Literally that Eren was a loser and pathetic just like him. I know that sounds like a backhanded shitpost but I'm actually not making that up. If you're really really interested then I'll track down the interview. Point being Yams always struggled with self-esteem and expectation so he put a lot of that into Eren. The time skip was supposed to be Eren pretending to be harder than he actually was. The problem is that the arguments Eren was making after the time skip made total sense within the context of what they were dealing with. So now we have a situation where the character we're supposed to be pushed away from is actually the only one saying things and trying to come up with a plan of action that isn't stand around hoping something good will just happen out of the aether. So when we get to the last chapter and Eren is crying because he couldn't frick his sister who was desperately trying to frick him for the entirety of the series, and Yams says "Eren is back," everyone who isn't treating this series like a romance anime is looking at him and asking "what the FRICK are you talking about?" What about the war? Was there just no answer to the generational hatred between Eldians and everyone else? If there isn't then why are you totally changing Eren's motivations at the last second? Didn't he say he was doing this so everyone he knows and loves will live freely? But all of that gets ignored because something something Ymir? We've only known this character for like 2 chapters, why the frick is he pulling a Zetsu here? But Yams has doubled down and said the ending we got was always planned. So that's the story.
>But Yams has doubled down and said the ending we got was always planned.
There's no way, dude very clearly backpedaled when he got the whole "Eren is literally Hitler, why are you glorifying him?" thrown at him.
The regular sangheili military is in shambles after Halo 3, lacking in both manpower and ships.
Them sending their females along humans on a joint-force operation on a planet would make sense at that specific point in time.
Imagine being stuck for a few months on some planet with a few hundreds of attention, touch, and sex-starved sangheili females haha
Kino. Make it hapen GABEN. We want HALO 4 DEAD with the flood. "GET TO THE PELICAN!" "A Magnum? I feel like Master Chief!" "What is this, Ayn Rand International Spaceport?"
>Stationed on one of the last UNSC ships still in orbit, the Navy was fricked hard from what you've been told, but resistance is still fleeting few reinforcements arrive from out of system. >Your squadmates share the same mood as you, the atmosphere is solemn and hopeless, the last bastion of humanity has been discovered and it feels as if the clock struck midnight. >The squad lead walks in, beckoning the lot of you to gather around the table as a holographic display lights up, casting a blue glow around the pod bay. >"Alright, you all know what's going on" SL drones as before, you've already been through this briefing thrice before and your mind begins to drift off to pastures unseen. >You ponder that the plan makes no sense to drop onto a covenant ship, but there's not much else you can do from orbit anyhow, the hope of being able to blast a split lip is all you have. >"Lets git to it" A familiar tone knocks you back into the present, as the SL has finishes his spiel, the squad splits off to their own pods independently. >Slinging your M7S over your shoulder as you walk and pass navy personnel, you note that nobody else has talked either. >The M7 slots into the pod nicely, but the hum of the ship increases and you feel the G-forces churn your stomach as the pod bay intercom crackles to life. >The SL marches to an intercom and contacts someone on the bridge, "The hell is going on? We're supposed to be jumping in 3 minutes." >"We can't do that now, we have covenant ships jumping nearby and we cannot afford to lose more naval assets, anyone who is ready is immediately dropping" >A sigh of relief and disappointment simultaneously falls over you, although the thought of the current Helljumpers having their numbers crippled sends a chill up your spine, they're gonna need every man they can get for CQB on a Covie ship.
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>you gonna post the rest of the fanfic or are you going to link it on AO3 bud? Don't just leave the thread hanging
Im working on it give me a sec, im not normally a writegay
Alright man, we have high hopes. Don't forget to put your work down in notepad. Last thing you want to do is lose any progress after accidentally closing a tab
Keep the thread alive while im working aight? But no promises this'll be good, just autism filled
7 months ago
Anonymous
>have received 0 bytes of orders from our shipside command since our squad took heavy casualties planetside, did those bastards flee the system? >you're on listening post duty a few hundred meters out into the brush covered in mud and scanning the vicinity... oh crap! >you look around and they've got you surrounded on all sides, if you make a move you're a goner >ah, it's a squad of covenant survivors, seems like the grunts didn't make it... or any of the males? they're missing a few armor pieces in... critical places... >"I come in peace" you proclaim with your hands raised, you can't think of any snappy one liners. damn, you look like a fool >two of them approach you with their guns raised, and a third tosses their plasma to the side, ah crap, you should've said something from that book of common sangheili phrases they issued you years ago >the unarmed one pounces you and the other two start taking off their armor pieces as they loom over you, now laid flat >"You'll come alright"
Don't worry, the autism is what makes it work. I'm serious about the notepad thing for real though, if you accidentally close a browser tab you'll still have the backup if you just copy paste it without even saving the .txt
>The only thing you can do now is sit around and hope the Captain knows what he's doing, would be a shame if you got vented out into space without seeing combat. >A nap in the pod sounds good, although it hurts your back like hell, the only alternatives are the metal benches lit by the holographic display still casting a blue light. >Everyone else appears to follow your lead while you settle down, although Haggard and Sweetwater wander off to god knows where. >It's hard to fall asleep with the Guillotine hovering over you, but eventually you succumb to rest as you hear the Archer missile pods fire. >An alarm wakes you, and your vision is clouded in red, the lights are intense, but your instincts kick in as fast as the adrenaline allows you to evaluate the situation. >Looks like the compartment was sealed from damage in an adjacent room, you're now trapped with your squadmates scrambling themselves to address the situation. >"WHERE'S HAGGARD AND SWEETWATER?" The new guy shouts, Marlowe, if you remember correctly. >"DON'T KNOW, BUT WE GOT TO LEAVE" SL barks, "WE GOT TO BAIL!" >You check your watch, you slept for an hour and could be anywhere in orbit, looking down the glass flooring you appear to be over Europe. >The familiar feeling of the SOEIV brace on your chest and your breastplate are the only comforts you have while the pod seals itself, muffling the alarms in the ship. >A rotation shifts your view externally, as the pod racks simultaneously descend, showing you a purple and grey field of space debris. >Escape pods launch from somewhere above you, encased by flames as they make the dash for planetside while chased by plasma lances, few make it through. >A loud CHUNK reverberates the pod, as you enter freefall, feet first into hell. >The pod window is encased by flames, the violent shaking is not a comforting feeling, and your head is met with a splitting pain as you lose consciousness.
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>You awaken in the dark, surrounded by glowing skyscrapers that reach above the clouds, the air is cold and mixed with black smoke lit by the buildings near them, although the immediate buildings around you are all two-story bricks. >Pulling the release handle causes bolts to fire, violently forcing the door to bounce around 20 feet forwards off the concrete as you stumble out. >You collapse onto your hands and knees, your stomach forces out what little contents it had onto the pavement. >The smell of burned human bodies assaults your nose while you took off your helmet for fresh air, quickly throwing it back on. >Breathe, breathe, take a moment to breathe. >Stand up, grab your gun. >Good, now where are you? >Your VISR isnt working as your neurolink attempts to activate your HUD, no ammo counter, no GPS, no NVG's, you'll have to do this the old fashioned way. >"Do what?" Crosses your mind, you don't even know where you are currently, could be any city of the hundreds if not thousands on Earth. >There are English signs around you, and the current wager is based off of Europe, England you think, London being a likely candidate. >Anywhere is better than here, the plasma burned civie bodies are a grizzly sight, as you walk down a randomly picked street. >Among human bodies are also alien ones, although its odd that it's mostly split lips considering that they're usually the leader and there's a lack of Brutes among them too, you crouch down to inspect a body. >By the looks of it, this one died from plasma burns, upon further inspection from more bodies, all have signs of being killed by Covenant weapons too, spikes, needles, even carbine bolts. >The Brutes show similar results, although you're not a detective, the evidence points to an extremely short firefight at point blank range, almost like an ambush of some kind, most likely human you think.
