Insomniac has been relegated to only making marvel games. Trust me, the wolverine announcement is because they’re desperate. And I always write this, the recent ratchet and clank try hard to be wholesome, great and imaginative. They’re the most forced games in the industry
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But...PlayStation exclusive...
Its a terrible game, short, boring and pozzed.
That counts too
it's actually pretty great.
nah
How was it pozzed?
>How was it pozzed?
Female main character that is ugly instead of hot. Nuff said.
half of the story pushed how worthless Ratchet is and how Rivet is better at basically everything
You play most of the game as a female replacement for the titular character.
What are you talking about? Seriously it’s not that big of a deal. Compared to other modern female protags, she’s quite likable. I swear, you people are just as whiny and sensitive as the left wing trannies you complain about all the time
50/50 (more like 60/40 actually) is awful. Nobody wanted it. Ratchet was neutered so even the parts where you play as him are bland af. Ratchet is dead and it's not about muh trannies muh females or whatever, it's about the series losing its core soul since the PS2/3 era.
My friend is a massive R&C fan and I think his issue with the reboot of the first game frames the problem really well.
The first game had Ratchet as a laid back mechanic who just wanted to do his job, but got roped into saving the universe or whatever against his will until he eventually started to roll with it.
The reboots made him some generic wannabe hero who gets a chance to live the dream, which watered down any flavor he had as a character.
Watch the GamingBrit video, they nail it down really well. Frick nu Ratchet
Linking the video before dead thread, even one of the devs commented on it.
What did the devs say?
>complains the game is pozzed
>it’s not about the trannies and females
I can agree that the writing and character depictions could be improved. I still like Rivet as a protag compared to others such as Abby from TLoU. I still had fun with the gameplay in Rift Apart. Rivet has a fraction of original Ratchet’s smugness. The devs explicitly said they tried to have a 50/50 split. I’m nitpicking but Ratchet gets most of the return to Savali mission and Rivet’s playtime is inflated by the arena challanges. Regardless, I would rather get more R&C than the endless stream of Marvelslop capeshit. Resistance and Sunset Overdrive will probably never come back.
I'm not the anon complaining about the game being pozzed, although the criticism is valid, it's just that even if it wasn't it'd still be a huge piece of shit.
Why play Rift Apart when you can load the PS2 trilogy? Seriously, can you give me ONE reason to?
i never asked for much from RnC games, but Rift Apart is somehow worse than Tools of Destruction, the arena sucks, less planets, repeated planets(one of the worst ones in Tools of Destruction for some reason), has a planet wasted on an empty open world for a shallow set piece, gimmick alien isolation level that's only effective on first playthrough, terrible weapons, seriously the buzz blades yet again!? who the frick at insomniac loves these guns so much?
the story is just awful, it's not even funny, it tries to be mature and have a narrative but it does absolutely nothign with it expect retell the first game's story with another character, and poorly, the key moments from rnc1 are used here terribly, unearned, and feel rushed or poorly thoughtout, ratchet is an even bigger joke than tools, insomniac completely forgets about giant clank, hover boots are so op now that it makes clank useless, at least Crack in Time had an excuse story wise, nexus nerfed them, and rift apart made them superior to clank. Rivet is just as bland as modern Ratchet. Kit story arc makes no sense, rehashed villain, and then made into an even bigger joke, for a generic palette swap, rushed story with tons of holes. the whole dimentionator thing at the start is just fricking moronic. the entire gimmick for this game, the rifts, is barely used, and for the most part it's a glorified hookshot. This game is such a massive frick up, it makes Nexus look like Republic Commando 2
also, dont forget the amount of needless talking during the game. its got the same shit that made KH3 and FFXV almost impossible to enjoy because everyone is talking unnecessarily the whole fricking time.
i got halfway into the game and dropped it because it was so bad. i dont even plan to finish it.
>pozzed
i'll buy it now just to annoy you
>18
nice! only 8millions to go!
Lmao the "exclusives" that do exist on the PS5 aren't even bought by snoys because they don't play games
Bud demon souls'remake broke like 2million units too.
>Bud demon souls'remake broke like 2million units too.
I don't see how this correlates to Ratchet & Clank.
Most people didn’t have PS5s when this game came out.
Most people didn't have a Switch when Breath of the Wild came out.
It was out on Wii U moron. This literally only released on PS5 during a time where they were damn near impossible to buy for over a year.
>It was out on Wii U moron.
the wii U sold less in 5 years than the PS5 sold within 2 years
WiiU version was the most popular one in speedrunning for a very long time.
Literally the highest selling Sony games are fricking Playstation 4 versions of their new games.
They do pay for Journalist's goodwill
That's ironic, this was the only one on PC and I don't recall the franchise ever having trouble like this besides All 4 One.
sony is gonna release their games day 1 on PC soon
Wrong. Sony is going to release a PC soon.
>snoy at it
they've been releasing PCs since 2013 m8
Does this really surprise anyone? Ratchet & Clank has always been fairly niche and is mostly still remembered by people who went on to become furries, giving it such an inflated budget was suicide.
>niche game
>still has an $81 million budget
Wether a game is niche or not is defined by its target demographic, not by budget.
I've been gaming since 98 and I've never played ratchet and clank. Not even at a friends house
Me neither, everyone had Crash instead. R&C was just a cartoony niche franchise that surfed along on the low productions costs of that time, similar to Jak & Daxter.
This. I have never met anyone who's professed to playing/loving the Ratchet and Clank series. 9 out of 10 times, it's always Sonic, Mario, or Crash.
Post teeth, limey.
frick imagine being you two?
Get woke, go broke.
You're seriously missing out. The early games are among the best games ever, IMO.
You’re a zoomer.
You'll enjoy it. Sky pooper is supreme tho
Same, don't know why, though. I imagined them being pretty similar to Metal Arms: Glitch in the System, and I really liked that game.
>I've been gaming since 98
ZOOM ZOOM
The oldest zoomer was 1 (one) year old in 98, I highly doubt they would be playing on a ps1.
I played a slice of one on a PS2 demo disk, I remember having fun. Not enough to ask my parents to buy the actual game, though.
because you've been an xbox halo gamer for most of your life
That personal anecdote doesn't really mean anything, I've been playing since earlier and missed really big stuff like Resident Evil or Halo. The only game I would estimate no one has missed if they've been playing games for a while are Mario Kart or Smash.
Me neither. Everyone either had Jak and Daxter or Ape Escape.
>I've been gaming since '98
Holy shit the white race deserves its suicide and death by this point
You don't even need to tell me you got the vaccine and wore a mask like a lobotomised, low testosterone coward as well
Companies like Sony want all their games to have the "large budget, huge returns' model. They should be giving their projects a diverse variety of budgets rather than a "diverse" variety of woke morons.
>They should be giving their projects a diverse variety of budgets
Square Enix is good at this.
I guess but at the same time they blow this strategy up by sinking hundreds of millions on those mainline FF projects.
They keep undercutting the cheap games and over funding the big ones.
I'm kinda sad that SE found what should be a fricking winning model and there's even decent games here but they somehow shot themselves in the foot. Its impressive if it wasn't from a company that could definitely put out great games.
Ahahaha what a homosexual
I remember the character designer of Rivet saying they made her expecting as many laws as thr furries could draw of her.
I am pretty sure all the woman fanartists prefer a more feminine character design to draw.
That designer must be laughing to this day
God damn, I think I'd rather work with a bunch of street shitters, than those two insufferable people.
This is the crazy one that keeps getting passed around and fired by every game studio but "somehow" turns up at yet another one with a new job like 6 months later innit?
>the lead writer, the lead character TD (the rigger), and I wanted to keep (Rivet) as-is.
It's funny how this woke troupe completely forgot to consult the opinion of the CHARACTER DESIGNERS in the team, you know, the experts that studied for years and made it all the way into the company after passing through a very competitive hiring and interview process? Yeah those guys.
