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is FFXIV:Endwalker the current favorite for GOTY? What else compares?
Endwalker.
Shitty story which even the long term casuals disliked. Braindead dummy job rotations.
Ff popular thank to weebs and trannies jerking over their catgirls. It stopped being a good MMO 2 expansions ago.
damn that's some cope right there
it's the best story in gaming since umineko
Very interesting. Now lets talk about the gameplay.
Watch them talk about pvp.
PvP is garbage, so I doubt they will
Endwalker is just a shittier retelling of shadowbringers.
ShB is just a shitter retelling of SB.
weebs are fricking unbearable
Define weeb
I've played about 4 hours total of XIV and I know I've seen literally nothing, but WHAT
XIVgays have exceptionally low standards. They seriously think a longwinded JRPG plot that ends with the protagonist beating the embodiment of despair with the power of friendship is groundbreaking.
The ascian lore is just a retelling of chains of promathia btw.
>The ascian lore is just a retelling of chains of promathia btw
See the thing about XI is that it took 400 hours before the story got good. Like literally compared to the 40 or so hours it takes before XIV's catches your attention enough to care and the 60 before XIV gets good around post-ARR.
Yeah, it might not seem like it, but the "neophyte adventurer arc" that you're in right now turns into some grand stuff eventually that seriously competes with at least other FF games and JRPGs. I say this as an FF fan since FFIV.
>See the thing about XI is that it took 400 hours before the story got good
Not on retail. There the story gets good 6 hours in.
Sure but the story wasn't as in your face as XIV's. You spent a lot of the time dicking around the world until you could handle the next mission. The weaker plot isn't as glaring as ARR's because it didn't constantly lock you to it. You could even do expansion stories in any order you felt like.
>The ascian lore is just a retelling of chains of promathia btw.
Not even close dude wtf.
Tho Chains of Promathia have 1000000x better story telling than anything on FFXIV
>I've played about 4 hours total
Then shut your FRICKING mouth. You don't know shit about jack, moron.
I better not catch you opening that hole in your face again.
Endwalker is absolute garbage compared to Shadowbringers story wise. Nothing makes any sense. Venat's motivations are stupid. The WoL is required to be even more of a clueless moron with no agency than usual, and all the the scions do a total 180 personality wise, applauding Hydaelyn for what she did after fighting to stop the Ascians from doing the same over the less 3-4 expansions.
I enjoyed it a lot because of the setpieces and some of the dialog but the more I think about it the worse it gets.
>every scion "killing themselves" in UT even though Venat gave us le meme crystal that can do anything (but we can only use it once!!!!)
0 emotional impact, the stakes in this story were long gone when they made clear they'll never let anything happen to the scions and no bad things will ever happen as a consequence of their actions. Hey, turns out we can reverse tempering! Hey, heres Y'shtola cheating death for the Xth time with nearly no consequences!
Even if they do decide to put them in real danger again and possibly kill them it's too late now, we went up against the personification of heat death of the cosmos together and fricked off without a scratch, imagine if Alphinaud or something dies to some random Void homie after that kek
>Venat gave us le meme crystal that can do anything
You mean Azem's memory crystal? Cause Venat didn't give that to the WoL.
She imbued it with the power that lets you bring the scions back after they become an hero in UT.
how did venat know we would need to be able to reform the bodies of dead people? and how did it manage to call the souls of hythlodaeus and emet-selch an unfathomable number of light-years away?
>how did venat know we would need to be able to reform the bodies of dead people?
Not that anon but, she didn't. She just gave us a tool to use in case we needed it.
>how did it manage to call the souls of hythlodaeus and emet-selch an unfathomable number of light-years away?
The same way it calls anyone anytime we need a party. The real question you should be asking is how it called on those two specifically. The answer, they were keeping tabs on you, as venat said, it was out heart's desire rather than just the magick.
frick's sake, bro. pay attention.
>how did venat know we would need to be able to reform the bodies of dead people?
"need"? What are you smoking my dude? You're tapping into the same shit Emett used in ShB. You're beaten over the head with the fact that the scions aren't *actually* dead. How the frick are you missing all those extremely obvious facts?
>how did it manage to call the souls of hythlodaeus and emet-selch
Yea it's not like you called the spirit of Emett Selch using that stone before :^)
>every scion "killing themselves" in UT
aaaand another brainlet who didn't understand UT.
Literally nothing justifies their faux sacrifices
This
It's getting kind of tiring to have yet another tearjerking speech and an ebin sacrifice scene only for them to come back yet again, negating absolutely everything said and done before
Graha Tia particularly, it's like he's just repeating word for word everything he's already said during the Elidibus story arc
HE WANTS TO HAVE AN ADVENTURE WITH YOU ;_; ;_; ;_; I CRY EVERY TIEM
It wasn't about their sacrifices, dummy. From the start the writing clues you in; hey, thancred is still around in some form btw. And then later it reminds you; hey, you have the friendship crystal remember? oh but you can't use it *nudge nudge, wink wink*
i get that but then what the frick even is the point of this fricking charade
every scion still effectively killed themselves one or two by two after giving you some form of goodbye
Because we as the audience know chekhov's crystal is going to bring everyone back, but the characters in the actual story don't. As far as they know they're giving up their physical forms to keep giving you ways forward, and even just allowing you to live.
sure but are they writing the story for the characters or for the players here
Yshtola fricking said the wol could bring them back with the crystal. Frick you.
and they immediately said you can't, you moron.
Said you can't -yet- Which ended up being comical since I thought they would return after beating Endsinger. But not even that. Couldn't break the game design. Gotta have the party members ready for the lvl90 dungeon
>Said you can't -yet-
No, she said you can't so long as you need their souls keeping you alive. No one knew something was going to happen that would let you summon them all back.
What's the source of that Vyrn?
Then it what was the point, enlightmenten me. Don't say some dumb shit like it shows how much faith they have in us
The power of friendship reaching across the aetherial sea is shit writing. Succeeding because you believe in / have faith in each other is shit writing. It will never not be shit writing. Keep that shonen jump frickery far away from the story.
Keep seething, westoid. I'm sorry EW's messages weren't subversive enough for you. Maybe you would've liked it more if the mother goddess was actually evil.
That's what all the FF14 story has been like, generic shounen tropes.
It was basically copying the final fight in S1 of Sailormoon where Sailormoon fights Queen Beryl.
its fine to write a story where characters dont die.
its not fine to bait with character deaths and sacrifices for cheap emotional cashins and then never commit to that, and FF14 is super guilty of that.
Yeah totally, Im not asking to put someone to the sword or something, just see some consequences to the actions of the main cast that dont get magically solved in the next 5 minutes
>story
>mmo
lamo
>umineko
>the story where the author went "FRICK YOU THERE IS NO ENDING"
Do 4cham morons actually think people didn't like Endwalker?
story which even the long term casuals disliked. Braindead dummy job rotations.
It really is Stormblood 2.
Well, almost. Stormblood had good raids and didn't have the villains freaking out over baby's first existential crisis over the Fermi Paradox.
>Stormblood had good raids
lol
>and didn't have the villains freaking out over baby's first existential crisis over the Fermi Paradox.
No instead it had you inviting tempered beastmen to peace talks and literally picking up shit.
>which even the long term casuals disliked.
Shut the frick up homosexual. I have a dozen IRL friends I play with who have never cleared a single Savage and they loved Endwalker. I reccomend actually playing thr game before posting on Ganker about it.
Good morning sir!
fpbp
jobs are getting worse every single expansion and the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't give a frick
I do see more and more discontent with people who actually play the game though so there's that
fpbp
Remember to thank SAMchads for delaying DRG and AST reworks to 7.0 so you can play them the way you like more time before they completely ruin them.
>MMO
>GOTY
Not for anyone sentient.
best new character award w/o a doubt
is FFXIV the only game to harness the biofem (body type 2) market properly?
UMMMMM ARE YOU GONNA TURN ON YOUR TRANS STANCE
There's Sims, Animal Crossing, and Stardew Valley.
>the players are hotter than their characters
is ffxiv the only such game in the history of vidya?
You can't really judge properly with a ton of makeup and those Freddy Krueger nails.
It will be God of War Ragnarok since it will be more accesible then Elden Ring to games journalists.
>garbage everywhere
>bad posture
He's really just like us...
Because MMORPGs are a garbage genre that started nowhere and went nowhere. There's no competition because no other MMO is playable.
Definitely going to win some awards but Stray and Eldern Ring are going to be favorites, along with God of Snoy from Shonyshill outlets.
For me it's Jack's game
>bro why do u play a lala
nice
SHB>SB>HW>EW
but the game still mogs almost everything as shit as it is now
Insane moron take. EW was awesome.
