Not the least bit hard, I built my first one when i was like 13 years old (15 years ago)
Building newer PCs is even easier, they're just big legos, and things can only fit into a single slot so its obvious where it goes
If you're unsure then read the manuals, or just open youtube and type in "how to install <part X> in computer"
You can watch a video guide and try to build at your own pace. Just be careful to not put any moron strength when placing some components and you should be fine.
Yeah, pretty much this. The only requirement is to be into this. In my opinion, the hardest part of pc building is to find the proper parts to fit your budget.
its not hard, but if something is broken its kinda tricky to tell what part. get some virgin at a store to do it for 30 bucks, you can afford that if you are getting a pc worth buying.
That's what i did, just let someone else who already put together hundreds of custom pc's do it for a few bucks. I'm to scared that i frick something up.
In theory it's easier than legos but in practice you can frick up many things by using too much force, getting dimensions wrong, or just static electricity bricking everything.
>static
Is this a meme or is this actually common?
Just ground yourself before touching electronics. If you feel a zap when touching a metal grounded surface, be extra careful and maybe try to figure out where the static buildup is coming from.
I worked at a computer company in the 2000's. One of my jobs was taking processors out of the shipping box and into individual clamshells to take to the build team.
There were failsafes on failsafes to make sure anyone touching those chips were grounded because even a tiny zap you can't feel will ruin it.
It only applies to circuit boards. You can zap a tiny hole into the circuitry that can cause any number of problems at any point in the future, including corrosion that can damage other components. Touch the metal on the powersupply before handling the mobo and only touch the edges of the mobo and youll be fine.
That build is shit, I mean, the 5600g is a gimped 5600x with half the l3 cache and it can't support PCIe4, and the next step up from the 6650XT is the 6700xt, which moggs it into the stratosphere. Despite that, your build probably is better than half of Ganker, because half of Ganker is pajeet shills that game on scavenged Dell optiplex's from their call center jobs and 6+ year old laptops.
the cable management is going to be the worst part depending on what type of power supply and case you get. it's not hard, but frustrating
also these little frickers
Buy a prebuilt, its unironically better.
You don't save any money from buying individual parts, Ganker just likes to flex that they enjoy to waste their time connecting bullshit together.
Seems like all you did recently was tell a fricking lie.
Prebuilts and buying individual parts have the same exact price tag.
There is no real difference between the two.
Prebuilts still suck ass, dude.
The only reason to get one is if it's got a good warranty and you're too moronic to solve any of your own computer problems.
Basically, it's good for boomers and literal morons.
They don't, individual parts sucks ass.
Imagine thinking you're betetr off buying multiple little products, waiting for them all too arrive, THEN having to put them all together is somehow better than just buying a complete package.
I know you're a stupid autismal b***h, so just say so.
But learn that isn't something to be proud of, dipshit.
Buy a prebuilt, its unironically better.
You don't save any money from buying individual parts, Ganker just likes to flex that they enjoy to waste their time connecting bullshit together.
anon you are moronic. you think a profit margin of 0 is going to keep prebuild companies afloat?
>proft margin of 0
?????
You think buying individual parts gives them a profit margin of 0???
Are you fricking moronic?
Buying individual parts by that logic means its actually PRICIER, same as how buying bulk is always cheaper than just going out buying individual parts.
You're a fricking moron that doesn't know how companies fricking work.
Pre-built uses lower quality parts, and typically skimp out on either the GPU or the CPU, if not both. Sure you can get an i7 and a 2060 for the same price as buying the parts individually, but it'll be a slower i7 and a slower 2060. It'll also have a shitty motherboard that bottlenecks upgrades. Not that the current trend of every new cpu needs a new slot doesn't do the same, but if you switch to Ryzen for CPU this stops being an issue.
>Pre-built uses lower quality parts
And so do you if you want to keep costs extra low to match the price point of prebuilts otherwise your shit is going to be more costly than a prebuilt you fricking dipshit.
Find me a Pre-built that matches this, Anon, or even one close for $1582.97 or less.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDMMqm
9 months ago
Anonymous
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDMMqm
I found 30
9 months ago
Anonymous
Post even one of them then
9 months ago
Anonymous
the scariest part of that entire list to me is that I bought that exact same cooler in 2016 for 25 dollars. It has quite literally doubled in price Unless I got a slightly different version but I'm pretty sure I got that exact model.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, it's the same for me. Metal prices have gone up, and so did demand for that specific cooler since watercooling became less popular. It's natural that it hiked.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't disagree but >16 core i7 >32gb ram >just a 3060
Priorities anon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
People who praise building your own PC are homosexuals who unironically don't understand jack shit about PC.
These are the homosexuals who flip shit that their GPU or CPU is hitting 80 and think they now have to resort to water cooling because their little game heats up their parts a tad bit and how if they aren't at negative 100 degrees their parts will now melt.
These are the homosexuals who run around with shit like 64gb of ram thinking their games need it.
?????
I literally bought a prebuilt last year with a 3070 for that price point.
What the frick?
That isn't even a 3060ti.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Proud of being scammed.
Imagine being this moronic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking post it, homosexual. Let me see the specs and price. Otherwise you're talking out of your ass and realized that you don't understand hardware as well as you thought you did.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The price you kiddo.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you hiding the brand and model? >already an inferior CPU right out the gate
9 months ago
Anonymous
>8gb 3070 >that ram >that CPU
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
9 months ago
Anonymous
>worse CPU >half the RAM
Anon...
9 months ago
Anonymous
>$1600 for an: >i7 >cheap chinese 16gb ram sticks with low Hz. >Only 1 TB SSD >Cheap ass power supply and cooling that will eventually brick the motherboard. >The motherboard is probably some cheap shit from 30 years ago just like how they add them in Alienware prebuilts.
HOLY SHIT, you got MEGA SCAMMED. Did you just look at the GPU before you decided to buy this? You are a fricking moron and deserve to lose your money.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>cheap chinese 16gb ram sticks with low Hz.
He probably only got 1 stick, too. lol.
9 months ago
Anonymous
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Qp8dH
Built your PC for $300 cheaper using comparable parts, and even included Windows 11 in the price.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Now do one 2 years ago during the height of the crypto mining.
Anon I’m literally this guy[...]
Then you would think you'd be smart enough not to be moronic, but I guess just because you're smart enough to buy pre built you're not smart enough to think beyond that.
>Absolutely mind broken, as you pay more for less
Are you fricking moronic? You paid more for a shittier cpu, ram and 8gb gpu.
Like holy frick dude this is actually sad.
>you paid more for a better gpu!!!11
Yeah I did, homosexual.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>better GPU
No, 8gb is actually pretty bad. 12gb is good VRAM. You're already obsolete but paid top dollar.
And again your ram and cpu are bottle necking the shit our of your system. Having a 3070 doesn't magically make your pc run at peak 3070 performance. I shouldn't have to explain this, but you've demonstrated how abysmally moronic you are.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's a prebuilt so you can guarantee even the 3070 put in is the cheapest one available that they could find, even worse than the Founder's Edition.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, you put racing tired on a 4 cylinder engine and swear it runs faster than a V6 with standard tires.
>2 years ago during a crypto boom
I decided to learn Chinese instead of gaming. So, I wasn't impacted by the boom prices. I just bought a new GPU last week and RAM last year. The specs I posted were because it should be easy to find Pre-built that have "similar specs", but what I have you also has higher clock speeds and VRAM than what you will typically find in a Pre-built.
Here's my machine since it means so much to you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>650W CPU
you done fricked
9 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
OH NO BROS, THEY ONLY GAVE ME 16GB RAM WHICH IS ALL YOU NEED TO RUN EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET AND ANY GAME FLAWLESSLY.
OH NO HOW WILL I EVER COPE, DAMN IF ONLY I PURCHASED AN OVERPRICED 3060 WITH MORE RAM!!!
Cope and seethe, unironically prebuilts >>>>> individual parts buying.
You are a fricking joke.
I spent the last 10 minutes building a better PC that can run laps around yours, for 50 dollars less, and with none of the parts on sale. If it were close to black Friday or even a month ago durring Prime Day, then I could easily shave off another 100-200 bucks, to either save more money or budget in a 7900XT or much weaker performing 4070 if you absolutely need nvidia for whatever reason. You have no defense.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>teehee >I just made a cheaper PC than the 2 year old PC you bought
Ummm sweaty, do you need to take your meds?
Like sweaty, are you okay, things age and things get cheaper.
Like, hello?
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's cheaper than the price you gave TODAY. Are you trying to say that your prebuilt was the same price 2 years ago? When are you going to post the model?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are you stupid?
I bought that PC 2 years AGO.
So of course things will be cheaper, NOW.
That is how technology fricking works, dipshit.
>I just made a cheaper PC than the 2 year old PC you bought
Yes, MUCH cheaper.
>inflation affects everything equally
Call yourself a stupid b***h.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So did it cost the $1500 2 years ago, or was that the price of it today? What is the fricking model number?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>inflation affects everything equally
It litterally does, are you fricking moronic? Inflation affects price of living, and that translates to everything else being comparatively more expensive, even if sticker price is the same.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Pre builts are FACTORY MADE, as in they are built via a fricking conveyor built and are mass produced.
this is simply false, they buy parts and have regular dudes build them, do you think a conveyor belt is gonna do intricate cable management, or get in deep nooks and crannies for screws. There are companies that rely heavily on machines but most ones use humans
Stop telling him this, I am losing customers.
9 months ago
Anonymous
OH MY GOSH BRO, YOU PAID $400 FOR A PS1 DECADES PAST?!?!
BUT I PAID $400 FOR A PS5 I THINK YOU GOT RIPPED OFF!!!11
>I don't know how inflation works
Just say that, moron.
Things don't inflate equally you fricking moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
don't care still building a pc
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Things don't inflate equally you fricking moron.
When milk, eggs, and gas cost more but your wages are the same, then everything else will "feel" more expensive because your budget is smaller. Things don't need to inflate equally for inflation to make you poor.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pre builts are LITERALLY mass fricking produced.
Factory fricking made, these morons UNIRONICALLY think there is some tech dudes in a store just building it together.
These morons think that some 80yr old brownie can't do the same shit they are doing in some fricking factory.
>M-M-MUH CABLE MANAGEMENT
Sweaty, you've never been to an actual factory have you?
>everything will "FEEL"
Facts don't care about your feelings sweaty.
Things don't inflate equally, FACT.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Disregard everything I said, I changed my mind and realized I was moronic. Here anime girl as proof.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Bros forgive me but i was wrong. I'm actually crying irl now because i just realized i got scammed and I take back everything I said previously, here's an anime girl to prove it's me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
real
9 months ago
Anonymous
>So of course things will be cheaper, NOW. >That is how technology fricking works, dipshit.
Nvidia would like to have a word with you. They rebranded their 50 series cards as 60 series and are selling them for 80 series prices.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Blame capitalism.
Companies, farmers...etc do it all the time.
We have the technology to mass produce everything to the point where shit could cost a fricking $1.
But instead we get artificial scarcity so companies can keep overpricing and keep getting global profits while shit is cheaper than ever when it comes to producing thanks to machines now doing 90% of the work and pajeets doing the other 10%.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>capitalism invented greed
9 months ago
Anonymous
>p-p-p-pls don't blame the economic system that literally promote and incentivizes greed >i-i-i-its everything else's at fault
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Under "Not-Capitalism" everything will be perfect just 'cause!!!!!!
besides the GPU and CPU.
They skimp on everything including those, if you're getting lets say a 3080 in a prebuilt, you can guarantee it will be worse than the FE version. Alienware has tailor made small GPU versions that run about as good as 80% of the real thing like laptop GPUS but they will still advertise it as being a 3080.
Fricking Alienware lmao. >Custom mobos with shit performance and terrible ergonomics just so you can't upgrade them >terrible cases with shit ergonomics and airflow that throttles performance due to thermals >always uses the worst possible ram >mystery meat PSU that makes random Pakistani PSUs look like Thermaltake Platinums >$5000 for i9s with i5 performance
9 months ago
Anonymous
>evertyhing is better under capitalism because....because it just is OKAY?!!?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Better than starving to death because the commissariat killed off the farmers for not being faithful enough to the revolution.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Better than starving to death
Ummm sweaty, what flyover state do you live at where you don't see a legion of homeless currently starving to death?
9 months ago
Anonymous
none of these people are starving to death. you have to willfully choose to starve to death in this country.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not my problem.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh it's just a gayifornian crying about his shit hole state that exists as a direct result of the terrible policies enacted by politicians he supports. You made your bed, now get fricked in it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>a problem only known in urban downtown cores >imply it's the flyover normies who have the problem
Oh I am laughin'
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I just made a cheaper PC than the 2 year old PC you bought
Yes, MUCH cheaper.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This just means your 720p PC was even more overpriced when you got it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>heh... you guys can't find a cheaper PC than my pre built >*gets BTFO* >uhhhh... well this was like 2 years ago so that doesn't count!
lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
>makes shit up >make a fool of himself >proceeds to think he's right
Call yourself a stupid b***h and take your meds.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>6800xt
I would rather have this than your 3-year-old GPU:
https://www.newegg.com/msi-aegis-r-13nue-458us/p/N82E16883151281
9 months ago
Anonymous
>2.1GHZ CPU >16GB ram >with a fricking RTX 4070
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your CPU is a little better according to Passmark but I am not planning on compiling Google Chrome of Firefox while gaming. The 4070 is flat out better for gaming. I don't want to even think about what Portal RTX would look like on your build.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The 4070 is 30% bottlenecking that CPU. If you built that PC, you could get a 4080, losing the bottleneck entirely, and come up to maybe $100 more, and you would also get better clockspeeds on the RAM.
All that being said, the CPU is great for modern games, but anything that isn't optimized to utilize the cores and threads is going to struggle to run.
9 months ago
Anonymous
woah! what a piece of shit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GGGqsh
same specs $400 less
9 months ago
Anonymous
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GGGqsh
I don't know about that $20 fan. Also no operating system. I'm guessing you're planning on getting Windows Bitcoin miner edition from piratebay. Other than that it seems like a good build, but not saving much compared to the prebuilt. Also, 1600 - 1400 = $200 savings, not 400. I would still rather get the prebuilt.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no operating system
actual normalhomosexual
mmm yes daddy please install bloatware onto my pc, i wouldn't care to pirate windows for free >1600
check what the original price is dumbass
9 months ago
Anonymous
Crying more will not convince me to get your shit build.
9 months ago
Anonymous
holy cope
9 months ago
Anonymous
>i build my own PCs so i can use $20 fans
Good for you, champ.
9 months ago
Anonymous
explain why that's bad
9 months ago
Anonymous
I've made that mistake before along with cheap PSUs. Playing AAA on Ultra settings for extended periods especially during summer is asking for sudden restarts or shutdowns.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You can literally just take your old SSD and slap it in to keep your current OS, or just install Linux
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you so adamantly hate RAM and VRAM?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I specifically stated in my post you could swap in a 4070 if you wanted to. Pic related, still $25 dollars cheaper than the shitrig you posted WITHOUT sales, and in every regard it blows it the frick out.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>low-end GPU >most powerful gaming CPU on the market
troll thread
9 months ago
Anonymous
>ryzen 7 7800 >most powerful on the market
it's high end anon but let's not get stupid here
9 months ago
Anonymous
For gaming the 7800X3D is the most powerful cpu period. For people with money that want to maximize current performance then they'd go with the 7800x3d & 4090.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Which goes back to my point. Even the 4090 is not enough to tax high-end CPUs like the 7800X3D. Nor the 13900 for that matter, either.
You save $25 but you still have no operating system and you have to put all that crap together.
Windows is free. I've been running Windows 10 without a key for two years now. Every time Windows ask for it, I just tell it to ask me again later. For two years.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You save $25 but you still have no operating system and you have to put all that crap together.
9 months ago
Anonymous
OS is free and putting things together isn't as hard as you think unless you're morbidly obese and moronic which seems to be a lot of Ganker
9 months ago
Anonymous
I have been building PCs for a decade. It's not worth it any more unless I have specific needs like lots of ram to run my own cloud or exotic parts to show off for likes on social media.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Run windows 10 and then use the github script to spoof a key and make it free. Works for windows 11, too. Microsoft does not care, they make their money back anyway collecting your data and shilling their services. You don't enter "bad goy" territory until you try to debloat windows and turn off the telemetry shit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>7800X3D
Okay. >paired with 6800xt
Why!?
9 months ago
Anonymous
6800XT is still a beast for 1440p, and godmode for 1080p. When playing at the 1440p sweetspot, it's better to be GPU bottlenecked than CPU bottlenecked, because you don't have to worry about stutters and your lows are good. Also if you have any plan on emulating, then the 7800X3D can boost up to 5ghz on single core workloads, which is more than enough. Down the road you'll also have an easier time selling the GPU to upgrade to something beefier if you feel like games have become too demanding.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your 6800XT will not see a single benefit from being paired to the 7800X3D. Even the 4090 struggles to see any major boost from it.
About the best you can benefit from in terms of emulation is getting an extra 30FPS in RPCS3 for RDR2. That's it. A game that already runs at 60FPS on CPUs half as powerful under Xenia.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I use my 6800 xt for 2160p and still get 100+fps. I don't get why people say it can't do above 1080p
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is incredibly stupid. You could have gotten a 7700x for almost half the price of a 7800x3d and upgraded the gpu to something better like a 7900xt or even an xtx.
9 months ago
Anonymous
7800X3D is overkill, anyway. Nothing out now really takes advantage of it. If anything you're bottlenecking the CPU with that thing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's always funny when people go overkill for the CPU since if you're playing 1080p (which is mainly where the CPU is used over the GPU) then you wouldn't need that much power in the first place.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not necessarily. It's just that 1080p has such a low overhead that you can run it at really high refresh, and it's that high refresh that taxes the CPU.
>ryzen 7 7800 >most powerful on the market
it's high end anon but let's not get stupid here
Yes. The 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is hilarious. Post a benchmark so we can laugh at this absolute Picasso of a machine
9 months ago
Anonymous
In star citizen 64gb of ram has a noticeable frame difference.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Who fricking gives a shit about the most bloated borderline nft game in history
9 months ago
Anonymous
>64gb of ram
It isn't the '90s anymore anon. Even Windows is smart enough now to use unused physical RAM as a disk cache to reduce load times.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You have no idea what you're talking about
9 months ago
Anonymous
Let me explain it more at your level anon.
One day, Mr Operating System was loading graphics for Timmy's favorite game. Mr Operating System noticed that there was a lot of RAM free that wasn't being used by Timmy at the moment. So, Mr Operating System decided to save a copy of the graphics in some of the unused RAM. Later, when Timmy finally beat the level and moved on to the next, the game asked for the graphics again. Because game developers also go on the short bus with anon. But, Mr Operating System, being clever, just quickly hands the game the copy he saved in RAM, instead of going to the slow disk to fetch it out again. So Timmy got back to playing his game without so much waiting at the loading screen. The end.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Because game developers also go on the short bus with anon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
80 Celsius is a cooling issue, but it's probably also unavoidable in a country of brown people like you
9 months ago
Anonymous
>cooling issue
PCs are built to operate just fine on consistent 90+
Frick you mean """cooling issue""".
