I didn't like BG3 and looking for something else. And it looks like RTwP, does it work well?
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I didn't like BG3 and looking for something else. And it looks like RTwP, does it work well?
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The first person you meet in the game is a magical troony with lesbian orc wife. Keep walking chuddie.
hot
>See big orc lady
>HECK_YES.JPG
>She runs towards Anivia
>Know exactly where this is going
>Get proven right a second after
I'm still mad, I also want a big org gf
Paizo a shit. You cant romance barbarian lady in the first game or even big nigress in the second. You only get homosexuals and lesbians
>casually alters the literal universe to undo this
nothing personnel
It has much more gays and trannies than BG3
But BG3 has ONLY gays and troons, even orcs and animals are.
It's kino and every single time I do a trash fight in BG3 I miss the RTWP toggle, it's a godsend
Is it not possible to mod a real time mod in BG3?
just mod an entirely different game system in bro
Pathfinder's turn based mode was originally a mod that they decided to officially support, it's not impossible
They didn't take the mod and integrated. They used it as basis for the turn based mode they created, but didn't take the actual code or anything like that.
>trash fight in BG3
I've encountered exactly 0 (zero) "trash" fights in BG3 so far, I'm somewhere mid-act 2. You're a lying homosexual.
that is mainly due to the fact that you are trash and suck at videogames
You won't be able to name me a singular trash encounter in bg3.
Every encounter.
wasn't so hard.
What did you dislike about BG3?
>RTwP
Yes, it has TB too, but it was clearly designed as RTWP first and foremost
The combat was a total slog. Taking 5 minutes to kill a few goblins is just annoyingly long and why RTwP seems much better.
>Taking 5 minutes to kill a few goblins
As opposed to 5 minutes buffing your entire party for a fight that lasts 15 seconds?
It's slightly less gay than BG3 but it's rtwp and based on pathfinder instead of 5e so gameplay is much better.
no
yes
Btw they just added a software in the recent update which tracks your system info including usage details and what not to be sold to chinese companies.
they removed it tho
The fact they added it to a two year old game is a huge red flag.
they removed it after the complaint moron.
>casually adds a tracking software without any opt out
>devs defend it by lying that "it is a standard industry practice"
>people point out that it is mandatory under GDPR and other regulations, and that what owlcat was not legal
>removes it from the game asap without any apology or any sort of statement on what went wrong
>moronic simps continue to defend owlkek
Continue to support a company which will prostitute you and your data out for literally peanuts from shaddy data analytics companies from China.
yeesh. don't feel so bad about pirating wotr now. I was going to buy rogue trader on release as well.
I wonder what those white knights who defend even the absolutely unethical practices of soulless video game corporations or any corporation for that matter of fact even get from it.
that was indeed a really shitty move by Owlcat, but you do realize that Larian have been collecting data from their players for 3 years now, right? Yes, that was what you signed up for when you played the EA, but nobody at Larian has said anything that the data tracking is removed from the full game. And considering you have to install their own launcher when playing BG3, I really wouldn't get my hopes up that Larian isn't collecting player data.
If your game crashes the report sending is voluntary
>but you do realize that Larian have been collecting data from their players for 3 years now, right?
Holy shit i just remember that Larian made a big stink about people picking Human male Fighter/cleric/paladin instead of the various other races. only way they could have know is through data collecting telemetry
They still require you to confirm data collection even in full game.
But I can't find a way to access that shit.....
Anon, it's a full-fledged "we have the right to collect information about your ip and other shit".
So how come people are given Larian a pass for data collecting? I'd imagine a lot of the people who were (rightfully) complaining about Owlcat doing this are also playing BG3.
Holy frick I actually can't find that shit about data gathering I agreed to.
Not in the game, nor in the larian website.
It was like agreement at game startup that no one reads.
Owlcat didn't have it on release and tried to add it in the patch and mentioned it in the patch notes.
>So how come people are given Larian a pass for data collecting?
probably because they didn't change the EULA in a recent patch. even than i am not gonna play BG3 because of this now. i don't like companies knowing how many times i have killed Camellia and Wenduag and romanced Arue and Daeran
God I hate these c**ty, homosexual launchers on games. I bought the thing through steam, that IS the launcher. Adding your own launcher is just a pointless hurdle and you need to frick right off.
It’s especially fricking obnoxious in big picture mode.
Frick launchers.
There was a pretty big apology anon where they said they fricked up, I still think they're stupid Black person morons for listening to their publisher and putting that shit in. The game is still good though
I don't care for their apology, nor should you. They removed the spyware, that's all that I require from them.
Ok bro. They just tried to steal shit from you but they dropped the plan so it's alright now.
I steal their games so I forgive them
And thus justice has been rendered.
>but they dropped the plan so it's alright now.
yeah? i dunno what else you expect
[Lawful good] you were planning to commit theft, you shall punished, cretin.
That's LN behaviour moron. a good guy believes in redemption arc.
a """good""" guy. regill was probably the only actual morally upstanding person in the game.
>le deus vult lawtard larping as the good guy again
Uh huh
what are you even talking about
he's good because he's principled and logical. a character like seelah cannot be good because she will bend her principles for the sake of emotion and create a cognitive dissonance within herself.
That's not what makes someone good moron, morality has nothing to do with practicality
i never said anything about practicality. morality have everything to do with principle and will. somebody who makes it their business to only have well reasoned beliefs, and then live according to those beliefs is good. somebody who just does what "feels" nice and then violates their own principles because locking up their friend for the crime that friend committed would feel bad to them is not a good person. when you make exceptions for your friends and family you are not a good person. that makes you a nepotist and corrupt.
>le evil guy is good because he is based!
you will never be Lawful good you Lawful Evil scum
God i hate Lawful """good""" gays who just wants to murderhobo without any justification whatsoever
regill being the opposite of that is why he's the only moral character. the "good" characters screech OH NO A LICH KILL IT RIGHT NOW DON'T EVEN LET IT TALK when you run into it, and regill says "okay, let's hear it out and then decide what to do". one of those is dogmatic and evil, the other is rational and open to reason.
Kek, Regill does the exact same thing but with demons instead
>the "good" characters screech OH NO A LICH KILL IT RIGHT NOW DON'T EVEN LET IT TALK when you run into it, and regill says "okay, let's hear it out and then decide what to do". one of those is dogmatic and evil, the other is rational and open to reason.
and that's a good thing homosexual. Lich are pure negative evil abominations. they should be purged rather than left alive. and funny that you say the same thing about Regill because he goes full mouth frothing and tells you kill Arue even tho she helped the crusade and give the enemies base location
So you just admitted to being a "lawful good murder hobo" who doesn't use justification.
