>her va is a lesbian
First of all, lesbians aren't real because female sexuality is not fixed, second of all, her VA is a young white woman, and they all claim to be lesbian/bisexual/genderfluid to wear the rainbow flag as a shield. Being a normal vanilla white woman opens you up to scrutiny from online leftists like you're potentially every -ic and -ist word in the dictionary.
He's such a shit irrelevant character. Feels so forced on the group, specially because he's two dimensional evil with zero remorse and zero character growth.
Camille in Pathfinder at least hid the fact she's a psychopath.
>Camille in Pathfinder at least hid the fact she's a psychopath.
the girl with half of her battle lines screaming about blood running in the streets and literally without irony the dialog states she licks her lips anytime blood is mentioned.
that one?
>Camille in Pathfinder at least hid the fact she's a psychopath.
the girl with half of her battle lines screaming about blood running in the streets and literally without irony the dialog states she licks her lips anytime blood is mentioned.
that one?
i don't really like how pathfinder plays or how its written. i felt this way before i ever played a larain game and i felt this way last week when bg3 made me want to give wotr another shot. rogue trader beta is kind of fun tho so idik
yeah WOTR and bg3 both suffer from "modern fantasy writing". Where characters "will, like, talk lik this, we really fragged that troll senpai". They do it on purpose to make the game feel more accessible. You see that shit everywhere in modern fantasy writing.
I thought kingmaker was the much better game writing wise, but if you just cant get into the autism of making builds you are just not going to like any game using the system.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What are you talking about
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't understand what you don't understand. But i'm not looking for an argument either. Good luck to you.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your example of how the characters talk doesn't make any sense whatsoever or is poorly explained
9 months ago
Anonymous
Then the writing is made for you in mind, you should be enjoying it. I'm going to guess you got filtered by the gameplay and are just making excuses then.
>two dimensional evil
Not really, his entire backstory is him being made a vampire thrall and forced to abduct victims for Cazador under threat of torture. And he had to do that for something like 170 years.
Its boring to me and I dont care for his backstory, honestly. In fact him being a rogue doesn't suit him he'd work best as a bard. But then he wouldn't be the edgy vampire rogue who acts like a psycho but actually wants to be loved. Made for fanfic writers in mind.
You can tell the person that created Astarion is an annoying tumblrtard however the rest of the writers and the VA made the character much better than expected.
Astarion actually reminded me of the more classical vampires akin to Interview with the Vampire and such with all the gay lust and betrayal. But there definitely was some sexually frustrated tumblr person in the dev team because everyone in the game wants to have sex all the time. It actually became comical to me when even the emperor invites you to his dream half-naked and wants to frick.
But back to the point, I actually liked Astarion because he was such a stereotypical vampire. I don't think that a tumblr homosexual would have the guts to create a character as traditional as him. He might fit in as a bard more gameplay-wise but when people think of bards they think of happy people singing and performing. Astarion isn't really like that, he's a cunning butthole that dislikes people.
Not really. He is not as cool as Lestat or Alucard or D, or anything of the sort. Definitely more a loser that is seething about the way he was used and now wants to be in a position of power so he doesnt get used. I feed into his delusions halfway but in multiple times he has shown that he is not a mastermind nor can he divise plans so his true ambition is lacking. He admits he is not a "details person" and just goes with the chaotic flow. He still is very charismatic despite his shortcomings which is why he would work as a sassy bard.
So it might interest you to know that the entire concept of the vampire comes from Stokers fear of homosexuality. In his journal, he writes about a nightmare he had where a man overpowered him and sucked his neck. Vampires are explicitly gay coded and the beginning of the book where Jonathon Harker is menaced by Dracula is Stokers fear of homosexuality. So really, vampires are all gay. I read this in the introduction to this edition of Dracula.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Bram stroker more like
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the entire concept of the vampire comes from Stokers fear of homosexuality
the concept of vampires mainly comes from eastern european folklore you moron, bram popularized one idea of them
9 months ago
Anonymous
…..and bram stoker created the most well known and mythologized version of it. What’s the problem?
9 months ago
Anonymous
you said he came up with the entire concept, which he didn't. vampires aren't all gay and stokers depiction is one of many you moronic goalpost mover
9 months ago
Anonymous
the concept of vampires in pop culture as anyone knows them today is based of stoker that's clearly what anon meant and he isn't wrong you pedantic fricking autistic moron
9 months ago
Anonymous
>dozens of different vampire depictions in pop culture >erm ackshually it's just this one
go suck on cold gay vampire dick homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
there's dozens based off dracula as the starting point, not dozens based off some fricking slave folklore no one is even aware exists
9 months ago
Anonymous
>who are the strigoi in warhammer fantasy >who are the nosferatu in vampire the masquerade >who are the ancient vampires in the witcher >who are the vampires in heroes of might and magic
could've just said you're an ignorant westerner
9 months ago
Anonymous
yes like I said >3rd world slav folklore no one gives a flying frick about
9 months ago
Anonymous
>my gay oc is the only real one >nah, gays are nasty >NUH UH
this is why vampires are no longer popular, nobody wants gay vampires and that's a fact, they are written for women and gays and they have ZERO taste.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>this is why vampires are no longer popular
Citation needed
9 months ago
Anonymous
>this is why vampires are no longer popular
huh?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>archetypes completely different from stoker's dracula used throughout popular franchises, including the the one that revolves solely around vampires >no one gives a flying frick about
willfully ignorant AND moronic at the same time
9 months ago
Anonymous
>one clan out of a dozen in vampire isn't derived from stoker vampires therefore I win
lol ok
9 months ago
Anonymous
>banu haqim are all middle eastern >gangrel are all feral >nosferatu all look like count orlok >tzimisce are all inspired by the eastern european folklore >the chinese vampires >warhammer fantasy vampires all have their clans based off of different vampire the masquerade clans
it's almost like you don't know what the frick you're talking about
9 months ago
Anonymous
What do you think the argument is? You started sperging out at some anon who said Dracula is the basis of cultural relevance for vampires in modern times. That is just factually correct. There would probably be no Vampire franchise if Dracula was never written or gained the popularity it did. If you don't think so you're just moronic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Dracula is the basis of cultural relevance for vampires in modern times
is not >the entire concept of the vampire comes from Stokers fear of homosexuality
9 months ago
Anonymous
the vast majority of vampires as they are depicted in popular media for the past century are 100% derivative of Stroker's Dracula. it's kind of like Tolkien's dwarves and elves. sure, he didn't *invent* the concepts of either, but that doesn't change the fact that dwarves and elves in modern western fantasy settings are clearly based on Tolkien dwarves and elves.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I read this in the introduction
Don't fricking read introductions. They are written by people to give "context"
Nope. Traditional vampires are vile creatures of the night feeding on virgins and destroying innocence, driven by an inhuman urge without any true explanation and their entire psychology is essentially post-human. Interview with the vampire is written for women to jerk off.
>The whole "Vampires are sexy boys" ruined them.
No, it's what actually drove them to popularity because vampires weren't that much of a concept until that
9 months ago
Anonymous
One of the first horror movies was literally Nosferatu though.
From the 20th century.
One of the most famous renditions before gaypires was the dude that played Saruman.
Nobody likes gaypires but gays and women.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why haven't those stood the test of time, Anon? If nobody likes gay vampires, why are they the only the only thing keeping vampires relevant today?
People who say you didn't play the game reminds me of twitter hags screaming "russian bot" whenever someone disagreed with them, btfod them or hurt their feelings.
I guess when you have no arguments the best you can come up with is "NOOO NOOO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOSE THE VIDYA DISCUSSION BECAUSE UHHH THE ANON DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME oof!"
W-what? how do i know he didn't play it? W-well because he hurt my feelings and i have no comeback 🙁
Maybe but in this case it is glaringly obvious that. Astarion has the most character growth out of all the companions. Shadowheart changes a lot too but she was brainwashed anyway so it's not as impactful as Astarion's story and growth.
All the romances make more sense as hetero. Gale's backstory is specifically about him being hetero, Lae'zel's whole dance of dominance makes more sense if you're a man, Karlach says she wants to ride you which can't really be done as a lesbian
9 months ago
Anonymous
>All the romances make more sense as hetero
Yes, it's called reproduction and evolution.
Maybe if you play AS him, otherwise he is so fricking gay. God made gay men for a reason, and its because women CANNOT handle an effeminate psycho male, only other men can.
The problem is the effeminate psycho thing is a poorly disguised facade which you pick up on pretty immediately if you don't have autism. Why he is like this I don't know yet. But it's putting me off. His affect seems like it would only work on women. I'm playing a male Tav and even though I'm romancing him I feel like the appropriate response is to tell him hes cringe and to get real
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Why he is like this
Of course you don't get it, he is a SUB that thinks he needs to be a DOM. His whole arc with his master is about being in an abusive toxic gay relationship. If you look at calidor as his current BF, that he is trying to escape, the whole thing starts to make sense. Or it doesn't, because youre a women. Maybe you have been in a situation where life is so shit that it starts to infect your personality? Thats him.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This sounds like a woman's understanding of some shitty psychological mind rape thing but with a gay twist!
9 months ago
Anonymous
have a nice day trannoid
9 months ago
Anonymous
>straightoid in the closet is obsessed with trannies
go suck a dick homosexual
9 months ago
Anonymous
>obsessed
people hate you for being a mentally ill homosexual freak and groomer of children but rentfree cope all you want troony
he start out strong but then turn quite needly and desperate as the time go on
compare to gale who keep going on and on bragging about his imaginary girlfriend
I wish I cut off his hand at the portal instead
That's a different potion entirely. I'm talking about the one you get when she fangirls over Astarion and wants him to give her the succ out in Moonrise Tower. You get a potion out of it that permanently gives you +2 STR.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I figured since you mentioned her being in Baldur's Gate you were also referring to the explosive blood thing.
If you paid attention in the game he hasn't feeded and hence why he is trying to suck your blood - he's weakened which would explain why he is slower on the draw.
>so kill him and get the literally soulless hireling from withers
Why would you need a soulless hireling? There are enough companions to get rid of all males. Can even get rid of the frog later.
He’s objectively the strongest character in the game >Get him to act 3 >Ascend >Respec into GWM fighter >cast haste
Congrats you now have 12 attacks per round with +20 damage each
he is already my strongest character with thief fighter multi class
with haste he just attack so many time but I guess that is the case for every fighter
Is it even possible to gain his friendship to 100 without romancing? I keep him in the party all the time and it's still around 70 even after his ascension
you can't develop a "deep" friendship with a gay person without having sex with them, as superficial sex is literally the most important thing to the queer community
this game is extremely realistic in that regard
During the ending >Gale gets a scene about getting the crown back and becoming a god >Same with Lae'zel becoming a wandering vagabond >Astarion gets a funny 10 second scene where he runs away from the sun
Oh come on just like that and I never see him again?
Not him but I persuaded him not to ascend for RP sake and told him to kill the spawn, but in doing so I broke my oath as a paladin
Absolute insanity, but I had to let them go.
During the ending >Gale gets a scene about getting the crown back and becoming a god >Same with Lae'zel becoming a wandering vagabond >Astarion gets a funny 10 second scene where he runs away from the sun
Oh come on just like that and I never see him again?
Hmm I didn't see that gale scene at all he just said he would search for the crown in the ocean
Letting the vampires loose broke my oath as an ancients paladin. But it does make sense, you're being extremely irresponsible if you just send them off into the wilds, they're starving and dangerous. I let them stay in the cages so that they can be screened and the ones that can resist their urges can go free and the rest get staked.
What are your options in that? I only played evil so far so it was a forgone conclusion that he would sacrifice all their lives and ascend. What are the “good” options?
Afaik you have three options, you either release, destroy, or keep them imprisoned. The last option is obviously the sensible one, though a CG/CN character might be more inclined to release them.
Then the gur show up and b***h at you regardless of what you did.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Gur accepted me releasing them all. They all went to the Underdark so it's not really the worst thing in the world
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah they accept it but they b***h at you still. >Oh you released them good job butthole now there are 7000 vampire spawn running around and hurting innocents >Oh you left them in their cells why couldn't you even finish the job you pathetic wimp
They're impossible to please.
And yes the Underdark is probably the least bad place for everyone involved, though it's pretty likely that the drow or duergar are just going to finish them off.
You missed out on Lae'zel becomes a fricking dragonrider and ascends which is twice as good if you play as gith and romance her because you get your own dragon and get to ride off with her
Yes. I played nice in the Creche but then convinced her that Vlaakith was a piece of shit before the fighting all started. In the ending, she rides a dragon with Orpheus to kill her
Absolutely. I didn't even need to roll for it iirc, just having put L'z in the purge chair was enough to convince her that something was off. Then you deny the inquisitor when he asks for the artifact, then you enter the prism and have a chat with Emps. Later on Vlaakith shows up at the camp again and makes some more demands and L'z should tell her to frick off then even without any input from you
Yes, she even goes through all the stages of coping and seething where she convinces herself the de-worming chair has been tampered with and the scientist operating it is a traitor
You mean, you’re going to be his vampire spawn slave and he’s going to rule and degrade you like a gay sex slave. He’s going to be just like cazador eventually.