Why are you hiding the brand and model? >already an inferior CPU right out the gate
>inferior CPU
Rather an inferior CPU than a fricking 3060, which is leagues worse than a fricking 3070, homosexual.
What brand and model, kiddo.
You wanted proof there it is, I bought this a year or 2 ago.
Unironically paying the same price as I did for less.
>8gb 3070 >that ram >that CPU
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>worse CPU >half the RAM
Anon...
>anons UNIRONICALLY UNIRONICALLY think they need a better cpu/ram
OH NONONONO
9 months ago
Anonymous
>doubling down on buying shit hardware at a high price
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you for the laugh, anon, you dumb bastard. Corporations love people like you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>$1600 for an: >i7 >cheap chinese 16gb ram sticks with low Hz. >Only 1 TB SSD >Cheap ass power supply and cooling that will eventually brick the motherboard. >The motherboard is probably some cheap shit from 30 years ago just like how they add them in Alienware prebuilts.
HOLY SHIT, you got MEGA SCAMMED. Did you just look at the GPU before you decided to buy this? You are a fricking moron and deserve to lose your money.
OH NO BROS, THEY ONLY GAVE ME 16GB RAM WHICH IS ALL YOU NEED TO RUN EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET AND ANY GAME FLAWLESSLY.
OH NO HOW WILL I EVER COPE, DAMN IF ONLY I PURCHASED AN OVERPRICED 3060 WITH MORE RAM!!!
Cope and seethe, unironically prebuilts >>>>> individual parts buying.
You are a fricking joke.
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, making money out of thin air!
9 months ago
Anonymous
>avatar gay telling others to buy a prebuilt
9 months ago
Anonymous
how do you know she doesn’t actually look like that?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You have to be underage in order to be this moronic. Did your parents buy that prebuilt for your birthday, lil zoom zoom?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>He's still going
You paid the same price for a good custom PC build for shittier hardware, for no reason other than you being a tech illiterate weeb.
Just leave, anon. We are laughing at you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
80 is the high for safe operating workload.
The shit CPU bottlenecks your GPU by 6.5% at just 1080p. You may as well be using a 3060, but you can always overlock the CPU to fix this.
Your ram is not only half the capacity but it is also half the clockspeed.
I can't comment on the GPU differences in detail without knowing what brand your Pre-built is, but you're already sitting at 8VRAM instead of 12, and I can only assume your clock speeds are lower.
You "paid the same" to get objectively worse performance than what I posted originally.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>80 is the high for safe operating workload
Umm sweaty, since fricking when?
Gpus don't even begin to thermal throttle until they hit 83 by default and they can SAFELY operate at 90 consistently.
>by 6.5%
OH GOD, 6.5%, OH GOD OH NO.
HOLY SHIT, OH GOOD, OH NO, HOW WILL I EVER FRICKING COPE
OH GOD, AGGGGHHHHHH
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Umm sweaty, since fricking when? >Gpus don't even begin to thermal throttle until they hit 83 by default and they can SAFELY operate at 90 consistently.
Just when I thought this couldn't be more hilarious, he keeps going.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>PCs are built to operate just fine on consistent 90+
They shouldn't.
I try to stay in the 70s while using the GPU, 5s0 while shitposting and such and high 30's while iddle. My ancient 780 still works flawlessly to this day. Temp can degrade your equipment over time.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDMMqm >$1600 >Nvidia 3060
No thanks. I can play Starfield for about a $1100 with a 4060 or 3070.
Pre-built uses lower quality parts, and typically skimp out on either the GPU or the CPU, if not both. Sure you can get an i7 and a 2060 for the same price as buying the parts individually, but it'll be a slower i7 and a slower 2060. It'll also have a shitty motherboard that bottlenecks upgrades. Not that the current trend of every new cpu needs a new slot doesn't do the same, but if you switch to Ryzen for CPU this stops being an issue.
Enjoy your $20 case from aliexpress, MOBO only sold in taiwan and brazil, RAM sticks of the same brand but different speed (if they even bother to put more than one stick lmao) and """850W 80+ PLATINUM""" PSU made in pakistan. And even if you get "lucky" and they sell you quality parts (with an inflated price of course), it's still no guarantee that they won't frick it up, i've seen people wonder why their 2k prebuilt sounds like a jet engine or shuts down under load, only to find out that the redditors who put together the thing forgot to remove the little plastic cover in the cooler or outright forgetting to put thermal paste.
>e-e-e-enjoy your low quality parts
Ummm sweaty, what universe do you exist in where majority of shit isn't made by China and other 3rd world shitholes?
Fricking moron.
My brother bought a pre-built and his CPU was over heating. Turned out they didn't remove the fricking sticker on the heat sink for the CPU that says "remove me before installing"
Youre a dumb weeb
>MY ONE ANECDOTAL PROOF IS PROOF
Can't count the number of shitters who bought individual parts and end up crying how it doesn't work, now they have to troubleshoot each individual part figure out what is the one causing the problem and ship it back.
If my pre built comes out DOA I ship the whole thing back without having to bust my nuts over it.
Call yourself a stupid b***h.
>If my pre built comes out DOA I ship the whole thing back without having to bust my nuts over it.
Top kek I can't believe you typed this out.
Guess how many of my custom builds have been DOA? Zero. Because I know my parts and I'm not paying 1600 dollars for a shitty ass NIC, PSU and fans.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And you know how many of my pre builts came out DOA?
ZERO, your point kiddo?
I'm just saying if it DID happen you'd be the one busting your little ol nuts but then again not like a homosexual like you would ever reproduce so you wont have to worry on that part.
I'd rather save money AND time with my prebuilts than playing autism simulator buying individual parts and then connecting them.
Maybe after you grow up you'll realize how stupid you are and how immature you are to think you're some BADASS because you spend more money to do more work.
There's a huge difference between a $20 no-name PSU made in china, and something like a 600W bronze rated corsair, also made in china. Never said chinese parts were inherently bad, yeston for example makes quality GPU's with cute anime girls on them. Prebuilts always skimp out on something, that's their entire business, selling shitty computers to morons that don't know any better and only look at the 4080 it has inside or the flashy case with a frickton of gay lights and glass panel.
>t-t-t-there's a huge difference I swear!!!11
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Anonymous
>screeching ad hominem post
We broke the weeb, lads. He's melting down.
There's a huge difference between a $20 no-name PSU made in china, and something like a 600W bronze rated corsair, also made in china. Never said chinese parts were inherently bad, yeston for example makes quality GPU's with cute anime girls on them. Prebuilts always skimp out on something, that's their entire business, selling shitty computers to morons that don't know any better and only look at the 4080 it has inside or the flashy case with a frickton of gay lights and glass panel.
>Ummm sweaty, what universe do you exist in where majority of shit isn't made by China and other 3rd world shitholes?
Dell and HP in particular use proprietary components designed specifically for them to be cheap as shit, hard to upgrade, and just plain shit. The prebuilt mobos, cases, and gpus are bellow even the cheapest consumer-grade parts when it comes to functionality, performance, and cooling. Those generically branded gpus stripped from prebuilt pc's are loud as mother fricker and still throttle because the cooling solution is ass.
Prebuilts still suck ass, dude.
The only reason to get one is if it's got a good warranty and you're too moronic to solve any of your own computer problems.
Basically, it's good for boomers and literal morons.
My brother bought a pre-built and his CPU was over heating. Turned out they didn't remove the fricking sticker on the heat sink for the CPU that says "remove me before installing"
Youre a dumb weeb
Prebuilts suck dick, the only reason you "don't save any money" is because they cheap out on anything that isn't marketable.
They'll proudly boast "WAOW I9-42069, RTX 9999 AND 20 Black personBYTE SSD!!!!!!!!!" and then you open it up to find the PSU is some chink housefire, the SSD is some $20 SATA drive, the RAM is slow, the MB is using a low-end chipset, the CPU is using the stock cooler, etc. etc.
I make a living recycling old PCs and anything that isn't a custom build is like this, whether it's Dell, HP, iBuyPower, or whatever all of them equally suck.
Woah, so like pre builts suck cuz they cheap out on parts people don't give a frick about?!?213
Oh lawd, muh FANS, oh no, my PC parts are hitting 70 degrees even though they can easily manage consistent 90 degrees but I MUST HAVE THEM AT NEGATIVE 30 DEGREES FRICK THEM SHITTY STOCK FANS.
MUH RAM, OH GOD NOT THE RAM!!1111 HOW WILL I COPE WITHOUT MY 12334123213123 GB RAM, HOW WILL I PLAY MY GAMES, OH NO PLS IGNORE THE FACT THAT EVEN MODERN GAMES CAN FUNCTION ON 8GB RAM I NEED MUH UNLIMITED SUPERFAST SPEED RAMMM AHHHHHH
AHHHHHH COMPANIES SUCK LET ME PAY MORE FOR LESS!!!!!
>cuz they cheap out on parts people don't give a frick about?!?213
Like the PSU and the RAM. But it has a 4090 and the latest incel processor, and it only cost 4 grand, so it was a good deal!
When I first started I got the first option scenario and upgraded the graphics card a few months later. It wasn't a bad way to start out, but then I realized that the CPU was the shittiest of that line, too. Never again.
A proper way to derail an otherwise baited thread.
You will melt your motherboard if you don't put the CPU on right.
Make sure you press it firmly onto the board for proper contact. They're sturdier than they look, so don't worry too much about damaging the pins.
lmao what motherboards are you using that don't have a clamp
>Just build a PC bro it's just like building legos >you brought a too large graphics card? Too bad bro >Your AIO is 2mm thicker for the case? Goota replace it. >Oh you brought the wrong power supply? Enjoy electrocution and a housefire bro >Oh you applied too much thermal paste? Enjoy your broken CPU bro >Oh you inserted the RAM with more force than a small girl? Enjoy your destroyed PC bro >Oh you didn't perfectly align the GPU connectors because you were afraid they might break too? Enjoy the melting cables bro
Increasing world wide tech literacy is about to reach an apex. So much more dangerous than your grandpa not knowing how to send an email.
Just buy the individual parts and just pay some autist to build it for you. You then get the quality of a custom build with the convenience of not having to build it yourself. >but the building part is fun
It was fun when I was 21. Now I'm 36 and free time is a premium. The 2-8 hours of my free time I spend building a computer and setting it up are 2-8 hours I'm not playing video games.
Yes, if everything goes well. Then sometimes there's a weird error you need to troubleshoot or a part was defective and needs to be sent back or something else happens. Just because a task SHOULD take 1-2 hours doesn't mean it can't end up taking 1-2 days, and after you've been burned enough by that, just paying someone to make the problem go away becomes a lot more reasonable.
>put on an episode of better call saul >put the legos together >install drivers >install programs >make a snack
all of that is done before the credits roll
>buy prebuilt >you get the worst hard drive, PSU and fan known to man so they can squeeze even more money from you >even high end prebuilts costing several thousands of dollars can run at 100 degrees centigrade (if over 100 degrees most computers overheat and crash) and that is fine according to them
vs making it yourself >become knowledgable about pcs >know what parts go together and how to squeeze out the most power per dollar you have >can help friends if they have issues >if your pc starts to have problems, you can most likely fix it yourself because you are the one that built it so if you need to replace the hard drive for example, you know what wires go where so you dont need to bring it to a repair shop >you save money by making it yourself
It's not too hard, if you need to you should refer to a video of someone assembling a pc so you are sure where everything goes. Hardest part of it all is managing the cables though
In theory it's easier than legos but in practice you can frick up many things by using too much force, getting dimensions wrong, or just static electricity bricking everything.
That's on your for getting a small troony motherboard instead of a ATX
Buy a prebuilt, its unironically better.
You don't save any money from buying individual parts, Ganker just likes to flex that they enjoy to waste their time connecting bullshit together.
Seems like all you did recently was tell a fricking lie.
Prebuilts and buying individual parts have the same exact price tag.
There is no real difference between the two.
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They don't, individual parts sucks ass.
Imagine thinking you're betetr off buying multiple little products, waiting for them all too arrive, THEN having to put them all together is somehow better than just buying a complete package.
I know you're a stupid autismal b***h, so just say so.
But learn that isn't something to be proud of, dipshit.
>e-e-e-enjoy your low quality parts
Ummm sweaty, what universe do you exist in where majority of shit isn't made by China and other 3rd world shitholes?
Fricking moron.
[...] >MY ONE ANECDOTAL PROOF IS PROOF
Can't count the number of shitters who bought individual parts and end up crying how it doesn't work, now they have to troubleshoot each individual part figure out what is the one causing the problem and ship it back.
If my pre built comes out DOA I ship the whole thing back without having to bust my nuts over it.
Call yourself a stupid b***h.
Back when Alienware was the only company making gaming PCs, it was possible to save a lot by building your own since you could do things like buy the ugliest case available for $40. Now there is so much competition, there isn't much point especially if you are building something high end that requires water cooling or giga fans.
Wear one of those anti-static wristbands if you're scared of frying something. DON'T STAND ON A FRICKING CARPET. You absolutely can't frick it up, hell , these days they even sell modular/semi-modular PSU's so you can only plug the cables you're going to use and put away the rest.
The CPU, GPU and RAM only fit one way. Screwing the MOBO to the case is not an issue, as the stand-offs are already in place. The PSU if modular has a little manual telling you where each cable goes, but basically you only need 3: the 24 pin (motherboard), the 8 pin (4+4, CPU), and another 8 pin (6+2, GPU, it should have at least two of these), it also has another two or three i don't remember the name of, but these days you only use them for old HDD's, RGAYB fans (unless your MOBO is a $50 piece of shit it should let you plug the fans/LEDs to it) or old, normal fans that don't plug to the MOBO.
The only thing you might frick up is screwing down the NVME SSD, i've seen people doing it directly to the board (it has a stand-off you have to screw in), bending the fricking thing, or just being scared of having to push it down and screw it, thinking it's going to break. Watch some videos if you're not sure how it goes, but basically you can't frick it up unless you're clinically moronic.
not very hard. the actually confusing and sort of difficult part if you don't know a thing about computer hardware is to pick and choose all necessary parts and making sure they're compatible. you can skip all of that by just picking a tier on logicalincrements.com or some other place that shows recommended builds though.
the one thing logicalincrements doesn't mention is case fans, but from what i see most cases seem to have them preinstalled.
Oh for fricks sake, it's an easy reference to make homosexual. What, you afraid someone is going to call you a soiboi because you mentioned a popular building toy? My girlfriend bought me some tiny Lego AT-AT at a Publix one day despite the fact that I don't have any legos and that I hate Nu-Wars. Am I going to throw it out and tell her "sorry babe, legos are blue-pilled and cringe"? Grow the frick up you little shit.
>save $100 or more by buying this hideous case for your 4090
There's a reason these threads never have comparisons between prebuilts and a shopping cart full of parts.
Just bend it right back, even if it broke off you can just insert in into the corresponding hole in the motherboard and it will work. CPU pins are nothing to worry about, motherboard pins on the other hand...
Always check a PSU with the paperclip test before assuming it's bad.
If you've got a known good PSU and the board isn't reacting at all (Isn't even flashing an indicator light or giving a bad POST beep on the PC speaker) you've got a dead mobo.
i dont remember the board model, but it is silent and doesnt have lights on it. i better look it up again, i have replaced the cooler already and reseated everything to try to see if i can solve it. it's not really my pc, but maybe the motherboard is just dead. it works only intermittently and now not at all.
Every board has them, that's how you diagnose shit like bad ram sticks, dead cpu, dead gpu, etc, if your computer can't get video or doesn't even get to the bios.
>works only intermittently and now not at all
With a known good PSU, the most likely culprit is a bad cap somewhere on the mobo. Unless it's nostalgic or vintage and irreplaceable, probably best just to replace the PC.
Of your PC beeps or even shows lights, it's not the PSU. Tbh it's good to get a PSU tester unit. Your issue is most likely your RAM or motherboard, assuming you've tried booting without a GPU and have a cpu that supports integrated graphics.
Shove a paperclip into pins 16 and 17, and then plug it in, flip the power switch, and see if your PSU fan turns. Don't let the paperclip touch anything else or you'll have a bad day.
>remove all RAM sticks except one >does it post? >if not swap the RAM stick for one of the others
RAM is the easiest thing to troubleshoot so start there
already removed everything and all that. ive narrowed it down to maybe the cpu or the motherboard. it doesnt even have a gpu. again it is very old. im in bed so i dont remember the board model.
Could be something as simple as you need to replace the thermal paste rather than a part being busted
The motherboard would be cheaper to replace than a CPU but ideally you should check both parts before making a purchase. You know anyone with a computer that'd let you swap your CPU in to test?
You look at the requirements on Steam for the game you want. Copy and paste the name of the CPU into google along with the word Passmark to get a rating. Do the same for the GPU, then go search Newegg during back to school or holiday sales for something with a similar or higher passmark score.
>pay some homosexual to build me a PC >wait a week for him to rush it and build it incorrectly >pay twice as much as MSRP
vs >buy all the parts on overclockers >have them shipped next day >build PC the next afternoon with youtube tutorial >eat the sweets they sent in the boxes with them
>creates a fake story in his schizo head >YOU HAVE TO BE moronic TO PICK X SIDE THAT I CREATED IN MY SKITZO BRAIN
Only moron here is you, take your meds.
>Just build a PC bro it's just like building legos >you brought a too large graphics card? Too bad bro >Your AIO is 2mm thicker for the case? Goota replace it. >Oh you brought the wrong power supply? Enjoy electrocution and a housefire bro >Oh you applied too much thermal paste? Enjoy your broken CPU bro >Oh you inserted the RAM with more force than a small girl? Enjoy your destroyed PC bro >Oh you didn't perfectly align the GPU connectors because you were afraid they might break too? Enjoy the melting cables bro
>electrocution and a housefire
Tell me you're British without telling me you're British. Do you have trouble sleeping at night because the spooky mains goblins might get you if you don't turn off each and every socket?
>large graphics card
I give you this one, even my R5 wouldn't be able to fit a 4090, and that shit is huge. >AIO 2mm thicker
Do you even know what an AIO is? The coolers go on top or in the front, there's no way they don't fit unless they're a non-standard size (120mm, 140mm). >wrong power supply
Excuse me? Even if you buy an old power supply for a 4090, there's adapters for it. There's no way to buy a wrong power supply, if you mean buying an insufficient PSU for a power hungry card, it will just not power up instead of exploding. >too much thermal paste
Not an issue unless you literally dump the entire fricking tube on it, and even then there's people who do exactly that and spread it with a credit card so the paste covers the entire chip. >inserted the RAM with too much force
It literally only fits one way, if you try to push it down EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, then that's on you for being moronic. >perfectly align the GPU connectors
How is this an issue? You even hear a click when you push them all the way in.