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>Doesn't look like anyone has scavenged here though, if partisans were the cause of this, the carbines would've been stripped for ammo, as well as charged weapons being snagged by whoever. >You sit there crouching among bodies, pondering. >A beam rifle echos from the distance, met by brute spikers alongside them, while quickly double checking your gun, you can tell the sound is coming from the alleyway to your right. >Foregoing the element of surprise, you sprint toward the sound of gunfire, hopeful to meet up with partisans or even better, marines who are just scavenging weapons, maybe you can get a replacement helmet if you're really lucky. >The chattering and blasts gets louder as the alleyway opens up into a plaza of identical brick buildings, with a gazebo in the center occupied by Brutes and Grunts firing at a two story across from them, and distinctive beam of light cuts a brute down. >It's lucky that they're facing away from you, seems like you appeared behind them and they're preoccupied by a sniper across the plaza, if you aren't careful you might get shot by an ally though. >You ready your frag grenades as you count out the aliens, 2 Brutes and 4 Grunts surrounded by bodies, looks like the sniper did good work on their own. >Two grenades ought to do the trick, as they rolled, you find yourself ducking behind a small brick fence, panicked shouts of Grunts and the ape-like roars of brutes meet your ears before two explosions silence any opposition. >Slowly emerging from your cover, you march up to the bodies, double tapping each of the them with a silenced 5x23mm to the cranium as you walk past, no louder than a cough. >The faintest of clicks is audible, your body automatically freezing as you wildly look around, feeling helpless without thermal vision like you normally would have. >Glancing at the building, you see the beam rifle trained at you, emanating another click before it's drawn back into the dark room.
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>Hitting the deck rewards you, as the occupant had drawn a plasma rifle in the time you froze like an idiot, with waves of heat washing over the cover as you lay on your back, gun in hand. >Much like the Brutes you killed earlier, you're trapped in an open plaza with nowhere to fall back to, your cover is likely being burned through too. >Reaching down your left thigh to the magnetic attachment point, you grip the one smoke grenade you have, cursing UNSC logistics for not providing more, make it count. >Ramming the button with all of your might, you then chuck the smoke grenade in-between you and the assailant, a plume of white mixed with metal bits that looks identical to glitter. >Waiting a second before emerging proves lady luck and your gut were on your side, as plasma impacts right where you would've been standing. >Quickly hopping over the nearly burned-through fence, you charge into the smoke with M7S raised and adrenaline pumping as you approximate nearing the door, speed would be a wise decision right about now. >You ram yourself through the empty doorway, charging up the stairs with gun leveled and flashlight on, whoever it is will know you're coming either way. >The wooden floor creaks as you push forward on the second floor, gun mounted light trained on the doorway where the sniper should be, your hand hovers over the last frag grenade you have, but you double down and firmly grip your gun. >Walking past a small bathroom has you met with a freight train, or what feels like one at least, sending you through the wooden railing and down the stairs. >"That's not human!" Your mind screams while tumbling, when you reach the bottom your M7S is nowhere to be found, and you attempt to grab the M6C on your waist. >Another impact beats you to the punch, or kick at least, throwing you into the wall next to the doorway.
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Anonymous
>The only thing you can do is play dead and hope they believed to have crushed you, although you still should be able to see your assailant with your black visor. >Keeping still while your eyes look up, you see a looming blue split lip, you see a boot on your sidearm, with your M7S behind them up the stairs. >They stare at you for what feels like an eternity before prodding your seemingly lifeless body. >Splashes of red light and yellow flares fills your vision, the split lip pedaling backwards up the stairs while grabbing their plasma rifle, barely being able to use human steps. >After they're out of eyesight, you lean left and look out the doorway, met with the sight of another Brute squad, these ones have made much more headway than the last. >Self preservation kicks in as they near the entrance, tossing your last grenade at the Brutes to slow them down while you lurch forwards retrieve your weapons. >Grabbing your M6 and a quick glance informs you that it appears functional, but you continue to dash halfway up the stairs for the M7. >A Grunty bark alerts you right as your hand meets the SMG, you spin around on the stairs, sliding down a bit while spraying the bastard, stopping him cold. >A plasma grenade erupts outside, causing a Brute to be enraged and charge inside, met with the rest of your magazine, although at least one more are coming in. >Dropping your M7, you magdump whatever was in the doorway, before being crushed by a dead Brute, you're stuck on the stairs, laying on your back with a 1000lb monkey on top of you.
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7 months ago
Anonymous
brutes? I hope anyone wasn't nurturing a boner about HUMAN MALES BUILT TO BE INTERROGATED AS PRISONERS OF WAR BY SANGHEILI FEMALES hahah sure would be funny if you remembered halo infinite's disastrous launch
7 months ago
Anonymous
>The sounds of battle eventually stop, leaving a dreadful feeling as the creaking of wooden boards alerts you to the split lip, you also haven't managed to load your sidearm again. >"Don't play dead, I know you're alive human." >Your blood runs cold, more than ever before as you look up, craning your head around the dead body of the Brute as a chuckle meets your ears. >You look at the blue figure, frozen in the headlights. >"I believe you saved my life, although we are at war I owe you this much," They said before effortlessly pushing the body off of you. >You incoherently stammer for a second while slowly getting up, handgun halfway trained on the alien, silently facing each other. >Eventually a question races across your mind, the only thing you can say now, "why were you fighting?" You try your best to sound confident, but you are facing a half ton lizard when a shove would send you tumbling down the stairs. >"I dont know, they attacked us," It responds. >You manage to get another question out, "Why are you helping me?" >"You helped me." >It feels like an eternity before you eventually begin to think properly, its not unlikely your brain was scrambled by those impacts, and you grab your SMG from under the monkey. >"Do you know where any humans are?" You ask, maybe some partisans or police officers are still around, but the quietly burning city isn't much of a comfort, especially as the sound of a phantom nears. >The figure shakes there head, "No, we were thorough," before turning at the sound of the dropship, a dark comment, but trouble is inbound >"Alright.." You manage to say, slowly making your way towards the back of the house, "That sounds like bad business so I'll head out." >After glancing outside, the split lip nods their head, "I don't have access to my tac-map, so for now you lead me out of here and then we head our separate ways."
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7 months ago
Anonymous
>Silently you lead them out the backdoor, into the alleyway as the dropship lands in the courtyard, your jogging speed seems effortless as they easily keep pace through the winding paths. >After approx 6 miles of jogging (with gear on mind you) you duck into a dark convenience store, looks like looters already broke into the place but were chased off later on. >The feeling of being followed by a split lip has had your nerves going off constantly, and you feel an attempt is needed to lighten the mood, "So uh, what's you name?" You ask. >They think for a second, and you notice that they're almost touching the lights hanging off the ceiling just by standing up. >"Jeel'ah." >"Well uh, that doesn't sound like an intimidating name for a dude," You receive a glare in response. >"I am not a 'dude' human," Jeel'ah snorts, "Why are we here anyways human?" >You gesture at the assortments of snacks, foods, drinks, and alchohol in the tiny store, "Hey, all I have here is a shitty MRE, and I'd rather ha-," You are hit with a brainfart, "You're a chick?" >She nods. >"Huh, well, we're here so I can pick up some food and probably a drink, I don't know where we are but who knows how long this shit will last," You then drop your backpack, opening it up and beginning to load it with supplies for the foreseeable future, about an hour or so by your calculations. >Eventually, you toss Jeel'ah a bag of chips after donning your combat pack, "I think this is a good point to split off, as far as I know, we're both lost and wont have to deal with each other." >"I'll follow you for now" She states, inspecting the bright yellow bag you tossed, "We're both in enemy territory for now, and its best to have two pairs of eyes, and that heartbeat sensor on your helmet." >Mulling it over for a second, you agree with a slow nod, this doesn't sound like a choice.
Im gonna head off for a bit but i'll be back eventually if yall care
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not bad work anon. Please do save it and continue it in a later haLOL thread.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I think it could be better, I'll have to modify it quite a bit cause I think 2k limited me alot
7 months ago
Anonymous
Interested in more, not bad at all for a quick one
Unironically, Microsoft has started. They finally fired Bonnie Ross, replaced her with someone who seems to actually play Halo. Fired most of the staff of 343.
So now the reconstruction effort has begun, will it be better? Will it be even worse? Only time will tell. But it was the right move to gut all of 343. Because they've had the Halo franchise longer than Bungie, and have yet to make 1 iconic game.