>bro just give me back my wand and i will make you and many others into Lichtroony if i feel like it because i was good guy in life but being a basement loser turned me into a Evil incel
yeah no. you seem like the kind of guy that would help Alderpash get out of the prison because he was nice and gave you the protection against chaos rune forgetting that the guy is a powerful lich tyrant
I always let him talk and then kill him, he's still a dangerous lich who should be put down
>talking and agreeing help from a Lich? completely reasonable and rational bro and not evil
>killing innocent because they are infected with a diseases that can easily be quarantined? it's justifiable, you wouldn't get it
>killing people because they don't agree with me? they deserved to be drowned.
>taking the mega evil sword and listening to the evil voice inside my head? it's for the le greater good
how much are you willing to slip before you become what you were meant to destroy?
Purging the city was unironicly the correct choice
>without any justification whatsoever
Frick off chaotic good moron. You repltilian brain dominated beings can't comprehend the concept of scales of justice.
Most lawful options lead to direct confrontation anyway.
The slave market is the biggest part of an entire act of the game.
much better than bg3 especially with mods
there are a lot of mods with which you can make an almost perfect game.
Wtf are you guys talking about? Mods in wotr are either about balancing stuff or visual adjustments or cheat mods. There's nothing substantial in pathfinder mods.
Tabletop Tweaks
Dark Codex
Worldcrawl
Just a few of them
You forgot about the actual most important mod, BubbleBuffs.
name them
God, the end game of Kingmaker is the most annoying shit ever.
I thought the house at the edge of time was going to be the worst the game would get, but the game sure showed me what true ball ache is like with the lantern king's curse. Who the frick thought giving you a 40% chance of rolling a nat1 was a good fricking idea. And then you get an encounter with 10+ NPCs that barely do shit and you're left watching the game play itself while fricking nobody can roll for shit.
yeah its good
re: magical trannies, the original tabletop adventure path that the game is based on had a bunch of shit shoved into the first book, because the writer was a jaded woman that wanted to push her troony inserts instead of writing a module. she got replaced for the later books, but the content stayed.
I guess when they adapted the game they decided to keep that shit in either because paizo asked them, or in hopes of scoring brownie points with dumb western games journalists
its hilarious too because once you go past the first hour of the game it becomes apparent that the characters in question are absolutely moronic, and you can shit on them at every opportunity. (the more evil mythic paths can also go beyond that)
do you know why in class selection/trait/equip the text says always "she" for referring to the character?
in my language the "default" pronoun for everything is the masculine one, so it took me by surprise.
d20pfsrd uses the same standard
>do you know why in class selection/trait/equip the text says always "she" for referring to the character?
It's not "always". It's just often.
In Pathfinder, the gender of the pronoun used in class descriptions matches the gender of the "Iconic Character" representing that class. A fair number of those are women, hence the abundance of "she/her".
Cavalier's description, for example, uses "he/him" because the iconic Cavalier is a man.
Ah I see, thanks
>do you know why in class selection/trait/equip the text says always "she" for referring to the character?
iconics. pic related is the Cavalier iconic
Except that never happened, and the article was speculation.
They added it specifically to their EULA about a year ago. There was a huge outrage then, and shills like you said stuff at the time like "uhh... guys, it's just boilerplate legalese, they'd never actually do what they're saying they'll do!"
Then they did it.
They didn't do it, though. Katapeshi slave markets still exist in the setting, and Andoran is still dedicated to freeing slaves.
oh my bad, was thinking about the spyware, not this slavery wokeism thing.
spyware came with an updated EULA you had to explicitly agree with regardless of whether or not did you agree with the previous EULA, so whatever moronic point you were trying to make is also wrong.
awkward
why are you replying to the same schizo who posts his *shocking* 2 part boilerplate revelation every thread?
she cute
Personally I think so. I have hundreds of hours in the Pathfinder games. I tried BG3 but couldn't get into it. Wotr hooked me instantly and I played almost nonstop for a week. I think it's the build autism that sucks me in. Owlcat suck at pacing and overarching story but they're great at dungeon crawling and making you feel powerful. There's a ton of reading which I didn't mind but some people are put off by that.
I also tried divinity os but it never clicked for me. There was something off about larian games, about their world design and graphics. I can't put my finger on it.
you simply have an aversion for slop
Their games are extremely normal gay reddit tier but their business practices are pretty good. No microtransactions, no DLC and the early access was actually well utilized (considering and incorporating feedback from their players) unlike most other EA titles. I wish there were more studios like them. The industry is riddled with toxic companies who would sell their soul for making money more effectively.
>no DLC
They do though
Same here. I got BG3 for free so I decided to get DOS2 on sale to see what the fuss is about since people seem to like it. I couldn't get into it. I'm sure they're great games but Pathfinder is like crack to me. Every free hour I had went to WotR even after beating the game I spend a hundred hours fricking around in the endless dungeon mode trying to figure out weird or absurdly powerful class+mythic combinations with tailwinds (bonuses exclusive to endless mode).
Not so sure about that. Larian seems like a competent developer, what little I played of BG3 reminded me of Bioware circa Mass Effect.
same.
It's the writing and worldbuilding. It's hard to say exactly what, but it's neither engaging nor interesting in either game. BG3 is a lot better in this regard, but it's still not as good as Pathfinders.
same. i tried DOS1 because my firends like it but after playing it for maybe 5 hours i uninstalled it because i couldn't take the witty and shitty humour anymore. Will give DOS2 a try in the future
For me, at least, I got very bored of the combat is both Original Sin games. Every fight takes forever. I dropped 2 after the first tutorial island because that's already 20 hours long. I couldn't stomach another 30-50 hours of that shit
I think it has something to do with how generic everything is in larian games. There isn't any ingenuity in them, they just make good generic games which you could play and forget within hours. The only memorable things in them are the shenanigans you can do during combat like throwing enemies into stuff or stuff at enemies or fricking up your friends intentionally in coop, etc.
divine divinity was pretty unique but only by pure chance.
it's because it's all insincere and "light hearted"
both pathfinder games may have quite a lot of reddit writing but at least they know to make the story mostly serious
than i don't what the frick is wrong with my mods. the error has basically frozen my current trickster grenadier playthrough.
meant for
just uninstall and reinstall
it's okay. looks like i have the wrong version installed. fixed it by downloading the previous release.
i only used it once and never picked it up again after getting bored of it in Act 2. the mythic feats are cool tho, especially the one that allows you to increase your magic DC and damage dice
>isekai mod
Honestly? Larian is a nostalgia brand. Its game were increndible back in my day but not necessarily anymore. They dominated the isometric RPG market for the past decades, but now you have games like Pathfinder, Underrail, etc outperforming them as they exceed in refining different designs of the genre while Larian only stays focused in reinventing the wheel with each release.
>outperforming them
How? Didn't BG3 have almost a million concurrent players?
in quality
I haven't played the Larian games yet, but PF and Underrail are some of my favorite CRPGs. How are they better than Divinity for example?
Elden Ring has an even greater all-time record, but if given the choice, you rather replay that game for the first time again instead of Dark souls/Bloodborne? That's the point.