I don't know what kind of people you deal with every day, but they're clearly not light colored.
Bait but it is just too funny... >you brought a too large graphics card? Too bad bro >Your AIO is 2mm thicker for the case? Goota replace it.
How do you not know the dimensions of your case? Again only if you have a shitty prebuild or bought some weird actek bullshit. >>Oh you brought the wrong power supply? Enjoy electrocution and a housefire bro
Black person, where did you even got your power supply? that has not been an issue in decades. Some refurbished shit from craigslist or something, I mean I guess some really obscure chinese sites might sell you refurbished power supplies but again even a modest 550 bronze supply should be enough for a gaming set up unless you thought to buy a 3090 and match it with a 400w supply. >>Oh you applied too much thermal paste? Enjoy your broken CPU bro
God damn, the fricking thing comes with a guide and applier. >>Oh you inserted the RAM with more force than a small girl? Enjoy your destroyed PC bro >>Oh you didn't perfectly align the GPU connectors because you were afraid they might break too? Enjoy the melting cables bro
Rofl.
>asrock
No, it's literally the only MOBO i've had that died on me, it was a b450 steel legend. >kingston RAM
Has issues with ryzen processors, even if you get matching sticks. Go corsair or g.skill. >TUF gaming
Enjoy your jet engine. With nvidia it's evga (rip)>msi>xfx>shit>everything else>zotac. >noctua d15s
Mogged by the peerless assassin, a $30 cooler.
Every mobo manufacturer has their share of problems, but for the price Asrock sells well made competitive parts. In 5 years I see them replacing ASUS at the rate things are going.
The idea of buying pre-built is nice for people who have the money to spare but not the patience or perceived time, since if something goes wrong you can point the finger at them and get it fixed, but in practice the pre-builts my friends have gotten and the one I got years ago all had more problems than the ones I've built. They frick up random shit like not using thermal paste correctly, bare minimum cable management, and not seating NVMe SSDs correctly (the latter one was causing my friend's to blue screen frequently, all I had to do was re-seat it and it's been fine since)
I could honestly go on but what I'm saying is that you're doing the right thing and the monkeys they have building these PCs are hardly more knowledgeable than you. I had to look up how to install a new shower head yesterday and I successfully built my first PC 10 years ago, it's crazy easy but understandably intimidating. Put your PSU in first, plug it into the wall but don't turn it in on so your build is grounded, give yourself room on a hard surface, then go to town. My go-to order is PSU > Motherboard > plug PSU power into mobo and get it out of the way > CPU > CPU cooler > plug fans into mobo > mount drives > plug everything in that needs plugging > FRONT I/O PANEL PLUGS LOOK AT YOUR MOBO MANUAL FOR THIS IT IS THE ONLY TIME YOU'LL NEED TO REFERENCE THAT > RAM > GPU
GPU last since it gets in the way of other shit and you can plug it in without unplugging anything else. I've never fricked up any of my ~5 builds and I'm moronic and don't know how electricity works just have a tutorial ready and give yourself time, also these components are more sturdy than you think - handle them with care but you can even drop shit and it'll still work
You can frick something up and lose hundreds of dollars.
People say it's easy, but first time isn't, theres a lot you need to know.
I watched videos first time i was building and they left out important info, i had to watch mulitple sources and read the manual.
Cpu is probably the hardest part because you can easily break your pins. You have to tighten fan right, you have to use the right ammount of thermal paste. What is the right ammount, well there are different answers.
Rams, easy gpu is easyish. Hard drives can be a little complicated depending on case.
I highly recommend getting an ssd for your os drive, also get one for gaming drive, hard drives aren't worth it imo unless you just want to store stuff on it.
Make sure you research performance of the parts you get userbenchmark is how i would build a new pc. It'll even tell yiu the best value parts.
use PC part picker dot com
it will help you keep track of what parts you're getting and tell if there's incompatability issues, it even estimate wattage for you.
watch some videos on youtube for how to assemble each part; the CPU pins are fragile so be careful with that part and make sure to "ground" your screwdriver before putting anything together. It's pretty simple to put it together yourself but it never hurts to make sure it's done correctly.
install necessary drivers for your computer to function then use the website ninite to download all the useful programs you'll need at once, there's a small program called speccy that will show you all the parts in your computer and the temperatures
I've built a couple dozen computers and the process can be streamlined pretty easily, even for a novice. It's really not hard you just have to bear in mind the parts are expensive so be confident that you're doing the right thing and don't plug it in or turn it on unless you're confident it's all wired up correctly.
gpu scalping and mining ended last year when ethereum stopped relying on mining, everything's available everywhere now.
still at moronic inflated prices since nvidiamd are gonna try to keep riding the gravy train as long as they can, but they'll have to do better soon. current gen GPUs are selling like shit.
We're gonna go back to GPU's being scalped because of he AI meme. Next year or two AMD is gonna release an cpu with integrated graphics comparable to the 6700xt (40 CUs but RDNA3) and it's gonna cannibalize the low and high end, that's partly why they decided to scale back the radeon division and not compete with nvidia at the high end, they also didn't want to compete with themselves.
6700xt is still going to be the minimum needed for 1080p, anyway. Soon you'll need 7900xt minimum for 1440p, and 4090 minimum for 4k.
We're only seeing the very beginning of the shit show that is current gen requirements. Couple that with every dev team being incompetent diversity hires trained by "Game Developer Schools" and we're heading into a shitstorm.
A 6700xt as backup integrated graphics would be fricking sweet. I'd actually bother using my mobo's hdmi for a separate screen. Frick, that would change the landscape entirely, because every budget build would just go AMD and forgo a dedicated gpu entirely, and of course people who value performance would be forced to pay the nvidia tax. It really does look like AMD and Nvidia are colluding.
AMD is doing it to count their CPUs as GPUs since all their CPUs will have built-in GPUs.
Thus bringing up their marketshare numbers.
It's genius, really.
The current 'high'end' AMD iGPU is the 780M which with the right RAM is about as good as a mobile 1650ti or almost reaching RX 560 levels which will let you play MOST current games at acceptable resolutions.
Make sure you're getting the new shit rather than more shit. 32gb of DDR3 is still outdated. Also, from scratch I think prebuilts are actually cheaper. Everyone always tries to cook the cost when they post builds but you need a monitor, you need a case, you need a keyboard and mouse...
It's pretty easy
Just make sure you have a ton of space available
I unpacked all the items at the beginning the last time I did it and had to repackage some stuff like the GPU/COOLER/ETC
Follow guides on how to screw stuff in.
Install Gentoo wiki used to have a really good written guide on installing computer parts.
I took the risk and upgraded with used parts. Here's what I found >ram is perfect >gpu is perfect, the mining burning them out meme is not real it's the same type of load you get from just gaming. I've never had a GPU burn out on me since I give it proper airflow. >cpu is great >avoid motherboards and obviously don't get SSDs
Monitors are probably good too.
Eh it depends on whether you have the right tools or not. I assume you're not a moron and you won't frick up by ordering the wrong parts, like an intel CPU for an AMD socket, a weak power supply, a GPU too large for your case, etc.
Assuming you did everything right, it's still tricky. >most things are tiny, especially utility pins like the one to turn the PC on and you have to carefully read the manual >you have to watch out for static electricity, I suggest grounding + a bracelet >don't use too much thermal paste >cable management becomes a huge pain in the ass as you add more and more components >installing an M.2 SSD requires you to screw in the tiniest fricking screw I've ever seen
and if you leave it for last like I did, you'll have to hold the drive in place while trying to fit your fingers through very cramped space
It's doable, but I always dread opening the case whenever I upgrade my PC. >inb4 some c**t working at a PC shop telling me how easy it is
yeah sure if you do it 10 times a week it's easy, the problem is that a normal person does it what, one or two times a year? it's not enough to gain expertise
m2 screw is not tiny
"normal" people use craptops or premades
assembling pc is easy if you aren't a double digit iq mutt
literally no sane person diddles with pc every fricking year
You people are so incapable it blows me away.
Multiple people saying they are scared of putting a PC together, other people espousing learned helplessness, and one person saying prebuilts are a wise use of money.
How do you people even live?
>5-8 years >doubles the time in his head
Wew I guess it's true when they say people with autism struggle with executive functions like time management.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bg6RBL
$1450 for a beastmode 1440p machine. If that's too pricy for you, downgrade the CPU to a 7600x and the GPU to a 6700xt to game at 1080p instead for $400 less.
Literally connecting legos.
This is the worst that can happen:
Not having the right matching parts but that is very unlikely, like buying a motherboard with an intel socket for a AMD CPU or vise versa. Or having RAM that does not match or having ram at different clock speeds, the later is just a bottleneck since the fastest ram will try to match the slowest one. Or buying a power supply that does meet the power requirements of your parts.
Not being properly discharged and accidentally destroying a component through static. Just touch the power supply before hand or try to ground yourself before handling any parts. Again very unlikely this will ever happen and I have seen people be super paranoid about it and buy mats and shit.
Applying the thermal grease / paste like a moron and even that is somewhat difficult to frick up, since it is the first time you are going to do it, expect a few air bubbles which is just a few temp degrees extra and even that is not a big deal.
Connecting the molex connectors wrong, that can frick up your case lights and other crap so be extra careful plugging things in.
Screwing things too tight, HDD, SDD etc etc.
Placing the GPU before the M.2, again that is not even an issue just take the GPU out and put the stick in.
I don't know what was going on in March, but you can get a Cobratype with same CPU, GPU more ram, and a less ancient hard drive for less than half that at Newegg right now.
>buy a screwdriver both philip and flathead >most products come with velcro straps/ties >less than a 10% chance of something being dead on arrival and I'm being generous to you its mostly a 1% issue >troubleshooting is a natural part of owning a computer >quite literally touch a pipe connected to your bathroom on the ground floor you lose your static charge instantly
Been building PCs for a quarter of a century, since I was 10 years old. Hell, technically 8 years old by that was under supervision from my father. If a 10 year old child can do it, so can you.
Pick a case big enough for your pieces, then you take a motherboard and slam a CPU on that shit, (remember to put gaming mayo on the CPU), then you take your GAMER card and slam that shit in the motherfrick too, take a power source and connect that junk to the motherhood, you take your RAM stick and stick them into the motherofgod, then you connect the fans to the motherbread too, you take all the cables and shove them somewhere into the case, then you press the power button, boot the peecee bios and install Windows OS with a USB, no other option, the other OS fricking suck ass, eat shit linuxgays, and just like that your PC should be catching fire and breaking down because you didn't put enough gaming mayo into your CPU, enjoy.
Absolutely mind broken and seething.
Don't be this anon. When you think you're in a bad spot in life, just refer to this post and you should feel better.
>Absolutely mind broken, as you pay more for less
Are you fricking moronic? You paid more for a shittier cpu, ram and 8gb gpu.
Like holy frick dude this is actually sad.
>Still continues to embarass himself. >6.5%
Try 40% instead, most prebuilts especially Alienware have the cheapest cooling for the CPU/PC so they end up reaching past 100 degrees and wearing down your already cheap prebuilt parts.
>it's okay that I get stuttering and and subpar performance and that I have a bottleneck heavy enough to give me 40% less performance out of my GPU
The absolute cope
>W-W-W-WAIT WHAT YOU MEAN I'M THE ONE PAYING MORE Y-Y-Y-YOU ARE
Call yourself a stupid b***h
Something isn't seated right.
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No matter what copeium you post you will always be wrong about this.
Baring extremely rare circumstances it's always a better choice to build your own computer.
>y-y-ou're coping
I said do one 2 years back during the height of the crypto mining.
You can't, of course if you compare a 2 year old PC to a recent one the recent shit will be cheaper, dipshit.
Holy shit, what a fricking moron.
>better GPU
No, 8gb is actually pretty bad. 12gb is good VRAM. You're already obsolete but paid top dollar.
And again your ram and cpu are bottle necking the shit our of your system. Having a 3070 doesn't magically make your pc run at peak 3070 performance. I shouldn't have to explain this, but you've demonstrated how abysmally moronic you are.
>corporations don't make individual parts >I-I-I-I'M FIGHTING THE MAN SPENDING MORE ON INDIVIDUAL PARTS
You are unironically a fricking slave and a moron.
>Ummm sweaty, what universe do you exist in where majority of shit isn't made by China and other 3rd world shitholes?
Dell and HP in particular use proprietary components designed specifically for them to be cheap as shit, hard to upgrade, and just plain shit. The prebuilt mobos, cases, and gpus are bellow even the cheapest consumer-grade parts when it comes to functionality, performance, and cooling. Those generically branded gpus stripped from prebuilt pc's are loud as mother fricker and still throttle because the cooling solution is ass.
>Those generically branded gpus stripped from prebuilt pc's are loud as mother fricker and still throttle
They don't throttle, then again you're the type of person that panics the moment his GPU breaks 60 degrees, fricking moron even when they are rated to operate safely at 90+ degrees.
Just buy the individual parts and just pay some autist to build it for you. You then get the quality of a custom build with the convenience of not having to build it yourself. >but the building part is fun
It was fun when I was 21. Now I'm 36 and free time is a premium. The 2-8 hours of my free time I spend building a computer and setting it up are 2-8 hours I'm not playing video games.
You unironically get a worse deal when you buy individual and its equally as autistic just looking for each individual part.
>They don't throttle
They do, but you don't game hard enough to notice. >then again you're the type of person that panics the moment his GPU breaks 60 degrees
Are you idling at 60 just browsing Ganker right now? lmao.
Idiots like him is how I make my money, unironically. I've sold 5 prebuilt PCs at 4k$ that cost 3k$ in retail parts (slightly less for me) in the last week.
I am not even joking, it started as a joke, ended up as a real thing. The money people will give you for 2 velcro straps and a shitty corsair AIO (don't buy those btw ever, even the 3x120 ones) is insane.
Really tempted to start doing this myself. Props if you’re not lying anon
Damn, id like to try that but I'm not in a position to take the hit if it doesn't sell in my area
How do you sell them? Craigslist? Or do you take orders?
It's not as simple as it sounds, while I am a 'solo' operation, I piggybacked off of my dad's small repair shop (for the parts logistics) and while they are 'prebuilt' they are mostly custom and not a specific template. You know how some brands have like a 'premium' badge? I'm that guy. Most of the PCs are actually last/current gen parts and not shitty prebuilt deals, I just put an insane mark up and people buy them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I see, extra validity of a real shop. People definitely do flip computers solo though so might be worth a shot
9 months ago
Anonymous
The shop is small enough so it doesn't matter, you think it does, but it really doesn't. The only time they see the shop is the branded bags or when I had them the warranty papers (which is straight up the parts order I put in most of the time). I have my shit on grey market sites mostly.
I actually detach myself from the shop as much as I can so I can shill my father's store for service and etc. The only real 'use' I get out of it is distributor prices for parts (which are AT MOST 5% cheaper so eh).
>labor costs >he doesn't know pre builts are all factory fricking made >he doesn't know companies get huge discounts thanks to their bulk buying >he doesn't know anything about the economics of it
>proceeds to spout dumb shit
Yeah I'm thinking this is a Ganker post.
building it yourself will always be cheaper, that's an irrefutable fact because prebuilts include labor and other bullshit in the price. If you get the same exact parts (including the shitty mobo and cooler and whatever else they skimped on), buying individual parts will always be cheaper. I also cannot fathom why you're dickriding prebuilts this hard. Are you that technologically illiterate, are a you shill from a company or do you work for one? It's genuinely baffling that you're shitting on the doing it yourself method. Do you never repair anything yourself? Do you just toss and buy a new one or get it to a repair shop that scams you out the ass? Either that or very weak and moronic bait
>building it yourself will always be cheaper
This is wrong, 100% wrong in every conceivable way.
Pre builts are FACTORY MADE, as in they are built via a fricking conveyor built and are mass produced.
Items are bought in BULK, which means the cost of building their PC is FAR less than what you are paying for yours.
>Conveyer belt.
No son, it was a Chinese woman in her 50s who put your computer together on a table and then had it packaged to little Timmys such as yourself.
>Pre builts are FACTORY MADE, as in they are built via a fricking conveyor built and are mass produced.
this is simply false, they buy parts and have regular dudes build them, do you think a conveyor belt is gonna do intricate cable management, or get in deep nooks and crannies for screws. There are companies that rely heavily on machines but most ones use humans
Not quite. The parts go down belts and people shove them together. Fair chance your CPU doesn't have any thermal paste on it nor even had the plastic sticker removed because some illegal immigrant hiding out in a Chinese factory just wanted to keep his boss happy by getting as much done per hour as he could
>all this prebuilt nonsense
do you people realize it's 2023 and there are hundreds of dedicated stores to buy prebuilts or simply pay an extra fee for someone to assemble the parts you've picked? nobody buys prebuilts from walmart
Walmart and Amazon are the largest sellers of prebuilt PCs just like Walmart and Amazon are the number one sellers for books. People don't go to speciality stores anymore, and if they do, they are probably smart enough to buy parts and just need confidence.
I made this thread just looking for PC building advice but some homosexual has to go off topic to justify his purchase. Thanks to the anons who actually helped out though, I see no reason to keep this thread alive any longer.
Now do one 2 years ago during the height of the crypto mining.
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Then you would think you'd be smart enough not to be moronic, but I guess just because you're smart enough to buy pre built you're not smart enough to think beyond that.
[...] >you paid more for a better gpu!!!11
Yeah I did, homosexual.
No matter what copeium you post you will always be wrong about this.
Baring extremely rare circumstances it's always a better choice to build your own computer.
Beat my wife. Then I reseat the RAM and ask myself why I bought a motherboard with less than 4 eggs/stars for reviews, or look up to see if my motherboard requires a bios update to support the CPU I put in.
Double check i plugged the cpu to power, then double check i actually flipped the fricking switch on the PSU. If it doesn't work, i check the BIOS my MOBO shipped with, and if i can update it from a USB stick. If it still doesn't work i shit my pants and cry.
>the entirety of wires
you just plug them into the parts >screwing shit in
you just turn your wrist slightly >doa
rare >dealing with shitty retailers
use a better retailer >never working on the first try taking a couple hours troubleshooting
not if you do it right >static electricity
use a flat surface, not your carpet. tap the screwdriver on some metal before you use it >cpu
don't have parkinsons and you're good >horrible crunching sounds
????? >screws falling in the deepest darkest crevice
don't drop them
I built my first PC when I was 12 years old(1998). You got this. Just check a Youtube tutorial and take your time. Don't wimp out and have someone build it for you(or buying a prebuilt). It's very good experience to make your own and very satisfying.
xbox can't play emulators, or koikatsu, or generate AI slop, or play obscure shit only released on PC.
you don't have a choice in frame rate when it comes to games
the devs only give you a option if they want
do you want to play at 30 fps?
do you want to play shitty modern games?
okay, but if I don't care about that autistic shit and just want to play games?
you don't have a choice in frame rate when it comes to games
the devs only give you a option if they want
do you want to play at 30 fps?
do you want to play shitty modern games?