The vampires of this game are straight out of the description of D&D lore in 5e, but even more so the description in 2e. Astarion changes as soon as he’s ascended and gets even more evil.
Jokes on him though, in my dark urge play my character became his spawn and then mind controlled everyone with the power of the brain. So he missed his chance in making my character a thrall and became one himself. Oh and so did Shadowheart and minthara, but it’s hard to get excited about those two since they didn’t have direct influence over my character
>using that instead of all of the super damaging gloves since gloves are most competitive spot in your whole gear
honestly no wonder you morons struggle on babby mode Tactician lmao
Wyll and Astarion swapped places in my head
I liked black weeb dude at first and found the sassy vampire annoying, but by the end I loved Astarion and fricked Wyll’s demon while he watched
Wyll can barely be considered a character. Karlach is annoying and i think worse but wyll is just basic. he really shouldn't be. hes a noble larping as a hero by using a demon for power. there's an interesting story somewhere in that, but those last min rewrites must have fricked something up or larain just didn't care about him either
He actually had some character in the early access. He was a complete butthole though, but even that is better than the bland and simple Black person we got now.
I tried to ignore Wyll and not take him in my party but he snuck into my camp by force so I killed him in the camp. Now his body is in my camp forever and his blood is all over my bedroll. It’s kind annoying, I tried to hide his body in a crate but it just resets every time I return to camp.
I'm gonna fricking kill myself. I can't cope knowing that everyone now considers BG3 the greatest game of all time. There's just no point living in this clown world that hates chuds. Goodbye cruel world, I'm roping.
>Highest Rated Game of All Time on Opencritic >Highest Rated PC Game of All Time on Metacritic >Overwhelmingly Positive Steam Reviews >Top 10 Most Popular Steam Games of All Time >Top 5 Most Popular Singleplayer Steam Games of All Time >875K Concurrent Players
Normies gonna normie
At least with its success we can expect another divinity game with more build kinos, no matter how insufferable the rest of the game will be
Normies gonna normie
At least with its success we can expect another divinity game with more build kinos, no matter how insufferable the rest of the game will be
>have to get three friends to join your game and make their own characters to get a full custom party >problem is that they can't be kicked from the party at all if you don't want them anymore or want to make a new one
It's kind of funny you can frick over a friend's save by joining their game and making a character since the default join option is "Friends only". The game is extremely lacking in forethought QoL-wise.
>flamboyantly gay blood addict vampire >flamboyantly gay drug addict wizard >some black guy who is a member of the League of Devil Hunters Guild from DivOS
aight lets go devil hunting. You know Jahan, bro?
Man I was so ready to hate Wyll; I expected him to be a smug dickhead, a swashbuckling smug butthole.
But the guy was a legit G. The guy actually cares about being a Devil Hunter and though he has a bit of a dashing side, the fact he goes "Frick it I'd rather be a devil looking motherfricker than kill someone innocent" is respectable.
He's also the only guy not expecting me to carry all his problems.
>Man I was so ready to hate Wyll; I expected him to be a smug dickhead, a swashbuckling smug butthole.
that would've been way better than the lukewarm cup of lemon water we got
You can: >never recruit him in your party >kick him out of your party >kill him
If you are keeping him in your party it is because of your own choices.
Hey man, it was a mutually beneficial agreement. He's a vampire, he sucks blood to live. She wanted the suck, and was willing to offer a potion for it. Sure he prattles on about how shit her blood tastes but before he got mindflayerd he had been living off of rats and even a boar. Compared to that I don't see how drow blood is specially bad. Hell, even more so with my campaign considering that I had him bite the hag to heal himself.
You have to play as a drow to pass the lore check, but her family in menzoberanzan is rumored to frick mind flayers. And I guess have children with them, which is why their blood is polluted and smells/tastes like shit.
That makes no sense. Astarion has a tadpole in his head. If anything it should make her blood more palatable to him. It's not like a regular vampire is repulsed by the taste of human blood.
Except after biting her he straight up says her blood tastes all sorts of wrong and vile.
Did you even play the game?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>hates doing something >you make him do it >says he hated doing it just so you get it
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not talking about why he hates doing it you comprehension challenged idiot. An anon made a comment about lore on why her drow blood tastes bad, stating it's likely due to fricking mindflayers. I said that doesn't add up because the party being on the road to becoming mindflayers themselves should make mindflayer blood palatable as it's not like human vampires find human blood to be disgusting to eat.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>people literally never lie or put on an act to cope and everything they say is true
Definitly autism. Seek help
You guys are social morons. Astarion hates it not because of the blood (which may or may not taste disgusting). It's because he hates when people use him as an object in a transaction. Fricking autists i fricking swear
Hey man, I said he didn't have to, but a potion could be good. He didn't have any issues sucking on my neck. I felt really bad about it afterwards
Yeah I also picked the choice that was along the lines of "hey your call dude" and he capitulated. I've seen other people pick that option and it ending up with him going "oh seriously? no then" so I must've missed the trigger for that.
NTA but I think Astarion's shit is just bugged.. He's almost always disapproved of my actions and I gave him the choice to do it and he still did it, and resented doing it to where I no longer have an affection bar for him.
I'm fully aware of how the affection system does its thing. I'm saying that of all my companions Astarion has disapproved my actions the most, which means of all of my companions he likes me the least. Even with that low approval rating he still drank the blood for me, which means him doing it for you is probably just buggy shit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If he likes you he won't do it, if you leave it up to him.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>if he likes you he'll only want to suck yiur blood
Based loyal vampire spawn looking for true love. Very kawaii
Im in general confused by the affection system. Seems like some companions gain it while in camp, while others dont. Just all around confusing or bugged
He's power hungry and selfish. He should be evil but it's quite inconsistent >help one child, he approves >help another child, he disapproves
Nevertheless any selfish action should bring approval with him. Larian didn't have guts to make him an actual evil character because then women would not like him
I think that this is one of the biggest problems in the game regarding the companions. They don't follow their motives and you can always just easily neutralize them if they start causing trouble. Everyone also becomes a lot more soft-hearted in the long run for some reason, even Lae'zel.
There should've been way more infighting at the camp between the followers if you ask me, everyone there is pretty fricking dangerous and/or mistrusting except for Halsin.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone there is pretty fricking dangerous and/or mistrusting except for Halsin
Wrong.
Scratch and the Owlbear also trust you completely.
9 months ago
Anonymous
True. It would've made for an interesting cutscene if Astarion tried to feed on them.
He actually had some character in the early access. He was a complete butthole though, but even that is better than the bland and simple Black person we got now.
That's a shame. It's like "good Wyll" was automatically set as the starting point for him, deleting his whole character grow arc completely. It's pretty obvious that the player had choices to guide him to become even more devilish or more righteous, hence the corrupted half-human half-devil look in the first place. It's also very obvious that he was supposed to clash with Karlach a lot more.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>he was supposed to clash with Karlach a lot more.
Yeah that's obvious. At the moment it's just one quarrel they have right when they meet each other and then they become normal buttbuddies like everyone else in your party. It's ridiculous.
>play the game second time >get to astarion personal quest >"i'll do it differently this time" >all dialogue options with cazador lead to boss fight >after the fight denying the ritual makes astarion leave the party and quest ends >ok maybe if I let the ritual start but interrupt it >astarion becomes hostile and quest ends
this game is legit dogshit
If you even ask him about it he gets really upset and ends with “don’t ask me again.” I have not forced him in both plays so I’d like to hear it. I imagine it tanks his opinion of you though. It should unironically be you holding down your party members and forcing the tadpole in them, literally mind raping them
>do first long rest >Gayle stands at fire "to hell with you" >answer "wow same to you too ya bastard!" >Gayle disapproves -1
god this game is so fricking moronic, nobody can take a joke, but you are expected to forgive people holding knives at your throat in an instant
At the start of my solo run I sneak attacked his ass before even talking to him once.
You absolutely can kill him. Did the same with Shart while she's unconscious on the beach.
ok, pulling the knife on me first time we meet I kind maybe overlook, I mean almost everyone you meet on the road is hostile anyways, doesn't seem that unreasonable
but then sneaking on me at night? No way gay
>bawd
He's the most loyal of all companions and doesn't fantasize about getting beared and having a gang bang, unlike some. He's the actual loyal trad wife you people wanted
Astarion's good endings are all super good >settle down >go on adventures as heroes >try to find a way to make him a sunwalker
And he even needs a bit of reassurance because he thinks you're too good for him. >more faithful, traditional and loving than the female cast
I honestly found his whole self-actualization touching after I told him >homie don't do what you don't want to do you're a free man
in regards to the slimy hot-topic drow wanting him to give her the succ. Dude started to get self-respect for himself and realize he could say no. Honestly he's the best written rape victim I've seen in fiction.
I had an existential crisis when I've met him due to my mc being pic rel rogue. Didn't know if I should restart with him as the mc or do a different character
In the end I've robbed him naked and killed him so it worked out fine
I made my character to look like me but dragon born. Looked Identical to the fruity Dragonborn guy in the sewers with the burnt corpse. Tripped me the frick out hard.
>some ugly drow niggress asks my boy Astarion for some sucky sucky in exchange for some moron strength potion or whatever >Brostarion doesn't want to >tell that b***h to get bent
It's stupid you don't get an ending where he turns you into a vampire considering he mentions that to become a free vampire you must get bit then suck the blood from the one who turned you
No, it's not stupid at all. You're just a brainlet who has missed the point of his plotline though i agree it would have been cool to be two piece of shit vampires terrorizing baldur's gate together
i'm sick of gale and i'm not even in act 3 >starts alright >enjoy his dialogues >he tries to romance me >decline >romance lae'zel >he tries to romance me AGAIN >decline >get lae'zel confession >he asks me if we're no longer together?????
WHat the frick did he mean by did? I skipped both gay baits and the game still triggered some flags. I'm not even capped on his relation, it's at like 50% because i keep being evil.
I cant trust people complaining about Gale anymore. I flat out told him I was down to frick and he brushed it off all embarrassed. So how can he be a pushy rapist as well? Shit don't add up.
I said ok to his magic trick. was just him making some blue shit and giving me a bit of a buzz or something then next thing i know it starts getting gayer and gayer and he gets closer and closer and I had to be all WHOOA MATE SETTLE DOWN stop with the gay shit.
Then he starts talking about our romance. Was the magic trick trying to trick a straight man into fricking him?
Did you make your feelings clear during the weave scene? Having your character imagine kissing Gale? If so, you’re locked in you’ll just have to wait until act 2 where it further develops and finally culminates.
We return to your adventure after vanquishing the giant ass spider b***h hiding under a burnt down as frick goblin infested city. Your super fricking gay elf vampire companion you need to unlock chests and shit is fully erect and ready to cross this bullshit bridge to continue dealing with the goblins
We return to your adventure after vanquishing the giant ass spider b***h hiding under a burnt down as frick goblin infested city. Your super fricking gay elf vampire companion you need to unlock chests and shit is fully erect and ready to cross this bullshit bridge to continue dealing with the goblins
Made a custom character instead of using one of the premade ones and I'm probably missing out on some story
ehhh generally no
the durge plotline isn't particularly interesting and you're already a solid chunk into act 1. The main thing that's fun about it is the companions treating you differently
>Moonrise Towers >literally EVERY ZEALOT Thunderous Smites twice per turn or drops a 36 Lay on Hands heal >they have limited charges for LoH but not for Smites
for literally what purpose
>martialposting >in 5e of all things
Even without using objectively broken shit like Danse Macabre or magic missile added damage stacking casters in this game can crank out 150 a turn when you stack them all the way up. 5e has a martial problem anon we don't have to pretend here.
you're a fricking moron because you can put those SHITTY zombies on any class; my fricking monk had them.
And you know what? They do nothing but make turns take longer.
Have fun gumming through encounters slow as frick while I'm grinding the boss into paste in 1 round with two martials with haste.
This isn't 5e, moron. This is Baldur's Gate 3, a Larian Homebrew. Try beating the game first you moronic cuck.
