Is building your pc really that hard if you want to play video games at better quality than consoles?
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Is building your pc really that hard if you want to play video games at better quality than consoles?
I hate those connectors
>installing rootkits
I hope your pirating all your single player games
every modern PC game has kernel access for some israeli reason
No, but it'll cost 2-3x the price at the absolute minimum to have a machine that plays games at the same resolution and FPS as something like a Series X or PS5. I know someone building a high end PC who has already spent $2k and still isn't done putting stuff together. You're not getting 4K/60 or even 30fps with ray tracing and all the fancy stuff out of a $600 PC.
Multiplayer games 20+ years ago had kernel-level anticheat, just because it recently got memed doesn't mean it's a new thing at all.
>Multiplayer games 20+ years ago had kernel-level anticheat, just because it recently got memed doesn't mean it's a new thing at all.
lol no
punkbuster was the most invasive and did shady shit like take screenshots of your desktop but it was not kernel-level AC
it took me about 2 hours to do. unfortunately some part, either the ram or cpu, was bad. returned it all.
Yeah, it’s really not hard to build a computer but it can be frustrating if a part is bad since there isn’t always a clear sign what the problem is.
>weird sound coming from the psu and the gpu wasn’t being recognized on my brother’s new rig
>it was the fricking cpu
Didn’t even give an error light on the motherboard.
>need to be a fricking rocket scientist to build a computer
ya'll Black folk said this would be easy
it's fricking not
how would you feel if you didn't eated breakfast?
i didn ate it tho
but how would you feel if you had?
It is easy tho what are you confused about.
>zoomers filtered from PC gaming because they don't know where to stick the plugs
this would be funny if it weren't extremely alarming. society is fricked in 1 generation
It can get pretty hard, these threads are just de facto troll threads.
Buying a bad PSU, or using your ram configuration wrong, expecting XMP to "just work," without proper installing, CPU's designed for thermal throttling, overclocking, and all kinds of undervolting, there are lots of things that can go wrong. Really it's just like riding a bike: riding it is enough for most people, autism-cycles and cassettes are for users that actually care about how it works.
don't buy shit if you don't know what it's used for. not that hard
Yeah, most people buy a 21-speed bike and never use more configurations than seven. Same logic, you bought a Switch, but I bet you don't use the HD Rumble; or have any games that make use of it at all. Lots of people do that.
Logical Increments and other websites are out there to help people with building their own PCs. Also, the rest of your post is only applicable for people wanting to overclock and other power user things. A regulae person doesn't care about those things.
Who is a regular person?
A person that just wants to save money by building their own PC and wants to play games, not someone who tweaks voltages, tweaks software, and other things.
So someone incapable of setting up an XMP with their adequately priced RAM.
...what are you talking about? Do you have brain damage? Please re-read the previous posts.
You need to go into the BIOS or UEFI to tweak your settings and voltages, in order to get your RAM's rated speeds in XMP.
XMP(or EXPO) is just the bios reading a series of settings coded into the rom on the dimm. This will include voltage settings.
Still, you would need to open up the UEFI pretty normally, and tweak the rated RAM speeds with just a few clicks or keyboard strokes.
No. The entire point of XMP and EXPO is to be a single-click option to have all the required values read and applied in bios. This is why QVL exists.
It didn't work for me that way, in fact, I needed to go into the UEFI explicitly to set my RAM to its XMP.
You're just making it sound more easy because you think a debate involves socialized polarities.
I bet you missed the part about QVL.
I think I remember what QVL is, but you can help me remember.
Oh yeah, the list of qualified vendors for ram. Should always buy ram from any one of these manufacturers, that will at least make things easier.
>the list of qualified vendors for ram. Should always buy ram from any one of these manufacturers
Not quite. It is a list of ram that the mobo manufacturer has tested and is confirmed to work (hint this is where XMP and EXPO stetp in). Anything not on QVL may Just Werk or is here be dragons territory (which is when enabling XMP doesn't work). My own system uses non-QVL ram and attempting to use the XMP profile will bluescreen windows 100% of the time as soon as the OS loads, so I have manually tuned it.