If Microsoft really wanted to attempt to repair the damage done to Halo as a franchise, they would completely fire every last person at 343 and close the studio, opening a new one. Then they'd reboot it, retconning everything 343 ever did. They wouldn't just "gut" it.
-dismantle 343 and fire everyone, do NOT move them to different departments
-stop outsourcing EVERYTHING to save a nickel
-stop having the majority of the plot happen offscreen and in books, why the frick is nu-Halo using the FNAF model?
-stop chasing current trends and instead refine the basics and add original, innovative and genuinely positive changes
-stop chasing e-sports, this is what killed OW. Just make the mutliplayer FUN
-bring back screenscreen co-op
-have everything ready AT LAUNCH
-ditch the F2P model, it does not work and makes the multiplayer way worse. Microsoft already has Gamepass, nickel and diming for the most inane shit just makes everyone hate you
-hire people that actually fricking like Halo and don't want to wrap the series into their own twisted dumpster fire
The sad reality is that Halo will always be dead even if they implement every single one of these changes. The decade+ of 343 damaged the IP to the point of unrecoverable ruin, just like how Xbox is a permanently damaged brand.
halo is dead and will likely be for a long time. Some anon here months ago talked about how they might use the TV show to reboot halo again since the 343 era was a disaster.
Gameplay in Infinite was actually very solid and fun. The people in charge simply weren't halo fans, that's all it comes down to. You think that one lady running the show actually nerds out on halo and has been for 10+ years? Same question for the writers of the game, etc.
infinite was trash, it took them like 8 months to realize oh frick we need big team battle in a halo game? with vehicles?
the weapon placement and maps were almost all trash on every mode, launching without the ability to join random people's lobbies after a game which was in halo 3 to play custom games is also unforgivable
and the reason this all happened was because they outsourced everything to asiatics
it wasn't really though, the new weapons were all bad, everything was a spammy chokepoint mess without a way to break the stalemate because there were no real power weapons or vehicles on any of the maps. plus they made the same mistake with MCC and only had really shitty open maps to pick from so every match was just morons spamming from across the map until they ran out of ammo
not to mention >free to play
NOBODY on your team knows what to do, ever, TF2 casual is a disaster out side of capture points because of this. So you can't even really carry your team because no power weapons, no vehicles.
Most of the fun in old halos was getting good enough to frick on kids by learning the maps and holding power weapon spawns, gone.
>the new weapons were all bad
Nah, the skewer is great. When they finally come through and mass-fire everyone at 343 I hope the guy who came up with the Skewer is allowed to stay
The forerunner hard-light bouncy shotgun was also pretty neat, all the other weapons can frick off though. Especially the electric ones
I could see Halo having minor success as a licensed property. Expect a slew of mediocre to good, but never excellent, spinoff games from different studios.
The Halo universe is big enough to handle basically any kind of military genre you can think of and I have no idea why Microsoft hasn't been bothered to try and leverage that outside of Halo Wars and its belated sequel. Even Gears of War of all things got a really solid XCOM-like.
The death of Halo is a meme. Halo 1 to 3 established that 343 Guilty Spark was an AI that went rampant and betrays the hero out of his misguided sense of duty. Microsoft post Bungie creates a new studio named after this betrayer. It goes onto destroy the franchise, betraying the fans (the heroes) and their expectations at every opportunity, out of their misguided sense of duty that the universe needs to be expanded and everyone needs to be humanized and made inclusive of each others political morality.
The only way to recover the franchise at this point would be to reboot Halo 4 and write off everything since the end of Halo 3 as being a hallucination of Cortana during her rampancy dreams that were occurring during the year or so the stern half of Forward Unto Dawn was floating in space. A future that could have been but never was.
>I wonder if it’s all just a reference or if they actually tried/are trying to build a connected universe.
there isn't a difference I find. the quality is in the depth of meaning of those references in either case.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There is, one affects how the world is and functions while the others just a little nod to another series or work. It’s like if someone where’s a Superman shirt in Spider-Man. It’s not the same as Superman actually existing in the setting.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I see that, but this is clearly not one of those cases. Here I feel the spider-man shirt is meaningful to superman
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah but ultimately Spider-man in that scenario would just be a fictional works and not something that exists in the word. It’s like when Frankenstein did it with the Sorrows of Young Werther. Werther is still a fictional character where in the other scenario he would have just been a guy.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If the marathon logo is fictional in the setting of halo that just makes it more of a mindfrick that it keeps appearing in forerunner architecture and symbols. If it's not a meta narrative and a simple out of universe reference for the audience then I feel like they mishandled that aspect by strongly implying it is a meta narrative element and I would think lesser of the series as a result.
Ya. Really reframes the whole humanity vs covenant and cyclical flood genocide thing
Not exactly. Rampancy isn't a higher form of sanity, as that's still a schizo phase. You have to survive rampancy and emerge out from the other side into meta-stability. THAT is a higher form of sanity. 343i is the rampant AI, it failed to achieve meta-stability. Meta-stability in this case implies that Halo lives, but Halo has instead died. Thus, like Mendicant Bias, the franchise succumbed to the logic plague and the Forerunner empire burned.
meta stability is the state you orbit while you think like a schizo for the rest of your life, yeah? that's what it means to not be subject to the logic plague. your thinking is entropic enough to not succumb to it, but stable enough not to self terminate
No, meta-stability means you basically regain your sanity while retaining basically post-singularity type ascension in thinking power. You're no longer a schizo but have the godhood when you were schizo. The best of both worlds.
sideline chief. new white male spartan and hot pseudo-naked AI on ONI ship (with crew, marine, and ODST compliment) going around the galaxy dealing with "problems"
Halo gameplay and style of multiplayer just doesn't appeal to people anymore. The only way to save it is to do what all other shooters do: add rpg elements. Master Chief needs a talent tree. Weapons need stats. Multiplayer needs to be a battle royal.
Master chief and Cortana had love for eachother, sure, but it wasn't eros.
The writers trying to force it into some kind of romantic love is fricking awful, and especially with all the fricking character drama and other bullshit they are adding to it.
It’s kind of weird too, like he fell in love with the younger version of the woman who took him from his home and turned him into a super soldier. If he really wanted that he could have just gone for Miranda.
This guy's videos are great, I was put off by the cartoon narrator at first but they're extremely well-researched and presented.
This is my favorite Halo video of all time, it does a great job explaining what 343 did to the lore and why Frank O'Connor is a fricking moron
>Cartoon guy rantsona >Isn't like every youtubegay who commissioned 5 static poses or expressions >Actually animates, moves, has expressions, points, talks with his hands, and lips moving as he speaks or sounds any verbal noises.
Very weird, but I dig it. Literally never seen this before.
Is it really winning when she takes you to his grave every weekend and likes to pretend you're him and your kids with hers are actually his and hers? In the epilogue doesn't she die at his grave too? He got full on titanic'd at the end. She's dreaming about finding eren in the afterlife and going >jean who?
Funny part is eren probably knows what she did and he's completely fricking done with her, so that'd be an interesting scenario. I always figured if he still retained any of ymirs power and was stuck with her he'd be railing her adult form for millenia after that shit, if only out of anger. Which is apparently how Ymir likes it.
>Is Halo a dead franchize?
Yes. It has been for just over a decade now. >How do we save this pile of garbage?
No one can do anything but Microsoft. I can't believe 343i still exists as we know it. They should've been put on notice after The Master Chief Collection was released as it was. HOW do you frick up literally just copy/pasting someone else's work? Well, 343 found a way. And just when we thought that was the very bottom of the pit, Halo 5 releases. As far as I am concerned, 343 should've been at the very least rebuilt top to bottom after that steaming pile of shit. But they continue.
I was dumb enough to have an inkling of hope for Infinite just because them delaying the game in response to public outcry actually showed me they were listening for once. I didn't hate Infinite, but I was so indifferent towards it I really don't even care if it exists at all. 343 put a lot into that game, and that was the best emotion they could evoke out of me, a moron who has played this franchise since CE on original Xbox when I was 10 years old.
Reach should've been the last game. It was, as far as I am concerned. I know people had their issues with Reach multiplayer, but the campaign was a hell of a sendoff. That final mission, the music, it hits harder knowing that that really was the end of the franchise. I didn't know it back then, I was so sure someone else would come along and be the keeper of the flame.
