1, not every game needs to be that way
the game needs characters for the story, you can kill irabeth and anevia later
you can kill camille and seelah later
but for now finish the damn tutorial you autistic frick and stop reddit spacing
>but for now finish the damn tutorial
Nah the combat and camera control was awful and I hear the game has a really weak 3rd act. Not playing it.
fine then why are you complaining? is someone holding your mother hostage forcing you to play?
No, all I said was that the game was awful and I had 7 troons jump down my throat for my justification
much like you are allowed to blindly hate a game people are allowed to defend things they like
now take what is left of your dignity and go somewhere else
But how could you like this game that much? It's a 6.5/10 at best. Pre-buffing before every fight is asinine.
i love the autism building, i love the roleplaying aspect of the mythic paths and i love making up moronic builds and backstories for my character and watching the whole story change around it
it does a good job at allowing you to be a full demon, a lich or even an angel and the systems are so close to the pen and paper experience that i find myself lost in it
But why not just do that in a game with an actually good story and combat? What's the point of autistic buildcrafting when the gameplay is awful?
Also it's not as great as you think. I built my character to be a human diplomat and I had zero opportunity to use any of my skills in the tutorial. My character had no knowledge of the events despite being a world traveled expert in history.
And what if I don't want to be a lich or an angel because I'm not 13? Is there a mythic path to being a politician?
why do you think being intentionally moronic proves anything at all?
So it's intentionally moronic to make a diplomat? So much for buildcrafting. My character gets dropped in a city, doesn't know where he is (despite having world knowledge 9) and who these people are, if the woman is really a dragon and who the demons are
Yes, it is. The game literally starts with a huge frickyou demon from hell carving a massive chasm right through the city with his magical scythe. you gonna talk him down?
No, but my guy should've known who he was, and there was no option for my guy to tell a guard that I am an important person who requires protection
>demon devil lich swarm, azata angel gold dragon, aeon trickster and finally legend
This is all kiddie shit. I want to be a diplomat, a master strategist. Pulling the strings of royalty. Not turning into a swarm or an azata angel. Like really, is there no option to be a normal fricking person who is just really skilled at his job?
Because I didn't know it was about demons. I went in completely blind. I was taken aback by how bad the intro was and quit. Thankfully I won the game from someone on Ganker and didn't spend a cent on it.
Good story tho
maybe, i dropped the game half-way through because of the garbage combat.
i'd rather open a book than subject myself to 1998 crpg gameplay
of course not. this is a video game. you can't just make a story and have the video game just play along with your head. stop pretending to be moronic.
> you can't just make a story and have the video game
The fact that the devs didn't even think that maybe people wouldn't want to play as a 13 year old's fantasy about liches and angels and maybe there might be someone who wants to play a down to earth character heavily invested in politics, commerce and empire just goes to show how bad the RPG is.
Oh so it's based on ripoff DnD? No wonder it was so shit
>the game called pathfinder : wrath of the righteous is based on pathfinder : wrath of the righteous
i was boggled same as you when i realized that, game ruining
Why would you expect someone to know the game was based on some shitty jankslop IP that only poverty-stricken Eastern Europeans know about?
It was made by Russians, that's an immediate red flag if its coming from people without a shred of humanity
are you serious? pathfinder has outsold dnd multiple times
lmao
Maybe in Poland. I've never heard of it
then you never played tabletops before and are probably underage
>poland
no, it outsold dnd globally
Or maybe I'm an adult who doesn't waste his time playing with plastic figurines and larping as a lich
ah you are underage, got it
Okay bros
Have fun with your eurojank slop. You'll never amount to anything in life.
that's the plan, yes
good. go do adult things, like changing the oil on your car or doing the dishes or whatever, and leave us manchildren alone with our toys.
>look at me i'm so mature
what exactly are you expecting from a fantasy rpg?
A fantasy RPG where I can forgo all of the fantasy and play as a diplomat.
why do you think feigning ignorance helps your case?
bro you're still doing it. pretending to be a complete fricking idiot doesn't help your case in any way. almost makes me think you're not actually pretending.
>This is all kiddie shit. I want to be a diplomat, a master strategist. Pulling the strings of royalty. Not turning into a swarm or an azata angel. Like really, is there no option to be a normal fricking person who is just really skilled at his job?
your power is forced on you at the start, you get many choices with it and how to use it
you can get rid of it completely later, but your mythic power is inflicted on you
>i didnt know it was about demons
well that is the game really, it's based on the wrath of the righteous book
see
the image describes you so well
yeah, wotr has tons of combat, if you want 0 combat try disco elysium or tides of numenera
Not that anon, what CRPG would you say offers 'actually good story and combat'?