How about asking what they think? Or maybe they already knew how the character designers felt, since they're complaining about their designs. That's why they don't want to hear them.
PS look at how this Xavier ad-hominems with "Everyone else in the discussion was a white cis male" (therefore, they should've shut up, is that what you mean? Get the frick off their company then, butthole)
The entitlement.
Some of the Lombax designs posted earlier ITT are genuinely cool. I want to see more of that not and I'm not even heavily invested in R&C. It is genuinely distressing to me that all the hard work of these character designers gets thrown into the woodchipper because these people seriously think putting breasts on a space rat is going to spark a Rapeocaust.
Success breeds parasites.
On one hand, I prefer Rivet to Angela in terms of design.
On the other, Rivet is pretty fricking boring.
Take a risk you weirdos.
Males are the main demo for vidya.
Want money? Put in things males like.
No put in things men like? Sales go down.
Why is this so hard to understand?
When you are in control of a property that seemingly can't fail, you are tempted to insert your own shit hoping it will catch on with the large fan-base.
Does anyone actually wonder whether lombaxes are mammals?
Now that we know the game lost millions, I'd say the people objecting to Sam and Xavier were vindicated.
>a guy made a twitter post about her design
>THIS COULD BE US!
>I got yelled at for making everyone uncomfortable
>YEAH WELL I WAS UNCOMFORTABLE! ME!
Why are these touchy buttholes so upset by the concept of breasts and prominent, not even exaggerated, femininity?
The only "case" they had was for Sheila. Otherwise there no "rules" saying female Lomboxes can't have breasts(considering they've ever actually shown a canon one). Self righteous motherfrickers.
>considering they've ever actually shown a canon one
Angela Cross.
>Sam Maggs
It's crazy how much damage one nutcase was able to do to the video game industry. Not Anita Sarkeesian level, but pretty damn close.
I guess one person can make a difference.
This is a Sony problem. They market themselves as "serious movie games for serious gamers" which leaves games like R+C and Gravity Rush out in the cold, contrast with Xbox's "Game for every Gamer" marketing. Plus Rift apart had the terrible self insert OC fem lombax which always loses sales.
The game would have stilled sold like shit even without the fem lombax.
>contrast with Xbox's "Game for every Gamer" marketing
Xbox's output is worse than Sony's. Halo/Gears fell off and they've been reduced to buying out megapublishers in order to make up for the rest of their lineup being even more niche than games like R+C and Gravity Rush.
xbox's game for every gamer market doesnt sell anything but cod and fifa
It's a mediocre franchise, has been starting from the PS3 era. Post-PS2 Ratchet and clank is a soulless shell of what it was. And the dialog is fricking terrible.
This, it's like making a new Spyro or Crash game and then putting shit ton of resources into it. It doesn't matter how much you do if it's fundamentally trash. The new creators just don't give a frick or even understand the soul of these old franchises. But with the furry thing I disagree, when I was in 6th grade, Ratchet & Clank was considered based as frick.
Yeah, Crash's parents are long gone. Nu-Naughty Dog which is full of "diverse" people can't do shit.
while I'm not one to defend Neil for being the Cuckman that he is, the quote here is taken out of context;
TLOU games are games sure, but he was referring to the level of enjoyment people should have when engaging with the game. If you are gleefully have a good time in a world as messed up as TLOU in the same calibre as Crash, then there's something very wrong with the player.
Hence, the word "fun" is inappropriate when used to describe the series.
Its like saying you should be having "fun" when playing Silent Hill.
...But I do have fun playing Silent Hill...And Resident Evil...I don't understand the point you're trying to make here. Furthermore a game can be both "engaging" and "fun" so Cuckman is already wrong in that.
Could be he's using the wrong words but more than likely this just shows how stupid he is. I mean, he wasn't in charge of the first LOU that everyone liked after all.
Cuckman was more than likely using the wrong wrongs in combination with being stupid, but TLOU games are stories about living in an incredibly sadistic world. People did say the gameplay in 2 was better than the first entry, but even then, people found it hard to have 'fun' in the game because the setting, tone and atmosphere was really uncomfortable, not to mention the absolute brutality involved in playing through it.
You play as a literal psycho. Neil was out of line when he said that, but he was right at the same time. I wouldn't call my time spent with TLOU 'fun'. They are decent games and fun to play (aka engaging) but I sure as hell found it hard to stomach.
Sounds like every walking simulator where you can get the same experience as playing as you would watching it on youtube.
I laughed at the white phosphorous, won't lie.
Pic unrelated, zoomer homosexual.
>fairly niche
>9 mainline games
>a million billion spinoff games
>a fricking movie
It's not nice to lie.
Jak was infinitely better than Ratchet and Jak's games aren't even that great (except the first one)
never played jak 1 but jak 2 and 3 were worse than all ratchet games on the ps2
No, this proves Snoys don't buy games, only cod, fifa and now Spiderman
Thats not it at all. It was on a dead console, a twenty year old franchise that peaked during the PS2 and from a company who was declining in popularity.
Ratchet & Clank was popular because they released a bunch of games in a short timeframe.
Correction ratchet released bunch of games in short timeframes because Sony liked the games so much the ordered insomniac to develop a sequel before the first game come out + the Japanese liked the series alot so the third game was again demand in the middle of the second game development and the same happened again until bunch of developers got sick get out the company's if not the industry as whole because of the crunch including the main writer than the ps3 era began and they kinda over promised Sony with the online mod so they worked on smaller games as a compensation
>furries
>inflated
>Rift apart
>Turn the main character into a side character
>Did the same thing with Spiderman 2
What is wrong with these homosexuals? Seriously. Woooah we just travelled to an alternate dimension where everyone is either black or a woman.
Its not like that was the cause. PS5 shortage, and once the shortages were fixed Rift Apart was on PS+ so everyone got it included with shit they were already paying for.
The REAL cause is thinking a R&C game needs an 81 million dollar fricking budget. These games are 10-12 hours of shootan fun with fun weapons, they are pushing visuals and shit too hard. I want more shit on screen, not less but prettier models
I understand that, I'm just half expecting these gays to kill ratchet off in the next game and replace him with Rivet. Their formula at this point is see-through
Insomniac could’ve cut costs by just relying on Unreal instead of making their own engine.
They would also have to pay for said engine.
No the real costs come from the employees. Let's say one typical Insomniac employee costs 70k a year, development of their game is five years, that's 350k of dev time for a single employee. No imagine having hundreds of employees and on top of their salaries you have to purchase their tech and workstations, the cost of the building and various other expenses most working people don't even think of. This is why after a project is finished layoffs follow shortly after and why a lot of other companies start their dev teams off with only a few people building on the early stages before bringing on more people later when development really kicks off. It's why the older dev times were grueling and artists would secretly insert their personal interests into the games as a way to make their work more tolerable. Now with all the oversight and longer dev times, you don't get that personal charm anymore and things get more expensive as well.
Wow someone on Ganker actually knows how game dev budgets work
The game had an inflated budget due to its messy story development. Sam Maggs as head writer at the time had caused the team to miss important deadlines to the point where Marcus Smith, the creative director, had to put his foot down and deliver the news on how shit the game was going. You can easily tell based on public knowledge over its previously convoluted plot, constant rewrites and disagreements on Rivet's character, and the fact that they were still making changes to the story by the time the game was even announced.
Ultimately, Maggs ended up being replaced by a writer who re-wrote the entire script.
Insomniac wants to become a heavy hitter and their transformation over the past decade shows that they won't be going back to the classic development that kicked off their initial success in the first place. To be fair, from a business perspective I can't blame them. The Spider-man games are guaranteed money printers and so long as they are able to keep their agendas in check this will mean Insomniac will be in a comfortable position for years to come.
Blue-haired feminist writers can only ever self-insert. They have no imagination and are only capable of envisioning themselves as the character they’re writing. Also insomniac wanted to be pixar starting with the ps3 era.
