Is BDSP the most underrated Pokemon game of all time?

>BEST Battle Tower/Facility ever
>Fantastic Grand Underground, with Pokemon Hideaways
>No HMs
>Secret Bases that are actually useful for once
>Simplified Contests that are actually FUN to play, unlike in DPPt
>Ramanas Park
>Superior Gym Leader rematches
>Superior Pokemon League rematches
>Badass level 100 Shadow Giratina boss fight
>Postgame Dawn/Lucas battle
>Postgame Morimoto battles
>Superior Stickers Customization options, in both 2D and 3D
>Kept the Poffin making minigme, unlike what ORAS did with the berry Blending minigame
>Kept the Safari Zone game, unlike ORAS
>Trainer Customization
>Pokemon following you
>DS Sounds item
>All the QoL improvements from newer games like Mints, Bottle Caps, etc

I really like BDSP. It's the game that made me fall in love with Sinnoh, something that DP and Platinum couldn't achieve. The only thing I dislike about BDSP is the forced Amie bonuses. Otherwise the game is perfect imo.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    holy contrarianism

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is a TPCI (The Pokemon Company India) marketing thread to get us ready for the next region ILCA decides to desecrate

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry, apparently Game Freak were badmouthing ILCA to the Japanese press, which mean they probably won't work with them in the future. I think Unova remakes will be made either by Game Freak themselves, OR another company that's not ILCA.

      Personally? I think ILCA did a great job and Game Freak are being ungrateful to them.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pawn your trash off on another company
        >reap the rewards of their work
        >destroy their reputation
        Game Freak is shit.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Actually believing what anybody in this board says.
          The people posting here must be under 18

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I'm very disappointed with Game Freak, if this is true. ILCA worked really hard on BDSP, and Game Freak are just being ungrateful c**ts. Probably precisely because they're scared of ILCA, because ILCA did a great job.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I certainly like it more than Sword and Shield. It looks nice as well and and is based on my second favorite generation. That's all I can say nice about it.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better than ORAS, LGPE, SWSH, SV...

    and certainly better than whatever dynamax-Sinnoh remake GF would have made on SWSHs engine

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Better than ORAS, LGPE, SWSH, SV...
      Based fellow BDSP enjoyer
      >and certainly better than whatever dynamax-Sinnoh remake GF would have made on SWSHs engine
      THIS is one of the main reasons why I like BDSP so much. I just know GameFreak would've somehow fricked up the lore, the atmosphere, etc

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dynamax is almost certainly THE WORST thing ever in all of pokemon, from all aspects
        So I would take ANY alternative just to avoid a Sinnoh game with dynamax

        BDSP + PLA was one of the best outcomes we could have gotten, if not the best

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >BDSP + PLA was one of the best outcomes we could have gotten, if not the best
          I don't even like PLA but I agree with you.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >BDSP + PLA was one of the best outcomes we could have gotten, if not the best
          False. If GF just made one good remake of modern Sinnoh, we could have had pic related instead of two mediocre games.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mediocre
            more like trashy

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            PLA is god-tier

            >If GF just made one good remake of modern Sinnoh
            .. how would they do that when ORAS, LGBT and SWSH were all garbage?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              This so much. I don't want the same fricking experience again, except even worse. I want a NEW experience, a NEW way to explore the same awesome fictional region, a NEW story, just anything fricking new and not the same shit we've been fed 5 times already. Frick every Pokemon fan honestly, they just wanna play the same game again and again and again and again.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree that it's better than all of those other than SV. But that's only because base DP was already enjoyable

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only low IQ morons think BDSP is bad.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Expshare
    >Amie homosexualry
    It's shit m8 BDSP is literally an insult to 4th gen and I rather play the OG Diamond and Pearl games than it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally an improvement
      >>Amie homosexualry
      I already acknowledged this in the OP, but it's far from a game breaking problem.
      >It's shit m8 BDSP is literally an insult to 4th gen and I rather play the OG Diamond and Pearl games than it
      BDSP blows DP out of the water and it's also better than even Platinum

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, I rather go to my local retro game store, spend 70 dollars on OG Diamond than to touch zoomer homosexualry known as BDSP

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like Autism

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rather be an autist than zoomer with absolute dogshit taste

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not a Zoomer lol. I started with Gen 2. You just have shit taste.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are a zoomer

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No megas no buy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no gimmick garbage
      based and good remakes

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >remake
        This shit is a remaster at best

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based. A game that looks like this is what Sinnohchads deserved.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. The Sinnoh starters got nothing to celebrate them like the Hoenn and Kanto Starters. Even in PLA they gave us Hisuian forms of other starters instead of giving Sinnoh starters anything special. I hate Dynamax but Megas would have been great.