Pretty crazy how much brand damage Microsoft has inflicted on Halo. Best to end John’s story and go in the direction of Reach, but if they had any decency they’d give the whole thing a rest as Microsoft has proven time and time again they are incapable of shipping complete products of expected quality.
Its not Microsoft's fault. It is entirely on 343's shoulders. These games are flawed at the core. It'd be one thing if we had a situation where a game released and it was good, but felt just a little under-cooked from budgetary or time restraints. Then, yeah, I'd be right there with you calling for Microsoft's head. Like Fallout: New Vegas, for example, was a great game but you could clearly tell from all the cut content Bethesda was pushing way too hard (not surprising at all if you know anything about Bethesda, they love to rush games out before they're good and ready).
I'm willing to give half the blame to Microsoft for the MCC releasing in the complete shit state it did. But I will be screaming curses to 343 to the day I die. They're the most inept devs I have ever fricking seen. They took a franchise that was riding high, and drove it into irrelevance. They couldn't even re-release the old games correctly. That's like trying to have a nice day because you're depressed at how useless you feel, then you go and tie your noose wrong, fall, and get hospitalized for a broken leg.
I'm at a point where I'd rather have no more Halo games.
But if there has to be one, then I'd want minimal experimentation. Nothing fancy, no "our take" on anything, no wacky new subsystem that will help differentiate our game from all the others. Please for the love of god just make a Halo game. >Aesthetic
Infinite honestly wasn't bad, just use that. Nobody wants photo-realism in Halo, save some budget here. >Gameplay
As close to Halo 3 as possible, but with slightly faster movement, Infinite-style equipment, and no dual-wielding. When in doubt, play it safe. Playtest the shit out of it in multiple rounds of open beta, listen to what people have to say >Maps
Just do a "best-of" collection of old maps. There are plenty of good ones, pick 12-16 maps. From there, adopt the TF2 strategy and give the community map tools, then official-ize the best ones. >Progression
Copy Halo 3. Everyone is so fricking sick of challenges, ladders, and battle passes. Make a fun game and people will keep returning.
Put armor pieces, profile medals, etc behind achievements so that the way you look means something.
If they must release armor DLC, make them collections of achievements instead of a 100-tier thing. >Story
This is hard because they can't just copy the old games. I don't care about the story at this point, I want a blank slate. No throwbacks or cameos. Personally I'd want a full retcon of 4+, leave MC in cryo, and focus on a new Spartan exploring Forerunner shit in the post-war era with a CE-style atmosphere of mystery. But I'd say go with anything as long as it's good and sticks to fundamentals. >Improve Game Lobbies
THIS is where the innovation will be. Reach explored how a game lobby can be a social space - expand on that. Can players customize the lobby itself? How do players like presenting themselves? Can they interact with each other in the lobby?
Do some crazy experimental shit here, get people out of their private discord calls and into the moment.
>dead franchise
Good. It better be dead. The very concept of franchises should die. See, the way things are: someone comes up with a neat idea and a nice game comes out. And a sequel, and another, and another, and another, and another -- and at some point you realize they're just trying to squeeze everything out of a famous title, long after it's been dried out.
Enough of this shit. A story must reach its end, and then FRICKING END. No more sequels to things that don't need sequels. Go create something original, you soulless corporate parasites!
the doc even comments on it possibly being a guess lol. and then they kidnap him and replace him with a clone thatll die of organ failure slowly over a few weeks so his parents have to deal with thinking their son fricking died miserably lmao
Next game needs to be on a real Halo. As in the actual ring is rendered fully in game. At some point you blow the ring into pieces and visit the different pieces. Since the ring is real, you can break it in different ways.
It needs to be something big and compelling like that. The concept being core Halo gameplay is fundamentally perfect. So what is necessary is some large game mechanic abstraction that allows for more of pure Halo gameplay in a dynamic gameplay blender that fits in with the Halo universe.
Another way to do this:' convenant factions fighting each other as they fight you on a broken ring. The game's story leads you destroying the ring and then engaging in a risk style territory takeover of the disconnected ring pieces. Just copy Shadow of Mordor with general style nemesis characters..
I don't think you can to be honest.
Zoomers don't like the sandbox nature of Halo's gameplay unless it's in the form of a BR and you'll never make Boomers happy regardless of what you do so it might as well be dead.
Zoomers grew up with Halo at it's peak though and Infinite did huge numbers at launch even on PC, it just died because 343 are incompetent and couldn't add new maps or modes fast enough. It took weeks to even get a slayer playlist.
>Zoomers grew up with Halo at it's peak
Over half of them weren't even old enough or born to play Halo during it's peak, the 12 year olds who played Halo 3 back in the day are 28 now.
lmfao I don't even enjoy Halo's story all that much but this is making me mad. I don't know how the people in charge of Halo are so out of touch with literally fricking everything involving the franchise.
FRICK
That ODST trailer is so great, even that momentary shot of the drop to the battlefield does a great job of depicting what it would be like to be regular human in the war against the covenant.
All the og live action Halo was kino. Holy fricking shit I fricking hate what they’ve done to this series, the c**ts behind the grotesque tv show should be brutally tortured to death, same as everyone who worked on Halo after Reach. They were handed a fricking golden goose on a platter and the morons have done nothing but shit all over it’s legacy. Frick I hate them so much bros
Spin-off games. Take concepts that've floated around the internet for a while and make good on them: a game dedicated to Contact Harvest, with David Scully reprising Johnson. A more tactical shooter featuring Marine or ODST player characters against Insurrectionist and Covenant threats. Actually engage with the lore that exists and existed instead of just leaving it out to die.
You don't.
fpbp we should have an attack on titan ending thread instead
holy, shit, after all these years he still is fricking garbage at drawing.
fricking one has improved more than him.
zamn thats hot where can i support your patreon
I still can't believe how shit that ending was. What the frick was he thinking?
>I'm crashing this series with no survivors besides Floch
Literally that Eren was a loser and pathetic just like him. I know that sounds like a backhanded shitpost but I'm actually not making that up. If you're really really interested then I'll track down the interview. Point being Yams always struggled with self-esteem and expectation so he put a lot of that into Eren. The time skip was supposed to be Eren pretending to be harder than he actually was. The problem is that the arguments Eren was making after the time skip made total sense within the context of what they were dealing with. So now we have a situation where the character we're supposed to be pushed away from is actually the only one saying things and trying to come up with a plan of action that isn't stand around hoping something good will just happen out of the aether. So when we get to the last chapter and Eren is crying because he couldn't frick his sister who was desperately trying to frick him for the entirety of the series, and Yams says "Eren is back," everyone who isn't treating this series like a romance anime is looking at him and asking "what the FRICK are you talking about?" What about the war? Was there just no answer to the generational hatred between Eldians and everyone else? If there isn't then why are you totally changing Eren's motivations at the last second? Didn't he say he was doing this so everyone he knows and loves will live freely? But all of that gets ignored because something something Ymir? We've only known this character for like 2 chapters, why the frick is he pulling a Zetsu here? But Yams has doubled down and said the ending we got was always planned. So that's the story.
Honestly I wouldn’t have given a shit if he didn’t kill off Sasha.
>But Yams has doubled down and said the ending we got was always planned.
There's no way, dude very clearly backpedaled when he got the whole "Eren is literally Hitler, why are you glorifying him?" thrown at him.
Why is he saying it to Mercy though, he should be speaking to someone else about Mercy.
Editor frickery. Eren completing the rumbling was way too based to be true.
ODST 2 where you team up with a female sangheili
Female alien ass never because the people who made Halo are GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
The regular sangheili military is in shambles after Halo 3, lacking in both manpower and ships.
Them sending their females along humans on a joint-force operation on a planet would make sense at that specific point in time.
Imagine being stuck for a few months on some planet with a few hundreds of attention, touch, and sex-starved sangheili females haha
heeeelllll yeah I'd definitely make one my wife
L4D styled ODST game featuring an Elite. You're trapped in a city swarming with Flood and have to break out.
SHIELDS HERE! GRABBING SHIELDS!
Kino. Make it hapen GABEN. We want HALO 4 DEAD with the flood. "GET TO THE PELICAN!" "A Magnum? I feel like Master Chief!" "What is this, Ayn Rand International Spaceport?"
