Is fantasy fatigue a thing yet? How long until people get sick of it like superheroes?
Is fantasy fatigue a thing yet? How long until people get sick of it like superheroes?
Is fantasy fatigue a thing yet? How long until people get sick of it like superheroes?
Why are you posting anime instead of video games?
Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Baldurs Gate, Lords of the Fallen, Dragon's Dogma, Dragons Age, Final Fantasy XVI, Witcher etc
So why not use pictures of those games oh wait because they are all so drastically different that OP would look moronic
Fantasy is evergreen. In fact there should be a retro fantasy / sword and sorcery aesthetic revival.
Japs can't even do a berserk anime right how the FRICK do you expect them to ever do a sword and sorcery/Hyperborean Age setting?
Because it can't be aired on TV and won't guarantee a bankroll. also because it's good but suffers from the brotherhood effect where you have to say it's the best and there's no room for argument
>brotherhood effect where you have to say it's the best and there's no room for argument
what argument?
>Is fantasy fatigue a thing yet?
NO
I will NEVER tire of fantasy and its endless interpretations, and I will devour all fantasy fotm anime be it isekai or goburin slaya
>In fact there should be a retro fantasy / sword and sorcery aesthetic revival.
god I wish
shadow over mystara is 11/10
Not happening unfortunately. The japs have lost their touch. They can only make the same sterile generic in-house style for the most part now. Once the old guarde all die/retire, that'll pretty much be it
First and most recent of a 12 year old series, that came out nearly 2 years ago
Sequel after 20 years that has been playable for years
no-one played it so no-one cares
12 year old game
dead franchise
16th installment in a 35 year old series
franchise that ended 8 years ago
1 fantasy game released this year
And the best for last The Elder Scrolls
Happy now?
Here's a roman fort, many of which eventually turned into small towns and cities
>100 people lived here... now it's a ghost town
>Have the foresight to build town on river
>Have no docks whatsoever
>Only river access is from castle, preventing merchants from transporting goods by river, preventing fishermen from fishing in river, and invalidating the entire point of a castle all at the same time.
Izlude is the port town serving Prontera
Izlude is the port for the region, not Prontera
Why would you only have one port per region? Why wouldn‘t you use boats to trade with this settlement? Maybe the reason animegays keep getting served such awefull world building is that they don‘t have any idea of how the real world works
>Why would you only have one port per region?
Government regulation.
It's pretty common. Both China and Japan had this before the west forced them to open more trading ports.
What do they eat
Traditional Bukkake.
Did they build castle on top of the river? It will just wash away the soil underneath
I MISS IT SO MUCH
Where do you think you are, moron?
Mamu ti jebem
I fricked your mom?
Ganker - Vidya
They are all videogames
Do you know how isrkai works
Jannies can post off topic all they want so frick off moron.
Anime website you fricking gay. Go back.
>How long until people get sick of it like superheroes?
People got sick of superheroes because the products got shitty. So as long as it takes for fantasy to get shitty?
Marvel also released something like 15 movies in 10 years, ontop of however many movies DC released. Even if most of them weren't forgettable or outright shitty people would've gotten tired of it.
Can only make that many interesting main character stories with Thor and spoodey until you run out of ideas and comic material.
Focusing on meme side characters either like literal miss Whovel doesn't improve the situation. It ruins the flow, turns standalone movies into something casual that comes out weekly like a comic, and not even good one.
And such casual thing doesn't justify 100m+ budget that they spend on each movie.
Either they release few expensive standalone movies with main characters or a lot of cheap slop, but not release expensive movies in slop numbers.
fantasy and superheroes have been around for tens of thousands of years. i don't see it getting old anytime soon
>its another moron pretends superheroes are ancient episode
Epic of FRICKING Gilgamesh, bro.
Ah yes, the most heroic of acts. Mass rape.
This but unironically.
how's this rape if they seem to want it?
They didn't want it at first, but then they succumbed to the pleasure and got addicted to it. That's how NTR works. It's like stockholm syndrome, but with sex.
I don't read: the comment
How long have movies been around?
How long has the internet been around?
Shut the frick up with your absolute non contribution of a comment.
wrong board, mate
Wrong board
Fake image, all top left 3 are from konosuba
>it's the same generic town each time
damn that's actually a really good joke
Nope
The last anime I ever watched was Kill La Kill when it was airing
Watch Space Dandy.
Space Dandy is the newest anime that I enjoyed. I keep hoping Watanabe will shit out at least one more kino before he dies or retires still waiting.
Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo 2 never ever.
This makes me realize how little games tend to follow the '3-4 people go on a trip' formula anymore. FFXV is the only one I can think of recently and that was... Okay, I guess. Had some really cool shit with the traveling and cooking and stuff that was very cozy, but the main story was weak.
Why do games try and be massive setpieces just over and over? Let me just wander a new land, explore it and get into trouble with a bro or two.
bebop has such a neat setting, it irritates me to no end that so many try to emulate it but they never bother getting the setting right
I enjoy it simply for the fact that it just 'is' which is an incredibly rare thing in jap media because they have some kind of pathological need to overexplain everything. In Bebop the characters go to some moon or planet or asteroid and except for some explicit detail or two that is naturally relevant to the plot of the episode they don't start rattling off a wikipedia entry about Europa or Mars or whatever. You gleam what you can from the story told and just enjoy it for what it is then the show moves on. It sounds simple but 99 out of 100 anime series can't accomplish that.
And the bits of worldbuilding that are explained don't overstay their welcome, like 'oh yeah earth is a shithole cause the company that runs the hyperspace lanes accidentally blew up the moon'
>Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo 2
why the frick would you want that? besides nujabes is dead
Because it was a fun show? And Nujabes wasn't the only musician on the score.
People wanting sequels to shit that had definitive endings are half the problem with the entertainment industry.
Yes.
But Samurai Champloo's ending was anything but definitive, that's exactly why I want more.
what do you mean it was not definitive? the arcs for all three characters were complete
Main girl found the man that smells like sunflowers. Jin and Mugen had resolutions to their storylines. It's ogre, anon. Just because everyone didn't die doesn't mean it wasn't definitive.
was pleasantly surprised that no one died actually. both mugen and jin gave off huge "gonna die" vibes. The ending was still rather melancholic
Cowboy bebop is an anomaly made by a japanese guy that decided to make a western. you'll probably never see something similar again.