Honestly, Ratchet's story was concluded during Into the Nexus, and its obvious they have no idea what the frick they're doing with him, to the point that they retconned why he doesn't want to see the lombaxes in Rift Apart in order to pretend there's a conflict
But yeah, Rift Apart was Rivet and Kit's origin story as heroes, they should have fricked off and stayed in their dimension, but the credits show them traveling with Ratchet and Clank, so I'm sure it'll be them overshadowing those two in the next game, when it comes out for PS7
Ratchet was one of my favorite series growing up. Crack in Time was even a 10/10 for me. I've yet to play Rift Apart and not sure I should at this point with all the woke shit its pushing. Shame to see another series I loved die.
>I've yet to play Rift Apart and not sure I should at this point with all the woke shit its pushing
It's not that bad on that front. It's certainly not Spider-Man 2. The main problem with the writing is that the jokes simply aren't funny 95% of the time. It's a fun game otherwise.
The story is very childish and wouldn't appeal to anyone who as mentally grown out of a early grade school level mindset.
Good thing they made a game instead of a book, then.
This woke push has been in the making since at least the last half of ps3 x360 generation. The industry didn't bother because most were closeted wokies waiting for an opportunity to push wokeness into mainstream gaming.
>put a chick in it
>make her lame and gay
I hate what they did to Ratchet & Clank after PS2
this
Series lost its soul when they started trying to make it more “cinematic”
Ratchet always felt wrong after PS2 his face got more sterile
So why are they making another one?
Because too many people are shipping Ratchet with Rivet and that's a no-no so they need to correct the record and make her an outwardly obvious lesbian
I firmly believe that western Sony would knowingly incur a $50 million+ loss just to "own the chuds"
To get more mileage out of it, the assets were already created so it won't cost as much this time.
Rivet, Ratchet, Clank and Kit are all going to be adventuring together in the next game and that's a good thing!
>Combat shauld have
>Grav boots
Doesn't Ratchet use Magneboots in these situations?
Gravity Boots are literally just the Magneboots but you can jump and still use weapons, if both were an option, there would be no reason to use the Magneboots over the Gravity Boots.
Repping my boy space dandy
Is this what being a director is?
>It should have this vague concept, kinda like this and like that, you guys can figure it out.
Are they just really shitty ideas guys that get all the credit?
They got ransomwared, imagine their IQ.
Tick Tock, diversity hires are ticking bombs.
I totally get what you're saying and I think it definitely has some truth to it.
However, my impression is that there's different degrees of specificity to ask from the concept artists -- maybe you get better results out of them by being very general?
Or also, the concept artists will bring you lots of variations on an idea, which then the director can begin being specific about. So it's a back-and-forth process, of which we're seeing only the first step
>space dandy
At least someone has good taste there, baby
I think they want to keep their franchise alive in case they fail to meet the pretty heavy Marvel licensing contract obligations (every game must sell a minimum of 6 million units within the first year; not going to be possible if one of these games happens to suck).
As someone who loves 3D platformers Ratchet and Clank on PS5 was a bad, boring game. The only thing I liked about it was Rivet.
Astro's Playroom was infinitely better. Insomniac had no idea how to make this kind of game. They should stick to cinematic Ubislop.
maybe if they didn't cut the breasts it would have sell among furries
Bring back breast inflation flips.
I'd post bigger ones, but mods can be petty trigger happy.
why are they spending so much goddamn money on making a game?
Insomniac is currently bizarro Game Freak, where they pump too much money into an IP that would otherwise do decently just so they can go “whoa cool fur textures”
Pokemon games have very high budgets. The problem is that you could give gayfrick a trillion dollars and they'd still frick it up because they're helmed by an out of touch boomer and a pathological coomer
If they just gave Ratchet his personality back I would buy these games. I’m sure there are a decent amount who feel the same.
I'm guessing then that the games that Sony releases on PC are the ones that incurred losses.
That would explain Demon's Souls
Wrong. None of the nu-God of War games have lost money and they are on PC. TLOU2 lost money and is not on PC. So again, your assumption is wrong.
Tlou2 made profit within a week.
I can't believe artists have to deal with this fricking cringe direction. Just tell them a general idea and trust them to make it happen. Unless they're some foreign diversity hires in which case you might as well just make the art yourself.
Rambling lefty morons can't even succinctly bullet point ideas let alone make memes.
>lefty
where? why are you seeing politics when it isn't there?
>Should feel like a set piece like Hyrule Castle
Wow. They really don't understand what people like about it at all
What do people like about it?
It's an actual dungeon
Is that fricking Wreck It Ralph?
I am wreck it Ralph
>Insomniac taking design cues from fricking BoTW and Disney instead of other more interesting shit
>Sony doesn't care.
This image perfectly captures everything wrong with the company, not just Insomniac. Holy frick.
Dimensions and time travel are a fricking cancer to any franchise.
Just release an official PC port of the PS2 games and frick off. I don't care about the new R&Cs, it's obvious they have no idea what made the OGs good in the first place.
people go on to do different things as they get older anon, being that vidya is more costly, insomniac is doing whomever's dream project for the wolverine game, rachet will return in the future if we are still alive by then
It felt like I was playing a Pixar game aimed towards 9 year olds. It looked pretty but the game play got stale quick.
if you sell 2.2 mil units at $60 each, isn't that way over $81 mil?
that headline is hot garbage
Printing phone copies isn't free
Yeah, if we assume that insomniac gets to keep all the money and that every single copy was sold at $60
you're assuming most of those 2 million sales were full price. this isn't a nintendo game. sony does deep sales with their 1st party titles
Its a bundle game and it goes on sale regularly on top of that. They didnt get 2million $60 sales.
Yeah if you don't pay your workers and have zero advertising budget. And don't sell it at stores that take a cut.
But they're owned by Sony, they're on Sony's payroll.
Anon you’re a genius you should start your own company.
Almost exclusively attributed to scalping that made it impossible to get a PS5 for about 2 years.
Thats crazy. I remember botw needing to sell 2 mil to break even, isn't this like an 8 hour game? Whats all that money for?
HR, ethics committees, project managers, etc
>Thats crazy. I remember botw needing to sell 2 mil to break even, isn't this like an 8 hour game? Whats all that money for?
Graphics!
Gotta pay that sweetbaby money
>It costed 621 million to use the XMEN IP
I can now see why 2K fired the guy who created Midnight Suns and the CEO of Firaxis when it flopped since it costed them almost 1 billion.
>sm2 budget 315 mily
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gotta pay those California taxes and wages.
Those pods are like 100k a year minimum.
>$550mil for Soiyderman 3
why? That's so moronic
>They expect Wolverine to sell as much as Spiderman
Dumb fricks. This ain't the 90's anymore.
>wolverine selling anywhere near spider-man
Yeah, good luck with that one. Disney tried their best to speed run Marvel into the ground, to the point where Spider-Man is the only thing it has left.
>Ganker told me those games flopped
Looks like they're all pretty healthy
>315 millions for Spider Man 2
>81 millions for R&C RA
okay, but can we talk about those fricking 50 millions USD for a PS5 remake of a PS4 game?
>50
39*
I thought the Miles game flopped? wtf
>Zurkon Jr
Please, let the unfunny meme that is Mr. Zurkon die already
>Zurkon Jr.
>Bobble Head
The Zurkon's are shit characters and I'm tired of pretending they weren't.
the Zurkon's are awesome, you're delusional
t.Nusoimniac employee
MR.ZURKON IS HERE TO SHILL
>no real writing
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEED TO HAVE IT PREPARED FOR THE CHINESE MARKET PLEASE GIVE US THE CHINESE MONEY
Looks like the Great Fox
Well, it is a great spaceship and it's shaped like a fox.
> The first of the unused Lombax designs they will be using is the buff one
I would have preferred them to use Spector. I'm not much of a fan of the villain being Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde but furry alien either.
I would've loved this back when Insomniac was still talented
>R&C flopped hard
Based, this shit should've died after the 2016 embracement
>it should’ve died after the best selling game in the series
>sales = quality
Whatever they've made back they lost it all anyway
>Verification not required
You telling me all the furry porn shilling didnt work?