EW=ShB (2 parts of 1 story) > HW > SB > ARR
Good take
>Soulless moron detected.
A real ranking would be
SB > ARR > 1.23 > HW > 1.0 > ShB/EW (the downfall of XIV)
Give XIV a try
xiv barely has any boiwife content, hardly worth playing tbh
Remind me what the frick was Fourchenault's problem disowning them back in ShB
He disowned them in order to protect them in his own convulted way that I can't explain.
nice graph, pity it has no impact whatsoever in the game
That's the FFXI version and it is extremely important in that game.
Hey, there's uh, eureka.
That's FFXI moron
>Water and ice are separate elements
Roflcopter
>Ice beats Wind
...how? I guess it's the best they could do to try and make a circle since every other one kinda makes sense.
>Rock beats Ice in Pokemon, since rocks smash Ice
Ice really has no business being there.
Shouldn't ice beat rock? Rocks get busted up all the time by water settling in cracks and then freezing and expanding which breaks the rock.
>"If I act like an butthole and make their lives miserable they will have no choice but to come back home. Ameliance, I'm a genius!"
he wanted to show how serious he was about not giving a frick over the world's impending doom, it was just to prove a point.
He saw escaping to the moon as humanity's only chance for survival. Sharlayan thought the world was fricked and there was no way around it, so he didn't want Alphinaud to put his life on the line and die trying to work out what he believed to be an impossible solution
Elden Rings pretty much guaranteed to destroy everything else. Game had way to much spent on marketing and bots to obscure how shit the last 40% of the game is. It will win it all same as other open world reddit tier trash like Witcher 3 or Skyrim
If fricking hate you guys. If you keep praising this game like all the wienersuckers that make media content for this shit then Yoshi will never improve it or fix all the clusterfrick that's needed to be fixed.
It will get worse if Dragonshite flops hard too. FF16 better be worth it.
too late, ShB and EW were the most popular expacs to date despite being the shittiest content-wise
Shut up. Nothing matters but my shitposting war against a dead irrelevant game. The actual quality of 14 doesn't matter.
Witnessed
Yoshi knows what needs to be fixed in his game, he's not the kind of businessman to rest on his laurels. That's why he had a lot of ARR content updated. He knows just adding shit on the end for the current players isn't enough, the beginning has to be updated to attract new players.
You fricking moron. After they """"""""""""FIXED""""""""" ARR i have 0 confidence they have the capacity to fix what's needed on this game.
Haha yeah man....
Let's have ~~*open dungeons*~~ in WoW then develop a system called m+ which encourages skipping as much as humanly possible as quickly as possible!
Also I'm reminded of Legion dungeons like Darkheart Thicket, Neltharion's Lair and Vault of the Wardens which are completely and utterly linear corridors.
indeed. they need more trans representation, mythic+ dungeons, more mandatory grinds to weed out the casuals, REAL difficulty in raiding instead of this nonsense dance fight bullshit. you shouldn't even be able to think about challenging the last boss until you have 3 weeks of gear. and for the love of god, get a real writer in here who can kill off characters once their character arc is done. we can start with the scions besides the twins
>they need more trans representation
New lead translator made sure thats coming. Pixies were used as a precedent to introduce non-binary language and the Dragons are now pushing that shit too.
>mythic+ dungeons
Criterion Dungeons
>more mandatory grinds
What other content is there to do with value with how shallow they've made this game? It's a WoWclone thru and thru. Instead of incentivizing crafters and the open world you log for your roulette and raid tokens and frick off.
>real difficulty
The game should have had a proper difficulty curve as it progressed thru the story. No XIV player barring the 10% who try Savage would keep up with content that gets progressively harder.
Oh im sorry youre trying to shitpost
>and the Dragons are now pushing that shit too.
Dragons were always physically asexual. Kate is a problem but don't frick your argument by complaining about shit that was set in stone since HW.
>troon out to defend their trooning
Troon
It's like you didn't read my post at all.
Bahamut isn't literally father of all the dragons in-game?
Midgardsormr is the father of all dragons, Bahamut was the father of the Meracydian brood. Dragons reproduce alone through parthenogenesis, not through sex, but they do typically take "broodmates" which are solely a form of spiritual bonding.
he's the father of the Meracydian dragons, which are the ones in Azys Lla and then later the same ones you fight in Pagl'than
>you're shitposting
>but i typed out an essay anyway
jesus christ anon
those hands are the same from the that af armor?
uh, but women can only do dance fights, they'd lose all their money.
>"fixes" the new player experience
>while doing nothing to improve the first 40 levels of slow ass story and 2 buttons gameplay that filter 90% of new players
What's the logic here
>Yoshi knows what needs to be fixed in his game,
Good joke
>he's not the kind of businessman to rest on his laurels
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The engine is a mess an instead of trying to fix shit every expansion they put bandaid after bandaid requiring them to decrease content count as to not overload the fricking Engine. Instead of using EW as a way to make big sweeping changes to not rely on Bandaids they advertised more bandaids to you at Fanfest and you lapped it up.
>rest on his laurels
You clearly havent been paying attention to his sweet little lies
They are fixing shit though. The glamour plates and slots is them trying to fix shit. The graphical update shit.
Making 2.0 content even more braindead is NOT an improvement for new players. Sprouts DO NOT want to grind msq for 12 hours so they can get to a dungeon where some speedrun troony wall to wall pulls the whole thing and gets through it in 8 minutes. Nerfing old content was ALWAYS so trannies could get back to idling in limsa faster without having to worry about teaching sprouts anything.
>he thinks se makes changes based on what western tranoids want
replace "trannies" by "hikkiNEETs" and its the same fight
This is only true for balance changes. They do this to get new players and appeal to the lowest denominator possible, trannies or not. While they do not care for the rest of the world opinions, they absolute care about bringing their numbers.
They would adapt FFXIV for dogs if they could.
You were saying?
>trannies playing male characters
>baiting homos is enabling trannies
here's to (You), now frick off
>Making 2.0 content even more braindead is NOT an improvement for new players.
The improvements made to 2.0 dungeons, trials and solo duties in 6.1 made that content harder though.
>made that content harder
someone actually believes this
Cape Westwind is now a Solo Duty and harder then it ever was as a 8 man Trial. Both Castrum Meridianum and Preatorium are harder as 4 man dungeons. The Lahabrea fight, which is now also a Solo Duty is harder then it was as a 8 man fight.
>Both Castrum Meridianum and Preatorium are harder as 4 man dungeons
>saving thumbnails
Yes? 8 man version was an absolute joke with zero mechanics or mechanics that could be skipped/ignored since everyone had completely overtuned stats.
Now it scales you down to ilvl 60 and bosses have actual shit to look out for.
Still nothing too crazy but infinitely more engaging than the previous versions.
the bar for mmos is so incredibly low because mmo players brains are hardly functioning. what the frick kind of people are driven to do mindless tasks for virtual rewards that you have to pay monthly to even see for yourself
It's not even a game. It's a social simulator for femcels and housewives.
>female fc members start talking about their sex lives
>alliance chat starts talking about how they want to frick everything even vaguely female presenting
This is me every single time I run Dun Scaith and get to Scathach
I'm just sick and tired of people pretending being horny is a personality tbh
They oughta make you jerk off before you log in to XIV
I mean, are they wrong?
I'd peek in her scat hatch.
>OH MY SCIENCE SHE'S ONLY 11,000 YEARS OLD
>anyone without watermelon size breasts is a child
My femra is a child with watermelon sized breasts
>presenting
YWNBAW homosexual
is there a place to find a collection of character sliders? im terrible at character creation
Not appreciating the best girl? Correction is in order.
>best girl
You seem to have made a mistake. Let me fix that for you.
A fellow mommy pixie connoisseur
How did PvP go from 'literal shit tier' to 'the best PvP mmo' over the course of one patch? Are the Japanese REALLY that powerful?
also to answer your question OP its because XIV has something for everyone. WoW is both too casualized and too poopsock for most in between players. M+ and Raids are both poopsock, and gearing up through world quests is too easy. And the problem is made worse by professions being completely useless every expansion, and there being no player housing to entice people to keep playing.
delusion: the post
because its easy to get into and takes a lot of elements from modern mobas. Have you seen pvp in wow? You need a phd and 10 add ons to understand what the frick is happening. I don't know if its the best mmo pvp, but its easy to get into, which automatically makes it superior to most other mmo pvp.
"The best PVP MMO" isn't a high bar to clear.
>How did PvP go from 'literal shit tier' to 'the best PvP mmo' over the course of one patch? Are the Japanese REALLY that powerful?
You are a complete moron. PvP in this game such low tier garbage, it's unreal that they actually released this shit
It will never be the best due to server tick jank.