I'll never ever understand why people like that anime. I dropped it when it was airing and later I picked it up because my friend kept gushing about it for years. But it was bad, all the way through. It didn't even try to take its story seriously either, it was like a children's cartoon with no continuity and it wasn't even funny.
>brain fried loregay completely consoomed by the need for LORE and CONTINUITY that he actively rejects episodic shows for being different
Good for you hope you've moved on from seething about it.
I mean it was just annoying. IIRC it was the zombie episode that had some kind of a bad end. So pointless and not even funny.
>Good animation, good music
Not at all imo, I didn't like Panty either but I haven't seen that cop show. I guess this is just one of those genres that I don't understand the appeal of even though I'm pretty open minded to anime and film in general. I don't like TV series though.
>Not at all imo
That's genuinely not something you can argue. To say space Dandy didn't have good animation is saying you're either moronic or blind.
Good animation, good music, didn't take itself seriously, it was just fun like Panty and Stocking or Inferno Cop.
neither did I, bro, so I just fell back to watching samurai champloo and cowboy bebop
Filtered
I watched the entire thing.
Well different strokes for different blokes i guess. I liked it precisely because it didnt take itself serious. I think it appeals to people with meme autism (not real autism)
It's not like I need anime to take itself seriously but the way it felt like an American cartoon really turned me off. It's not like I'm anti-fun or whatever, something like Cromartie or whatever is random XD and goofy too but that was actually funny.
I almost did. I think i dropped it on episode 10 (when the furry goes back to his family) or something. the characters, stories and the setting were simply not compelling to me, unlike in sc or cb. I also didn't dig the music. i still listen to sc and cb, and sc open a whole range of new artists to me. sd was like a fart in the wind music-wise
>sc or cb
Dunno what those are
samurai champloo and cowboy bebop, my brother
Ah yeah. Why would you compare those those kinos to Dandy though?
same director
Holy shit I had no idea, no wonder there are fanboys then. How is such a thing possible? HOW? What an insane fall from grace.
This is like the Death Note guy's angel anime, holy shit that was bad while Death Note was pretty good.
Its not the same director, he was merely advisor on Dandy.
That being said, not liking dandy is pretty poor taste
>he was merely advisor on Dandy
that makes me feel a bit better for not liking it
Did you like megalobox? Thats a good one reminiscient of bebop in some ways.
I like golden kamui a lot too
It’s one of those Reddit shows for people who like le randumb
The humor is hit or miss, but I liked the creative spirit of Spacy Dandy. For me there's no cooler idea than the thought of voyaging through the endless void of space with a couple of bros and getting into weird and absurd situations. It's such a particular vibe but so few examples of it. I see it as sort of similar in premise to cowboy bebop but more light hearted. I see why people wouldn't like it but for me its one my all time favs.
I'm so sorry
Honestly a really solid anime to stop watching. The guy who made it hasn’t been able to match the quality of any of his previous works anyways, besides Space Patrol Luluco which came close
I watched Devilman Crybaby (it's fine, simultaneously overrated and overhated, not as good as the manga) but otherwise I've been in a time chamber only watching stuff from the 20th century, mostly mecha.
Take the retropill anons. If you see a modern anime that looks actually good feel free to watch it, but don't force yourself to watch FotM seasonal trash when there's sixty years of good anime you can watch instead
more anime was produced in the last 13 years than the 50 years before that
Well KLK is awesome and one of the very few worthwile modern anime, so you left on an high note
KLK is laughably bad
You jerkoffs see any animation that's not a slideshow and cream your pants, it's embarassing
KLK is mediocre and it's not even modern, you autist.
I can't never stand that bowl-cut girl in that show.
>heroes have been part of human cultures since cilivilzation
uh never.
Dude, Gilgamesh and Hercules are the same thing as cape shit made for consoomers because uhhhh, they just are ok?!?
Digital anime = garbage
I dunno you homosexuals always wanted more Ivalice Final Fantasy over something original seen in FF7,8,15
FF7s world outside of Midgar is boring as frick
FF8s world could be interesting but its not explored properly so it feels lime a bunch of loosely connected locations (what the frick do you mean the centra ceased existing only 80 years ago?)
FF15s world is boring as frick again even though some core ideas could have made it interesting
I'll take any flavor of ivalice or valisthea over them
>FF15s world is boring as frick again
because it's like one modern city, a bunch of gas stations + diner, and a lot of desert.
One of the most boring and lack of variety open worlds I have seen in a game.
Not to mention, frickall to do in XV
Normies never get sick of generic medieval fantasy. They've never been exposed to other settings like alt-fantasy, urban fantasy, sci-fantasy.
It's the ultimate goyslop: they see elven archers and dragons, and they clap because they recognize product.
Shonen fatigue is a thing, yes
I don't think it is. They just replace one shonen with another and shonengays gobble it up.
I meant for normies.
Anime fan will always eat what's next in line, but that's their thing.
please tell me moron how would you protect a city from rapey goblins, orcs, all sorts of beasts and pests? Ow and occasional siege by humans?
Japs are creatively bankrupt
The king
I'd be fine with dark fantasy but we all know japs can't deliver on that front.
Fantasy will never go out of style. People will simply adapt different flavors of fantasy.
Interestingly enough there's very few games using this sort of generic medieval fantasy world that isekai anime abuses. I'd love a game that's pretty much set in one of those worlds. Let me take quests from an adventurer's guild and go grind some dungeons. Frick all this obsession with muh story.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is coming.
I know. It's about the closest we get to that type of game these days.
It's not.
Then give me bronze age fantasy like Conan.
If a game has elves, magic or swords then I won't play it. Not sure if I hate the fantasy genre but I know I hate the things I listed.
Did they really use the exact same city design 3 times? Were these anime done by the same company?
Why are japs sl obsessed with Fantasy yet they can't create a unique city?
why are westerners obsessed with fantasy but can only copy warcraft and tolken?
I don't think Witcher copies either anon.
It copies Elric of Melnibone
The books maybe but as for vidya Witcher became it's own thing.