>Its game were increndible back in my day but not necessarily anymore.
Their games were interesting at best.
>They dominated the isometric RPG market
No they didn't, They weren't even brought up outside of the first divinity or 2, after that they faded to other games.
i enjoy build autism but the gameplay, exploration and shitty rpg writing filters me. pls help
Have you tried the standalone dungeon DLC? Midnight Isles iirc. It's pure gameplay, there's a tiny bit of story if you care to read the items and talk to an NPC but that's 2% of the entire adventure. Some people hate it since it really distills the game down to its basics. Fight, open chest, disarm trap, move on, fight, loot, exit area, rest up, go to next area and repeat. It's great for experimenting with builds or if you're tired of running around on the overworld talking to dickheads.
sounds perfect for me. i'll check it out, thanks
you can get both Kingmaker games on Steam in a bundle for 80% off right now, I mean... $15 for two games with 50+ hours of content each at least... seems worth it.
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/23987/Pathfinder__Collectors_Edition/
It's cheap because you ARE the products. They're selling your date
Thank you for the free advertisement pajeet, I will go and pirate them.
Im gonna say a little bit, people talked about the gameplay and liked the characters. With bg3 people are just saying they are bored and that they don't like anyone in the party.
I saw some long gameplay videos of BG3. My initial impression of the party members was that they are extremely one dimensional in nature, lack depth and had god awful dialogue. Maybe once I get the game and experience the complete story, my impression might change.
I'm not very far in, but I like Shadowheart and her edgy tryhard bullshit being undercut by her otherwise girlish nature. Gale's pretty chill but I'm fully expecting the game to try and slip his wiener in my ass simply because I'm not being rude for no reason.
>likeable characters in anything written by millennial twitter virtue signaling homosexuals
It's good, if somewhat boring at times.
BG3 is miles better though, so you aren't gonna like it anyway.
Not OP but which pathfinder game do I get first?
Kingmaker is probably better to get/play first but just get both in a bundle mega cheap see
you'll regret it if you don't just pick both up THAT cheap.
Hey
. Don't FOMO just because it is cheap. I would suggest you to try a demo (or pirate it) and play for an hour or two before deciding to buy it. Even if the collection is like 15$, it's better to try it before buying as pathfinder is not definitely everyone's cup of tea.
kingmaker is pretty shit honestly, it was worth it when it came out but it might sour you on WOTR as it does a lot wrong with pacing and some bullshit quests. WOTR improved on it in every way
Kingmaker is more grounded since you don't become God and you rule your own barony instead of becoming knight commander of an anti demon crusade to save the world. That being said Wrath has more quality of life, better explanations for new players and more subclasses. If you're new to the system reading is MANDATORY or you will die and ragequit a lot. I'm not sure you can go back to Kingmaker if Wrath is your first game. It's easy for me since I finished KM before Wrath even came out but it's showing its age for sure. KM has better companions in my opinion and I still miss them. Wrath just never made me really care about them except for one or two.
WotR also spoils you by giving you the mythic powers and expanded spellslots. Going back to Kingmaker it feels like you're playing with only half your tools.
ascended element and greater enduring spells are so amazing it's hard to go back
Kingmaker has the better story, atmosphere, and pacing (at least until you get to the end of the game), but mechanically it's a little rough. WotR's story is worse, but mechanically it's a lot better, more classes, spells, etc, and mythic powers are great.
Paizo are obnoxious as frick. Heres their reasoning for no samurai class
>reduces real-world cultures to caricatures and perpetuates stereotypes about people from those cultures.
Unless this culture is our ideological or military opponent, then we can portray them as inhumans and insult their mentality.
I think not having a Samurai class is fine because you can build a Samurai out of fighter, cleric and champion with zero issues but that reasoning is fricking stupid.
Now i'm curious: how?
>make fighter
>give katana and a bow
>wear robes or suitable aesthetic armor
Done.
Oh also you need to make sure they're educated / middle to upper class ish. Samurai weren't fodder peasant soldiers.
You might want something like a single level of scaled fist, since some practicing in hand to hand martial arts would've been expected.
But this game doesn't have katanas either
Elven Curved Blades are just fantasy katana
cool. when are they removing Paladin and Druid than and making them prestige classes?
But somehow it's okay for men to put on womanface and insist that stereotypes are the only thing that make a woman a woman.
>samurai
>damaging stereotype
what the frick is going on in their lead infused broken minds?
samurais are fricking badass, everyone loves them.
those people fricking SICKENING me
Isn't samurai just a swordlord though.
Ah yes, because a caricature is so much worse than the reality of slaughtering, raping, and pillaging.
You mean the reality which is promptly ignored by the universe?
Show me where do either Pathfinder or DnD makes a realistic, genuine take on raping, pillaging, slaughter, prostitution, abuse... ah, wait, yeah, never.
What are you trying to say.
You're arguing that having caricatures is worse than the reality of slaughtering, raping, and pillaging which isn't really present in the universe anyhow.
The complaint makes no sense. If they are unwilling to go for caricatures, they are sure as hell no going to go for realism and actually implement hard topics like that no matter if they go for caricatures or not.
>You're arguing that having caricatures is worse
Do you have aspergers, or esl? What I wrote was obviously sarcasm.
>What I wrote was obviously sarcasm.
And I'm telling you that it doesn't work for the aforementioned reason.
If they're unwilling to add a samurai because it's a stereotype or some shit, then they'd never implement topics you brought up in your post.
Kingmaker's kingdom management system is tacked-on "subverting expectations" bullshit, and turns the game into a chore.
Better game but more woke.
They have already brainwashed too many people.
Plus they are inventing jobs for morons that would other wise unemployable like Diversity Officer.
https://blog.ongig.com/job-titles/diversity-titles/
I mean look at this shit.
>inventing new jobs
>diversity officers
What do you mean it is new? We used to jesters even back in the middle ages.
>I didn't like this low complexity crpg game so will I like this high complexity crpg game?
Frick no. Stick to fortnite.
>And it looks like RTwP, does it work well?
Sounds like youre looking for something easier/simpler (since youre asking for a realtime auto battle mode), and Pathfinder is the opposite of that. Its character spreadsheet autism : the game
Also, PF is a turn based system. Playing it in realtime is a bit like playing chess in realtime. You kinda can do it but half of the stuff and mechanics dont work the way theyre meant to work (ie. initiative, flat footed rounds, grenadiers are dogshit in RTWP, casters are much weaker than they supposed to be, you can burst down certain bosses before they even get their full round attacks off etc.; basically just a cheese way to play the game)
Both Pathfinders are good though if youre looking for a pretty complex RPG.
RTwP for trash mobs, TB for harder fights is perfection.
There isn't a single encounter in this game that doesn't qualify as trash mob. Some "bosses" die faster than packs of demons.