Massive improvement though, it shows how stale the pve jobs are now in function.
I hate Lyse so much I shake when I think about her.
zenos helped us more than lyse ever did
Does she make you clench your fist
Built dark skinned ala mhigans.
Lyse is for getting hypnotized by the Anata and passed around as a lamia hypnotoy, actually.
just as a prank of course!
She makes me clench my sphincter but I don't know why.
That cat game
What's with the stocky tumblr bodies?
They're highlanders
Why can an expansion count for game of the year?
Probably because each expansion can easily have 300+ hours of play time
FFXIV cultists are fricking scary
I played the game for 300 hours, I finished the MSQ, and I have no idea why they're so obsessed with it
they must be absolutely deranged
>is FFXIV:Endwalker the current favorite for GOTY?
no
>What else compares?
apparently stray and elden ring
>How did ff manage to beat out all the competition and become the clear top MMO?
it managed to be the only MMO that didn't self sabotage
I hate that image because metion is such a dumb character
anya anya anya
I love meteion so fricking much.
I prefer bigger birds.
Nerfing Steps of Faith doomed XIV's community.
Can anyone tell me why high levels are consistently worse at the game than sprouts now? Going through ARR dungeons on one of the new worlds and I've had two different tanks just facepulling without their stance on, healers refusing to cast offensive spells on small pulls, dps generally being shit etc. and none of them were sprouts
People weren't this bad when I played last year
a mix of most high levels being boosted + veterans being fed up with the game and not playing
People that are high-level, but not good enough at the game to engage in any of the content that’s actually relevant for them, so they just queue for leveling roulettes to try to farm tomestones and commendations. They’re like the WoW players that are still running Heroics instead of Mythics at the end of a patch.
sprouts usually try to do well. most high level characters are on autopilot
Content drought and maintenance mode. The actual good people dont stay subbed, they are long done with the patch since April. And since the devs are now doing 4-month patches, expect things to get a lot worse.
Do the content when its fresh, patch day, two weeks delay top, or else its dead and you're stuck with the trannies that dont really play this for the game.
>And since the devs are now doing 4-month patches
Whats the reason for changing that again
Yeah. One would think after EW sold so much they'd have the budget to not require a compromise like this. Guess all that eceleb shilling was for nothing.
China flu made them realize the players can eat that shit up and still print money like it never happened.
They redirect dev time and funding to other projects, since now they found the "perfect formula" and dont need to deviate from the pipeline.
>“Those two weeks that we ask for your patience is one week for additional implementation and then one week for fine-tuning,” said Yoshida. “As I explained in the first half, we really depended on the motivation of each of the developers that are on the team. Looking at our schedule and how we were, I do want my team to be healthy and be able to maintain a good level of quality.”
>“To be honest, there were areas where we might not [have] performed as well as we should have because some of us were pushing too hard,” added Yoshida. “We’re not an assembly line.”
they realize cash shop whales can't control themselves from spending $5000 worth of fantasia + the newest FOTM cash shop glam/mount/emote every month
I blame women tbvh. Most of the biggest whales I know in this game are women. Literally mindless consoomers. Now I know why companies like to cater to women so much.
>The actual good people dont stay subbed, they are long done with the patch since April
Isn't it a bit harsh to say that only world first groups are good players?
I will breed a lalafell
Literal built for BWC
Is the XIV story really that good? I just finished ARR and it seems pretty run of the mill JRPG shit
I would say overall it's an average story with a few very good moments. The biggest issue is the pacing and general MMO story telling that just brings it down. The story would work better as a VN.
just the base ARR or post patches? the story ramps up a bit then hits a massive spike in quality in 2.55 and through Heavensward
ARR is just the foundation, the actual story will start building in the patch series leading up to Heavensward.
only heavensward 3.0, shadowbringers 5.0 - 5.3 and endwalker's garlemald section can be considered "good" imho
the rest of the story range from boringly mediocre fujobaiting to complete cringe tier shounenshit
dragonflight is better
At least I still have my consti- level 50 hard dungeons
>MMO
>GOTY
Legitimately brain damaged from fried dopamine receptors.
I am finally getting to 2mil MGP for the emperor sabotender mount this week guys. That has been my goal for ages, feels good man.
expansions never get goty, just best ongoing game
>muh yoshita knows
Yoshita Pee is an incompetent moron that revamped PvP around crystal conflict and was such a moron it took him months to realize that his moron move would have dire consequences for other PvP modes
He is such a moron that he thinks the solution to people hating msq roulette is to make them take longer and turn everything in them into massive hp sponges. He is so fricking moronic that he can't even understand people only do it for the xpw and he should've just made it a solo instance with npcs and remove msq roulette.
He is so fricking lazy that he still can't add hats and hair to 2 year old races, when a single sweaty trooned out modder in his mom's basement did it in less than a week
I SEE A NIPPEL, MAN
Pee is an incompetent moron that revamped PvP around crystal conflict and was such a moron it took him months to realize that his moron move would have dire consequences for other PvP modes
No? Frontlines is a casual mode, they (rightfully) don't bother balancing around it because it's never going to be balanced.
Looking at PvP they don't balance it at all
I'm only a level 42 tank, but at what point can I safely pull wall to wall? Tried it in stone vigil yesterday and it was straight up impossible with how hard everything in there hits.
Leveling dungeons are always harder to pull wall to wall for some reason, especially ARR dungeon and some HW dungeons
Starting from SB you get most of your tanking kit and everything turns into a wall to wall simulator
Use your defensive CDs. You should rotate between them to have 2 active on every big pull.
Earlier dungeons can be a dick cuz u have less gear and tools, dont worry. You should still be able to pull packs by pair whenever you have 1 or 2 def CDs tho
You can't w2w some early dungeon. The beginning of Stone Vigil for example, you should pull to the first open room, stop, pop CDs, kill mobs and then pull everything after that to the boss door.
>at what point can I safely pull wall to wall?
level 1
all of them? if you can't, its cause your healer is new/bad
>PLD
Harder until lategame, healer dependent but should be able to w2w after level 50
>WAR
ezpz, w2w always as long as the dungeon permits
>GNB
also pretty easy, defensively GNBs are probably the best mitigation tanks in the game
>DRK
always going to be rough. DRKs are the worst tanks defensively and are down a CD because of TBN, which is nowhere near as good as a real defensive. Oblation is an absolute meme too and I can't believe they put that shit in the game. I could go on about how bad DRK is but I won't.
In general though anything under level 50 be careful because most healers don't have their full kits yet either.
I find the tank being rather irrelevant when it comes to non expert dungeons. Everything you wrote is correct imo, but some healers just don't either understand what ogcd:s are, or they take the "You're not just a healer, you're a dps as well." advice to heart and refuse to heal until you're below 10%, which most of the times results in death, unless you pop all of your cooldowns for one fricking pack.
Expert dungeons have the least disparity between mitigation kits, the places where DRK is absolute fricking dogshit is in the high 50s up to 69 when they don't have TBN but all the other jobs have their short small mit equivalents.
When your healers get their first aoe skills after level 45. That's assuming, of course, that your healers are bothering to dps at all.
And god forbid you have a DRG in your party, because Yoshi-P decided that they get aoe skills super late for some weird reason.
The only rework DRG needs is giving them the first part of the AoE combo at a lower level like how they lowered the level requirement for the second part of DRKs AoE combo.
They also need to prune some of their fricking buff buttons. Just put the lance charge buff on blood of the dragon
>And god forbid you have a DRG in your party
I've only just started the trial as a DRG and got to level 40, does the aoe make the job more fun? I know rotations in MMO's are usually only complete at max level but holy frick did they expect new players to find this fun?
DRG's rotation is more about execution and practice than ironing out details. You cycle between applying your damage up buff and heavenly thrust, and both rotations cycle back to the first skill, which is changed to Raiden Thrust, which deals more damage and sets you up for wyrmwind thrust after 2 successful cycles. You'll get several jumps and OGCDs that you weave between your weaponskills. You'll either find it satisfying or very dull, since your damage doesn't really spike like other classes do.
However, DRG is looking at a rework soon (tm), so don't get too comfortable.
That does sound satisfying, i usually play healers in MMO's but thought DRG looked cool. I guess it's just because my rotation is just setting up full thrusts it's just boring until more shit unlocks. If i'm just going through the MSQ for the first time should i just keep going with DRG or would it be aids to swap to another job this early on? I think scholar would be more engaging for me for my first playthrough
Do not play healer in XIV. You are expected to DPS as a healer 3/4 of the time because encounters dont actually require all that much healing and all healer rotations have been gutted to 2 buttons that you'll be mashing from level 4 to 90.
As a wowfugee i don't mind that since disc priest was my favourite specc. Do any tanks have any engaging rotations from 1-90?