>poles
>western
Uh yeah they're European.
Nope they're semitic-turkish halfbreeds with some German and Russian sprinkled in
You've just described modern day germany.
Why are weebs like this?
have you tried adventuring outside of your bubble?
But warcraft is Warhammer ripoff
FF16s cities are actually interesting looking but you cant walk around in them lol
This city is ugly and must be 1 nightmare to navigate in lmao.
>nightmare to navigate
It fricking is in lotro.
>what is Alcamoth
>what is Alexandria
>what is Altissia
>what is Archades
>what is Bevelle
>what is Bhujerba
>what is the Crystalline Dominion
>what is Eden
>what is Etrenank
>what is Esthar
>what is Fonsa Myma
>what is the Forgotten Capital
>what is the Frontier Village
>what is Gridania
>what is Limsa Lominsa
>what is Lindblum
>what is Insomnia
>what is Ishgard
>what is Junon
>what is Midgar
>what is New Los Angeles
>what is Oriflamme
>what is Ul'dah
>what is Zanarkand
>lists FIVE (5) FFXIV cities
you're replying to a FF homosexual that is.
His argument would be stronger if he excluded those five cities.
He should auction off the cum chalice. I bet some lolcow aficionado would pay decent money for the cum chalice.
>>what is Insomnia
a linear hallway mess you never properly visit until the final chapter and then the lamest final dungeon in THE SERIES that had to fixed in DLC
every location in kinoblade is better than lord of the slop
not a hard thing to do.
Lords of the Fallen 2014 looked like ass and the reboot looks the same
>vertical cities in medieval times
How do they carry food and resources to the top?
by donkeys
Isekai is for complete losers
perfect for you then how nice.
Too bad Japan is full of those as their anime will forever stagnate to capture the attention of these losers.
Yes, unironically. The whole point is someone who feels completely at a loss of what their life should be getting a second chance at being competent and happy.
>Isekai is for complete losers
agreed, same shit but with a different coat of pain every time
ignore the fact that someone put a non-isekai Harem (Infinite Stratos) in this image for some reason, it's still a shit show anyway
Harem is always for autistic loosers, however there's nothing wrong with isekai by itself.
Anime/Manga-homosexuals are just sticking to same moronic plot every time and it's shit. Which is true for most anime genres (shitty copy-pasta writing I mean).
>Harem is always for autistic loosers
and Ganker lops that shit up
>there's nothing wrong with isekai by itself
It is almost by definition wish fulfillment. There's no practical reason for it to be "isekai" instead of just "fantasy" other than to appeal to self-inserters. I've seen a lot of isekai and the MC being from Earth almost never has any actual imoact on the story. You could skip the "reborn with x special ability" aspect of the premise and it would not change the plot (lmao) in any appreciable manner.
I think they do that to force a values contrast (with an "enlightened" protagonist who says free market economics > everything), or to avoid having to explain the outsider protag's home setting in addition to the new one.
You're ignoring the fact that every isekai protagonist has deeply intimate knowledge of all things modern including, but not limited to, policy, engineering, strategy/tactics, psychology, economics, biology, etc. which they use to great effect.
>i was just a normal highschool student, except i spent an unhealthy amount of time reading about laws and economics so i had absolutely no friends or human interaction, now i'm in a fantasy world where everyone is a sub 50 IQ barbarian as the son of a chieftain
sounds kino, when are you publishing your webnovel on kyosetsu?
you do know that alice in wonderland is isekai right
and so is a connecticut yankee in king arthurs court
Alice in Wonderland is a kid's story. It's main appeal is the Seuss-esque rhymes and made up words and the world-building from them, not its narrative structure nor the exploration of Alice, as a character.
but it's not wish-fulfilment, proving you wrong. Also you ignored the other example.
Don't care to debate about your other pseud musings.
Time travel is not isekai. It may have a similar feel, but it's not a different world.
>sekai=world=the world=this world
>isekai=not world=not this world=other world
Sorry, but a world you never lived in is a different world in theory especially since you can interact with and change it.
he's right though. if we count time travel as isekai, then back to the future is one too
By that logic Cast Away is an isekai.
I wrote up a whole thing thinking you wrote "Spirited Away" but I realized I was really tired sorry anon!
Men can have a waifu or two.
>Time travel is not isekai.
disagree, but Alice is still isekai, and its not wish fulfilment, so you're wrong either way.
alice is not isekai, it's just an extasy trip
>disagree
elaborate
>Alice is isekai
Yes, I wasn't arguing that, which is why I didn't mention it. 142 unique IPs
>elaborate
King Arthur's Court is not a real historical place. Therefore it's fantasy, making that book isekai by any definition.
>142 unique IPs
It's all me
I understand what you're getting at, but iirc it is the real past in-universe for the story. As such it is the same world, even if the future gets altered by the time traveler's actions. However if it is mirror universe/parallel timeline stuff then I would concede that it is isekai.
>Alice in Wonderland isn't this chink genre that wouldn't be invented for another hundred years when the story was written
You don't say, homosexual.
Romans were still gay even though we didn't come up with a label until later homo, sorry the asiatic bug men made a name for something faster than you (Portal Fantasy? what a gay name)
It's not an isekai but I do appreciate you speaking from experience about historical representation of your homolust.
I just wanna say that took you a long time to check your phone from work, are you okay
I guess Narnia is wish fulfillment or at least escapism, but the fact that it's an isekai is integral and ripples throughout the mythos of the land of Narnia. It's a very interesting way to use the genre.
>however there's nothing wrong with isekai by itself.
Isekais, structurally, are rotten to their core. Fundamentally they are about a character abandoning his challenges in life to go be overpowered in a completely unrelated setting. It's a graveyard for character arcs because the main character refuses to grow and is merely living out a power fantasy. Isekais are a chink daydream away from their work-riddled, not a valid story structure.
surprised these mid 2000s goon takedowns of anime are still popular
Ganker really is sheltered
You're thinking of power fantasies which most isekai is shit because that's all they amount to
Frieren is better
Trash anime. Sympathetic chuds
Elves are shit
I like the ending more
Overrated but glad it's not an isekai
that music sure does scream fantasy adventure
>flavor of the month
Is a precious idiom English taught me.