Worst part is cable management. >I don't have a gpu, and my storage is m.2
Like 90% of what's annoying about building a computer doesn't apply to you then.
why are you gays so obnoxious? just do whatever you want and let other people live their fricking lives
if you like to buy prebuilts, buy prebuilts
if you want to assemble everything by yourself, great, have fun
if you want to choose the components but have someone else put them together, perfect
you gays need to chill
if you have your own reasons to do whatever it is you're doing, great but why do you care so much about other people?
Blame the build it yourself autists.
They are next level insecure.
They WANT to believe that because they put more effort, more work when it comes to their PC that they MUST be getting a better deal, right, RIGHT?!?!
If the consumer does more work it means they just have to be getting the better deal.
But sadly that isn't true and they can't wrap their heads around it.
And so they sperg out violently.
>OH MY GOSH YOU BUY FOOD AT THE SUPERMARKET?!? >YOU DON'T GROW YOUR OWN STUFF?!? >BRO ITS SOOO EASY, JUST PLANT THE SEEDS AND WATER THEM LOL >BRO, JUST GET A COW AND BREED THEM, ITS LIKE INFINITE FOOD LOL IMAGINE BUYING FOOD
Unironically every troony I've seen was super autismal when it came to PCs.
What is it with trannies and their autismal fixation with PCs?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You have it backwards. Autists love PCs, trannies are 6-10x more likely than the general population to be autistic. You should be asking why autists are trooning out.
Autists love PCs because they’re highly structured, complex, yet finite systems.
>sane rational human being >endless cope >NOOOO I'M NOT THE moron YOU'RE HTE moron >for not being able to put in parts that were literally made for kids to put together >BUT NOOO THE COMPUTER PARTS A COMPLICATED
>sane and rational >bought a Pre-built that is still $300 overpriced 2 years later >sperging out the entire thread when they get called out on their bottlenecked toaster with flame decals >still won't tell people the brand/model of their Pre-built so they can see what the stats of their gimped GPU is
>bought a Pre-built that is still $300 overpriced 2 years later
>he says this when every 3k card ALONE was selling for $1k+
Ummm sweaty, I don't even think you were alive 2 years ago, don't ever talk to me again you toddler.
You have it backwards. Autists love PCs, trannies are 6-10x more likely than the general population to be autistic. You should be asking why autists are trooning out.
Autists love PCs because they’re highly structured, complex, yet finite systems.
>You should be asking why autists are trooning out
Probably has to do with all the microplastics they ingest from building their PCs.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Probably has to do with all the microplastics they ingest from building their PCs.
Sounds like you're speaking from experience considering you're still avatar gayging as a tranime girl that you desperately want to be.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>buying a 3k card during a price hike when you could have just got an AMD card for a fraction of the price >being elitist over a prebuilt that struggles to play games at 1080p
I'm sorry you wasted your birthday money. Post your hands.
So? Why do you care? If they're scams get on with it and sell them as a side hustle or something. You're annoying. People telling other people what to do come off as obnoxious gays, like christians, mormons or vegans
I build for my friends and colleagues when they mention buying a PC. You're the one coming into a thread from a user that wanted to build a PC and getting annoyed that people that build PCs are in the thread.
>go on PC part picker >okay lets start with the CPU >given literally thousands of options >no idea what these 10 long digits on any of these fricking things mean >no idea what the actual performance of anything is, or what it says in the blurb about it's "features" even means >give up
I hate using my steam deck as a desktop but I just can't handle this fricking shit
I don't have a functioning enough brain to have the patience to deal with this
the most important are the first digits, in intel cpu you can choose between i3 (entry level), i5 (mid level), i7 (high level), i9 (i cum money or will be using pc for very high end production)
https://www.pcmag.com/news/no-more-i3-i5-i7-intels-overhauling-how-it-names-its-desktop-and-laptop >will not be retrofitted to existing chips >will be core 3, 5, 7, 9 >will be core ultra which is like k vs non k (im just guessing) with higher performance
i dont know why they are making a change
buy or pirate the comptia study guide, its a thousand page book but you can just read the parts regarding pc components.
>reading
this is where I give up
I don't even have the attention span to watch anime or play video games what makes you think I'm going to read a fricking school textbook on computer jargon
I9-9900k is mine and essentially that means it's an i9 tier processor. Making it high end, and it's the 9th generation, and is the 900 model. As for the letters K means unlocked for overclocking, H is for high performance graphics (integrated. Will NOT boost your GPU), and T is for general desktop use efficiency, and U means it's optimized for power saving performance (laptop CPU).
it's not that hard. Those are naming schemes and are very easy to understand, for example >Intel Core i7-13700K >Intel means it's made by intel (duh) >i7 is the brand modifier, higher means better (assuming they're in the same generation)
, the 13 is the generation, higher is better >K, the last letter at the end indicates the processor's ability (U is for powerefficient laptops and can't be overclocked iirc, K means it's unlocked and can be overclocked etc)
Just google "X naming schemes" and replace X with intel,amd or nvidia
If you are afraid of being overwhelmed get a fully modular psu and m.2 drive. These will significantly lower the amount of wires you have to work with.
It's a bit stressful, but I find it fun. Parts are far more durable than new builders realize and that it takes quite a bit to actually break something.
You'll still run into things that will make you heart skip a beat, like when I built my AM5 PC and had no idea that the initial boot would take ages due to it doing memory training or something, which led me to believe I fricked up until the post screen came up.
here's a flow chart I made concerning this question that should is comprehensive enough to solve not only your question but everyone else who will ever ask this question
NTA but you could try taking orders without having any inventory. Just tell them there's going to be a short delay. If you don't live in the middle of nowhere you can order all the components and have them in your doorstep by the next day.
depends on use case right now, but 16GB will not be viable for long i think.
i played ToTK on yuzu with dynamic fps and 4k mods and the emulator would freeze my computer sometimes when a ton of stuff happened on screen and when i shut the emulator down. turns out my 16GB of RAM plus 8GB swap file didn't cut it. put in two more ram sticks and it all works perfectly, and i can now see the fricking emulator uses nearly 30 gigs by itself when playing the game in 4K.
The hardest part isn’t the assembly, it’s getting full compatibility
I used a part picker to build my first custom built and it said everything was compatible, and then it blew up because the power supply was wrong
Hardest part of building a PC is trying to figure out how much pressure is needed to push certain things on and the stress that develops if it doesn't turn on correct the first time. Then you just google what's wrong and you'll eventually fix it.
the manual for your case and motherboard have literally everything you have to know in like 20 different languages
besides that the only hard part is having compatible RAM/motherboard/CPU, but google can easily help you nowadays instead of just trial and error like back in the ol' cowboy days
so yeah, it is really not hard at all and everyone that tries to tell you that is either mentally moronic or has 2 left hands
I would personally go 750-850 for the PSU. They loser effectiveness over time and sometimes your PC will need more power than normal. Better to just have a buffer considering how little price difference is between 600-850
do you people realize it's 2023 and there are hundreds of dedicated stores to buy prebuilts or simply pay an extra fee for someone to assemble the parts you've picked? nobody buys prebuilts from walmart
>nobody buys prebuilts from walmart
boomers buy prebuilts from wal-mart for their kids unfortauntely.
Imagine paying 1200 dollars for a 12th gen i5 and a 1660 super lmao
People who don't fricking care and just need a computer will buy from Walmart or Bestbuy. People still value the ability to go to the store and get it immediately.
>nerds on the internet tell me to avoid prebuilts >okay whatever >put all the shit I need in the shopping basket >realize it's only like 30 bucks cheaper than a prebuilt
I'd rather pay 30 bucks to some geek to do it for me. Why does this upset you homosexuals so much?
Then how do prebuilt companies like Alienware turn a profit if their only getting 30 bucks per build? Might have something to do with you being a moron.
I have a tested IQ of 138.
Sorry I value my time more than money. Have fun thinking you're hot shit for doing the equivalent of stacking Lego blocks lmao.
Okay dumbfrick. Would you rather live one more year with a billion dollars, or live your life until you die of cancer or some shit?
I seriously don't care about money so long as I have a roof above my head and food in my belly. If you truly care about money so much you're just a materialist unworthy of my time.
>I seriously don't care about money so long as I have a roof above my head and food in my belly.
Ok so you're a worthless NEET, good for you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I am a NEET. Only a fool would contribute to a decaying society.
>wagie thinks he can still shame me into being a ''leech'' when the world is in its current state
Holy frick lol.
See you around, wagie. Have fun ''retiring'' when you are too old to enjoy life.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao that is hilarious, I feel sorry that your parents have to put up with such a parasite. You remind me of the Black folk at my old job who would be in their late 20s and still didn't even have their drivers license.
9 months ago
Anonymous
But you have no retirement at all? The frick?
You can't buy a house. You can't even buy a car. No credit, no anything.
>realize it's only like 30 bucks cheaper than a prebuilt
prebuilts are notorious for skimping on everything besides the GPU and CPU. You're not only saving 30 bucks, but you're getting a better MOBO, a better PSU, almost certainly better ram because prebuilts never tell you the speed and usually just tell you the amount, and the amount of prebuilts that give single channel ram is nutty. Plus by putting it together you learn how to build, and by proxy, take apart, your computer. Eventually you're going to need to replace a part either for repair or upgrading, and it's invaluable experience.
You're paying less money for a better product and building a better foundation for your experiences on this platform. >Why does this upset you homosexuals so much?
No one is upset you bought a prebuilt like a dummy, we'll just laugh and call you a moron. We get upset when you go around telling other people to buy prebuilts because you're harming other peoples experiences.
besides the GPU and CPU.
They skimp on everything including those, if you're getting lets say a 3080 in a prebuilt, you can guarantee it will be worse than the FE version. Alienware has tailor made small GPU versions that run about as good as 80% of the real thing like laptop GPUS but they will still advertise it as being a 3080.
how is liquid cooling? I have calculated prices and found them to be superior to the good ole air cooling. I am a bit hesitant to get some though, I have never had any experience with them and screwing up might cause some real damage.
Not really worth it. You still have to air-cool the GPU unless you splurge on an expensive watercooling setup, and most water coolers just move heat to a heatsink that gets air-cooled. It looks cool, and I plan to do a full custom loop next year, but it's really not a necessity.
They look cool, but that’s about it. Noctua air coolers work just as well and will last for ten years + the company is nice if you ask for new mounting brackets and stuff
custom loops are silly complicated and the difference is negligible. Usually only for people who actively enjoy just messing around with their computer. High end air coolers like Noctua's are fricking great though and in my experience has been silent as hell. If you're just worried about making sure your shit stays cool, I'd suggest either that or a nice AIO.
>how is liquid cooling?
Don't bother, air cooling has progressed to the point you can get super capable double tower coolers for half the price of the cheapest AIO, and there's no risk of your shit leaking onto your components.
Don't let these anons make you feel bad, you should actually buy a pre built, just make sure you know whats INSIDE them. Very fricking important, you sometimes get a better deal buying a pre built than making it yourself. Pre-built meme came from morons just buying one with the coolest looking case but comes with a stock fan.
I guess my MB is R.I.P. after 8 years.
Thinking about replacing it and getting a new CPU (i5 13400F). I'll keep the rest of the hardware since I don't actually play any demanding games.
What is a serviceable Motherboard these days for 100 bucks?
>bought prebuilt back in 2018 because I know frickall about computer components and I can't be assed wasting money if I frick something up >still serves me extremely well today >no crashes >no overheating >able to play a vast majority of games on the highest graphics with little frame drops >recently got fiber so everything is even faster now
So what are the downsides of prebuits exactly?
most of the time it boils down to potentially saving money and shoddy QA (depends on the company) if it works and price isn't an issue, it really doesn't matter, GamersNexus has a whole series on shitty prebuilts
The downside is that you get some Ganker autist with his build a bear workshop certificate telling you how the PC you bought in 2018 is trash cuz he can build a cheaper one in 2023.
There are no downsides besides extra costs. I have had 3 prebuilts so far and I have had ZERO issues, while my elitist IT friend who always builds his own shit always has problems with his PC.
They cost more. Building computers takes time. In any decent computer shop you can also pick the parts yourself and purchase building+testing as a service. Might be worth it if you want older gen mobo with new processor and would need to upgrade bios before it supports the new processor etc.
They will not build ”prebuilt” for free. They’ll just put a little cheaper and lower quality psu, memory, m2 ssd or something. Also prebuilts often come with windows, for which you pay 100 euros extra compared to just buying it for 5 euros ”aftermarket” from some student Black person who generated free keys for his university.
The only situation when prebuilts are a viable option is if they’re ”used” stock sold off after they’d been built for some LAN event or computer fair. Or if they’re sold by morons mispricing them.
If you bought your own food you would know that inflation is real and that there is nothing special about the PC hardware market. Like yea there was that crypto and chip shit but it's healed now. It's just that because the only things you buy are games you think that inflation isn't real. Like it's actually weird how they've been 60 for so long. Meanwhile I go buy pizza and it's 20% more expensive than it was just 5 (five) years ago.
TFW, 3rd worlder, stuck with a Dell Optiplex 7010 with a Intel i7 3770, 16GB DDR3 RAM and GTX1650 Super SFF. I want to jump on a newer platform but prices are israeliteed up.
Guess I will conform with this chinessium crap, add a US$20 512GB M2 SSD, and put these parts on a Micro Tower PC Case, keep the GTX 1650 and my 2TB mechanical HDD.
I remember when I built my first computer
such a fricking pain in the ass and it's not worth it
would rather pay a premium and get a nice laptop that I can game with or read/watch stuff with in bed or on the couch
desktops are for teenagers and people in their early 20's
When you're a child it's fine not knowing anything but by the time you're an adult man you should really know how to plug in a ram stick, change a tire, I mean come on do you pay someone when your fire alarm starts chirping?
It literally doesn't, you're a fricking moron.
If you bundle economics with politics you're a grade A dipshit, not surprised coming from a build the bear workshop kiddo who just HAS to build his PC.
OP I built mine in December and I would consider myself a fricking moron when it comes to anything mechanical. I watched a youtube guide and took my sweet time with it, for me I took a whole weekend and took it slow because I had the time. I ended up bending a little bit of my noctua cpu cooler on the edge but it didnt affect anything.
I played some heavy metal music and finished within an hour. I had to use a compatibility bracket to mount my (new at the time) AM4 cpu to the fan. It was a b***h but i figured it out
prebuiltgays remind me of the people who don't know how to pump their own gas >wtf thats too complicated >what if something goes wrong and catches fire? >takes too long, let a professional do it
What's the best compact GPU for a Microtower Case? I'm aiming at 1080p, also I'm not interested in recent AAA games, since they are full of progressive trash.
I bought the parts to put one together, but didn't realize the mobo was a dud until everything was connected but the PSU didn't spin on. Had to disconnect everything, test the PSU using the paperclip method, and send in the mobo for RMA. I also had to purchase a new tube of thermal paste and protective adhesive washers for the AIO cooler mobo mount since I can't detach the original ones from the old mobo. Feels bad man.
Not the least bit hard, I built my first one when i was like 13 years old (15 years ago)
Building newer PCs is even easier, they're just big legos, and things can only fit into a single slot so its obvious where it goes
If you're unsure then read the manuals, or just open youtube and type in "how to install <part X> in computer"
I'm moronic and did it in 7 hours with a youtube guide
It's literally Legos for adults. If I can do it anon you can. Just watch a bunch of videos beforehand and don't be stupid.
i was never good at legos though, i just fricked around with the minifigures
You can watch a video guide and try to build at your own pace. Just be careful to not put any moron strength when placing some components and you should be fine.
Yeah, pretty much this. The only requirement is to be into this. In my opinion, the hardest part of pc building is to find the proper parts to fit your budget.
its not hard, but if something is broken its kinda tricky to tell what part. get some virgin at a store to do it for 30 bucks, you can afford that if you are getting a pc worth buying.
That's what i did, just let someone else who already put together hundreds of custom pc's do it for a few bucks. I'm to scared that i frick something up.
It's like building legos, it's easy peasy
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bY02y4dYAes
It's not hard, but it can exhausting, Youtube is your friend.
I never had to build my pcs, it was always a present and the only time I had to replace something it was a faulty power supply.
extremly hard. dont even try, youll just lose thousands of dollars!!
>scared
Stick to pre-builts.
homosexual.
frick you Black person
i already purchased the parts anyway
Then stop being such a pussy
The trick is doing it on a carpet while wearing fuzzy mittens. You want to surround the motherboard with as much static electricity as possible
>static
Is this a meme or is this actually common?
Just ground yourself before touching electronics. If you feel a zap when touching a metal grounded surface, be extra careful and maybe try to figure out where the static buildup is coming from.
I worked at a computer company in the 2000's. One of my jobs was taking processors out of the shipping box and into individual clamshells to take to the build team.
There were failsafes on failsafes to make sure anyone touching those chips were grounded because even a tiny zap you can't feel will ruin it.
It only applies to circuit boards. You can zap a tiny hole into the circuitry that can cause any number of problems at any point in the future, including corrosion that can damage other components. Touch the metal on the powersupply before handling the mobo and only touch the edges of the mobo and youll be fine.
Building pc is VERY easy. Choosing parts for your pc is where it gets hard
Doesn't matter how hard it is, a real man takes on the challenge
Try having a IQ higher than 80. Or stop being black.
>Or stop being black
I probably have a better build than half the people on this board
>OPs parents didn't buy him legos
hi blackbro
what are your specs?
1080p monitor
RX6650XT
Oh right, Ryzen 5 5600G
That build is shit, I mean, the 5600g is a gimped 5600x with half the l3 cache and it can't support PCIe4, and the next step up from the 6650XT is the 6700xt, which moggs it into the stratosphere. Despite that, your build probably is better than half of Ganker, because half of Ganker is pajeet shills that game on scavenged Dell optiplex's from their call center jobs and 6+ year old laptops.
the cable management is going to be the worst part depending on what type of power supply and case you get. it's not hard, but frustrating
also these little frickers
those little sleeves are still so rare its actually amazing those havent become standard.
I lost three fingers building mine.
About as hard and solving those toddler right shape into right hole toys, and you'll need reading comprehension.
Considering average IQ of the Ganker user, you are right to be afraid, just buy a prebuilt you moronic ape.
Buy a prebuilt, its unironically better.
You don't save any money from buying individual parts, Ganker just likes to flex that they enjoy to waste their time connecting bullshit together.