Well shit, what happened Ganker?
it clearly worked since they are making a sequel and Rivet still in lol
In 2029, yeah That is if they are still standing after more comic slop.
>Azimuth
Can we please just let him be dead? A Crack in Time is retroactively ruined if he comes back.
What if it's an alternate Azimuth?
Yeah, I know, that'd be moronic, but Ratchet not bringing up Azimuth once in Rift is even more moronic.
Maybe he’s Rivet’s dad.
Didn't bring up Angela either once again...
No the line from Rivet doesn't count because that raises even more plot holes
>Azimuth gets relegated to a permanent bad guy
This is such a nasty way of writing a character who redeemed himself. A character this tragic shouldn't be getting beaten around like this. The frick is wrong with Insomniac?
nu-insomniac never understood ratchet
I think the idea is he gets corrupted by the girl scientist (top right) by dark matter. After you defeat/free him he probably turns into a good guy.
knowing how studio's write veteran characters with ptsd in modern media, I can guarantee you they'll shit all over his character even if he's ""controlled"".
>furry porn
they forgot people search this shit for free..... opsie
Turns out outside of small indie games sex doesn’t sell
Furgays don't buy games.
I would've bought it though
I just don't give a frick about rivet
The only furry artist that attached to Rivet is a troony (who sees rivet as a troony) who draws vore and extreme fat and weight gain.
Let that sink in
how....How do you know that?
I would have thought that an artist drawing a female character with variations of obesity would have been leaning heterosexual. Why the hell is it a troony? You sure they aren't larping?
They see and swear by Rivet beong trans.
Youd think so anon, but logic doesnt apply to these types.
don't care still gonna buy it
>trust me
you’re a nobody loser dipshit. no.
>make a woke grafix fireworks show with a movie budget, instead of a classic no frills good game like ps2 era
>fails to break even
Say it with me..
Maybe they should have given the lobax breasts. :^)
That actually would have helped. Sex sells and furries have a lot of disposable income. They could have still given Rivet more sexualized features without losing the family audience but unfortunately they took on some bad devs with agendas to drive home.
>Sex sells and furries have a lot of disposable income.
Not as much as pedophiles.
>In a game that also has furries
Anon are you moronic.
That design, and others, got censored.
problem here is that while furries have a disposable income, eventually they move onto the next waifu to beat their meat to and throw these games out when they aren't trendy anymore.
What you have leftover is a dated cash-in on sexuality trends for potential customers who will casually skip over it because they know better than to affiliate themselves with this shit.
That's a large chunk of your revenue gone because you couldn't control yourself when making your games.
>2.2 million sales
>fails to even break even
AAA shit was a mistake
Insomniac never recovered from the backlash R&C1 Ratchet suffered for being a character with actual growth instead of a cuddly doll
I never got the hate for the first Ratchet.
He does start out pretty obnoxious, so even with his growth, it is hard to like him overall.
I think regarding his long-term progression, Ratchet is at his best in Up Your Arsenal.
The problem is that people don't like dicks even if it's understandable, combine that with the fact that this was many kids first videogame and most will not like Ratchet because it's not just that moment, from that moment onward Ratchet will act antagonistic towards Clank unprompted until they take down Qwark and even after that Ratchet and Clank only really become friends at the very end of the game.
That being said, it wouldn't have made sense if Ratchet continued to be as abrasive as he was, mellowing him out was inevitable even if there was no backlash to him lashing out at Clank, it just means he now directs his bitterness at people that deserve it like Qwark, Nefarious and Vox.
problem is the people who hated Ratchet in 1 were secret Tendo's angry that the fuzzy mascot didn't act like a generic happy cartoon character like they wanted him to. Controversial opinion, but not every character should be like Mario. Its stifling and insulting.
Sure, it makes sense that people will be more inclined to like more personable and inoffensive characters but I believe how rough Ratchet's edges are are a big part of what makes both him and the story stand out.
Not only is Ratchet an out of his depth redneck that wants to play hero only when it's convenient to him, but it shows how corrupting the galaxy is and how that environment pushes people to be self-centered and self-serving, as it took Clank -who is important to note is someone pure and innocent that was basically a newborn and as such untainted by the setting- an entire game of trying and pushing over and over to try and break Ratchet's conditioning and unearth the good in him, and he almost didn't manage to.
I think it's a pretty good moral lesson to give to children, the importance of believing in people and not letting them become the worst version of themselves. Ratchet wouldn't have been able to overcome himself if he was alone.
Frick yeah, I miss that kind of character growth. It's not like I want the exact same thing every time but I do want to see characters challenging themselves and the audience traits and themes often dismissed as 'unmarketable'
Some people really didn't like how mad he got at Clank after Qwark screwed them over, felt he became too much of an abrasive butthole
I replayed the game recently and I don’t see how this is an issue. No young adult would get betrayed and then walk it off like it’s nothing, Ratchet being angry at everything around him only makes sense. He even realizes he’s acting irrational near the end of the third act and goes to actually save the galaxy
>game had a total budget of 81 mil
what in the BLUE frick, i would have expected a similar number for the likes of red dead 2
I suspect 80-120m is a weird optimized threshold for tax writeoffs, making it feel like a safe bet for out-of-touch execs even if they have no faith in the product.
It was way too expensive. 70 bucks for a 6-8 hour campaign which isn't super replayable.
>$81 million budget
>Sold 2.2 million units at 70 bucks a pop and somehow incurred a loss
Something dont add up with those figures boss
Not all 2.2M units are sold at full price moron
Snoy games are 50% off after like 3 months
Retailers and sony get a cut, moron. A console developer is lucky to get 50%.
It's almost as if they don't make every dollar on a sale...
Are we talking USD or no?
Here in Australia, RA sold for 120 AUD, so I fricking skipped it, it's hard enough to justify getting a PS5, let alone actually finding and purchasing one just so I can play 1 game.
Also don't forget that, at least in Australia, that a lot of places during the 2021 re-supply of the PS5 were selling Rift Apart at about 1/3 of its price (I.e. $40). It's how I got my copy when I bought my PS5.
It's their estimated lifetime sales, not current sales.
2.2 million people didnt buy this at $70.
Think of sales/bundles. Sony always inflated numbers with these and never hasd the profit to back it up.
but
but
the pooorn!!!
When you cash in on scalpers, you cant also cash in on games
The problem is not that it sold 2.2 million, those are good numbers for a niche 3D platformer. The problem is a 3D platformer costing near 100 million. I just don't understand where all the money is going to in all these 100+ million dollar games.
Probably a combination of the game itself (it does look very good, though maybe not 80 mil good) and marketing
New tech cost money to develop, I’m sure Sony gained some new tools from the development.
>t. I worked on MCU movies
This guy gets it.
Diversity hires and consultants, several layers of useless management, PR and marketing...
Look at Nintendo : you shouldn't need to burn 100M to produce one wholesome 3D platformer, it's an aberration. Modern western devs are scaled to produce gigantic AAA GaaS slops, but when they try to make anything outisde that window, it ends up costing way more money that what the game bring in precisely *because* they are too big.
The word "Wholesome" and Ratchet and Clank series should be mutually exclusive.
how about the colossal armies of staff they employ?
shit's ridiculous.
Developing software costs money. Who knew?
>look at nintendo, who spend little money making 7th gen games in 2023 and reuse entire games to make sequels
And yet they're mogging everyone.
As a few anons have pointed out, Nintendo have both cultivated an image of fun first, everything else second and they also have a rabid fanbase that will only consume Nintendo products. Even people like me who don’t particularly care for them anymore will still take a peek at what they’re doing sometimes when every other dev is flailing around like a group of transvestite monkeys who care about everything else but making a fun game.
I remember an anon in another thread pointing out that Nintendo basically made themselves a part of normal human culture over a few decades.