>Y-y-you didn't beat the game look I did!!!!! >I know you said you weren't even counting the ghouls but look I can do it too!!!! >Look look look I can do as much damage as you can to a single target, ignore the fact that you're killing 5+ others at the same time IGNORE IT
Good god the cope here is real. Look I get it you like martials but you don't need to suck their wiener this hard. I admit they are pretty great at single target but who're we fooling here, man? Casters are the shit, end of story.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no proof because he didn't beat the game >seething wall of cope
concession etc etc accept etc etc
9 months ago
Anonymous
post you killing the netherbrain, Orin, or Raphael in one turn with casters. I can reload my last save and post one right now but you 100% won't, guaranteed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
because he can't and even water->lightning shit is like 200 damage max and doesn't come close to monk
9 months ago
Anonymous
Netherbrain can die in 1 turn, so can raphael
But orin has 10 unstoppable so i doubt that.
I took Raphael in 2 turns and idk netherbrain, it died quickly because i had scrolls saved up, with raphael i smited him to death in 2 attacks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>with raphael i smited him
Yes, sure. We're talking about castercucks though, not paladins smiting for 250 damage.
And Orin can absolutely die in one round.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>And Orin can absolutely die in one round.
how?
9 months ago
Anonymous
She only has 10 stacks. Knock off the 10 stacks, which a monk by himself can do, or a swords bard. You get an achievement for ignoring the casters and just blowing her up.
If you don't kill her, she will get more stacks though.
9 months ago
Anonymous
multi hit attacks like monk fists, magic missiles etc
9 months ago
Anonymous
Multi-damage type hits break the shield quicker. I had Astarion Dual-Wielding crossbows and broke her entire shield with 3 shots and then had my MC and Lae'zel absolutely prolapse her. She didn't even get a turn. I honestly had more trouble with the cultists afterwards.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You need 10 hits to break 10 unstoppable
9 months ago
Anonymous
Like I said, different damage types break 1 point off. Just having the ring that adds acid damage would give an extra 3 separate hits to break that. I also added fire damage to the crossbows so that's another 3. My Monk had 4 different damage types every time he punched so it was even easier with him to break those shields.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So let's a play a game, moron-kun. If I flurry of blows and hit twice for ONE BA, and I hit with 2 poison, 4 force, 8 radiant, and 24 physical, twice, how many hits to the shield do I do?
9 months ago
Anonymous
casters can't count without going to sleep first
9 months ago
Anonymous
I've not got the game installed but I can do some simple math for you here, moron-kun.
4 Casters, 4 Freecast, drop the bonus action zone down on your casters and have each be splashed by a haste pot or simply pre-cast haste. This setup leads to
4 disintegrates with forced fails via div is 200 damage minimum. If the target is still alive you still have 4 chain lightnings + another 4 5th level magic missiles. Or even just another 4 disintegrates. This easily cracks 500 damage unless you literally get minimum rolls and fails on everything possible then, yes you can fall under the 450 needed for the brain one turn. But if you instead decide to go full abuse you can:
Drac sorc + Lightning charge = each magic missile dealing 1d4+7 damage. Or 8 min per missile, 24 for a first level slot and 64 for a 6th. So with 8 casts of it at 6th, you're dealing 512 unmissable damage(except for the shield spell of course). This is on top of having yet still another full 4 casts worth of 5th level spells to go if you are in a bubble.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>let me just theory...
*takes long rest* >...craft this shit instead of ....
*load screen* >...posting an easy to screenshot...
*takes another long rest* >...achievement
lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
I went over this in a post you were too moronic to read but heres some proof for you, 1st-grade reading comprehension anon. 33h playtime with a save right before the boat.
9 months ago
Anonymous
so as stated, you're a storymode shitter still in act 1 who is too moronic to figure out how to use the strongest classes in the game that is obvius to anyone with 3 brain cells >The class balancing is absolutely fricked. Wizard falls off early-on and Warlock falls off in act 3 when Sorceror can use twinned cast with Chain Lightning and clear 90% of the enemies in any given fight. It feels like the entire game is just tooled around running a sorceror, a bard/cleric that's geared around buffs, and then two physical beatsticks like monk/fighter/paladin that just wail on a big target and remove them from combat on the first turn.
yup
9 months ago
Anonymous
mean to quote
Act 1 is the only difficult part of the game even on Tactician.
It's kinda hilarious how much of a difficulty spike you get out of the Nere fight, or even doing the three goblin leaders without long resting. Then you get to Act 2 and everything folds like a lawn chair even if you haven't been scouring the map for magical items.
The class balancing is absolutely fricked. Wizard falls off early-on and Warlock falls off in act 3 when Sorceror can use twinned cast with Chain Lightning and clear 90% of the enemies in any given fight. It feels like the entire game is just tooled around running a sorceror, a bard/cleric that's geared around buffs, and then two physical beatsticks like monk/fighter/paladin that just wail on a big target and remove them from combat on the first turn.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You sound like a Dark Souls kiddie screeching because someone said his "impossible" game was too easy.
Please start jakposting so my filter catches you, thanks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm the one that said the game was easy as shit in the first place you illiterate fricking moron
9 months ago
Anonymous
hes just baiting hard at any post giving him advice
9 months ago
Anonymous
what advice? I beat the game. YOU need advice to beat it and the advice is: martials are OP as shit with haste.
You're just seething and coping over it for whatever reason.
9 months ago
Anonymous
not any of those anons but what classes have haste?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not to play the devil's advocate here but haste potions exist, anon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Last D&D game I played was NWN2 I think
I hardly remember shit about the rules and subclasses apart from it's really easy to frick up and make shitty builds if you don't read shit first
9 months ago
Anonymous
So what you're saying is they are better off using haste than nuking? Interesting.
Also, your haste pots, anon? The easiest and cheapest pots to make? Those pots?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine you spent all game terrible as frick, shooting magic missile 2 times and then having to go to sleep. It's Tactician, so CC barely works and there is not a lot of DC increasing gear in the game.
Finally, you get to end game and you smile knowing your time has FINALLY arrived at level 11
but then you see Fighter got his third attack and just explodes the whole battlefield in one turn
That is why they seethe
9 months ago
Anonymous
1 turned Orin with twincast disintegrate and an action left over to twincast chain lightning all of her minions to death too
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I cast a spell into an immune person and then chain lighting cast into a bunch of dudes under Sanctuary
imagine lying online and getting found out instantly because you're a moron who has zero clue what he's talking about
LMAO
LOL
9 months ago
Anonymous
lmao i literally did it so you're just going to have to cope
i think you're just mad other people found more efficient strategies than you, even when those strategies are extremely obvious
9 months ago
Anonymous
>lmao i literally did this thing that is not possible trust me bro my dad works for Larian I know how to make lighting damage go through sanctuary I programmed the game to do it believe me
9 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
Actually embarrassing.
he is probably that guy earlier in the thread who admitted to using a trainer, that's why it worked
L
O
L
9 months ago
Anonymous
>casters are so OP bro I just turn on my trainer and look how OP I am
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's obviously not impossible because i did it. i'll concede it could have been bugged because act 3 is a mess, but that's what happened
duel started
i won initiative
she died on the second disintegrate
9 months ago
Anonymous
>it's obviously not impossible because i did it. i'll concede it could have been bugged because act 3 is a mess, but that's what happened >duel started >i won initiative >she died on the second disintegrate
9 months ago
Anonymous
doubling down wasn't the right move here. Leaving the thread in shame was
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I cast a spell into an immune person and then chain lighting cast into a bunch of dudes under Sanctuary
imagine lying online and getting found out instantly because you're a moron who has zero clue what he's talking about
LMAO
LOL
Actually embarrassing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
1 turn Orin on a caster is easy. Not sure about Raphael.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You literally can't do it. This is why the webm has not been posted. She can't be knocked off the ledge anymore btw if that's what homosexual ass shit you're thinking.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nah you can do it. Pre-buff Haste and magic missile the Unstoppable away, then just twincast whatever you want, probably lightning damage maximized from Cleric multiclass.
You couldn't do it on just any caster, but then pure class wizard blows
9 months ago
Anonymous
Eh actually that would work but you need sorc, yeah.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That was how I did it, but I can't remember if it was lightning or not. I wasn't even trying to do it, the b***h just up and died. Disintegrate would probably work, except it's no damage on save IIRC so quite risky. If you wanted to get extra cheeky you could pre-buff with that worm power that lets you use bonus actions as actions, hit the b***h a third time.
I think if I put effort into 1 turning Raphael I could 100% do it, martial players need to chill out lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
Disintegrate would work if you saved scummed it but you still have to remove the shield first. The shield that the other guy didn't know existed
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Disintegrate would work if you saved scummed
Nah, just use your Divination die from your 1 level wizard dip 😉
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lots of abilities bypass it though that's almost certainly a bug. Does she even have Unstoppable in the duel vs Dark Urge form of the fight?
9 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but I did run into 2 bugs with unstoppable pre-hotfixes. One where it never fell off and one where they never started with it on in the first place. Could be that but who knows.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lots of abilities bypass it though that's almost certainly a bug. Does she even have Unstoppable in the duel vs Dark Urge form of the fight?
No, she doesn't have Unstoppable if you duel her as Dark Urge, because that buff comes from her minions, who don't participate in that case. Anon called it a duel. The moronic cuck was martials, as always.
He's definitely the most fun to have around with second going to Lae'zel. I get a kick out of him disapproving whenever you do anything that isn't comically evil
>Heals over 60 health in the party in one turn once per short rest in your path.
How can any party afford to not have a life cleric? This shit is great.
The game gives you enough money to just burn potions through every fight even if it's your first playthrough. It's kinda insane how thoroughly you can turn fights upside down with items.
Though Act 3 is where the difficulty tumbles off of a cliff even if you're not raiding every shop for legendary items.
by act 1 you should be at 5k by act 2 10k and by end of act 3 30k+ even after buying whatever you wanted, the game didnt finish crafting so all crafting mats are vendor trash.
Loot what you can, you can loot EVERYTHING and send it to camp, then just camp > trader back and forth until its all sold, and if vendor is broke.
wait with vendoring until all 4 level up, then empty vendor gold, level 1 character, you can now empty vendor again and repeat 4 times without resting.
Not on tactician, stop playing explorer. In act 3 I actually went out of my way to steal to make money to buy the 15k gold heavy armor from the tiefling smith.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I have finished the game twice now with 90+ hour playthroughs on tactician, re-read what i posted and stop coping like a moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're a homosexual that plays CHA characters and only equips his main 4. Go kys shitlord.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>y...you're..b..bad because I ...p..play l..like a.a.a.moron..
lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
kys homosexual, if you can't admit that you've been playing on easy mode this whole time there is no helping you
9 months ago
Anonymous
lmao
you're a fricking moron because you can put those SHITTY zombies on any class; my fricking monk had them.
And you know what? They do nothing but make turns take longer.
Have fun gumming through encounters slow as frick while I'm grinding the boss into paste in 1 round with two martials with haste.
This isn't 5e, moron. This is Baldur's Gate 3, a Larian Homebrew. Try beating the game first you moronic cuck.
now post yours you little lying homosexual
oh wait, you won't because you're on story mode and you haven't finished the game
9 months ago
Anonymous
Currently on tactician at the end of act 1 and I'm up to 8k gold.
Why aren't you looting bodies? Why aren't you searching containers? Merchant inventories reset on long rest, you should be able to sell everything you find, though even that's a bit excessive for how much money you wind up needing.
You should never run out of cash if you're actually playing the game and not just rushing between plot fights. Maybe if you're in act 3 and loading up on smokepowder arrows?
>Gale was a master-level mage on par with Elminster >Karlach was the personal slaughter-monkey of an archdevil who lead campaigns in the blood war >Wyll was an immensely powerful warlock who could summon hell beasts and take on groups by himself >Astarion was the personal pet project of an incredibly powerful vampire >Shadowheart and Lae'zel were disposable low-level mooks in their organizations, and between the two of them only Shadowheart had any kind of special position regarding the prism
So Lae'zel is basically the designated "CRPG main character" if you didn't pick Tav, fricking wild.
Thinking about Durge bard, with 3 other bards and become a travelling serial killer mariachi band earning our gold fair and square then hacking and slashing our audience.
Knock him into the pit next to him or use one of those void grenades to pull him in and then sneak out through the underdark temple if you cant fast travel away. If you're aggroing everyone else in that room just have them pick each other off with crown of madness from the rafters first. If you do it that way you could easily kill the guy legit and loot him and then sneak out without fighting the entire place
it's not just the boss, after I killed the drow during the attack on the grove the whole camp including the outside bits is hostile, that's a lot of trash mobs to smack before I even reach him
I will probably do it but it still feels a bit like a chore and also the fact I don't really care about the plot or characters yet doesn't really help
If you don't care about his loot can't you just run to him with invisibility and cast him into the pit with a single party member then either get away or die and res that party member at camp
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's not just the boss, after I killed the drow during the attack on the grove the whole camp including the outside bits is hostile, that's a lot of trash mobs to smack before I even reach him
I will probably do it but it still feels a bit like a chore and also the fact I don't really care about the plot or characters yet doesn't really help
If you need to get him out of the throne close to the edge first just use minor illusion
Knock him into the pit next to him or use one of those void grenades to pull him in and then sneak out through the underdark temple if you cant fast travel away. If you're aggroing everyone else in that room just have them pick each other off with crown of madness from the rafters first. If you do it that way you could easily kill the guy legit and loot him and then sneak out without fighting the entire place
martials run the show in this game but your priest should have great nukes and your haste guy should be a lock with sorc levels for haste, ST damage, and nukes.
