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>viper phase 1
>layer section
>stellar assault
>gunbird2
>sengoku ace
>blazing mother fricking star
>literally ANY cute em up
yes
Hey OP. You may want to check the current /shmupg/ thread to see if any of the games interest you
What I can say from experience is shmups are a fun genre, but not every single shmup is going to be a slam dunk. If anything they are more of a fun distraction from your mainstream platformers and action games, not the main course. Recommend starting with something simple and easy like Twinbee or Gun Nac, or maybe one of the Touhou games.
Best thing here is Sapphire imo. Also Stellar Assault is a very good game but it's not really a shmup
you did NOT just talk shit about seibu b***h
viper phase 1 SLAPS
dont @ me
more recs:
nebulas ray
metal black
aleste series
silpheed
kolibri
dodonpachi daioujou
>shmupg
the last time i visited that general, it was just discord drama and no shmups
Is Sapphire that good? I feel like people elevate it because it's a rare, expensive game
The first stage is ridiculous fun and has a Bladerunner cyberpunk theme. It’s a good game.
Translation NOW
>sengoku ace
more like sengoku blade. sengoku ace is gay and one of the worst psykio games.
Sengoku Ace mogs the shit out of Blade. Blade is ugly, slowdown ridden, moronic second loop design where you don't even kill enemies, and it's a HORI that utilizes zero features of a hori.
was playing gunbird 2 on my dc earlier today,
loved it, wish i could play it more but i only have a vga crt monitor atm.
Frick off with this thread homosexual you autistically post this thread dozens of times on Ganker with this exact same picture have a nice day with these cross board posting troll threads
that image is the first image that comes up when you search shmup..
people need to read at least the first couple replies before they keep bumping
LOLMAO
are you just now noticing that OP here is always an annoying ass idiot?
No, nothing is actually worth doing.
yes if you like them. no if you don't. /thread
Donpachi is pretty easy to clear but one of the hardest to chain.
Worth playing a little for fun, not worth sinking tons of hours into
STGs are really fricking fun.
Flying around in a spaceship to awesome music, blasting the shit out of everything, never being more than an inch from death but somehow surviving. So cool.
The initial learning curve is really rough but if you can get past it you'll have some of the best gaming of your life.
They're ok, I'm sure you'll find a couple you can tolerate playing long term. I did
i think 1943 nes was the first one i ever played and ive been hooked ever since
yeah they're fun They're the only games I deem safe to play in public. real crowd pleasers
>Is it actually worth it to get into shmups?
It's amazing watching someone play it live in an arcade. Pure skill.
Anyone who uses autofire in these games is pathetic. True Champs play it in original format.
What if the game already has autofire as a default?
Then that's fine, they clearly intended for you to use it.
>inb4 muh autodemo [citation needed]
>inb4 muh real Nipponese use autofire
>inb4 "shitter shitter shitter noclears shitter"
Fair enough.
>What if the game already has autofire as a default?
If the original version released has no autofire then that's fine. But the almost all schmup games in the 80s and 90s didn't have autofire. Only hackers added then later.
arcade games in general, but especially shmups, were designed with autofire in mind. it is pretty obvious to all here that you don't actually play shmups if you rebuke autofire.
>arcade games in general, but especially shmups, were designed with autofire in mind. it is pretty obvious to all here that you don't actually play shmups if you rebuke autofire.
If it doesn't have autofire in the game, then it obviously wasn't "designed with autofire in mind". Obviously.
Japanese cabinets had autofire circuits. You are a clueless shitter with zero clears, just leave.
>Japanese cabinets had autofire circuits.
Those were third party hack add-ons made by no name companies looking to make quick money. Sega, Namco, SNK, etc...never endorsed them. They were NEVER part of the original design of the cabinet.
Which is why all the record keeping authorities in Japan allowed autofire? And why external autofire was used in attract screens? And why almost all arcade ports had autofire?
You're a dumb shitter, just leave. The autofire "debate" was settled over 30 years ago.
>And why external autofire was used in attract screens?
Prove it
>And why almost all arcade ports had autofire?
We aren't discussing ports.