Its genuinely among the lowest of the low in effort and creativity since so much is done for you already. That as well as feudal japan, three kingdoms china, and vikingshit, and greek/romanshit.
VGH, muh big French/German inspired walled city, home...
The situation is actually far worse than people think.
D&D is now insanely popular with zoomers and companies are starting to catch on, pushing it as the next big thing.
E-celebs like Asmongolid has fantasy brainrot and can only these types of games
Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 are two of the biggest games of the last decade. Skyrim refuses to keep selling.
Bethesda's next big game is TESVI
EA is betting Bioware's future on Dragon Age 4
CDPR has an entire new Witcher trilogy planned
Bargain bin trash like Lords of the Fallen can sell 1 million copies in a week simply by being a fantasy soulslike.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is taking inspiration from GTAV and aims to be a massive mainstream hit.
Rockstar themselves have been rumored to be working on their own Grand Theft Dragon for years.
We are about to hit creative bankruptsy levels previously not thought possible.
>Dragon's Dogma 2 is taking inspiration from GTAV
You're referring to Itsuno praising GTA V for the world feeling alive and specifically independent of player action. Things happen without the player forcing it, like spontaneous police chases, shootouts, animals running into roads etc. He probably wants to recreate that feeling in DD2.
Hope he's looked at RDR 1 and 2 for inspiration as well
Althought maybe not for quest design cause holy shit RDR 2 drops the ball hard there mainly with how overly scripted and intolerant of doing anything but exactly what the quest designer wanted you to do
Why are people still not understanding that DD2 is a remake?
It's literally a fricking remake. Nothing is going to change, it's just going to look prettier. It's the same bosses, the same fights, the same areas.
>same tired discord template doomposy
yaaaaawwwwn
>RDR 2 drops the ball hard there mainly with how overly scripted and intolerant of doing anything but exactly what the quest designer wanted you to do
Fricking finally! I thought i was insane because i dropped RDR2 very early on for this exact reason. It felt way more railroaded compared to the original. You'd get a "Mission Failed" screen for walking slightly in a different direction than the quest wanted you to. I noticed it very early in and stopped playing because of that. But when i mention this to other people they always acted like im delusional
Why did you feel the need to reiterate the same point but longer?
doesn't matter the theme. all these things could be amazing, they re not good because they re trash and if it was another theme it still would be trash. play good games, pirate dogshit, buy good stuff, or dont complain about art quality suka
Sounds terrible. Lukily I won't play ay of those. Maybe except DD2, in time
Name one recent game where you can explore a large city like that
Witcher 3 loI. You actually explore 2 cities.
W3 is almost 10 years old, it's not recent
To be Hero was pretty good
To be Heroind was dog shit
chinks ruin everything
Any good anime come out this year?
Spy X Family S2
Anything that isn't moeshit?
It just says "No anime have been announced yet for Spring 2023"
See the url? Change the part that says "fall-2023" for any other season to see all anime that came out this year! You can even change the year and you'll see, shockingly, all the anime that came out in PAST years!
Just check anichart
Jujutsu Kaisen, Vinland Saga, Hell's Paradise, Heavenly Delusion, Undead Murder Farce, Frieren, Undead Unluck, The Boy and the Heron, Pluto (soon), Sand Land (soon)
Unusually strong year tbh.
>Jujut
Stopped reading and you should stop posting.
I don't care what you think. You're not too smart for action movies and well-made battle anime.
all of these sound like boring complex drama.
Any brainless comedy or action for people with 2 digit iq like me?
Don't say one piece or boruto.
There's Emience in the Shadow. Season 2 came out and it's a dumb isekai where a guy literally uses nuke magic.
>Emience in the Shadow
will watch, thanks
>Eiyuuou, Bu wo Kiwameru Tame Tenseisu
male to female trans, not interested
>Tensei ken
female protag, not interested
>Isekai One Turn Kill Neesan
this better have incest
>S-rank musume
Sounds like 2 digit iq kino, thanks
>What's wrong with one piece you bigot?
Anime sucks, read the mango
>Jujutsu is literally right up your alley.
Ok, I'll give jujutsu a try
>Sounds like 2 digit iq kino, thanks
It seems really dumb. I think I finished episode 1 and the father let his 12 year old noob adventurer leave home alone lmao.
Not expecting much from it.
Mashle
Kage no Jitsuryokusha ni Naritakute
Eiyuuou, Bu wo Kiwameru Tame Tenseisu
Tensei ken
Isekai One Turn Kill Neesan
S-rank musume
What's wrong with one piece you bigot?
What's the matter, don't like kino?
Jujutsu Kaisen and Hell's Paradise are both simple enough stories with frequent well-directed action. Demon's Slayer is another ongoing show from this year, but some of its shonen tropes may turn you off.
I watced like 6 episodes of Jujutsu Kaisen but it wasn't for me. Strong "this is a generic: the shonen" vibes. Does it get better?
Most agree S2 is better. I'm only 6 episodes in but it's a definite improvement.
S1 slumps while they do a typical shonen style competition.
>tfw that guy SPOILER ALERT dies
it was at this point I realized that this anime kinda sucks.
Demon slayer is so fricking shit. Fortunately I got my eye candy from heaven's feel already and didn't have to sit through this insulting garbage
Jujutsu is literally right up your alley.
Mashle is forgettable but very straight forward and entertaining
>Any brainless comedy or action for people with 2 digit iq like me?
Forget every other recommendation. watch Ninja Slayer instead
they're all bad
>I watched 10 bad shows this year
Are you moronic?
they're all bad because I dropped all of them. It's that simple.
But you started watching 7 bad shows, 1 bad movie and 2 unrealised bad projects this year alone... you have terrible instincts.
Dark Gathering
Hells paradise was great. The villains are magic yoga trannies that can turn into monsters.
It'll be good if season 2 can redeem its fricking awful writing. If season 2 confirms that everyone sent to the island was hand selected to be there then that's fine but if not then it's just moronic
>If season 2 confirms that everyone sent to the island was hand selected to be there then that's fine but if not then it's just moronic
Why does that matter? S1 made it pretty clear both the criminals and their prison guards are pretty much equally disposable.