Shadowrun Hong Kong, Deadfire, Planescape torment
>planescape torment
>good combat
please tell me you're joking
>Shadowrun Hong Kong
Gameplay aside, different type of setting; like that anon said if he wants to be a lich caster, I can understand playing Baldur's Gate instead, where you can also do that
>Deadfire
I don't know, a lot of people hate the setting, it's better than the first but it can be very polarizing like WOTR. And while Planescape is more often presented as good writing,
>Planescape
>Good combat
In short, I don't think there's a catch-all for CRPGS. Even if you prefer Deadfire, Underrail... WoTR does some things better, or at least different (like builds) and appeal to different tastes
while it's not fallout new vegas level speech you can change so many things having a high speech and knowledge skill, it gets brought up later
at the start the game is just briefing you on the story as much as it can, your world knowledge can be used to help anevia at the start or extort her for money with speech
>And what if I don't want to be a lich or an angel because I'm not 13?
you can refuse your power and become a mortal legend instead, there are 10 mythic paths
demon devil lich swarm, azata angel gold dragon, aeon trickster and finally legend
also why are you playing a game that is meant to be over the top demon invasion and being mad? it's like playing warhammer and thinking it's too over the top
if you want a more down to earth adventure there is pillars of eternity, or kingmaker
>didnt play the game
>post to shit on it
Never change Ganker
>playing larian games
>ever
sorry I don't want aids
>playing Baldur's Gate
>Simping for pixels
Wrists.
>you can kill lann and wenduag when you meet them
No you literally can't you moron, the entire story revolved around one of them going with you through the maze and Wendog's betrayal being revealed, if you try to kill them it simply doesn't work
>You can do that in most RPGs and CRPGs
You can't, name 10 with a party system that do this
next time, just stick to a story bro. also one more for the road:
>The majority opinion
>game start
>i roll to kill and rape everyone
>dm won't allow me
>fricking railroading amirite
you sound unhinged
WAAAH I WANT TO KILL EVERYONE I MEET AND PLAY SOLO! WAAAAAAAAAAH
finish the tutorial then get rid everyone you want, noone is forcing you to take anyone you moronic homosexual
>IF IF IF
I already know you're judeomutt and all you can do is guess what shade of white european I'am because even if I was the niggest southest italian you've ever seen it would still be roughly 80% more white and less dysgenic than you covid experiments lmao
>Why wasn't there an option for my alchemist to splash hydrochloric acid on their faces or set them on fire? I'd rather play the game without any marvel sidekicks
the nano second you meet wenduag and lann you have an option to kill them both
everyone sounding like californians does suck
>mary sue dragon just introduced randomly dies in the first cutscene
Can't be mary sue if she dies at the start
>exposition dump about demons that you don't care about because there's no buildup to them being a threat
Dunno why demons wouldn't be considered a threat during their invasion, but yeah dump is clunky especially since they have an inbuilt way of doing it with that text thing
>Meet Camille in the tunnels, as soon as you use her in combat she gives away her entire character twist 2 minutes in
I never really cared for her truth be told
>Seelah is annoying as frick, forced diversity character
Well its a demon invasion story so makes sense they would use "iconic" paladin from the ttrpg, Seelah is that just like Amiri was that in the last game
>Whenduag gives away her true nature as soon as you talk to her
Yeah she ain't slick
>Lann talks like a marvel character
Man's bad at talking, I can forgive a cavedweller for that
i dont get the "dump" part
like you are the one asking questions, noone is forcing anything on you
Remember it's based on a tabletop campaign, the dragon shit is way cooler as a tone setter when it happens during what's essentially gameplay rather than a dumb cutscene.
that was more or less my take on it
as the game goes on, you just get more of it.
bad writing
awful storytelling
forced diversity
shallow characters
horrendous plot
but don't you dare complain about any of it or you won't hear the end of it from the three people who still play this game and post on Ganker
>again, i dont see what is wrong with the writing
>the voice acting is great,
moron ALERT
>not everyone here is loyal to mendev, traitor
>when you betrayed the crusade you betrayed all mortal kind, and for that you must pay
>not good voice acting
DIE
>text
>voice acting
moron ALERT
huh? that part is fully voice acted
I thought the writing was really good, but the voice acting is budget anime dub.
Do yourself a favor, set voice volume to 0% and just read the text, the game gets far more enjoyable that way.
regill, daeran and areelu make up for the other subpar voice actors
Dude, your fujobait husbando sounds fricking terrible, like he's about to cry when he should be acting smug, I don't care how much you jack off to his voice
Yes. It was so bad I quit in the caves. Couldn't stand it.
Yes.