You literally cannot compete against that. No matter how many shiny things you throw. You would need either time or something that is on the level of mario that is enough to cause a major cultural shift within the company and among customers.
That’s actually not a bad way of putting it and it is true when you look at Nintendo like that. The last time I bought a Nintendo console was the WiiU in 2013 so my indifference to them now is because I know I got burned by them once they re-released almost everything on the Switch, but it does make for an interesting thought that Nintendo could be the last ones standing if another industry crash occurs.
50m would make sense given the scope. Maybe it just went a year or two past the deadline?
Insomniac has 401 employees, it's unlikely all of those worked on Ratchet but that's a lot of salaries that need paying + outside contractors
At least 30-40% of it is going into marketing the game. You have companies like Tesla that are worth $800Bn that have done next to no marketing and then you have companies like Insomniac that need to spend $30-40M in marketing per game in order to make $5-10M in profit after dev costs. Make that make sense.
>81 million budget
H O W
O
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so this is how Sony is gonna get that money back, huh?
Good. Games like Call of Duty and GTA6 should be allowed to go for $100 for the base game. It would be hilarious.
Make it $500
>here's your 100 dollarido walking swim, cutscenes galore, you get to ride bikes, play as a deaf girl, and do shitty mini games and pointless fetch filler quests for 12 hours
The absolute state
>whoops, you stepped out of the room while the mandatory mcdonalds ad was playing, we're revoking your game
>no refunds :*~~)
There's literally 0
ZERO
reason to purchase AAA games.
And you're actually moronic if you purchase them at launch.
Its been just kinda sad to not even have a hint of anticipation for AAA games now. Its just so weird having this empty feeling when I should be happy I've been freed from CONSUME EVERYTHING.
But this anon is right. This shit should be ignored until its worth the price its actually suppose to be at.
Do they mean the document also showing how much profit wolverine and spiderman 3 made in 2024 and 2026?
Fricking moronic journalist homosexuals.
shame, i actually liked this game.
i guess i'm partly to blame because i pirated it
Maybe making Rivet cuter and more female would have helped.
Sucks for them. They'll never learn though.
Ratchet and Clank hasn't actually been relevant since the original 3 games, everything after that was attempting to cash in on a "well known franchise." Up Your Arsenal is a great fricking game, though - if you haven't played it and somehow have access to it, you should really give it a shot. Its a pure fun action game with lots of weapon and stage variety, a real classic of the era
>Up Your Arsenal is a great fricking game, though
It's the worst of the PS2 games.
Don't care, it was my favorite.
Don't care, it was the worst.
No Snivelak makes it better than Commando by default
Snivelak is a 10/10 level that unfortunately ends with a 0/10 boss fight. I'd still rather fight that giant robot than do all those goddamn hacker puzzles in UYA.
Jak and Sly games were better.
Objectively wrong
I love all 3 series, but I can say that Ratchet by design was an easier series to stay around due to its nature, where Jak and Sly were more unique over all, but only so much you could do with them as series
Still sad Jak never got like a full on grand final game, and instead we ended on The Lost Frontiers as the final game, leaving the series on a wet fart, and Sly had an ending with 3, but as of Thieves in Time the series ruined its own ending and ended on a cliffhanger
Ratchet really could have ended with Into the Nexus, just cut the scene of Clank taking the dimensionator, since it really doesn't mesh well with the game's ending of Ratchet moving on and being happy where he is anyways
Maybe next time make a game about Ratchet and Clank and not do this meme.
>A Feminist fought to not give the female lemure boobs
>Sold badly
Go woke, get broke
It's a Ratchet & Clank game ffs, why did they need $81 million to make it?
Diversity hires. Not even once.
Think I'll replay the ps2 games to remember when Insomniac employed men who wanted to make video games and not propaganda
Remember the time that Sam Maggs tried to pass off Rivet as a lesbian because she was seething at all the people saying they wanted to frick her? I remember.
Wait what happened?
Sam Maggs, the nutball who claimed she was raped in a multiplayer game, was involved in the production of the last Ratchet and Clank. She was also involved in the design process for Rivet, and took credit for being the one to push Rivet as less feminine, more muscular than Ratchet, and reducing her breast size. The lesbian thing is new to me thoughever. Never heard that one.
Is this the same Sam Maggs who spent an entire Star Wars novel saying how horny she was for Merrin?
If no one cared about Overwatch girls being lesbians, no one would've cared about Rivet being a Dyke.
Smut makers don't care about canon. Straight characters become gay in rule34, and vice versa. It's all about the coom
It's a children's game.
Every game is a children's game.
>What about-
Yes, even that one.
I have no mouth but I must scream is not a children's game, but Zelda is, there should be no homosexuality in Zelda, only heterosexuality is allowed on condition that it is healthy.
As much as I hate the social political sensationalism on Ganker over women in video games, I have to say Maggs is one of the least likable people I've witnessed in any industry
Remember, even other women on the team were uncomfortable around her after the "LOMBAX breasts" fiasco
>Remember, even other women on the team were uncomfortable around her after the "LOMBAX breasts" fiasco
What happened again?
She thought Rivet's boobs were too big and shouted "LOMBAX breasts" to have it her way
A female Insomniac dev told her on Twitter that the other women felt uncomfortable during this
Wew lad
I thought it might have had something to do with how some of the devs were glad in having a hand in many people's "furry awakening" because of Rivet.
remember when we didn't suffer fools, going on and on in thread after thread about useless people who are clearly just being moronic on purpose for attention for years? I remember
100 mil for an R&C game is moronic. The game does not need to be top-of-the-line graphics, it just needs to adhere to the aesthetics the previous games established. Deadlocked was built on a lower budget for a quick cash grab while R&C was still fresh, and that game still looks good. Cut out the fur physics and all that shit.
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>make children's game with trannies in it
>it flops spectacularly
lol
how exactly is this "endangering" people?
He's probably talking about job security, but he's being a melodramatic gay about it.
It shows that Insomniac is just a mahvel slophouse now and forever
Personal information of employees was also leaked.
nobody cares about the devs or their lives
why do these morons always go for "think of the devs"
It's basic virtue signalling, duh.
They thrive off the shit.
yea what's dangerous about their passports being leaked
Literally violence upon women.
OH NO, NOT THE TEAM MEMBER DATA
imagine failing to sell furry shit
>throwing all that money into a glorified SSD showcase
A serious question, what goes through these executives' minds? Why are they so insistent that games get stupidly large budgets? It's like they're setting them up to fail so they can get a tax write-off or something.
Call of duty was funding and keeping afloat all the trash Sony has been pushing the past few years, this is why they are losing their mind over xbot buying actiblizzard, sony exclusives aren't profitable.
bump
oh shit wrong leaks, my bad
well looks like i have a reason to not use systemd anymore
Anything that was console exclusive, especially a niche title, is going to have an even harder time. The smart thing would have been long tail sales and a concurrent PC release.
...though I admit I'm annoyed as frick that the late PC release came for this fricking thing instead of Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut . I'm so fricking tired of exclusives , timed or otherwise and then crying and b***hing that they didn't sell enough.
Why do you guys focus so much on things you don’t like? What a miserable existence.
My favorite things aren't immune to criticism, Ratchet is cool, what Insomniac has been doing with Ratchet ever since 2007 has not been cool.
they could have saved a lot of time and money by yeeting the toxic staff immediately, and shipping a game complete with lombax tiddies
instead they entertain the usual suspects and the game itself becomes secondary to their internal politics
many such cases
I only know like the occasional furry who likes this shit series.
I know way, way more people who like spyro.
Good. Woke girlboss shits belong in the gutter
Playstation users do not buy 1st party or exclusive software.
Should've given Rivet boobs.
R&C never had any cultural impact and it’s bizarre how the franchise keeps getting new entries. Who has ever met a Ratchet and Clank fan? I’ve known more PIKMIN fans and that’s a very niche series.
But how? At 60 dollars that’s 132 million, that’s a 51 million profit
Is this israeli accounting
%50 went to the stores who sold the game.