      Literally an improvement
      >>Amie homosexualry
      I already acknowledged this in the OP, but it's far from a game breaking problem.
      >It's shit m8 BDSP is literally an insult to 4th gen and I rather play the OG Diamond and Pearl games than it
      BDSP blows DP out of the water and it's also better than even Platinum

      >better than even Platinum
      No Distortion World
      Worse Gym order
      Math Hearthome Gym elevators instead of the Haunted House Gym
      Worse Contests
      Worse Amity Square
      Worse story
      No Battle Frontier
      No Resort Area Villa
      No Looker
      No Poketch back button

      It's okay to like BDSP but let's not delude ourselves here anon.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No Distortion World
        There's the Distortion Room in BDSP which serves the same purpose
        >Worse Gym order
        Nitpick
        >Math Hearthome Gym elevators instead of the Haunted House Gym
        nitpick
        >Worse Contests
        Not true
        >Worse Amity Square
        Not true
        >Worse story
        Eh, not really. It's almost the same.
        >No Battle Frontier
        True, but the BDSP Battle Tower is much better than any Battle Frontier facility
        >No Resort Area Villa
        True, but kinda minor
        >No Looker
        Irrelevant
        >No Poketch back button
        I absolutely agree with this one

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The lack of the Poketch back button always felt like the funniest thing about the sheer faithfulness of BDSP, removing a QOL feature added in Platinum just to stay faifthful to the original DP, like why be that faithful?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this moron spammer
        >again
        Swear to christ you people never played contests. That shit is terrible and time consuming in both Sinnoh and Hoenn.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >terrible and time consuming in both Sinnoh and Hoenn.
          Just because you personally don't enjoy them and don't want to put time into these features doesn't mean that they shouldn't be included and/or dumbed down. Your flawed reasoning is the exact same that GF uses to justify exclusion of the Battle Frontier and will use to exclude the Pokemon World Tournament.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just because you personally don't enjoy them and don't want to put time
            Holy moron just apply this shit to all your b***hed and lo and behold you have nothing to b***h about.
            >dumbed down
            Streamlined =/= dumbed down, moron. They took out the shitty and slow turned-based portion of it and went all in on the rhythm part. You probably just happen to be shit at it.
            >Pokemon World Tournament.
            Speaking of dumbed down battle facilities.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              please see

              At least they got something. And let's not forget that in the Yellow remake, they have their Megas. Personally, I think that Ancient/Forgotten moves that the Sinnoh starters could learn if they were caught in PLA or relearn from a special tutor in BDSP would have been great.

              > just apply this shit to all your b***hed and lo and behold you have nothing to b***h about.
              Not true. What you're supporting is the exclusion of improvements and features. What I'm saying is just leave them in and let people who will use them enjoy those improvements. No one loses something that they enjoy if the Battle Frontier is in BDSP or ORAS but people who enjoyed the Battle Frontier lose that enjoyment if it is not included.

              Keeping the turn-based portion of Contests does not take anything away from the Rhythm portion or the players who like that part the most. However, taking the turn-based portion away removes an aspect that some players liked.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Sinnoh starters got nothing to celebrate them like the Hoenn and Kanto Starters
        What the frick did the Kanto starters get for FRLG besides a shit move that was applied to literally every starter the very next gen?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          At least they got something. And let's not forget that in the Yellow remake, they have their Megas. Personally, I think that Ancient/Forgotten moves that the Sinnoh starters could learn if they were caught in PLA or relearn from a special tutor in BDSP would have been great.