Feel free to try healing if you want but you've been warned
DRK and GNB have the best rotations by far but you can only unlock DRK in Heavensward and GNB is level 60+
dpsing as healer should be fun in theory but that anon wasn't exaggerating when he said "2 DPS buttons". he really meant 2 buttons, 1 cast and 1 dot refreshed every 30 seconds, from level 4 to max
how would they be able to fix healing? would healing rotations similar to dps rotations work at all?
Just make them slightly more engaging, give them a couple more buttons. SCH used to have more than 1 DoT to juggle and could spread them via Bane and everyone was happy with it. An ability that could proc from DoT ticks like BRD's would be nice, or alternative ways to turn your resources into damaging abilities.
>dots
You are lucky bard didnt lose their dots (yet). All jobs are going to be streamlined into 1 dot only.
So you may be familiar with the armory bonus, which gives you bonus exp for classes that are at a lower level than your main class. At level 40-50, it's not going to be very noticeable, so I'd recommend grabbing a second class, getting it to 16 and doing leveling roulette on it. As the other poster mentioned, healers have very simple damage rotations, so you probably shouldn't grab a healer for leveling quite yet. Scholar's a good first choice, though, since WHM causes brain rot.
Keep in mind that you can unlock Samurai and Red Mage at level 50 (they also start at level 50), so that may be a good time to pivot if you're interested in either of those classes. I don't think they're locked in the free trial, at least.
level 50+ dungeons onwards with capped armor
anything below 50 is possible but not recommended because everyone's toolkit is so limited
I just can't get into this shit. I love older Final Fantasies and I love mmos, but this shit is too much of a themepark for me.
The cat girls, dumb modern looking clothing on players etc. just breaks my immersion so hard it's not enjoyable anymore. The dungeons were fun, too bad there's no real pvp.
>DUDE TRUST ME THE GAME GETS GOOD 300 HOURS IN
fftrannies need to be killed
Dragonflight will get it you dumb zivbucks as WoW is still the best
I actually want WoW to be good again so SE will see it as a threat and maybe re-invest into XIV, but I doubt it will be
I can't wait for this to get relaunched as a single player game so I don't have to deal with you whiny b***hes anymore.
You'll be waiting for another 20 years man, FFXI still hasn't gotten a single player remake.
SHB>EW>HW>ARR>SB
For me its
ShB > EW > SB > HW > ARR
I'm sorry, I know HW is good too but I generally dislike non-humanoid villains that don't speak english. I just could never relate to Nidhogg. I liked Zenos more than Nidhogg because Nidhogg accomplished nothing while Zenos was beating our ass about 2 hours into the expansion.
>tfw lost 1.5m gil at a casino
I was up almost a mil before I started losing to.
I played FFXIV since literal 1.0 and quit the game for Black Desert after finishing Endwalker. I was already drifting away mid-way through Shadowbringers but after finishing Endwalker I've had no desire to go back.
>I played FFXIV since literal 1.0 and quit the game for Black Desert
Like climbing out of a pit only to stumble headfirst into a snare.
>going to another mmorpg
Black person why the frick you lie. If you quit a MMORPG you know that you SHOULD NOT go to any other one.
I'm the type of person that prefers to play only one or two games and be heavily invested into them than to play a ton of different games. I used to play more variety when I was younger but I feel like most games nowadays suck so I'd rather just put my time into one thing that does the most things I like even if it has some things that I still feel are flaws.
Need Thicc lala
>Lalafell with large breasts
Cringe
elden ring you smug bird.
I mean, it's his game, he can do whatever he wants.
I still think we should get new groups in future expacs because the scions are done at this point. Their arcs are finished, aside from Y'shtola's who is finally getting a personality. They're going to get flanderized to hell at this rate.
When every other mmo is violently shoving grenades up their asses and pulling the pins, it's not that hard for ff14 to out compete them.
Game still really good, I just think the only reason people are finding out how good it is, is due to other mmos both new and old all falling flat
What even is there anymore?
>WoW is a laughing stock that looks like its a mobile game from 3 years ago with its new features being pro nouns and removal of gender on the character creation screen (other woke shit will surely follow)
>Lost Ark is a pay 2 win korean grind fest who lost its lead dev and was censored by amazon
>Gw2 and Elderscrolls pretty much just tread water at best but were never really all that good to begin with
>New world is on life support because amazon doesn't want a cut and run reputation but its its pretty well dead
>Ashes of Creation might never release but if it does the goblin ugly women are not going to help it at all
>Tortanic was made by Bioware
>rest is a bunch of korean pay to win shit or cash grabs full of third worlders and whales
Meanwhile XIV has pretty much just been doing what its been doing since Heavensward with some failures but more successes. It helps Single player loving JRPG fans can enjoy it too
When is the next patch coming? I'm bored...
You want another "this time we will going on a real adventure" patch? Frick yewish-p
I want something. Not to mention I don't enjoy playing SAM anymore and it was the only DPS job I had fun with. So at least some story could be nice.
Whats wrong with SAM? Never played it.
They replaced "shinten with a different animation" with just regular shinten and now the job is ruined even thoug they already ruined it in 5.0 then raped and desecrated its corpse in 6.0.
They removed one of its core abilities aka Kaiten.
DRG could be nice but it needs some QoL features and better animations. Frick the jump attacks feel like shit. Especially compared to other FF games.
Removal of Kaiten dumbed down the job and made it less enjoyable. Yes. Kaiten.
>kaiten
>core ability
Not since 5.0 it wasn't. Since then it's just been shinten with more potency.
>Removal of Kaiten dumbed down the job and made it less enjoyable. Yes. Kaiten.
lmao
>removing the meagre timer management that the job still had in 5.X completely and making jinpu and shifu timers completely free and never relevant at all in 6.0 was fine
>making ikishoten 2 minutes drastically recducing your kenki generation is fine
>making positionals less important is fine
>removing all thought from the rotation and turning it into a braindead clone of DRG without the animation locks and with autistic filler counting so that the job has literally nothing to think about outside of theorycrafting how many fillers you need is fine
>but removing a button made redundant in 5.0 that does the same thing as shinten with more steps ever since they removed any need to weigh kenki against GCD damage in 5.0 is GOING TOO FAR
I imagine your brain would have melted if you'd tried to play your job as it was originally designed, Shadowfetus.
I just read this as Samurai chart by Black personless. This place has ruined me.
This is genuinely not that difficult. None of the jobs have been hard since about Heavensward, and even then difficulty is more paramount to how janky and unfinished some of them were.
I get real tired of people trying to put their job on a pedestal of gameplay when what really matters is how well you perform with adaptive muscle memory and a bunch of shit on the floor.
>This is genuinely not that difficult.
No it's not, but it's more engaging than the braindead spam the job has been since 5.0 and especially when they completely removed the bit of timer management it still had in 6.0.
>I get real tired of people trying to put their job on a pedestal of gameplay
Samurai isn't even my main job. I just like shitting on Shadowfetus SAM players because they're moronic secondary Black folk who literally caused SAM to get dumbed down by being totally okay with the ShB and EW changes and then complain when SE finally makes the first change that doesn't affect how the job plays at all.
>Samurai isn't even my main job. I just like shitting on Shadowfetus SAM players because they're moronic secondary Black folk who literally caused SAM to get dumbed down by being totally okay with the ShB and EW changes and then complain when SE finally makes the first change that doesn't affect how the job plays at all.
Every job is getting homogenized. That's what happens when your game gets more popular. They can't do stuff like cleric stance or how aggro used to work for tanks because it would deter people. On top of that, they're going to try and make more expansions which effectively should mean more buttons to press or continued homogenization.
All I'm saying is that get used to it.
>They can't do stuff like cleric stance or how aggro used to work for tanks because it would deter people.
Does it really though
Shitters play whatever they want sub optimally because they're never required to play well, do they really care if you're not supposed to curebot in Savage and beyond where they'll never step foot?
>Every job is getting homogenized
Yeah no shit moron, but SAM players are the only ones who are crying and screeching nonstop like they just got holocausted because one button that's been redundant since 5.0 was removed while they were completely fricking quiet about all the rape even in 6.0. Well I guess Summoner players are also crying a lot but when aren't they?
>Yeah they lied to us pretty blatantly.
Not only are there the obvious Shoha II and Ogi Namikiri changes (though Ogi Namikiri can be justified as some players liking to have oGCDs and GCDs remain separately I suppose), but there's plenty of buttons on other jobs that have no reason to exist as well (Orogeny for example)
>They shouldn't have flattened the damage profile of SAM either, its fine to have different jobs with different damage spikes.