I'm not wasting my time spoonfeeding a nonplayer troll. Ports needed autofire because they didn't have it at home. PC Engine had autofire by default, NES Advantage (literal stick for shmup/arcadey games) had autofire, almost all supergun sticks had autofire, etc.
super players (real ones on real arcade machines while being accepted by the devs as legit) use autofire, if that isn't enough proof that autofire was the norm then you are a moron.
this is a 1998 game, here's an attract screen of a 1990 game which is a reflection of autofire use: https://youtu.be/6Co0l0bzNu0?t=74
raiden fighters jet and fireshark doesn't have autofire normally so you would have to break your finger to play them without the autofire, these games are literally designed to use autofire modified by the arcade operator to increase or decrease difficulty and by knowing that most of them had these devices on their machines they wouldn't waste dev time programming the function.
sorry for putting a shitty video of the attract screen, i will put a real version which shows proof: https://streamable.com/iyn557
don't*
We are not talking about games that already have autofire built in where you hold the button and it shoots for you.
We are talking about games that do not have autofire installed.
both of those games don't have autofire installed, they have two button inputs.
moron
Raiden has autofire.
no dude. raiden fighters jet and raiden og are different games, in raiden fighters jet when you do that you charge an special shot, in raiden fighters jet there isn't an autofire.
here's proof: https://streamable.com/yunyhl
Not him but you should stop embarrassing yourself.
You are wrong. You hold down the fire button and it continuously shoots for you. That's part of Raiden. Even I did that in the arcade version of Raiden. I remember many hours playing in the landromat Raiden arcade cabinet with holding the fire button down.
>We are not talking about games that already have autofire built in where you hold the button and it shoots for you.
>We are talking about games that do not have autofire installed.
Exactly. We are talking about games that specifically didnt have autofire and you had to tap the button manually to fire. Raiden is not one of those games. That anon must haven't played Raiden in a long time. His memory is bad.
Nothing in those videos say autofire. You can tap the button quickly to shoot fast.
dude, i was holding the entire
moron, that level of fire is only achieved by literally using autofire at 15 hz, the main game even if it let's you shoot some consecutive shots they don't go to the level that dvd has, mixing this with the time they are doing this speed consistently and without changes shows that those dvd use autofire.
sorry for the double message, i was thinking that you were talking about the video i sent.
>Toaplan
There's an interview where one of the devs explicitly states that V.V/Grindstormer was the first game they made with autofire. Autofire completely breaks Zero Wing by making green homing comically overpowered.
Zero wing has autofire on his home versions made by toaplan, toaplan themselves wanted to have autofire, it's just that they fricked the green power up, the destruction of green is caused by it having fricked shot limit values rather than being the cause of autofire (other shots have shot limits, green can be spawned infinitely), in general saying that zero wing having a bug with autofire means that they didn't intend to use it would be like saying that because same same comes to a point where the game instakill you means that all toaplan games should have light speed bullets and was their original intention.
wanted the use of autofire*
this with the fact that he is doing this shot speed*
shows that the dvd uses*
For frick sake. Why did you bring that up? Nobody was talking about auto-fire. You've basically summoned the autist.
See. Here he is. He's on every thread and always derails it because he has to defend his 1cc collection. It always ends up being 40 people arguing with him and he thinks it's one guy.
He always says "you've got zero clears", and "but what about Japanese record keeping authorities" and has the Hz fire rate of every shmup memorised. Its ridiculous how any time anything arcade/shmup related comes up, he will inevitably pop up and start arguing about auto fire. If he doesn't bring it up, someone else will.
I wish he'd just frick off, but in the meantime, you guys could just also shut the frick up about auto fire. Who fricking cares? I want to talk about shmups.
>I wish he'd just frick off, but in the meantime, you guys could just also shut the frick up about auto fire. Who fricking cares? I want to talk about shmups.
I'm not going to be a coward just because of one moronic anon. I refuse to treat him like the boogie man. He's an idiot. If he monitors every thread like you say then there's no point in using your strategy either.
>I wish he'd just frick off, but in the meantime, you guys could just also shut the frick up about auto fire.
We don't negotiate with t3rror1sts.
Play them casually, pick the easier ones for starters. Maybe you'll fall in love with teh games
it's worth playing the few good games the genre has to offer yes, but dedicating yourself to that and playing shpoops more than any other genre is cringe
So is your entire generation worshipping billionaires that dont help anyone in America, yet you dumbasses do it anyway
run and guns are where it's at brother
shmups are harder and have more interesting mechanics and actual scoring
I wish there were more of them outside of the usual Contra and Metal Slug games. My favorite is probably The Terminator for SEGA CD, but I also really like what I played of Rapid Reload on PS1.