There's no reason why you can't have it all.
>martials do 75% of the team damage >gust of wind >the enemies are instagibbed after falling to their deaths >NOOO WE ARE THE ONES DOING THE DAMAGE
Martials are all morons i see.
yeah chasm deaths are a moron trap because they're so easy to pull off. I don't brother other than yeeting the spider matriarch into the underdark unless it's an absolute trash mob I know won't drop shit
>act 3 >find Wyll's father at the ceremony >Mizora appear in my camp after the ceremony, apparently his father is dead when I literally did nothing yet? >say yes to the pact to revive him >Father back in my camp alive >Florick is mad at wyll because he killed his father??? >shit's probably bug but ok >do a bunch of quest >find the submarine, try to save everyone in the prison >Wyll's father is there and I save him despite him being in my camp already
Man that entire questline was completely bugged for me.
>watching friend stream >complaining that warlock does no damage >notice he doesn't have hex >tell him he should probably pick it up >"dont tell me how to play"
and i never will again
Are people actually playing on easy or story mode? Balanced or normal isn't that hard unless you're moronic. I did have to savescum past the spider b***h fight at the very end though
i have never played dnd before in my life and balanced has become easy as frick at the part of the game I'm at. The only "challenge" I have at this point is knowing what's good/shit bc again I've never played dnd so I'm just learning on the fly
I can't imagine how piss easy story mode is
Act 1 is the only difficult part of the game even on Tactician.
It's kinda hilarious how much of a difficulty spike you get out of the Nere fight, or even doing the three goblin leaders without long resting. Then you get to Act 2 and everything folds like a lawn chair even if you haven't been scouring the map for magical items.
The class balancing is absolutely fricked. Wizard falls off early-on and Warlock falls off in act 3 when Sorceror can use twinned cast with Chain Lightning and clear 90% of the enemies in any given fight. It feels like the entire game is just tooled around running a sorceror, a bard/cleric that's geared around buffs, and then two physical beatsticks like monk/fighter/paladin that just wail on a big target and remove them from combat on the first turn.
Depends on if you're going for 24 str or you're relying on the gloves. If gloves then ASAP. If 24 it's your last 3 levels as you need the ASIs from Fighter/Barb
If you're going chuck build (which I assume you are), yeah. Also toss in a Fighter 2 for surge at some point. Maxed out you should be Champ 4 or 5/Zerk 4 or 5/Thief 3
Thief by a lot. Extra crit range is nice but you really are looking for Surge + fighting style out of fighter. It just so happens barb 6-9 is just worse than fighter 3-4 and BM and EK aren't great for what you're doing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah because extra attack is huge. That being said, I started rogue first because I wanted all the skills on tactician and getting my extra attack a level late didn't hurt me any
thanks, sounds like a fun build
Berserker is already really fun after lvl 3 so it'll be cool watching him be able to tear shit up even more lol
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh as a small heads up, if you're struggling to find a good weapon to chuck, there's an actually OP trident in act 3. Until then either use a returning spear or temporarily go Fighter 3 to EK and you can bind a weapon to chuck, which will return when you toss it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Have like 6 or 7 hand axes the trident, some uncommon spear you get near the start of the game and some other shit split between the frog woman and my barbarian to throw lol
Doesn't tavern brawler only work with shit you pick up off the ground though?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nope 🙂
You've now (partially) discovered why tavern brawler is op.
9 months ago
Anonymous
that spear was terrible for me because you can't use it 75% of the time because they gave it the hit box of a bus
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yup I noticed that too. Kept hitting the roof in the Underdark . Swapped to EK handaxe +1 at some point for that reason.
9 months ago
Anonymous
the trident in act 3 is even worse in that regard
9 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't notice it except for during the Raphael fight. Otherwise worked fine.
9 months ago
Anonymous
fight against Fat Noctis in the Throne Room of Dragon Rock made me respec into a regular old fighter. Couldn't use it even once in there
9 months ago
Anonymous
Worked on my machine, but then again I didn't have any hotfixes so that might've been a differing factor.
yeah because extra attack is huge. That being said, I started rogue first because I wanted all the skills on tactician and getting my extra attack a level late didn't hurt me any
I lived with an English guy in college who acted and spoke exactly like the gay vampire but he wasn't actually gay at all and was always banging hot girls and is married to a girl 10 years younger than himself now and started dating her when she was only 15 and he was 25.
The only party member in the game worth a damn who has an actual story arc and character progression that matches your decisions within the game. Plus him stabbing daddy vamp was kino.
Another hilarious one that only comes online at 11 is crit range stacking champ. You can get up to like a 16 or 17 crit. If you are a half-orc on top of that you can crank out a crit pretty much every turn. Quite fun.
the telling thing for me is that shit on Jahiera was almost as strong as my monk, and I'm pretty sure monk isn't supposed to be able to use flurry and martial arts in armor so if Tavern Brawler ever gets hit, that shit will win hands down
He's secretly the best written character in the game. They trick you into hating him at first by making him a flaming homosexual but by the end of the questline he was my favourite character.
which is why it's hilarious they gave him the ending they did if he doesn't become a lord. I don't know what changes if he does >congrats man you're free >AWUGGGHH THE SUN BURNS >he runs away >everyone laughs at him and nobody cares >that is literally the last you will ever see of him as Wyll quips, "Guess he'll be sticking to the shadows from now on A HEH HEH HEH HEH"
Minthara is kinda middling as a character, she's got a less going on than everyone else. You can safely slot halsin right at the bottom, he's pretty fricking awful especially if you already don't like Karlach.
I want him to sit on my face
Only women are supposed to sit on your face, anon.
Maybe that's a femanon
The comment still stands.
Just admit if he was female instead of male, there's be a hundred waifu threads about her
He's the sassy gay friend I never had I like him.
he fricks chicks too you know
He fricks only chicks of you leave him alone. Cazador forced him to be gay, and he hated every second of it.
He didn't hate being gay. He just hated being controlled and someone taking advantage of him.
nah he definitely hated being a disgusting homosexual thats why he only dates girls if you leave him alone. plain and simple.
I have a best friend like him but I can't deal with more than one of him. Frick Astarion.
>Frick Astarion.
you can, you little sissy boy
Im sick of China denying Taiwan is a legitimate state
it isn't
TPBP
I want them to frick like rabbits
shadowheart is a lesbian, mr chud
Where does that even come from?
her va is a lesbian
ok i am killing her next playthrough
same as the celestial dyke. total dyke death
A lesbian is just a woman who needs a good dicking.
>va is a lesbian forced to voice straight sex scenes
I can dig it, taking their gay icon from them and "raping" them in the process
why am i so attracted to lesbians frick
>her va is a lesbian
First of all, lesbians aren't real because female sexuality is not fixed, second of all, her VA is a young white woman, and they all claim to be lesbian/bisexual/genderfluid to wear the rainbow flag as a shield. Being a normal vanilla white woman opens you up to scrutiny from online leftists like you're potentially every -ic and -ist word in the dictionary.
its funny. every single companion is Bi. aint that funny? its funny
biGODS finally getting their due representation
At last.
>not letting your vampire BFF give you a little suckie
I like that homosexual elf but no
You need to establish boundaries
He's such a shit irrelevant character. Feels so forced on the group, specially because he's two dimensional evil with zero remorse and zero character growth.
Camille in Pathfinder at least hid the fact she's a psychopath.
>Camille in Pathfinder at least hid the fact she's a psychopath.
the girl with half of her battle lines screaming about blood running in the streets and literally without irony the dialog states she licks her lips anytime blood is mentioned.
that one?
Pathfinder fans are mentally challenged. Please understand
You can use his invisible imp to scout out the entire map, which is pretty neat.
She is useful is she not? Open your heart to her.
i don't really like how pathfinder plays or how its written. i felt this way before i ever played a larain game and i felt this way last week when bg3 made me want to give wotr another shot. rogue trader beta is kind of fun tho so idik
yeah WOTR and bg3 both suffer from "modern fantasy writing". Where characters "will, like, talk lik this, we really fragged that troll senpai". They do it on purpose to make the game feel more accessible. You see that shit everywhere in modern fantasy writing.
I thought kingmaker was the much better game writing wise, but if you just cant get into the autism of making builds you are just not going to like any game using the system.
What are you talking about
I don't understand what you don't understand. But i'm not looking for an argument either. Good luck to you.
Your example of how the characters talk doesn't make any sense whatsoever or is poorly explained
Then the writing is made for you in mind, you should be enjoying it. I'm going to guess you got filtered by the gameplay and are just making excuses then.
>two dimensional evil
Not really, his entire backstory is him being made a vampire thrall and forced to abduct victims for Cazador under threat of torture. And he had to do that for something like 170 years.
No one give a shit about some donut steel oc of some homosexual developer
He is a homosexual and deserves the worst of deaths
Left alone he only has sex with female characters, usually lae and shadowheart
Sorry you feel insecure that a virtual man bangs virtual women maybe go outside and touch grass troony
Its boring to me and I dont care for his backstory, honestly. In fact him being a rogue doesn't suit him he'd work best as a bard. But then he wouldn't be the edgy vampire rogue who acts like a psycho but actually wants to be loved. Made for fanfic writers in mind.
You can tell the person that created Astarion is an annoying tumblrtard however the rest of the writers and the VA made the character much better than expected.
Astarion actually reminded me of the more classical vampires akin to Interview with the Vampire and such with all the gay lust and betrayal. But there definitely was some sexually frustrated tumblr person in the dev team because everyone in the game wants to have sex all the time. It actually became comical to me when even the emperor invites you to his dream half-naked and wants to frick.
But back to the point, I actually liked Astarion because he was such a stereotypical vampire. I don't think that a tumblr homosexual would have the guts to create a character as traditional as him. He might fit in as a bard more gameplay-wise but when people think of bards they think of happy people singing and performing. Astarion isn't really like that, he's a cunning butthole that dislikes people.
Not really. He is not as cool as Lestat or Alucard or D, or anything of the sort. Definitely more a loser that is seething about the way he was used and now wants to be in a position of power so he doesnt get used. I feed into his delusions halfway but in multiple times he has shown that he is not a mastermind nor can he divise plans so his true ambition is lacking. He admits he is not a "details person" and just goes with the chaotic flow. He still is very charismatic despite his shortcomings which is why he would work as a sassy bard.
>interview with a vampire copycat
>traditional
nothing traditional about those fruity homosexuals, they're the modern interpretation of vampires
So it might interest you to know that the entire concept of the vampire comes from Stokers fear of homosexuality. In his journal, he writes about a nightmare he had where a man overpowered him and sucked his neck. Vampires are explicitly gay coded and the beginning of the book where Jonathon Harker is menaced by Dracula is Stokers fear of homosexuality. So really, vampires are all gay. I read this in the introduction to this edition of Dracula.
Bram stroker more like
>the entire concept of the vampire comes from Stokers fear of homosexuality
the concept of vampires mainly comes from eastern european folklore you moron, bram popularized one idea of them
…..and bram stoker created the most well known and mythologized version of it. What’s the problem?
you said he came up with the entire concept, which he didn't. vampires aren't all gay and stokers depiction is one of many you moronic goalpost mover
the concept of vampires in pop culture as anyone knows them today is based of stoker that's clearly what anon meant and he isn't wrong you pedantic fricking autistic moron
>dozens of different vampire depictions in pop culture
>erm ackshually it's just this one
go suck on cold gay vampire dick homosexual
there's dozens based off dracula as the starting point, not dozens based off some fricking slave folklore no one is even aware exists
>who are the strigoi in warhammer fantasy
>who are the nosferatu in vampire the masquerade
>who are the ancient vampires in the witcher
>who are the vampires in heroes of might and magic
could've just said you're an ignorant westerner
yes like I said
>3rd world slav folklore no one gives a flying frick about
>my gay oc is the only real one
>nah, gays are nasty
>NUH UH
this is why vampires are no longer popular, nobody wants gay vampires and that's a fact, they are written for women and gays and they have ZERO taste.
>this is why vampires are no longer popular
Citation needed
>this is why vampires are no longer popular
huh?