>Pathfinder is the opposite of that. Its character spreadsheet autism : the game
That axe thrower and his pet dragon in the village really fricked me up until I had to read through most of the classes, and tally how many attack and AC buffs I can actually stack.
It’s extremely good and one of the best RPGs in years. Anyone who says it’s woke us a flaming moron.
Forgot to mention, I recommend playing it in turn-based mode.
>I recommend playing it in turn-based mode
Great advice, if you want to die of boredom.
At least in rtwp mode you can die of boredom somewhat faster.
Turn based against bosses
RTWP against trash mobs
>bosses
In this game, those are just big trash mobs.
Just yesterday finished my first WOTR run, as an Aasimar Angel Paladin who was romancing Camelia, of course. Played on hard, the fifth act onwards everything was just dying to my party auto attacking with little to no micro except for demon lords where I had to turn on midnight bolts. The only frustrating thing was to rebuff. Also, what's up with mounts/pets being so busted in this game, I had three in my party, one from my paladin, the other one from Camelia and the third one from Daeran. Pets trip with just auto attacking, what the hell? They tripped even bosses for me. And for some bosses before act 5 my Arcane Trickster Nenio was just murdering all those playful or whatever darknesses with rays combined with bonus damage from sneak attacks and fire/golden dragon legacies.
Also Arushalae's story is 1:1 a loose girl I met a while back. She was sleeping around, doing ganbangs since 14, she even looks similar to Aru - has short hair and similar face features kek. Btw why did they remove Terrain Mastery from Espionage Expert, the Aru's subclass?
Is it true that I can and should skip kingmaker
What? No. Why would you think that?
Because I saw people say that once, that the games aren't connected and kingmaker isn't that good
Kingmaker has a far better story and setting, it's a little lacking mechanically compared to PotR but it's 100% worth a play.
Kingmaker is far better and less bloated than WotR, if Kimgmaker is a 7.5/10, WotR is a generous 6
>press skip 200 times and visit the same 10 locations copy pasted all over the map
Yeah, sure lmao
Better than faux HoMM and ultra giha homie number bloat
>Better than faux HoMM
You fricking wish, it sucks, but it's still better than kingdom management thanks to pic related
If you're going to cheese it you might as well just turn it off
Not an argument, you can turn both off. But crusade mode can be easily cheesed, kingdom management can still make you fail events even on the lowest difficulty and absolutely nothing can help you with this
Hell, not even mods can help you with that, while the battles in crusade mode can be skipped 100%
>pick right options and good general and troops
>win every fight easily
>this is cheesing
>>pick right options and good general and troops
Do you really feel rewarded for thinking, given that fireball and Marksmen are the correct choice for 99% of encounters?
It's just tedious clicking once you find out.
>Do you really feel rewarded for thinking
No, it fricking sucks
>anon complains about minmaxing in a series known for autistic buildautism and minmaxing
Take a step back and think about what you just said.
After playing through the game once, I usually play with a higher party movement speed and guaranteed rolls 20 so that I can easily rush through all filler combat encounters as I find them boring and I honestly quite enjoy the sight and sounds of exploding enemies. Same applies to armies.
It's just very shallow compared to the minmaxing of character builds. They're not really comparable.
I disagree. only thing good about Kingmaker is the low adventure feel. Wotr improves everything. better companions and waifus, better classes, better qol and having pets mounts is great
>better companions and waifus
LOL
yes. every companion in Wotr BTFO the one in Kangmaker. cry about it.
he isn't wrong. I rarely see any talk about Valarie, octavia and the twins. but i constantly have see threads about Arue, Nenio, Regill and Camellia
Valerie and the twins were good, octavia was a filthy ugly prostitute for NTR loving gays
Valarie is a c**t and twins are paper thin. Not sure what they were thinking with regongar and octavia. The only lads i personally loved were jubilost and ekun
>The only lads i personally loved were jubilost and ekun
This and Harrim, he spoke to me on an instinctual level
>women characters are superficial
Owlcat did an accurate job of portraying realistic women characters. What's wrong?
the Twins are good imo but there romance quest is beyond shit. 90% of the romance is with evil twin and all it takes to romance them is just agreeing to frick the hot one and that's it. I like them but Arue pretty much blows them out of the water honestly
>vanilla game companion beats DLC character in terms of content
no shit moron. what else is new? even than the twins are better than the other two options.
Ulbrig exists and he has an actual romance that isn't four conversations long
Owlcat simply fricked up
>better companions and waifus
it cant compare to bg3/tw3 when it comes to graphics/animations/gameplay/soundtrack/writing/characters but its a decent budget alternative that fits a niche if you are really into number crunching and managing inventories and creating theory builds etc. feels a bit soulless since they obviously dont care about the writing much, but its not awful. 7/10 id say
It's not good. It's kino.
It's really good. It feels like an evolution of the old Baldur's Gate games with significantly more build autism, QoL improvements and glorious high-level D&D bullshit, webm related. RTwP should work fine but might get difficult in end-game encounters, i've only ever played it in turn-based mode.
Some homosexuals love to complain about woke in the game, but what little there is is front-loaded at the start. You won't mind as long as you're not actively looking for something to complain about.
I fricking love buff stacking so much. Amping yourself up to full power to fight a strong opponent is part of the experience.
Based buff brother. I started an angel playthrough recently and aegis of the faithful + the 24h spells ability feels so good.
>Do all that shit
>Baphomet wipes all your buffs at the start of the fight.
Goddamn that was such a power move. Caught me off guard when he did that.
Yeah, when he did that I almost shat myself, but then he spent the whole fight dealing 1 or 2 damage to a bunch of spider swarms I summoned, so I just reapplied most of the buffs again.
>plan to distract him with nenio's spells
>he turns her into a fricking dog
>she stays a dog after the fight is finished
>don't care because the dude had a cool theme song
Buffstacking is an inherently unfun gameplay concept.
Finished it literally yesterday and had a blast. It offers a pretty big powerfantasy trip, especially if you like playing a good guy (the Angel path fricking rocks)
I will say Pathfinder is kind of a shit system but being in videogame form cuts down on things significantly. Go with a lower difficulty if you don't know PF in and out. Higher difficulty mainly just means higher enemy defenses, so a whole lot of missing and dying if you don't build the most optimized nightmare build possible.
I personally really liked the writing. The companions all felt fairly likable to me, and the quests generally had decent or good writing. Game was pretty challenging in the early and midgame but eventually gets hilariously easy as you reach the end.
Would recommend certain mods. Worldcrawl and Bubble Buff Bot are both pretty essential imo. Toybox is nice for certain QoL features (and enabling achievements since normally mods, QoL or not, disable achievements which you might care about)
>Worldcrawl
Doesn't this change the game a bit too much for a first playthrough?
Have you played kingmaker? What did you think if so, worth playing first?
Yes it's good and better than bg3 and I'm saying that even though I hate all that tribalism.