Black person every job has a "big dick damage" button now, the problem was that midamoron SAM was designed to spam Midare so much that you might as well have killed yourself when your midares weren't critting. The only problem with it is being fixed in the next patch anyway so it won't affect savage at all and SAM would be bad in DSR even with old Midare scaling.
Bold of you to assume I didn't b***h for years about the abortion that was 5.0. They made nearly every single job worse.
The difference is that people were happier back then so if you shat on the game you'd get an army of white knights on your ass defending all the moronic shit they did because they clapped when le remember us ascian man did the snap of le fingers
>Bold of you to assume I didn't b***h for years about the abortion that was 5.0.
You clearly didn't if that shit didn't get you to quit the job but them removing a button that's been redundant since then did.
>The difference is that people were happier back then so if you shat on the game you'd get an army of white knights on your ass defending all the moronic shit they did because they clapped when le remember us ascian man did the snap of le fingers
and now those same morons are the ones whining about Kaiten in spite of being the literal reason it's removed in the first place Black person. Read my posts. If you were actually b***hing about that shit (and actually quit sam over it) then you aren't who I'm calling out.
>You clearly didn't if that shit didn't get you to quit the job but them removing a button that's been redundant since then did.
>they completely gutted and raped my job twice
>but I'm still playing it
>oh they removed a button that did the same thing as another button? I'm done playing this job
You are a moron if this is what you did.
well you see the funny thing is that somehow SAM is still the melee that got the least raped by 5.0 and 6.0
Nah that would be monk. For 6.0 at least. That's only because Monk was already raped in 5.0 though and 6.0 just undid a bit of that rape.
Also DRG I guess since it's been the same shit since 4.0 just with more buttons added on.
Also NIN for the same reason as MNK.
Also none of those jobs were ever raped as hard as SAM was in 5.0 since they all still retained their fundamental playstyles.
So basically you're completely wrong.
mfw DRG is gonna get the SMN special in 7.0
it's good because they only glance over a bunch of them, theres so many and none of them really seemed to matter
>mfw DRG is gonna get the SMN special in 7.0
I'm interested in seeing how they could possibly make it any worse than it already is. The only way down I can think of from here is removing animation locks but they've already basically done that.
>Jumps don't even feel like jumps at all
>They don't even make you invincible as they should
>Fricking Estenien is a better dragoon
We need to get possessed by Hraesvelgr for moar powar.
PvP DRG is so much better in that regard
I know you can't copy that in PvE because encounter design in this game is so rigid but frick I wish they took notes of what they did with all the jobs in that mode
PvP machinist is also infinitely better
What? No it isn't
Are you going to tell me PvP DRG limit break doesn't feel more like a DRG jump than anything PvE DRG has?
When it works, yeah, thought you meant the normal pvp abilities
If they put me in charge of DRG I would do this to "rework" it while still keeping in line with "fixing" the problems yoshi is pretending people have with it
>(High) Jump is now a long animation lock
>it now gives you invulnerability, but you also can't be targeted, so if you try to cheese a buster or stack with it you're just going to nuke someone else. Basically you're treated like you don't exist for the entire animation lock + and extra half second afterwards.
>also doesn't ignore debuffs or damage from things like death walls or failed mechanics just like regular invulnerability
>it grants you a speed buff for 3 seconds after using it that's greater than Sprint
>Jumps extend your damage buff and Chaos Thrust by 3 seconds each
>Vorpal Thrust replaced with Drachenlance
>Disembowel replaced with Ala Morn
>Elusive Jump now gives you a personal shield
>Dragon Sight is now a trait upgrade for lance chage. When you use it it buffs you by 20% for the duration and the target by 5%. Then it changes back into Lance Charge, which changes back into Dragon Sight once used. Cuts down the "bloat" of having to press both which is something people apparently take issue with while still retaining mostly full fucntionality of both
>Heavensflame Dive, trait upgrade for Dragonfire Dive, is only usable when High Jump and Spineshatter Dive each have 1 or more charges and consumes 1 charge of each. Deals damage equal to both combined + the 300 potency from Dragonfire Dive, is a guaranteed crit, and gives you two Dragon Eyes immediately
>Battle Litany now gives you 1 stack of whatever the frick the Wyrmwind Thrust stacks are called
Sounds cool, I'd play it anon
Too bad whatever the frick they're going to come up with is going to be worse than what this random anon on an armenian basket weaving forum threw out there
Sounds infinitely better than shit we have now
Doesn't this scare away old players who enjoy pressing buttons? Shitters are gonna be bad no matter what unless you only leave 123 combo and even then people would frick it up.
This chart doesn't make any sense and seems to be filled with errors.
The only errors on it are things that were changed in patches or over time with better theorycrafting like better openers and Arm's Lengh having knockback resistance added to it sometime in 4.1 or 4.2 (pretty sure it was 4.2 since people were still doing cover + tempered will for exdeath's knockback).
Removed one ability that was integral to SAM since it was released. Basically you had 2 kenki spenders and they removed 1, so now all you do to dump Kenki is spam Shinten like a moron. They also cut the potency of all Iaijutsus in half and made them autocrits
Crits changes were as bad if not worse than kaiten
It was a pretty boring ability but better than Shinten dump. They should have replaced it with something else, theres no good argument to not replace it with something instead of outright removing it
>It was a pretty boring ability but better than Shinten dump. They should have replaced it with something else, theres no good argument to not replace it with something instead of outright removing it
Nah, the only good argument is that they should revert hagakure, anything else is mental gymnastics to justify why you're okay with raping a job but not okay with removing 1 redundant button.
The only valid argument you could make was that their "button bloat" excuse was complete bullshit since Shoha II still exists.
Yeah they lied to us pretty blatantly.
Hakagure was bad, but just because a change before was bad doesnt mean another bad change is OK, is it??
Shipping crit changes before the patch was beyond moronic. My faith in these job devs is sub zero since ShB. They shouldn't have flattened the damage profile of SAM either, its fine to have different jobs with different damage spikes.
>Crits changes were as bad if not worse than kaiten
Yes, the crit changes were the most moronic thing ever and it needs to be fixed asap. Tbqh i'm kinda concerned this is the type of team we have for job balance. Making the core ability always crit without taking into account the buffs that are always on SAM was fricking moronic.
Kaiten gone is kinda meh it was just one button that you always weave before Midare/Higanbana. But i'm suprised they didn't got rid of Shoha II or Ogi not being tied to Ikishoten but they really love being fricking stupid.
The only issue with the crit change is being addressed in the next patch when they tweak crit buffs, moron. Pay attention. Otherwise it was a huge net gain since it makes damage more consistent.
>Otherwise it was a huge net gain since it makes damage more consistent.
To who? Parsetrannies? Why not just get rid of the crit stat if you want to be consistent. If we're already there why not just get rid of all the sub stats. Are you fricking kidding me dude?
To everyone moron
>Why not just get rid of the crit stat if you want to be consisten
Why don't you actually read what the crit stat does, moron?
Fricking dipshit Black person if you want to start having jobs that have always crit abilities then the reason why the stat is there comes close to 0 even if that shitty stat is "your crits now deal even more damage!" the RNG origin isn't there anymore. It would be the same to just up the potencies to everything if you wanna cut even more RPG mechanics. Are you really this blind from the cult?
>Fricking dipshit Black person if you want to start having jobs that have always crit abilities
Nah just the jobs that have all of their damage come from 1 ability. Which at this point is basically just Warrior and Samurai. And Monk, but that ability is a guaranteed crit ability too (especially now that the positional is gone).
> why the stat is there
WHY DON'T YOU READ IT YOU FRICKING moron? WHY DO YOU THINK WAR STACKS CRIT YOU FRICKING moron?
>WHY DON'T YOU READ IT YOU FRICKING moron? WHY DO YOU THINK WAR STACKS CRIT YOU FRICKING moron?
It's ironic how you call that and you didn't even read my post where i already acknowledge that.
No you handwave it away because you're a massive moron who has no ideas how crit works and yet feels qualified to comment about it.
Before you stacked crit because your midares not critting meant you weren't doing damage.
Now you stack crit because it makes your midares do more damage.
Literally nothing has changed, except one thing which is being fixed, which you conspicuously failed to mention, most likely because you're a moronic Black person who doesn't even know what the actual problem with the guaranteed crits was.
I'm not discussing with a monkey who will not read what i type.
Why midare always critting isn't a dps issue and you're moronic and showing me 100% that you're not even reading anything else but just spergin without taking a second to read.
I accept your concession, homosexual.
>something did, we get no value from crit buffs right now.
Which is being fixed in the next patch. Also notice the dumb Black person I was replying to doesn't mention that at all, because he's complaining about some shit he fundamentally doesn't understand on any level.
>they should still have waited for next patch to ship this along with the other crit changes.
