Is he the best FF main character?
He is, after all, a real Chad.
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Contrarians will seethe and even I am reluctant to admit it, but Cloud is the best FF protagonist ever. The original Cloud from 1997, not the Cloud from any of the spin-offs or the remake.
>Literal cuckolds
>Literal cuckolds
You don't seem to know the definition of cuckold or the plot of Final Fantasy VII.
>ENTER
>out of the blue he simps for the 2nd worst love interest of the series
lost his chad license
based
>Woman brings him to make out point to open up to him
>"Go talk to a wall"
I like Squall the most because he's just a normal dude living his life and then BAM he needs to lead an army against an evil witch and he actually mans up and does it and then BAM he has to save the world with the power of love by fricking the witch out of Rinoa and he does that too. What a legend, and he was just a normal guy, wasn't even interested in any of that
>I like Squall the most because he's just a normal dude living his life
He's an orphan who grew up in a school for soldiers run by an international mercenary organization and spent his entire life training for that and getting his memory blasted away by GF exposure.
>he's just a normal dude living his life
He forgot all that, doesn't matter. Just a normal dude living his life, trying not to get involved in anything weird
>trying not to get involved in anything weird
Like being a mercenary who intervenes in wars for money?
mercenaries are as common as wars
You forgot part where he has b***hes falling for him left and right and he just dosent care. Becouse all he wants to do is angst. And monsters dropping from moon regulary.
Squall is weird because he's a good character stuck in a bad plot, if he wasn't a high school student people would've probably understood him more, his party members are unlikable enough and his rep suffers for it too just by association
Hey I've always thought the same thing, Squalls moody moments are him screaming internally over the actual fricking morons surrounding him.
Kek. VIII is the only modern FF I never finished because I hated the surrounding party members so much. Poor Squall. He deserved better homies.
When I played FF8, I really did think the cast was garbage. I don't blame Squall for having an attitude when the people he was dealing with were all morons.
Cifer's sloppy seconds
Disc 3 and beyond happens when he loses his balls so no.
I like Squall because of his relatable emo teenager personality and coming of age arc but I dislike his relationship with Rinoa who sucked thousands Seifer wieners. Selphie should've been the love interest tbh
He is Goseling tier Chad-lite, but he originally had a go-lucky persona in the prequels.
>Not the Cloud that is made for BBC
Cope. Cloud is gay, always been
>the best twist of any ff character
its crazy people hate on 7 just because its famous. tidus is a really, really close second though. his twist is just as good.
Tidus's twist is way better. I awlays felt the Cloud twist was kinda nonsensical. I've no clue why Aeris and Tifa go along with Cloud's delusions.
The weirdest part is how Cloud's SOLDIER persona is supposed to be based on Zack but he's not acting anything like Zack. What's up with that
I like another anon's interpretation I saw up here where it's that he's imitating Zacks confidence and skill but the personality he molds is just Cloud's own kind of childish interpretation of what a badass ex-SOLDIER. In the mind of a dork like Cloud this is what a cool guy acts like.
Cloud's persona is based on the stories Zack told him. He's still making assumptions of how a badass SOLDIER should act but he doesn't know Zack enough to mimic his personality perfectly. Even if he has shades of it by virtue of being friends with him. Like his happy squatting or his need to show off a little.
Cloud doesn't go full psycho until Temple of the Ancients and by that point Sephiroth has the Black Materia. No turning back at that point. Prior to that Cloud just has moments where he acts weird. Like coming down with headaches from entering the reactor. Or not remembering how the biggest battle of his life ended.
Are you basing Zack's personality on how he is depicted in crisis core or how he's depicted in FF7?
This. Plus the times he acts like a psycho. Should have stopped traveling together at least several times to figure out what the frick was wrong with him but they just brush it off and carry on.
Tifa does it because she's just afraid he'll breakdown completely otherwise. But isn't Aeris just missing essential context. I.E she knew Jack but bot Cloud so from her perspective they just have several coincidental similarities.
