I'm tired of pretending that REmake is not superior to the original in every way imaginable.
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I'm tired of pretending that REmake is not superior to the original in every way imaginable.
Because now you know for sure that it isn't?
we've been talking about this game ceaselessly for 21 years, what more is there to say man?
Jill’s fat ass is heavenly.
Of course, but that's not the issue at hand
In the original or the remake?
>fat
It's nice, but wouldn't call it fat.
Personally I think Zelda II is a good game
thank you
Same anon, same 🙂
"Pretending"
I hate this meme. Grow a pair of balls and embrace what you like.
It's a meme. It's a quote from the Joker movie:
And he said he hates it.
The original has a better difficulty curve, the Remake is hard as nails from the get-go.
remake made the shotgun more trouble than it's worth against zombos, but even if it didnt, RE1 is still better
The shotgun is for dogs and hunters
Literally the only dogs I kill is those on the fake key collar balcony. I do it with the pistol too since there's herbs you can only use there so I don't mind taking damage. After that I throw the pistol into the box and never touch it again for the rest of the game. I don't shoot a single dog ever again either
I kill the dogs in the courtyard near the elevator. I died there once and now I clear them all the time.
>wasting shotgun shells on dogs
>not using the Beretta 92
NGTMI
You get it soon before the courtyards which is when the dogs first appear, and they appear in groups and move quickly from side to side. It's simple game design. Of course if you know the map layout you can just run by them, but what's the point of shooting them with the pistol when you have the other options?
God the promotional renders in the remake are so damn lame compared to the original concept art.
boots on the right look like they're actually being worn
Hope remake Chris makes it to the toilet before he pees himself
That concept art looks extremely gay
Chris looks very flamboyant here
I love the old concept art for RE, but the art style of the characters is a total mismatch for the style and tone of the game. The humans look like they're shounen JRPG characters cosplaying as law enforcement.
I always thought this aspect of the original game was kind of cool. Reading the manual made the STARS felt like this superhero crime-fighting squad. Then spend the next few hours seeing them torn apart in horrific ways.
Part of me wonders if Isao even knew that most of the STARS members were going to be gruesomely killed offscreen when designing them. The amount of effort that was put into giving them all distinct visual designs really makes it feel like they expected more to be done with them.
>I always thought this aspect of the original game was kind of cool. Reading the manual made the STARS felt like this superhero crime-fighting squad. Then spend the next few hours seeing them torn apart in horrific ways
That's an interesting way to think about it., like a loss of innocence sort of thing, where the designs are what you'd expect from a cheery T-rated game where the good guys always come out on top, but then in the actual game they're more realistically rendered (literally in the intro movie, and relatively speaking during gameplay) and for the most part are unceremoniously mutilated by zombies.
Its a video game. They need to look like identifiable characters. However it would be kind of cool if they had unlockable costume or extra that made all the characters have a uniform look like you'd obviously expect from a police force such as stars.
I’m always torn. I love REmake’s unmatched sense of atmosphere, and the crimson heads + Lisa really make the mansion grounds feel so much more dynamic. I’m not a fan of the fact that every puzzle seems to have an additional item shoehorned in. OG RE feels very snappy, but REmake is sloooow.
>OG RE feels very snappy, but REmake is sloooow.
The only valid criticism against REmake
I mostly agree. I think Lisa is a cool concept, and shows another fricked up aspect of Umbrella. But she's so trivial and adds a lot of extra wandering back and forth.
The underground has not her and the hunters and she's just not a threat and is actually hurt by the contrast to hunters which are a threat.
I could never get past the barrel either. Used to use debug mode to skip that part, or just skip straight to Sonic & Knuckles as the levels are far superior to those in Sonic 3. Eventually found the solution online years later.
wrong thread, anon.
>it's good game design.
It's artificial difficulty and you know it, stop pretending. Anyway, at that time the formula hadn't been established yet, so it makes sense that Zelda 2 would be totally different from its predecessor.