This is a legitimate response, but a better one is "They should have shipped the crit buff changes with this patch (or rather back in fricking 4.2 when they changed IR in the first place)."
>they also shouldn't have nerfed midare potency that much
Nah the midare nerf was fine, the Tenka Goken nerf was completely unnecessary. SAM's single target damage is exactly where it needs to be right now, but its AOE is in the shitter. Also circle Tenka Goken looks and feels completely fricking moronic.
Circle Tenka is so bad holy shit, just why, its double moronic because unlike WAR we still also have line/fan shape AOEs
>Literally nothing has changed
something did, we get no value from crit buffs right now. they should still have waited for next patch to ship this along with the other crit changes.
they also shouldn't have nerfed midare potency that much
give me one (1) reason why they shouldnt have replaced it with something more interesting instead of outright gutting it
>replaced it with something
Why? I was a brainless button. You never didn't use it before casing your iai.
>you also had to manage at least something
No you didn't, moron.
>Why? I was a brainless button. You never didn't use it before casing your iai.
its less about kaiten being good and more about Shinten dump being horrible
So? SAM has been horrible ever since it became midare spam. That's not an argument.
>No you didn't, moron.
saving 20 kenki means saving a resource
saving or pooling a resource for later means you're mindfully managing that resource
>saving
When did you ever have to make a conscious decision to conserve meter to be able to buff your iai?
>Why? I was a brainless button. You never didn't use it before casing your iai.
Yes? That's the point, if its so bad why not replace it with something fun?
>oh, this ability is a problem, lets remove it
That's been their philosophy for the last 3 expansions and because of that every job is in the shitter now.
Maybe you should have complained about it for the last 3 expansions then instead of only quitting the job now, moron.
Oh wait SAM has been explosively popular since 5.0 because SAM players are braindead Shadowfetus morons that actively enjoy the rape the job got in 5.0
It doesnt make sense for SAM to get the autocrit bat there and not shit like BLM that loses nearly as much when their nukes dont crit/DH
Have you tried DRG? It plays identically to SAM but a little less braindead
>I don't enjoy playing SAM anymore
Tell me why and if you mention Kaiten i will fricking kill you in your sleep
You just hate the scions or what? This expa only meant we're done with the ascians/hydashit and zodiark
Nta but I want the scions dead. I'm fricking tired of them I want a new cast.
Don't worry, bro. Ishikawa's team of fujo assassin-slash-writers are already getting ready to add a new batch of Scions to the team.
Ishikawa is the only one who added a female character that's actually hot besides Yugiri though.
>Ryne
>hot
Fujos are fine with women they feel aren't a threat to them i.e. being too young/old/ugly/etc
But Ryne is none of those things?
>You just hate the scions or what?
Sure I hate the Scions. The lost all their charme with ARR. I miss 1.X Yda and Papalymo. Now everyone is stiff, prude and full with forced jokes.
If you watch the Gridania intro of 1.0 you see that Yoshi-P and the current team has no idea of the world and characters.
>the people that created this world and these characters have no idea about the world and the characters
Not him, but didn't the dude who's suppose to keep the lore in check write the Ala Mhigan half of SB?
>1.0
Yaeko Sato
Everything since ARR has different writers. The story of XIV is a big clusterfrick and the SB-patches andShB proved it.
>The story of XIV is a big clusterfrick and the SB-patches andShB proved it.
how?
Ascians moved from demon like mysterious secret society from the void too some "xDDD you are a shard of me r-r-rember us wol-kun" homosexuals.
it was bound to happen
Never. The current team has themselves confirmed that until Stormblood they had no idea what they were doing with the Ascians.
Shadowbringers and Endwalker is just like Disney Star Wars.
>Shadowbringers and Endwalker is just like Disney Star Wars
Damn bro, in what way?
Because Asians have robes. And who so you think also has robes? Jedi.
So you want it for them to be a secret society forever. Ok. So the empire would be the bad guys forever?
I know you are a moron with shit opinions but at least get your facts straight, they came up with the whole lore of the Ascians in Heavensward. Fricking Post-HW is where the concept of the reflections gets introduced.
is that why they had to retcon hydaelyn's speech in EW?
>they had to retcon hydaelyn's speech in EW?
?
based
Mysterious secret societies are shit. Always have been.
>mysterious secret
Yeah, exactly. You didn't know shit about 1.0 ascians. They were nothing.
>1.0
Cringe
Did you play it?
>he wants the Ascians to be boring generic le darkness bad guys
Now they are boring. They are just the friends "muh sad life, muh shards, remember us we dindu nuffin" guys.
They are just a power fantasy like egypt homies with flying pyramids.
>know you the cause of this corruption? hydaelyn.
>what do you mean?
>heheheh
>huh?
>ohohoho
>are you gonna-
>AHAHAHAHAH HEHEHE HOHOHO
If they had mustaches, they would've been twirling them ffs.
I really hope the next Pandaemonium raids add more depth to Lahabrea because holy shit he needs it badly.
They went from being the most incompetent and laughable criminal-occult Society to being a faction that people actually gave a shit about.
the power of emo prettyboys
Which is still better than "Organization XIII but even more cringy and incompetent"
>being a faction that people actually gave a shit about.
Emet Selch is more popular than Sephiroth.
Let's speak in 10 years about it.
Sephiroth was always a boring one dimensional villain
THIS is how you trigger the XIV community. Based and redpilled
>i was merely pretending
I respected you for standing your feet on the 1.0 story but now you're just pathetic.
>act moronic
>get called a moron
>haha yes, ebin troll
gj
The move from moustache-twirling evil mystery homies to what we got in regards to their motives was the best thing XIV's story did
Then they fricked it all up again with Elpis
How? Elpis if anything showed that Emet-Selch was wearing nostalgia goggles and the Ancients weren't so perfect.
That's PRECISELY the problem
It's better if Emet's motivations are because he's actually trying to bring back a perfect society of perfect people it gives his actions more weight to the point where it's difficult to disagree with him
The Dead Ends shows that perfection only leads to apathy and eventually wanting to die, the people in the third area were basically the Ancients.
Sure Ancient society was definetely miles better than what they have now, but it had its ugly side that was just being swept under a rug and it was going to be their downfall in the long run.
If anything it justities Venat's actions, she saw the writing on the wall and decided mankind needed to be nerfed to avoid Ra-La 2.0.
>perfection leads to wanting to die
>Why?
>b-because i said so!
Devs dont even know how to answer this statement and it shows on omega quest. ShB was by far much better expa. Tho i really like metion and hermes as villians.
>Devs dont even know how to answer this statement
"One race had discarded all things that gave rise to sorrow, hoping to have only joy. They found joy lost its savor in the absence of sorrow, and lost their will to live"
at least admit youre a moronic cutscene skipper anon
>proceed to ask why the great robot decided to kill himself
>no reason at the end
"To become stronger was essential to our existence. Our every action has been in service to this objective. But if nothing lies beyond this, can it truly be said that it was essential?"
I recommend you actually listen to the robot when Graha talks to it, he says some other things that pertain to the Omicrons losing their purpose
>answer a question with a question
You're not so brilliant...
>At the end of our purpose there is only a lack of purpose. There's no reason to continue.
moron.
do you have be to spoon-fed everything?
It's basic yin/yang
>It's better if Emet's motivations are because he's actually trying to bring back a perfect society of perfect people
why, the entire point of emet is that you are BOTH right and you are clashing ideals. emet wants to bring back his friends and family because he believes you guys are nothing more but pieces of them that were unfairly sundered while you and your friends believe that he has no right to do that. making elpis be this omega perfect society that has the answers to everything would have just ruined the narrative.
The entire point of the EW is that the Ancients weren't perfect. Their utopian obsession is what would have damned them in the end. The point of the story is that you can't run from suffering, the fact that they anthropomorphized suffering into a bird you can literally fight is just video game shit. The Ancients were on an inevitable path to all fricking killing themselves.
it's much more fun to talk about the the reason and they why the way villains are than just them being MYSTERY homieS, it also makes villains like zenos more fun to have.
Honestly I can't get into the "WoL loves going on an adventure" characterization cause nothing in this game really feels like an adventure.
>MSQ
The closest it gets but it's mostly just cutscene watching. You can kinda get into the spirit of it when you're adventuring with the white haired elf trio in HW but it's not really the same.
>Dungeons
You're just moving through hallways aoeing mobs.
>Trials
In a trial series you're just listening to exposition in a hub area before you get teleported into an arena to fight something.
>Raid series
Binding coil was neat because it felt like you were making your way through a massive structure but Alexander was a step down by having you constantly leave to listen to exposition. The leadup to the bosses was a letdown too since they were just straight lines unlike in coil where there were alternate paths you could take.