Its expected from Owlcat.
nothing is more kino than cucking Reg to death
I began playing it recently, its pretty atrocious so far. Combat is pretty meh too. This is the game Ganker told me was better than bg3 top kek
it's just the fanboys trying fiercely to compare the game to bg3. it's not in the same league
Almost every single char in that game sucks. They suck to such degree I can't even gather strength to hate them, just annoyed apathy every time they open their stupid mouths. There are maybe 1 or 2 that are somewhat bearable, but being surrounded by dickwads doing gay dickwad things all day really wears my patience thin, making me hate even those few okayish ones.
At least I think you can kill most of them in the evil paths. I'll check if I ever feel like I can withstand again the torture of campaign mode.
It only gets worse.
play kingmaker instead
>play the game with the same writers instead
meme answer
i was just giving my wenduag her first throwing axe, level 7 i am gonna give her two handed fighting and her second axe
never done this before, i am enjoying my ebul playthrough (will go lich)
She's super strong with dual throwing axes
>What do I think of it?
Kitsune wife
nenio is nothing
Really weird that they felt the need to force in that shitty HOMM minigame
Russians love be that shit, they just couldn't help it.
Lost interest when I learned that wenduag is a prostitute. Western games can't provided monster girls
wouldnt you be a prostitute too if you knew your life expectancy is like 21 years?
We're on Ganker and I'm crying about pixel not being pure and virgin. No, I would die alone.
I don't know, I just like her. When she's said that she turn the other cave dweller into a man I just brush it off as something none sex related but I couldn't I hide from the truth much longer
She is the most cave dwelling troglodyte of cave dwelling troglodytes, the frick did you expect?
>evil characters have the highest body count
Kind of based
Don't worry bro, you can always got for Arue
>sentient onahole made of congealed worms
fulsome queen, my love
>sentient
now now let's not exaggerate
>Arue's pristine cleansed elysium pussy
>congealed worms
That's more fitting for the corpse fricker or the literal mongrel that lived in caves
she is literally made up of worms like all demons, would pair well with swarm
>He's so desperate this is what he has to come up with
lol
lmao
Petitioners are souls and those souls fuse each other until turning themselves into something completely different
soul worms yes
Suitably congealed soul worms are indistinguishable from human pussy.
you can keep the bug meat, have fun
Thanks bro, I will.
Fool, everybody pairs well with the Swarm.
>tfw no ember romance
>nothing good for you white man
You get to devour her. That's as close as you're going to get.
have a nice day.
Western games always frick it up with the used goods thing. I think BG3 is the only recent one with actual female virgins at least some of them are.
Who?
>Astarion
Literally thousands
>Gale
Fricked at least once
>Karlach
Very crass, probably have fricked
>Lae'zel
Casual sex
>Shart
Sharr's education
>Wyll
Could be but he sometimes flirts with other companions
Karlach calls you a degenerate for asking her to join in a incest threesome and can't imagine it. Lae'zel outright says she doesn't like sharing you or being shared herself. Others are whatever but Shart straight up is the only female companion to accept incest with the drows prostitutes.
I agree that Karlach and Lae'zel are the least degenerate but they're both non-virgins regardless.
Wenduag literally only ever fricked Lann when they were younger, that's it, she talks big game but she never actually gets laid outside of the commander.
In act 4 she lies and says she fricked an Incubus but you can follow her and spy on what she's actually doing.
In act 3 if you ask her she explained that she got fricked by every chieftain in the underworld
How is she so ugly?
>How can it be that the flesh eating, murdering, snivelling, underground cave person is also a bawd? Why isn't this like anime?
sort of woke but you can go swarm and make everyone broke
Reject your mother, become legend!
I pity the anon that doesn't finish her true love route. You take this fierce masochistic sub of a spider woman, make her your b***h then have her open up to you emotionally. I'm just depressed I can't do it with my favorite playthrough of pure lich.
lich being an incel is both funny and sad
i hate it, but it's also fitting
Shut up anon, it's not worth it. I can't like her
I thought Russians were supposed to be good at writing, this is just gay slop.
>I thought Russians were supposed to be good at writing
Why would you think that?
Don't say Dostoevsky, why would you think their videogames have good writing?
Some of the greatest works of writing are Russian. Show some fricking respect.
Yes, but how does that lead to good videogame writing? I do not think US videogames have good writing because of Mark Twain
You're probably a brown person, this conversation is over.
An easier question is what are the games with good writing?
none, cuz no matter how good a story is some frickwad here will say it's shit
Pathologic?
>RT not even out
>threads already full of ESL schizos
I shudder at the idea of what's going to happen once the game is out.
Gonna complain game isn't grimdark enough probably and that Imperium is now woke
The combat is arse, the balance falls off a cliff in midgame
discount HOMM and act 4's gimmick actively made the game worse
7/10
For the love of all that's holy JUST POST CUTE PICTURES OF MY SPIDER WIFE
Her being a prostitute doesn't bother you?
is there a single female character in the entire game who is not a prostitute?