          > just apply this shit to all your b***hed and lo and behold you have nothing to b***h about.
          Not true. What you're supporting is the exclusion of improvements and features. What I'm saying is just leave them in and let people who will use them enjoy those improvements. No one loses something that they enjoy if the Battle Frontier is in BDSP or ORAS but people who enjoyed the Battle Frontier lose that enjoyment if it is not included.

          Keeping the turn-based portion of Contests does not take anything away from the Rhythm portion or the players who like that part the most. However, taking the turn-based portion away removes an aspect that some players liked.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >At least they got something.
            You didn't play the games then, because every Sinnoh starter got a new move in PLA. But this is as expected as you seem to be endlessly seething in any thread about these games.
            >What you're supporting is the exclusion of improvements and features.
            I support the exclusion of shit. Festival Plaza was a good feature that was removed. The fricking lame ass time consuming dress up and turn based portions of the contests are not good just because 'more content' or 'some players liked it'. Some players didn't and thus, it can be seen as an improvement.
            >Keeping the shit on my plate not take anything away from the normal food on my plate
            Yes in that now there isn't shit on my plate.
            >However, taking the turn-based portion away removes an aspect that some players liked.
            How are you arguing that removing something stupid because stupid players might like the stupid thing is good but keeping in the good part of something because smart players might only want to play the good part is bad? Make it make sense.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >every Sinnoh starter got a new move in PLA
              They got a new move but not new signature moves that are exclusive to them like Infernal Parade. Getting an expanded move pool is not the same as a signature move. Surely, you know this.

              >stupid players might like the stupid thing
              This is another flaw in your logic. "Stupid" as you suggest here is your subjective opinion. I think that the dress up portion of Contests is actually a much "smarter" inclusion because the player character also puts on a Contest Costume. So, it makes sense for their Pokemon to do the same.

              What you are saying with these statements is that your subjective opinion is objectively correct and is the "right" way to do things. This is flawed logic.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They got a new move but not new signature moves that are exclusive to them like Infernal Parade. Getting an expanded move pool is not the same as a signature move. Surely, you know this.
                What does this have to do with them getting as much as the FRLG starters as that was the point of the discussion.
                Besides you said they got nothing.
                >his is another flaw in your logic. "Stupid" as you suggest here is your subjective opinion.
                Literally everything you say is subjective. They expanded on a single part of the contests and removed the 2 other parts but you claim that it was dumbed down because there are less (clunky) moving parts. It wasn't.
                >What you are saying with these statements is that your subjective opinion is objectively correct and is the "right" way to do things. This is flawed logic.
                This is projection

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What does this have to do with them getting as much as the FRLG starters as that was the point of the discussion.
                No, the point was I would like for the Sinnoh starters to get Ancient, signature moves that would be exclusive to them if they were caught in PLA or taught these moves in BDSP by a special tutor.

                >Besides you said they got nothing.
                Move pools change all the time with each game. Changing their move pool is nothing special.
                However, moves like Bitter Malice, Infernal Parade, and Spirit Shackle remain throughout. This is what I would have like the Sinnoh starters to have received at the very least even though they also deserve Megas just like the Kanto and Hoenn starters.

                >Literally everything you say is subjective.
                No. What I'm saying is that every aspect of something like Contests will have value to a part of the player base. And so, why remove any aspect that players might have enjoyed?

                >

                >At least they got something.


                You didn't play the games then, because every Sinnoh starter got a new move in PLA. But this is as expected as you seem to be endlessly seething in any thread about these games.
                >What you're supporting is the exclusion of improvements and features.
                I support the exclusion of shit. Festival Plaza was a good feature that was removed. The fricking lame ass time consuming dress up and turn based portions of the contests are not good just because 'more content' or 'some players liked it'. Some players didn't and thus, it can be seen as an improvement.
                >Keeping the shit on my plate not take anything away from the normal food on my plate
                Yes in that now there isn't shit on my plate.
                >However, taking the turn-based portion away removes an aspect that some players liked.
                How are you arguing that removing something stupid because stupid players might like the stupid thing is good but keeping in the good part of something because smart players might only want to play the good part is bad? Make it make sense.
                >I support the exclusion of shit
                This is what I mean, you want to exclude what you believe to be "shit" but that is your subjective opinion. Some people think that the rhythm portion is shit and would prefer to exclude that in favor of Dress Up and the turn-based portion. I would rather keep rhythm and non-rhythm portions so that all players can find something that they enjoy in Contests.

