>indoors
>narrow hallway
>baked lighting
>tanking that hard
>at 1296p no less
A console problem or a Bethesda problem? Is the Xbox Series S holding us back so much?
>indoors. >narrow hallway. >baked lighting. >tanking that hard. >at 1296p no less
>Um no, see thats fine because nintendo did it.
>Todd the Godd will surely save us
Unsurprising, if true.
the creation engine is CPU-heavy and consoles have weak CPUs
this
Their graphics hardware is already dramatically underclocked to the point that the PS5/BOX put out no better performance than a PC with a 1060.
Their CPUs are even further hamstrung, yet they still fricking overheat.
Don't think it matters. Nobody actually owns an Xbox and all the sales will be on PC.
console goys will slop it up regardless of FPS because they have no other options. If they cared about performance they would just buy a high end PC but they either don't care, or they can't afford one. Beggars, choosers, etc...
tbh im nervous my 10gb 3080 will have troubles running this. When this game releases its going to be the most stuttery laggy shit ever lol.
The SEX only has like 2GB read on the SSD, very likely an m2 ssd will remedy whatever issues console babbys are having. It's also hardware that was pretty mediocre at launch let alone 3 years later.
sounds based, can't wait to play. have a good evening op
>Do 30fps defenders, support 20fps too?
Da
unplayable trash.
perfectly playable kino
every time they measure framerate from video it's wrong
just wait for bespoke foundry video, if it really dips below 30 they'll shit on it
>baked lighting
not true
Digital Foundry has an in depth video of Starfieds graphics
It's an interior cell
How the frick is the series s holding this back? Shouldn't it run better if it's being held back? Do you morons even think before you type?
Most people here are tech illiterate.
Still better resolution than PS4Pro which was supposed to be 4k?
>baked lighting
You're lying, they use dynamic (non rtx lighting) and global illumination. There is no way to bake so many textures
>console warrior twitter shit
i guess just enjoy the 0fps on playstation????
warrior twitter shit
That's really all Ganker has been, in spirit, since 2007
B-but the scope. It's trying preserve the concept of slideshows you saw as kids in elementary school. The frames will still be in the double digits. It was a creative choice; not a limitation of hardware. Our eyes can't see past Todd's sweet little lies!
we never needed more than 480p 80hz rgb electron beams
modern tech is a acam to get you to spend $1k on a screen that cant even display true black
Um Sony sisters?
Todd can't even put a screenshot out on Steam without showing his game being bugged. Starfield is going to be the biggest mess possible with an apology letter that'll make Cyberpunk look small.
post proof or shut the frick up
Honestly, this is the real reason I haven't bought a game console.
I'll admit they are stronger than my computer but it doesn't sound like they can even hit 1080p on some of these games, even some of the fidelity is turned down for the consoles themselves. And yet they dare to put that they are '8K' capable. I suppose the entire game has to be practically 2D blocks for that to be technically true.
It sounds like they need to release a Pro series already for both consoles.
I can understand early on in the introduction of the RTX meme that they stuffed these 2070ish(?) cards in the machines but feels like they need something stronger. Same with whatever CPU they have stuffed in these machines.
the funny part is that these consoles should still destroy the games comming out today, since they've barely advanced past the 8th gen graphically. some new releases even look worse than last gen. it's all a product of widespread industry brain drain.
The GPUs are 2070 Super (-ish) but they're Radeon so they're worse at RT, even console level RT, than a 2070S
The CPUs are underclocked R7 3700X approximately and iirc some cut down cache
I love if when console gays talk tech.
As if the size of the game impacts performance that much. Its not rendering everything at once.
remember the MUH TFLOPS was being thrown around constantly like anybody actually knew that frick it meant
I wish I saved that webcomic about peasants exclaiming about Playstation and VRAM as if they knew it was some amazing thing but the punchline is "But what be VRAM?"
Nevermind, I found it
>ICYMI
What.
In case you missed it.
>b-b-but snoy
lmao nothing but mindbroken morons here
20fps is fine
>game "held back by Series S" runs badly on the stronger consoles
you're kidding, right? nobody is dumb enough to fall for the "Series S is holding [...] back" nonsense. it's bizarre cope for devs who can't add graphics settings to their fricking 100 million dollar game.
>caring about console performance
>in a bethesda game
If you buy this shit on xbox you deserve it honestly. That said it's not just a console problem but a bethesda problem as well I won't lie I love these games but they're as well optimized as square wheels, at least on PC there'll be mods to fix it™
did this Black person really analyze a youtube videos FPS and pull conclusions based on it, AND tech illiterates on Ganker eat it up? Color me shocked
protip: that footage is not running on a fricking xbox to begin with, dev builds are all on PC
im not going to talk about fps in a game thats in space and has space dragons
20 fps... bros, even movies are 24 fps. Starfielders, we are even lower than movie games...