>I awlays felt the Cloud twist was kinda nonsensical
how so? tifa was 1) worried about him and 2) scared to contradict him because he knew things he shouldnt for some reason
him being a total schizo that in reality happend to be a shinra fodder all along and then piecing things together in the lifestream with tifa was one of if not the best reveal in vidya
Yeah the most famous moment in the game is Sephiroth killing Aeris but the the BEST moment in the game is the real memory of Cloud killing the original Sephiroth and more importantly how well that moment is earned.
The greatest thing about this twist is how it completely fulfills Cloud's motivation. Cloud joined SOLDIER to be strong like Sephiroth to get Tifa to notice him. Tifa wanted someone to be there for her in her time of need. Well it turns out even though he didn't make SOLDIER, he killed Sephiroth! The strongest person on the planet! He saved Tifa at her lowest point. Cloud was already everything he wanted to be but the only person in the game who doesn't believe in Cloud, is Cloud.
its funny how Sephiroth decides to make his entire goal to ruin Clouds life after that moment. the amount of seeth he has over this low class solider beating him is enough to transcend time and space itself.
Sephiroth, like Kaiba, just wanted his salty runback.
Sephiroth learned to time travel while Kaiba invaded the Egyptian afterlife. Which one had the higher level of seethe?
Sorry, but wasn't Sephiroth faking his death here, and basically let Cloud 'kill' him?
No. There's nothing to say Sephiroth was faking his death there. Only that he took advantage of the fact he fell into the Lifestream after his death. Because he was surrounded by the knowledge of everything that ever lived, that's how he got the information about Black Materia, what Jenova really was, and how he manufactured his theory of being able to steal the entire Planet's supply of life
>Was getting killed part of the plan?
No, he really died. At least, he died in the physical sense and it wasn't part of his plan. But he was able to stop his will from being diffused into the lifestream it it should have. Sephiroth's lingering will then manipulated Jenova's living clones to his own ends (aided by his father, Hojo). Sephiroth's actual body traveled through the lifestream and wound up in the Northern Crater, which is where all the clones went also.
This is why every time you encounter a "Sephiroth" in the game and it attacks, the battle is actually a Jenova monster. But the final battle is basically the real Sephiroth come back to life using Jenova's power.
Why didn't he just let go of the sword?
rule of cool
this is what's called a trivial plothole. You could "fix" the scene to be yield the same outcome in a more plausible way without changing anything essential about either of the characters, but it wouldn't be anywhere near as fun to watch. Being able to do this tastefully is one mark of a good creator. (It's more common these days to get it wrong in both directions, where you take the time to have at least some kind of bullshit logic explain everything to achieve your cool moments, while neglecting characters and any semblance of good taste)
He was in disbelief that this nobody shinra grunt was stronger than him
Yes, Tifa begins the game immature and insecure. Her reputation as a character is overshadowed by her breasts, which is two bad because she's easily the second most important character in the game after Cloud. Her arc is developing the courage to confront Cloud and help him recover his real memories. It's not like the game just neglects to have Tifa react to Cloud's false memories, she's clearly depicted (in all its blocky PS1 detail) as being uncomfortable and knowing something is wrong during the Kalm flashbacks.
Narratively, Aeris is almost like a mentor-paragon role disguised as a love interest. She's more mature and self-assured. She has wisdom and courage. Cloud admires and desires her, but their relationship is never equal and reciprocal (as it becomes with Tifa). Tifa is jealous of Aeris, but even there Aeris represents the qualities that Tifa needs to develop in herself.
>Tifa
>Zack......
>Cloud
>Do you know him?
>Tifa
>N, no, I don't know him!
>Cloud
>Your face tells me differently.
>Tifa
>I told you, I don't!
>Cloud
>A, all right.
___
>Tifa
>Cloud...
>Bonfires are funny, aren't they?
>They make you remember all sorts of things.
>You know, Cloud. 5 Years ago...
>......It's nothing.
>No, forget it. I'm afraid to ask...
>Cloud
>What is it...?
>Tifa
>It feels like... it feels like you're going far away...
>You really, really are...... you... right?