Pathfinder simply blows away bg3 in quests design, story, and world.
Wotr is much more forgiving and has a ton of qol stuff.
Otherwise both games are distinct and good for different reasons.
But that's industry standard lol
They were just the only ones dumb enough to say it out loud.
bg3 has same shit
You can become Lich and kill people and rise them as minions. Or you can become litteraly walking swarm of locus and everything leave you and your army become only locue.
And there are 7 more options from that. Most probabl play as angel cus good. Yuck
I felt the same way, I really loved Solasta Crown of the Magister, sure it doesn't have the same big budget production but it is fun and has heart.
Imagine only liking one series. Real crpg chads are winning hard right now with plenty of choice, while you shitheads are flinging shit and not playing anything.
Its good, it's more autistic and requires more mentally. Combat becomes so over the top its funny. Every homie is swinging mass instakills and aoe spells that could melt whole kingdoms
it depends. do you like build autism? do you like OP mythic abilities? do you like companion that aren't all buttholes and doesn't exist solely so you frick them? than this the game for you my friend.
BG3 shat all over it (with mby exception of buildtism and better exp rewards for non-combat stuff)
Thnakfully owlcat arent big enough cucks to remove the slavery and drow from wotr or kingmaker. Still huge plot points about ex slaves and rape slaves in both games
so its either the one guy who took a sex change magic potion in WOTR or the literal black drag queen necromancer who talks about how it gets off to the screams of children in BG3
for me it felt like baldur's gate 3 in everything but name. it's really the only game that's got enough of a ridiculous power level that could top Throne of Bhaal.
You might want to ignore/patch the not very good Homm knockoff part though. I kind of liked it, even though it's not great.
the combat is 99% you rightclicking something and it popping immediately and 1% pausing to buff your guys so they can then right click and pop something bigger than the other thing
that's like 90% of every CRPG bro.
I know, im just answering the question, granted it' is particularly satisfying popping things in wotr with the way they dismember and ragdoll
If you want to play a modern turn based RPG thats actually good, then you want Wasteland 3. The only real criticism I have of it is that the world feels small and the expansions should've added more to the worldspace rather than just being mega-dungeons like Watcher's Keep in the BG2 expansion. If you liked Watcher's Keep though you'll probably like them.
WOTR to me feels way more like a true "next gen" cRPG than BG3 does. The reactivity of major story beats changing based on your choices is unprecedented.
it didnt go hard enough though,especially the rushed paths. I wanted to play as a lich after CH5 and see my impact on the world
What, the story beats in WotR are linear, in BG3 you have more branching paths and reactivity in Act 1 than in the entirety of both Pathfinder games put to gether
Delusional.
very slightly woker than bg3, but also has actual gameplay and character building unlike bg3
>slightly woker than BG3
>BG3 the game with gays forcing themselves on you every second
>black drag queens talking about jerking off to the screams of kids
>constant SEX SEX SEX IM SO KINKY BUTTPLUGS dialogue in serious scenes
>Just turned entire races like drow and tieflings into Black folk and making all other races hav vitiligo and other inclusive shit like dwarfism and disabilities
It's not actually more woke than BG3. It does have some typical diversity quota characters, but they aren't written nearly as obnoxiously and in-your-face as they are in BG3. Also WOTR has a classic male / female gender select, so that alone already makes it less woke than BG3 with its pronouns, gender-identity, body type bullshit in the character creator.
Thats what I meant, Comparing woke in WOTR to BG3 is like comparing some mild mannered gay guy to a full blown pride parade orgy where they're twerking on kids
I somehow don't even want to finish bg3 after checking out all these mods for pathfinder.
Anything good for kingmaker? Don't really want to play wotr since I'm waiting for the last dlc.
I doubt they will ever switch to that troony shit since it makes absolutely no sense in Russian just like in many other languages.
Funny how this whole shit just collapses when it comes to languages other than English.
>don't even want to finish bg3 after checking out all these mods for pathfinder
Lol wtf are you talking about? All of these mods are entirely quality of life improvements and rules modification only.
Yeah
RT also has female/male lol. even the alpha i played didn't have woke shit aside from the black lesbian psyker you can BLAM
yeah i did. which version? mine is 2.1.5r.935 from GOG free games
mine are all up to date
If you didn't like BG3 because it was too complex, you're gonna have a really bad time with Pathfinder games.
That said, pathfinder is more fun in my opinion.
>Mods don't work on the latest version.
frick this i am downgrading to the previous patch. I can't play without TT (base+rework) and Darkcodex now.
mine work, they are all updated. You are using Modfinder and downloading the github versions right anon?
>Be Lich
>Atheist PC, killed both the Vampire and Urgathoa's b***h
>Fully ascend (finally)
>Pillarbro tells me "Hey master, do you wanna piss off Pharasma even more ahah"
>Boy, do I?
>Start cycle of life-destroying project immediatly
>Eventually my ziggurat is attacked by Pharasmah's silver boys
>Whatever
>Kill everyone
>The last one curses me and begs Pharasmah to come spank me on my bony ass because he can't do it himself
>Am I about to slap another ho? Thank god undeads are immune to fatigue or my arm would get tired
>Just as it starts to happen Urgathoa intervenes
>"Nah", she says, "Lmao"
>Titblock Pharasmah
>Well frick me once
>Ask me to kill Pharasmah's servant on her behalf
>I'm about to let him go purely out of spite
>PC just kill him anyway without me having a say about it
Well frick me twice, I'm so disappointed. I'm pretty sure this is literally the end of the mythic quest too.
All cRPGs have been woke af, there's literally not a single one that doesn't have full blown gay shit shoved in your face. Pathfinder is no exception.
I wish a based japanese dev would have a crack at a cRPG game, there's been some popular recent LN/manga/anime work (Overlord, Goblin Slayer etc) so there must exist a reasonable fan base in Japan.
i don't recall arcanum having any gay shit, planescape torment either, but i imagine that might have some.
Fold your hope. The closest thing you can get from japan are dungeon crawler games.
Dragon's Dogma 2 anon.
>Japan makes crpg style jrpg
>Includes ga- sorry, yaoi and yuri options
>NOOOOOO POZZED POZZED POZZED
Or would you just go "it's okay when japan does it"?
man learning how to mod this game using .json and .jpb file is very hard. the documentation are not that good and don't go to deep into the various functions and one wrong line or comma at a place can crash the game. i wish the release some user-friendly mod tools
I have never played a Tiefling or any other race except Humans and half elfs
It's not good, and translating D&D to video game format doesn't work.
Till now its my number 1 crpg. Currently playing bg3 lets see if it manages to dethrone it.
Yeah, the story is good with a lot of different branching paths, the build autism is off the charts, the party members are quite ok.
