>invests in linux. >builds portable console based on linux

>invests in linux
>builds portable console based on linux
whats his endgame?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stopping microsoft from becoming the only store for PC.
    Microsoft is very, very, very jealous of android and they want to turn windows into android.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Microsoft is very, very, very jealous of android and they want to turn windows into android.
      Why?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because they'd get 30% off every single software sale and microtransaction on Windows if they controlled the software distribution through their store.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I legitimately don't know any other Android storefronts other than Google Play. I don't think APKPure counts because it just rips from other places and you can't even d microtransactions though it afaik. I don't think FDroid is a storefront either.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Me neither, but at the same time I'm not what you'd call an "Android power user". Maybe there are other storefronts available.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Me neither, but at the same time I'm not what you'd call an "Android power user". Maybe there are other storefronts available.

            Fdroid but I run grapheneOs I'm not a normal user

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Does Fdroid actually sell anything? I have it installed, but afaik they don't actually sell anything, which is why I said "I don't think it's a storefront".

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can download app that have premium features. They might take a cut but they don't sell anything. Its more of a store that has apps that align with its values ie no crazy tracking the user

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I love F-Droid so much. It's so cool to actually look forward for updates and seeing more niche apps slowly improve through raw passion and autism.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                check out NeoStore
                better F-Droid client than the official one

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              whats the difference between this and lineageOS?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta, but graphene is about security and only supports few models
                lineage is more google-free replacement for android (afaik)

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why can't these c**ts be happy with the billions of dollars they already make. I hate corporate greed.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Investors always want more and demand more

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because as a publicly traded corporation they have a legal responsibility to deliver results to the stakeholders. If they fail to do so, they can be sued for it.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Disney told investors to frick off so idk about that one bud. They lost over a billion dollars. Only thing to come out of it is a hostile takeover that is in the works

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Disney has been sued by investors.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Which may very well be why they will ultimately sell off or spin off the consumer-facing portions of the business to some other entity and allow them to fail.
              Xbox, Windows Home, win32 compatibility, DirectX, all of these are drains on their bottom line and it isn't clear how they will turn it around.

              A future even more profitable version of Microsoft will probably offer hosted virtualized legacy compatibility solutions running remotely in a datacenter as a subscription service to their paying customers.
              There have almost certainly been discussions within Microsoft about why they spend billions maintaining their legacy compatibility layer, when it doesn't deliver any better results than Wine, or the NT kernel when it is far behind the Linux kernel in every performance metric.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Keeping his business model viable long-term. Valve essentially took the business plan that Microsoft had and implemented it first, since they weren't restricted to console gens or Windows versions.

        They want to be the middle-men for everything.

        Because they'd get 30% off every single software sale and microtransaction on Windows if they controlled the software distribution through their store.

        >30%
        They'd be able to charge any percentage they wanted.

        He saw a market opportunity in Linux and took it. It paid off, Gaben has insane prominence in the Linux space now.
        I'll give it a few years before Linuxgays turn on him though. He basically proved once again that you need a financially strong, coordinated backing to make a major leap like this and it takes away from the Linux fantasy that the big bad ebil corporations can be taken down by random fat morons on their spare time.

        The monolithic nature of Steam is kind of terrible, especially since it's Chromium webshit.

        >He basically proved once again that you need a financially strong, coordinated backing to make a major leap like this and it takes away from the Linux fantasy that the big bad ebil corporations can be taken down by random fat morons on their spare time.
        You're out of the loop anon. Nothing in open source world is being made without big corpo behind the development now. Stallman lost the battle long ago.

        As long as the big corpo doesn't subvert it into a system of mutual sabotage and market conspiracy it's fine. FOSS was always going to move forward whenever some corporation needed a tool to do a job and customized and extended something that necessitated them contributing back to the project, that's the big advantage of GPL shit.

        So to understand that it is important to know how Microsoft does business and enforces their dominance within the desktop niche. In the old days, Microsoft would just straight up tell OEMs they could only ship Windows on their hardware, but that obviously got them in trouble with anti-trust regulators. Around the time the Steam Machines were on the market Microsoft had hit on a new scheme where they used patent licenses to essentially force OEMs to only ship Windows (which bundled the license), or to pay more money for a stand-alone patent when they shipped something else.
        Valve obviously sees this as a major conflict of interest because it drives up the cost of PC gaming, and allows Microsoft to position the walled garden Xbox ecosystem as a more affordable point of entry. With the concern over the fact that Microsoft straight up told Gaben to his face that their plan was to ultimately make Steam no longer function by bringing the walled garden to Windows, Valve needed to get Steam moving outside of Microsoft's threatened walled garden.

        It seems like the intent with Steam Machines was to try to find a loophole in that OEM license, where a system hooked up to a TV and using a Gamepad for input might not fall afoul of the license terms, but Microsoft pressured companies like Dell whether they really wanted to try that, and Dell of course knuckled under, started shipping Windows on the Steam Machine hardware, and discontinued the product.