___
>Tifa
>...it's really pretty, isn't it?
>Ok, I'm going to just go ahead and say it...
>Cloud
>...what?
>Tifa
>Aeris would be able to just come out and say it, probably.
>Cloud...?
>Sometimes being old friends is hard.
>I mean, timing is everything.
>Cloud
>Yeah...
>Tifa
>Cloud...?
>I......
>........................
If I had to describe Tifa's story, it's that not making a decision is a decision. Tifa tried over and over again to speak up about her doubts but decided to be silent every time. Yes there is a reason for it. Nibelheim was just as traumatic for her as it was for Cloud. But at the same time, her being silent allowed Sephiroth to control the narrative. And the result of that was far worse than if Tifa broached the subject first.
Aeris has zero context into why Cloud behaving the way he is. She just met him. She doesn't pick up that he's pretending until just before her death. And she straight out tells Cloud that she wants to meet the real him if you get their date.
Tifa is a bit harder to justify because unlike Aeris, she was actually there when Nibelheim burned down. So in her case it's just personality. First it was distrust in her own recollection of events. Then when she realized something was severely wrong with Cloud, she stayed quiet because she was afraid "something terrible was going to happen." Considering Cloud broke and turned into Sephiroth's willing slave when he learned he wasn't in SOLDIER that sort of gives credence to Tifa's fears but I don't think she knew that would happen. To her credit though, she did try to speak up at multiple points, she just couldn't get the words out.
And keep in mind recalling all that shit wouldn't be fun for Tifa either. If Cloud could go his hold life never knowing the truth that wouldn't be all that bad, since he's atleast functional.
>Tifa is a bit harder to justify
Gow would she contest it?
>you weren't there Cloud, it was Zack
>oh yea b***h? How do you explain my big buster sword right here?
>uhm uh, it's shinra, jenova, sephiroth, mako!
The point being Cloud knew way more details than she did and she had noway to disprove it.
You only speak from player's pov where you knew Cloud's version of the incident was wrong. In watsionian's views, none of party member could know
cloud is cool because he's one of the only FF protags without a chosen one trope attached to them.
That said Zidane would be the best if they didnt shoehorn that shit on him at the end.
>FF protags without a chosen one trope attached to them.
Sure he does. The Whispers of Fate say he's destined to defeat Sephiroth
Zidane has a great chadlike personality. Snd who can't identify with his primary motivation of getting into Garnet's pants? Unfortunately the story spends so much time dwelling on the rest of the freakshow cast and hitting a laundry list of series callbacks his actual storyline is somewhat lackluster, at least when compared to Cloud.
>saves a stagnant, coping, depressed world
>makes it his story
>leaves
Yes Tidus is the best and chaddest
It's Jack and it isn't even close
this
FRICK THE LUFAINES! CHAOS WAR NOW.
I had no idea who that is as I'm a boomer with a family.
But yeah he looks Chad AF, holy shit.
Also has GAR in his surname what the heck, did the GAR meme revive with him?
>I had no idea who that is as I'm a boomer with a family.
the Strangers of Paradise main character
Yeah I looked it up, looks like an awesome game AND character. There's so much shit to play but I spend too much time at monitors in my day job.
Mein neger
No, Jack Garland unironically is the best FF Main character
Based
Clive is the most fleshed out. Squall is the most morally interesting. Cloud is the most popular but also least consistent between games. Tidus is the most charismatic. The others aren't quite to their level, but to say any one of them is the best is up to your personal taste.
>Clive is the most fleshed out
Why do I keep encountering this cope. Is this more XIV dickrider propaganda? Clive is the same fricking character at the end of the game as he is at the beginning. He's never doubtful, his worldview is never challenged, everybody sucks his dick the moment they meet him, and he's a literal hand picked vessel of god that beats god for no other reason than he has a "stronger will." Clive has an amazing VA and a good character design. But there's absolutely fricking nothing about him that is "fleshed out." No one in that game is fleshed out. They're just pretty characters carried hard by literal S Tier voice actors.