>Playing as a Lich and encounter a NPC i don't like
>(Evil) I don't like you. Die!
i love being a unhinged psycho in this game after doing two goodie two shoe playthrough(Angel and legend)
>(Evil) I don't like you. Die!
wow great wriing
Let me guess, you "need" more?
I just remembered whenever I tried being evil and killing people a lot of the time they would just go to 1 HP then run away in some cutscene because the game wants to use them later for some dumb shit.
now that rarbg is dead, where can I find a torrent for the game?
>he only used rarbg
Gog
Or cs rin for faster updates
Thank u bois
freegogpcgames.
why was the goat and bug ascension rematch so easy compared to aleeru? they BOTH had less hp/buffs then her
Because the actual final boss is Areelu, that fight is just there for show
I was honestly expecting them to constantly dispell and summon bugswarms but I'll take it
IDK my gold dragon MC with 80 strength oneshot all 3 of them.
Kingmaker was significantly better.
WOTR has a LOT of flaws and one of them is that the companions (barring about three) are as bad as BG3s. Other issues include the world being a lot more boring and lacking cohesion than Kingmaker and the lategame enemies are HP blobs of demons that just make the fights annoying.
Best part about it is probably the main villain, an annoying to traverse but cool looking area in the Abyss and Regill for managing to do an amusing Lawful Evil hardass without being a general annoyance about his views.
Still okayish overall but I don't see myself replaying it like I know I will Kingmaker.
>without being a general annoyance about his views.
>will betray you if you act Chaotic enough
No. In fact the only way to get him to "betray you" aka tell you to fight him to the death upright in a fight is to be two or more of the following:
1) Be incompetent around a demon in his quest test.
2) Accept the boon of a demon lord outright.
3) Pick a chaotic dipshit mythic path.
And you get an extra pass on one of these if your character is a Hell Knight.
so basically he will betray me if i am Chaotic in some ways? good to know.
>be a demon-siding moron not once but twice
>shocked that the anti-demon lawtist doesn't side with you
so he is a general annoyance unless i act in a specific way according to his views. glad to know he is not above any of other companions.
so you play exclusively with mercs?
>doesn't get in the way pretty much ever even when you're doing things to piss him off
>is optional to recruit
>has an optional sidequest
>has a followup optional sidequest where he does judge you if you actively side with demons
But if you want to run a party with annoying homosexuals like Nenio, Sosiel and Seelah that interject into your every dialogue to tell you that you should be more of a homosexual like them that's your problem really.
>doesn't get in the way pretty much ever even when you're doing things to piss him off
that's pretty much every companion anon. only Sellah is the one who interject because she is a Paladin and paladin are the biggest moralgay in any table
>that's pretty much every companion anon.
lol Seelah does it frequently. Wenduag's every dialogue is her b***hing or praising you for taking an option, Daeran non-stop b***hes about angels, Ulfbrig about "fae" when you let him, Ember has her fricking moronic savior shit, Nenio her "experiments" and Greybor who goes on about muh professional muh pay. Don't even get me started on what an annoying homosexual Woljif is.
>Regillgays want a yesman
>writer's pet
>the guy who doesn't get on your case at all
lmao
All this tells me is that you homosexuals actually enjoy having companions be obnoxious interjection machines who won't shut the frick up and go away for a single second because the writer HAS to make you like and listen to their bullshit.
>because the writer HAS to make you like and listen to their bullshit
As opposed to your precious manlet that always BTFOs everyone he argues with, that never seethes except for one time (with the elf writer's pet lol), and that is consistently proven to be in the right even when he isn't becuase he's supposed to be le hecking badass hellknight?
>As opposed to your precious manlet that always BTFOs everyone he argues with
Except he doesn't. He argues with like two people total in the game and both are fricking morons, Galfrey and Seelah.
>that never seethes except for one time
He seethes if you side with demons, pick a chaotic mythic path, accept demon gifts, if you act moronic during his sidequests and if you go trickster (the only path where you have to convince him not to make him leave).
>and that is consistently proven to be in the right
Literally never happens. He just calls out an incompetent fricking moron with three failed Crusades behind her who sends you to the Abyss out of jealousy and a black "paladin" who has shit-tier takes on what constitutes Good.
Regill argues with every good aligned companion except for Ember, even evil and neutral ones, and npcs like Hulrun
>seethes if you side with demons, pick a chaotic mythic path, accept demon gifts, if you act moronic during his sidequests and if you go trickster
Not what I meant, he's simply displeased because you're not being a lawtard, but he never truly has a moment where he gets BTFO and all he can do is cope about it like most characters in this game do. The exception being Ember's quest where he seethes because demons start joining your party and all he can do is cope saying that he'll write a report about it, and even then, it's played for laughs
>(the only path where you have to convince him not to make him leave)
He never leaves on any path even if it's nonsensical like trickster or demon, his betrayal isn't automatic and depends on an imaginary point system
>Literally never happens. He just calls out an incompetent fricking moron with three failed Crusades behind her who sends you to the Abyss out of jealousy and a black "paladin" who has shit-tier takes on what constitutes Good
His entire questline is about him testing you and sacrificing his career, when it's fricking unnecessary, not only you can't point this out because it would admitting how terribly written the quest is, but if you cry about it to Regill afterwards the game makes YOU look bad for not honoring his sacrifice
You can't call him out on obvious things (like how he excuses his killing of wounded soldiers by saying that they're hellknights, but the game conveniently leaves out the option to say that he also killed crusaders that weren't working for him) and only focus on the fact that he's evil which he doesn't care about, and your good aligned companions do the same thing
If he was a woman Ganker would hate him and would recognize him for the writer's pet he is. Thankfully my brain hasn't been rotted by /misc/ so I can recognize shitty characters regardless of their gender
>If he was a woman Ganker would hate him and would recognize him for the writer's pet he is
nah, Ganker would simp for him hardcore and post about how they want to (hate)frick him or how they want him to step on their balls
>Saying this while this board is constantly seething about how many women are in positions of power
You're acting like 60% of PF threads aren't sickening simping for Camellia.
>60%
more like 20% that won't shut the frick up.
>60%
eh
Also Camellia is some random noblewoman, unlike Galfrey, Irabeth, Nocticula, Areelu, Iomedae who all have positions of power
and in any of those threads there will always be at least 1 person going like " she needs rape correction lol"
They'd be right
But the game doesn't let you rape correct them and turn them into sex slaves, so it's pozzed
if all the companion were Raceswapped Lann would be best girl and Arue will become best boy
>Regill argues with every good aligned companion except for Ember
I take it you were non-stop resting considering I never saw any of that.
>Not what I meant, he's simply displeased because you're not being a lawtard, but he never truly has a moment where he gets BTFO
Presumably because he barely interjects compared to every single other character, the best thing about him, and he doesn't get all prissy and emotional over being in the right.
The closest you get to him saying much is in the military council and it doesn't amount much more to shitting on potential units like the Sarkorians for already having lost one war and not needing them to lose another.