I will play Todd kino with 2 fps if I have to
If you're a console Black person you're already used to shitty performance. Fallout 4 dropped to like 12 fps on the Xbone regularly, the fricking npc shit eating xbox players will be fine with it. And if you're on PC just don't be poor lol.
>FPS counter on weapon
Neat.
>game forces you to play in 4k
>it's not even actually 4k
>performance suffers because of this
How many people even have 4k displays anyway? Among these, how many are normalgays who would absolutely not notice if the game was rendered in 1080p? There should AT LEAST be the option to play the game in 1080p and get a consistent frame rate. Why do devs hate giving consolefriends options? I remember, in MH World, if you were on the base PS4, you couldn't toggle between the modes: resolution, performance, and ... beauty? I can't remember what it was called. It sure would have been nice, though, to disable the volumetric rendering and get at least a locked 30 on console. This is why I'm a PCgay now.
>How many people even have 4k displays anyway?
Tons of people. 4K is the standard now, and you can get dirt cheap (shitty) 4K tvs at Costco for like $250.
Guess I'm a fossil, then. I have never seen the point of going beyond 1080p for gaming, especially when stuff like AA exists. It should still be an option, in my opinion, but I guess 4K is more ubiquitous than I thought.
I'm talking about TVs, mind you, which is what most console players use. You need 4K when you get to large screen sizes. I have 75" TV and 1080p looks like dogshit on it.
75 is way too big though
Nah, bigger is better. I was worried it would be too big but it's frickin awesome, and I would gladly buy a bigger one next time.
Literally never said that. I was talking about TVs. 4K TVs are standard now.
You're losing latency
I don't care, I don't play games competitively. My TV gets 10.8ms 4k@60Hz, and 13.3ms with HDR according to rtings which is good enough for me.
>4K is the standard now
Hilariously delusional, you can purchase a 4k screen but it doesn't matter when the actual game is checkerboarding the resolution. You're effectively wasting your money for nothing. That's just stupid even if you want to justify it.
I meant in terms of the TVs. Nobody buys 1080p TVs now. Do they even sell them anymore? And yes, I agree which is why I hook up my PC to my TV instead so I can get real 4K.
They do but 1080p is rare, like tvs without androidtv. I actually have a 1080p tv because it's old, but it's also quite small due to the shelves around it so it looks crisp enough.
Not literally, there's still quite a few people purchasing 1080p monitors anon, and a lot of tryhards in le esports and twitch still play on 1080 144-240hz. They wouldn't manufacture them if they didn't sell. 1080p isn't dominating anymore but its certainly not being outclassed unless you bundle 1440p and 4k users.
He said tvs, not monitors.
>he thinks consoles can run native 4k
they can't even run 1080p
I wonder how common FSR is going to be in console games moving forward. 4K isn't going to be common now that they don't have cross gen compatibility to fall back on.
>I wonder how common FSR is going to be in console games moving forward.
it's already the standard. pretty much every AAA title used it and it looks like shit. console Black folk are too blinded by their brand loyalty and genuine moronation to notice how hard they're being israeliteed by lazy/incompetent devs. they aren't even playing at native resolutions anymore. and 60 fps "performance" mode is more lik 30-40 fps mode these days. never forget that this shit ran at 60 fps on a fricking PS4.
Why are people still harping on about FPS in 2023
If you're complaining the FPS in a multiplat is too low, you are openly professing that you are forced to play it on console because you are too poor to afford a pc. And it isnt an issue on pc
Why is this information you'd want to broadcast to the world
CPU limitation. that's also why consoles suck at ray tracing.
Doubt it. It has a 4800 in it.
>3.6GHz
that was high end 10 years ago by PC standards. and you'd be surprised by how much a shitty engine with a lack of optimization or proper thread utilization can frick over performance, no matter the specs. i.e. every UE4 and Frostbite game.
please stop pretending to know about computers because people said the xbone and ps4 had weak cpus, parroting that is dumb, both the PS5 and series x have good processors
stop coping, console tard. I didn't say it's bad. it's just not enough for gay tracing and shitty engine standards. 5ghz is the high end speed for CPU's these days.
>people said the xbone and ps4 had weak cpus
They really did though. They couldn't handle open world games at 60fps, and the Xbone famously struggled with titles like Dead Rising 3 at launch. The PS5 and Series X have good CPUs thankfully, but now that we're leaving the cross-gen era we'll definitely see how they won't be enough for the shit that some devs have cooking up.
the xbone and ps4 did, but that dumbass thinking a 3800/4800 is 'too weak' was just parroting that sentiment because muh clock speeds
>because people said the xbone and ps4 had weak cpus
they did, though. they had shitty mobile CPU's.
human eye cant see over 24 fps anyway
Its their game engine. I'm not too literate in understanding the technical prowess but I can't imagine its a good thing to have so many high quality assets loading at consistently fast rate when Creation Engine has a notoriously terrible method for rendering distant objects.