I agree that they're harder for sure. It would be really cool to see some of these mechanics (like bonus points for grazing a bullet) in other genres like platformers.
Some other good run and guns:
In The Hunt
Gunforce 2 (1 is okay)
Blue Dolphin
Demon Front
Tiger Road
Sunset Riders and Cowboys of Moo Mesa
Makaimura and Daimakaimura
Mercs
Aliens Arcade
Out Zone and FixEight
Shock Troopers
Spin Master
What are your (honest) thoughts on Dangun Feveron?
Overrated. CAVE trying to relive their glory days, but it's just soulless slop. Just stick to Toaplan if you want that gameplay style.
as opposed to what? improving your social life? exercising? playing an instrument? living life? no obviously not even close.
Playing an instrument is the exact same kind of autistic bullshit that's pretty much useless in the real world.
What is it with trannies and bullet hell games? The bullet hell community is absolutely infested with them and they cause endless drama. They're also massive pieces of shit that won't share rare games online when they come into possession of them so no one else can get a higher score than them.
Wtf am I looking at. Troon t cells fighting off an infection in the mutilated space they call a vegana
>they won't even share r@re games online
The frick you're talking about.
You fricking idiot
He’s probably referring to how the ROM of Saidaioujou hasn’t been released except in that butchered romhack form. If I recall, this is because they don’t want to devalue the few PCBs that still exist (even though it’s a moot point because at this point any moron could get a modded 360 and play the game on there for less than $200)
卍
The non hacked SDOJ ROM was released ages ago.
I thought that was a restorative romhack using 360 assets?
No, the proper ROM is out there, rename it to the Daifukatsu one to play it in MAME
Actually based on NESiCA
SDOJ wasn’t released on NESiCA.
>What is it with trannies and bullet hell games?
I don't know, I don't interact with communities, instead I just play the games and enjoy myself
While most old shooters, especially 80s shooters, were designed for mashing, not autofire, mashing is a literal health hazard, so frick that. Even for some of those 80s games, when they were brought to home console had autofire added. Hellfire's port is as early as 1990 and has autofire.
This. There's a reason why NEC started including turbo on the included controllers in 1989. Even in the 80s people knew continuously mashing a button 10 times a second for hours isn't fun
>While most old shooters, especially 80s shooters, were designed for mashing, not autofire, mashing is a literal health hazard, so frick that.
Finally someone admits that old shooters were meant for mashing. I personally don't care if you use autofire. But at least you know gaming history.
I'm the only one on /vr/ who prefers classic shmups (Galaxian, Scramble, Phoenix) over the flashy shit we have today.
no. a lot of people like both types but there's has always been a subset of players who only like classic shooters or maniac shooters only.
i'm not that case but by the demographics here there is people here who only like older shooters.
is gradius a good shooter to start?
Back in my day we'd just play the god damn spaceship game instead of asking on the internet first
yeah it's pretty good genre. You don't have to be insanely good at them. The genesis and pc engine are a good place to start with stuff like Gleylancer, thunder force 3/4, and musha, and for pc engine air zonk, blazing lasers, or soldier blade. It's okay to use continues and autofire just starting out and try to have some patience. Stick with the game for a couple hours before trying the next one.
SHMUPS get better the older you get. When you want to sit down and play a game for a little bit while getting the full experiece out of a game. It's the genre to do that with.
check this game out, you'll thank me later!
excellent game.
My children, let me show days of old with the NES (or Famicom) game, GUN NAC!
awesome game, pretty sad that the game is so rare tho
I leaned about this game through the Famiclone handheld from Five Below, sadly it's not in the newer version but it's super fun
Cute 'em ups are easily my favorite shmups, whether it's Twinbee, Parodius, Cotton, Keio Flying Squadron, or Super Air Zonk. Just so much more fun to look at imo
This one autofire anon is missing the point. He said these 1980s ane 1990s games were designed with autofire in mind by the developers. That is simply not true. Many 1980s games malfunction with autofire running.
And even if the game can forced to use autofire with Mame that doesn't mean "it was designed to use autofire". It simply means you are forcing the game to shoot that fast. Either through Mame, another emulator, or a 3rd party device that is NOT endorsed by the developer.
Sure autofire became a thing later on (like with ports), but the developers themselves during the 1980s and 1990s (up to the mid 90s) did not make their original releases for autofire.