        SteamDeck is yet another attempt to do basically the same thing. More of Microsoft's patent portfolio has expired since the Steam Machines, the Oracle v Google decision protects compatibility layers that re-implement a public API, and Microsoft's licensing terms have often had carve-outs for devices with screens under a certain size. Plus of course Valve isn't a Windows OEM so they didn't since Microsoft's contracts which is what gave Microsoft all the power to block the earlier versions of SteamOS.

        >Patents remain horrible

        Because as a publicly traded corporation they have a legal responsibility to deliver results to the stakeholders. If they fail to do so, they can be sued for it.

        Dodge v Ford should be repealed, frick ~~*shareholders*~~.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are alternate stores on Android. You're thinking of iOS.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That doesn't really matter. The goal is to have the default store. I am pretty sure you don't need to be a rocket surgeon to figure out that even on Android the Play Store gets the majority of all revenue generated on the Android platform.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >android
      Apple*

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Stopping microsoft from becoming the only store for PC.
      >Everyone b***hes about Valve having a monopoly
      >Gay Ben was fighting one of the biggest monopolies of all time

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        bitches about Valve having a monopoly
        "everyone" are paid shills and usefuli idiots that push that narrative to stop the only big company that doesn't actively shit on its costumers

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Steam being a monopoly is just bait, nobody believes that. Not even overzealous EU politicians entertain that notion.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    He saw a market opportunity in Linux and took it. It paid off, Gaben has insane prominence in the Linux space now.
    I'll give it a few years before Linuxgays turn on him though. He basically proved once again that you need a financially strong, coordinated backing to make a major leap like this and it takes away from the Linux fantasy that the big bad ebil corporations can be taken down by random fat morons on their spare time.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gabe has no interest on controlling Linux anyway, it's virtually impossible. He made the jump easier for a lot of people though, including me.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He basically proved once again that you need a financially strong, coordinated backing to make a major leap like this and it takes away from the Linux fantasy that the big bad ebil corporations can be taken down by random fat morons on their spare time.
      You're out of the loop anon. Nothing in open source world is being made without big corpo behind the development now. Stallman lost the battle long ago.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He basically proved once again that you need a financially strong, coordinated backing to make a major leap like this
      That's not really true, what you need is vision and motivation. Valve had a vision for Linux (use on their "gaming console") and motivation (Windows Store) so they worked toward that goal. If a group of fat neckbeards got the same vision and motivation, they could have done it too. However Linux community is fairly small and they have values that conflict with working toward certain goals such as gaming or desktop Linux, so the drive toward making Linux a gaming OS was always lacking in the absence of Valve.
      With big corpos motivation is easier to find than with neckbeards, currency. Currency is plentiful. Infinite you could say.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        A good evidence for your point is emulators.
        They're not written by big corporations, but there is a clear motivation and vision (running games of other consoles for free), so they do much better than something like a clone of a windows software etc..

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Linux fantasy was always that, by writing good and standards-compliant software, you can trick giant corporations into supporting free and open-source software and make things less user-hostile. That's been the dream since ESR wrote the Cathedral and the Bazaar in the 90s.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think there was some interview long time ago, during early steamOS development times, where someone in valve said that they're doing it because they're concerned about windows platform monopoly on PC vidya and want to have a viable alternative in case some shit goes down. But valve is a fairy tale dreamland for nerds, they do as they please, and nerds love linux, so I wonder if there's even any 'endgame' in all of that. Maybe they just want to support the platform they would like to believe in.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    crashing windows

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      With no survivors

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Linux being viable and popular for gaming probably.
    The benefits are kinda obvious, for one most Linux distributions don't come with their own store, walled garden restrictions and proprietary bullshit that makes your life as a third party game seller harder, for two you can just bundle your own offshoot of the free open thing if you ever decide to sell hardware and give people something that just works without having to pay for licensing.
    Because it's open-source nerd shit you've also got a legion of power users on your platform willing to do your work for you if it makes their life easier. It's like you just get an infinite supply of unpaid interns.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Windows is too bloated and expensive to run on handheld hardware. I hope the market share keeps rising so that devs will make their anti-cheat software work on Linux and Nvidia releases open-source drivers...

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    he was molested by bill when he worked for m$

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >invests on linux
    woah he hired a couple of open source devs! so groundbreaking!