I recently did a quick comparison of buying individual parts as well as windows 11 vs a prebuilt and it was almost half the price
Seems like all you did recently was tell a fricking lie.
Prebuilts and buying individual parts have the same exact price tag.
There is no real difference between the two.
They don't, individual parts sucks ass.
Imagine thinking you're betetr off buying multiple little products, waiting for them all too arrive, THEN having to put them all together is somehow better than just buying a complete package.
I know you're a stupid autismal b***h, so just say so.
But learn that isn't something to be proud of, dipshit.
anon you are moronic. you think a profit margin of 0 is going to keep prebuild companies afloat?
>proft margin of 0
?????
You think buying individual parts gives them a profit margin of 0???
Are you fricking moronic?
Buying individual parts by that logic means its actually PRICIER, same as how buying bulk is always cheaper than just going out buying individual parts.
You're a fricking moron that doesn't know how companies fricking work.
>Pre-built uses lower quality parts
And so do you if you want to keep costs extra low to match the price point of prebuilts otherwise your shit is going to be more costly than a prebuilt you fricking dipshit.
Find me a Pre-built that matches this, Anon, or even one close for $1582.97 or less.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDMMqm
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDMMqm
I found 30
Post even one of them then
the scariest part of that entire list to me is that I bought that exact same cooler in 2016 for 25 dollars. It has quite literally doubled in price Unless I got a slightly different version but I'm pretty sure I got that exact model.
Nah, it's the same for me. Metal prices have gone up, and so did demand for that specific cooler since watercooling became less popular. It's natural that it hiked.
I don't disagree but
>16 core i7
>32gb ram
>just a 3060
Priorities anon.
People who praise building your own PC are homosexuals who unironically don't understand jack shit about PC.
These are the homosexuals who flip shit that their GPU or CPU is hitting 80 and think they now have to resort to water cooling because their little game heats up their parts a tad bit and how if they aren't at negative 100 degrees their parts will now melt.
These are the homosexuals who run around with shit like 64gb of ram thinking their games need it.
?????
I literally bought a prebuilt last year with a 3070 for that price point.
What the frick?
That isn't even a 3060ti.
>Proud of being scammed.
Imagine being this moronic.
Fricking post it, homosexual. Let me see the specs and price. Otherwise you're talking out of your ass and realized that you don't understand hardware as well as you thought you did.
The price you kiddo.
Why are you hiding the brand and model?
>already an inferior CPU right out the gate
>8gb 3070
>that ram
>that CPU
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>worse CPU
>half the RAM
Anon...
>$1600 for an:
>i7
>cheap chinese 16gb ram sticks with low Hz.
>Only 1 TB SSD
>Cheap ass power supply and cooling that will eventually brick the motherboard.
>The motherboard is probably some cheap shit from 30 years ago just like how they add them in Alienware prebuilts.
HOLY SHIT, you got MEGA SCAMMED. Did you just look at the GPU before you decided to buy this? You are a fricking moron and deserve to lose your money.
>cheap chinese 16gb ram sticks with low Hz.
He probably only got 1 stick, too. lol.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Qp8dH
Built your PC for $300 cheaper using comparable parts, and even included Windows 11 in the price.
Now do one 2 years ago during the height of the crypto mining.
Then you would think you'd be smart enough not to be moronic, but I guess just because you're smart enough to buy pre built you're not smart enough to think beyond that.
>you paid more for a better gpu!!!11
Yeah I did, homosexual.
>better GPU
No, 8gb is actually pretty bad. 12gb is good VRAM. You're already obsolete but paid top dollar.
And again your ram and cpu are bottle necking the shit our of your system. Having a 3070 doesn't magically make your pc run at peak 3070 performance. I shouldn't have to explain this, but you've demonstrated how abysmally moronic you are.
It's a prebuilt so you can guarantee even the 3070 put in is the cheapest one available that they could find, even worse than the Founder's Edition.
Anon, you put racing tired on a 4 cylinder engine and swear it runs faster than a V6 with standard tires.
>2 years ago during a crypto boom
I decided to learn Chinese instead of gaming. So, I wasn't impacted by the boom prices. I just bought a new GPU last week and RAM last year. The specs I posted were because it should be easy to find Pre-built that have "similar specs", but what I have you also has higher clock speeds and VRAM than what you will typically find in a Pre-built.
Here's my machine since it means so much to you.
>650W CPU
you done fricked
I spent the last 10 minutes building a better PC that can run laps around yours, for 50 dollars less, and with none of the parts on sale. If it were close to black Friday or even a month ago durring Prime Day, then I could easily shave off another 100-200 bucks, to either save more money or budget in a 7900XT or much weaker performing 4070 if you absolutely need nvidia for whatever reason. You have no defense.
>teehee
>I just made a cheaper PC than the 2 year old PC you bought
Ummm sweaty, do you need to take your meds?
Like sweaty, are you okay, things age and things get cheaper.
Like, hello?
It's cheaper than the price you gave TODAY. Are you trying to say that your prebuilt was the same price 2 years ago? When are you going to post the model?
Are you stupid?
I bought that PC 2 years AGO.
So of course things will be cheaper, NOW.
That is how technology fricking works, dipshit.
>inflation affects everything equally
Call yourself a stupid b***h.
So did it cost the $1500 2 years ago, or was that the price of it today? What is the fricking model number?
>inflation affects everything equally
It litterally does, are you fricking moronic? Inflation affects price of living, and that translates to everything else being comparatively more expensive, even if sticker price is the same.
Stop telling him this, I am losing customers.
OH MY GOSH BRO, YOU PAID $400 FOR A PS1 DECADES PAST?!?!
BUT I PAID $400 FOR A PS5 I THINK YOU GOT RIPPED OFF!!!11
>I don't know how inflation works
Just say that, moron.
Things don't inflate equally you fricking moron.
don't care still building a pc
>Things don't inflate equally you fricking moron.
When milk, eggs, and gas cost more but your wages are the same, then everything else will "feel" more expensive because your budget is smaller. Things don't need to inflate equally for inflation to make you poor.
Pre builts are LITERALLY mass fricking produced.
Factory fricking made, these morons UNIRONICALLY think there is some tech dudes in a store just building it together.
These morons think that some 80yr old brownie can't do the same shit they are doing in some fricking factory.
>M-M-MUH CABLE MANAGEMENT
Sweaty, you've never been to an actual factory have you?
>everything will "FEEL"
Facts don't care about your feelings sweaty.
Things don't inflate equally, FACT.
Disregard everything I said, I changed my mind and realized I was moronic. Here anime girl as proof.
Bros forgive me but i was wrong. I'm actually crying irl now because i just realized i got scammed and I take back everything I said previously, here's an anime girl to prove it's me.
real
>So of course things will be cheaper, NOW.
>That is how technology fricking works, dipshit.
Nvidia would like to have a word with you. They rebranded their 50 series cards as 60 series and are selling them for 80 series prices.
Blame capitalism.
Companies, farmers...etc do it all the time.
We have the technology to mass produce everything to the point where shit could cost a fricking $1.
But instead we get artificial scarcity so companies can keep overpricing and keep getting global profits while shit is cheaper than ever when it comes to producing thanks to machines now doing 90% of the work and pajeets doing the other 10%.
>capitalism invented greed
>p-p-p-pls don't blame the economic system that literally promote and incentivizes greed
>i-i-i-its everything else's at fault
>Under "Not-Capitalism" everything will be perfect just 'cause!!!!!!
Fricking Alienware lmao.
>Custom mobos with shit performance and terrible ergonomics just so you can't upgrade them
>terrible cases with shit ergonomics and airflow that throttles performance due to thermals
>always uses the worst possible ram
>mystery meat PSU that makes random Pakistani PSUs look like Thermaltake Platinums
>$5000 for i9s with i5 performance
>evertyhing is better under capitalism because....because it just is OKAY?!!?
Better than starving to death because the commissariat killed off the farmers for not being faithful enough to the revolution.
>Better than starving to death
Ummm sweaty, what flyover state do you live at where you don't see a legion of homeless currently starving to death?
none of these people are starving to death. you have to willfully choose to starve to death in this country.
Not my problem.
Oh it's just a gayifornian crying about his shit hole state that exists as a direct result of the terrible policies enacted by politicians he supports. You made your bed, now get fricked in it.
>a problem only known in urban downtown cores
>imply it's the flyover normies who have the problem
Oh I am laughin'
>I just made a cheaper PC than the 2 year old PC you bought
Yes, MUCH cheaper.
This just means your 720p PC was even more overpriced when you got it.
>heh... you guys can't find a cheaper PC than my pre built
>*gets BTFO*
>uhhhh... well this was like 2 years ago so that doesn't count!
lol
>makes shit up
>make a fool of himself
>proceeds to think he's right
Call yourself a stupid b***h and take your meds.
I accept your concession.
>6800xt
I would rather have this than your 3-year-old GPU:
https://www.newegg.com/msi-aegis-r-13nue-458us/p/N82E16883151281
>2.1GHZ CPU
>16GB ram
>with a fricking RTX 4070
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Your CPU is a little better according to Passmark but I am not planning on compiling Google Chrome of Firefox while gaming. The 4070 is flat out better for gaming. I don't want to even think about what Portal RTX would look like on your build.
The 4070 is 30% bottlenecking that CPU. If you built that PC, you could get a 4080, losing the bottleneck entirely, and come up to maybe $100 more, and you would also get better clockspeeds on the RAM.
All that being said, the CPU is great for modern games, but anything that isn't optimized to utilize the cores and threads is going to struggle to run.
woah! what a piece of shit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GGGqsh
same specs $400 less
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GGGqsh
I don't know about that $20 fan. Also no operating system. I'm guessing you're planning on getting Windows Bitcoin miner edition from piratebay. Other than that it seems like a good build, but not saving much compared to the prebuilt. Also, 1600 - 1400 = $200 savings, not 400. I would still rather get the prebuilt.
>no operating system
actual normalhomosexual
mmm yes daddy please install bloatware onto my pc, i wouldn't care to pirate windows for free
>1600
check what the original price is dumbass
Crying more will not convince me to get your shit build.
holy cope
>i build my own PCs so i can use $20 fans
Good for you, champ.
explain why that's bad
I've made that mistake before along with cheap PSUs. Playing AAA on Ultra settings for extended periods especially during summer is asking for sudden restarts or shutdowns.
You can literally just take your old SSD and slap it in to keep your current OS, or just install Linux
Why do you so adamantly hate RAM and VRAM?
Anon, I specifically stated in my post you could swap in a 4070 if you wanted to. Pic related, still $25 dollars cheaper than the shitrig you posted WITHOUT sales, and in every regard it blows it the frick out.
>low-end GPU
>most powerful gaming CPU on the market
troll thread
>ryzen 7 7800
>most powerful on the market
it's high end anon but let's not get stupid here
For gaming the 7800X3D is the most powerful cpu period. For people with money that want to maximize current performance then they'd go with the 7800x3d & 4090.
Which goes back to my point. Even the 4090 is not enough to tax high-end CPUs like the 7800X3D. Nor the 13900 for that matter, either.
Windows is free. I've been running Windows 10 without a key for two years now. Every time Windows ask for it, I just tell it to ask me again later. For two years.
You save $25 but you still have no operating system and you have to put all that crap together.
OS is free and putting things together isn't as hard as you think unless you're morbidly obese and moronic which seems to be a lot of Ganker
I have been building PCs for a decade. It's not worth it any more unless I have specific needs like lots of ram to run my own cloud or exotic parts to show off for likes on social media.
Run windows 10 and then use the github script to spoof a key and make it free. Works for windows 11, too. Microsoft does not care, they make their money back anyway collecting your data and shilling their services. You don't enter "bad goy" territory until you try to debloat windows and turn off the telemetry shit.
>7800X3D
Okay.
>paired with 6800xt
Why!?
6800XT is still a beast for 1440p, and godmode for 1080p. When playing at the 1440p sweetspot, it's better to be GPU bottlenecked than CPU bottlenecked, because you don't have to worry about stutters and your lows are good. Also if you have any plan on emulating, then the 7800X3D can boost up to 5ghz on single core workloads, which is more than enough. Down the road you'll also have an easier time selling the GPU to upgrade to something beefier if you feel like games have become too demanding.
Your 6800XT will not see a single benefit from being paired to the 7800X3D. Even the 4090 struggles to see any major boost from it.
About the best you can benefit from in terms of emulation is getting an extra 30FPS in RPCS3 for RDR2. That's it. A game that already runs at 60FPS on CPUs half as powerful under Xenia.
I use my 6800 xt for 2160p and still get 100+fps. I don't get why people say it can't do above 1080p
This is incredibly stupid. You could have gotten a 7700x for almost half the price of a 7800x3d and upgraded the gpu to something better like a 7900xt or even an xtx.
7800X3D is overkill, anyway. Nothing out now really takes advantage of it. If anything you're bottlenecking the CPU with that thing.
It's always funny when people go overkill for the CPU since if you're playing 1080p (which is mainly where the CPU is used over the GPU) then you wouldn't need that much power in the first place.
Not necessarily. It's just that 1080p has such a low overhead that you can run it at really high refresh, and it's that high refresh that taxes the CPU.
Yes. The 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU on the market.
This is hilarious. Post a benchmark so we can laugh at this absolute Picasso of a machine
In star citizen 64gb of ram has a noticeable frame difference.
Who fricking gives a shit about the most bloated borderline nft game in history
>64gb of ram
It isn't the '90s anymore anon. Even Windows is smart enough now to use unused physical RAM as a disk cache to reduce load times.
You have no idea what you're talking about
Let me explain it more at your level anon.
One day, Mr Operating System was loading graphics for Timmy's favorite game. Mr Operating System noticed that there was a lot of RAM free that wasn't being used by Timmy at the moment. So, Mr Operating System decided to save a copy of the graphics in some of the unused RAM. Later, when Timmy finally beat the level and moved on to the next, the game asked for the graphics again. Because game developers also go on the short bus with anon. But, Mr Operating System, being clever, just quickly hands the game the copy he saved in RAM, instead of going to the slow disk to fetch it out again. So Timmy got back to playing his game without so much waiting at the loading screen. The end.
>Because game developers also go on the short bus with anon.
80 Celsius is a cooling issue, but it's probably also unavoidable in a country of brown people like you
>cooling issue
PCs are built to operate just fine on consistent 90+
Frick you mean """cooling issue""".
>inferior CPU
Rather an inferior CPU than a fricking 3060, which is leagues worse than a fricking 3070, homosexual.
What brand and model, kiddo.
You wanted proof there it is, I bought this a year or 2 ago.
Unironically paying the same price as I did for less.
>anons UNIRONICALLY UNIRONICALLY think they need a better cpu/ram
OH NONONONO
>doubling down on buying shit hardware at a high price
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you for the laugh, anon, you dumb bastard. Corporations love people like you.
OH NO BROS, THEY ONLY GAVE ME 16GB RAM WHICH IS ALL YOU NEED TO RUN EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET AND ANY GAME FLAWLESSLY.
OH NO HOW WILL I EVER COPE, DAMN IF ONLY I PURCHASED AN OVERPRICED 3060 WITH MORE RAM!!!
Cope and seethe, unironically prebuilts >>>>> individual parts buying.
You are a fricking joke.
yeah, making money out of thin air!
>avatar gay telling others to buy a prebuilt
how do you know she doesn’t actually look like that?
You have to be underage in order to be this moronic. Did your parents buy that prebuilt for your birthday, lil zoom zoom?
>He's still going
You paid the same price for a good custom PC build for shittier hardware, for no reason other than you being a tech illiterate weeb.
Just leave, anon. We are laughing at you.
80 is the high for safe operating workload.
The shit CPU bottlenecks your GPU by 6.5% at just 1080p. You may as well be using a 3060, but you can always overlock the CPU to fix this.
Your ram is not only half the capacity but it is also half the clockspeed.
I can't comment on the GPU differences in detail without knowing what brand your Pre-built is, but you're already sitting at 8VRAM instead of 12, and I can only assume your clock speeds are lower.
You "paid the same" to get objectively worse performance than what I posted originally.
>80 is the high for safe operating workload
Umm sweaty, since fricking when?
Gpus don't even begin to thermal throttle until they hit 83 by default and they can SAFELY operate at 90 consistently.
>by 6.5%
OH GOD, 6.5%, OH GOD OH NO.
HOLY SHIT, OH GOOD, OH NO, HOW WILL I EVER FRICKING COPE
OH GOD, AGGGGHHHHHH
>Umm sweaty, since fricking when?
>Gpus don't even begin to thermal throttle until they hit 83 by default and they can SAFELY operate at 90 consistently.
Just when I thought this couldn't be more hilarious, he keeps going.
>PCs are built to operate just fine on consistent 90+
They shouldn't.
I try to stay in the 70s while using the GPU, 5s0 while shitposting and such and high 30's while iddle. My ancient 780 still works flawlessly to this day. Temp can degrade your equipment over time.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wDMMqm
>$1600
>Nvidia 3060
No thanks. I can play Starfield for about a $1100 with a 4060 or 3070.
Pre-built uses lower quality parts, and typically skimp out on either the GPU or the CPU, if not both. Sure you can get an i7 and a 2060 for the same price as buying the parts individually, but it'll be a slower i7 and a slower 2060. It'll also have a shitty motherboard that bottlenecks upgrades. Not that the current trend of every new cpu needs a new slot doesn't do the same, but if you switch to Ryzen for CPU this stops being an issue.
Enjoy your $20 case from aliexpress, MOBO only sold in taiwan and brazil, RAM sticks of the same brand but different speed (if they even bother to put more than one stick lmao) and """850W 80+ PLATINUM""" PSU made in pakistan. And even if you get "lucky" and they sell you quality parts (with an inflated price of course), it's still no guarantee that they won't frick it up, i've seen people wonder why their 2k prebuilt sounds like a jet engine or shuts down under load, only to find out that the redditors who put together the thing forgot to remove the little plastic cover in the cooler or outright forgetting to put thermal paste.
>e-e-e-enjoy your low quality parts
Ummm sweaty, what universe do you exist in where majority of shit isn't made by China and other 3rd world shitholes?
Fricking moron.
>MY ONE ANECDOTAL PROOF IS PROOF
Can't count the number of shitters who bought individual parts and end up crying how it doesn't work, now they have to troubleshoot each individual part figure out what is the one causing the problem and ship it back.
If my pre built comes out DOA I ship the whole thing back without having to bust my nuts over it.
Call yourself a stupid b***h.
what a cute boy
>If my pre built comes out DOA I ship the whole thing back without having to bust my nuts over it.
Top kek I can't believe you typed this out.
Guess how many of my custom builds have been DOA? Zero. Because I know my parts and I'm not paying 1600 dollars for a shitty ass NIC, PSU and fans.
And you know how many of my pre builts came out DOA?
ZERO, your point kiddo?