                You again state that the Dress Up and turn-based part of Contests are "clunky" as if that is objective fact. When there are many players who enjoyed those elements and did not feel that way.

                Something that is objectively "clunky" in BSDP is the mixing of the grid-based map with the player character's off-grid movement. This is observable and has created observable issues like players getting stuck in places or being able to bypass Candice's Gym puzzle.

                You cannot say that Dress Up was "clunky" just because you did not like it. This is an opinion and the feature did not cause any observable problems with Contest gameplay.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, the point was I would like for the Sinnoh starters to get Ancient, signature moves that would be exclusive to them if they were caught in PLA or taught these moves in BDSP by a special tutor.
                What the frick are you even talking about
                See:

                >Okay then how about we let the next Legends Johto/Unova game be in chibi while the true remakes get full scale 3D? Not so appealing now is it?
                Great!
                >Pic related could (and should) be how Route 216 looks on the Switch.
                Anon, the problem with your sperg takes is that you're not mad that the games are bad, you're mad because you didn't get exactly what you were expecting.
                >Pokemon copy pasted DP but makes QoL changes
                >NOOOO that's not what I wanted. I wanted a new take on the region
                >Pokemon makes something more than a shitty remake with Dynamax shoehorned into it
                >NOOOOO that's not what I wanted. I wanted the same game I played 10 years ago.
                Frick off, sperg.

                >Anon, the problem with your sperg takes is that you're not mad that the games are bad, you're mad because you didn't get exactly what you were expecting.
                >Move pools change all the time with each game. Changing their move pool is nothing special.
                And non-legendary exclusive moves are also distributed to more pokemon each gen so they are also nothing really special.
                >No. What I'm saying is that every aspect of something like Contests will have value to a part of the player base. And so, why remove any aspect that players might have enjoyed?
                Black person no one played and beat contests in the same way no one played the frontier. Acting like the vast majority did makes you disingenuous as I said in that other thread. Everyone wanted something that they never even played and then pretends that it should've been included. If I were a designer of any game I wouldn't waste my time with you morons and make something that is still challenging but isn't moronicly clunky. That is an overall improvement.
                >This is what I mean, you want to exclude what you believe to be "shit" but that is your subjective opinion.
                And your opinion is that expansion of one part of content at the cost of exclusion of the other parts is 'less content' so long as there aren't the same amount of parts in said content. That is equally as subjective and quite frankly wrong.
                >Something that is objectively "clunky" in BSDP is the mixing of the grid-based map with the player character's off-grid movement.
                Man is that you making all these BDSP bait threads? Stop being schizo

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >non-legendary exclusive moves are also distributed to more pokemon each gen
                No other Pokemon has gotten Spirit Shackle yet but I get what you're saying. Still, I would prefer signature moves like Infernal Parade that are exclusive for a few years/ generations to nothing at all.

                >Black person no one played and beat contests in the same way no one played the frontier.
                People did play and beat Contests and the Frontier. I agree that a majority of players may not have done so, but I don't agree with excluding that content just because a fewer number of players would appreciate it. Those players are still important. This literally the exact reasoning that GF gave for removal of the Battle Frontier in ORAS

                I'm not going to keep discussing this with you as it seems that you refuse to see the benefit in giving everyone something to enjoy and only want to appeal to the casual majority like a zoomer

                >expansion of one part of content
                Never did I say that Contests or the Battle Frontier should be expanded, I was just saying keep them as they were. This excludes nothing.