I'm never getting tired of fantasy kino.
You realize whatever replaces it will be even worse right
>You realize whatever replaces it will be even worse right
What could possibly actually be more generic and boilerplate to actually qualify though? Nothing else is even remotely as established in the zeitgheist. It needs to be something that everyone knows and recognizes.
Fantasy isekai is fricking kino and I'm tired of pretending it's not
t. Sexless loser that isekai harem shit panders to.
European medieval fantasy will always be the king
Anime thread?
One thing old GoW doesn't get enough credit for is just being an actual fricking proper greek fantasy game. Which you would think would be more common but is actually very rare outside of the occasional minotaur and gorgon enemy.
The devs talked about how early in development it was more of a typical medieval fare with Kratos as a more standard barbarian, but they quickly decided the style was just too generic and overdone to be exciting, so somebody suggested greek mythology. I guess Nordic mythology was a logical next step, but too much of that is already present in standard fantasy to be as cool and exciting.
too bad they're shit games
GoW2 is a masterpiece troony
beat em ups from the super nintendo have better gameplay
imo, God of War has the same problem Gears of War had. It might've in its day been a pillar for a genre (action beat em ups, and cover shooters respectively), but both got instantly outdone by more refined games with more unique ideas, so they end up falling into generic mediocrity.
I always think of this as the Halloween problem: that was a revolutionary film and birthed the slasher genre, but the entire theater at a college screening I attended was laughing throughout because every single thing in it had become a trope and cliche.
They chose Norse mythology for the next step because they saw how popular Skyrim was, and saw the trend early so they jumped on it.
I like that they actually used norse mythology though most vidya/movies that use norse mythology just use it as set dressing, nu gow had an interesting take on the fantasy races and was actually about travelling the nine realms
>GoW doesn't get enough credit for is just being an actual fricking proper greek tragedy game
ftfy
Normal people have the agency of picking the flavors of escapism they are willing to indulge themselves in and don't feel the schizophrenic need to consume content ad nauseam out of some weird obligation, like the average Gankertard.
Oh who am I kidding, Gankertards don't play video games.
Starfield taught me that I prefer Fantasy to Sci-Fi still. Skyrim was much more enjoyable.
Doesn't help that shartfield is a dogshit game at its core.
Also it's easier to do fantasy, because most of these companies just have to copy Tolkien and its derivatives (dnd, warhammer, warcraft) with a couple tweaks, whereas sci-fi doesn't have such an obvious blueprint and requires actual creativity.
Starfield has no soul because it has nothing to rip off.
skyrim was also a dogshit game at its core, the only reason it survived was mods and some dlc. the same thing will happen with starfield.
bethesda hasn't made a single good game, it's just taken people this long to realize it
skyrim's open world and graphical design were incredible in 2011. tes lore backing it up also helped
starfield's huge open world isn't impressive by today's standards and the game isn't technically impressive. the world is uninspired (space un, space texas, space emil pagliarulo cultists, bandits). why would modders move onto starfield? what does it offer over skyrim?
>starfield's huge open world
I feel like calling it an open world of any sort is being far too generous
Even though a lot of thing about Oblivion was shit, I still prefer it over many things for the fantasy atmosphere.
I don't think I will ever like post-apocalyptic or sci-fi setting
>unarmored horse
What are you, poor?
Spend the ten Ben
Agreed. Sci-fi sounds cool in theory but it always feels really hollow to me in the end. I think absurd dreamscapes end up capturing the sense of infinite scale and endless possibilities far better than space/sci-fi does. The idea of limitless space and civilizations that are entirely foreign sounds cool but it alway seems to fall flat and feel uninteresting, at least imo
Fantasy will only die when it's entirely modern USA politics in diverse homosexual fantasy Europe.
Why is fantasy always stuck in high-late medieval? Rarely there can be antiquitydark ages but where is early modern period or later? Early modern period was even more about exploration and discoveries, perfect for adventure. It can go straight to urban fantasy after medieval only.
I just want more centaurs and fantasy races. I'm tired of dwarves and elves and to a lesser extent lizardmen.
You can't imagine how happy I was to see a centaur in the new season of Goblin Slayer, even if she's a waitress with no lines.
I think the reason medieval fantasy works is because of a lack of oppressing overarching rules and protocol and government, providing freedom, while still having *some* semblance of society where you can get things you wouldn't be able to get on your own, like say clothes or weapons.
As in, you get a bunch of people, and slaughter the orcs with the weapons you got from doing some quests.
Crucially, you also get the benefit of firearms not being invented so your character's can use swords and other melee weapons.
The wild west has all those characteristics too, but there are far fewer games and anime set in those days because weapons take a lot of mysticism out of the setting.
The top two are both from konosuba.
Fantasy works because it's so straightforward. Everyone from age of 5 up understands what a dragon is, what a knight is and what a king is.
Combine these archetypes, add made up names and you are ready.
It's like asking when are people going to get fed up of eating bread or bacon, since they're so basic.
>Fantasy works because it's so straightforward. Everyone from age of 5 up understands what a dragon is, what a knight is and what a king is.
>Combine these archetypes, add made up names and you are ready.
This, fantasy is ultimately just another step in the childification of entertainment. A mental retreat to a simpler world that's familiar and easy to understand.
I LOVE fantasy and I'm glad that fantasy is big again. Only problem is that 99% of it is shit. No problem. Keep pumping out fantasy for me until you get it right, world.
No, fantasy (including high fantasy, low fantasy, dark fantasy) is the best setting for gaming possible. For film, TV, and literature, historical (and alternate historical) as well as modern day settings edge it out, but for gaming fantasy reigns supreme. It’s just way too comfy and makes the most sense for incorporating environments that are actually fun to play in as well as mechanics/systems that are enjoyable. Sci fi is fricking gay, but every now and then a developer is confident enough to make a great sci fi game.