I'm just saying if it DID happen you'd be the one busting your little ol nuts but then again not like a homosexual like you would ever reproduce so you wont have to worry on that part.
I'd rather save money AND time with my prebuilts than playing autism simulator buying individual parts and then connecting them.
Maybe after you grow up you'll realize how stupid you are and how immature you are to think you're some BADASS because you spend more money to do more work.
>t-t-t-there's a huge difference I swear!!!11
>screeching ad hominem post
We broke the weeb, lads. He's melting down.
There's a huge difference between a $20 no-name PSU made in china, and something like a 600W bronze rated corsair, also made in china. Never said chinese parts were inherently bad, yeston for example makes quality GPU's with cute anime girls on them. Prebuilts always skimp out on something, that's their entire business, selling shitty computers to morons that don't know any better and only look at the 4080 it has inside or the flashy case with a frickton of gay lights and glass panel.
>Ummm sweaty, what universe do you exist in where majority of shit isn't made by China and other 3rd world shitholes?
Dell and HP in particular use proprietary components designed specifically for them to be cheap as shit, hard to upgrade, and just plain shit. The prebuilt mobos, cases, and gpus are bellow even the cheapest consumer-grade parts when it comes to functionality, performance, and cooling. Those generically branded gpus stripped from prebuilt pc's are loud as mother fricker and still throttle because the cooling solution is ass.
Prebuilts still suck ass, dude.
The only reason to get one is if it's got a good warranty and you're too moronic to solve any of your own computer problems.
Basically, it's good for boomers and literal morons.
My brother bought a pre-built and his CPU was over heating. Turned out they didn't remove the fricking sticker on the heat sink for the CPU that says "remove me before installing"
Youre a dumb weeb
HA GGAAYYY
Prebuilts suck dick, the only reason you "don't save any money" is because they cheap out on anything that isn't marketable.
They'll proudly boast "WAOW I9-42069, RTX 9999 AND 20 Black personBYTE SSD!!!!!!!!!" and then you open it up to find the PSU is some chink housefire, the SSD is some $20 SATA drive, the RAM is slow, the MB is using a low-end chipset, the CPU is using the stock cooler, etc. etc.
I make a living recycling old PCs and anything that isn't a custom build is like this, whether it's Dell, HP, iBuyPower, or whatever all of them equally suck.
Woah, so like pre builts suck cuz they cheap out on parts people don't give a frick about?!?213
Oh lawd, muh FANS, oh no, my PC parts are hitting 70 degrees even though they can easily manage consistent 90 degrees but I MUST HAVE THEM AT NEGATIVE 30 DEGREES FRICK THEM SHITTY STOCK FANS.
MUH RAM, OH GOD NOT THE RAM!!1111 HOW WILL I COPE WITHOUT MY 12334123213123 GB RAM, HOW WILL I PLAY MY GAMES, OH NO PLS IGNORE THE FACT THAT EVEN MODERN GAMES CAN FUNCTION ON 8GB RAM I NEED MUH UNLIMITED SUPERFAST SPEED RAMMM AHHHHHH
AHHHHHH COMPANIES SUCK LET ME PAY MORE FOR LESS!!!!!
>pay more for less
mouthbreather
>cuz they cheap out on parts people don't give a frick about?!?213
Like the PSU and the RAM. But it has a 4090 and the latest incel processor, and it only cost 4 grand, so it was a good deal!
lol more like
>latest i7!!!
paired with
>entry-level last gen nvidia card!!
>$1800!
or
>latest flagship nvidia card!!!!
paired with
>i9 from 5 generations ago
>$4000!
When I first started I got the first option scenario and upgraded the graphics card a few months later. It wasn't a bad way to start out, but then I realized that the CPU was the shittiest of that line, too. Never again.
A proper way to derail an otherwise baited thread.
lmao what motherboards are you using that don't have a clamp
Increasing world wide tech literacy is about to reach an apex. So much more dangerous than your grandpa not knowing how to send an email.
Just buy the individual parts and just pay some autist to build it for you. You then get the quality of a custom build with the convenience of not having to build it yourself.
>but the building part is fun
It was fun when I was 21. Now I'm 36 and free time is a premium. The 2-8 hours of my free time I spend building a computer and setting it up are 2-8 hours I'm not playing video games.
>8 hours to build a computer
Black person it takes like 1 hour
Yes, if everything goes well. Then sometimes there's a weird error you need to troubleshoot or a part was defective and needs to be sent back or something else happens. Just because a task SHOULD take 1-2 hours doesn't mean it can't end up taking 1-2 days, and after you've been burned enough by that, just paying someone to make the problem go away becomes a lot more reasonable.
>put on an episode of better call saul
>put the legos together
>install drivers
>install programs
>make a snack
all of that is done before the credits roll
don’t buy prebuilts from a store. buy all your parts and pay your local nerd to assemble them. best of both worlds
>buy prebuilt
>you get the worst hard drive, PSU and fan known to man so they can squeeze even more money from you
>even high end prebuilts costing several thousands of dollars can run at 100 degrees centigrade (if over 100 degrees most computers overheat and crash) and that is fine according to them
vs making it yourself
>become knowledgable about pcs
>know what parts go together and how to squeeze out the most power per dollar you have
>can help friends if they have issues
>if your pc starts to have problems, you can most likely fix it yourself because you are the one that built it so if you need to replace the hard drive for example, you know what wires go where so you dont need to bring it to a repair shop
>you save money by making it yourself
>Tranime poster with an objectively false claim
You're a filthy homosexual and a moron
Not hard at all. Especially if you get a water cooler. Easy shmeasy.
Literally simpler than legos.
It's not too hard, if you need to you should refer to a video of someone assembling a pc so you are sure where everything goes. Hardest part of it all is managing the cables though
In theory it's easier than legos but in practice you can frick up many things by using too much force, getting dimensions wrong, or just static electricity bricking everything.
Watch a couple of step by step videos and go slowly.
You will melt your motherboard if you don't put the CPU on right.
Make sure you press it firmly onto the board for proper contact. They're sturdier than they look, so don't worry too much about damaging the pins.
I've been thinking about putting a new one together myself. Some of the current parts are showing their age.
This next time, I'll buy a bigger case.
Look at the size of that Noctua fan. It blocks the ram, so if you want to add more later, the fan has to come apart. Fun, fun, fun.
That's on your for getting a small troony motherboard instead of a ATX
take your meds troony
Pcpartpicker is your best friend. From there, it's plug and play.
Back when Alienware was the only company making gaming PCs, it was possible to save a lot by building your own since you could do things like buy the ugliest case available for $40. Now there is so much competition, there isn't much point especially if you are building something high end that requires water cooling or giga fans.
First you need a table
It's even easier than before.
Wear one of those anti-static wristbands if you're scared of frying something. DON'T STAND ON A FRICKING CARPET. You absolutely can't frick it up, hell , these days they even sell modular/semi-modular PSU's so you can only plug the cables you're going to use and put away the rest.
The CPU, GPU and RAM only fit one way. Screwing the MOBO to the case is not an issue, as the stand-offs are already in place. The PSU if modular has a little manual telling you where each cable goes, but basically you only need 3: the 24 pin (motherboard), the 8 pin (4+4, CPU), and another 8 pin (6+2, GPU, it should have at least two of these), it also has another two or three i don't remember the name of, but these days you only use them for old HDD's, RGAYB fans (unless your MOBO is a $50 piece of shit it should let you plug the fans/LEDs to it) or old, normal fans that don't plug to the MOBO.
The only thing you might frick up is screwing down the NVME SSD, i've seen people doing it directly to the board (it has a stand-off you have to screw in), bending the fricking thing, or just being scared of having to push it down and screw it, thinking it's going to break. Watch some videos if you're not sure how it goes, but basically you can't frick it up unless you're clinically moronic.
not very hard. the actually confusing and sort of difficult part if you don't know a thing about computer hardware is to pick and choose all necessary parts and making sure they're compatible. you can skip all of that by just picking a tier on logicalincrements.com or some other place that shows recommended builds though.
the one thing logicalincrements doesn't mention is case fans, but from what i see most cases seem to have them preinstalled.
Oh for fricks sake, it's an easy reference to make homosexual. What, you afraid someone is going to call you a soiboi because you mentioned a popular building toy? My girlfriend bought me some tiny Lego AT-AT at a Publix one day despite the fact that I don't have any legos and that I hate Nu-Wars. Am I going to throw it out and tell her "sorry babe, legos are blue-pilled and cringe"? Grow the frick up you little shit.
it's called lego and not legos
If you're going to be pedantic then actually it's LEGO®
uh for ME it's legga
>save $100 or more by buying this hideous case for your 4090
There's a reason these threads never have comparisons between prebuilts and a shopping cart full of parts.
why the frick do they still put usb 2.x ports on shit
even the mobo i got last year oh my god
Because 3.0 takes more bandwidth. Because there is plenty devices for which 2.0 is more than enough.
>"Hideous"
>Literally just a big black box, looks better than 99% of the overdesigned bullshit on the market right now
Before doing anything with case
>Put CPU in MB
>If you wanna also connect RAM, GPU(if needed) and test boot
Everything after is piss easy
LEGO for adults.
i bent a pin on my cpu because i was nervous i was going to bend a pin
Just bend it right back, even if it broke off you can just insert in into the corresponding hole in the motherboard and it will work. CPU pins are nothing to worry about, motherboard pins on the other hand...
>pc wont post
>buy new psu
>still wont post
its over
my last resort is looking for spare cmos batteries maybe thatll fix it
Why the frick would you think that buying a new PSU would somehow make it post?
its a very old pc and i was troubleshooting
You suck at troubleshooting.
Always check a PSU with the paperclip test before assuming it's bad.
If you've got a known good PSU and the board isn't reacting at all (Isn't even flashing an indicator light or giving a bad POST beep on the PC speaker) you've got a dead mobo.
i dont remember the board model, but it is silent and doesnt have lights on it. i better look it up again, i have replaced the cooler already and reseated everything to try to see if i can solve it. it's not really my pc, but maybe the motherboard is just dead. it works only intermittently and now not at all.
Every board has them, that's how you diagnose shit like bad ram sticks, dead cpu, dead gpu, etc, if your computer can't get video or doesn't even get to the bios.
>works only intermittently and now not at all
With a known good PSU, the most likely culprit is a bad cap somewhere on the mobo. Unless it's nostalgic or vintage and irreplaceable, probably best just to replace the PC.
>bad cap
*bad cap or joint
sounds like the board is fricked
Anon your PSU has nothing to do with post what the frick
Your mobo is dead
it wont be CMOS it will either be CPU or RAM
Of your PC beeps or even shows lights, it's not the PSU. Tbh it's good to get a PSU tester unit. Your issue is most likely your RAM or motherboard, assuming you've tried booting without a GPU and have a cpu that supports integrated graphics.
doesnt beep
but could be the motherboard all the same
Shove a paperclip into pins 16 and 17, and then plug it in, flip the power switch, and see if your PSU fan turns. Don't let the paperclip touch anything else or you'll have a bad day.
>remove all RAM sticks except one
>does it post?
>if not swap the RAM stick for one of the others
RAM is the easiest thing to troubleshoot so start there
already removed everything and all that. ive narrowed it down to maybe the cpu or the motherboard. it doesnt even have a gpu. again it is very old. im in bed so i dont remember the board model.
Could be something as simple as you need to replace the thermal paste rather than a part being busted
The motherboard would be cheaper to replace than a CPU but ideally you should check both parts before making a purchase. You know anyone with a computer that'd let you swap your CPU in to test?
how do i know what cpu i need? do i look for a certain ghz amount? how do cores factor in? i just dont get it
https://pcpartpicker.com
look at what you want, see what socket it uses, if its the same socket as the board you want, get it
You look at the requirements on Steam for the game you want. Copy and paste the name of the CPU into google along with the word Passmark to get a rating. Do the same for the GPU, then go search Newegg during back to school or holiday sales for something with a similar or higher passmark score.
Hey, I didn't know the president of Mega "Construx" posted on Ganker
takes like half of a white or asian iq level
just inhale some computer duster and bang that shit together, done in 20 minutes
Just emulate GBA and earlier on a chromebook, homie. No need to play any pc games made after 2006
when i bought a pc I compared it with prebuilt options and prebuilds were about 2x the price. don't believe this literal homosexual
>pay some homosexual to build me a PC
>wait a week for him to rush it and build it incorrectly
>pay twice as much as MSRP
vs
>buy all the parts on overclockers
>have them shipped next day
>build PC the next afternoon with youtube tutorial
>eat the sweets they sent in the boxes with them
you have be unironically moronic to prebuild
>creates a fake story in his schizo head
>YOU HAVE TO BE moronic TO PICK X SIDE THAT I CREATED IN MY SKITZO BRAIN
Only moron here is you, take your meds.
thanks for reading my post anon, unfortuantely your a pikey
>i'm gonna post a smug anime girl to support my moronic opinions
>that way they'll know i'm right!!!!
bump
A PC has like 6 parts that have to plug together
Hooking up the power supply is far more annoying than any of the actual breakable pieces
I have found mounting fans to be the most irritating part of the process
whatever intel engineer designed that shitty twist clip system that was in use a while back needs to be publicly stoned
Every pc part is standardized, pretty amazing if you think about it, follow logical increments if you're unsure about parts and open a youtube guide.
Its as easy as plugging in a brand new ps5.
>Just build a PC bro it's just like building legos
>you brought a too large graphics card? Too bad bro
>Your AIO is 2mm thicker for the case? Goota replace it.
>Oh you brought the wrong power supply? Enjoy electrocution and a housefire bro
>Oh you applied too much thermal paste? Enjoy your broken CPU bro
>Oh you inserted the RAM with more force than a small girl? Enjoy your destroyed PC bro
>Oh you didn't perfectly align the GPU connectors because you were afraid they might break too? Enjoy the melting cables bro
You can just admit you're a fricking moron, it's okay anon.
>electrocution and a housefire
Tell me you're British without telling me you're British. Do you have trouble sleeping at night because the spooky mains goblins might get you if you don't turn off each and every socket?
>inserted the RAM with more force than a small girl
Wat
This is true when i upgraded my gpu it barely fit in my case and the power wiring presses agains the panel where it connects.
>large graphics card
I give you this one, even my R5 wouldn't be able to fit a 4090, and that shit is huge.
>AIO 2mm thicker
Do you even know what an AIO is? The coolers go on top or in the front, there's no way they don't fit unless they're a non-standard size (120mm, 140mm).
>wrong power supply
Excuse me? Even if you buy an old power supply for a 4090, there's adapters for it. There's no way to buy a wrong power supply, if you mean buying an insufficient PSU for a power hungry card, it will just not power up instead of exploding.
>too much thermal paste
Not an issue unless you literally dump the entire fricking tube on it, and even then there's people who do exactly that and spread it with a credit card so the paste covers the entire chip.
>inserted the RAM with too much force
It literally only fits one way, if you try to push it down EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, then that's on you for being moronic.
>perfectly align the GPU connectors
How is this an issue? You even hear a click when you push them all the way in.
I don't know what kind of people you deal with every day, but they're clearly not light colored.
Bait but it is just too funny...
>you brought a too large graphics card? Too bad bro
>Your AIO is 2mm thicker for the case? Goota replace it.
How do you not know the dimensions of your case? Again only if you have a shitty prebuild or bought some weird actek bullshit.
>>Oh you brought the wrong power supply? Enjoy electrocution and a housefire bro
Black person, where did you even got your power supply? that has not been an issue in decades. Some refurbished shit from craigslist or something, I mean I guess some really obscure chinese sites might sell you refurbished power supplies but again even a modest 550 bronze supply should be enough for a gaming set up unless you thought to buy a 3090 and match it with a 400w supply.
>>Oh you applied too much thermal paste? Enjoy your broken CPU bro
God damn, the fricking thing comes with a guide and applier.
>>Oh you inserted the RAM with more force than a small girl? Enjoy your destroyed PC bro
>>Oh you didn't perfectly align the GPU connectors because you were afraid they might break too? Enjoy the melting cables bro
Rofl.
How much would this configuration cost you, Ganker?
Mobo: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2
RAM: Kingston Fury Beast KF560C40BBK2-32
GPU: Asus nvidia geforce rtx 4070 ti 12GB TUF
PSU: Gigabyte GP-P1000GM 80 Plus Gold
PC case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Cooler: Noctua D15S
>asrock
No, it's literally the only MOBO i've had that died on me, it was a b450 steel legend.
>kingston RAM
Has issues with ryzen processors, even if you get matching sticks. Go corsair or g.skill.
>TUF gaming
Enjoy your jet engine. With nvidia it's evga (rip)>msi>xfx>shit>everything else>zotac.
>noctua d15s
Mogged by the peerless assassin, a $30 cooler.
Every mobo manufacturer has their share of problems, but for the price Asrock sells well made competitive parts. In 5 years I see them replacing ASUS at the rate things are going.
I'm going to buy a lenovo thinkcentre and I WILL game on it
it's like snapping together legos for the most part. as long as you have verified compatibility before buying you are ok.
>how hard is it?
Oh it's hard. It's very hard.
Wanna see, you emasculated pussy?
The idea of buying pre-built is nice for people who have the money to spare but not the patience or perceived time, since if something goes wrong you can point the finger at them and get it fixed, but in practice the pre-builts my friends have gotten and the one I got years ago all had more problems than the ones I've built. They frick up random shit like not using thermal paste correctly, bare minimum cable management, and not seating NVMe SSDs correctly (the latter one was causing my friend's to blue screen frequently, all I had to do was re-seat it and it's been fine since)
I could honestly go on but what I'm saying is that you're doing the right thing and the monkeys they have building these PCs are hardly more knowledgeable than you. I had to look up how to install a new shower head yesterday and I successfully built my first PC 10 years ago, it's crazy easy but understandably intimidating. Put your PSU in first, plug it into the wall but don't turn it in on so your build is grounded, give yourself room on a hard surface, then go to town. My go-to order is PSU > Motherboard > plug PSU power into mobo and get it out of the way > CPU > CPU cooler > plug fans into mobo > mount drives > plug everything in that needs plugging > FRONT I/O PANEL PLUGS LOOK AT YOUR MOBO MANUAL FOR THIS IT IS THE ONLY TIME YOU'LL NEED TO REFERENCE THAT > RAM > GPU
GPU last since it gets in the way of other shit and you can plug it in without unplugging anything else. I've never fricked up any of my ~5 builds and I'm moronic and don't know how electricity works just have a tutorial ready and give yourself time, also these components are more sturdy than you think - handle them with care but you can even drop shit and it'll still work
You can frick something up and lose hundreds of dollars.
People say it's easy, but first time isn't, theres a lot you need to know.
I watched videos first time i was building and they left out important info, i had to watch mulitple sources and read the manual.
Cpu is probably the hardest part because you can easily break your pins. You have to tighten fan right, you have to use the right ammount of thermal paste. What is the right ammount, well there are different answers.