                >Man is that you making all these BDSP bait threads?
                Kek. No. Don't even joke like that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Sinnoh starters were robbed.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Park
    This part of the game alone drops it several tiers

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Literally an improvement
    >>>Amie homosexualry
    >I already acknowledged this in the OP, but it's far from a game breaking problem.
    ^ THIS

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >improvement
      no
      >far from a game breaking problem
      hello pokemon company shill

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Black person you love TPC that's why you're here. That or you're a moron.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Fixed the localization homosexualry
    >Make the artbox soulful 2D art like originals
    >Remove amie and expshare garbage
    There I fixed your game and made it defend worthy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I always forget how bad this shit was
      How did gamefreak approve this garbage game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just have shit taste

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man every time you ask localizers why they make shit changes they get all defensive to the point where its not even worth it.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just not paying full price for shovelware. it's dirty. I already paid for SV and that's close to shovelware. SwSh and BDSP are over the line for me.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      BDSP is the best game since BW2 and SwSh is miles better than SV.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. The TCG ones are.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    only if you play luminescent platinum

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    BDSP has the best rematches so its got that going for it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where's the soul?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cyrus has a Rotom.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally I've never understood the people jerking off about the elite 4 rematches, they must only play Pokémon. They are only marginally more challenging. But not meaningfully more challenging in any way. If I want actual challenge that is noticeable then I'll play an actually hard game and not babys first RPG. It's basically a moot point, especially when the challenge increase is minimal anyway

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It says Battle Tower there.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, I like BDSM better! (Big Dick Sun and Moon)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That shit is ass but good for you

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No battle pike with cynthia in it, no buy

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DP if it was shitty nugen slop

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit taste detected

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You must be pointing that detector at yourself kek

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, my taste is flawless

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your taste is shit. Thanks to ILCA and PLA, we'll never see this scene in its full glory--or the rest of modern Sinnoh for that matter.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Chibi is better

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Chibi is better
                Okay then how about we let the next Legends Johto/Unova game be in chibi while the true remakes get full scale 3D? Not so appealing now is it? Pic related could (and should) be how Route 216 looks on the Switch. Plus, the Spear Pillar climax in BDSP just looks like a joke with Chibi Cyrus. They could have at least used the in-battle models for one cutscene.

                PLA is god-tier

                >If GF just made one good remake of modern Sinnoh
                .. how would they do that when ORAS, LGBT and SWSH were all garbage?

                ORAS was good

                This so much. I don't want the same fricking experience again, except even worse. I want a NEW experience, a NEW way to explore the same awesome fictional region, a NEW story, just anything fricking new and not the same shit we've been fed 5 times already. Frick every Pokemon fan honestly, they just wanna play the same game again and again and again and again.

                ORAS was a good mix of old and new. If we did things this way, we would never get remakes when the entire point of remaking games is to give fans of the original to see a more realized and upgraded version of what they played before. ORAS gave people who played RSE an experience that was familiar but also new. The story was not exactly the same, characters were redesigned, Environments had details added to them, the lore was integrated into the story of the current generation, players could bring their new Pokemon to their home region, their starters got new forms with new abilities.

                It's fine to make a new game set in Sinnoh like PLA, but if GF is going to make a remake, then they should try to make it a fresh take on a familiar experience. I personally loved ORAS for what it did with the lore of Mega Evolution, the Deoxys battle in space, enhancing the look of the region to match Gen 6's graphics, a new take on the original soundtrack, etc, the Delta Episode, etc.

                ORAS is not RSE and if I want the original experience, I just play the originals. I don't consider ORAS to be the same game again. It is a new twist on the base experience. This is what BDSP should have been otherwise, I can just go play DPPt.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ORAS was good
                No
                XY wasnt good
                'XY, but reskinned in Hoenn' wasnt good

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Okay then how about we let the next Legends Johto/Unova game be in chibi while the true remakes get full scale 3D? Not so appealing now is it?
                Great!
                >Pic related could (and should) be how Route 216 looks on the Switch.
                Anon, the problem with your sperg takes is that you're not mad that the games are bad, you're mad because you didn't get exactly what you were expecting.
                >Pokemon copy pasted DP but makes QoL changes
                >NOOOO that's not what I wanted. I wanted a new take on the region
                >Pokemon makes something more than a shitty remake with Dynamax shoehorned into it
                >NOOOOO that's not what I wanted. I wanted the same game I played 10 years ago.
                Frick off, sperg.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Great!
                Honestly, I respect you for being willing to play a chibi Legends game. Personally, I would hate to see the Volo battle in chibi. I think that it just ruins the tone of the story in important moments where things are supposed to be serious.