I love fantasy thoughever perchance
>tranime
Only for brainlets like OP
>like superheroes
>Radical Entertainment makes a Hulk game with mild success
>Radical Entertainment comes up with Prototype which uses a lot of the Hulk gameplay, Sucker Punch comes up with Infamous
>Activision fricks over Radical Entertainment and then shuts them down, Sucker Punch doesn't make a single game for years until they come up with Ghost of Tsushima which is another genre
It barely even lasted dude, closest shit you're gonna get is Spiderman
Fantasy is the less tiring possible genre due to how ecletic it can be
Boring, regurgitated generic settings made by hack authors and devs are bad, however
Never. The further we get away from medieval times and the romance of adventure the more people will long for it.
how does Ganker do it? despit- wait
I'm like 4 episodes into Demon Slayer. It's rather well animated and violent, all things I enjoy. Are you telling me it gets bad?
it's a good show
I like it but there are some things that rub people the wrong way. It's written by a woman and that becomes REALLY obvious with the side characters and why every character cries every episode. It is unashamed to wear very worn shonen tropes on your sleeve. Pacing can get kinda plodding in the later seasons. If Tanjiro and Nezuko's relationship doesn't do anything for you the the show will get uninteresting real quick. Main antagonist has been written a thousand times before to the point where you can't even see him as a real character. The show kind of just drops its subplot about demons being human and Tanjiro giving them forgiveness in the latesr season and looks to continue that way for the rest of the series.
No, it just never evolves past that. It's just a lot of animation but no real substance. The characters never change, grow or have any real identity beyond the one trope they are.
This is why I liked the Gothic games so much. You just kinda go places and dick around. No weird explanations, no long-winded monologues, no rules.
I preferred season 1 a lot, felt like it was a much more polished and thought out product even if the story was much simpler and it was much more 'straightforward shonen' then. The fights are all memorable and extremely well directed and scored, whereas we've had a bunch of really big fights in season 2 and the only good one so far has been the one in the last episode with Choso and Yuji. The OST in the first season is insanely good.
It's just made for morons who need every single thing over explained to them. You will enjoy the fight scenes because every time a character swings there weapon the fight will pause so they can monologue they swung their weapon. Also you'll be in tears laughing at how funny it is when people yell!
Yes that sounds like an anime.
I hate fantasy so much. Frick all gays who constantly gobble down the same swords, magic, dragons, orcs, and all that gay shit. Frick you sincerely. Fantasy is the ultimate slop, even more than capeshit
>Shield Hero
>Konosuba
its literally the same fricking image
To get sick of fantasy is to be sick of a hope. Sci-Fi is death.
>To get sick of fantasy is to be sick of a hope. Sci-Fi is death.
Only because you gave up, you stopped fighting for the future.
The more people stop dreaming about the future, the more they will retreat into a fantastical past of ogres and witches.
There's no bigger example of this than Tolkien, who depicted the old world as beautiful and good, and industrialization as the great evil. Nowadays everyone feels like Tolkien, people dont want to face reality or think about the future, so they escape to fantasy.
wtf, bottom right looks fun as frick
>vote policies that ruin their future
>still complain
Not my problem.
>industrialization as the great evil.
Because it is
>comparing marvel capeshit to fantasy as a genre
You gotta be some high level consumerist homosexual to hate fantasy that much
it just needs a better plot, Freiren has been the peak fantasy manga for a while now and it got an anime adaptation recent, the plot is just ''go defeat the demon lord'' but it adds a lot of melancholy because the protagonist is an undying elf who lost her parter because humans die early, the same is about superhero fatigue, there wasnt a fatigue with guardians of the galaxy 3 because it was just that good, you just need a good story, that alone overpowers fatigue
But ain't the point of fantasy to bring something new and exciting to the table?
Anyway, any other series like Log Pose or Realist Hero? Where a guy brings boring pragmatism into a fantasy world?
>Where a guy brings boring pragmatism into a fantasy world?
Copium. They have fantasy economy and politics in anime anyway so you cant tell if characters making any sense with that gibberish they are proposing. So their "pragmatism" works same way as any other isekai superpower.
I dislike "Smart guy protags".
It always has the issue where, in order to make the smart guy work, you have to make other characters dumber or less observant by contrast. By the end of the show, you have to wonder if the cast is moronic, or if they've just outsourced all thought to "smart guy".
Why didn't X or Y group adopt this clearly-superior means of accomplishing Z, possible using only tools already available to them? Because the smart guy wasn't there to put the pieces together.
Why don't they, after having seen this guy's revolutionary tactics, re-examine their theories?
Because the smart guy patented "thoughtful application of [technique]".
It really feels like author-wank when the main distinguishing feature of his protagonist is that he introduced his high school engineering passion project to the setting, as well.
Maybe I'll make a story about a guy who attached a spring-winder to a cart and managed to perfect the crossbow-reloading process in a way much more expensive than just keeping one more guy around to reload crossbows would.
Maybe I'll make a story where I tell everyone you can run frickhuge amounts of steam through a precisely-machined chassis to automate artisans out of business.
Maybe I'll make a story where my enemies (dumb) grew taxable grains that suited their climate instead of all growing cash crops and outsourcing food production so they can just buy their way to prosperity (lol).
And it'll work, too, because the author thinks it's just the greatest idea ever.
>Record of Lodoss War btfos every single one of those shows
>off topic weeb thread isn't deleted yet
WAKE UP JANNIES WAKE UP JANNIES WAKE UP JANNIES
here's your vidya-related isekai city, anon (taken from first search result, sorry)
shame that game sucks ass
I remember when fantasy was casting a fireball and lightning and the game that could do that the most epic way was the best.
I think cheap fantasy is so easy bc these construction sets let you do open world out the box, so it wont go anywhere. Bit once a company does hard fantasy justice again it's a wrap.
Thanks OP, I feel the same. I'm fed up of the same settings, the same tropes, the same monsters, the same stories.
Medieval place with green orcs, archer elves, blacksmith dwarves, knights,etc...
Or people in tight spacesuits and fishbowl helmets shooting lasers using not-lightsabers in all kinds of ships with gravity.
OK, I GET IT
CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING MORE CREATIVE PLEASE???
Isekae fatigue is. Friends still keep recommending me Isekae harem power fantasy series with reskinned Kiritos for the protagonists.
VGH
Gondolin kino
Why are they all Ankh-Morpork?