RE is literally trash.
So stop pretending it is? REmake is the best of the remakes but it is still inferior to the original.
>Jill, I turned myself into a Hunter! I'm Hunter Barry!
Yes, I ageee. At the end of the day, the reality is that REmake 1 is a perfect example of "would have done this if the tech was advanced enough".
>Yes, I ageee. At the end of the day, the reality is that REmake 1 is a perfect example of "would have done this if the tech was advanced enough".
morons need to stop saying this.
REmake is in no way what the original people involved intended. The colours are completely changed despite the ones present in the PSX game being what was intended from the earliest concept art when the game was going to be a first person shooter.
If they had "advanced enough tech", here's how RE1 would've gone.
>First person shooter, no fixed cameras
>Partner AI following you
>Guardhouse would be equivalent in size to the mansion
>Several other areas including a chapel, tower, and boathouse (plus surrounding lake)
>More characters who can survive or die
Among many other things. REmake is not at all going by "original intention"- how could it when most of the key staff weren't present during its development?
It's really hell, it's a true nightmare, all this pretending
REmake is a little too scary with all the crimsonheads. The original is spooky but still quite playable by normal people
Lisa is a joke and the halloween mansion artstyle ruins the atmosphere of the game.
Weird because ever since the remaster to this game dropped back in like 2014 the consensus has been overwhelmingly that REmake is better and even replaces the original. I disagree but this does seem to be the majority consensus on the game. I see it as more of a Halloween themed version of RE1.
I think most people haven't played either, but probably less have played the original at this point, and probably even less have played both and really thought about it.
It's a nerd topic to actually play both and try to do your own analysis, almost no one does that type of stuff. Which sucks, because I do and then no one wants to talk about it.
You do know the mainline RE games all sold really well right? Plenty of people played them to have a solid opinion on the games. RE1 was such a massive success they tried rushing RE2 which still ended up coming out very soon after RE1 anyways.
It's only been recently that I've seen the claim that the original RE is better than the remake, mostly in the art department. I can see where they're coming, since the mansion does look far too run down in the remake. That said, the voice acting...oof
It's actually really interesting playing the original again after years of only playing the remake. Despite Trevor and the Crimsonheads throwing in some really creepy new stuff, the original is different enough from the remake in the minute details that you get a pretty interesting experience. I can't see why a player of either would take such a strong stance against either one as to never play the other.
I agree. Replaying games is a great experience, like rereading books. You appreciate them in a different way. Old games are great for that because they tend to be pretty short, which benefits replays.
Sure. I don't know if you have numbers, but here's some from Wikipedia:
> All PlayStation versions of the game have sold a combined 5.08 million units worldwide.
And here's from the REmakes Wikipedia page:
> In May 2008, Capcom revealed that a total of 1.35 million copies of the game were sold
Maybe we could double that number since the release of the PC version in 2014, plus emulation plus whatever.
So, what I'm talking about is someone who played both, which is going to be less than the sales of either game, so we're already in a small population of people. They then played both, relatively closely in time to each other. And then did so while trying to sort of critically compare them, which most people don't do in general because most people don't critically consume media.
How many people do you think fit this criteria? A couple thousand?
REmake has been my favorite video game since it first came out, and I'm about to do another Real Survival run for Halloween. I like the original too, but I think REmake is a straight upgrade.
The only thing that drags remake down for me is that visually it's just so fricking boring. It's such a generic setting that even with all the improvements to the puzzles and stuff, I just never have any interest in replaying it.
I was absolutely blown away by the visuals back then, but I can see how you might find them too drab. The original is certainly a lot more colorful.
It's not that it's drab, it's just that it's such a straightforward horror aesthetic compared to the original's cheesiness and colors. I think the latter lets the survival horror shine, while the remake tries to kind of clumsily rope in a more typical horror with it.
the sad part is the visuals are fricked today just because
you only have two options a crt filter with reshade or god awful ai textures
>I'm tired of
Seeing RE threads all the time.