                Pic related is a much worse fit for the tone of the scene than

                Your taste is shit. Thanks to ILCA and PLA, we'll never see this scene in its full glory--or the rest of modern Sinnoh for that matter.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ORAS was a good mix of old and new.
                Not in my opinion. It was a halfway house that changed just enough to be different to the point of annoyance but not enough to be meaningfully different in any way. Not to mention I strongly dislike Megas. I'd rather just have another game set in Hoenn that lets me experience the region through another lens. Could be anything. Maybe a Legends game, maybe a contest focussed journey, maybe a Hoenn sequel or prequel.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think that's a fair take anon. I'm not saying that a Legends Hoenn isn't a good idea. But what I'm saying is that the pair should be

                Legends Hoenn + ORAS style remake and not Legends Arceus + 1:1 remake.

                I totally get preferring a new experience, but I just think that the second pair is worse because the originals still exist. I can play DPPt and get an experience much closer to BDSP than with ORAS and RSE. I don't see the point in making BDSP instead of just porting Platinum if BDSP was going to be 1:1

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >muh ashnime shit
              opinion discarded

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                What are you talking about anon? I'm not talking about the anime, I just want a cutscene with full scale models. Cutscenes with the full scale models have been in every 3D game since X and Y except for BDSP.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care, the BDSP should have looked like this and let us get Dialga/Palkia Origin forms in BDSP instead of locking them to PLA

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    BDSP is a non-pokemon game larping as a pokemon game. Pokemon games have HMs and shinies and competitive pokemon actually take effort to obtain, BDSP casualized it because it’s aimed at people who are too moronic to play pokemon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >PLA is a non-pokemon game larping as a pokemon game.
      Ftfy

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well they're singificantly better games than Sword frickin' Shield yet get more hate thrown at them than it, so yes, I suppose by definition you could say they're underrated, but that wouldn't make them good or ideal, just "less bad than the real worst".

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No it's shit and half the things you mentioned like statue bases and grinding for legendary gems suck

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it looks ugly as hell
    the originals looked better

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's styled after the originals so I suppose the originals are also ugly as hell

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah BDSP are the only Pokémon games I've refused to play on the ground of them just looking so, so goddamn buttugly. Fricking ugliest Pokémon games I've ever laid my eyes on. Honestly it amazes me how ugly it looks. It's like they purposely tried to make the worst possible decisions at every step of the way. So, so bad.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's just, like, your opinion, anon. I don't think BDSP looks ugly at all. It's one of the cutest looking games imo.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It is indeed my opinion, but I thought I'd share it. I like the chibi, it's just really badly executed. It does look very generic also, it doesn't have that Pokémon charm to me.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              In my opinion, BDSP looks as close as possible to the original DPPt. Which I appreciate.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                dppt arent the best looking games but youre moronic if you think bdsm looks better

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think BDSP look as good as DPPt. Both games look good imo.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair it's just their opinion. I agree with you but it's subjective. I do think most people think BDSP look super ugly though, I hope modders can fix it and also make the chibi heads a little smaller

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ILCA makes a pokemon game
    >Pokemorons spends their time trashing BDSP because of its bugs

    >Lamefreak makes a pokemon game that's even more bug-riddled than BDSP
    >Pokemorons sings praises of Gamefreak and ScatVomit
    Frick Pokemorons and their blind obedience to Lamefreak

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's easier to blame ILCA than understanding that Game Freaks bad instructions, guidance and short time schedule fricked ILCA's workflow up

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why the constant BDSP shilling these past few months? Bots? Genuinely mindbroken sinnohnigs?
    Don't tell me you are actually going to fall for this scam of a game?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's Discordgays trying to divide /vp/ as usual

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Schizo

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's right tho

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it’s literally one moronic pajeet shill spamming these threads
      “the best battle tower in the series, goys”
      “le secret bases are actually useful now”
      “bdsp helped me become a sinnoh fan when dp and platinum couldnt”
      over and over

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I WANTED A CANDICE IN A BIKINI REDESIGN!