>The Trump
nani
You know, I think DiscworldMUD is probably the only game in existance that made a city the size of Ankh-Morpork not only entirely to scale, but fully interactable, too. To a stupid level of detail that every single room as dozens of details for you to investigate.
And then you realize Ankh-Morpork is maybe 15% of the whole game. Man, I really wish MUDs didn't die off. There was so much potential...
Ack-Morpork has too much soul to compare it to isekai slop
AM in DiscworldMUD has not been topped to this day. Most detailed city in history.
Imagine we had a modern game like Cyberpunk with every facet of the city fully interactive and explorable like AM.
Never, capeshit is americ*n and modern while fantasy is universal and preceed superheroes by centuries.
Not really fantasy fatigue but definitly open world fatigue. Played ER, TotK, Genshin and BotW and then recently replaying FFXII felt like a breather just because the map is more compressed.
It's literally the perfect setting for an MMO
I have not read it and it looks generic, so no
why do seanigs love isekai so much?
can't you see?!
They literally fantasize all day about escaping their 100hr a week white-collar life. Cheap, fast, easy-to-consume slop encompasses the few areas in which they have autonomy: from their food, their entertainment, their relationship, and their hobbies. It's hell being a bug and the cultural shame from suicide is just high enough to stop them from ending it (most of the time).
how do they shitpost so much if they have a 100hr work week then?
just because you have toi be in the office a 100 hours a week doesn't mean that you have to work
I will never understand the obsession with isekai and making their protagonists stupidly overpowered as soon as possible. Can weebs not relate to someone who isn’t literally them or has to put in the slightest bit of effort into getting what he wants?
It's likely because, once you've watched enough shonen, seeing the "get stronger montage" doesn't really mean anything. Everyone knows power scaling is purely a matter of the author's whims, and "I worked hard for X" is a self-gratifying call used more to cover objections than a meaningful phrase on its own.
nta but it's not that I need to see them train it's that they just rape everything easily, this is fine when it's the point but too many times the first arc there will be actual tension to reel you in and then the rest is the protagonist facerolling with no stakes or tension and every new character no matter how special just becomes a spectator there to provide reactions to the MC's one sided fights.
>every new character no matter how special just becomes a spectator there to provide reactions to the MC's one sided fights.
I think the worst and most blatant example i ever saw of this was Solo Leveling. Forget how far i made it before dropping it, but it quickly became 0 stakes, MC is the most powerful being in the known universe and everyone wants to be his ally and every girl wants to suck him off and also he can fly and levitate through walls and even Jessica likes him and CHAD cant bully him anymore and...
Yeah that's my main issue with Solo Leveling
They reveal the japanese guys that are all just as strong if not stronger than the koreans, but it doesn't matter since the MC is already leagues above both
hard work and pulling yourself up from failure is too stressful for Ganker
>do weebs
You do understand that anime is made by Japanese people, for Japanese people, right?
Aint no fricking way they used the exact same map on Shield Hero and Konosuba and nobody noticed.
>mfw no good sword and sorcery vidya
I fricking hate medievalslop
Japan will recycle Wizardry until the heat death of the universe. Not a single original concept.
I-is that a... a fortified city built around a river b-bend? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME Black personMAN I'M GONG INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE
Your issue is not with fantasy but with the uninspired derivative slop nips and westerners produce in equal quantities as a result of their bad consuming habits.
Something worth remembering is that Tolkien wasn't like your modern day turbonerds: He studied lenguage and had a good grasp on mythology, ethnology, history and even theology. He was first and foremost a nerd of the real world and real spirituality, which in turn informed the fantasy he produced.
The same is true for Howard, for Lewis, for Dunsany and even Gene Wolfe: in all cases we see men soaked in real knowledge and real heritage creating worlds that communicate real truths throught fiction. This couldn't be more distant from the present nerds and authors, that largely have no grasp or interest in history and mythology, and therefore no grasp on the trascendental truths that make fantasy worth reading/playing.
Spot on analysis.
Would you, therefore, suggest modern authors to revisit old stories more instead of recycling Lotr/Star Wars/etc?
Yes, absolutely. Good fantasy only comes from appreciation of the real world, with its peoples, histories and religions. Authors need to get out and have contact with tradition and organic culture in order to produce works rooted in the trascendental.
Of course, that's precisely the difficult part: There is not much organic culture left in our world.
Culture isn't organic.
In the sense that it appears out of nowhere, or that it is inmune to external influence? Of course not, and at the end it is also a very mutable thing.
See, the problem is that our western modernity has been the result of open social engineering that commodifies everything it touches. The trascendental values that cultures used to have are devoured by the modern machine with nothing left to replace them. It is far, far more artificial than any nation-building project from the human past.
Uncle Ted warned us. Ellul warned us. Humanity is being consumed by forces far greater than any one individual or institution.
You will call me a christcuck schizo (and I am!) but I unironically believe it's demons.
>Uncle Ted warned us
a visionary and a prophet. i hope he's chilling in heaven
That's true and all, but oceans of slop can also banalize the concept.
Now I'm tired by default by this concept, if not fantasy in general. Just as I would be tired by default with a superhero movie, even if done right for once.
That's fair anon. I would recommend you read Gene Wolfe Book of the New Sun, tho, if you want genuinely imaginative sci-fantasy with depth and quality.
>STOP
>LIKING
>ISEKAI
>remakes your slop less than 20 years later
>not even HD
>all examples of KINO isekai are western
glorious nippon bros...
>Bing Crosby
Huh?
Funny name that you just saw for the first time champ? He's a legendary dancing man on the silver screen.
This story popularized the lie that knights needed special machinery to even get on their horses, so it will be always shitlisted for me.
Mark Twain was a blue blooded city boy for sure, just have the horse kneel down for you like anything else would so you can sit atop it. Hell, historians used to argue if the stirrup started the medieval era!
According to some, he was a very conflicted about the time period: On one hand Twain seemed horrified not just with medieval brutality, but the medieval mindset about war in general, including chivarly and the ease medieval literature handles violence. At the same time however he was Joan of Arc biggest fan, and couldn't stop obsessing over her to a point in which everyone noticed his deep infatuation.
A very peculiar character, really.
>adventurers have a guild
every fricking time
Often nips seem to suffer from a strong impulse of turning everything special or fantastical into something mundane. The fact that they seem to like adventure as a "job" is grim.