Clive is similar to Cecil in how he has an arc and experiences change, it just mostly happens in the first third of the game
Cecil’s arc is more compelling than Clive’s though
Cecil actually killed people and did bad stuff and had an understandable need for redemption
Clive just didn’t want to accept that he’d turned into an uncontrollable rage monster that “killed” his brother (except he then comes back later anyway so none of it really ends up mattering other than as a means of filling time before Ultima does the demiurge dance)
>Ultima does the demiurge dance
This, the problem with 16 is not the protagonists, but the villains. I always thought a Kefka-esque ascension arc for Benedikta would have done that game a lot better.
Should have been Clive's mom. She's unironically the best villain in the game by far.
NTA but also Cecil's character development is better expressed in gameplay. Dark knights are willing to hurt themselves to hurt more enemies, showing Cecil's guilt weighing on him as he carries out orders for a malicious lord
Changing to Paladin when he decides to defect and gaining both the ability to heal as well as protect are great ways to express his growth through
Clive's growth sort of comes through when he accepts his actions and you do get a throughline where his default combat style is actually Ifrit's combat style.
But you don't really get any storytelling through gameplay after that, and that includes the way he takes on the Cid mantle.
Personally I found many of Clive's wry remarks and quips quite endearing, and his commitment to his character motivation - avenging Joshua - was impressive.
>least consistent between games
there's only one game that matters
Friendly reminder that this is his fate.
I never understood this one. Tidus just stopped existing when the dream ended.
a novel that takes places after X-2's true ending happened
Oh, I couldn't even finsh X-2. The difference in tone was way too jarring.
Without getting TOO into detail, the final battle takes place in the Farplane. After destroying the doom robot Bevelle had in their basement this whole time, Yuna bumps into Bahamut's Fayth. The Fayth asks Yuna if she wants to see Tidus again and if you say yes they'll say they'll try to dream one more time as a thank you for everything Yuna has done for them.
Combined with the fact that stupid ass X-2.5 novel killed and revived Tidus again, had Yuna and Tidus break up, and revived Sin, nothing was accomplished in FFX. That entire adventure was pointless.
Holy shit what the frick were they thinking
Don't know. Some stories really don't need sequels.
No they bring him back again as a ghost. It honestly makes a lot of sense when you realize Nojima just tried to correct 10-2s mistake of actually bringing Tidus to life in the flesh. Spira is a world of the dead, having a living protagonist doesn't fit the theme. Had to die and come back as a summoned ghost
Single handedly the stupidest yet greatest moment FF has ever done.
He's not even real.
I like Bartz
I think overall Bartz, Zidane and Ramza are my favourites
I think you just have something for twinks
All FF protags are twinks except for Jack
>real
You literally did not beat the game, let alone play it.
>He is, after all, a real Chad.
Maybe at the very beginning before Sin attacks but that's all. Tidus is kind of a little b***h
>had to lie about his father to justify his hatred toward him
He might be the worst protagonist.
He didn't really lie. He didn't come to the realization that his mother was the true problem until halfway through the game or that Jecht actually loved him until 70% into the game
Wait the problem was his mother? I have a shit memory, spoonfeed me pls.
Oh boy...
So in the Farplane while discussing Yuna with Jecht, Tidus will once again get angry. Yuna just cuts the bullshit and outright asks Tidus why he hates his father so much. Tidus will explain that on top of all of the bullying, whenever Jecht was around his mother would totally stop paying any attention to him. When Jecht went out to sea and never came back, his mother just shut down. Gave up on life and died. When Tidus asks why she never became a fiend, Yuna explains that it's jealousy for the living that turns people into fiends and that if she accepted her death, she would've passed to the Farplane peacefully. And Tidus does see her image in the Farplane.
Tidus thinks back to a day where he was calling for his mother and she dismissed him. Jecht shit talks him a little... but then he tells her to go to him because he needs her. And in Zanarkand Tidus gets to hear Jecht explain himself to Braska. Jecht was hard on Tidus because he wanted him to be great. "Show him the view from the top." But after he gave up hope of ever returning home, he entrusted Tidus to Auron for safekeeping. And Tidus can't bring himself to hate Jecht anymore.