>archetypes completely different from stoker's dracula used throughout popular franchises, including the the one that revolves solely around vampires
>no one gives a flying frick about
willfully ignorant AND moronic at the same time
>one clan out of a dozen in vampire isn't derived from stoker vampires therefore I win
lol ok
>banu haqim are all middle eastern
>gangrel are all feral
>nosferatu all look like count orlok
>tzimisce are all inspired by the eastern european folklore
>the chinese vampires
>warhammer fantasy vampires all have their clans based off of different vampire the masquerade clans
it's almost like you don't know what the frick you're talking about
What do you think the argument is? You started sperging out at some anon who said Dracula is the basis of cultural relevance for vampires in modern times. That is just factually correct. There would probably be no Vampire franchise if Dracula was never written or gained the popularity it did. If you don't think so you're just moronic.
>Dracula is the basis of cultural relevance for vampires in modern times
is not
>the entire concept of the vampire comes from Stokers fear of homosexuality
the vast majority of vampires as they are depicted in popular media for the past century are 100% derivative of Stroker's Dracula. it's kind of like Tolkien's dwarves and elves. sure, he didn't *invent* the concepts of either, but that doesn't change the fact that dwarves and elves in modern western fantasy settings are clearly based on Tolkien dwarves and elves.
>I read this in the introduction
Don't fricking read introductions. They are written by people to give "context"
Play mgs.mp4
>coded
have a nice day immediately
>Gay homosexual vampire
>"Traditional"
Nope. Traditional vampires are vile creatures of the night feeding on virgins and destroying innocence, driven by an inhuman urge without any true explanation and their entire psychology is essentially post-human. Interview with the vampire is written for women to jerk off.
The whole "Vampires are sexy boys" ruined them.
>The whole "Vampires are sexy boys" ruined them.
No, it's what actually drove them to popularity because vampires weren't that much of a concept until that
One of the first horror movies was literally Nosferatu though.
From the 20th century.
One of the most famous renditions before gaypires was the dude that played Saruman.
Nobody likes gaypires but gays and women.
Why haven't those stood the test of time, Anon? If nobody likes gay vampires, why are they the only the only thing keeping vampires relevant today?
is every character bisexual?
Sounds like typical elf-behavior
>, specially because he's two dimensional evil with zero remorse and zero character growth.
> and zero character growth
You did not play the game.
People who say you didn't play the game reminds me of twitter hags screaming "russian bot" whenever someone disagreed with them, btfod them or hurt their feelings.
I guess when you have no arguments the best you can come up with is "NOOO NOOO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOSE THE VIDYA DISCUSSION BECAUSE UHHH THE ANON DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME oof!"
W-what? how do i know he didn't play it? W-well because he hurt my feelings and i have no comeback 🙁
Come back when you've played the game.
Kys zigger subhuman
Maybe but in this case it is glaringly obvious that. Astarion has the most character growth out of all the companions. Shadowheart changes a lot too but she was brainwashed anyway so it's not as impactful as Astarion's story and growth.
It's really ironic that you are getting so butthurt when someone disagrees with you.
He's my mc and I think he's pretty cool since he never says anything
i could've sworn her name was Helpful
He grows, the choice for his end quest weighs heavy on him.
Not if you help him ascend.
Even the drow has more background than him ( not her ass)
so kill him and get the literally soulless hireling from withers
No I already started on the romance path with him so I'm invested. But I just find him annoying in how he regards Tav and hope he gets better.
Thats what you get for being a gayhag, stop sexualizing gay men
He is the least gay companion though and his romance feels like it was specifically meant to be het
>his romance feels like it was specifically meant to be het
lol
anon is right though, he is aimed directly at women (XX)
he's straight out of an otome game and he's the reason I want to play baldur's gate
All the romances make more sense as hetero. Gale's backstory is specifically about him being hetero, Lae'zel's whole dance of dominance makes more sense if you're a man, Karlach says she wants to ride you which can't really be done as a lesbian
>All the romances make more sense as hetero
Yes, it's called reproduction and evolution.
Maybe if you play AS him, otherwise he is so fricking gay. God made gay men for a reason, and its because women CANNOT handle an effeminate psycho male, only other men can.
The problem is the effeminate psycho thing is a poorly disguised facade which you pick up on pretty immediately if you don't have autism. Why he is like this I don't know yet. But it's putting me off. His affect seems like it would only work on women. I'm playing a male Tav and even though I'm romancing him I feel like the appropriate response is to tell him hes cringe and to get real
>Why he is like this
Of course you don't get it, he is a SUB that thinks he needs to be a DOM. His whole arc with his master is about being in an abusive toxic gay relationship. If you look at calidor as his current BF, that he is trying to escape, the whole thing starts to make sense. Or it doesn't, because youre a women. Maybe you have been in a situation where life is so shit that it starts to infect your personality? Thats him.
This sounds like a woman's understanding of some shitty psychological mind rape thing but with a gay twist!
have a nice day trannoid
>straightoid in the closet is obsessed with trannies
go suck a dick homosexual
>obsessed
people hate you for being a mentally ill homosexual freak and groomer of children but rentfree cope all you want troony
> He is the least gay companion though and his romance feels like it was specifically meant to be het
Anon I…
Honey, thats not a gay man thats a charicature of a gay man that seems like it was written by a woman.
>8 strength wizard
i failed this check and he just scampered off after calling me a c**t, wonder if he'll show up at any point to piss in my cheerios
he dies out in the woods according to the book in the vampire king's house and then shows up in the fight as a zombie
neato
didn't even realize he was part of the hoard. meh nothing of value was lost.
not even, he is one of the gays with the light beam going through him on the far end of the room
he start out strong but then turn quite needly and desperate as the time go on
compare to gale who keep going on and on bragging about his imaginary girlfriend
I wish I cut off his hand at the portal instead
>not using Astarion for minmaxing by making him suck on a drow for +2 to your str
NGMI
>not cutting off her hand
NGMI
Plenty of time for that though. You meet her in Moonrise Towers and again in Baldur's Gate.
You stake Astarion and that's the end of him.
Is the exploding blood thing that good? It sounded frankly terrible as a Fighter.
who cares about explosive blood?
That's a different potion entirely. I'm talking about the one you get when she fangirls over Astarion and wants him to give her the succ out in Moonrise Tower. You get a potion out of it that permanently gives you +2 STR.
I figured since you mentioned her being in Baldur's Gate you were also referring to the explosive blood thing.
why are you cosplaying hitler?
that's obviously john stossel
This is hilarious, how the frick did he just stand there letting it happen?
If you paid attention in the game he hasn't feeded and hence why he is trying to suck your blood - he's weakened which would explain why he is slower on the draw.
the only good hireling is Reddit Gnome.
>so kill him and get the literally soulless hireling from withers
Why would you need a soulless hireling? There are enough companions to get rid of all males. Can even get rid of the frog later.
He’s objectively the strongest character in the game
>Get him to act 3
>Ascend
>Respec into GWM fighter
>cast haste
Congrats you now have 12 attacks per round with +20 damage each
he is already my strongest character with thief fighter multi class
with haste he just attack so many time but I guess that is the case for every fighter
i find his dialogue and voice acting amusing so I’ve kept him around
He’s certainly more interesting than Gale or homosexual Wyll.
Is it even possible to gain his friendship to 100 without romancing? I keep him in the party all the time and it's still around 70 even after his ascension
you can't develop a "deep" friendship with a gay person without having sex with them, as superficial sex is literally the most important thing to the queer community
this game is extremely realistic in that regard
During the ending
>Gale gets a scene about getting the crown back and becoming a god
>Same with Lae'zel becoming a wandering vagabond
>Astarion gets a funny 10 second scene where he runs away from the sun
Oh come on just like that and I never see him again?
>didnt assend him
bro, did you really set 7000 vampires loose?
Not him but I persuaded him not to ascend for RP sake and told him to kill the spawn, but in doing so I broke my oath as a paladin
Absolute insanity, but I had to let them go.
Hmm I didn't see that gale scene at all he just said he would search for the crown in the ocean
Letting the vampires loose broke my oath as an ancients paladin. But it does make sense, you're being extremely irresponsible if you just send them off into the wilds, they're starving and dangerous. I let them stay in the cages so that they can be screened and the ones that can resist their urges can go free and the rest get staked.
What are your options in that? I only played evil so far so it was a forgone conclusion that he would sacrifice all their lives and ascend. What are the “good” options?
Afaik you have three options, you either release, destroy, or keep them imprisoned. The last option is obviously the sensible one, though a CG/CN character might be more inclined to release them.
Then the gur show up and b***h at you regardless of what you did.
Gur accepted me releasing them all. They all went to the Underdark so it's not really the worst thing in the world
Yeah they accept it but they b***h at you still.
>Oh you released them good job butthole now there are 7000 vampire spawn running around and hurting innocents
>Oh you left them in their cells why couldn't you even finish the job you pathetic wimp
They're impossible to please.
And yes the Underdark is probably the least bad place for everyone involved, though it's pretty likely that the drow or duergar are just going to finish them off.
You missed out on
Lae'zel becomes a fricking dragonrider and ascends which is twice as good if you play as gith and romance her because you get your own dragon and get to ride off with her
So you let your frog waifu become food for Vlaakith. Good job.
Is it possible to make laezel realize that vlaakith is a space israelite and abandon her?
Yes. I played nice in the Creche but then convinced her that Vlaakith was a piece of shit before the fighting all started. In the ending, she rides a dragon with Orpheus to kill her
Absolutely. I didn't even need to roll for it iirc, just having put L'z in the purge chair was enough to convince her that something was off. Then you deny the inquisitor when he asks for the artifact, then you enter the prism and have a chat with Emps. Later on Vlaakith shows up at the camp again and makes some more demands and L'z should tell her to frick off then even without any input from you
Well she spared voss of her own volition, so that's a good sign
yes make sure she
>reads you the two storybooks about orpheus
>make sure you show her the chair is going to kill her
Yes, she even goes through all the stages of coping and seething where she convinces herself the de-worming chair has been tampered with and the scientist operating it is a traitor
I romanced him and we're going to rule over the 7,000 vampire spawn in the underdark
You mean, you’re going to be his vampire spawn slave and he’s going to rule and degrade you like a gay sex slave. He’s going to be just like cazador eventually.
The vampires of this game are straight out of the description of D&D lore in 5e, but even more so the description in 2e. Astarion changes as soon as he’s ascended and gets even more evil.
Jokes on him though, in my dark urge play my character became his spawn and then mind controlled everyone with the power of the brain. So he missed his chance in making my character a thrall and became one himself. Oh and so did Shadowheart and minthara, but it’s hard to get excited about those two since they didn’t have direct influence over my character
He didn't ascend. We're just going to lead all those moronic 7,000 vampire spawn that have no idea what they're doing.
DARLING
>not killing him immidiatelly
Your fault
>Play vengeance paladin
>Some uppity paleskin rogue tries to kill and rob me
>Kill him in a single strike
not my problem
>missing out on +2 permanent strength
ngmi
>implying you need this shit when gloves of hill giant exist
>using that instead of all of the super damaging gloves since gloves are most competitive spot in your whole gear
honestly no wonder you morons struggle on babby mode Tactician lmao
>not using both
You can just kill him or not take him with you dood.
Just stop talking to him or taking him with you then
He’s much less annoying than “woe is me also please frick me” Gale
I’m sick of seeing wyll in my camp
What a beyond useless boring cuck
Wyll and Astarion swapped places in my head
I liked black weeb dude at first and found the sassy vampire annoying, but by the end I loved Astarion and fricked Wyll’s demon while he watched
Wyll can barely be considered a character. Karlach is annoying and i think worse but wyll is just basic. he really shouldn't be. hes a noble larping as a hero by using a demon for power. there's an interesting story somewhere in that, but those last min rewrites must have fricked something up or larain just didn't care about him either
He actually had some character in the early access. He was a complete butthole though, but even that is better than the bland and simple Black person we got now.
I tried to ignore Wyll and not take him in my party but he snuck into my camp by force so I killed him in the camp. Now his body is in my camp forever and his blood is all over my bedroll. It’s kind annoying, I tried to hide his body in a crate but it just resets every time I return to camp.
Women seem to like him a lot.
He's immortal. Better get used to it.
he constantly one shots enemies at the part of the game I’m at rn and his stupid dialogue makes me laugh
I found him weak, but also by far the funnest play the few times I needed him for a lock pick heavy mission.
I'm enjoying pillars of eternity in spite of all the masonic references.
I'm gonna fricking kill myself. I can't cope knowing that everyone now considers BG3 the greatest game of all time. There's just no point living in this clown world that hates chuds. Goodbye cruel world, I'm roping.
>Highest Rated Game of All Time on Opencritic
>Highest Rated PC Game of All Time on Metacritic
>Overwhelmingly Positive Steam Reviews
>Top 10 Most Popular Steam Games of All Time
>Top 5 Most Popular Singleplayer Steam Games of All Time
>875K Concurrent Players
what do you think is the game of all time?