The only way anon can disapprove this is by providing us direct interviews from the 1980s with developers making their games with autofire. Preferably from a name brand studio.
>Many 1980s games malfunction with autofire running.
citation needed
Autofire became increasingly prevalent in the mid-late 80s with autofire circuits in Japanese arcades. Autofire wasn't the only way to play the game, but developers knew that a large portion of the Japanese playerbase (and vast majority of superplayers) were using autofire and they balanced their games around it, showed autofire in attract screens, and controllers for shmup/arcadey games had built-in turbo. By the 90s, autofire was basically universal.
And regardless of developer intent, the shmup and arcade community has collectively decided that mashing is awful for numerous reasons, so the collective decision was to allow autofire in all forms.
>Autofire became increasingly prevalent in the mid-late 80s with autofire circuits in Japanese arcades
Prove it.
At best you can prove autofire add ons existed.But you don't have evidence of them being wide spread or "prevalent". That requires hard data which you don't have.
As a former part time arcade worker when I was high school, we definitely didn't use these things in Western arcade cabinets. And we probably provided most of the revenue for Japanese arcade companies.
>And we probably provided most of the revenue for Japanese arcade companies.
lol delusional. arcade scene (especially for shmups/run and guns) was way, way bigger in Japan.
During peak of the arcade era Worldwide sales far surpassed Japan-only sales. This was both true for Japanese consoles and arcades.
Yep. The only reason Sega became so huge was because of sales from North America and Europe.
They did pretty decently in Japan during 5th gen considering the Saturn outsold the N64. But of course both got BTFO by the PS1
maybe for goyslop games, but run and guns and especially shmups were much bigger in Japan, and had a much more serious scene than the mindless quarter muncher throwaway entertainment mentality of western arcade gaming
>lol delusional. arcade scene (especially for shmups/run and guns) was way, way bigger in Japan.
This is such a lie. You don't know anything about gaming history. The Western Market was vastly bigger than Japan.
Not for the games we are discussing here. West was big in the golden era, and then in the 90s a lot of fighting games, a lot of lightgun games, a lot of racing games. Ask a western player about an arcade shmup, and like 90% of them have only ever heard of Raiden (and like 1% of them could even get past stage 2 on a single credit)
Run and guns, shmups, and beat em ups were much bigger in Japan, and the serious community was like 50x bigger in Japan, whereas western players just viewed it as disposable entertainment
>Run and guns, shmups, and beat em ups were much bigger in Japan
The shmup community may have been more concentrated and together in Japan due to the country being smaller. But they were not bigger than America and Europe put together. Western markets were vastly bigger and operated on a completely different scale. The West could buy cabinets faster than Japanese companies could make them. Shortages happened often due to Japan not having the infrastructure to fully mass produce cabinets to meet Western demand.
citation needed
>citation needed
You need a citation for the West buying more than Japan? You don't need a Citation. You need a history book. You arent qualified to even be in this discussion. Do more research anon.
not for the genres we are discussing you stupid fricking moron. shmups were an extremely niche genre in the west. Japan and the west played totally different genres.
>heh, autofire was prevalent on consoles, was prevalent throughout arcades with autofire circuits, was shown in attract screens, and was the standard for all WRs logged by JHA, but you don't have yearly autofire audits of thousands of arcades from the 80s so you're wrong!
only space invaders or games with limited shot limits break off, everything else after 1984 was made for autofire thanks to those games and people using it for certain fun experiences, the first games broke off then they were balanced thanks to autofire being a quality of life enhancement which makes the game more comfortable to play for both devs and players.
the single fire games couldn't be cheated most of the time tho, most of them have 1 shot limit and are based on having a lot of damage in one shot rather than being based around constant focus, they are different experiences which use different points and in both cases in most machines didn't affect the experience and made it better, even if it was to a much lesser extent on classic shooters.
i should have removed space invaders, that game doesn't break off with auto, it's just a very situational tool.
a) mashing is not a relevant skill for anything besides party games.
b) mashing is not a fun or enjoyable game mechanic for vast majority of players.
c) mashing is awful for your hand, your wrist, and your input device.
d) mashing is exhausting especially for longer sessions.
e) mashing is less viable on controller and keyboard compared to a stick/cabinet.
f) vast majority of games have fire rate caps well beyond human levels (15Hz, 20Hz, 30Hz).