>necromancer
>not Acid Alchemist or Rogue Underground Chemist
seelah i guess
truth of the matter is a woman who is not a prostitute would not be interested in romancing your character in the first place cuz you barely know each other
eh, the plot takes course over several weeks if not months, some of the romances have you actively go on dates like camellia
"dates"
the 6 months time skip is not felt by your character tho
the part where you bone her in a church her is totally a date
True but it just makes them all unlovable
Cam
Prophet Muhammad is my husbando necromancer.
>wyrd reconstruction
this, she's a tard that is only surviving cuz of her father
if you cant tell she is evil you are a tard, however how exactly is she evil is only revealed later and was well done
the brothel scene had me laughing
>I'm playing this right now.
>What do I think of it?
>Also, Wenduag is best.
I have no idea bro, I cant read your mind.
Wenduag best gurl.
i actually liked camille my first playthrough and always thought something was up while playing and how she bites her lips constantly kek
it's so sad that this creatura here ruined it for himself by looking up the plot
Why didn't anyone warn me about how long these games are? 180 hours for a single playthrough of Kingmaker is too fricking long, how am I going to try other builds and playstyles if there isn't a respec option and every playthrough lasts 200 hours?
Game is a lot faster once you know what to do and have done all the RP stuff.
>no respec option
Yes there is.
5/10 bait
>Game is a lot faster once you know what to do
The game has been smooth sailing after a few hours in when I realized that I should prebuff. Don't even need to load back and retry most fights. Yet I'm 140 hours in and I still have a couple acts left which I don't see myself finishing.
>Yes there is.
Never found it then, maybe it's disabled for any difficulty over normal?
what the frick are you doing to be taking 180 hours in kingmaker?
i played kingmaker like an absolute moron new to the pathfinder system (two handed fighter with fricking shield focus, dont ask) and i beat the game in 80 hours
wrath is even shorter
this is terrible bait
>what the frick are you doing to be taking 180 hours in kingmaker?
Playing the game normally, exploring the map during the downtime of the story, doing side quests I stumble upon. I'm not even going for the completionism autism, I missed a companion and his questline as well.
Wenduag isn't just a bad character, she's one of the worst characters ever made.
>baby-eating edgelord
>has taken thousands of miles of dick
>if you keep her, she's only there because she hates and fears you
>if you kick her, she pops out of the bushes, proclaims that she has spent her entire life training to defeat you, but is level 4 despite you being level 20
>her stat spread is awful and so is her level 1 choices
If you really just want a spiderwaifu, get a portrait of your own spiderwaifu and make a custom character by hiring a mercenary. Just use your imagination for how she is or open up an AI chat and talk to her there, or just pretend she doesn't have a personality. It is a dramatic improvement over Wenduag.
>what the frick are you doing to be taking 180 hours in kingmaker?
160 hours of that is spent on load screens in the late game despite having a 5gb/s m.2 because the game repeatedly parses every item that ever spawned with no way to stop that other than installing a modkit that lets you manually destroy items from existence.
Owlcat is the rare meeting of a technological sinkhole and a writing pothole.
>baby-eating edgelord
>has taken thousands of miles of dick
That's Arue
>if you keep her, she's only there because she hates and fears you
Only if you do her companion questline the wrong way (ie by being a b***h)
>if you kick her, she pops out of the bushes, proclaims that she has spent her entire life training to defeat you, but is level 4 despite you being level 20
Yes she is kind of moronic if you couldn't tell
>her stat spread is awful and so is her level 1 choices
She's arguably the best character for early game unfair, she is unmatched until the spellcasters get their build going
>Arue
>Early game
isn't she act 2 lmao
I'm talking about Wenduag
>Has taken thousands of miles of dick of all sizes
>Is still purer than the spider mutt
Can't make this shit up
Wenduag was literally Hosilla and her servant's cumdump, other girls taking one gorillion wieners won't erase that.
I came from BG3 and even though it tries to be deeper:
>human enemies walk headfirst into grease and trip
>no environment interactions
>all weapons feel the same
the AI does that in every CRPG on the market
yeah frick you and your moronic BG3 garbage with grease catching on fire for some reason
weapons have different stats range and shit and some weapons even have unique feats but yes most weapons are similar
Enemies in BG3 actively avoid aoe stuff if they can unless it's undead or other dumb shit.
>hating on an objectively good mechanic
Oh you just like slop, got it.
>enemies in bg3 avoid AOE
not at all, i played bg3 a few weeks ago and enemies jumped on my grease constantly
You sure? I fought some Githyankis and they avoid frozen ground if they're not already in there or if I'm not already in there.
yeah im sure, also seen them do other questionable things besides getting stuck and looping they would sometimes mark someone then attack someone else
I've seen the AI do something moronic like that but they generally avoid AOE or difficult terrains from my experience.
the real intricacies of wrath come in the mid to late game and, more importantly... the actual builds and difficulty. Tactician mode was a joke for me on BG3. Pathfinder require an autistic level of understanding to do unfair difficulty.