>Alliance raids
You listen to exposition in a hub area and then aoe mobs in a hallway. At least these bosses don't just keel over immediately.
Eureka was kind of good for the adventure feel during quests because you had to navigate around mobs that actually posed a threat to you. I wish the overworld content was like this but I guess it would scare away the players who couldn't even handle In The Cold without an easy mode. Bozja didn't really scratch the same itch, probably because it looked like shit. Deep dungeons are also good for the dungeon crawling feel while soloing them.
>The closest it gets but it's mostly just cutscene watching
Is the WoL watching cutscenes?
No but the wol's just standing around doing nothing in most of the cutscenes.
>I wish the overworld content was like this but I guess it would scare away the players who couldn't even handle In The Cold without an easy mode. Bozja didn't really scratch the same itch, probably because it looked like shit.
It could be done in the overworld by providing a safe road or path for players to get where they really need to go for msq. But side content could be gated behind more difficult to reach areas. They would have to kill the aether current system or have you get them some more casual MSQ friendly way. Although I am not certain how much people that just want to see the main story care about getting flying
They should just kill flying and design better zones.
I'm not telling you all that you should unequivocally enjoy something without raising questions or concerns, but some of you really are ruining the experience for yourself. How are you supposed to enjoy anything if your trained response is to nitpick and find things you don't like about it.
This is not the fricking same as having observations or preferences by the way.
Sorry but it's feelings built up over a decade now of being patient with this game only to see it become worse and worse over time
Trans rights are human rights!
>have to join secret discords to get the meteoin mods
discord ruined everything
I heard there's a fricking interview process to get into them. What the hell?
>become the clear top MMO
you first have to dethrone WoW, which hasn't happened for 20 years, to the point that MMO devs just stopped trying and no big budget MMOs are being made anymore that compete with WoW
>WoW
This shit barely hits the top5 these days.
It's 18 years old. It's sad for the whole genre that a 18 years old game is still strong.
It's strong because of people with Stockholm syndrome. It has nothing to do with quality of the game. Blizzard shits on a plate and the payers still eat it up.
What happened to "first having to dethrone wow"?
if going by active lvl 90 characters, even wow classic has more active max level characters, a large amount of FFXIV is free content so the amount of monthly users means very little, you need to look at characters active at max level
So when levelling other jobs that no longer count as being active?
ffxiv made a splash when endwalker launched in the middle of shadowlands content drought with massive streamer sponsorships and aggressive marketing, everyone more or less realizes once dragonflight releases the wowfugees go back, at which point the cope will move to "thank god the morons finally left"
honestly im just happy people stopped posting that fricking dancing lalafell
summer 2021 was the most entertaining time for mmos.
>everyone more or less realizes once shadowlands/9.1/9.2/dragonflight releases the wowfugees go back, at which point the cope will move to "thank god the morons finally left"
Nah dood dragonflight looks bussin. All the paid wow shills are saying it's gonna be good.
your point was that wow barely makes top 5, when it's still the most played mmo even after a massive marketing campaign and streamer sponsorships organized by square enix, what do you think is gonna happen once blizzard kicks in the gear with their marketing machine and streamer sponsorships?
to add to this, I didn't even know what ffxiv was until I started seeing recommended vids on my youtube and people shilling it on Ganker after I presume they saw the marketing
the marketing for this game was insane considering the game itself isn't much anything after you remove the story, which is something you only play once
>WoW is still the most played MMO
Considering by how Blizzard is acting lately with WoW probably the game doesn't even have 500k subs and most of the subs are playing classic instead.
they _already_ fricked up twice by releasing consequent worst expacks in history and wow is still the most popular mmo
you literally can't kill wow, the only thing that will kill it is wow mobile game version released in china or some shit
nah, ffxiv has been the most popular mmo for awhile now. WoW dropped below a mil long ago and never recovered. It's still going to chug long like how people still play XI or runescape, but it's long past being relevant.
can you back up those statements in any way
why don't you ask the wowgays that too, since blizzard stopped sharing official numbers several expansions ago once it was obvious the game was in decline.
thought so.
no, and i dont care
>MMO
>Lost Ark
>PoE
>only lvl cap matter
wow brain
I wonder how many new people stop to do old lvl cap content before continuing on.
>active max
>when there are legit people that have dozens of characters for dumb shit like farming that valentines rocket mount
The only reason to be mad about losing kaiten is because it was a cool animation. Shut the frick up.
A cool animation was a great bonus indeed. But you also had to manage at least something. Now you just spam that shit button to spend the resource like there's no tomorrow.
>But you also had to manage at least something.
Not really. You still hold your gauge at 50 when you're not bursting just like before. Nothing has changed.
You might have a point if the job still worked like it did in SB, but that hasn't been the case for years.
>top MMO
Most people already quit after they finished the content in a couple of days. People who still play just ERP and do other stupid stuff
Bros a spider fricked my POTD run....
>mfw my internet goes out after making good progress in it
I still don't understand why this is a thing.
Is it really that hard to just allow POTD instances to stay up during DCs like multiplayer instances? Just make it reset the current floor's progress (but keep the same floor effects and treasure seeds) when someone D/Cs.
I watched a friend's run die on floor 199, only a few hits away from killing the last monster that was needed, because a patrol offscreen walked into aggro range. It was some fricked shit like no items + no abilities + gloom, I don't remember exactly. And there had been multiple no items + no abilities floors before that, so none of the poms that get rid of floor modifiers were left.
Fandaniel ended up being a very compelling character, it helps his actual voice is miles better than Asahi's cringy voice.
Am I the only one who finds the concept that all other alien civilizations had fallen actually horrifying?
Doesn't help the Ancients were slowly heading down the exact same path as the third world in the Dead Ends.
yeah that was a pretty cool reveal. i like it way more than meteion encountering Black personman in the cosmos like i initially thought during her freakout.
I thought it was aliens at first but the reveal was pretty cool. I like that sort of existential horror theme. Dragon's Dogma has a similar vibe to it.
Ancients would've become the the dudes at the end with Rala where as the omnicrons are what garleans could've become.
>The global community wiped everyone out with nukes, including themselves
>Garleans in the bad end timeline wiped everyone out with gas attacks, including themselves
Kino.
Main thing they need to fix is the dungeons, they are literally just formulaic hallways with braindead mobs inbetween and three bosses.
this is the worst shit about this game, everything is so formulaic it gets tedious as frick
jesus christ give me even a dungeon with 2 bosses and 1 pull inbetween, give me a dungeon that starts with a boss fight instead of a pack, make a dungeon in an arena where you fight wave after wave
please make something different holy frick it's all the same shit
You can't do that or people are gonna COMPLAAAAIN that they cant turn their brain off and not play the game while jacking off in their roulette
Pretty much what I was thinking, just ways to shake up how dungeons are structured.
Guess we will have to see with the criterion dungeons.
unironically the only sane dungeon rework post i've ever seen thats not people asking for spaghetti hallway simulator
i could wait a fricking decade and still get bored with these samey dungeons.
No matter how much you force this, the devs actively wants you to stay subbed all year long. Its why the patches are all drip fed through the season.
In fact, the real message here is: "Stay subbed, but dont play our game clogging the servers"
Just unsub, anon. That'll show 'em!
>drop game in HW
>return at the butt end of ShB
>dungeons are still the exact same shit
yeah amazing job you shit hack producer.
and what do you mean by that? the poster isn't bored because there aren't things to do, the poster is bored because they don't add variety to dungeons or MSQ like "hey this the last expansion of this storyline... what about if we add a fourth trial?"
>メジャーパッチがでたら一気にプレイして
First off, that doesn't translate as "to your heart's content," that's "play through it all at once." Except they also timegate each major patch across 2 months and still continue to add content that has daily/weekly progression. That quote is such a boldfaced lie.
Doesn't sound that bad
They did the waves of monster shit in Amdapor Keep Hard
But they tried something different with Steps of Faith and people reeee when they get it in roulette so they stopped trying after that.
Bardam's mettle had a cool fight in it later on, more things like that would be nice tbh
Casuals ruin everything. They never should have listened to those fricking crybabies.
They might change it up a bit with the criterion dugeons coming up.
I think 7.0 is going to bring something so that people don't have to pass MSQ to it.
It is impossible to attract new players when you have to tell them "Clear ARR+HW+SB+ShB+END+NEW EXPANSION" and we don't know how many more expansions the game will have so this problem will get worse and worse in the future.
As 7.0 is a new story, the best thing to do would be to start there at the same time as the job selection system, launching a gunfighter trailer for example to attract new players and when they arrive to the game they find that they have to level up to level 80 to play that job.
Never. Did you forgot they thrive on boosters and story skips?