>implying every copies sold were 60$
>implying the studio gets all the profit
There are contractual shares, bro. That’s basic information. And to add further informations. That means they’re in debt. No matter how many copies of spider man were sold, that profit has nothing to do with the loss of profit with Ratchet and Clank. It’s like a fast food restaurant, they take off items because they don’t sell well. Other items on the menu that are popular doesn’t save other items that don’t sell well. If insomniac plans to return to ratchet and clank, they will still need to pay off the debt, in addition to the new the game that will release
>Sam Maggs makes a concerted effort to desexualize Rivet
>Still gets a massive amount of porn of her.
It could have been better, It could have been a LOT better.
this just confirms zoomers don't care for snoys 1st party titles or traditional games in general. all they care about are experiences like fortnite, genshin, roblox and the usual cod/fifa shit. this kinda makes me puzzled how can nintendo still be so successful with its old ass IPs. people still buy mario but nobody cared to buy new crash bandicoot game or in this case ratchet.
Mario panders to children
Children grows up and become fans of them which helps keep their legacy around.
When you stop pandering to children like Sony does, there's less fans to care about your games.
yeah, great job in killing japan studio and ape escape.
most of the younger generation now have absolutely no idea how to mature themselves correctly and are in a permanent stasis of being in their childhoods because every avenue to help them grow properly has been taken off of them without them getting a say.
Nintendo and Mario being marketed as heavily as it has is a result of this. The markets know this. Its why Sony is trying so hard to pander to them with this junk. They are perfectly aware that Nintendo panders to people with this mentality because its on the rise.
>snoy with no self awareness
Zoomer here. I started playing old games this year like oscarina of time, indie on steam and bought a steam deck to discover more games as I started hating esport titles. ALL my friends play CoD or esport titles such as valorant, lol, fortnite, cs. Very rarely they'll play a soulslike game but that's all. That's what we grew up on, my first game was bf3 on PS3.
>I started playing old games this year
there's still hope for you
do zoomers even play older PlayStation games? its always Nintendo or generic third-party games they seem to talk about, but almost never anything from older Sony for some reason.
Sony didn't cultivate IP strength, because the only appeal of their consoles were being the dominant platform for third parties when Nintendo kept putting out shitty consoles nobody wanted to develop for until the Switch. That's because Sony aren't original and only relied on what else the industry was doing at the time. It's why the PS3 was a flop initially because the architecture of their consoles got progressively worse and because they had no good original content to launch their system with it crashed and burned, only getting exposure later the same reason the PSX/PS2 got exposure: The alternative console options were not worth it
I'm pretty sure the PS3 was a huge flop initially mainly because a massive economic crash forced devs out of work and had to move to Xbox because they couldn't afford the time to understand the console's power structure, as well as Japan having a hard time transitioning to HD due to the excessive work needed to streamline their workflow.
>because the only appeal of their consoles were being the dominant platform for third parties
I thought the main appeal of their consoles was the DVD player for PS2 and Bluray afterwards
>Sony didn't cultivate IP strength,
THIS
I've never seen R&C toys, Saturday morning cartoon adventures, or even a breakfast cereal tie-in. Even the Halo series appeared periodically with a Mountain Dew tie-in and look where that is now.
No thanks, Vox.
Not the anon you responded to, but we do. friends and I were born in 1996 and we have been playing games we didn’t get a chance to play in the 2000s when we were kids / teens and didn’t have the disposable income we do now. Been pretty fun playing through older games like the first few R&Cs, Prince of Persia, original God of War, DMC, etc. as part of our Friday night games because we’ve all been getting burned a lot by modern games.
That sounds like a dream. Glad you guys are having fun, I also only started playing Ratchet & Clank and Sly Cooper recently and it was quite the discovery
>Sly Cooper
That one is next on our list once we’ve finished DMC2 (which I’ll admit is a bit of a slog) and Super Mario 3D World on my old WiiU. My friends insist we 100% the latter including all Miiverse stickers. Given how we keep murdering each other and they don’t know about Rosalina and Champion’s Road, I think we’re still a few months away from that at least.
Well, Ratchet was never as popular as Mario. I bet Mario Sunshine sold more than all the PS2 Ratchets. Also, Sony has different consumers than Nintendo. People check out a franchise, then move on to other stuff. Nintendo fans are really dedicated to their franchises. There's lots of people who don't play any RPGs but Pokemon, no platformers but Mario, etc.
In my twenty years of existence, I've never once seen an advertisement for a Ratchet and Clank game, but I have seen reviews from a certain review show that somehow reinforce the idea that Ratchet and Clank exist.
How the frick did it cost 80 mil? kek
50% of media budgets go to giving blacks and women something to do so the company can brag how many blacks and women they employ. Millions are spent on bullshit jobs like HR teams and Brand managers who post sassy tweets all day. All these positions are occupied by women and trannies.
Maybe they should fire some dead weight in the studio???
And now insomniac knows to never let that b***h near a script again. Because for the most part, everyone loves the gameplay but hated the writing.
Why would that game have a budget that high? Game doesn't even stand out. It looks like a ps3 game.
Tools of Destruction is a PS3 game and looks way more impressive. Someone has a webm showing off the differences between the physics engine on both games and its crazy considering ToD ran on a machine with less than 1GB of RAM. Crazy shit.
This kind of stuff only sells on Nintendo consoles nowadays.
>make goyslop (Spiderman, RnC PS4) and it sells
>make a decent game (rift apart) and it flops
Just kill this franchise already and invest in a new IP
It's clear that ACiT was the last Ratchet game they actually gave a shit about from start to finish
>add female character for the sake of diversity and inclusivity
>still nobody bought it
its all incels fault once again
Videogames are becoming movies at this point. The best-selling shit is cinematic slop like GoW, TLOU, or Spider-Man. That's the mainstream. Games like R&C - actually fun, colorful adventures that prioritise gameplay, are becoming more and more of a niche, because Western audiences are incapable of stomaching anything that's not as realistic as humanly possible, be it video games or cartoons, which also always show weak box office performance compared to movies.
There are two silver linings here - the Asian market, that prefers colorful and fun vidya (albeit they love gachas too much), and indies, who now have the tools to create games they want without corporate interference. The next R&C will be an indie game.
>because Western audiences are incapable of stomaching anything that's not as realistic as humanly possible
I thought it was because mass appeal means hyper casualizing games to the point that the gameplay itself is starting to be removed outright.
So we are now stuck in a future of only Marvel games/capeshit from insomniac now... Goddamn frick this gay earth.
The fricking problem with the game was turning it into a Pixar movie and putting moral dilemmas and shit that doesn't matter and forcing Rivet's gameplay
I've never played R&C before (hope to play the PS2 games someday) but it would be nice if those recent games were quite innovative in design like how Mario and Zelda does it. When you like at 3D mainline Mario games, 64 to Odyssey, no game "feels" the same despite basing on the same formula established back in '96. All have distinctive level design/structure, unique mechanics, and a different setting each time to set themselves apart from each other. When you look at Rift Apart it's not a bad game by any means especially if you're looking for that type of itch in gaming yet it looks no more different than the PS2 titles it claims to move away from. I'm not asking for open world shit neither but more experimentation in how you interact with levels and implementing ambitious level layouts that makes them "feel" like you're playing an open world akin to Odyssey. It's hilarious to see in the design document the person who wrote it asking for BOTW Hyrule level kind to be added in the game and the game itself ends up being too samey or not achieving the highs of the PS2 games under restrictive hardware limitations. The Kirby Star Allies of Ratchet games as that how I felt with that game before Forgotten Land washed down my throat with joy.
A Crack in Time was the last good R&C game. They should've ended the series afterwards
>sunset overdrive made more money than the latest ratchet
what the frick
Having this big budget for this franchise was just a try and revealed to be a failure. Expect no more games like this from Sony and just more literal marvel movies.