    : > )

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish I could do the same to decompile classic games tbh

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably to do nothing and play BCI VR shit from his bed for the rest of his life.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    to frick over microsoft at PC gaymen, and he's succeeding

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >portable console sells less than vita

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >salesgayging to distract from obviously superior hardware

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      expensive good thing sells less than a cheaper good thing
      who couldve thought?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I sure Sony was content with Vita sales and continued to support it for years.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >whats his endgame?
    Not having to rely on an external platform for his store.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sales numbers only matter when I say so!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it sells like shit because it can't compete with the fisher price tablet!!!!!
    close thread jannies lol

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still only use Windows because I need it to run all the programs I give a shit about. I imagine countless people are in the same boat. Once Wine and Proton are truly good enough to destroy this barrier, I'm guessing they're hoping that a major vector of mass Windows dependence will vanish. At least that's what this shit looked like to me several years ago. Nowadays just seems like Valve skirting around Windows dependency themselves. Either way we benefit.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >We are like le paying le numero 100 devs! we are like le actually hiring 100 new valve employees! with actual contracts! we are definitely not le "paying" open source devs with le "bounty" shit, pinky promise!!!
    lol

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I said so on an interview for a gay tech website so it must be true!!!
    haha

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gabe got really paranoid about the windows store years ago afraid it would be the standard for everything on windows PCs including games.
    So he started to invest in linux starting with the steam machines. those flopped but his work into steam os and eventually Steam Deck kept going as he still had that fear.
    if windows store and microsoft ever can stop being shit gabe will actually have issues making more money which means he will have to eat less food

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if windows store and microsoft ever can stop being shit
      this will never happen, but microsoft can force users to install everything through the store, that's when is trully over and time to switch.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Windows Store is shit but winget is great and should be the standard way of getting software on Windows. Instead of download an exe installer you just copy a terminal prompt like snap on Linux.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >installing anything, period
          i'll just keep using portable software mr gates.

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    theres gonna be a windows downfall sooner or later, I would argue it'll be around Windows 12

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      pog 2 more weeks until windows is deprecated!

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        not like that, it'll probably be a thing only to thinking humans (white people), there will always be an infinitude of pajeets like you so microshaft wangblows will never be unused
        they have been losing good will since win8

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pajeets! like u!
          my poo poo coloured amerimutt bro... I am from EU, I am poor... pasty... and I don't care if some guy walking on the street is white, brown, black, green, etc

          why are americans so obsessed with India, China, Russia, Mexico, etc?

          what happened to Ganker? lol

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >what happened to Ganker? lol
            yurocancer such as yourself invaded as well as spics, if you must know

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I've been on this website for years lol, but you're right, actual zoomer Black folk like u really made this worse it seems...

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you're newbie cancer and you're fooling no one "lol"

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            the double reddit spacing, he struck a nerve

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lots more people using Linux to play video games so his business is no longer as dependent on another company's OS.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Gabe think Steam Machines wwould work in the first place? Console users were already locked into whatever environment they were with and PC users generally could either build their own PCs or bought other prebuilts.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the issue is that 3rd parties made them. if valve made their own right now, i think a lot of people would actually buy into them as their prebuilt.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So to understand that it is important to know how Microsoft does business and enforces their dominance within the desktop niche. In the old days, Microsoft would just straight up tell OEMs they could only ship Windows on their hardware, but that obviously got them in trouble with anti-trust regulators. Around the time the Steam Machines were on the market Microsoft had hit on a new scheme where they used patent licenses to essentially force OEMs to only ship Windows (which bundled the license), or to pay more money for a stand-alone patent when they shipped something else.
      Valve obviously sees this as a major conflict of interest because it drives up the cost of PC gaming, and allows Microsoft to position the walled garden Xbox ecosystem as a more affordable point of entry. With the concern over the fact that Microsoft straight up told Gaben to his face that their plan was to ultimately make Steam no longer function by bringing the walled garden to Windows, Valve needed to get Steam moving outside of Microsoft's threatened walled garden.

      It seems like the intent with Steam Machines was to try to find a loophole in that OEM license, where a system hooked up to a TV and using a Gamepad for input might not fall afoul of the license terms, but Microsoft pressured companies like Dell whether they really wanted to try that, and Dell of course knuckled under, started shipping Windows on the Steam Machine hardware, and discontinued the product.

      SteamDeck is yet another attempt to do basically the same thing. More of Microsoft's patent portfolio has expired since the Steam Machines, the Oracle v Google decision protects compatibility layers that re-implement a public API, and Microsoft's licensing terms have often had carve-outs for devices with screens under a certain size. Plus of course Valve isn't a Windows OEM so they didn't since Microsoft's contracts which is what gave Microsoft all the power to block the earlier versions of SteamOS.

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    TWD

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've taken the first steps in getting away from Windows and installed Nobara for dual boot. Messed around with some games that don't have Linux compatibility and Proton is working pretty great. Zero issues so far. WINE even emulating some windows programs such as MPC-HC with k lite codec has been working with zero hitches.

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I recall, Microsoft wanted to start locking applications like steam behind the windows store and charge for downloads. This spooked valve since people would have to start paying for steam and immediately started looking for the door out and found that out in the form of linux

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >whats his endgame?
    Get away from microshit OS as possible

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    exploring the Mariana trench

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does he own that sub?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        he is looking for atlantis

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It flopped

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's free real estate.

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