>Is essentially responsible for all the bad stuff to happen throughout the series

>Is essentially responsible for all the bad stuff to happen throughout the series
>Ruins the countless lives of innocents
>Murders (Though not really lol) an innocent girl in front of her husbando, forcing said husbando to get reverse isekai-ed
>Receives zero comeuppance for his atrocities and gets to go to Keyblade heaven with his BFF who is almost as bad as he is
>NOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO VIEW HIM AS A TRAGIC AND SYMPATHETIC CHARACTER NOW!
Why is modern Kingdom Hearts' writing so awful?

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tells the villains backstory and motivation after the fact
    Awful. KH3 killed it for me, i don't care

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The series ended at KH2 and everything released afterwards is non-canon.
      Including Birth By Sleep. Frick that game for managing to do every single thing prequels are NOT supposed to do.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        True and the ending for KH2 is pretty satisfying narratively, having the friends finally meet again, Riku and Sora becoming friends again for one of vidyas best final battles and having killed Xehanort. You didn't need more, no one actually cared what was in the bottle
        BBS really did kill it all

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep. I'm one of those folks too. KH-CoM-2 felt like an actual coherent trilogy.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's because it is.
          The original KH trilogy is KH1, CoM and KH2, with days a supplemental material.
          The Dark seeker saga is BBS, DDD, and KH3, with coded, 0.2 and Dark Road as supplemental material.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >modern

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      The first game, though cheesy at times, was a heartfelt hero's journey adventure that though dark, actually had reason to be and wasn't try-hard. Also the Disney elements mattered

      Now the series is a cynical, bleak psuedo-battle shounen with unnecessary retcons and asspulls every second that also advertises what Disney IPs are relevant at the time.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Keyblade heaven
    How did this meme start?

    • 8 months ago
      Moose

      Because they go into the light together and from a western point of view that's like going into Heaven. People forget that the KH world doesn't have a Heaven, as far as I understand it the death process is
      >Die.
      >If a Heartless took your heart rather than you having a natural death or them killing you then you potentially turn into a Heartless and Nobody and reform if both are killed.
      >You go to the Final World. If someone still believes you are alive or they can save you and they believe it hard enough you stick here until they forget, die, or accept your death.
      >Your heart returns to Kingdom Hearts.
      >Gets turned into a new heart and spat out into a new being?
      The last one is the only one I'm not 100% sure on. I know one of the Norts (Xemnas? Ansem?) said all hearts return to Kingdom Hearts and we see someone get killed by a Heartless on the first visit to Traverse Town in KH1.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just know he's saving it for the final game, Kingdom hearts is definitely going to be it's own world, we've already been getting closer and closer with scala and the final world, it's obvious.
        Too bad we'll never see it because dev times are getting longer and this series will never fricking end

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still feel like KH4 will be peak NomuraKino. Everything about the MoM and the Lost Master Arc so far has been some of the best writing the series has seen since KH2.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MoM
      Wait, that Game has actual writing?
      But yes, i really want to see what Nomura cooks up for 4.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Master of Masters, not that Melody game.

      • 8 months ago
        Moose

        He's talking about the Master of Masters.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    him doing shit just to see what would happen was a lot more compelling than being some misguided noble spirit. No idea why they tried to go with that

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Disney brought their own writers for KH4 and shut Nomura out of the room, Dan Harmon style?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would YOU want to deal with all that fricking lore autism?

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >modern
    It was always bad. It was aimless, vague nonsense with no actual coherence or direction and the various sequels and spin-offs prove it.
    KH has some of the worst writing I've ever seen.
    Stop talking about this piece of shit series.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kino series with amazing gameplay and boss fights
      2FM is better than your favorite game, sorry bro

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, sorry about that whole Darkness thing..

  10. 8 months ago
    Moose

    [...]

    >Doesn't like Roxas, one of the best written characters we've got.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Roxas is the exception to this because his arc was actually good but yeah i agree. I'm also of the mind however that we shouldn't be playing as Sora, his arc ended in 2.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The entire final boss sequence was a massive disappointment and a piece of shit. Its was the only thing I had left hyped for and it made me depressed and left empty. I somehow feel more angry with kh3 than ffxv. Most soulless kingdom hearts game.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Goat nort was fine. Phase 1 and 3 are ass that only basic slash and projectile outside of the elaborate DM.
      The fact Data Xehanort is so different because Base game forgot to make him use the X-Blade transformations, the main gimmick of the game, says everything

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    A reminder if KH3 was the Last Jedi, KH4 is 100% going to be Rise of Skywalker.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    it went to shit when Nomura decided to revive everyone to placate the akuroku fujos. Roxas, Naminé, Xion, Axel, the entire Org. XIII, Ansem, etc. should have stayed fricking dead. they were clearly written to stay dead. now we have a hyper bloated cast that does nothing important and 90% of the characters are just there to appear in one scene and drop a cool one-liner for fans to go "UOOOOH ROXAS" it's boring as shit

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