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    Anonymous

    >BEST Battle Tower/Facility ever
    It’s funny when the bait is clear from the first line, but no one actually played BDSP’s Tower to know better.

    The doubles / multi format is decent in BDSP’s Tower, but holy shit, the singles format might be the absolute worst in the series.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the singles format might be the absolute worst in the series
      You are objectively wrong. BDSP Singles is all I play usually, and I love how challenging it is. Better AI than any Battle Facility in the series. How is this not the best Battle Facility in the series? Explain?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >objectively wrong
        Impossible in this context. BDSP’s Tower singles format is an exercise in extreme autism. It’s…ok, but the amount of minmaxing required is higher than ever. I find the lack of freedom frustrating, and it is made even worse by removed features (attacks, items, pokemon).

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          BDSP's Battle Tower Singles is very hard to beat. That's why you don't like it and that's why I love it. I haven't beaten it yet because I try to use my favorite Pokemon. This doesn't bother me. I love the challenge. I'm tired of easy Battle Towers. I think Gen 6 was the easiest.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok karen.

            post your hours played in bdsp and hand

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thing is, I’ve beaten it and played way more than most. The main reason I think BDSP’s Tower sucks is that the viable options for team building are at a near-all-time low (or at least since the original DPP). The doubles format is a bit better due to having more options for counterplay and synergy, but the singles format is really, really bad (and I say this as someone who usually enjoys it).

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >BDSP’s Tower singles format is an exercise in extreme autism
              It's literally almost the exact same tower it was when DP came out. You have to use good Pokemon no matter the fricking facility or know what you're doing - and you clearly dont.
              It's okay to be bad at games bro. No need to reach so much.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It's literally almost the exact same tower it was when DP came out
                You sure you’ve played this? The teams and structure are very different, for one. See a bunch of Multiscale Dragonite in DPP? kek

                >You have to use good Pokemon
                Not really. Midgrade mon have been viable in plenty of facilities, including past versions of the tower (no, not just SWSH’s baby mode Tower). The same is not true for BDSP’s Tower.

                >It's okay to be bad at games bro. No need to reach so much.
                Already said I beat BDSP’s Tower. Are you coming up with headcanon for me being a shitter? Funny if true.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Almost the same
                You sure you know how to read? BDSP's addtions expanded what you could use and yet your argument is that you don't have options.
                >Not really.
                You're saying you have options on what pokemon to use? Woah there.
                >Are you coming up with headcanon for me being a shitter?
                No you've proven that as you can't decide if youi do have options or your don't. You might be the one with autism

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nonsensical babble
                You are a moron. In theory, you do have more options given the (restricted) movepool changes, hidden ability introductions, and fairy type implementation. However, it doesn’t work that way in practice. The singles tower isn’t balanced for team building variety, as it was in facilities like the Tree.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, fair enough. But as someone who almost exclusively plays Battle Tower Singles, I completely disagree with you.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                When will you post your hand, pajeet

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    Anonymous
  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which Nintendo franchise would be my ideal alternative to Pokemon?
    >franchise without Fairies
    >I hate RPG's
    >anti-pokemon franchise
    >franchise without competitive
    >franchise where all its games are single player
    >franchise whose target is totally opposite to that of pokemon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about you play games that aren't made by Nintendo for a change. But if you must my favourite Nintendo franchises are Warioware, 2D Zelda, Mario RPGs, 3D Mario, Rhythm Heaven and Sin and Punishment

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hate the legend of zelda

        And what non-Nintendo franchise would fit what I'm looking for?

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    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no 3d cheryl sex mini game in perfect platinum

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    Anonymous

    reminder that BDSP>Platinum is a discord psyop

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reminder that BDSP>Platinum is a discord psyop
      It's not a psyop because it's factually correct

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    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which part of Sinnoh is this?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Solaceon Town. It's got the white fences.

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick you for reminding me that BDSP exists

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    ngl i hate his ugly looking hat

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    but in all seriousness
    the chibi look for bdsp looks like shit
    absolute shit

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Simplified Contests that are actually FUN to play, unlike in DPPt
    What did people think about Sinnoh Contrsts the first time?

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