>when it's fricking unnecessary
The ending makes it pretty clear he was dying either way.
>You can't call him out on obvious things (like how he excuses his killing of wounded soldiers by saying that they're hellknights, but the game conveniently leaves out the option to say that he also killed crusaders that weren't working for him)
Pretty sure he has an entire dialogue about that in the gargoyle caves when you first meet him and you can tell him to frick off and die based solely on that.
>If he was a woman
Who gives a shit.
>Thankfully my brain hasn't been rotted by /misc/
No you clearly managed that all on your own.
>nooooo people shouldn't voice their opinion ahhhhhhh Black personman i am going insane
just say that you want a robot you just dick suck and agrees with all your descisions(which Regill doesn't)
People like you are why we get BG3-tier writing.
>glad to know he is not above any of other companions.
I can tell you're seething that people use him as a contrast to point out how annoying all the shit companions are.
>When you're a writer's pet mary sue but you're not a w*man so you can get away with it
>the only way to get him to "betray you" aka tell you to fight him to the death upright in a fight
That's what he does as part of his (nonsensical) sacrifice
His actual betrayal is him attacking you alongside the entire hellknight outpost and some devils
If I go demon and accept the profane gift, when should I legend to not make regill mad at me?
What do you mean "when" you make the choice at the beginning of act 5, you don't get to pick
Also lol Regill cries about you getting rid of your powers
Go full legend before you go for the final judgement just so you don't have the point against you.
Provided you pass the check(s) at the beginning of the trial, you should have 1 point against you if you took the gift. Did you pass the hellknight test perfectly or as close to it during Act 3?
Yep. Regil started being very nice to me, so I don't want to make him mad
You should be fine then. The only other possible point you could get is asking Baphomet about an alliance when you meet him at the end of Act 4.
You should also get negative points if you have the Hellknight or Signifier class, or if you took on Yaker as an advisor (the wiki says this one is broken, so ymmv).
I liked it, I preferred kingmakers overall story but WOTR is still entertaining and worth a play. I would say it’s actually more progressively loaded than bg3 especially when it comes to circle jerking lesbians.
>Demon n Devil got paths
>No Daemon path
NE outsiders always getting fricked
Why the frick would you want a Daemon path? Being a Daemon is one the worst fates in the known universe, so bad that Pharasma lets emissaries from the Abyss and Hell offer judged souls a chance to accept one or the other as an alternative.
>Lawtards woke up
Fun is over
Yes, but the devs are russian pig dogs and they tried sneaking in malware with a game update.
Owlcat were doubly stupid for pulling this because schizos will never shut about it ever again
give tips for a fricking moron for kingmaker.
The game gets going fully after you've killed the Stag King and get done with the Sycamore more or less.
But Kingdom on Casual and add in that one kingdom cheating mod because the curse timer stuff is still atrocious once you get near the end of the last timer.
Look up how to get Jubilost or you've got a decent chance of missing him iirc.
All companions except for Octavia & Regongar are fine, those two suck balls and never get any better so don't feel like you have to go and recruit them. (people weren't kidding with them being cucks either)
Otherwise just have fun. I enjoyed Magus -> Sword Saint personally.
whats the mod?
Kingdom Resolution.
Bag of Tricks also works but is a bit more limited.
I think ill try it without the mod, seems like its dated and can break shit and id never know.
Also I mean casual. Don't put Kingdom on automatic or you'll lose out on secret stuff.
Make love, not war, Owlbros
https://twitter.com/OwlcatGames/status/1687493648030531585
why a wolf instead of a Owlcat, are they trying to say that we are dogfrickers?
Yes
A white woman drew it
Should have been a dragon than. preferably a golden one
>Enter pathfinder thread
>80% of discussion is romance homosexualry
And those "people" have audacity to say that they don't like BG3 lmao.
Larian isn't some underground tumblr homosexual conspiracy mouthpiece studio, it's just a studio that did its homework figuring out what exactly would CRPG audience want in their games. They studied (you), and they studied (you) good, then they made exactly what (you) are supposed to like.
Little did they know about target audience also being humongous autofellating contrarians who now ackshully don't like it lol.
the hell are you talking about? we are just discussing how Regill is actually a good guy and Seelah is a Chaotic Evil scum who stole a helmet once
>becoming a fricking skeleton to be immortal
>when basically every mythic path already makes you ageless
You got scammed my buddy.
Lich is the dream powertrip for midwit Golarion evil wizards since The Whispering Tyrant is the single most powerful guy kicking around the place.
Friendly reminder that you're stronger than him by the end of the game
>They studied (you), and they studied (you) good, then they made exactly what (you) are supposed to like.
Let's see, BG 3... it has no
>redeemable wholesome succubus
>oviposition for the swarmgay
>(real) male dragon on female
>(real) female dragon on male
>angel/balor redeeming/corrupting with their mighty wiener
>wolf knot
>impregnation/pregnancy
>hot, feminine tiefling(s) with positive (lewd, playful, sweet etc.) personalities
>cute/tsundere monster girls
>psychopathic yanderes to murderhobo with
>oyakodon
>a ton more things
They didn't study shit, anon. Stop writing fanfictions in your head.
>cute/tsundere monster girls
and who the frick in WOTR is a "cute/tsundere monster girl"?
If you DARE to fricking say it's Wenduag I'm gonna fricking materialize right behind you and break your fingers first, then your arms and then your neck
Wenduag. alirght tough guy dimension door to my house right now
alright homosexual you asked for it
better fricking keep your back stuck to the wall and not look behind you
okey dokey. better come prepared queer because i am gonna serve you a assfricking you will never forget after i buff up
Do you think the overlord writer played WotR? It's almost a 1:1 comparison with every boss fight in this game
does he have a social media account? i can ask him
Anon, the first overlord season came out before this game, and before that the web and light novel already had that
I know, that's why it's kinda funny he predicted the whole prebuffing thing from pathfinder
>WoTR invented D&D 3.5
I am behind 7 greater invisibilities and concealments, you'll never see me coming even with foresight and true seeing, chump
Nocticula is basically tsundere for Ember
>mindbroken by cutely tsundere Wendu
Go back Darker
>Darker
?
Darker Grey, the source of all cute Wendu art
Most of the things you mentioned are literal shitposts from this shithole
and? they studied nothing than if they wanted to get Owlgay to play their games
>>wolf knot
Does the game have gay bear sex? Surely teh game lets you frick the girls as an animal if you're a druid yourself?
I’m enjoying it so far, but out of principle I pirate any game that pulls the “identity” and “body type” nonsense in the character creators. Especially when it’s virtue signaling so hard that it makes the creator difficult to use - they made the HECKIN VALID decision to jumble all the male and female voices together in random order, so I have to listen to every “voice 1, 2, 3” etc. to find out which ones are fricking male and female and then jump from 1 to 3 to 7 to compare the male ones since it would be PROBLEMATIC to group voices separately by sex.