It'll pass, eventually all the normies will drop the game in act 1 since they're bored and anyone who gets to act 3 will see how bad it gets.
They’re called normalgays you double Black folk
Alright normalBlack person
frick off. normies is faster to type
>normies is faster to type
fricking tourist scum
Normies gonna normie
At least with its success we can expect another divinity game with more build kinos, no matter how insufferable the rest of the game will be
>build kinos
Your no better than the morons lapping this shit up.
Well anon it's a pretty decent game. Sorry for your loss
>normal people like stupid shit
>in other news water is wet
Why do you care so much what other people think? This isn't a new phenomenon.
I agree, it's no surprise since this is the first CRPG that accessible enough for the general populace, which would never play better games.
>There's just no point living in this clown world that hates chuds.
Actually just have a nice day.
So kill him.
I'm sick of baldur's gay 3 spam posts.
>he didn't stake the homosexual vampire elf the first chance he got
OP is a homosexual who got raped by Gayle
Immediately killed him when he got close to me
I spent 10s of hours forgetting he was even in my party you don't need a rogue in this game I unlocked everything with the knock spell.
>don't like the characters? Just hire hirelings lol
>all hirelings are premade and can't be altered
amazing
yeah this shit is beyond moronic. Larian dropped the ball on a lot of basic things
Wait then what's the point if they're just blank slate characters?
The point is to force you to play with the ugly troony OC donuts of the backers or devs.
mods
Extra slot, so if you want someone with a particular utility to have on demand like a Bard you don't have to respec someone and then back.
>have to get three friends to join your game and make their own characters to get a full custom party
>problem is that they can't be kicked from the party at all if you don't want them anymore or want to make a new one
It's kind of funny you can frick over a friend's save by joining their game and making a character since the default join option is "Friends only". The game is extremely lacking in forethought QoL-wise.
You can edit the save file to fix it.
>Not killing him on sight the first time you see him
>Not giving him the stake when he tries to suck your blood
I shoved a broken branch through him the first time he came slinking around my bedroll.
>flamboyantly gay blood addict vampire
>flamboyantly gay drug addict wizard
>some black guy who is a member of the League of Devil Hunters Guild from DivOS
aight lets go devil hunting. You know Jahan, bro?
Man I was so ready to hate Wyll; I expected him to be a smug dickhead, a swashbuckling smug butthole.
But the guy was a legit G. The guy actually cares about being a Devil Hunter and though he has a bit of a dashing side, the fact he goes "Frick it I'd rather be a devil looking motherfricker than kill someone innocent" is respectable.
He's also the only guy not expecting me to carry all his problems.
>Man I was so ready to hate Wyll; I expected him to be a smug dickhead, a swashbuckling smug butthole.
that would've been way better than the lukewarm cup of lemon water we got
He made me gay. Thanks Larian.
Eh, he's miles better than Gayle and Wyll.
You can:
>never recruit him in your party
>kick him out of your party
>kill him
If you are keeping him in your party it is because of your own choices.
>prostituting him for the potion
disgusting, all of you
Hey man, it was a mutually beneficial agreement. He's a vampire, he sucks blood to live. She wanted the suck, and was willing to offer a potion for it. Sure he prattles on about how shit her blood tastes but before he got mindflayerd he had been living off of rats and even a boar. Compared to that I don't see how drow blood is specially bad. Hell, even more so with my campaign considering that I had him bite the hag to heal himself.
You have to play as a drow to pass the lore check, but her family in menzoberanzan is rumored to frick mind flayers. And I guess have children with them, which is why their blood is polluted and smells/tastes like shit.
That makes no sense. Astarion has a tadpole in his head. If anything it should make her blood more palatable to him. It's not like a regular vampire is repulsed by the taste of human blood.
Again - it has nothing to do with the blood. He just avhors being used and forced to do sometging he doesn't want, autist-kun
Except after biting her he straight up says her blood tastes all sorts of wrong and vile.
Did you even play the game?
>hates doing something
>you make him do it
>says he hated doing it just so you get it
I'm not talking about why he hates doing it you comprehension challenged idiot. An anon made a comment about lore on why her drow blood tastes bad, stating it's likely due to fricking mindflayers. I said that doesn't add up because the party being on the road to becoming mindflayers themselves should make mindflayer blood palatable as it's not like human vampires find human blood to be disgusting to eat.
>people literally never lie or put on an act to cope and everything they say is true
Definitly autism. Seek help
You guys are social morons. Astarion hates it not because of the blood (which may or may not taste disgusting). It's because he hates when people use him as an object in a transaction. Fricking autists i fricking swear
Yet he treats you as an object in his romance arc, curious
>he got the bad end
Oh no no no no
I didn't need to fix him
Only in his evil ending
Hey man, I said he didn't have to, but a potion could be good. He didn't have any issues sucking on my neck.
I felt really bad about it afterwards
Yeah I also picked the choice that was along the lines of "hey your call dude" and he capitulated. I've seen other people pick that option and it ending up with him going "oh seriously? no then" so I must've missed the trigger for that.
probably depends on how much he likes you
NTA but I think Astarion's shit is just bugged.. He's almost always disapproved of my actions and I gave him the choice to do it and he still did it, and resented doing it to where I no longer have an affection bar for him.
He sometimes approves of my actions and sometimes doesn't. It really depends on what you pick.
I'm fully aware of how the affection system does its thing. I'm saying that of all my companions Astarion has disapproved my actions the most, which means of all of my companions he likes me the least. Even with that low approval rating he still drank the blood for me, which means him doing it for you is probably just buggy shit.
If he likes you he won't do it, if you leave it up to him.
>if he likes you he'll only want to suck yiur blood
Based loyal vampire spawn looking for true love. Very kawaii
Im in general confused by the affection system. Seems like some companions gain it while in camp, while others dont. Just all around confusing or bugged
He's power hungry and selfish. He should be evil but it's quite inconsistent
>help one child, he approves
>help another child, he disapproves
Nevertheless any selfish action should bring approval with him. Larian didn't have guts to make him an actual evil character because then women would not like him
I think that this is one of the biggest problems in the game regarding the companions. They don't follow their motives and you can always just easily neutralize them if they start causing trouble. Everyone also becomes a lot more soft-hearted in the long run for some reason, even Lae'zel.
There should've been way more infighting at the camp between the followers if you ask me, everyone there is pretty fricking dangerous and/or mistrusting except for Halsin.
>everyone there is pretty fricking dangerous and/or mistrusting except for Halsin
Wrong.
Scratch and the Owlbear also trust you completely.
True. It would've made for an interesting cutscene if Astarion tried to feed on them.
That's a shame. It's like "good Wyll" was automatically set as the starting point for him, deleting his whole character grow arc completely. It's pretty obvious that the player had choices to guide him to become even more devilish or more righteous, hence the corrupted half-human half-devil look in the first place. It's also very obvious that he was supposed to clash with Karlach a lot more.
>he was supposed to clash with Karlach a lot more.
Yeah that's obvious. At the moment it's just one quarrel they have right when they meet each other and then they become normal buttbuddies like everyone else in your party. It's ridiculous.
Yeah, the only one he'll be sucking on is me. The ugly Black person drow can go find her own vampire bf
I know theirs no women, are their that many gay people on v. So many comments on fricking the men my 40yrold ass is confused.
Way better character than Shadowc**t, KarlACK, the magical rapist, or the nygger.
>play the game second time
>get to astarion personal quest
>"i'll do it differently this time"
>all dialogue options with cazador lead to boss fight
>after the fight denying the ritual makes astarion leave the party and quest ends
>ok maybe if I let the ritual start but interrupt it
>astarion becomes hostile and quest ends
this game is legit dogshit
you are dogshit at the game.
I KILLED HIM AT FIRST SIGHT, LEFT THE CORPSE TO ROT.
>tfw had to intimidate him to take the astral tadpole
>his reaction
What is his reaction?
If you even ask him about it he gets really upset and ends with “don’t ask me again.” I have not forced him in both plays so I’d like to hear it. I imagine it tanks his opinion of you though. It should unironically be you holding down your party members and forcing the tadpole in them, literally mind raping them
Planning to play him on my 2nd evil playthrough, since custom tav gets frick all
I like the gay vampire
It's the wizard that's annoying as frick to keep around
Is that the dude you kill on the beach after he tries to knife you?
>do first long rest
>Gayle stands at fire "to hell with you"
>answer "wow same to you too ya bastard!"
>Gayle disapproves -1
god this game is so fricking moronic, nobody can take a joke, but you are expected to forgive people holding knives at your throat in an instant
Gale's dialogue is bugged btw
I don't think any of the devs playtested him
That's pretty much how liberals are though?
>i disagre with this person, they must be fired!
>doxx them!
>make them unemployable
>the slightest of pushback
>why so hate-filled :~~*
kill him
>i can't
shit rpg
but you can
but at what cost
I fed him to the kuo-toas in exchange for some shitty bleed perma-buff and it was absolutely worth it.
At the start of my solo run I sneak attacked his ass before even talking to him once.
You absolutely can kill him. Did the same with Shart while she's unconscious on the beach.
Best male companion in the game
I just finished his quest, he's a cool dude
I like him, he has good banter
why the hell would you let a dude into your party that LITERALLY JUST HELD A KNIFE AT YOUR THROAT
Everyone is a little keyed up and stressed out because of the tadpole. Laezel tries to kill you in camp later too.
that's not a big deal and I don't get why you people make one out of it. half the people you come across in this game ste like that
Is this your first RPG? Because half the party members wanting to kill you or holding a weapon towards you is pretty standard tbh
He said he was sorry, so it's ok
>held a knife to your neck
That's my fetish, anon
because he can become a god.
He has become the big gay
so can Gale, nothing special
Gale is really lame tho, a guy in a blue dress.
Gale is for getting railed
Gale wears a dress and is kind of a poof. Nobody likes gale
I disliked him at first but he started growing on me and having two wizards is pretty good.
>Nobody likes Gale
Speak for yourself.
I am a paladin so I killed him the second I found out he was a vampire and he tried to bite me
ok, pulling the knife on me first time we meet I kind maybe overlook, I mean almost everyone you meet on the road is hostile anyways, doesn't seem that unreasonable
but then sneaking on me at night? No way gay
lmao pussy
yeah i mean what sneaky little homosexual jumps on you in the night. deserved
God he looks so pathetic and sad... I would never do this to him. But he DOES kind of deserve it. But this bawd will never die in my playthroughs.
>bawd
He's the most loyal of all companions and doesn't fantasize about getting beared and having a gang bang, unlike some. He's the actual loyal trad wife you people wanted
Astarion's good endings are all super good
>settle down
>go on adventures as heroes
>try to find a way to make him a sunwalker
And he even needs a bit of reassurance because he thinks you're too good for him.
>more faithful, traditional and loving than the female cast
I honestly found his whole self-actualization touching after I told him
>homie don't do what you don't want to do you're a free man
in regards to the slimy hot-topic drow wanting him to give her the succ. Dude started to get self-respect for himself and realize he could say no. Honestly he's the best written rape victim I've seen in fiction.
Trad wife? hes an abomination and i dont mean because hes a vampire.
He wanted to give you sucky sucky zero doraru, you ungrateful c**t
What a waste of a perfectly good bulge
I had an existential crisis when I've met him due to my mc being pic rel rogue. Didn't know if I should restart with him as the mc or do a different character
In the end I've robbed him naked and killed him so it worked out fine
Do a different character because he's great to have in the party
I made my character to look like me but dragon born. Looked Identical to the fruity Dragonborn guy in the sewers with the burnt corpse. Tripped me the frick out hard.
>look like me but scalie furbait
Subhuman furry spotted. YWNBAL
yeah your character looks like a little homosexualy twink need to restart now
wait, aren't dnd vampires vunerable to sunlight?
yeah but not if you have special worms in your brain
>some ugly drow niggress asks my boy Astarion for some sucky sucky in exchange for some moron strength potion or whatever
>Brostarion doesn't want to
>tell that b***h to get bent
I killed the b***h in Act 3
I'm sick of these threads
>tries to rape me
>push him off and stake his heart
Why wouldn't you do this? Who the frick does he think he is?
I'm not a moron so I didn't stake him
No, you just like getting raped while you sleep, homosexual.
pussy
>quest to save the gipsy kids from Astarion's master
>forget about it and do other shit
don't tell me it's timed
don't worry, that isn't timed
I love him
kino character
he's the only gay i like in that game
he feels like a token sassy gay character from a 1990s movie
He is a loser, but I'm glad there are so many ways to kill him in act 1
>gay vampire that says darling and is "sexy"
Anyone find this writing incredibly boring?
I would find it boring if I couldn't tell it was all a bullshit affect and that he's hiding something behind it
Go to therapy.