I however knew this going in and as such it is an expected outcome.
That's what I said, the qualified vendors for the mobo.
Just be quiet bro frickin nerd
frickyou name gay
Stop thinking that you can argue without a ground to stand on.
u aint special with that name
Not everyone is as braindead as cyclists
Why do you guys think it's cool to shit on exercise?
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>Be afraid, be very afraid of my fear mongering.
I hope they're paying you good for this.
I literally just bought the parts put them in, installed windows and everything worked.
Normal users don't need to frick around with overclocking or any of that other bullshit. If you screw with settings you don't understand you're asking for it. They could just as easy frick up a pre-built that way.
I bet you'd also claim that PSUs constantly explode and take every component with them, everything needs water cooling and 50 fans to not burn up, you'll get hacked and infected with viruses if you don't get the weekly updates.
All bullshit. I've found machines sitting on the side of the road after being rained on for 2 days and they worked fine. I've seen AI training machines in offices i've worked in that ran all day everyday just fine with a small heat sink and a couple fans in the case.
For all the fear mongering horror stories you see online 99% of people have none of these issues, in the rare cases that do it's just bad luck.
I don't think it's fear mongering, it gets a fair opportunity of failure. Chips, cpus, gpus all have failure rates, even RAM can break. Outside of actually putting the thing together, there's a lot that may not "just work," but we have threads on Ganker and Ganker every other day explaining that.
I built my first pc following a guide when I was 13, almost 15 years ago when YouTube guides were much lower quality. My family looked at me like I was a wizard, but it’s like assembling ikea furniture. You have to be moronic to not get it.
The hardest for me is always cable management. Unless I have an Ultra tower to work with, it always feels like I have too little space to weave the cables to their respective plugs. And while the cables themselves are durable enough to withstand really strong bends, it tickles my autism greatly whenever that's required at all to get them where they need to go.
Everything else is easy though. The only part that can catch newbies off-guard is where pulling the latch down the first time might produced an uncomfortable, pins-are-breaking sound. Glad I had a friend around to tell me it's nothing to be concerned about.
I pulled the plastic cover off the top and just dropped my CPU in. Found out later I was supposed to use the plastic piece to seat it. Oh well still worked at least.
You look up a guide online and pay attention.
That's about it, there's no specialized skill or knowledge necessary. It is pretty much just legos for big brave boys.
It's a huge pain in the ass that will take you all day but it's not "hard" as long as you have another device with YouTube open watching all sorts of tutorials as you go.
It's not difficult
Though my only problem with it is regretting what I picked for the PC, I shouldve spent more money to get newer and better future proof parts
Only if you're moronic. PC building is so homogenized is easier than ever to build one
I built my first PC last year. There were a few things that made me go "huh?" like the integrated standoffs in my case (thought I was missing screws) and I was scared of messing up the parts (damn intel CPU), but it was not super difficult
Nope. Just do your homework beforehand. That goes to what you spend your money on and the building process too. The manual you get with the parts (mostly the motherboard's and your case's) are perfectly enough to be able to do the process even a complete noob but it never hurts to be over-prepared. I knew people who were teenagers in the late 90s and their first PCs then without any external help (internet included). Things might be a shade more complicated nowadays (shit like RGB didn't exist back then) but it doesn't require any extraordinary skill or competence.