Yes, and that for new players is even worse
>You buy a story skip to play endgame
>"Nice now I can play these raids"
>"You need to be level 90 and clear Endwalker"
>So even buying a boost you still have to level up and complete an expansion you don't have any shit of what's going on
I think they're gonna do a summary cutscene for the story up until the end of 6.0 and then start with the 6.1 MSQ, which is why the new lore journal thing starts there as well.
They can't even be assed to do job tutorials when you do a level skip, do you really believe they'd go through all that effort?
7.0 will require Endwalker
8.0 will require Endwalker and not 7.0
And so on
WoL should have died in the fight against Zenos. Then get replaced by a new protagonist in 7.0, with a completely new story and adventure afterwards that doesn't require you to play the story before that. Maybe even allow the player to choose a beast race to play with the new guy. It would have been kino. But it will never happen.
We did die but got brought back as a simulacrum through the power of prayer
Yeah, that's what the unending codex thingy is for.
Does anyone else think that FFXIV helped cure their autism? I played Shadowbringers and I’m pretty much Emet-Selch in real life, so I decided to try out things he did to gain the Scions trust and create empires. I started by approaching people and explaining my intention to understand them and work together and then walking away while waving my hand. I act snarky and mysterious like Emet and started wearing a fur coat around when I’m outside (I put some epaulets on it too). I’m getting close to gaining the trust of the girls in the apartment next door, I don’t they’ll expect it when I shoot them in the back.
Discord servers are like shards, where I can dive in and create chaos until everyone on the server hates each other and get involved in drama. That’s like tipping the balance between light and dark and I keep track of that too. Eventually the server will implode and that’s like me creating another calamity.
Basically, does anyone else do this stuff? I used to struggle with making friends and only kissed a girl once (she did not like it). But after playing Shadowbringers and seeing myself in Emet I definitely have become a lot cooler and more attractive.
>But after playing Shadowbringers and seeing myself in Emet I definitely have become a lot cooler and more attractive.
Is NIN or SAM more fun?
I think sam is more fun, but only because NIN requires you squeeze all your shit into CD windows and outside of that you're mostly saving resources which is boooooooooooring.
Can someone tell me why do all groups in PF ask for summoners to use Akh Morn in UwU? Why do they need one specific attack so bad?
pls respond
>chainsaw instakilled out of black mage lb
Shadowbringers is better.
i dont know if ffxiv:endwalker is the current favourite for GOTY but what I do know is that if you still haven't used a recruit a friend code on your account, here's your chance! let's get some good loot and help each other! try it! J5GAYQ56
Why have I been seeing so many FFXIV threads lately?
>lately
FFXIV is a cultural phenomenon
For the same reasons there are tons of Genshin Impact threads : they are mediocre games that appeal to the lowest common denominator (the majority).
it has been getting daily threads since asmongold started played the game last year because now almost all the ex-wowgays are playing it
nah its been going on way longer than that, they just didn't get spammed nearly as hard
I got into it because of Ganker threads before Asmongold did. In fact, I think Bellular's friend got into it because of these threads as well and then they started shilling the game which made Asmongold cave in and try it out.
>mods are wow gays that delete ffxiv threads on sight
>ffxivgays bait mods by constantly spamming ffxiv threads
it's an endless battle
>that delete ffxiv threads on sight
i wish
New to Ganker?
Nah, Endwalker is a 7/10 at best. I may be one of the few people who doesn't suffer from sunk cost fallacy and I can judge this game without bias. It may be the best MMO but again it doesn't mean shit where the genre is dead, I don't understand why morons even use this argument. (Planetside 2 is a better MMO)
>(Planetside 2 is a better MMO)
I hate shooter games, so nah.
>I'm not a troony I just like to crossdress in my programmer socks and delete posts I don't like on Ganker like any normal healthy homozexual male with Type 2 Monkeypox!
why do you have pictures like this saved on your computer
Why do you intentionally leave out capitalization and punctuation to try and seem aloof and disinterested?
i've never seen this type of paranoid schizophrenia yet
Sometimes I feel like schizophrenia is the only word you "people" know.
you're scared about peoples punctuation on a chinese basket weaving forum, you should maybe go see a psychiatrist or something
>scared
LOL, you freaks are always projecting fear onto every single criticism aimed toward you.
what criticism did you even give, all you did was complain about me not using punctuation because your brain instantly thinks that means someone is disinterested
No no, it means you're trying to pretend to be disinterested. You're going out of your way to drop typing habits because you want to project an image of being above the situation. Basically, you're a homosexual.
you are genuinely mentally unwell if you think like this
Getting called out on it really got under your skin, huh?
You sure got his ass schizo-kun
>minimalistic ms paint tranime reaction pic
you're a walking stereotype
bruh look at this terminally online schizo
meds now
Bring back The Feast
The people you should avoid are those who speak in faux-apathetic lowercaps at all times. To be clear, I'm not talking about people who speak without grammar in game in order to get their messages out faster. I'm talking about those who sit down to compose an image board post with all the time in the world and willfully choose to omit punctuation and capitalization. They are not doing this to save time. In fact, they may take additional time to redact habitual grammar from their posts.
Their motivation for this style of posting is simple. They are trying to present an aura of apathy. They want to communicate: "I don't care about anything, least of all the rules of grammar." The reason they work so hard to cultivate this image of emotional invulnerability is because they are, in actual fact, extremely emotional and unstable people. If you become close to them you will catch glimpses of the volatility lurking beneath their patchwork mask of cool indifference. The lowercaps poster will silently catalog transgressions you have in its eyes committed. You will only become aware of them during the rare tantrum blowups that characterize these people. They must be avoided for your own good. The faux-apathetic lowercaps posters really could not be more pathetic.
heh cool not reading all that though
Is there a chance to see Jack in XIV?
If Jack was the MC of FFXIV he would halve the length of the MSQ just by ignoring all of the gay monologues.
As if the story makes up for the trash gameplay
Why don't they put whoever designed PvP 6.1 job changes in charge of 6.2 PvE job changes? In my opinion they did a good job with PvP.
Same people. In fact, the same 4 people.
They only got to change PVP this way because it was an irredeemable trashfire before that. Its still not great by the way.
If they actually designed PVE like the PVP, as in give every job actual unique tools every homosexual player of this game would shit his diapers so hard they'd revert it back in an hour. This playerbase has been pushing for nothing but homogenization for ages. And thats what they are getting. Everything is the same boring shit.
The netcode really hurts the PVP, it feels like shit to have everything so delayed.
because parsegays would b***h if the jobs were fun and viable but not 100% balanced
thats actually the cool part. as it is they sacrificed so many unique aspects in the name of balance, but parsetrannies still b***h, so it was all done with no actual benefits. nobody is pleased.
god dammit i went to sleep hoping this thread would be full of hypno porn when i woke up and instead its autists arguing about job balance for 300 posts
please sleep permanently
Some day, my friend
if you want porn, /xivg/ is your way. The game is trash and the bait threads in Ganker will only be echoing the same thing.
haha imagine the reactions from healcucks if PvE DRK's could sacrifice health for damage like real FF dark knights
That would elevate it to uncontested best job in the game.
>play Jack's game
>Souleater drains HP to use
>Blood Weapon drains HP from the enemy on hit
>Souleater damage increase is so powerful that my Blood Weapon hits actually restore more than the Souleater is draining
There, a perfectly acceptable DRK for PvE content. Give them Dread Spikes for more protection and HP drain. I fricking hate this game's job design.
Fricking anything would have been better than just giving up and turning it into shittier WAR. Fricking homosexualass devs.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT IT MEANS DRK WONT BE DESIGNED IN THE EXACT SAME WAY THE OTHER 3 TANKS ARE SO THEY WONT BE INTERCHANGEABLE IN ALL CONTENT AT ALL TIME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DRK is also much more fun there
poast cat-gorl feet
we are getting playable birds in the next expansion right bros?
we are getting female hrothgars ...
kill me
That's next expac? Not a patch update?
when did ff14 classes start to become so homogenized?
the game basically has 5 classes
4 of which are dps
For people who couldn't even beat that solo duty with the unknown soldier because it was too hard
It started in Stormblood but really Shadowbringers sealed the deal. It's there that all healers got gutted down to 1 dot + 1 cast.
around/after stormblood.
If you look at the content available in that expansion you can tell they were trying all sorts of things even within the constrained battle format that ffxiv had (this was because they offloaded most of their heavensward team to FF16 and hired new people).
But people weren't happy with how that format was because certain classes were considered 'bad' and being excluded in higher end content so they polished it up in shadowbringers and it became homogenized.
The color wheel designates that her eyes should be yellowish.
>COLOR THEORY!!!!!!!!!
>thought this guy was making fun of people making dumb faces online.
>he's not doing ironically
another disappointment
>dogshit weebshit
>goty
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