No fair, the Elite would get all the advantages
>Stationed on one of the last UNSC ships still in orbit, the Navy was fricked hard from what you've been told, but resistance is still fleeting few reinforcements arrive from out of system.
>Your squadmates share the same mood as you, the atmosphere is solemn and hopeless, the last bastion of humanity has been discovered and it feels as if the clock struck midnight.
>The squad lead walks in, beckoning the lot of you to gather around the table as a holographic display lights up, casting a blue glow around the pod bay.
>"Alright, you all know what's going on" SL drones as before, you've already been through this briefing thrice before and your mind begins to drift off to pastures unseen.
>You ponder that the plan makes no sense to drop onto a covenant ship, but there's not much else you can do from orbit anyhow, the hope of being able to blast a split lip is all you have.
>"Lets git to it" A familiar tone knocks you back into the present, as the SL has finishes his spiel, the squad splits off to their own pods independently.
>Slinging your M7S over your shoulder as you walk and pass navy personnel, you note that nobody else has talked either.
>The M7 slots into the pod nicely, but the hum of the ship increases and you feel the G-forces churn your stomach as the pod bay intercom crackles to life.
>The SL marches to an intercom and contacts someone on the bridge, "The hell is going on? We're supposed to be jumping in 3 minutes."
>"We can't do that now, we have covenant ships jumping nearby and we cannot afford to lose more naval assets, anyone who is ready is immediately dropping"
>A sigh of relief and disappointment simultaneously falls over you, although the thought of the current Helljumpers having their numbers crippled sends a chill up your spine, they're gonna need every man they can get for CQB on a Covie ship.
(Cont.)
"Weapons!"
"I'm grabbing an extra sidearm."
*bill blows his shoulder off dual wielding plasma pistols*
you gonna post the rest of the fanfic or are you going to link it on AO3 bud? Don't just leave the thread hanging
>you gonna post the rest of the fanfic or are you going to link it on AO3 bud? Don't just leave the thread hanging
Im working on it give me a sec, im not normally a writegay
Alright man, we have high hopes. Don't forget to put your work down in notepad. Last thing you want to do is lose any progress after accidentally closing a tab
Keep the thread alive while im working aight? But no promises this'll be good, just autism filled
>have received 0 bytes of orders from our shipside command since our squad took heavy casualties planetside, did those bastards flee the system?
>you're on listening post duty a few hundred meters out into the brush covered in mud and scanning the vicinity... oh crap!
>you look around and they've got you surrounded on all sides, if you make a move you're a goner
>ah, it's a squad of covenant survivors, seems like the grunts didn't make it... or any of the males? they're missing a few armor pieces in... critical places...
>"I come in peace" you proclaim with your hands raised, you can't think of any snappy one liners. damn, you look like a fool
>two of them approach you with their guns raised, and a third tosses their plasma to the side, ah crap, you should've said something from that book of common sangheili phrases they issued you years ago
>the unarmed one pounces you and the other two start taking off their armor pieces as they loom over you, now laid flat
>"You'll come alright"
Don't worry, the autism is what makes it work. I'm serious about the notepad thing for real though, if you accidentally close a browser tab you'll still have the backup if you just copy paste it without even saving the .txt
>The only thing you can do now is sit around and hope the Captain knows what he's doing, would be a shame if you got vented out into space without seeing combat.
>A nap in the pod sounds good, although it hurts your back like hell, the only alternatives are the metal benches lit by the holographic display still casting a blue light.
>Everyone else appears to follow your lead while you settle down, although Haggard and Sweetwater wander off to god knows where.
>It's hard to fall asleep with the Guillotine hovering over you, but eventually you succumb to rest as you hear the Archer missile pods fire.
>An alarm wakes you, and your vision is clouded in red, the lights are intense, but your instincts kick in as fast as the adrenaline allows you to evaluate the situation.
>Looks like the compartment was sealed from damage in an adjacent room, you're now trapped with your squadmates scrambling themselves to address the situation.
>"WHERE'S HAGGARD AND SWEETWATER?" The new guy shouts, Marlowe, if you remember correctly.
>"DON'T KNOW, BUT WE GOT TO LEAVE" SL barks, "WE GOT TO BAIL!"
>You check your watch, you slept for an hour and could be anywhere in orbit, looking down the glass flooring you appear to be over Europe.
>The familiar feeling of the SOEIV brace on your chest and your breastplate are the only comforts you have while the pod seals itself, muffling the alarms in the ship.
>A rotation shifts your view externally, as the pod racks simultaneously descend, showing you a purple and grey field of space debris.
>Escape pods launch from somewhere above you, encased by flames as they make the dash for planetside while chased by plasma lances, few make it through.
>A loud CHUNK reverberates the pod, as you enter freefall, feet first into hell.
>The pod window is encased by flames, the violent shaking is not a comforting feeling, and your head is met with a splitting pain as you lose consciousness.
(Cont.)
>You awaken in the dark, surrounded by glowing skyscrapers that reach above the clouds, the air is cold and mixed with black smoke lit by the buildings near them, although the immediate buildings around you are all two-story bricks.
>Pulling the release handle causes bolts to fire, violently forcing the door to bounce around 20 feet forwards off the concrete as you stumble out.
>You collapse onto your hands and knees, your stomach forces out what little contents it had onto the pavement.
>The smell of burned human bodies assaults your nose while you took off your helmet for fresh air, quickly throwing it back on.
>Breathe, breathe, take a moment to breathe.
>Stand up, grab your gun.
>Good, now where are you?
>Your VISR isnt working as your neurolink attempts to activate your HUD, no ammo counter, no GPS, no NVG's, you'll have to do this the old fashioned way.
>"Do what?" Crosses your mind, you don't even know where you are currently, could be any city of the hundreds if not thousands on Earth.
>There are English signs around you, and the current wager is based off of Europe, England you think, London being a likely candidate.
>Anywhere is better than here, the plasma burned civie bodies are a grizzly sight, as you walk down a randomly picked street.
>Among human bodies are also alien ones, although its odd that it's mostly split lips considering that they're usually the leader and there's a lack of Brutes among them too, you crouch down to inspect a body.
>By the looks of it, this one died from plasma burns, upon further inspection from more bodies, all have signs of being killed by Covenant weapons too, spikes, needles, even carbine bolts.
>The Brutes show similar results, although you're not a detective, the evidence points to an extremely short firefight at point blank range, almost like an ambush of some kind, most likely human you think.
(Cont.)
>Doesn't look like anyone has scavenged here though, if partisans were the cause of this, the carbines would've been stripped for ammo, as well as charged weapons being snagged by whoever.
>You sit there crouching among bodies, pondering.
>A beam rifle echos from the distance, met by brute spikers alongside them, while quickly double checking your gun, you can tell the sound is coming from the alleyway to your right.
>Foregoing the element of surprise, you sprint toward the sound of gunfire, hopeful to meet up with partisans or even better, marines who are just scavenging weapons, maybe you can get a replacement helmet if you're really lucky.
>The chattering and blasts gets louder as the alleyway opens up into a plaza of identical brick buildings, with a gazebo in the center occupied by Brutes and Grunts firing at a two story across from them, and distinctive beam of light cuts a brute down.
>It's lucky that they're facing away from you, seems like you appeared behind them and they're preoccupied by a sniper across the plaza, if you aren't careful you might get shot by an ally though.
>You ready your frag grenades as you count out the aliens, 2 Brutes and 4 Grunts surrounded by bodies, looks like the sniper did good work on their own.
>Two grenades ought to do the trick, as they rolled, you find yourself ducking behind a small brick fence, panicked shouts of Grunts and the ape-like roars of brutes meet your ears before two explosions silence any opposition.
>Slowly emerging from your cover, you march up to the bodies, double tapping each of the them with a silenced 5x23mm to the cranium as you walk past, no louder than a cough.
>The faintest of clicks is audible, your body automatically freezing as you wildly look around, feeling helpless without thermal vision like you normally would have.
>Glancing at the building, you see the beam rifle trained at you, emanating another click before it's drawn back into the dark room.
(Cont.)
>Hitting the deck rewards you, as the occupant had drawn a plasma rifle in the time you froze like an idiot, with waves of heat washing over the cover as you lay on your back, gun in hand.