To be fair it's mostly just looking up a build that doesn't suck and using the autobuff mod. I thought BG3 was harder/more tactical whatever you wanna call it.
Honestly, if you understand 5e classes, you can steamroll all tactician content with any class or sub class. Those online builds only work for extremely meta classes, a lot of classes don't have guides in pathfinder for unfair mode.
I mean it's pretty simple. Martials take outflank, tanks take archmage armour, etc. It's less about builds and more about specific overpowered picks. And of course having and stacking every single buff on your party.
I think BG3, and I suppose 5e in general though I have no experience with it, sidesteps this wonderfully. There are fewer overpowered must-haves, and more fun/creative ways to approach fights.
everything in 5e is so boring and samey
i hate it with a passion
I think 3e/PF1e has it much worse. Everyone is has a million spells and the same set of overpowered feats.
i get where you are coming from, but 3.5 is my favorite and sadly barely any games use it
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I played it with my bros back when I was a teenager. Good memories and fun shit, for sure, I just think it ends to up too bloated. 5e is so elegant in comparison, but I never really played it so I admit I do not know its weaknesses.
honestly if anyone else said that i'd say they're baiting but you seem like you genuinely like 5e
i almost envy you, i wish i could enjoy it
Might just be the novelty, to be honest.
>no environment interactions
man, frick your shitty game design where you need explosive barrels everywhere or surfaces that burst into flames at the smallest spark. this shit always takes me out of the game because devs want me to solve their shitty puzzle on top of the combat
yes, you can still summon poison clouds and slippery surfaces, but they won't fit in your goyslop wannabe immsim design
You don't have to, even on tactician but the option being there is nice.
If you get Lann or Wendu on act 5, it's mostly for flavor as in, you won't be able to get them "good" endings since they won't have quests, right?
yes, wenduag always gets killed i think if you do it that way and lann just gets a bad ending/refuses to ascend
I got to the demon city and lost interest. Anyone else? That part of the game filtered me hard.
yeah most people reroll there, and i understand why but if you know where to go it stops being that much of a filter
i get you tho, the story loses so much steam there
in the tabletop it is simply said that the "adventurers head into the abyss to stop the nahyndrian crystals" and owlcat didnt do a good job integrating that in
I expected to hate it on my 2nd playthrough but it wasn't too bad. I hate the camera gimmick but the quests themselves can be done pretty fast once you know what to do in each zone. Ends up being faster with no overworld travel / resting as often / crusade shit. Act 5 on the other hand is where I stopped, because of the whole redoing the crusade shit, plus all your companions have quests unlike just a few on act 4, and some of them so shit (like Nenio's) that I just don't feel like it.
i actually enjoyed it on my second walkthrough. the atmosphere and writing really sell the abyss, and so does being able to just rampage your way through the streets
playing it as an aeon was amazing
>mfw that was my first run after i redeemed arue
what stung most was that i could see the ending coming based on what my mirror self was showing me
same, i was also romancing arue and felt so bad reading her ending
i laughed so hard at ceasing to exist tho
Does she have anything to say about it beforehand? / Do you tell her what you plan to do?
I know in good paths on Threshold, she comments she's happy to have met you, but sad that it all came about because of all the suffering the worldwound caused.
you can't tell them your plan, cuz you yourself don't know your plan till a portal appears before you that gets you to do it
you can leave her with her memory of you, which changes her ending a lot
some of those endings are pure sadness
>still no cute wenduag or arue pics
>just autists spazzing out
bad thread
So much waisted potential
make sure she respects you
you need to dominate her
>walk into the third crusade
>try to talk to the muslims in jerusalem
>get shot by an arrow and die
>fricking railroading
is wenduag bi like daeran? i never knew
Funny. On the other side:
>"IT'S HECKIN RTWP KINO"
>"DUDE THREE HUNDRED BAZILLION BUILDS*"
>*(3/4 classes are completely useless if not outright borked and only exist as padding, same for feats)
>"IT'S JUST LIKE LE OLDE TYMES"
>tfw
ive yet to see a class be useless in the game and ive tried so many moronic combinations
Why does defender of the true world druid exist? Why would anyone pick anything but demonslayer for ranger? Why do paladin archetypes exist when the base version is always better at literally everything?
Just shut the frick up, most classes exist to pad the numbers and create illusion of choice where there's none.