g) many games feature shot limits which are only relevant at speeds which can only realistically be achieved with autofire. getting in close proximity to an enemy allows you to pointblank them, leading to risk/reward gameplay.
h) many Japanese cabinets even in the mid-late 80s had autofire circuit and developers knew this (attract screens would feature inhuman levels of autofire). Also, PCE (shmup-heavy platform) and NES Advantage had built-in autofire in the mid 80s
i) autofire is the Japanese standard (and has been for many decades) adopted by vast overwhelming majority of the Japanese arcade/shmup scene, and even a large majority of western players.
j) emulation, along with almost all future ports, support autofire.
k) autofire creates consistency across runs and consistency within competition.
l) autofire is openly stated when a run is recorded, and mashing scores are separated (depends on the game, many have scores merged).
m) mashing is an unfortunate relic of the western shmup scene. western arcade gaming was viewed as a mindless quarter muncher and featured stand-up cabinets, low-quality sticks and buttons, button mashing gameplay, non-default dip switches, and oftentimes neutered/unbalanced western ports. in comparison, Japanese arcade gaming was viewed as an art-form and a display of mastery with sit-down candy cabinets, high-quality sticks and buttons, autofire circuits (many with dials for different autofire rates), default dip switches, and the authentic Japanese version the developers intended.
>mashing is not a relevant skill
stopped reading there
Get good
saying "button mashing is not a skill" is the exact same thing as zoomers make all them stupid claims thread after thread because through the years the standards got lower
And then in 1987, NES Advantage came out, PC Engine came out (a true shmup machine with a controller with built-in autofire), and PCB autofire circuits started gaining popularity in arcades.
Japanese did this out of necessity, but as soon as autofire came out, it quickly gained traction and they never turned back. Very strange that western players pride themselves in mashing like a spastic. It's so funny when you see stuff like Tetris and Contra NES records being about who is able to mash fastest instead of who actually has good routing and strategy.
We aren't talking about consoles ya dumb butt.
Because autofire was a thing doesn't mean all games after that were designed for it. If you keep on the Famicom example, for the longest time only 1-2 companies factured the autofire controllers, so it's not like other companies would want to sell products for their competitors.
Being able to press buttons fast, consistentally and for a long period, is a skill that used to be the norm for those games so they were designed around the idea that any SHMUP player should be able to do at least 8-9 BPS.
The modern take is to think this means "it was designed for auto fire" because that skill has been long lost long the years, it's the exact same thing as people claiming "this action sidescroller was made bullshit on purpose because of rentals", that is to say a revisionist cope, a generalization made out of a couple of examples
It was a skill for a few years in the early-mid 80s, and then there is 30+ years of precedence that it is no longer a relevant skill. There are still some separated leaderboards if you feel inclined to mash like a spastic.
the thing is autofire players have zero issue acknowledging they use autofire and separating the leaderboards. it's only mashing morons that screech and cry about how autofire is cheating and it shouldn't count at all. It's just a coping mechanism for being shit at the game so you latch onto any advantage you can, even if the other players literally don't even care at all about how good they are mashing, so it's basically just a competition with yourself.
Irrelevant. We are talking about official arcade releases of games that did NOT have autofire. Games required pure skill. Then you came jumping into the thread screeching about autofire and insulting everyone who didn't use it. Everything else you are talking about is irrelevant.
you have zero clears lol
You talk like a person with autism. Have even beaten a Shmup or Run & Gun without autofire?
Autism is still insisting on mashing tens of thousands of times an hour when everyone else already moved onto autofire. And then you're so proud of mashing like a spastic, you go online and troll dozens of threads about how autofire is cheating. Get a life man, do something productive
Half the thread is telling you that you are wrong. We know it's you samegayging because as soon as you go to bed, the thread goes back to normal and all samegayging stops.
>one samegayging spammer
>half this thread
Lol, lmao even
You can tell it's the same anon because he always says autofire circuit and gets upset when anyone insults Japan.
He's a weeb.
Yep. He always says the same thing.
1. Autofire circuit
2. Random Button mashing insult
3. Japan is best
4. Random Boomer insult
Then he'll fill a thread with samegay insults.
No one cares about Japan.
No one cares about your YouTube channel with no subscribers.
No one in Japan cares about you.
You will never live in Japan.
You will never be Japanese.
no one cars about you smashing a button and causing you injuries, because nobody cares it's much better to enjoy the moment and use autofire.
cares*
Stop trying to tell people how to play a game.