Basically LEGO where certain parts only fit in certain places. It's admittedly not as of a streamlined experience (I mean not just the building but actually using the PC) as a console but it's much more versatile and you have far greater control over everything. And most importantly, you'll learn the little tricks as you go on. That applies for the building process, troubleshooting problems and just customizing things to your liking. You're only the beginning of the road and the learning process basically never ends, but in exchange your knowledge and confidence will expand too.
sometimes even doing your homework can get you tripped up because the issue isn’t widely known or reported
i had to buy another psu because the one i had did not play nicely with my other parts and you wouldn’t be able to tell at a glance what the problem was, even moreso as a newbie. i bought a corsair rmx psu, a fractal torrent case and a 4090. everything appeared to be compatible. however the psu was an unusual side-facing cables config, the case was an unusual top-mounted psu config. this meant that i had to reroute the gpu power connector to the back of mobo and out of a grommet. this would have been fine if not for the 4090, which requires the power cable not to be bent too much or risk the connector melting. the weird psu and case config made for a longer cable run which meant the gpu power cable had to be bent and i wasn’t willing to risk it
basically a perfect storm of caveats coming together to make the build a no-sell
That just because you’re a fricking moron
I'm buying a prebuilt because I dont know any trusted hardware stores
You're on the internet, dude. All of that information is already available to you.
Just admit you're too moronic to assemble a PC instead of making worthless excuses.
I'm a paranoid schizo. You will never make me trust reviews
also yes I'm moronic and deathly afraid of buying wrong parts
Just don't buy a prebuilt from an OEM and you'll usually be fine. There are plenty that use actual parts and not special snowflake bullshit that you'll never be able to do anything with in the future.
If you do make sure you check all the connectors before turning it on, especially your RAM. It's not uncommon for RAM to jostle loose during shipping despite good packaging.
question if my computer shutdown and the lights jsut flicker when i start it up, is it the mother board or the cpu?
Nah it wasn't that hard. Just did a build completely from scratch last month.
The connectors had labels for where they go both on the board and on the cable and in the manual. Most of them won't even fit into the wrong spots.
Just use the pcpart website to make sure you get compatible parts.
I'd check the memory first, sometimes they have issues if you don't put them in the recommended spot, or seat them right, make sure everything is secure and fans are working.
>make sure you get compatible parts.
That is more or less the only complicated part and once you get over that fairly small hump its pretty easy
>I'd check the memory first,
I did. used one stick each then none. still didnt boot but light flickered
It's like riding a bike, you never forget how.
But you will probably fall a couple times.
If you can read, you'll be fine.
There are also millions of tutorials on Youtube that cover every aspect in detail.
it's the only way to play p.c.
if you buy pre-assembled you never know what's inside and it's marked up like 20%
I made my pc with no anti static and I dropped my gpu twice while making it, I sneezed on the motherboard and cleaned it off with a q-tip. also one of my case fans doesnt work but i'm too lazy to fix it. all of that and my pc still worked and has been working for like a year now just don't stress out
It worked on my first try, but I did everything by the book.
Building my second one was easier and more ghetto, because I used cash money to buy everything, but it turned out okay.
Huh, I didn't know so many anons were illiterate. Does explain a few things though.
nowadays is easy, everything labeled
PC building was easy when GPU didn't cost $3000.
I built mine with a used GTX 1080 I got for $160. Just don't play modern slop bro.
i play modern slop on my 1080 though
>Is building your pc really that hard if you want to play video games at better quality than consoles?
Stop talking to the namegay.
there's no need to do it if you don't want to, just pay the 50 bucks or whatever for the guys at the shop to do it. i just do it cause i enjoy it and i've always built my own pc's
I did it when I was 18 off Newegg and I'm 38 now and a moron. If you are white it should be easy imo, although there are white people who voted for Donald Trump so it's hard to say.
Nice post for a black man! You can read and write!
After a month my new build won't boot with the (9 year old) GPU in it anymore and now all I can do is pray that my GPU died and not the mobo
Doesn't your CPU have embedded graphics?
Pull out your GPU and try without it.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, it does boot if the GPU is removed but I have an X3D chip so no iGPU (and I don't have any other GPUs to test with or another computer to test it on)
7800X3D has an igpu idk what you’re talking about
It's a 5800
>an X3D chip so no iGPU
My 7800X3D had an integrated GPU, guess you're using an older one.