>ah yes you see, the existence of a meta build invalidates everything else in the game! this is why all the builds in elden ring are useless cuz x is the meta build!
have a nice day
Your comparison with elden ring would've been valid if it weren't for one "little" detail - everything in wotr plays the exact fricking same, differences most archetypes provide are passive.
that doesn't invalidate other archetypes, it just means that meta exists in the game like any game in the world
and like said above, that class exists cuz of kingmaker that pisses you off so much
https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Defender_of_the_True_World
>that doesn't invalidate other archetypes
Yes, it does. Why would you pick an inferior option when it plays the exact same way but less effective?
In elden ring you have complete control over your character, that makes using weapons with different movesets or comboing spells fun, while pathfinder gameplay is that of an autobattler.
why would you do anything? it's for fun and roleplaying
you are a meta gay that is upset that meta exists, i don't get your problem
>it's for fun and roleplaying
What roleplaying? The dialogue rarely acknowledges even your base class, for archetypes there's no unique dialogue at all.
the roleplaying happens in your imagination anon, try to use it sometime.
Why imagine when the game could and should do it for me?
choices have to be made at some point in game development
each branch you add means fractured content, content that you're writing each time for a smaller portion of players.
classes, there's what? 15 classes, then add subclasses, lowballing we're looking at 50 different trees, that'd mean each line of dialogue would be read, on average, by 2% of your playerbase.
developers just have to limit the branching, once we have good ai you'll be able to branch as much as you like.
>game is marketed as an RPG
>"just roleplay in your head bro!"
Rather have a game with 4 classes and a bunch of unique interactions for each, than a game with 9000 classes and 2 lines of dialogue for 10 of them.
ok
the game does have class based unique interactions
you're just describing the mythic paths, not the regular classes.
>Rather have a game with 4 classes
Then play something else, that shit is awful.
if you used half the energy you use to grasp at straws ITT you could've made an actual game
there are unique interactions and items for most classes, i am always caught by surprise
like my last playthrough i was an inqusitor and helped another inqusitor and he gave me goggles only inqusitors can use
was cool
still pretending to be moronic i see
>What roleplaying? The dialogue
Ahh so you believe roleplaying begins and ends with dialogue options and flavor text. I see gameplay as part of the roleplay, would my character rush in through the front door or sneak around to the side entrance. Would my character loot the orphanage of all its valuables even if I'd never get caught? Would my character ect ect, you get the picture, is as much part of the roleplay as selecting dialog option 1~5. Changing around your playstyle to fit within the defined role of your character is what I think of as roleplaying and it happens every second of the game, not just dialogue.
>you believe roleplaying begins and ends with dialogue options and flavor text
No, but it should at least begin somewhere.
>would my character rush in through the front door or sneak around to the side entrance
Not a thing in wotr, even there were a lot of places where you could approach from a different angle, there's no difference what direction you're stealthing from.
>Would my character loot the orphanage of all its valuables even if I'd never get caught
Not a thing in wotr.
>Changing around your playstyle
Not a thing in wotr, it's an autobattler.
Okay so just trolling, carry on.
What part of it is trolling?
There are no "side entrances", not that it'd make a lot of difference; there's no stealing mechanic; the gameplay isn't flexible enough to "change your playstyle", at most you'll change what aoe spells you cast depending on enemies' stats.
defender of the true world exists cuz it was a highly requested class in kingmaker and was added to the game by a mod
>Why does defender of the true world druid exist?
because the previous game, kingmaker, had large sections where the primary enemy was fey and why remove class options, just because they're suboptimal?
>most classes exist to pad the numbers and create illusion of choice
If someone wants to challenge themselves by roleplaying a suboptimal class that's their prerogative.
>started as a wizard
>felt weak and useless during most fights
>respec into a knife master rogue
>my character is now dealing twice as much damage as anyone else
Guess im just keeping one caster as a grease bot and having everyone else be a martial.
story of every rpg tho, casters are weak and useless early while fighters shine
late game casters nuke entire hordes of enemies while rogues can only kill one at a time
casters become ridiculous especially with mythic levels in angel and lich
>want to cast big flashy damage spells
>essentially gimp myself because boring shit like grease and glitterdust is broken in this game
the youtube channel crpgbro details an azata sorc that casts 4 chain lightnings per turn, if that's more your thing. but yeah casters are for utility.
there is a reason grease is nerfed in most tabletops
I mean the only thing I don't like about this kind of games is that you need a PhD in GDR Classics and D&D rules to enjoy them.
>someone thought it would be a good idea to turn Sheldon Cooper into a party member
and you can't even frick her!
for the next game I want them to include the perfect pure waifu with huge tiddies and then she says "no thanks I'm saving myself for the one."
Owlcat HATES letting you romance your companions
i was mad at first but i get it
she doesnt sound interested in romance at all
Does anyone use her? Literally anyone?