Thanks. Totally forgot about that bit in the farplane. My memory is ass so forget all little details like that about a week after I finish playing something.
>Husband dies
>Just fricking give up on life and leave your son an orphan
What a b***h. No wonder Tidus had issues. Imagine your mother dying because she only loves your father and you're fricking nothing to her without him. I'm actually impressed Tidus isn't MORE fricked up.
Why did Dream Zanarkanders appear in the Farplane? Aren't they fake to begin with?
Yes and no. Okay an aeon, any aeon, is a dream of the Fayth. The Fayth dream something, pyreflies react to it, that dream becomes real. Bahamut is a dream of the Fayth. But it being a dream doesn't mean Mega Flare won't vaporize you out of existence. Tidus's mom may have been a dream of the Fayth but the fact Tidus can recall who she was means that she did exist, she was a person just like Tidus is a person who can interact with and frick Yuna. Therefore Tidus can recall her image even though she isn't a flesh and blood person like everyone else in Spira
>aeon is a dream of the Fayth
God eng localized FF terms are so moronic it makes no sense
Well it comes down to Yevon's propaganda. Them claiming Sin can only be defeated when your faith credit score is high enough gets the most attention. But the Yevon faith is wrong in other ways too. When Tidus goes to the Besaid Temple and asks what an Aeon is, the priest says this
>Priest: The summoners are practitioners of a sacred art, sworn to protect the people of Yevon. Only a chosen few become summoners, who call forth entities of great power: the aeons. The aeons hear our prayers and come down to us. They are the blessing of Yevon.
This is not how it works. The Aeons aren't chilling in heaven and descending from on high when Yuna calls them. They're representations of dead people being created with Pyreflies. No one has any idea the Fayth are being forced into this position against their will and that they're being forced to dream that things up.
He mom neglected him because she only cared about Jecht.
She's a negligent prostitute. In all the flashbacks where Jecht is gone, she's just moping around ignoring her son, wishing she was getting dicked down and she didn't have to deal with the consequences. I don't think we ever even see her say or do a nice thing to Tidus, she's either yelling or ignoring him. He's just too much of a pussy mama's boy to figure it out and Jecht is too based to point it out, considering he barely remembers her among the sea of women he fricked.
But he did figure it out in the end
No, he figures out that Jecht actually loved him and had his best interests at heart. He seems to forget his mom existed as well by the end of the game.
One could argue that it's the same thing. Him letting go of his misplaced resentment is effectively the same.
so he had mother issues?
I believe he did.
Let's be clear about one thing, Jecht was not a good father, but I honestly don't believe he was an butthole either. He just didn't know how to be a father, and just like one anon said, his mother was probably a groupie.
How come every time Tidus talks about his father it's shown how Jecht teases and mocks him, but when he talks about his mother it's shown how she ignores her child completely? I honestly believe that Jecht was the one who spend some quality time with his kid - sometimes - and Tidus either forgot about it, or just pretends like it never happened?
One character, I think was Auron, said that one day Jecht was drunk, he puched some animal and it died, and the other day when Jecht realised what happened he stopped drinking. Just like that. After ONE incident. So, I believe that deep inside he was actually a good person, way better than Tidus tried to portray him.
Reddit spacing, again.
Why did Jecht asked Auron to bring Tidus to him, and asked Tidus to kill him?
Why did Tidus cry when he said ''I hate you, dad''? Did he really mean it? I don't think so. He probably means that he hates the fact that he grew up without a father.
Why did he give him high five at the end, when he ''dives'' into Farplane?
>He just didn't know how to be a father, and just like one anon said, his mother was probably a groupie.
Oh hey I remember this thread. That was a great thread. Anyway I don't think it was a lie. I just think Tidus is overly emotional. If you have a father who pisses you off. And a mother that's so negligent that she does nothing. Well only one of those is going to make you actively angry. This isn't too say that Jecht was secretly a good father. He didn't know how to be a father so he treated his son like a Blitzball recruit because that was all he knew. But a 9 year old isn't going to understand why this grown man keeps fricking with him. So yeah regardless of anything Jecht was trying to be a good dad. And for all his faults, Tidus does have a skewed view of him.