That's depressing. Japan mindset seems really fricking dismal to me as an outsider. I guess in the end we all suffer. But it feel like they made themselves miserable, even more than other modern socieites
Turns out having a utopia where everything works perfectly and there's no petty crime and everyone is super nice means that everyone is going to be tired and depressed as frick.
Still, on average, I bet they're a lot happier than the average imbecile in the UK or US.
>Turns out having a utopia
You've been meme'd heavily if you really believe this. They have good things going for them but also a very oppresive culture and a bunch of moronic customs. It's not heaven on earth. Also they may be more polite due to the autistic focus on manners and such, but that doesn't mean everyone is nice. A lot of Japanese are extremely superficial and plastic, imagine everyone being entirely fake and insincere at all times.
>I bet they're a lot happier than the average imbecile in the UK or US
Maybe, but i wouldn't assume it as true without serious investigation. Each has serious pros and also cons
The fact that kids with curly or non-black hair need to do paperwork in order to not be forced to dye it black should be enough to realize how fricked up under the surface nip culture is. Anons unironically think that anime is somehow a reflection of their mindset and not a deliberate, commercial rebellion against those tendencies, an escape from the cyberpunk hellhole their country became.
Still, prolly better than the two Koreas.
From a societal standpoint, yes, it is utopia, and yes, I also said people are miserable because of it.
The food is good, economy is good, petty crime is generally non-existent, their culture is intact, they're not flooded with foreigners, city infrastructure works flawlessly (it's an event if a train is even just a minute late), cities are clean, etc, etc. I could go on.
Obviously they have their problems, like I said, such as people never speaking their mind, work culture being complete cancer, and a lot of japanese being more or less socially autistic because of these things. Also their TV is ass. And this is talking about city life, life in the countryside is much better.
It is incomparable with your average american shithole city with homeless everywhere, trannies shitting up every facet of society, school shootings, crime everywhere, nogs nogging, and all led by a guy who genuinely probably can't get dressed by himself. I don't think there's even a comparison. What is even a single good thing about America or most western countries these days? There's absolutely frick all going for them.
I'm not even a weeb. Even Thailand is heaven on earth compared to the US.
>From a societal standpoint, yes, it is utopia
you have no fricking idea what utopia is
Are you going to make an actual point anytime soon or just going to argue semantics. Yes, utopia means it's perfect and everyone is happy and that's not obviously the case, we're not children, you should be able to infer my point.
Holy shit what a moron
>life in the countryside is much better.
Little Forest made me want to learn japanese all over again. The first time that happened was some japanese movie about a middleschooler going on a road trip across japan, i don't even remember the name. Gakkou 5 or something
>their culture is intact
Anon, are you really sure about that? Keep in mind, the mere preservation of external rites and traditions doesn't necessarily means that a culture is alive: Culture goes deeper than mere religion and festivities, into matters like worldview and actual spirituality. For a culture to be preserved the mindset of the ethnic group in question must be aligned with it.
As far as I have seen nips are nihilistic, capitalistic, westernized asians that still preserve some of their ancient drappings. It matters little if they still talk about yokai, kitsunres or whatever when in practice their entire way of life is a product of western modernity.
I don't think culture has anything to do with spirituality, for one. It's a complicated question regarding the definition of culture and spirituality that I think is going off-topic. But in regards to world views and ways of life:
>Nihilistic
I don't see where you're seeing this. Maybe CEOS, the upper class and politicians, but that was always the case.
>Capitalistic
Again, I don't think this is necessarily any different than it ever was. Japan was always a feudal/caste based society, capitalism is basically the same thing, just modern. It's less them changing and more just the times changing. You can't expect us to keep doing shit like hunting and foraging for own food when tech makes it so we don't have to. That's just the world advancing, not the culture.
>Westernized asians
I don't agree. Obviously some degree of westernization is always going to happen since America is still the media capital of the world (for some fricking reason) but do you think if you go and ask the average Japanese person about trans people, you'd get anywhere near the same 'walk on eggshells' response that you'd get in western countries? Or that their media is glorifying murder/robbery/drugs and women being prostitutes? Or, most of all, that the individual is all that matters and we should cater to everyone individually, no matter how moronic and inconvenient that gets? Not at all.
I don't think Japanese people are westernized at all. I'm sure some would, at least publically, share some 'progressive' world views, but in what they say and do, they're largely the same as they've always been, largely repressed, xenophobic, collective-facing. Again, not all of them, there's always exceptions and rebels and all that, but as a society, that is how it is.
>What is even a single good thing about America
You've got me there. I couldn't list anything objective tbh. But after traveling a bit i actually have found myself with more appreciation for US, maybe just because its what I'm familiar with. Objectively speaking i can't say much good about US. I think it's good if you are wealthy, but otherwise you probably get much higher quality of life in other places. This is the great secret that a lot of people never got to learn because of "greatest country in the world" propaganda.
>>What is even a single good thing about America
jeans. I love jeans. Thank god for jeans. other than that? might as well nuke it
>I think it's good if you are wealthy
that's the case for literally every country though
Anywhere is good if you're wealthy.
They got royally fricked by both an extremely submissive, collectivized culture and a ecomonic system that depends on people pretty much slaving away every single day of their lives till death comes or they just jump off a roof.
>adventurers have a guild
>anime is based in a fictional video game world
>games like this basically don't exist
it's not fair, I love adventurers guilds.
Shield hero's castle town does not fricking look like that
Digimon is the best isekai
Witcher technically becomes isekai in later books
Generic anime fantasy town if it real
I need me some sweet sword and sandal fantasy
try the bible
Not enough swording, too many depictions of feet in sandals. Especially in the later half. 2/5 stars
>isekai
We are in the Yakuza/Criminal/Delinquent Era already
It's a good era
I should probably read Crows someday
recommend me so good manga then I've read crows and I liked mikey and the gang from tokyo revengers
I'm so sick of isekai like you wouldn't believe.
I like the isekae idea of loser becomes super strong and has all the girls after him but never bothered to watch one, what's the best one with the best looking girls?
if fantasy isekai goes out of style im straight up killing myself