If they want to use autofire then fine.
If they don't want to use autofire then fine.
Let people enjoy things the way they want.
i'm telling you that you are a moron by causing yourself an rsi that you can stop by using autofire.
They're probably just trolling. No one who isn't mentally ill in some way wants to repeatedly mash a button literally 30 000 times per hour
What are you? The button police? Stop telling people how to play the game. This is why no one likes you.
we aren't telling you to do it just that you are a moron by your choice.
i just like to answer these things just in case it isn't ironic, i know that it can be dumb but it's still useful when there's a case when someone really believed the things they were saying.
>we aren't telling you to do it just that you are a moron by your choice.
>we
YOU spent half the thread insulting anyone who doesn't use autofire. Stop lying. And stop telling people how to play games. Let people enjoy what they want.
i'm just telling you that you are moronic for not using autofire, in general getting angry by that is like getting angry when someone tells you not to drink bleach when you are trying to, it's just an advice from a moronic practice except on certain games like space invaders or galaxian (just like using bleach on a toilet, not on your mouth)
>i'm just telling you that you are moronic for not using autofire,
No one else here cares.
ok. if you want to improve tap firing use two fingers and tap by doing a swiping motion to shoot if you are playing on an arcade stick, if you are playing on a controller you are shit out of luck.
If companies wanted their games to have autofire then they would put autofire in them. Unofficial Mods don't count. It's like saying Street Fighter 2 Rainbow Edition is the best version of Street Fighter because of autofire. So dumb.
How do i know what is the optimal way to play them with arcade rules? Infinite lives is a mindless bore and trying to 1CC them is not an option.
Any other casual console shooter gamers? I consider them beaten when I beat the default difficulty on 1cc. I might play hard if I REALLY like the game.
I don't care if the arcade version is considered better by someone who has thousands of hours put into the game.
It's a slippery slope that starts with ikaruga and ends up with you trying to speed run bullet hell shooters while you're high on estrogen and poppers.
>autofires in you are path
I've played all sorts of Famicom SHMUPs, early and late ones, and the only one that felt like it was designed for auto-fire was Hector 87, which coincidentally was released at the same time as the first Famicom auto-fire controller and was advertised alongside it.
In that game, during the vertical segment, when you know what's coming, you have JUST enough time to get by killing half of the enemies WITH auto fire.
this also means that any Famicom SHMUP before Hector could not have been designed with autofire since it didn't exist
And the autofire autist ruins another perfectly good thread. He's like the KOOL Aid man. You mention the word autofire and he shows up and yells at everyone who doesn't use it
Using autofire when the developers did not intend can allow you to skip mechanics and phases of battles that would be far more odious without it. I’ve looked up videos for plenty of “high scores” by well known YouTubers that have runs that are simply not possible in the arcade because they used autofire.
Autofire should not exceed what is humanly possible with your body.
>shmups :
>shmups, cute anime girls with funny hats :0
I'm definitely not trying to go for world record scores, so for me it totally depends on the game. For Darius Gaiden, the default fire rate is more than enough to get you through the game if you know what you're doing, so for me I don't need Turbo to beat the game. That goes for a alot of run n gun games like Metal Slug. The game is totally beatable without autofire.
Another thread proving that shmupgays are deranged
Why are you trying so hard to dab on one genre? Did you get bullied by shmup fans in school?
Nah I like shmups, I just don't make it my personality like some insane furry.
We are, potentially even worse than fightangays.
Constantly at war with each other, mouthbreathing morons as you can see for yourself.
The only shmup series I got into is Touhou, everything else is way too hard.
Try Star Parodier or the Twinbee games on lowest difficulty
No, thanks, for me it's the bug princess.
Touhou is harder than quite a few console oriented shooter series. Have you played the Aleste games?
Though for a bullet hell series, I guess not too many are easier than Touhou.
Try GG Aleste, it's a bit simple but you should be able to handle it as long as you've got the right weapon. It's fun!
Yea
What's that, too tough 4 u?
I 1cc'd it, moron.
Mushihimesama Futari is really fun on normal difficulty.
This sort of thing is an eyesore though. I like graphics in my shooters.
1CC claims on this board are the lmao 3plate of Ganker
Everyone says they do it, no one ever proves it
It is pretty funny how many hardcore shmup masters there supposedly are on this board. It isn't hard to grab a screenshot if you've done it. For the record, I've never 1cc'd an arcade shooter in my life.