Cured my homophobia. He's cool. Its5a gay Vergil. More poweraaaAAAAAAa
Noice
>a loyal trad vampire husband that you can help grow and change for the better
Femcels win again
I used to hate him for being a gay but he's a total bro and essential companion for an evil character
Sfm porn when?
not soon enough
jab a stick in his heart then, why wait
I want to rape him and then cuddle
Shut the frick up, cazador
rude, I just want some love
It's stupid you don't get an ending where he turns you into a vampire considering he mentions that to become a free vampire you must get bit then suck the blood from the one who turned you
No, it's not stupid at all. You're just a brainlet who has missed the point of his plotline though i agree it would have been cool to be two piece of shit vampires terrorizing baldur's gate together
huh? I killed him on sight
i'm sick of gale and i'm not even in act 3
>starts alright
>enjoy his dialogues
>he tries to romance me
>decline
>romance lae'zel
>he tries to romance me AGAIN
>decline
>get lae'zel confession
>he asks me if we're no longer together?????
WHat the frick did he mean by did? I skipped both gay baits and the game still triggered some flags. I'm not even capped on his relation, it's at like 50% because i keep being evil.
woke garbage game
I cant trust people complaining about Gale anymore. I flat out told him I was down to frick and he brushed it off all embarrassed. So how can he be a pushy rapist as well? Shit don't add up.
He likes chasing, doesn't like being the one chased
I wasn't chasing he keeps alluding to the fact that he's horny for you and I was like "yes" but he's still all coy
>do you want to see a magic trick anon?
um sur
>tries to rape you
um no thanks gale
>sad to see our romance die so soon anon
wtf??
I said ok to his magic trick. was just him making some blue shit and giving me a bit of a buzz or something then next thing i know it starts getting gayer and gayer and he gets closer and closer and I had to be all WHOOA MATE SETTLE DOWN stop with the gay shit.
Then he starts talking about our romance. Was the magic trick trying to trick a straight man into fricking him?
>wait a second this isn't magic
>this is anal sex!
>gales magic trick in action
Did you make your feelings clear during the weave scene? Having your character imagine kissing Gale? If so, you’re locked in you’ll just have to wait until act 2 where it further develops and finally culminates.
lmao I killed him the first time he tried to suck my blood, shit was gay.
easily the best VA and funniest lines in game
Same va as kamski and heisenberg
hes way too camp. should have got someone else
Kill him if you have a decent rogue multiplayer character homosexual has nothing reddeming besides funny youtube reactions adam driver tier
>he missed perma 2 strength
LOL
moron
Needing more moronic strength when i can activate a trainer and throw enemies like toys except dragon cause strentgh is capped at 30
>moron is also a cheater
>in literally one of the easiest CRPGs ever
HAHAHAHA
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
FRICKNG Ganker, DUMPSTER AT GAMES LMAO
>b-but what about the 2 strength
Doesn't change that much. It's just a feat which doesn't do much compared to doing a tadpol upgrade free run.
>dude +1 to hit doesn't matter lmao
yeah sure, on story mode
>thought he was gay and cringe at first
>favorite companion now love his VA
nah this mf is funny af when hiding
I'm sick of your rulebreaking. Generals go in
>>>/vg/
you will never be a janny you fat greasy pretending frick
A crooked touch
He is the perfect foil to my rough dwarf barbarian. I always have him around just for his background commentary.
HOW COME HE DON'T WANT ME? Why doesn't he want me, man?
We return to your adventure after vanquishing the giant ass spider b***h hiding under a burnt down as frick goblin infested city. Your super fricking gay elf vampire companion you need to unlock chests and shit is fully erect and ready to cross this bullshit bridge to continue dealing with the goblins
i love laezel
>Tav: I'm sorry Lae'Zel I have horrible violent tendencies and sometimes lose control and delve into a bloody massacre
>Lae'Zel: Hot
My frog wife.
I really like durge, many companions develop sone different dimensions they don't show as tav.
love is gay
that means you're gay
she's fun when you're playing as dark urge
Is it worth starting over from here?
Made a custom character instead of using one of the premade ones and I'm probably missing out on some story
ehhh generally no
the durge plotline isn't particularly interesting and you're already a solid chunk into act 1. The main thing that's fun about it is the companions treating you differently
>Moonrise Towers
>literally EVERY ZEALOT Thunderous Smites twice per turn or drops a 36 Lay on Hands heal
>they have limited charges for LoH but not for Smites
for literally what purpose
there are paths that allow you to flank and stealth kills
>he let them even get a singular turn
This post was typed by 4-martial playing hands.
Martials are way better than hastebots. I bet you took more than 1 turn to kill the Netherbrain too
lmao
lol
>martialposting
>in 5e of all things
Even without using objectively broken shit like Danse Macabre or magic missile added damage stacking casters in this game can crank out 150 a turn when you stack them all the way up. 5e has a martial problem anon we don't have to pretend here.
you're a fricking moron because you can put those SHITTY zombies on any class; my fricking monk had them.
And you know what? They do nothing but make turns take longer.
Have fun gumming through encounters slow as frick while I'm grinding the boss into paste in 1 round with two martials with haste.
This isn't 5e, moron. This is Baldur's Gate 3, a Larian Homebrew. Try beating the game first you moronic cuck.
>Y-y-you didn't beat the game look I did!!!!!
>I know you said you weren't even counting the ghouls but look I can do it too!!!!
>Look look look I can do as much damage as you can to a single target, ignore the fact that you're killing 5+ others at the same time IGNORE IT
Good god the cope here is real. Look I get it you like martials but you don't need to suck their wiener this hard. I admit they are pretty great at single target but who're we fooling here, man? Casters are the shit, end of story.
>no proof because he didn't beat the game
>seething wall of cope
concession etc etc accept etc etc
post you killing the netherbrain, Orin, or Raphael in one turn with casters. I can reload my last save and post one right now but you 100% won't, guaranteed.
because he can't and even water->lightning shit is like 200 damage max and doesn't come close to monk
Netherbrain can die in 1 turn, so can raphael
But orin has 10 unstoppable so i doubt that.
I took Raphael in 2 turns and idk netherbrain, it died quickly because i had scrolls saved up, with raphael i smited him to death in 2 attacks.
>with raphael i smited him
Yes, sure. We're talking about castercucks though, not paladins smiting for 250 damage.
And Orin can absolutely die in one round.
>And Orin can absolutely die in one round.
how?
She only has 10 stacks. Knock off the 10 stacks, which a monk by himself can do, or a swords bard. You get an achievement for ignoring the casters and just blowing her up.
If you don't kill her, she will get more stacks though.
multi hit attacks like monk fists, magic missiles etc
Multi-damage type hits break the shield quicker. I had Astarion Dual-Wielding crossbows and broke her entire shield with 3 shots and then had my MC and Lae'zel absolutely prolapse her. She didn't even get a turn. I honestly had more trouble with the cultists afterwards.
You need 10 hits to break 10 unstoppable
Like I said, different damage types break 1 point off. Just having the ring that adds acid damage would give an extra 3 separate hits to break that. I also added fire damage to the crossbows so that's another 3. My Monk had 4 different damage types every time he punched so it was even easier with him to break those shields.
So let's a play a game, moron-kun. If I flurry of blows and hit twice for ONE BA, and I hit with 2 poison, 4 force, 8 radiant, and 24 physical, twice, how many hits to the shield do I do?
casters can't count without going to sleep first
I've not got the game installed but I can do some simple math for you here, moron-kun.
4 Casters, 4 Freecast, drop the bonus action zone down on your casters and have each be splashed by a haste pot or simply pre-cast haste. This setup leads to
4 disintegrates with forced fails via div is 200 damage minimum. If the target is still alive you still have 4 chain lightnings + another 4 5th level magic missiles. Or even just another 4 disintegrates. This easily cracks 500 damage unless you literally get minimum rolls and fails on everything possible then, yes you can fall under the 450 needed for the brain one turn. But if you instead decide to go full abuse you can:
Drac sorc + Lightning charge = each magic missile dealing 1d4+7 damage. Or 8 min per missile, 24 for a first level slot and 64 for a 6th. So with 8 casts of it at 6th, you're dealing 512 unmissable damage(except for the shield spell of course). This is on top of having yet still another full 4 casts worth of 5th level spells to go if you are in a bubble.
>let me just theory...
*takes long rest*
>...craft this shit instead of ....
*load screen*
>...posting an easy to screenshot...
*takes another long rest*
>...achievement
lmao
I went over this in a post you were too moronic to read but heres some proof for you, 1st-grade reading comprehension anon. 33h playtime with a save right before the boat.
so as stated, you're a storymode shitter still in act 1 who is too moronic to figure out how to use the strongest classes in the game that is obvius to anyone with 3 brain cells
>The class balancing is absolutely fricked. Wizard falls off early-on and Warlock falls off in act 3 when Sorceror can use twinned cast with Chain Lightning and clear 90% of the enemies in any given fight. It feels like the entire game is just tooled around running a sorceror, a bard/cleric that's geared around buffs, and then two physical beatsticks like monk/fighter/paladin that just wail on a big target and remove them from combat on the first turn.
yup
mean to quote
You sound like a Dark Souls kiddie screeching because someone said his "impossible" game was too easy.
Please start jakposting so my filter catches you, thanks.
I'm the one that said the game was easy as shit in the first place you illiterate fricking moron
hes just baiting hard at any post giving him advice
what advice? I beat the game. YOU need advice to beat it and the advice is: martials are OP as shit with haste.
You're just seething and coping over it for whatever reason.
not any of those anons but what classes have haste?
Not to play the devil's advocate here but haste potions exist, anon.
Last D&D game I played was NWN2 I think
I hardly remember shit about the rules and subclasses apart from it's really easy to frick up and make shitty builds if you don't read shit first
So what you're saying is they are better off using haste than nuking? Interesting.
Also, your haste pots, anon? The easiest and cheapest pots to make? Those pots?
Imagine you spent all game terrible as frick, shooting magic missile 2 times and then having to go to sleep. It's Tactician, so CC barely works and there is not a lot of DC increasing gear in the game.
Finally, you get to end game and you smile knowing your time has FINALLY arrived at level 11
but then you see Fighter got his third attack and just explodes the whole battlefield in one turn
That is why they seethe
1 turned Orin with twincast disintegrate and an action left over to twincast chain lightning all of her minions to death too
>I cast a spell into an immune person and then chain lighting cast into a bunch of dudes under Sanctuary
imagine lying online and getting found out instantly because you're a moron who has zero clue what he's talking about
LMAO
LOL
lmao i literally did it so you're just going to have to cope
i think you're just mad other people found more efficient strategies than you, even when those strategies are extremely obvious
>lmao i literally did this thing that is not possible trust me bro my dad works for Larian I know how to make lighting damage go through sanctuary I programmed the game to do it believe me
he is probably that guy earlier in the thread who admitted to using a trainer, that's why it worked
L
O
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>casters are so OP bro I just turn on my trainer and look how OP I am
it's obviously not impossible because i did it. i'll concede it could have been bugged because act 3 is a mess, but that's what happened
duel started
i won initiative
she died on the second disintegrate
>it's obviously not impossible because i did it. i'll concede it could have been bugged because act 3 is a mess, but that's what happened
>duel started
>i won initiative
>she died on the second disintegrate
doubling down wasn't the right move here. Leaving the thread in shame was
Actually embarrassing.
1 turn Orin on a caster is easy. Not sure about Raphael.
You literally can't do it. This is why the webm has not been posted. She can't be knocked off the ledge anymore btw if that's what homosexual ass shit you're thinking.
Nah you can do it. Pre-buff Haste and magic missile the Unstoppable away, then just twincast whatever you want, probably lightning damage maximized from Cleric multiclass.
You couldn't do it on just any caster, but then pure class wizard blows
Eh actually that would work but you need sorc, yeah.
That was how I did it, but I can't remember if it was lightning or not. I wasn't even trying to do it, the b***h just up and died. Disintegrate would probably work, except it's no damage on save IIRC so quite risky. If you wanted to get extra cheeky you could pre-buff with that worm power that lets you use bonus actions as actions, hit the b***h a third time.
I think if I put effort into 1 turning Raphael I could 100% do it, martial players need to chill out lol
Disintegrate would work if you saved scummed it but you still have to remove the shield first. The shield that the other guy didn't know existed
>Disintegrate would work if you saved scummed
Nah, just use your Divination die from your 1 level wizard dip 😉
Lots of abilities bypass it though that's almost certainly a bug. Does she even have Unstoppable in the duel vs Dark Urge form of the fight?
NTA but I did run into 2 bugs with unstoppable pre-hotfixes. One where it never fell off and one where they never started with it on in the first place. Could be that but who knows.
No, she doesn't have Unstoppable if you duel her as Dark Urge, because that buff comes from her minions, who don't participate in that case. Anon called it a duel. The moronic cuck was martials, as always.