Rams, easy gpu is easyish. Hard drives can be a little complicated depending on case.
I highly recommend getting an ssd for your os drive, also get one for gaming drive, hard drives aren't worth it imo unless you just want to store stuff on it.
Make sure you research performance of the parts you get userbenchmark is how i would build a new pc. It'll even tell yiu the best value parts.
use PC part picker dot com
it will help you keep track of what parts you're getting and tell if there's incompatability issues, it even estimate wattage for you.
watch some videos on youtube for how to assemble each part; the CPU pins are fragile so be careful with that part and make sure to "ground" your screwdriver before putting anything together. It's pretty simple to put it together yourself but it never hurts to make sure it's done correctly.
install necessary drivers for your computer to function then use the website ninite to download all the useful programs you'll need at once, there's a small program called speccy that will show you all the parts in your computer and the temperatures
I've built a couple dozen computers and the process can be streamlined pretty easily, even for a novice. It's really not hard you just have to bear in mind the parts are expensive so be confident that you're doing the right thing and don't plug it in or turn it on unless you're confident it's all wired up correctly.
It's about as hard as building with legos.
>building a PC
>in 2023
how is this possible?
gpu scalping and mining ended last year when ethereum stopped relying on mining, everything's available everywhere now.
still at moronic inflated prices since nvidiamd are gonna try to keep riding the gravy train as long as they can, but they'll have to do better soon. current gen GPUs are selling like shit.
We're gonna go back to GPU's being scalped because of he AI meme. Next year or two AMD is gonna release an cpu with integrated graphics comparable to the 6700xt (40 CUs but RDNA3) and it's gonna cannibalize the low and high end, that's partly why they decided to scale back the radeon division and not compete with nvidia at the high end, they also didn't want to compete with themselves.
6700xt is still going to be the minimum needed for 1080p, anyway. Soon you'll need 7900xt minimum for 1440p, and 4090 minimum for 4k.
We're only seeing the very beginning of the shit show that is current gen requirements. Couple that with every dev team being incompetent diversity hires trained by "Game Developer Schools" and we're heading into a shitstorm.
A 6700xt as backup integrated graphics would be fricking sweet. I'd actually bother using my mobo's hdmi for a separate screen. Frick, that would change the landscape entirely, because every budget build would just go AMD and forgo a dedicated gpu entirely, and of course people who value performance would be forced to pay the nvidia tax. It really does look like AMD and Nvidia are colluding.
AMD is doing it to count their CPUs as GPUs since all their CPUs will have built-in GPUs.
Thus bringing up their marketshare numbers.
It's genius, really.
The current 'high'end' AMD iGPU is the 780M which with the right RAM is about as good as a mobile 1650ti or almost reaching RX 560 levels which will let you play MOST current games at acceptable resolutions.
I built my PC but I suck at cable management :^/
stuff 'em all behind the motherboard against the case
out of sight, out of mind
Make sure you're getting the new shit rather than more shit. 32gb of DDR3 is still outdated. Also, from scratch I think prebuilts are actually cheaper. Everyone always tries to cook the cost when they post builds but you need a monitor, you need a case, you need a keyboard and mouse...
It's pretty easy
Just make sure you have a ton of space available
I unpacked all the items at the beginning the last time I did it and had to repackage some stuff like the GPU/COOLER/ETC
Follow guides on how to screw stuff in.
Install Gentoo wiki used to have a really good written guide on installing computer parts.
Just follow a youtube video and you're good
your lucky build quality has gone up
ive scarred my fingers cutting them on metal cases edges over the years
once nearly to the bone
>$1500 to get into mid tier gaming
Wew back in the day I just jammed a 660 into my cheap prebuilt and it served me for 8 years.
>build a PC just before lockdown
>sudden price increase a month later
Feel like I dodged a bullet, I'm afraid of upgrading my PC at this point
I took the risk and upgraded with used parts. Here's what I found
>ram is perfect
>gpu is perfect, the mining burning them out meme is not real it's the same type of load you get from just gaming. I've never had a GPU burn out on me since I give it proper airflow.
>cpu is great
>avoid motherboards and obviously don't get SSDs
Monitors are probably good too.
Eh it depends on whether you have the right tools or not. I assume you're not a moron and you won't frick up by ordering the wrong parts, like an intel CPU for an AMD socket, a weak power supply, a GPU too large for your case, etc.
Assuming you did everything right, it's still tricky.
>most things are tiny, especially utility pins like the one to turn the PC on and you have to carefully read the manual
>you have to watch out for static electricity, I suggest grounding + a bracelet
>don't use too much thermal paste
>cable management becomes a huge pain in the ass as you add more and more components
>installing an M.2 SSD requires you to screw in the tiniest fricking screw I've ever seen
and if you leave it for last like I did, you'll have to hold the drive in place while trying to fit your fingers through very cramped space
It's doable, but I always dread opening the case whenever I upgrade my PC.
>inb4 some c**t working at a PC shop telling me how easy it is
yeah sure if you do it 10 times a week it's easy, the problem is that a normal person does it what, one or two times a year? it's not enough to gain expertise
m2 screw is not tiny
"normal" people use craptops or premades
assembling pc is easy if you aren't a double digit iq mutt
literally no sane person diddles with pc every fricking year
>m2 screw is not tiny
It’s literally the smallest screw you’ll ever use on a pc
Buy a lego set.
If you can follow instructions and build it correctly, you can build a PC.
You people are so incapable it blows me away.
Multiple people saying they are scared of putting a PC together, other people espousing learned helplessness, and one person saying prebuilts are a wise use of money.
How do you people even live?
For a good 5-8 years prebuilts were better because of cryptoisraelites buying up all the loose GPUs.
>5-8 years
>doubles the time in his head
Wew I guess it's true when they say people with autism struggle with executive functions like time management.
Well while you were in elementary school 5-8 years ago I actually remember how long it took. It was not a 1 year event, revisionist.
>doubles down on his autism delusions
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bg6RBL
$1450 for a beastmode 1440p machine. If that's too pricy for you, downgrade the CPU to a 7600x and the GPU to a 6700xt to game at 1080p instead for $400 less.
Literally connecting legos.
This is the worst that can happen:
Not having the right matching parts but that is very unlikely, like buying a motherboard with an intel socket for a AMD CPU or vise versa. Or having RAM that does not match or having ram at different clock speeds, the later is just a bottleneck since the fastest ram will try to match the slowest one. Or buying a power supply that does meet the power requirements of your parts.
Not being properly discharged and accidentally destroying a component through static. Just touch the power supply before hand or try to ground yourself before handling any parts. Again very unlikely this will ever happen and I have seen people be super paranoid about it and buy mats and shit.
Applying the thermal grease / paste like a moron and even that is somewhat difficult to frick up, since it is the first time you are going to do it, expect a few air bubbles which is just a few temp degrees extra and even that is not a big deal.
Connecting the molex connectors wrong, that can frick up your case lights and other crap so be extra careful plugging things in.
Screwing things too tight, HDD, SDD etc etc.
Placing the GPU before the M.2, again that is not even an issue just take the GPU out and put the stick in.
That's it, that is all that can go wrong.
Just buy one like I did. You shouldn’t have to become an engineer just to play vidya
I don't know what was going on in March, but you can get a Cobratype with same CPU, GPU more ram, and a less ancient hard drive for less than half that at Newegg right now.
>buy a screwdriver both philip and flathead
>most products come with velcro straps/ties
>less than a 10% chance of something being dead on arrival and I'm being generous to you its mostly a 1% issue
>troubleshooting is a natural part of owning a computer
>quite literally touch a pipe connected to your bathroom on the ground floor you lose your static charge instantly
Screws falling is your only legitimate complaint
Been building PCs for a quarter of a century, since I was 10 years old. Hell, technically 8 years old by that was under supervision from my father. If a 10 year old child can do it, so can you.
Pick a case big enough for your pieces, then you take a motherboard and slam a CPU on that shit, (remember to put gaming mayo on the CPU), then you take your GAMER card and slam that shit in the motherfrick too, take a power source and connect that junk to the motherhood, you take your RAM stick and stick them into the motherofgod, then you connect the fans to the motherbread too, you take all the cables and shove them somewhere into the case, then you press the power button, boot the peecee bios and install Windows OS with a USB, no other option, the other OS fricking suck ass, eat shit linuxgays, and just like that your PC should be catching fire and breaking down because you didn't put enough gaming mayo into your CPU, enjoy.
the hardest part is the cable management, it'll be fine
underage mexican who only knows how to use a android
BROS, MY CPU IS LIMITING MY GPU BY 6.5%
OH NO, I GOT BTFO, HOW WILL PRE BUILTS EVER RECOVER???
6.5%, ITS DOOMED, PRE BUILTS GONE, TIME FOR ME TO PAY $1K MORE OTHERWISE I WONT BE ABLE TO RUN ANYTHING WITH THIS 6.5 DETRIMENT.
AGGHHHHHH I WILL NEVER RECOVER
I’m on your side as a prebuiltgay but you are embarrassing yourself
No, you're just a stupid b***h.
But keep talking how amazing muh 32gb ram is dipshit.
Anon I’m literally this guy
Absolutely mind broken and seething.
Don't be this anon. When you think you're in a bad spot in life, just refer to this post and you should feel better.
Absolutely mind broken, as you pay more for less.
Look at yourself in the mirror unironically, embarrassing.
>Absolutely mind broken, as you pay more for less
Are you fricking moronic? You paid more for a shittier cpu, ram and 8gb gpu.
Like holy frick dude this is actually sad.
>Still continues to embarass himself.
>6.5%
Try 40% instead, most prebuilts especially Alienware have the cheapest cooling for the CPU/PC so they end up reaching past 100 degrees and wearing down your already cheap prebuilt parts.
>it's okay that I get stuttering and and subpar performance and that I have a bottleneck heavy enough to give me 40% less performance out of my GPU
The absolute cope
6.5% > 0%
also wtf u mean $1k more? prebuilts cost more than building it yourself moron. you spent more to get worse performance.
>NOOO 6.5 % IS UNACCEPTABLE I MUST PAY MORE
>W-W-W-WAIT WHAT YOU MEAN I'M THE ONE PAYING MORE Y-Y-Y-YOU ARE
Call yourself a stupid b***h
>y-y-ou're coping
I said do one 2 years back during the height of the crypto mining.
You can't, of course if you compare a 2 year old PC to a recent one the recent shit will be cheaper, dipshit.
Holy shit, what a fricking moron.
>m-m-m-muh vram
Unironically brainlet tier.
Sheesh this dude is a corporate wet dream
Now realize 80% of people are just like him and you'll see why corporations are so large and powerful
>corporations don't make individual parts
>I-I-I-I'M FIGHTING THE MAN SPENDING MORE ON INDIVIDUAL PARTS
You are unironically a fricking slave and a moron.
>Those generically branded gpus stripped from prebuilt pc's are loud as mother fricker and still throttle
They don't throttle, then again you're the type of person that panics the moment his GPU breaks 60 degrees, fricking moron even when they are rated to operate safely at 90+ degrees.
You unironically get a worse deal when you buy individual and its equally as autistic just looking for each individual part.
>They don't throttle
They do, but you don't game hard enough to notice.
>then again you're the type of person that panics the moment his GPU breaks 60 degrees
Are you idling at 60 just browsing Ganker right now? lmao.
Idiots like him is how I make my money, unironically. I've sold 5 prebuilt PCs at 4k$ that cost 3k$ in retail parts (slightly less for me) in the last week.
Based anon dabbing on moronic prebuilders
I am not even joking, it started as a joke, ended up as a real thing. The money people will give you for 2 velcro straps and a shitty corsair AIO (don't buy those btw ever, even the 3x120 ones) is insane.
It's not as simple as it sounds, while I am a 'solo' operation, I piggybacked off of my dad's small repair shop (for the parts logistics) and while they are 'prebuilt' they are mostly custom and not a specific template. You know how some brands have like a 'premium' badge? I'm that guy. Most of the PCs are actually last/current gen parts and not shitty prebuilt deals, I just put an insane mark up and people buy them.
I see, extra validity of a real shop. People definitely do flip computers solo though so might be worth a shot
The shop is small enough so it doesn't matter, you think it does, but it really doesn't. The only time they see the shop is the branded bags or when I had them the warranty papers (which is straight up the parts order I put in most of the time). I have my shit on grey market sites mostly.
I actually detach myself from the shop as much as I can so I can shill my father's store for service and etc. The only real 'use' I get out of it is distributor prices for parts (which are AT MOST 5% cheaper so eh).
Damn, id like to try that but I'm not in a position to take the hit if it doesn't sell in my area
Really tempted to start doing this myself. Props if you’re not lying anon
How do you sell them? Craigslist? Or do you take orders?
>adding labor costs actually makes PCs cheaper because.... it just does okay?!
>labor costs
>he doesn't know pre builts are all factory fricking made
>he doesn't know companies get huge discounts thanks to their bulk buying
>he doesn't know anything about the economics of it
>proceeds to spout dumb shit
Yeah I'm thinking this is a Ganker post.
what show is the fairy girl from I want to jack off
building it yourself will always be cheaper, that's an irrefutable fact because prebuilts include labor and other bullshit in the price. If you get the same exact parts (including the shitty mobo and cooler and whatever else they skimped on), buying individual parts will always be cheaper. I also cannot fathom why you're dickriding prebuilts this hard. Are you that technologically illiterate, are a you shill from a company or do you work for one? It's genuinely baffling that you're shitting on the doing it yourself method. Do you never repair anything yourself? Do you just toss and buy a new one or get it to a repair shop that scams you out the ass? Either that or very weak and moronic bait
Prebuilts does indeed mean somebody else’s labor went into it, but that also mean it’s covered by warranty
You can’t get a warranty on a custom build
>You can’t get a warranty on a custom build
You still have warranty on the parts though.
Alternatively I could just send it back to get it fixed without the extra hassle
Yes? Nobody is saying prebuilts are less convenient.
Sending it back IS an extra hassle, but if you don't have any old parts to swap in, I suppose it's no different than needing to replace a component
There's a warranty on every part. The job of diagnosing falls on you.
>building it yourself will always be cheaper
This is wrong, 100% wrong in every conceivable way.
Pre builts are FACTORY MADE, as in they are built via a fricking conveyor built and are mass produced.
Items are bought in BULK, which means the cost of building their PC is FAR less than what you are paying for yours.
You are a stupid frick and wrong.
Got a source on the pricing?
>Conveyer belt.
No son, it was a Chinese woman in her 50s who put your computer together on a table and then had it packaged to little Timmys such as yourself.
>Pre builts are FACTORY MADE, as in they are built via a fricking conveyor built and are mass produced.
this is simply false, they buy parts and have regular dudes build them, do you think a conveyor belt is gonna do intricate cable management, or get in deep nooks and crannies for screws. There are companies that rely heavily on machines but most ones use humans
>they buy parts and have regular dudes build them
BAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHHAHAHA
HAHAHAH
He actually fricking THINKS this.
Not quite. The parts go down belts and people shove them together. Fair chance your CPU doesn't have any thermal paste on it nor even had the plastic sticker removed because some illegal immigrant hiding out in a Chinese factory just wanted to keep his boss happy by getting as much done per hour as he could
Walmart and Amazon are the largest sellers of prebuilt PCs just like Walmart and Amazon are the number one sellers for books. People don't go to speciality stores anymore, and if they do, they are probably smart enough to buy parts and just need confidence.
>Do you never repair anything yourself? Do you just toss and buy a new one
This is what rich people do, yes.
Tell me about sound cards. Meme or audiophile tism?
Not useful, personally I use USB to get audio signal to my integrated amp.
I made this thread just looking for PC building advice but some homosexual has to go off topic to justify his purchase. Thanks to the anons who actually helped out though, I see no reason to keep this thread alive any longer.
It's adult Legos, you moron. Hope thst helps, good luck.
make another thread showing your build before you buy anything so anons can tell you if its dogshit or not
i breathed a little too hard on my cpu and ended up bending like 7 pins
dont do it op just buy an alienware
>finish building your pc
>press the power button
>it doesn't post
what's the first thought that goes through you head
fricking Ganker c**ts
Something isn't seated right.
No matter what copeium you post you will always be wrong about this.
Baring extremely rare circumstances it's always a better choice to build your own computer.
Beat my wife. Then I reseat the RAM and ask myself why I bought a motherboard with less than 4 eggs/stars for reviews, or look up to see if my motherboard requires a bios update to support the CPU I put in.
>is the power switch on?
>did I plug the wires in?
>I should replug everything
personal experience but I plugged the hdmi at the motherboard instead at the videocard. Shaking my head for like an hour.
>finish building my pc
>press power button
>nothing happens
>ohgodohfrick.png
>realize i forgot to flip the power switch on PSU
moron moment
Double check i plugged the cpu to power, then double check i actually flipped the fricking switch on the PSU. If it doesn't work, i check the BIOS my MOBO shipped with, and if i can update it from a USB stick. If it still doesn't work i shit my pants and cry.
>the entirety of wires
you just plug them into the parts
>screwing shit in
you just turn your wrist slightly
>doa
rare
>dealing with shitty retailers
use a better retailer
>never working on the first try taking a couple hours troubleshooting
not if you do it right
>static electricity
use a flat surface, not your carpet. tap the screwdriver on some metal before you use it
>cpu
don't have parkinsons and you're good
>horrible crunching sounds
?????
>screws falling in the deepest darkest crevice
don't drop them
simple as
You might be too young for this comparison but if you can hook up a VCR, you can build a PC.
Stuff plugs into the matching holes.
Hardest part with the most room for frickup is installing the CPU/processor but it's not bad, watch a vid.
>never working on the first try
>horrible crunching sounds
I get that Ganker likes grugposting, but I didn't realize we had genuine cavemen here.
I built my first PC when I was 12 years old(1998). You got this. Just check a Youtube tutorial and take your time. Don't wimp out and have someone build it for you(or buying a prebuilt). It's very good experience to make your own and very satisfying.
It's impossible if you're black
why build a pc when you can just buy an xbox and plug a keyboard into it
it's has more functionality
okay, but if I don't care about that autistic shit and just want to play games?
you can play more video games on a PC than an xbox and they don't cost you anything
lemme guess all you wanna play is cawwa dooty
xbox can't play emulators, or koikatsu, or generate AI slop, or play obscure shit only released on PC.
you don't have a choice in frame rate when it comes to games
the devs only give you a option if they want
do you want to play at 30 fps?
do you want to play shitty modern games?
the only hard part about building mine was screwing on the damned cpu cooler
Worst part is cable management.
>I don't have a gpu, and my storage is m.2
Like 90% of what's annoying about building a computer doesn't apply to you then.