It took me a about year of playing a round or two daily. Anyone can do it. Just play the damn game.
I plan on giving one or two I really like a serious go in the near future.
It's very rewarding, I still remember the first time I got to the credits. Just pick a game you like and stick to it. I played some other games to mix it up sometimes but only occasionally. A round or two a day for a year is barely 200 hours total, totally doable. I'm not even very good at video games.
Yeah, I've 1cc home console shooters and touhou games before, and it feels great to win. I just haven't had the dedication to seriously try an arcade one yet. The difficulty increase is not insignificant. Will likely be something easy (though not just because easy, I love the graphics and aesthetic) like Batsugun.
Your gif reminds me of those color switching Hot Wheels. I liked those
Sauce for the gif?
Nvm found it: https://www.deviantart.com/ssack11/art/Hijiri-Byakuren-646649647
How the frick are you this incompetent? I can understand having few clears due to lack of play because the games are boring, but a whole damn year for a fricking shitclear? Get outta here
We have a videogame savant here.
>1-2 runs a day
>why does it take a year
hurr
30 minutes of practice a day for a year is still 180 hours you dumb shitter moron
I have a full time job, and yet somehow it still takes you moronic neets way longer to do basic shitclears.
I already did the math, Black person. You sound srlty mad. Are you OK?
get a job
Cope. The first Mushihimesama isn't even that hard unless you go with ultra mode.
It's fun to watch these threads. I get to see all the old /shmupg/ baits, that haven't been effective there in years, posted by the exact same tired losers, used on people who haven't seen them yet. It's like watching a new generation of kids discover old video games, only tragic and sad instead of hopeful and nostalgic.
go play mars matrix
I prefer Mars/Deimos rising to that.
Also Parodius.
You wouldn't if you played Mars Matrix.
Consider the following:
No.
Always
What are some cute shmups?
Twinbee!
Twinbee series, Parodius series, Cotton series, Star Parodier, Air Zonk and Super Air Zonk, Harmful Park, maybe a few others like Twinkle Star Sprites and Captain Tomaday
And somehow I forgot my favorite one
Could this get released today? Imagine how journalists would react to a game with a cute little girl wearing a playboy bunny costume
The second game is worse in that regard if you watch some of the later cutscenes (some very weird dialog in there which is assuming why it never got a North American release). If they can get away with giant mermaid breasts in Shantae though then it should be fine
But how do I acquire proficiency at the execution of the gameplay activity?
Use save states, multiple per level, learn every section and a good route through them, practice a lot, only play one game, until you've met every goal you wanted to and move onto the next, but don't do another game until you have at least 150 hours into the first one, of course find a game you really like first, if you can do all that then you can worry about scoring system strategies.
I'm not gonna play for score.
Just to be able to finish something harder than the easier dariusburst route,.
Will not be playing on emu, so savestates are a no go.
Current target is just managing to survive well in tf ac
Also, practicing for an hour or two here and there is a lot easier if you turn the sound down some, and listen to your own music, or watch a movie or something, I suppose its like practicing a part on an instrument. You just have to put the work in. Console shmups make this easier too, with more options and difficulty levels, but no save states. Although some have good training modes. Also there is no shame in pausing and writing down notes. This can help expidite the whole routing thing.
Also, study into the game a bit, Battle Garegga will seem impossible if you don't read up on it first. Its like if From Soft made a 2d shmup. You are punished for everything.
So is this the official "you start a shmup thread using this" pic? I see it all the time starting these threads.
thankfully the /vg/ autism has been quelled compared to how bad it was a few years ago.
Yes
>Is it actually worth it to get into shmups?
frick yes.
> donpachi
it took me such a long time to get good at this game
Space Harrier is liked here right?
get into pinball instead
schmups are long dead
the current GOAT pinball table is less than two years old, and more are being made
Any shmups with RPG elements?
bump
Not many, thankfully.
Keep jarpig cancer away from good genres.
Radiant silver gun
Guardian Legend, if you count Zelda as an RPG. It was similar to Zelda but with shmup levels instead of dungeons.
Sigma Star Saga had shmup random encounters which were pretty bad. It was an ok game but not worth it from a shmup perspective.
Can anyone point me to a working ROM for Dodonpachi III? Also apparently Daioujou isn't the master ROM anymore
Truxton, Truxton, we want Truxton.