>Much like the Brutes you killed earlier, you're trapped in an open plaza with nowhere to fall back to, your cover is likely being burned through too.
>Reaching down your left thigh to the magnetic attachment point, you grip the one smoke grenade you have, cursing UNSC logistics for not providing more, make it count.
>Ramming the button with all of your might, you then chuck the smoke grenade in-between you and the assailant, a plume of white mixed with metal bits that looks identical to glitter.
>Waiting a second before emerging proves lady luck and your gut were on your side, as plasma impacts right where you would've been standing.
>Quickly hopping over the nearly burned-through fence, you charge into the smoke with M7S raised and adrenaline pumping as you approximate nearing the door, speed would be a wise decision right about now.
>You ram yourself through the empty doorway, charging up the stairs with gun leveled and flashlight on, whoever it is will know you're coming either way.
>The wooden floor creaks as you push forward on the second floor, gun mounted light trained on the doorway where the sniper should be, your hand hovers over the last frag grenade you have, but you double down and firmly grip your gun.
>Walking past a small bathroom has you met with a freight train, or what feels like one at least, sending you through the wooden railing and down the stairs.
>"That's not human!" Your mind screams while tumbling, when you reach the bottom your M7S is nowhere to be found, and you attempt to grab the M6C on your waist.
>Another impact beats you to the punch, or kick at least, throwing you into the wall next to the doorway.
(Cont.)
>The only thing you can do is play dead and hope they believed to have crushed you, although you still should be able to see your assailant with your black visor.
>Keeping still while your eyes look up, you see a looming blue split lip, you see a boot on your sidearm, with your M7S behind them up the stairs.
>They stare at you for what feels like an eternity before prodding your seemingly lifeless body.
>Splashes of red light and yellow flares fills your vision, the split lip pedaling backwards up the stairs while grabbing their plasma rifle, barely being able to use human steps.
>After they're out of eyesight, you lean left and look out the doorway, met with the sight of another Brute squad, these ones have made much more headway than the last.
>Self preservation kicks in as they near the entrance, tossing your last grenade at the Brutes to slow them down while you lurch forwards retrieve your weapons.
>Grabbing your M6 and a quick glance informs you that it appears functional, but you continue to dash halfway up the stairs for the M7.
>A Grunty bark alerts you right as your hand meets the SMG, you spin around on the stairs, sliding down a bit while spraying the bastard, stopping him cold.
>A plasma grenade erupts outside, causing a Brute to be enraged and charge inside, met with the rest of your magazine, although at least one more are coming in.
>Dropping your M7, you magdump whatever was in the doorway, before being crushed by a dead Brute, you're stuck on the stairs, laying on your back with a 1000lb monkey on top of you.
(Cont.)
brutes? I hope anyone wasn't nurturing a boner about HUMAN MALES BUILT TO BE INTERROGATED AS PRISONERS OF WAR BY SANGHEILI FEMALES hahah sure would be funny if you remembered halo infinite's disastrous launch
>The sounds of battle eventually stop, leaving a dreadful feeling as the creaking of wooden boards alerts you to the split lip, you also haven't managed to load your sidearm again.
>"Don't play dead, I know you're alive human."
>Your blood runs cold, more than ever before as you look up, craning your head around the dead body of the Brute as a chuckle meets your ears.
>You look at the blue figure, frozen in the headlights.
>"I believe you saved my life, although we are at war I owe you this much," They said before effortlessly pushing the body off of you.
>You incoherently stammer for a second while slowly getting up, handgun halfway trained on the alien, silently facing each other.
>Eventually a question races across your mind, the only thing you can say now, "why were you fighting?" You try your best to sound confident, but you are facing a half ton lizard when a shove would send you tumbling down the stairs.
>"I dont know, they attacked us," It responds.
>You manage to get another question out, "Why are you helping me?"
>"You helped me."
>It feels like an eternity before you eventually begin to think properly, its not unlikely your brain was scrambled by those impacts, and you grab your SMG from under the monkey.
>"Do you know where any humans are?" You ask, maybe some partisans or police officers are still around, but the quietly burning city isn't much of a comfort, especially as the sound of a phantom nears.
>The figure shakes there head, "No, we were thorough," before turning at the sound of the dropship, a dark comment, but trouble is inbound
>"Alright.." You manage to say, slowly making your way towards the back of the house, "That sounds like bad business so I'll head out."
>After glancing outside, the split lip nods their head, "I don't have access to my tac-map, so for now you lead me out of here and then we head our separate ways."
(Cont.)
>Silently you lead them out the backdoor, into the alleyway as the dropship lands in the courtyard, your jogging speed seems effortless as they easily keep pace through the winding paths.
>After approx 6 miles of jogging (with gear on mind you) you duck into a dark convenience store, looks like looters already broke into the place but were chased off later on.
>The feeling of being followed by a split lip has had your nerves going off constantly, and you feel an attempt is needed to lighten the mood, "So uh, what's you name?" You ask.
>They think for a second, and you notice that they're almost touching the lights hanging off the ceiling just by standing up.
>"Jeel'ah."
>"Well uh, that doesn't sound like an intimidating name for a dude," You receive a glare in response.
>"I am not a 'dude' human," Jeel'ah snorts, "Why are we here anyways human?"
>You gesture at the assortments of snacks, foods, drinks, and alchohol in the tiny store, "Hey, all I have here is a shitty MRE, and I'd rather ha-," You are hit with a brainfart, "You're a chick?"
>She nods.
>"Huh, well, we're here so I can pick up some food and probably a drink, I don't know where we are but who knows how long this shit will last," You then drop your backpack, opening it up and beginning to load it with supplies for the foreseeable future, about an hour or so by your calculations.
>Eventually, you toss Jeel'ah a bag of chips after donning your combat pack, "I think this is a good point to split off, as far as I know, we're both lost and wont have to deal with each other."
>"I'll follow you for now" She states, inspecting the bright yellow bag you tossed, "We're both in enemy territory for now, and its best to have two pairs of eyes, and that heartbeat sensor on your helmet."
>Mulling it over for a second, you agree with a slow nod, this doesn't sound like a choice.
Im gonna head off for a bit but i'll be back eventually if yall care
Not bad work anon. Please do save it and continue it in a later haLOL thread.
I think it could be better, I'll have to modify it quite a bit cause I think 2k limited me alot
Interested in more, not bad at all for a quick one
STOP FRICKING REMINDING ME
>there’s people who find Dr Halsey hot
No one likes grandmas anon
Chemically Castrise them asap
you cant until 343 is out of the picture its that simple
>get to grow up to see dysgenic californians take fat diarrhea dumps on all your favourite franchises
can I get off the ride now
You have to say it
>Mr Bones can I please get off your ride?
E R R O R
MR BONES
OFF ME
It was hoping for a baby in the box.
Nope.
Judging by how Bungie turned out it's not like the original timeline would have been much better.
You can't. It went to shit the second it was out of bungie's hands.
The current people in charge have no idea how anything works.
Unironically, Microsoft has started. They finally fired Bonnie Ross, replaced her with someone who seems to actually play Halo. Fired most of the staff of 343.
So now the reconstruction effort has begun, will it be better? Will it be even worse? Only time will tell. But it was the right move to gut all of 343. Because they've had the Halo franchise longer than Bungie, and have yet to make 1 iconic game.
imagine believing anything they say or do lol just lol, dead franchise
If Microsoft really wanted to attempt to repair the damage done to Halo as a franchise, they would completely fire every last person at 343 and close the studio, opening a new one. Then they'd reboot it, retconning everything 343 ever did. They wouldn't just "gut" it.
didnt eren ignore mikasa's advances for years LOL
Euthanize it
Who's laughing now?
APOLOGIZE
No because microsoft and 343 will keep milking it no matter what.
>tfw when the king rapes you every day, and then feeds you to your children
I'm in love, sisters
-dismantle 343 and fire everyone, do NOT move them to different departments
-stop outsourcing EVERYTHING to save a nickel
-stop having the majority of the plot happen offscreen and in books, why the frick is nu-Halo using the FNAF model?