She's the only full arcane caster you get in the game so yes a lot of people use her even if they have to put up with her moronation
I just respec Woljif into wizard
Can you fully respec character without mods?
No, only to down to the level they joined you, that anon is a dirty cheater.
>Ummm akshually only the prologue characters can take full advantage of their stats
No thanks homosexual
No, you have to fix Owlcat's mistake and use the respec mod so that way you won't be forced to use morons like Nenio
I did, she was my utility caster while Ember was my "burn everything" caster.
She's the only full arcane. Plus Scroll Savant in lategame is absolutely fricking busted IF you want it to. Wolfjic is a little b***h who fricks off at the end of Chapter 2 so he can die for all I care.
What does alignment even do in this game?
It seems like I can just pick whatever with no effect on my character
it doesn't do anything, just ignore it
spells and whatnot, and some characters react to it
roleplaying
restricts mythic paths, some alignment specific items, etc
not a big thing
Lol nobody cares Owlcucks you lost, BG3 won.
I'm playing both moron
I need a dating camellia dlc
Having sex with camellia until she orgasms multiple times
Having children with camellia
Going to school counselling with camellia
Building our family estate with camellia
Growing old with canellia
Kissing camellia one last time tbh
Please god
anon and camcam sitting on a tree K-I-S-S-I-N-G
A-ah please don't tell everyone I'm shy!!
>245 posts
>43 IPs
I hate schizos so damn much.
discussions and back and forth
You mean shitposting, back and forth.
Waiting to the Citadel DLC before I start playing. About 3 or 4 months?
the companions suck and most will die during any reasonable playthrough, so a "everyone comes over and has a massive party" dlc sounds like total shit.
>DUDE COMPANIONS LE BAD! EVERYONE THINKS LIKE ME!
cope
The companions are bad, glad we agree. Most people have one or two they like and that's it. Unlike Kingmaker mercs are where it's at in Wrath.
I like all of them except for the two evil c**ts, the boring manlet and the worst character in the history of CRPGs, Nenio
woman tier post
>Unlike Kingmaker
back when Kingmaker came out we had morons like you saying the exact same thing and you'll say it again in RT
It's weird how Owlcat manages to lower the bar so much that their previous characters seem like an improvement.
Anons, since the general is caput, I'm just gonna spill them out here:
I'm going Demon for first time as a wizard. I initially rolled as a conjurer, trying to play my character as a warlock, but then I figured that you can't summon demons via Summon Monster (as opposed to the ttrpg) and also that the path's summon demon powers don't work with Conjuration feats.
So I'm stuck to just one kind of demon for 1 minute, right?
So I rolled an Evoker instead for a mainly BOOM BOOM DIE playthrough...
Another thing is, I strangely see no Aspect of Baphomet for some reason, despite Deskari, Nocticula and Kabriri being included. Weird.
the crpg general is an owlcat colony now
well the pathfinders are better rpgs than larian's games so it's no real surprise.
bg3 is a good game, but it's effectively a revamped divinity original sin; their rpg component is very lightweight, they shine more in the combat and exploration, they have very little replay value.
Why do pathfinder games attract so much animosity from Ganker?
it's popular and fun
Ganker hates those two things
Pathfinder "community" is easily the worst when it comes to rpgs.
OH MY GOD, IM GONNA.......IM GONNA....
I'm DIPPPPIIIIIIIIIIIIING
People who dip don't deserve human rights.
come on bro... just one dip into monk and vivisec....
Crossblooded dip on evoker wizard is too good to pass on
Maybe it's a good thing BG3 level caps at 12.
Prevented the brunt of dipshit minmax metagays
nah, it still has its fair share of dip shit
tell me where the bad dipman touched you
right in my vivisectionist
vivi dip is just dumb, monk and crossblooded are the only sensible dips
why?
it doesn't add much, people only use it as an early powerboost for mutagen and sneak attack but late game it's just a waste. Crossblooded and monk dips always get better as you progress instead
i meant why are monk and crossblooded good, what are you dipping for in particular?
monk gives charisma or wisdom to ac of you're not wearing armor, without upper limit
crossblooded gives you 2 bloodlines so you can select 2 draconic ones that give you each +1 damage for each die rolled using elemental spells, so they get stronger as you get more damage dice by levelling up
at level 20 a 20d6 fire spell means you're getting 40 damage for free, and if it's a ray it get multiplied on crit just like with bolster metamagic, it's nuts
crossblooded gets you a second bloodline which is huge for casters
Monk dip, gets you WIS to AC bonus, Scaled fist archetype gets you CHR to AC bonus, these bonuses are huge for classes that specialize in either wisdom or CHR, its like a +5 to AC for one dip at level 1 and +15 by endgame.