MODS make a permanent thread like the DOOM one.
I really enjoy RE, but I'm pretty sure somebody (or somebodies) is just subtly shitposting at this point, trying to see how many RE threads they can have going at once.
There's only 4 RE threads
Oh wait I missed one. Okay, but there's still only 5 RE threads right now
It's still unusual to have that many threads about one series at the same time, plus there's been a sudden surge of RE threads over the past month in general, maybe it has to do with the odd "Original vs REmake" fight that cropped up
I mean, the amount of RE discussion varies but it's always been an extremely popular franchise on /vr/. Certainly in the top 5 most discussed franchises here
It is a lot but it's also October. Same reason more and more Castlevania threads keep popping up.
As someone who actually uses the threads, the janny idea is a pure schizo theory. Two of the threads in the image are basic template threads to spur low quality discussion (the REmakegay one and the RE2 is bad one), another is about an actual new mod for RE1, and the fourth thread is another generic RE ports thread.
These all pop up all the time with the exception of the mod thread, which only exists because the mod came out last week.
it's one anon, or possibly the Janny
when he starts playing a game he starts like 5 threads and you'll keep getting new threads constantly until he finishes
It's definitely not the janny
When you guys mention REmake are you referring to the ps4 games or the GameCube versions? I wish the gc re1 had more control options, is this addressed in the ps4 re REmake?
the ps4 version is exactly the same
it's just worse black levels are fricked and some backgrounds aren't even animated anymore and the backgrounds are cropped but HD
HD adds directional movement.
Too bad the terrible GameCube directional pad makes it unplayable
the gamecube control stick is fine for REmake
Playing resident evil is analog is never fine. The octagon analog gate on the analog stick does nothing for tank controls, the purpose of the octagonal gate was to be able to flick the stick in one of 8 directions fast as possible. In other words made for games with full range of motion. Like if you are about to fall off a tiny platform Mario Sunshine and need to rapidly adjust, you can flick the analog. Resident evil you are only pressing 4 directions. Unless you are playing the entire game flicking the stick. The gate is useless.
>Resident evil you are only pressing 4 directions
Anon, I usually play with a keyboard and you use 8 directions. Up and right together is a direction. You can turn right while moving forward. There’s 8 possible ways to move
Pretending to be moronic gets you nowhere, using 2 keys on your keyboard does not magically make a 3rd key. You can only choose to move 4 directions what you do with the keys together does not replicate Mario's ability to move in which ever direction he pleases with a pull of the analog. Trying playing Crash 1, then Croc, and tell me they're the same.
Anon, you are either trolling or moronic
>my argument now, is I have no argument.
Good job anon
You can
1:Walk straight forward
2:Walk forward while turning right
3:Turn right on the spot
4:Walk back while turning right
5:Walk straight back
6:Walk back while turning left
7:Turn left on the spot
8:Walk forward while turning left
You have 8 different movement options in classic RE
Pressing two directions does not make a new button
You can
1:Move forward
2:Rotate right
3:Rotate left
4:Walk backwards
You can combine these movements like you can hold r1 to aim, and press x to fire, however combing these actions does not magically make a new button appear, and they are just two actions combined.
Alright I'm just going to ignore your bait
>can't think of an argument
I'll... I'll... just ignore
Are you guys really arguing about whether holding up and either left or right allows the RE character to move NW or NW
Normally analog sticks are atrocious for classic RE but it's actually decent on GC because the stick has an octagonal gate. So the GC d-pad being horrible isn't that big of a deal
I find it easier to save Barry in REmake than the original
The Lisa shit was boring and stupid
It’s unsettling to me and I don’t care how many horse tranquilizers you stick up your vagenis, you’ll never be a women. Lisa Trevor is more of a women than you’ll ever be, sweaty.
Gotta love the Jillster