Don't care, already pre-ordered, will have fun playing
>Imagine being a console peasant
>Bethesda game runs like a Bethesda game
LOL I say
LMAO even
>more "muh series S" deflection
It's Bethesda. The fact they aren't saying it crashed at least 3 times trying to get that clip is a feat.
You can have a 4090 with a 13900k and this game is still going to run like dog shit.
nah. a 4090 can brute force that shit. unless it's a hardware utilization problem, like Jedi Survivor.
i have a pc, this isnt an issue to people with a few braincells
Todd Howard is the only person who will be playing this game on Xbox
Here's the thing I dont understand, why the frick are designing games for 4K when the games cant even run at a competent rate at lower resolutions? are we supposed to play at slideshow framerates because the industry over glorifies a crisp image over having a smoother fps?
why the frick cant we have 1080-1440p 60 fps instead?
the games aren't 4k, they're just upscaled to 4k
So its all just bullshit marketing speak and consoles never really were capable of running games at native 4k? What a bunch of fricking phonies.
yes. 8k is next. it's already being thrown around these days. especially in PC gaming markets.
It probably doesn't help that the console industry is probably nudged by TV manufacturers to push for 4k, even though the bulk of games can't handle it. I guess you can call it the equivalent of pushing for 1080p support during the PS3/360 era when consoles could barely handle 720p.
>Here's the thing I dont understand, why the frick are designing games for 4K when the games cant even run at a competent rate at lower resolutions?
it's all marketing bs to sell 4k TV's. and it works because console gays don't even notice/understand that they're playing at shitty upscaled resolutions. they don't understand that shit.
because big grafix makes shitzillions of dollars. new console demands bigger grafix, you fricking new to this shit dude?
0 FPS on PS5.
Don't care I'm playing it on PC anyway.
shitty PC and used to 20fps chads we keep winning
can't wait to play the modded game years from now after buying the GOTY version for 20 bucks on a steam sale
>#playstation
>#ps5
Why the frick is this homosexual tagging the pis5 if its not even coming out on that piece of shit?
the same reason you saved and are now posting that image, negative internet attention
Sounds like cope.
>Bethesda games on a console
??????????????????
Are we sincerely supposed to pretend like they haven't been churning out dumbdown RPGs since Oblivion?
that's exactly why he typed that post. no mods to fix that shit on console.
They do have mods now, but very few, and no script extender instantly means zero access to the best mods.
so what you're saying is: no mods
Mods wont fix it in general, the only reason why Skyrim popped off was because the story wasn't a total travesty but Fallout 4 was so bad it actually made unplayable for a lot of people.
https://mods.bethesda.net/en/skyrim?number_results=20&order=desc&page=1&platform=XB1&product=skyrim&sort=popular&text=
There are 25,000 mods listed for skyrim on the Xbone
Storing data on 1,000 different planets pls understand
>#PS5 #Playstation
Could you be any more transparently asspained?
>rebuild your entire game engine
>push the limits of it to the very brink for your first game release
based Todd
next gen game, please understand.
How did they manage to make it look worse than fallout 4 on the ps4/xbox?
The lighting looks very flat on character models, it looked better on the first presentation.
skybox looks atrocious it's ps1 level of bad, while lighting looks like ps3 rage game
checkerboard rendering just ruins everything
checkerboard rendering has nothing to do with graphics. it only degrades image quality to save some performance.
I'm just going to point out his trigger discipline, that's all.
>A console problem or a Bethesda problem?
both
Oh look another Snoy so angry he can't play Starfield that he has to make stuff up. I only Todd Howard, not shills
30 FPS is alright for console Black folk because that's what they've grown up with since forever.
Us non subhuman PChads will play at 60+ FPS as usual.
>#PlayStation #PS5
?
>jim ryan pfp esl snoy
Unbelievable that 60 fps isn't the standard in 2023. Fricking disgusting. Console plebs deserve better
they clearly don't, since they won't even fight for it. they'll just point fingers and screech:
>"b-but the other side does it too! why can *insert other people's favourite corporation* frick over its customers but not mine?!"
i'm not gonna buy a gpu for $300
>playing Starfield on gayseXbox
Why is 60 FPS such a lost art these days?
Isn't Starfield MS exclusive? Why is he tagging Playstation?
to start a flame war
Because it's a disingenuous Snoy, just like OP.
>I'm going to pretend to enjoy shit so I can feel like I won a console war
console Black folk trully are the goodest of goys
don't care, going to pirate on Linux and stick it in Valve's container
Most powerful console ever by the way
>expecting optimization
>from fricking bethesda
they'll be lucky if the game even runs on day 1