As for why Jecht brought Tidus to Spira, Auron explains it
>Auron:Ten years ago…I honored Jecht’s last words, and travelled to Zanarkand. I planned to stay there, watching over you. But when Sin attacked Zanarkand that day, I changed my mind. Outside the dream world, life can be harsh—even cruel. But it is life. He wanted you to have a shot at life. I saw it in Sin’s eyes. That’s why I brought you here, to Spira.
Everyone always says Sin returns for its spawn. And while that explains why Sin orbits the fiends it sends out, Jecht is Sin. And Tidus is Jecht's spawn. Even as Sin, Jecht was still drawn to his Sin. It's fricked up but they do love each other. I think Tidus telling his father he hates him was just him being stubborn. He backtracks on it almost immediately, telling him he'll make Jecht's passing quick and defending him from Yu Yevon.
>Auron, said that one day Jecht was drunk, he puched some animal and it died, and the other day when Jecht realised what happened he stopped drinking
All that means is that prior to that incident he was a drunk which we see in the flashbacks. All the flashbacks we see of Jecht were true including the one where he asks the mom to stop ignoring her son. But that also means the one about him drinking, when he taunted Tidus over the Jecht shot. All that was also true. The Jecht we actually meet at the end of X was one that likely went through character development. Whicb means Tidus was likely exposed to a worse version of Jecht that we only see bits of and is juxtaposed with his good bits.
>That scene when he punks his 9 year old for asking him to stop drinking and you can actually hear Tidus is terrified
Hit a little close to home, ngl
Tidus does remember the time Jecht spent with him as a child. The problem was, as you say, Jecht didn't really know how to be a father, so he fell back on what he did know - blitzball. He treated 6-year-old Tidus like he would a blitzball recruit. He was hard, demanding, and belittled child Tidus when he couldn't achieve a adult's level of skill. It's not impossible to imagine Jecht humiliating Tidus by grabbing the ball and 'showing him how it's done'. That's what Tidus remembers. Jecht wasn't doing it from spite, it's just what he was familiar with from training up rookies on his blitzball teams. And as a showboating superstar, he probably did rub it in Tidus' face a little bit. This made Tidus prefer his neglectful mother to his seemingly antagonistic father, even if Jecht's intentions were good. Also, Jecht was a drunk.
To further this line of thinking, it further alienated Tidus as he grew older, he began to make progress at blitzball. But when he wanted to practice to show Jecht how much he had improved, Jecht had become too much of a drunkard and was too lazy to care and had 'given up' on Tidus as a blitzball player. Thus the flashback of young Tidus daring Jecht to get back into game shape and Jecht waving it off as something he'd start 'tomorrow'.
didn't he die by kicking a bomb that was disguised as a blitzball?
Unironically yes. Meets Yunalesca, gets told a guardian needs to become the final aeon to defeat sin practically responds with nah I'd win and then actually fights a world destroying immortal sea monster head on. All the while knowing he'll die sorta kinda afterwards. The iron balls on this guy.
i'd probably pick cecil as the best. nh
>super soldier
>most beautiful main character
>becomes champion of a God
>everyone misses her
>later becomes THE biggest God's champion
>but he's a dick and using her so she plots and executes a betrayal and kills his ass
>steals his power and uses it to create a new universe
>moves to rural France with her friends
You may not like it, but this is what peak main character performance looks like
that's a Mary Sue
Funny, reading that description I thought exactly the same thing.
She's built like a 2x4
She's hot, deal with it.
Nah she struggles along the way, but she overcomes those struggles. She has a proper character arc.
>most beautiful main character
You will never look like her though
>everyone misses her
I'm not trans, I dont miss her
You may not like it, but what you did is what a peak moronic post looks like
Lightning is the archetype of the perfect woman. I cannot marry her, but I can try to find a real Lightning in real life.