monk dip only makes sense if you're not going to be wearing armor
>vivi dip is just dumb
Viv dip isn't dumb its just trading late game power for early game power, you dip viv for the sneak die and mutegens, can essentially double any martial's early game damage output with the viv dip. The early game is often the most difficult, your classes's true power hasn't "come online" yet and you've got to get ~10 level deep before it really starts to shine, sure you can tough out the early game without the viv dip and you're rewarded for it later by being able to spend that levels on something more productive, but in the end game you're already an unstoppable god the viv dip isn't going to matter.
dipping viv is almost always suboptimal by endgame, but the majority of the game is spent before you're an unstoppable god which is where the viv dip shines.
it's just not very useful, a tank would just dip monk, a damage dealer like slayer would rather dip rowdy
I'm maybe 5 hours into Kingmaker and I got some random event where a bunch of slavers demanded one of my party members, I tried to fight them off but got my ass kicked, reloaded and gave them the barbarian since she's been pretty shit in every fight so far but now I can barely carry all my shit. Can I just go and get her back immediately or am I just going to get my shit kicked in again?
It's easier to fight them when they're camped, yes. Still a relatively tough fight for early on but a grease puddle will solve most problems. The biggest issue is the mages spamming fear, which can be annoying if you flub your saves (and don't have remove fear available).
I tried it, but the intro part filtered me, shit looks so bad
>Wenduag is best
Cuck moment
Had some fun with Pathfinder and tried this after finishing BG. Went back to BG
the game got really shitty and slow when enemies with 50 AC started showing up, having to go trough an actual list of buffs every fight just to be able to hit 40% of the time became very annoying and boring
Otherwise game was good, really disliked the way they did difficulty
can't you just tweak the difficulty as you go.
I wonder if its possible to use A.I voice generation, changing around portraits and editing text files to change characters into waifus. I always felt like Tristian should have been a hot chick. I've seen people make mods for Baldur's Gate 3 that does exactly that.
If you are changing/swapping preexisting assets it should be very doable.
I was trying to make a "funny" Sosiel mod, I gave up halfway because I couldn't get mine to work the way I wanted
Romancetards and coomers are fricking deranged
Depends on your difficulty. The story and character writing are millennial slop with the occasional sprinkling of kino, but the game's balance is embarrassingly bad.
I honestly enjoyed this game more than Baulders Woke Gate 3.
>negative level spells
>if you fail a check the effect is permanent
Frick this. This has to be one of the most unfun mechanics ive ever seen implemented in a game
You can heal it with certain spells but yeah, it's a kind of mechanic that is really fun when you do it to them, and not so much fun when done to you. Kingmaker starts spamming that shit towards the end, even the traps are -LVL bullshit, it's super gay.
both owlcat games are pretty shit
and pozzed
So, GD porn where?
Say no more, recently commissioned pic related.
https://files.catbox.moe/b09iea.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/rjl4xx.jpg
You should comm this guy more
Great artist, I plan to.
what is it about wotr in particular that brings out the schizos spanning shit takes? there are people who didnt even finish the damn prologue and calling the game trash. its not a perfect 10/10 by any means (act 4) but it mogs most other trash games out there
CRPGs in general attract absolute autists, even the people that frequent these threads are braindead
This. CRPGs naturally attract the mentally ill.
What's wrong with act 4?
It was a nice change of pace and some of the most interesting characters are down in the Abyss.
the camera
Not only the camera, but the fricking garbage constant loading screens
People don't use dimension door or similar abilities
>dude you can explore the roof and fight a quasit
Okay how does that fix the shitty camera gimmick
crpg in general has one the most elitist and tribalist fanbase. they will absolutely diss the whole game for not meeting one certain criteria. I suspect years of crpg drought has made them bitter and resentful.
>suspect years of crpg drought has made them bitter and resentful
This, you never see this autism with older CRPGs
lel, try browsing rpgcodex for a change
Every classic rpg hit is "decline"
>there are people who didnt even finish the damn prologue and calling the game trash.
anyone who has spent at two hours on a game should be able to decide if it's trash or not. a new player would probably not be able to beat the prologue in that time.
did you romance the GILF queen
No, I specifically went out of my way to disrespect her and humiliate her at every possible opportunity
how many wieners has Lann taken
He's as straight as the arrows he shoots
so not straight at all
Skill issue
>Also, Wenduag is best
Weird way to spell CamCam
At least Wendog doesn't dump your sorry ass
boring character with boring build
Respec is good as long as you force them to stay with their regular stats.
Nope, I will take Arue's 69 point buy and minmax dex
>Wenduag is best
Patrician choice
>Want to roleplay sissy priest who gets dommed by crazy spider schizo
>Turns out she's a massive sub and wants my meek priest to beat her into submission
She's still cute but its just not the same, lads...
It's funny how this guy has to make her prettier because in game she looks fricking digusting, especially the haircut