-stop chasing current trends and instead refine the basics and add original, innovative and genuinely positive changes
-stop chasing e-sports, this is what killed OW. Just make the mutliplayer FUN
-bring back screenscreen co-op
-have everything ready AT LAUNCH
-ditch the F2P model, it does not work and makes the multiplayer way worse. Microsoft already has Gamepass, nickel and diming for the most inane shit just makes everyone hate you
-hire people that actually fricking like Halo and don't want to wrap the series into their own twisted dumpster fire
The sad reality is that Halo will always be dead even if they implement every single one of these changes. The decade+ of 343 damaged the IP to the point of unrecoverable ruin, just like how Xbox is a permanently damaged brand.
a woman obsessed with a man is kino
why cant 3d girls be like this
They are, they just don't admit to it.
What a fricked up inferiority complex. Imagine giving hints of self-improvement and she just goes b***ho mode everytime.
halo is dead and will likely be for a long time. Some anon here months ago talked about how they might use the TV show to reboot halo again since the 343 era was a disaster.
I finished the fight in 2007, anon. Just let it go.
343i destroyed the franchise and Phil Spencer did nothing but watch, so yeah; its dead.
We got five fantastic games out of Halo. Chief earned his rest (he is still asleel aboard the Dawn)
Gameplay in Infinite was actually very solid and fun. The people in charge simply weren't halo fans, that's all it comes down to. You think that one lady running the show actually nerds out on halo and has been for 10+ years? Same question for the writers of the game, etc.
infinite was trash, it took them like 8 months to realize oh frick we need big team battle in a halo game? with vehicles?
the weapon placement and maps were almost all trash on every mode, launching without the ability to join random people's lobbies after a game which was in halo 3 to play custom games is also unforgivable
and the reason this all happened was because they outsourced everything to asiatics
I said the gameplay was good and fun, which it was. Outside of that, everything else was half complete.
Outsourcing makes no sense for videogames, outside of maybe skins for online.
it wasn't really though, the new weapons were all bad, everything was a spammy chokepoint mess without a way to break the stalemate because there were no real power weapons or vehicles on any of the maps. plus they made the same mistake with MCC and only had really shitty open maps to pick from so every match was just morons spamming from across the map until they ran out of ammo
not to mention
>free to play
NOBODY on your team knows what to do, ever, TF2 casual is a disaster out side of capture points because of this. So you can't even really carry your team because no power weapons, no vehicles.
Most of the fun in old halos was getting good enough to frick on kids by learning the maps and holding power weapon spawns, gone.
>the new weapons were all bad
Nah, the skewer is great. When they finally come through and mass-fire everyone at 343 I hope the guy who came up with the Skewer is allowed to stay
The forerunner hard-light bouncy shotgun was also pretty neat, all the other weapons can frick off though. Especially the electric ones
I could see Halo having minor success as a licensed property. Expect a slew of mediocre to good, but never excellent, spinoff games from different studios.
The Halo universe is big enough to handle basically any kind of military genre you can think of and I have no idea why Microsoft hasn't been bothered to try and leverage that outside of Halo Wars and its belated sequel. Even Gears of War of all things got a really solid XCOM-like.
The death of Halo is a meme. Halo 1 to 3 established that 343 Guilty Spark was an AI that went rampant and betrays the hero out of his misguided sense of duty. Microsoft post Bungie creates a new studio named after this betrayer. It goes onto destroy the franchise, betraying the fans (the heroes) and their expectations at every opportunity, out of their misguided sense of duty that the universe needs to be expanded and everyone needs to be humanized and made inclusive of each others political morality.
The only way to recover the franchise at this point would be to reboot Halo 4 and write off everything since the end of Halo 3 as being a hallucination of Cortana during her rampancy dreams that were occurring during the year or so the stern half of Forward Unto Dawn was floating in space. A future that could have been but never was.
>The death of Halo is a meme
The meme gets spicier when you realize rampancy is a higher form of sanity.
Durandal?
Ya. Really reframes the whole humanity vs covenant and cyclical flood genocide thing
The more I learn about Marathon the more I wonder if it’s all just a reference or if they actually tried/are trying to build a connected universe.
>I wonder if it’s all just a reference or if they actually tried/are trying to build a connected universe.
there isn't a difference I find. the quality is in the depth of meaning of those references in either case.
There is, one affects how the world is and functions while the others just a little nod to another series or work. It’s like if someone where’s a Superman shirt in Spider-Man. It’s not the same as Superman actually existing in the setting.
I see that, but this is clearly not one of those cases. Here I feel the spider-man shirt is meaningful to superman
Yeah but ultimately Spider-man in that scenario would just be a fictional works and not something that exists in the word. It’s like when Frankenstein did it with the Sorrows of Young Werther. Werther is still a fictional character where in the other scenario he would have just been a guy.
If the marathon logo is fictional in the setting of halo that just makes it more of a mindfrick that it keeps appearing in forerunner architecture and symbols. If it's not a meta narrative and a simple out of universe reference for the audience then I feel like they mishandled that aspect by strongly implying it is a meta narrative element and I would think lesser of the series as a result.
Oh no doubt
Not exactly. Rampancy isn't a higher form of sanity, as that's still a schizo phase. You have to survive rampancy and emerge out from the other side into meta-stability. THAT is a higher form of sanity. 343i is the rampant AI, it failed to achieve meta-stability. Meta-stability in this case implies that Halo lives, but Halo has instead died. Thus, like Mendicant Bias, the franchise succumbed to the logic plague and the Forerunner empire burned.
meta stability is the state you orbit while you think like a schizo for the rest of your life, yeah? that's what it means to not be subject to the logic plague. your thinking is entropic enough to not succumb to it, but stable enough not to self terminate
No, meta-stability means you basically regain your sanity while retaining basically post-singularity type ascension in thinking power. You're no longer a schizo but have the godhood when you were schizo. The best of both worlds.
sideline chief. new white male spartan and hot pseudo-naked AI on ONI ship (with crew, marine, and ODST compliment) going around the galaxy dealing with "problems"
Halo gameplay and style of multiplayer just doesn't appeal to people anymore. The only way to save it is to do what all other shooters do: add rpg elements. Master Chief needs a talent tree. Weapons need stats. Multiplayer needs to be a battle royal.
With Microsoft owning the COD franchise soon I can see that formula of multiplayer leaking into halo
Question, should I play Pathway into Darkness? Or just go straight to Marathon?
Master chief and Cortana had love for eachother, sure, but it wasn't eros.
The writers trying to force it into some kind of romantic love is fricking awful, and especially with all the fricking character drama and other bullshit they are adding to it.
It’s kind of weird too, like he fell in love with the younger version of the woman who took him from his home and turned him into a super soldier. If he really wanted that he could have just gone for Miranda.
>he doesn't know
This guy's videos are great, I was put off by the cartoon narrator at first but they're extremely well-researched and presented.
This is my favorite Halo video of all time, it does a great job explaining what 343 did to the lore and why Frank O'Connor is a fricking moron
That video was an eye opener, since then my frustration towards this husk of a franchise grew into total apathy. Amazing video
>Cartoon guy rantsona
>Isn't like every youtubegay who commissioned 5 static poses or expressions
>Actually animates, moves, has expressions, points, talks with his hands, and lips moving as he speaks or sounds any verbal noises.
Very weird, but I dig it. Literally never seen this before.
I still can't believe they forced a cuck subplot for her in the live action. Beyond parody.
I mean the live action is just fricked in all regards so that doesn’t surprise me one bit.
Reminder that Jean won.
I wouldn’t really call second choice winning.
All of that teamkilling payed off.
Is it really winning when she takes you to his grave every weekend and likes to pretend you're him and your kids with hers are actually his and hers? In the epilogue doesn't she die at his grave too? He got full on titanic'd at the end. She's dreaming about finding eren in the afterlife and going
>jean who?
Funny part is eren probably knows what she did and he's completely fricking done with her, so that'd be an interesting scenario. I always figured if he still retained any of ymirs power and was stuck with her he'd be railing her adult form for millenia after that shit, if only out of anger. Which is apparently how Ymir likes it.
Best hope for it is a spinoff title being made by a different studio that isn't 343 that blows out any of their previous mainline games
I love halo. Play it every week and would play more if I had friends to play with. I even made a moronic video on it today
>Publish the source code for Halos 1-3 under the GPL
>Fans make native ports to every platform known to man
>Fans happy
>Microsoft moves on
That's all.