Not even the actual main character. Fang and Vanille are.
Bartz gets an entire princess harem, no one is more Chad than him
That is a good point. Butz mogs every other Final Fantasy protagonist in this regard.
>gets a princess harem
>drops all their asses to travel the world because he has women in every port
Bartz is under-rated in this regard.
It always bothered me that Tidus gives Auron the stink eye when Yuna is sending him at the end of the game.
Simple man
Saves the world
No drama
No emotions
There were four of him that barely counts
W/e he's a sports star that has groupies, he can literally have any girl he wants in (dream) Zanarkand.
For me, it's the real main character of 9
If it's only mainline, it's Zidane.
If we're counting everything, it's clearly Jack.
Zidane has an entire b***hfit during his existential crisis though.
Yes, and he struggles through it but manages to break out of it thanks to the kindness he showed literally everybody else in the cast up to that point. In his overwhelmingly positive attitude, he made friends with everyone. Those same people supported him during that crucial moment to make him understand his existence is worthwhile.
That scene is the culmination of his upbeat, "no questions asked" attitude of helping everyone he could. It's my absolute favorite and I love it a whole lot.
I didn't like his game, but I really enjoyed Clive.
Yes he is the best.
Tidus got confirmation that not only is an afterlife real but he could apparently continue to live as a ghost of some sort of he wanted to as evidence by Auron and Seymore and a bunch of old fricks in charge of the church.
But he finds out that he doesn't get an afterlife because he is a dream...a walking figment of some collective imagination and if he kills Sin that dream will end and so will he.
So what does he do?
He says frick it and goes to kill Sin anyway...because it is the right thing to do and frick it if it means he entirely vanishes.
The best part is that he doesn't just have the chad energy from the beginning. He grows into with quite of bit of help from Auron whose starting point as a character is where Tidus ends up.
>doesn't just have the chad energy from the beginning
He's literally a football superstar in the tutorial segment fighting female fans off. He's just confused after getting isekai'd for a bit, that's all
Don't mind me, just posting the best FF main character to date.
Squall is a close second.
Deal with it!
>dies at the end along with his brother and gaylord
No.
he's the worst one
even lightning has more personality and smiles more
The only thing i know is Auron and Vivi are the best characters from any Final Fantasy.
>insecure vivi self inserter with daddy issues
Sad choice!
auron and balthier are the protags we didnt get
everyone hates Tidus beacuse they can actually relate to him. it scares them.
I think Firion and Vaan are only actual normal dude of FF protagonist.
>not royalty
>not a mercenary raised since childhood
>not a super soldier
>not a son of celebrity athlete
>not a chosen one or secretly some dangerous/divine being
Just peasants that join together with everyone to stop an evil empire.
Yeah, and Vaan is also very noble, naive and brave on top of all that. Great character, he could have avoided a lot of hate if they'd just given him a shirt.
I know you pussies won't admit it, but
>he
is the best FF protagonist. Plus he has cute sister (who clearly wants to frick him) AND he makes Quacho Queen wet (which is funny since she is underwater).
You may be right, but no one's played that gay looking game.
Hell no, that title belongs to Cecil.
Cecil was the first FF protagonist I ever saw and remains my personal favorite to this day, but I'm the one who posted
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For most of my childhood my exposure to FF4 was a guide in Gamepro Magazine.
>Marries and impregnates one of the hottest woman in the world who wants him super hard.
>Has argubably the hottest woman in the world as his surrogate sister who's got his back along with an army of super beasts.
>Respected hard by 3 other kings and some would even die for him.
>Wingman is jumpman
>Family is super powered aliens
>Leader of the only air force in the world.
Cecil kinda based ngl.
He is the poster of child of cultural insensitivity and toxic masculinity (directly as trauma response from Jecht)
>cultural insensitivity
He's actually pretty sensitive and tries to be accepting as best as he's able until he sees what a negative impact the culture has and how resigned to just accepting pain and death the people are.