99% of people who are into building PCs are incredibly moronic so I don't think you have much to worry about.
why are you gays so obnoxious? just do whatever you want and let other people live their fricking lives
if you like to buy prebuilts, buy prebuilts
if you want to assemble everything by yourself, great, have fun
if you want to choose the components but have someone else put them together, perfect
you gays need to chill
if you have your own reasons to do whatever it is you're doing, great but why do you care so much about other people?
Blame the build it yourself autists.
They are next level insecure.
They WANT to believe that because they put more effort, more work when it comes to their PC that they MUST be getting a better deal, right, RIGHT?!?!
If the consumer does more work it means they just have to be getting the better deal.
But sadly that isn't true and they can't wrap their heads around it.
And so they sperg out violently.
You're also acting like a humungous homosexual yourself
Build autists are like garden gays.
>OH MY GOSH YOU BUY FOOD AT THE SUPERMARKET?!?
>YOU DON'T GROW YOUR OWN STUFF?!?
>BRO ITS SOOO EASY, JUST PLANT THE SEEDS AND WATER THEM LOL
>BRO, JUST GET A COW AND BREED THEM, ITS LIKE INFINITE FOOD LOL IMAGINE BUYING FOOD
I am acting like a sane, rational human being.
they're like trannies, they love to customize their crap with purple flashing neon lights
Unironically every troony I've seen was super autismal when it came to PCs.
What is it with trannies and their autismal fixation with PCs?
You have it backwards. Autists love PCs, trannies are 6-10x more likely than the general population to be autistic. You should be asking why autists are trooning out.
Autists love PCs because they’re highly structured, complex, yet finite systems.
SEX with tsukasa
>sane rational human being
>endless cope
>NOOOO I'M NOT THE moron YOU'RE HTE moron
>for not being able to put in parts that were literally made for kids to put together
>BUT NOOO THE COMPUTER PARTS A COMPLICATED
>one Black person keep avatar gayging and baiting
>you motherfricker keep replying
lmao you deserve to be shit on
fricking morons
hes not baiting
hes just a moron
But everyone is laughing at him. Epic own, ecks dee
>now he's using food analogies
This has been one of the better threads in a while. Your tremendous idiocy is a treat.
>sane and rational
>bought a Pre-built that is still $300 overpriced 2 years later
>sperging out the entire thread when they get called out on their bottlenecked toaster with flame decals
>still won't tell people the brand/model of their Pre-built so they can see what the stats of their gimped GPU is
>bought a Pre-built that is still $300 overpriced 2 years later
>he says this when every 3k card ALONE was selling for $1k+
Ummm sweaty, I don't even think you were alive 2 years ago, don't ever talk to me again you toddler.
>You should be asking why autists are trooning out
Probably has to do with all the microplastics they ingest from building their PCs.
>Probably has to do with all the microplastics they ingest from building their PCs.
Sounds like you're speaking from experience considering you're still avatar gayging as a tranime girl that you desperately want to be.
>buying a 3k card during a price hike when you could have just got an AMD card for a fraction of the price
>being elitist over a prebuilt that struggles to play games at 1080p
I'm sorry you wasted your birthday money. Post your hands.
Because most prebuilts are a litteral scam, and anything that actually has good, consistent, hardware has an apple tier price tag.
So? Why do you care? If they're scams get on with it and sell them as a side hustle or something. You're annoying. People telling other people what to do come off as obnoxious gays, like christians, mormons or vegans
Why do you care so much about people caring?
I don't care about you caring, I care about you being annoying
So? Why do you care?
I build for my friends and colleagues when they mention buying a PC. You're the one coming into a thread from a user that wanted to build a PC and getting annoyed that people that build PCs are in the thread.
>go on PC part picker
>okay lets start with the CPU
>given literally thousands of options
>no idea what these 10 long digits on any of these fricking things mean
>no idea what the actual performance of anything is, or what it says in the blurb about it's "features" even means
>give up
I hate using my steam deck as a desktop but I just can't handle this fricking shit
I don't have a functioning enough brain to have the patience to deal with this
buy or pirate the comptia study guide, its a thousand page book but you can just read the parts regarding pc components.
the most important are the first digits, in intel cpu you can choose between i3 (entry level), i5 (mid level), i7 (high level), i9 (i cum money or will be using pc for very high end production)
aren't they getting rid of that (i) level scheme next gen?
https://www.pcmag.com/news/no-more-i3-i5-i7-intels-overhauling-how-it-names-its-desktop-and-laptop
>will not be retrofitted to existing chips
>will be core 3, 5, 7, 9
>will be core ultra which is like k vs non k (im just guessing) with higher performance
i dont know why they are making a change
Even a kid can google best CPUs for gaming
>reading
this is where I give up
I don't even have the attention span to watch anime or play video games what makes you think I'm going to read a fricking school textbook on computer jargon
Oh, you just wanted attention.
I9-9900k is mine and essentially that means it's an i9 tier processor. Making it high end, and it's the 9th generation, and is the 900 model. As for the letters K means unlocked for overclocking, H is for high performance graphics (integrated. Will NOT boost your GPU), and T is for general desktop use efficiency, and U means it's optimized for power saving performance (laptop CPU).
it's not that hard. Those are naming schemes and are very easy to understand, for example
>Intel Core i7-13700K
>Intel means it's made by intel (duh)
>i7 is the brand modifier, higher means better (assuming they're in the same generation)
, the 13 is the generation, higher is better
>K, the last letter at the end indicates the processor's ability (U is for powerefficient laptops and can't be overclocked iirc, K means it's unlocked and can be overclocked etc)
Just google "X naming schemes" and replace X with intel,amd or nvidia
If you are afraid of being overwhelmed get a fully modular psu and m.2 drive. These will significantly lower the amount of wires you have to work with.
It's a bit stressful, but I find it fun. Parts are far more durable than new builders realize and that it takes quite a bit to actually break something.
You'll still run into things that will make you heart skip a beat, like when I built my AM5 PC and had no idea that the initial boot would take ages due to it doing memory training or something, which led me to believe I fricked up until the post screen came up.
Not hard at all.
Shit, some motherboards are built like Legos with literal labels of x goes into y
here's a flow chart I made concerning this question that should is comprehensive enough to solve not only your question but everyone else who will ever ask this question
Just copy a build or get a prebuilt from a good website.
NTA but you could try taking orders without having any inventory. Just tell them there's going to be a short delay. If you don't live in the middle of nowhere you can order all the components and have them in your doorstep by the next day.
THE FRICK DO I DO ABOUT RAM!!
just get 16 GB, DDR5 preferably. Two 8GB sticks.
what about the cl?
is 16g ram still enough or is it time to upgrade?
>16GB
32GB 3600 hz sticks go for less 100 bucks on Amazon these days.
depends on use case right now, but 16GB will not be viable for long i think.
i played ToTK on yuzu with dynamic fps and 4k mods and the emulator would freeze my computer sometimes when a ton of stuff happened on screen and when i shut the emulator down. turns out my 16GB of RAM plus 8GB swap file didn't cut it. put in two more ram sticks and it all works perfectly, and i can now see the fricking emulator uses nearly 30 gigs by itself when playing the game in 4K.
Bro it's literally easier than lego sets, if it don't fit it don't go there. There's a plethora of guides, advice and how-to's.
Only the dumbest frick on earth could mess it up.
Almost impossible, 90% chance you absolutely nuke something and are out hundreds of dollars the warranty won’t cover
Anon I did it when I was 13 its not hard
The hardest part isn’t the assembly, it’s getting full compatibility
I used a part picker to build my first custom built and it said everything was compatible, and then it blew up because the power supply was wrong
Use those latex gloves you can buy in a pack.
Hardest part of building a PC is trying to figure out how much pressure is needed to push certain things on and the stress that develops if it doesn't turn on correct the first time. Then you just google what's wrong and you'll eventually fix it.
what if it blows up
Then you know you fricked up somewhere, and then you buy a prebuilt computer.
the manual for your case and motherboard have literally everything you have to know in like 20 different languages
besides that the only hard part is having compatible RAM/motherboard/CPU, but google can easily help you nowadays instead of just trial and error like back in the ol' cowboy days
so yeah, it is really not hard at all and everyone that tries to tell you that is either mentally moronic or has 2 left hands
Building a PC is literally an IQ test, if you can't do it then there's no hope
Where is you're nose?
This
What am I in for bros?
I would personally go 750-850 for the PSU. They loser effectiveness over time and sometimes your PC will need more power than normal. Better to just have a buffer considering how little price difference is between 600-850
your rig will demolish 1080p for at least the next 4 years.
what makes western people so afraid of paying someone to do it for them?
the fact that you're scared means you'd probably be at least somewhat careful when building it, which means you'll be fine
unlike this baboon
its not equal to legos moron
Bionicles are more complicated
I don't know what you hope to achieve by announcing to everyone how stupid you are, but I hope it works out for you.
>ad hominem; no argument
*chuckles* I accept your concession.
*teleports behind u*
>tfw 2023 and I'm still playing on 1080p 60 fps single monitor
poorgaybros it's over
60fps@1080p is simple but honest
ITT Ganker learns that technology gets cheaper over time
>OH MY GOSH BRO, YOU TELLING ME THAT IN 2020 YOU BOUGHT A 2020 CAR FOR X?!?!
>B-B-B-UT ITS 2023 NOW AND I BOUGHT A
2023 CAR FOR THE SAME PRICE AND ITS BETTER THAN YOURS TOO!!111
OMG BRO YOU GOT SO SCAMMED!!11
Watching this mental breakdown in real time is great. How much would your PC cost today?
>weeb is still melting down with copium trying to justify paying more for less
>all this prebuilt nonsense
do you people realize it's 2023 and there are hundreds of dedicated stores to buy prebuilts or simply pay an extra fee for someone to assemble the parts you've picked? nobody buys prebuilts from walmart
>nobody buys prebuilts from walmart
boomers buy prebuilts from wal-mart for their kids unfortauntely.
Imagine paying 1200 dollars for a 12th gen i5 and a 1660 super lmao
People who don't fricking care and just need a computer will buy from Walmart or Bestbuy. People still value the ability to go to the store and get it immediately.
>nerds on the internet tell me to avoid prebuilts
>okay whatever
>put all the shit I need in the shopping basket
>realize it's only like 30 bucks cheaper than a prebuilt
I'd rather pay 30 bucks to some geek to do it for me. Why does this upset you homosexuals so much?
Then how do prebuilt companies like Alienware turn a profit if their only getting 30 bucks per build? Might have something to do with you being a moron.
I have a tested IQ of 138.
Sorry I value my time more than money. Have fun thinking you're hot shit for doing the equivalent of stacking Lego blocks lmao.
You don't value anything, you're just a dumbfrick who doesn't realize how he is getting scammed.
Okay dumbfrick. Would you rather live one more year with a billion dollars, or live your life until you die of cancer or some shit?
I seriously don't care about money so long as I have a roof above my head and food in my belly. If you truly care about money so much you're just a materialist unworthy of my time.
>I seriously don't care about money so long as I have a roof above my head and food in my belly.
Ok so you're a worthless NEET, good for you?
I am a NEET. Only a fool would contribute to a decaying society.
>wagie thinks he can still shame me into being a ''leech'' when the world is in its current state
Holy frick lol.
See you around, wagie. Have fun ''retiring'' when you are too old to enjoy life.
Lmao that is hilarious, I feel sorry that your parents have to put up with such a parasite. You remind me of the Black folk at my old job who would be in their late 20s and still didn't even have their drivers license.
But you have no retirement at all? The frick?
You can't buy a house. You can't even buy a car. No credit, no anything.
>realize it's only like 30 bucks cheaper than a prebuilt
prebuilts are notorious for skimping on everything besides the GPU and CPU. You're not only saving 30 bucks, but you're getting a better MOBO, a better PSU, almost certainly better ram because prebuilts never tell you the speed and usually just tell you the amount, and the amount of prebuilts that give single channel ram is nutty. Plus by putting it together you learn how to build, and by proxy, take apart, your computer. Eventually you're going to need to replace a part either for repair or upgrading, and it's invaluable experience.
You're paying less money for a better product and building a better foundation for your experiences on this platform.
>Why does this upset you homosexuals so much?
No one is upset you bought a prebuilt like a dummy, we'll just laugh and call you a moron. We get upset when you go around telling other people to buy prebuilts because you're harming other peoples experiences.
besides the GPU and CPU.
They skimp on everything including those, if you're getting lets say a 3080 in a prebuilt, you can guarantee it will be worse than the FE version. Alienware has tailor made small GPU versions that run about as good as 80% of the real thing like laptop GPUS but they will still advertise it as being a 3080.
OEM GPU's aren't bad. Usually just slightly worse thermals, and you can usually find them alone for like 75% the cost of a normal one.
how is liquid cooling? I have calculated prices and found them to be superior to the good ole air cooling. I am a bit hesitant to get some though, I have never had any experience with them and screwing up might cause some real damage.
Not really worth it. You still have to air-cool the GPU unless you splurge on an expensive watercooling setup, and most water coolers just move heat to a heatsink that gets air-cooled. It looks cool, and I plan to do a full custom loop next year, but it's really not a necessity.
They look cool, but that’s about it. Noctua air coolers work just as well and will last for ten years + the company is nice if you ask for new mounting brackets and stuff
custom loops are silly complicated and the difference is negligible. Usually only for people who actively enjoy just messing around with their computer. High end air coolers like Noctua's are fricking great though and in my experience has been silent as hell. If you're just worried about making sure your shit stays cool, I'd suggest either that or a nice AIO.
>how is liquid cooling?
Don't bother, air cooling has progressed to the point you can get super capable double tower coolers for half the price of the cheapest AIO, and there's no risk of your shit leaking onto your components.
Don't let these anons make you feel bad, you should actually buy a pre built, just make sure you know whats INSIDE them. Very fricking important, you sometimes get a better deal buying a pre built than making it yourself. Pre-built meme came from morons just buying one with the coolest looking case but comes with a stock fan.
Guys don't bully op whats wrong with you.
its ok i can take it
Just buy one from Overkill, sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends!
I guess my MB is R.I.P. after 8 years.
Thinking about replacing it and getting a new CPU (i5 13400F). I'll keep the rest of the hardware since I don't actually play any demanding games.
What is a serviceable Motherboard these days for 100 bucks?
>bought prebuilt back in 2018 because I know frickall about computer components and I can't be assed wasting money if I frick something up
>still serves me extremely well today
>no crashes
>no overheating
>able to play a vast majority of games on the highest graphics with little frame drops
>recently got fiber so everything is even faster now
So what are the downsides of prebuits exactly?
most of the time it boils down to potentially saving money and shoddy QA (depends on the company) if it works and price isn't an issue, it really doesn't matter, GamersNexus has a whole series on shitty prebuilts
The downside is that you get some Ganker autist with his build a bear workshop certificate telling you how the PC you bought in 2018 is trash cuz he can build a cheaper one in 2023.
There are no downsides besides extra costs. I have had 3 prebuilts so far and I have had ZERO issues, while my elitist IT friend who always builds his own shit always has problems with his PC.
One downside for some people is that it just doesn't feel like their own thing. It's not like personalized.
They cost more. Building computers takes time. In any decent computer shop you can also pick the parts yourself and purchase building+testing as a service. Might be worth it if you want older gen mobo with new processor and would need to upgrade bios before it supports the new processor etc.
They will not build ”prebuilt” for free. They’ll just put a little cheaper and lower quality psu, memory, m2 ssd or something. Also prebuilts often come with windows, for which you pay 100 euros extra compared to just buying it for 5 euros ”aftermarket” from some student Black person who generated free keys for his university.
The only situation when prebuilts are a viable option is if they’re ”used” stock sold off after they’d been built for some LAN event or computer fair. Or if they’re sold by morons mispricing them.
building is easy
optimizing bios and undervolting should be your priority
If you bought your own food you would know that inflation is real and that there is nothing special about the PC hardware market. Like yea there was that crypto and chip shit but it's healed now. It's just that because the only things you buy are games you think that inflation isn't real. Like it's actually weird how they've been 60 for so long. Meanwhile I go buy pizza and it's 20% more expensive than it was just 5 (five) years ago.
TFW, 3rd worlder, stuck with a Dell Optiplex 7010 with a Intel i7 3770, 16GB DDR3 RAM and GTX1650 Super SFF. I want to jump on a newer platform but prices are israeliteed up.
Guess I will conform with this chinessium crap, add a US$20 512GB M2 SSD, and put these parts on a Micro Tower PC Case, keep the GTX 1650 and my 2TB mechanical HDD.
BTW is the price OK? or is there a better deal elsewhere?
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005005899918099.html
Xeon CPUs are for servers that need error correcting code. The error correcting slows down gaming.
Good to know, then best is disable ECC scrubbing on BIOS?.
>LGA 2011 socket
Doesn't this cap out at like 4th gen CPUs?
I remember when I built my first computer
such a fricking pain in the ass and it's not worth it
would rather pay a premium and get a nice laptop that I can game with or read/watch stuff with in bed or on the couch
desktops are for teenagers and people in their early 20's
When you're a child it's fine not knowing anything but by the time you're an adult man you should really know how to plug in a ram stick, change a tire, I mean come on do you pay someone when your fire alarm starts chirping?
Why would I want to discuss politics with someone too stupid to build their own PC?
>he calls economic systems "politics"
Oh God.....I'm talking to a moron.
yes, because economic and politics have NOTHING to do with each other
It literally doesn't, you're a fricking moron.
If you bundle economics with politics you're a grade A dipshit, not surprised coming from a build the bear workshop kiddo who just HAS to build his PC.
What is citizen's united?
OP I built mine in December and I would consider myself a fricking moron when it comes to anything mechanical. I watched a youtube guide and took my sweet time with it, for me I took a whole weekend and took it slow because I had the time. I ended up bending a little bit of my noctua cpu cooler on the edge but it didnt affect anything.
>still no benchmark
Really makes me think
I know it feels very scary but once you do it you will see how easy it is.
I played some heavy metal music and finished within an hour. I had to use a compatibility bracket to mount my (new at the time) AM4 cpu to the fan. It was a b***h but i figured it out
prebuiltgays remind me of the people who don't know how to pump their own gas
>wtf thats too complicated
>what if something goes wrong and catches fire?
>takes too long, let a professional do it
What's the best compact GPU for a Microtower Case? I'm aiming at 1080p, also I'm not interested in recent AAA games, since they are full of progressive trash.
yes, if they can afford booze and drugs, they can afford food.
Less colorful lego
working on the first try taking a couple hours troubleshooting
Not once have I had this happen to me
I bought the parts to put one together, but didn't realize the mobo was a dud until everything was connected but the PSU didn't spin on. Had to disconnect everything, test the PSU using the paperclip method, and send in the mobo for RMA. I also had to purchase a new tube of thermal paste and protective adhesive washers for the AIO cooler mobo mount since I can't detach the original ones from the old mobo. Feels bad man.
do you have at least 91iq?
then you will be fine