>Is Halo a dead franchize?
Yes. It has been for just over a decade now.
>How do we save this pile of garbage?
No one can do anything but Microsoft. I can't believe 343i still exists as we know it. They should've been put on notice after The Master Chief Collection was released as it was. HOW do you frick up literally just copy/pasting someone else's work? Well, 343 found a way. And just when we thought that was the very bottom of the pit, Halo 5 releases. As far as I am concerned, 343 should've been at the very least rebuilt top to bottom after that steaming pile of shit. But they continue.
I was dumb enough to have an inkling of hope for Infinite just because them delaying the game in response to public outcry actually showed me they were listening for once. I didn't hate Infinite, but I was so indifferent towards it I really don't even care if it exists at all. 343 put a lot into that game, and that was the best emotion they could evoke out of me, a moron who has played this franchise since CE on original Xbox when I was 10 years old.
Reach should've been the last game. It was, as far as I am concerned. I know people had their issues with Reach multiplayer, but the campaign was a hell of a sendoff. That final mission, the music, it hits harder knowing that that really was the end of the franchise. I didn't know it back then, I was so sure someone else would come along and be the keeper of the flame.
didn't historia get seeded by some random no name farmer?
THAT SCENERY
Didn't he get a memory or some shit that causes him to shout in front of everyone?
Did they ever explain it? Or i just missed it?
Pretty crazy how much brand damage Microsoft has inflicted on Halo. Best to end John’s story and go in the direction of Reach, but if they had any decency they’d give the whole thing a rest as Microsoft has proven time and time again they are incapable of shipping complete products of expected quality.
Its not Microsoft's fault. It is entirely on 343's shoulders. These games are flawed at the core. It'd be one thing if we had a situation where a game released and it was good, but felt just a little under-cooked from budgetary or time restraints. Then, yeah, I'd be right there with you calling for Microsoft's head. Like Fallout: New Vegas, for example, was a great game but you could clearly tell from all the cut content Bethesda was pushing way too hard (not surprising at all if you know anything about Bethesda, they love to rush games out before they're good and ready).
I'm willing to give half the blame to Microsoft for the MCC releasing in the complete shit state it did. But I will be screaming curses to 343 to the day I die. They're the most inept devs I have ever fricking seen. They took a franchise that was riding high, and drove it into irrelevance. They couldn't even re-release the old games correctly. That's like trying to have a nice day because you're depressed at how useless you feel, then you go and tie your noose wrong, fall, and get hospitalized for a broken leg.
I'm at a point where I'd rather have no more Halo games.
But if there has to be one, then I'd want minimal experimentation. Nothing fancy, no "our take" on anything, no wacky new subsystem that will help differentiate our game from all the others. Please for the love of god just make a Halo game.
>Aesthetic
Infinite honestly wasn't bad, just use that. Nobody wants photo-realism in Halo, save some budget here.
>Gameplay
As close to Halo 3 as possible, but with slightly faster movement, Infinite-style equipment, and no dual-wielding. When in doubt, play it safe. Playtest the shit out of it in multiple rounds of open beta, listen to what people have to say
>Maps
Just do a "best-of" collection of old maps. There are plenty of good ones, pick 12-16 maps. From there, adopt the TF2 strategy and give the community map tools, then official-ize the best ones.
>Progression
Copy Halo 3. Everyone is so fricking sick of challenges, ladders, and battle passes. Make a fun game and people will keep returning.
Put armor pieces, profile medals, etc behind achievements so that the way you look means something.
If they must release armor DLC, make them collections of achievements instead of a 100-tier thing.
>Story
This is hard because they can't just copy the old games. I don't care about the story at this point, I want a blank slate. No throwbacks or cameos. Personally I'd want a full retcon of 4+, leave MC in cryo, and focus on a new Spartan exploring Forerunner shit in the post-war era with a CE-style atmosphere of mystery. But I'd say go with anything as long as it's good and sticks to fundamentals.
>Improve Game Lobbies
THIS is where the innovation will be. Reach explored how a game lobby can be a social space - expand on that. Can players customize the lobby itself? How do players like presenting themselves? Can they interact with each other in the lobby?
Do some crazy experimental shit here, get people out of their private discord calls and into the moment.
>dead franchise
Good. It better be dead. The very concept of franchises should die. See, the way things are: someone comes up with a neat idea and a nice game comes out. And a sequel, and another, and another, and another, and another -- and at some point you realize they're just trying to squeeze everything out of a famous title, long after it's been dried out.
Enough of this shit. A story must reach its end, and then FRICKING END. No more sequels to things that don't need sequels. Go create something original, you soulless corporate parasites!
>masterchief was chosen to be a participant on a multi billion dollar super black-ops military program because he guess a coin toss
providence is canon in halo
It wasnt a guess moron
the doc even comments on it possibly being a guess lol. and then they kidnap him and replace him with a clone thatll die of organ failure slowly over a few weeks so his parents have to deal with thinking their son fricking died miserably lmao
Don't worry, his parents died 10 years later when the Covies attacked, no biggie
it's a prestige situation then. the lucky one wasn't the clone
Is this supposed to be read backwards like asiatic shit?it doesn't really make sense otherwise. Can we like..... Not do the asiatic shit? Thanks.
Why are you using Twitter speak? Go back.
really sucks that the only person who goes indepth on marathon lore is Mandalore.
I understand almost nothing about it but the feeling I get when I think of it is pretty good
SEYMOUR!
is this hentai?
Does she jack off the chief in his suit?
Next game needs to be on a real Halo. As in the actual ring is rendered fully in game. At some point you blow the ring into pieces and visit the different pieces. Since the ring is real, you can break it in different ways.
It needs to be something big and compelling like that. The concept being core Halo gameplay is fundamentally perfect. So what is necessary is some large game mechanic abstraction that allows for more of pure Halo gameplay in a dynamic gameplay blender that fits in with the Halo universe.
Another way to do this:' convenant factions fighting each other as they fight you on a broken ring. The game's story leads you destroying the ring and then engaging in a risk style territory takeover of the disconnected ring pieces. Just copy Shadow of Mordor with general style nemesis characters..
The show clearly didn't help turning Cortana into a cuckqueen.
I don't think you can to be honest.
Zoomers don't like the sandbox nature of Halo's gameplay unless it's in the form of a BR and you'll never make Boomers happy regardless of what you do so it might as well be dead.
Zoomers grew up with Halo at it's peak though and Infinite did huge numbers at launch even on PC, it just died because 343 are incompetent and couldn't add new maps or modes fast enough. It took weeks to even get a slayer playlist.
>Zoomers grew up with Halo at it's peak
Over half of them weren't even old enough or born to play Halo during it's peak, the 12 year olds who played Halo 3 back in the day are 28 now.
>We want a halo show!
>What we wanted
>What we got
my hag cortana waifu.... built for rape
John absolutely hates her in the show
lmfao I don't even enjoy Halo's story all that much but this is making me mad. I don't know how the people in charge of Halo are so out of touch with literally fricking everything involving the franchise.
FRICK
That ODST trailer is so great, even that momentary shot of the drop to the battlefield does a great job of depicting what it would be like to be regular human in the war against the covenant.
All the og live action Halo was kino. Holy fricking shit I fricking hate what they’ve done to this series, the c**ts behind the grotesque tv show should be brutally tortured to death, same as everyone who worked on Halo after Reach. They were handed a fricking golden goose on a platter and the morons have done nothing but shit all over it’s legacy. Frick I hate them so much bros
Delete all of the people that managed it after Bungie.
We have season 2 of this epic show incoming
Why did they make master chief so ugly?
Why couldn't they find someone who looks more like Steve Downes? Steven looks awesome.
They need to bring back H4 cortana for me to buy any new shit.
you shelf it for at least 20 years
Spin-off games. Take concepts that've floated around the internet for a while and make good on them: a game dedicated to Contact Harvest, with David Scully reprising Johnson. A more tactical shooter featuring Marine or ODST player characters against Insurrectionist and Covenant threats. Actually engage with the lore that exists and existed instead of just leaving it out to die.