>toxic masculinity
This is an interesting case because Tidus is a lot like his father but he also took a much healthier approach to masculinity as he grew up without him. One of my favorite scenes is when Tidus is thinking back on Jecht mocking him for trying to emulate his Jecht shot and his voice plagues his mind but he manages to pull it off in spades. Yet unlike his father who constantly put him down saying 'no one else can do it', Tidus tells the aurochs that 'anyone can do it if they try'. He's also constantly stepping up and standing up to bullies on behalf of his friends and even people he hardly knows because of how much Jecht shat on him as a kid. Tidus is a victim of toxic masculinity but it's like he took all the right lessons from it. He has his flaws, sure, but he always tries to make sure it doesn't directly harm those around him.
There's also the fact that Tidus ended up inheriting his best traits. Tidus decided to rescue the Chocobos from the Chocobo Eater. And Auron laughed saying Jecht used to say similar things all the time during their Pilgrimage. So for as much as Jecht was telling Tidus to catch up to him, Tidus was already in a place Jecht had to grow into on Spira.
Schizo Cloud wins sorry man.
Why are there so many FFX threads in here today? Did someone make a video essay about the game?
Square has been grumbling about FFX getting the remake treatment
I always wanted to make video essays about my favorite games but I hate my voice and I'm always afraid that my inner thoughts will turn out to be weird to an outside listener.
>I hate my voice
You can literally record your VA and then run that recording through an AI and it sounds like a different person while keeping all the fluctuations and shit.
It's a good game and people like it.
I played the game for the first time and finished it just the other day, so through the universal connection, someone on Ganker made a thread. They were also more likely to make the thread because I thought the game was just okay rather than amazing.
I noticed that too, it might be because the creator of Dragon Quest recently said in an interview that he liked FFX and FFXII, although I haven't seen any FFXII threads lately. Or maybe it's just that a lot of people are replaying it after playing Rebirth.
STOP RIGHT THERE GOERS
>Sees his teammates and bros getting shit on by Goers and the crowd
>Immediately pulls this shit
BASED Tidus
GO RIGHT THERE STOPPERS
Say what you will about the terrible voice direction in a lot of these scenes, it's immensely satisfying to go in against the Goers and just fricking clown on them with Jecht Shot
luv Terra
simple as.
It's Noctis followed by Jack
Tide-us or Tee-dus?
It's a shame that he was robbed of a good game
xv is the best one
The little monkey boy is the best main character.
He's certainly in the top tier of FF main characters. He gets a lot of shit because of his look and HA HA HA HA HA but anyone who looks deeper sees what he goes through, how he mans up far beyond what anyone could have expected, and makes the ultimate sacrifice for the people and girl he has grown to love. People can argue that the 100% ending of X-2 dilutes the poignancy of X's ending, but if anyone deserves a happy ending, it's Tidus and Yuna. The post X-2 stuff doesn't exist.
>Yuna: It’s embarrassing to say this myself… But summoners and their guardians are kind of like Spira’s ray of light. A lot of people in Spira depend on us. I learned to practice smiling when I’m feeling sad, you know?
>Yuna: I know it’s hard.
>Tidus: Yeah… I understand. I think.
___
>Tidus: Yeah. You’ve been dreaming a long time, haven’t you?
>Bahamut: I’m sorry.
>Tidus: I’m grateful.
>Bahamut: (Vanishes)
>Yuna: About what?
>Tidus: Oh, nothing. Hey, don’t make that face! Come on! We’re going to beat Sin! Let’s see some cheer, okay?
>Yuna: You’re hiding something.
>Tidus: (Turns his face away) I’m not!
>Yuna: Really? (After he leaves) You’re a bad liar, you know?
Yuna can just smile and ignore what she's feeling. She has to. She's marching to her own suicide, she can't let herself dwell on meaning of what she's doing. But Tidus can't manufacture an emotion that doesn't exist. He's a bad liar. So when he tries to force a laugh that isn't real it comes off as awkward and horrible. I can't believe the game is this old and people still don't get it.
>a real Chad
homie even as a videogame character he ain't real.
X is shit and so are the characters
Nah, Zidane all the way.
No contest