>cast silence
>no more thunder damage
Get fricked moron
my AC is too high and they can't even hit me
I'm just worried that this is going to be a sign of things to come with NPCs having infinite spellslots
astarion is the only one who makes me laugh irl
He's definitely the most fun to have around with second going to Lae'zel. I get a kick out of him disapproving whenever you do anything that isn't comically evil
He sometimes acts like a decent person and it's pretty cute.
AYO miss me with that gay shii the frick is wrong witchu
DEEEEE MUNNNS
>Heals over 60 health in the party in one turn once per short rest in your path.
How can any party afford to not have a life cleric? This shit is great.
probably because healing is shit and Light mogs Life in every conceivable way
Fricking this.
Who needs healing when you have imp. warding flare once a turn + better DPS options.
>needing to heal
Wtf
Yeah all my party members including me are first-time D&D players so I'm pretty sure having a life cleric yo constantly bail us out was for the better
The game gives you enough money to just burn potions through every fight even if it's your first playthrough. It's kinda insane how thoroughly you can turn fights upside down with items.
Though Act 3 is where the difficulty tumbles off of a cliff even if you're not raiding every shop for legendary items.
>The game gives you enough money
No it does not. I am broke.
turn on non lethal passive
knock out the devil horns guy who owns the smithy and loot him
see what happens next
thank me later
thats gay gameplay but you do you
unlock every chest
empty your enemies and sell
I'm doing that. Equipping 7 characters(i am playing a Tav) costs a ton especially since i have 2 wizards, me and Gale.
I'm not doing that since i'm playing a good character.
i have more money than I know what to do with and I haven't even been pickpocketing or looting all that much
by act 1 you should be at 5k by act 2 10k and by end of act 3 30k+ even after buying whatever you wanted, the game didnt finish crafting so all crafting mats are vendor trash.
Loot what you can, you can loot EVERYTHING and send it to camp, then just camp > trader back and forth until its all sold, and if vendor is broke.
wait with vendoring until all 4 level up, then empty vendor gold, level 1 character, you can now empty vendor again and repeat 4 times without resting.
Not on tactician, stop playing explorer. In act 3 I actually went out of my way to steal to make money to buy the 15k gold heavy armor from the tiefling smith.
I have finished the game twice now with 90+ hour playthroughs on tactician, re-read what i posted and stop coping like a moron.
You're a homosexual that plays CHA characters and only equips his main 4. Go kys shitlord.
>y...you're..b..bad because I ...p..play l..like a.a.a.moron..
lmao
kys homosexual, if you can't admit that you've been playing on easy mode this whole time there is no helping you
lmao
now post yours you little lying homosexual
oh wait, you won't because you're on story mode and you haven't finished the game
Currently on tactician at the end of act 1 and I'm up to 8k gold.
Why aren't you looting bodies? Why aren't you searching containers? Merchant inventories reset on long rest, you should be able to sell everything you find, though even that's a bit excessive for how much money you wind up needing.
You should never run out of cash if you're actually playing the game and not just rushing between plot fights. Maybe if you're in act 3 and loading up on smokepowder arrows?
>once per short rest
It gets better.
Which origin character has the best story? I heard nobody was playing as the frog woman but that's probably because you know why
>Gale was a master-level mage on par with Elminster
>Karlach was the personal slaughter-monkey of an archdevil who lead campaigns in the blood war
>Wyll was an immensely powerful warlock who could summon hell beasts and take on groups by himself
>Astarion was the personal pet project of an incredibly powerful vampire
>Shadowheart and Lae'zel were disposable low-level mooks in their organizations, and between the two of them only Shadowheart had any kind of special position regarding the prism
So Lae'zel is basically the designated "CRPG main character" if you didn't pick Tav, fricking wild.
She's the only one of the group that appears in the opening CGI cinematic.
Thinking about Durge bard, with 3 other bards and become a travelling serial killer mariachi band earning our gold fair and square then hacking and slashing our audience.
>be not even vey far into act 1
>don't even feel like launching the game
well shit
zoom zoom
I'm 38 m8
I just don't feel like clearing out the whole goblin camp to kill the last leader, seems like a tedious job
why not? slaughtering gobbos is always fun
Knock him into the pit next to him or use one of those void grenades to pull him in and then sneak out through the underdark temple if you cant fast travel away. If you're aggroing everyone else in that room just have them pick each other off with crown of madness from the rafters first. If you do it that way you could easily kill the guy legit and loot him and then sneak out without fighting the entire place
it's not just the boss, after I killed the drow during the attack on the grove the whole camp including the outside bits is hostile, that's a lot of trash mobs to smack before I even reach him
I will probably do it but it still feels a bit like a chore and also the fact I don't really care about the plot or characters yet doesn't really help
If you don't care about his loot can't you just run to him with invisibility and cast him into the pit with a single party member then either get away or die and res that party member at camp
If you need to get him out of the throne close to the edge first just use minor illusion
huh now that sounds like a fun idea, thanks
sounds like depression no game is ever gonna help you with that
martials run the show in this game but your priest should have great nukes and your haste guy should be a lock with sorc levels for haste, ST damage, and nukes.
There's no reason why you can't have it all.
>martials run the show
I'm playing a cleric/wizard. Martials are fine but i am the one deciding the tides of battle.
No, you're the one pretending to while martials do 75% of the team damage or you're too stupid to figure out how to use a basic b***h fighter.
>martials do 75% of the team damage
>gust of wind
>the enemies are instagibbed after falling to their deaths
>NOOO WE ARE THE ONES DOING THE DAMAGE
Martials are all morons i see.
>gets no loot
>doesn't work on any boss that matters since they just teleport back up, like the dragon, Emperor, Mr. ToB, etc
great job moron
yeah chasm deaths are a moron trap because they're so easy to pull off. I don't brother other than yeeting the spider matriarch into the underdark unless it's an absolute trash mob I know won't drop shit
>flurry of blows push x 4
>don't have to go to sleep like a homosexual afterwards
GG NO RE
then you are playing martials wrong
My barbarian is fricking shit up, what are you talking about?
Fricking lvl 4 with tavern brawler
Smashing shit and throwing shit everywhere
I like him, but he hates everything I do since playing good character. He's a bro, unlike Gale who wants to cry all the time and jump on your dick.
You can do good things without announcing you will be doing good things so he can dislike it.
For example
>meet harpers when their boy gets turned into a shadow man
>pick Run option
>Astarion approves.
>run in and help anyway
>act 3
>find Wyll's father at the ceremony
>Mizora appear in my camp after the ceremony, apparently his father is dead when I literally did nothing yet?
>say yes to the pact to revive him
>Father back in my camp alive
>Florick is mad at wyll because he killed his father???
>shit's probably bug but ok
>do a bunch of quest
>find the submarine, try to save everyone in the prison
>Wyll's father is there and I save him despite him being in my camp already
Man that entire questline was completely bugged for me.
My dude isn't broke but he doesn't have the money to get everything and I'm doing all the side shit and looting everything
>watching friend stream
>complaining that warlock does no damage
>notice he doesn't have hex
>tell him he should probably pick it up
>"dont tell me how to play"
and i never will again
Are people actually playing on easy or story mode? Balanced or normal isn't that hard unless you're moronic. I did have to savescum past the spider b***h fight at the very end though
The most difficult part for me on tactician, was having to go back from the iron throne and get speed potions so i could rescue omeluum
i have never played dnd before in my life and balanced has become easy as frick at the part of the game I'm at. The only "challenge" I have at this point is knowing what's good/shit bc again I've never played dnd so I'm just learning on the fly
I can't imagine how piss easy story mode is
Act 1 is the only difficult part of the game even on Tactician.
It's kinda hilarious how much of a difficulty spike you get out of the Nere fight, or even doing the three goblin leaders without long resting. Then you get to Act 2 and everything folds like a lawn chair even if you haven't been scouring the map for magical items.
The class balancing is absolutely fricked. Wizard falls off early-on and Warlock falls off in act 3 when Sorceror can use twinned cast with Chain Lightning and clear 90% of the enemies in any given fight. It feels like the entire game is just tooled around running a sorceror, a bard/cleric that's geared around buffs, and then two physical beatsticks like monk/fighter/paladin that just wail on a big target and remove them from combat on the first turn.
Was gonna add 3 lvls in rogue for thief with my Barbarian, what lvl is a good time to start lvling rogue instead of barbarian for the extra action?
Depends on if you're going for 24 str or you're relying on the gloves. If gloves then ASAP. If 24 it's your last 3 levels as you need the ASIs from Fighter/Barb
rush barb for 5 for extra attack then rogue 3
So get to 5 with barb then 3 in rogue?
If you're going chuck build (which I assume you are), yeah. Also toss in a Fighter 2 for surge at some point. Maxed out you should be Champ 4 or 5/Zerk 4 or 5/Thief 3
Which one fricks more shit up? getting thief or champion first?
Thief by a lot. Extra crit range is nice but you really are looking for Surge + fighting style out of fighter. It just so happens barb 6-9 is just worse than fighter 3-4 and BM and EK aren't great for what you're doing.
thanks, sounds like a fun build
Berserker is already really fun after lvl 3 so it'll be cool watching him be able to tear shit up even more lol
Oh as a small heads up, if you're struggling to find a good weapon to chuck, there's an actually OP trident in act 3. Until then either use a returning spear or temporarily go Fighter 3 to EK and you can bind a weapon to chuck, which will return when you toss it.
Have like 6 or 7 hand axes the trident, some uncommon spear you get near the start of the game and some other shit split between the frog woman and my barbarian to throw lol
Doesn't tavern brawler only work with shit you pick up off the ground though?
Nope 🙂
You've now (partially) discovered why tavern brawler is op.
that spear was terrible for me because you can't use it 75% of the time because they gave it the hit box of a bus
Yup I noticed that too. Kept hitting the roof in the Underdark . Swapped to EK handaxe +1 at some point for that reason.
the trident in act 3 is even worse in that regard
Didn't notice it except for during the Raphael fight. Otherwise worked fine.
fight against Fat Noctis in the Throne Room of Dragon Rock made me respec into a regular old fighter. Couldn't use it even once in there
Worked on my machine, but then again I didn't have any hotfixes so that might've been a differing factor.
yeah because extra attack is huge. That being said, I started rogue first because I wanted all the skills on tactician and getting my extra attack a level late didn't hurt me any
berserker thief
he is a jar jar of this game. thank gods you can kill him
I lived with an English guy in college who acted and spoke exactly like the gay vampire but he wasn't actually gay at all and was always banging hot girls and is married to a girl 10 years younger than himself now and started dating her when she was only 15 and he was 25.
The only party member in the game worth a damn who has an actual story arc and character progression that matches your decisions within the game. Plus him stabbing daddy vamp was kino.
>all those b***hes that play Barb for zerker and tavern brawl
>not realizing the superior TIGER 6 x CHAMPION 6
Another hilarious one that only comes online at 11 is crit range stacking champ. You can get up to like a 16 or 17 crit. If you are a half-orc on top of that you can crank out a crit pretty much every turn. Quite fun.
Actually you come online at lvl 7 than jump up at lvl 9 and then again at lvl 11.
Checked. Also I was more referencing the fact that almost all the good/useable crit-range gear is late act 3. Unless you're Durge though.
the telling thing for me is that shit on Jahiera was almost as strong as my monk, and I'm pretty sure monk isn't supposed to be able to use flurry and martial arts in armor so if Tavern Brawler ever gets hit, that shit will win hands down
He's secretly the best written character in the game. They trick you into hating him at first by making him a flaming homosexual but by the end of the questline he was my favourite character.
which is why it's hilarious they gave him the ending they did if he doesn't become a lord. I don't know what changes if he does
>congrats man you're free
>AWUGGGHH THE SUN BURNS
>he runs away
>everyone laughs at him and nobody cares
>that is literally the last you will ever see of him as Wyll quips, "Guess he'll be sticking to the shadows from now on A HEH HEH HEH HEH"
I got that ending and I just took it to mean he cant go outside so they could still meet him in a pub or something
Baezel > Vampire > shadow heart >minsc > gale > jaheria > Wyll > karlach
didn't use minthara or halsin
Minthara is kinda middling as a character, she's got a less going on than everyone else. You can safely slot halsin right at the bottom, he's pretty fricking awful especially if you already don't like Karlach.
kick him in the nuts
post good looking astarions
28 AC paladin > any pure caster, frick you
How lucky that anon here was the only person to not have to deal with Orin's shield, it's a fricking Christmas miracle is what it is
Man can any of you chads teach me how to cast chain lighting into a bunch of really spread out people under sanctuary?
Black Hole them first
sanctuary stays on
may just wanna upcast a bolt then if sanctuary is causing you woes.