> it does boot
by boot you mean getting to the OS or just turning on? If it's getting to the OS i'd figure like a 90% chance that it's not your board.
If you're unsure whether it is getting to the OS there are a few ways you could test it.
One I use a lot is checking if num or cap lock light switches on your keyboard. That could tell you if you're getting to or past the bios. Since it typically won't work at all if it's totally fricked.
If you have it plugged into a router you could also log in to your router and see if it is connecting with dhcp.
Alternatively I imagine you should be able to find some cheap used crap GPU for less than $50 on ebay that could at least get your display working for testing.
My 7800X3D had an integrated GPU, guess you're using an older one.
Yeah
>by boot you mean getting to the OS or just turning on?
It turns on and seems to clear all the POST stuff except for the GPU (the VGA debug light stays on) I don't know if it'll actually boot to the OS without it so I've never left it on long enough to see if the keyboard lights up and such
>press power button on computer
>nothing happens
>get sinking feeling
>oh god the nightmare begins again
>wiggle the power button cable just in case
>turns on
jesus christ
>press power button
>no display
whats the point of consoles when they are just AMD PCs?
for Black folk to steal them from transfer trucks
Consoles would be a lot more useful if they were literally small PCs.
>Built a rig with a 7950X3D about a year ago
>I had read that memory training would take a while on initial boot, but it felt like it was taking far too long
>Walk away to go grab motherboard manual
>Come back and the thing had booted into BIOs
Not an issue since.
>get new mobo
>fricked up box from upsBlack folk
>inspect it, has some bent pins
>have to travel to the store anyway and ask for a refund and try to convince them it wasn't me
FRICK
I enjoy the whole process of building a PC
researching parts
watching videos and reading articles
deciding which ones to get
the anticipation for them to be delivered
assembly day
hoping you don't frick up the pins when you set the CPU
feeling like oh yeah I totally bent every pin
realize no thats just what it feels like
getting random cuts from the case and not noticing until you start seeing blood on your hands for no perceivable reason
installing a fresh OS
booting up a game for the first time cranking all the settings to max
it's the best
Spending half an hour trying to pull out that FRICKING USB3 header when you switch out your motherboard in the same case
Why did they make it so awful?
it's an IQ filter
>IQ filter
>moron buy a pre-built
what now
>pre-built has windows
Still low IQ
>ask PC store to install Mint/Zorin
waht now
>moron buys a prebuilt with chink ram/gpu/psu/mobo that will fail in 2 years
its a non issue.
>Just look up a guide bro
>Have a completely different case and components to said guides.
just like, put the motherboard in the case and connect everything to the motherboard lol
I'm straight up moronic and even I managed to do it
Just get a case that's easy to work in. I got a fractal brand case and it was really simple
>I enjoy the whole process of building a PC
>researching parts
>watching videos and reading articles
>deciding which ones to get
>the anticipation for them to be delivered
>assembly day
>hoping you don't frick up the pins when you set the CPU
>feeling like oh yeah I totally bent every pin
>realize no thats just what it feels like
>getting random cuts from the case and not noticing until you start seeing blood on your hands for no perceivable reason
All that except
>doesn't boot up
>only get CPU and VRAM led lights on motherboard
>google it
>check and do every salution
>people have the same problem with same motherboard + CPU
>no one figures it out and either never bother posting or only solution for them was to replace the motherboard
>he needed the moron aggregator
its pretty easy to
Not really but prepare to fork out your wallet. If you think $3000 is a lot of money PC building is not for you.
you can build a decent gaming pc for $1200 if you use a new cpu and gpu
i fricking love being white
>Is building your pc really that hard
not really, and parts compatibility is checked easily with pcpartipicker et similia
only word of advice is, if you feel like you are required to put too much force at some point stop, step back and think what the frick is happening
If a moron like me can build a computer and attatch those cables without the adapter then no it's not fricking hard