>make troony space rat
>game flops
no wonder we haven't gotten a big titty mod for rivet yet, nobody fricking plays this shit
>70 million/ 22% cost increase
>same break-even point in units
Doesn't look like those numbers included digital sales - and that includes the PC port.
To be fair, the updated figures is 2.72 million from and that was from Feb 2022. For the game to break even, it would need to sell nearly 300k more copies from Feb 2022 to now. I'm pretty sure that's been easily accomplished. This is not including PC sales. You are right that it's still miniscule compared to Marvelslop and capeshit. The writer of that tweet and article are intentionally misleading, don't fall for modern journalism with its sensationalist headlines.
I'm surprised the PC port didn't help the sales more.
Not really a lot of 3d platformers on pc
You can't even tell how many copies are on pc or on ps5
steamspy said 235k copy on pc
Snoy don't buy exclusive and then they cry their favorite game studio japan studio is shutting down
what's the best ratchet and clank game after the ps2 ones?
i never had a ps3 so i didn't get to play those ones. but i can play them on rpcs3 now.
Crack in Time
ACiT is the most popular to be sure but I personally found the weapons in Tools of Destruction more enjoyable. Though that may be because of my heavy bias towards drones, since I loved the visibomb and spiderbots and here you get an RC helicopter.
They also added a new melee weapon for Ratchet that had an interesting moveset but further cemented the omniwrench as an useless stick.
That explains the PC port
and release it the same month as BG3?
>rift apart sold like shit
Good, maybe there's still some hope left for the current gen.
I got it for free and didn't finish it
It's outdated and boring gameplay
Will they ever address the Angela situation? The way they keep pretending she doesn't exist while also continuing to reference her is plain odd.
>even xitter lemmings think it's bad that the game looks like nu-gow/uncharted
>even calling out the moronic exclusivity contract's sales quotas that sony is practically killing itself to meet and it can't even meet those quotas without pc sales
When does the industry finally crash, if a braindead third-world snoy normalgay can tell there's something gravely wrong with present-day game development then we have no hope
I fricking hate the zoomers that hopped onto PlayStation with PS4
>rachet & clank
>81 million
how in the frick did they spend THAT much on a fricking ps2 era game?
da powa of the Ass Ass Dee anon
And here I thought the whole point of that was to make games easier to develop since it allegedly doubles as extra ram.
Insomniac should just rebrand themselves as Marvel Games or some shit, then
>They have no plans except Marvel/Ratchet until 2040 at earliest.
good,this game was a piece of shit and not a ratchet and clank game
If it cost them 81 million to make a bog standard platformer game, they are doing something incredibly wrong.
If the game was $70, and sold 2.2 million, isn't that a gross profit of $154 million before marketing/taxes? Where's the loss? Or do video game sales have to be calculated like movie sales, where it needs to make back 3x what the budget was?
>$81 million budget
You could have made an entire animated movie from that.
I'll probably get it eventually but at that point Ratchet will be dead and buried.
Sunset Overdrive 2 was canceled in favor of Spider-Man (i20 ended up being SM). This doc is from 2016, so SO2 would've already been in dev for a few months. They estimated SO2 would've cost ~$60m.
Why are all these games so fricking expensive to make? What are they spending the money on, fancy graphics? How do you spend that much money on a game for not that many people to give a frick about it?
if only there was some sort of list of every person who worked on the game and what their role was
60 mil of it is market research to make sure no one except white males are offended.
bullshit jobs forced by company policies
actual incompetence, meaning you need to outsource shit and spend more time and effort to try to tie the assets together
it's also a game on a new platform, which was supposed to highlight the new technologies, meaning you need to train the staff
Because they throw a shitload of people at projects.
Pic rel is just for the remastered version of Spider-Man btw. $36m in salaries and bonuses to 331 people just to remaster a game.
>81 million dollars for this
Worth IMO
>AI fanart
that's not from the game though
Honestly it's one of the best looking game's I've played this gen. Most other games seem blurred with their effects and aa but Rift Apart still looks really crisp
most games apply their sharpness as a post filter (amd cas for example) but ratchet applys its sharpening to its TAA pass so it looks really sharp compared to all new games. dragons dogma 2 by comparison looks blurry as hell from its TAA and no sharpening.
I volunteer to be Insomniac's Budget Manager (TM). They send one of their coffee addicted interns to bring me some middle school level PowerPoint about why Rachet and Clank needs to be 200 billion dollars and I tell them that it's moronic and give them a reasonable budget and they pay me whatever money I just saved them.
>Exclusive for console with limited supply on release
>Delayed game for PC, losing traction with a huge portion of non-normie gamers
>Insert woke dogma, turning off sizable main demographic
>Mid story, way too short for a high budget game
>PC port has huge issues with Dimensional aspects of game, goes the route of console elitism
The game isn't that bad, just another case of corporate morons with glorified associates degrees.
So the xmen multiplayer game is just avengers 3.0?
Avengers
Suicide squad
Now xmen
Not surprised. I completely ignored it due to how interested furries are in it.
>sony
>playstation
>insoyniac
>fur shit
No wonder studios are hemorrhaging staff when it costs that much to make shit.
Hopefully we'll get some actual talent that enjoy making the games they like in a few years
Where the frick so I find the leaks? Torrent magnet?
Can someone give me a rundown on the insomniac leak thing?
>Ransomware got their hands on over 1.5 terabytes of data.
>Blackmailed Sony for money or they'll release the data to the public
>Sony said no, (good move actually)
Now we are here.
>Sony said no, (good move actually)
This applies to almost every company on the planet. We’ve been hit with a few of these in Australia over the past few years (notably Medibank and Optus), and the advice from ASIS and ASIO to them and everyone else is never capitulate to their demands.
>dude we'll totally not release your shit if you pay us
I didn't fall for this as an 8 year old getting a virus, I'm curious if any company actually did so tho
2 people have bought data leaks from this group (out of 71 leaks), don't know if it was the original people who were hacked or a 3rd party who wanted the data. The hackers have so far kept their word and haven't publicly released any sold data.
Her hero
Its funny how people were pairing these two when Ratchet is already spoken for, so its not going to happen
You mean zoomers who never touched the franchise let alone a PS2 or PS3?
Yep
Too bad she's not in the next game but Rivet is, get fricked talgay
>Central hub ship: be big enough to support two Lombaxes and two Robots
It’s truly over Talgays. It’s time to enjoy the suifuel.
Ratchet is taken and Rivet is a modern strong independent woman
Its not going to happen
Plus Rivet is canonically a lesbian.
give it up Maggs you ugly Dyke, you lost
>A Predator Homage handshake of friendship.
Yeah she's totally straight and attracted to Ratchet.
>Yeah she's totally straight and attracted to Ratchet.
indeed she is, keep seething Maggs
I see those two spendng lots of time together according to those leaks. Tal is nowhere to be seen since ItN or the comics. She’s busy being the girl-boss as the head of the Polaris Defense Force. Truly a “girl in respectable position of power.” The two miniscule cameos in Rift apart don’t count.
Nice try Sam, see
literal bots
Canonically a lesbian.
im so happy Ratchet and Rivet are gonna be adventuring together next game you have no idea, i just can't get enough of them
Didn't the lombax breasts femaleperson make her a canon lesbo
She was trying to force it but got told to frick off
Maggs lost
She left the company half-way through production and her replacement ended up re-writing the entire story, so everything she says is pure fanfiction at this point
Sam Maggs is no longer working with Insomniac and she only made that statement after she was long gone lol what she says has no bearing on the games at all
No she was removed as a writer and her work was redone. She was only credited under “special thanks” in the after-credits. In the PC port, even that got removed so there’s absolutely no mention of her in the PC version. She even got called out by another employee for lying about coming up with the name Rivet.
>Sam Maggs
>Alanah Pearce
why do these b***hes always lie so much?
they always say easily disprovable shit on twitter
So how many time canonically will they frick on this road trip? Will Rivet give Ratchet some road head? If I was stuck in an RV with the first female of my kind I’ve met (minus Angela since she is kinda retconned) and I’m the first male she’s ever met, we’d be doing unspeakable things together nonstop.
considering they have a ship of their own now they'll probably do nothing but frick like rabbits off-screen
what is she gonna do to him?
she's gonna make him start the lombax babymaking protocol
so hekkin cute! its just like my furry VN! totally a good use of Sony's funding!
Help repopulate the Lombaxes and prove Sam Maggs is wrong.
based
cringe
what gay fricking cringe
>even more of a narcissist than I thought
Gotta love the attention prostitutes.
what is it with twitties and Randomly Capitalizing Words in their sentences?
Why is this written like she's afraid of this b***h
Rift Apart sucked to be fair.
>release the game on dead as frick console
>take a century to do a PC port, by the time it's ported nobody wants to give money to snoy
>lie out of your ass about le hecking ssd
>don't kick all the Magg's pozz from the game
>somehow waste $81M on diversity hires when this game could definitely be done exactly the same for quarter of the budget
>now will forever make goyslop
wow who could have seen this unexpected turn of events
APOLOGIZE
didnt the leak confirmed that this game flopped hard?
like it sold 2m copies when it needed 3 to break even?
See
The screenshot, picrel, that everyone passed around showing a -10 percent loss was part of a slide that was meant tk show predictions for future games dated around the release of Miles Morales. They were accounting for the PS5 and scalper issues so they low balled their numbers. It’s just that our media is shittier than the games industry, so they spin the facts. The latest sales numbers came out in feb 2022 showing over 2.7 mill in sales. This is not counting sales from then to now + pc port.
How does a 3D platformer cost $81 million dollars to make? Shit's basically been figured out since the PS2 era, even if most of the costs went into hiring artists for the graphics it still shouldn't be so high.
They could've made 8 San Andreases with that money
There were a ton of games they could've made for that money. It just doesn't make sense though because that's the same amount of money it cost to make Witcher 3, Gran Turismo 5 even. The fact that games are costing this much money to make really demonstrates how unsustainable AAA productions really are.
And they still firmly believe gamers won't get super hero fatigue after Avengers flopped and shuttered a studio and every single movie except Guardians 3 flopping
>up your arsenal
>going commando
>tools of destruction
>quest for booty
>full frontal assault
all loaded with innuendo and toxic masculinity. fun as frick
>rift apart
???
Ripped a fart
scat is weak shit
They dropped innuendos a long time ago
>all loaded with innuendo
Probably why nobody remembers Ratchet & Clank, apart from the funny names.
people omitted Ratchet from memory because the amazing """Movie""" killed the franchise.
Didn't the leak say they were making "RCE"
RCE is Ratchet & Clank: Eternal, which was the beta name for Rift Apart.
>Ratchet and Clank came out during covid times
>During the time where the PS5 was hard to find
>After basically REFUSING to budge on making Ratchet and Clank into boring empty shells of their former selves
>After gutting out any personality that can be had with the music
>After that embarrassment on Twitter over lombax tiddies not being allowed
>HURRR WHY DIDN'T GET THE SAME SELLL?????
Is that the game that also faked instant loading screens which turned out to be bullshit
Small breasts were Maggs biggest mistake, they only make Rivet hotter
Titgays are moronic
Source?
oh man i can add this to the list now
i hope it was worth it
I really want to know what they considered ""oversexualised"" when she was blatant coomerbait from the moment she appeared onscreen. her fake "uwu" shit gets grating real quick too.
>try to spin that Rivet wasn't intended to be sexualised when its blatantly obvious that she is
>write Angela out of the series because "muh coomerbait" when she is probably the least sexual thing in the franchise.
what the hell is their problem.
>try to spin that Rivet wasn't intended to be sexualised when its blatantly obvious that she is
a gay on the dev team fought realy hard to nerf her even more
worst of both worlds. no surprise the company is seen as a joke these days.
They probably went all in to make an impressive tech demo to get the PS5 off the ground and weren't concerned about making a profit. They just needed the PS5 to look powerful.
any torrent for the leak?
I would buy it if they hadn’t made Ratchet shit as a character for like 15 years already at this point.
>significantly increased development costs compared to the first few games
>come out at a net loss
hmm...
Gotta love seeing commies struggle with capitalism. Keep trying to make games based off your political agenda, idiots.
im a big ratchet and clank fan and i haven't played the new one because it looks like gay shit, like the last one and the ps3 ones
it was bad
Some sales numbers for the older games.
Costs and profits of older games.
no fricking way sunset overdrive only made $567 LOL
So the PS4 game DIDNT sell as good as the PS2 titles. Am I understanding that correctly?
>size matters was the best selling title at the time
What the frick?
The whole 'PSP died because of piracy' was a giant meme, software sales were really good for PSP games.
God, there is so much fricking financial info in here. I pity them.
Is there any game code from the ps1/ps2 days?
or is it all new shit
Nope, only code for Wolverine, SM2 and a bit of stuff from SM1.
I remember the hacker or whoever was showcasing a file of SM3 prototype. It is true that we could see some material of SM3.
They only just started concept and R&D for SM3.
>Digest player feedback
Really? From the company that went "Frick you I don't care if you didn't like the MJ sections we're keeping them frick you I don't care"?
Insomniac are such homosexuals now it's unreal
>Cindy Moon
>Goblin Army Faction
Known but still juicy info. Considering the Venom doc implied Spider-Heros being playable, does that mean Venom and Cindy is more or less gonna be working together to fence off against the carnage infested boroughs. I could see that happening since they're going with the lethal protector this time. Would be nice if we can see more on that Venom doc though.
I've never worked at a large company and never will. Why the frick did company servers have copies of employee passports?
I've never worked at one either but If I had to guess maybe some of the fly so often they just have someone in the office book their shit?
Fastest way to prove you're not an illegal immigrant
Sad to see what has become of Ratchet and Clank. Shitty games that only get talked about by porn addicts simping for Miles Morales: The Lombax. Genuinely hope Insomniac gets shut down.
Don't worry anon, you'll find a lombax to love.
But seriously, all the mainline games are blast to playthrough, what did you hate?
>frick up once
>get sent to the marvel mines for 15 years
Brutal.
after the marvel hype train has died. This is a punishment nobody deserves
Their decision to turn the disgusting dude character into a child-friendly marketable do-gooder still baffles me to this day. They'd make more money if they made the character like just a guy and didn't dump their entire budget into a single game
THE POWER OF THE SSD
It was an okay game, but the whole "This could only be done on PS5!" was a huge bullshit. The whole rift thing was basically Portals from Portals, but with less uses and not dynamic. So they programmed doors.
I honestly don't give a frick since they do games aimed at consoles, and I use a PC mostly, so I don't care what happens to them
You know they port games to PC, right?
Those ports fricking suck, and it's clearly created for gamepad use, so meh
You also know that PC also has games made for gamepads? Most of early games on PC expected players to have a gamepad or joystick.
Keyboard is not optimal for all type of games.
I have a PS5. I grew up on the PS2 trilogy. I could tell outside of Rivet the game was a piece of shit.
Ratchet and Clank strongly parallels Crash Bandicoot in that they're Sony origin IPs with an original trilogy of great and successful games, and then after that not a single person has known what to do with them or how to create the same edgy vibe with them.
Rivet was always sign that the game was going to fail, but she was merely a symptom of the problem.
Before the Sony buyout, they were in bad shape. Sunset Overdrive failed to generate royalties and Fuse was a total bust. Now they have a near-guaranteed stream of funding from Sony to keep the studio alive, they have a steady flow of games to keep their staff employed, and their X-Men game is going to line up with the upcoming movie to help generate even more money for the studio so they can continue to make pet projects like Ratchet and Clank even if it doesn't always break even. Not a lot of studios get those type of second chances. Especially after they get bought out. Look at all the studios Microsoft has bought and none of them have produced any games since then. Mary Jane may look like a horse but she sold a lot of games.
Insomniac make propaganda now, of course they will always receive financial support