So yeah, could’ve gotten an easy $60 from me but they made it clear they are hostile to normalcy. Fun game though, and I don’t mind getting it for free without any guilt.
Yeah, its annoying as frick, id rather have body type 1 and 2 over everything just mashed together
How are the companions, they any good? is the vampire guy similar to Daeran that his homosexualry is a coping mechanism and can you frick the Succubus girl that hangs around the black guy
So far they’re good, personalities are definitely turned up to 11 to establish them quickly. Laezel is mega pushy and domineering, demands you rescue her from a cage and the cage gives you the option to say “say please” which is hella funny. Astarion is stuck up and intolerable but in a rich, wienery white boy way which is funny. Darkheart is openly racist against Laezel, which is cool that they didn’t try to sanitize the racial prejudices that are key in DnD. So far, so good. But I’m sure there’s gonna be loads of gay degeneracy.
Lol Astarion isn't even comparable to Daeran. i have yet to see a good companion or a good romance except maybe Shadowheart
>They studied (you)
>the same studio that was flabbergasted it has 99% male audience
yeah, sure
You like spending 10 minutes buffing pre fights?
The combat is way too fricking easy in it, especially if you turn turn based mode off
Pozzed buff spamming dogshit
After I played BG3 I realised that I liked WOTR A LOT more, but that's more on BG3 being written for women and trannoids whose perception of DnD comes from Critical Role
However, my main gripe with WOTR is that it's literally too damn big. At the start of Act 3 I was going "this is great! After I'm done with this run, I'm gonna do a run as a Lich, and then as an Aeon and then maybe as a Swarm!", but then by the middle of Act 5 I was so done with the game and just wanted to see the ending and was abusing the shit out of Toybox just so the game could fricking end faster. I don't think I'm gonna go for a new playthrough in any near foreseeable future, the though of going through the whole fricking game all over again just to see it unfold in a slightly different way than before already feels fricking exhausting
*the thought of
Same more or less. Weirdly I think i'll replay Kingmaker and I don't expect it'll be all that different from my last playthrough.
you don't want to play any DLC other than the Last Sarkorian anyway and it's optional. just buy the game and get a playthrough done so you can enjoy the game you freak
or pirate it, like i give a shit, just stop being a moron it's been 2 years ffs
Pathinder 3: Jade Regent will give a orc bloodrager and a Elf ranger romance. trust the plan anon
>Elf ranger romance
Both games already have elf romance, why do you care?
>half-elf
Mutts don't count.
>Orc bloodrager female
>Dwarf paladin male
>Elf ranger female
>Damphir duelist female
>Human male cleric
>(You)
One man can only dream
I told Nenio to do a flip at the end of her quest
And I enjoyed it
Can I save Hand of the Inheritor as an Aeon? I saved the aasimars, killed that demon noble and told the brothel lady to frick off when he asked, but then as soon as he finds out about my powers he just goes away.
Felt really bad having to kill him, even though I found his heart witch I thought would help me save him.
Dude was a bro, shame it had to end that way
Blame dragons for beind humiegays. They made the dragonborn from scratch.
Just finished the Enigma yesterday and holy fricking shit, what a horrible place attached to an equally horrible companion, it took me almost 4 hours to finish it because of the garbage """"""puzzles"""""". Doesn't help it's attached to the fox, witch I also hate
hope you made the right choice at the end of the quest
>put effort into texturing only one single area aside from the Midnight Isles
>it's a fricking shithole puzzle place attached to one of the top three worst characters in the game
Imagine Bg3's cringy writing but 10 times worse.
Competent game mechanic but awful writing. Almost every character is Reddit tier like MC from Forspoken. Theres zero building demons as scary or competent force as they are portrayed as Power Rangers villains and mobs. I would rather use a porn game writer to replace their lore writer and you would experience less cringe when reading.
>Almost every character is Reddit tier like MC from Forspoken.
completely false. only Seelah and Nenio does that.
And Woljif, Ember, Sosiel, Finnean and sometimes even Daeran.
>Look at these characters I dislike!
>They're all... le reddit!
Did you know that reddit loves Regill? Dude is a walking redditor lol
Woljif is a literal redditor trying, and failing, to emulate Jan Jansen from BG2. Incredibly obnoxious non-sequiturs all the time.
Ember's entire storyline is that she's a special snowflake atheist who will redeem demons.
Sosiel's entire character is fujohomosexualry out the ass. Literally soulless and made for some jagoff to schlick to.
They are all incredibly reddit.
wowsers watch out lads we got a real reddit expert over here
The only one I can sort of give you a free pass with is Woljif, and even then he's still one of the best characters in the game with the best questline
Neither Ember nor Sosiel are "reddit"
What the frick is reddit about a saint that wants to forgive everyone? Let me guess, she should be going deus vult and should want to kill every non white male?
And don't get me started on Sosiel, his romance is 100% optional and has absolutely nothing to do with his main conflict, plus the dude is so boring literally no one likes him, not even redditors
>What the frick is reddit about a saint that wants to forgive everyone?
The fact that she's in a setting where Evil is not only a metaphysical reality but takes actual shape.
It is and remains fricking moronic and makes the setting all the more juvenile for it.
The most cringe scene in the entire game is when you take Ember to Nocticula and Areelu.
>Let me guess, she should be going deus vult and should want to kill every non white male
You sound like you really don't have any opinions of your own and just regurgitate whatever your discord clique think you ought to think. "Huh you don't like my redditshit writing? Guess you're a CHUD from POL with X opinions and Y hates". Subliterate frickwit.
>And don't get me started on Sosiel, his romance is 100% optiona and has absolutely nothing to do with his main conflict
He doesn't have a conflict. The gay's a paper cutout strictly for fujos. Same with his nothing character of a brother.
>The fact that she's in a setting where Evil is not only a metaphysical reality but takes actual shape
Yes, that's the point, she believes that even literal demons can change (and they can) there is nothing reddit about it other than your edgy ass not liking it
And no, no b***hing about divine intervention here, outsiders can change their alignment on their own, good and bad
>He doesn't have a conflict
Go figure the /misc/tard doesn't pay attention to such an obvious "will Sosiel remain good or will he get mindbroken by war" arc
>The gay's a paper cutout strictly for fujos
Holy shit, imagine actually thinking this, the fujo bait is Daeran
>Yes, that's the point
Cringe is the point. Right.
>she believes that even literal demons can change (and they can) there is nothing reddit about it
It's literally the most stereotypical reddit /rpg/ subversion you could ever adopt. Pseud homosexuals who skimmed a longplay of PS:T and suddenly it's all they can think of.
>Go figure the /misc/tard doesn't pay attention to such an obvious "will Sosiel remain good or will he get mindbroken by war" arc
>Holy shit, imagine actually thinking this
Yeah imagine the "teehee goodboy" character wasn't written by and for fujos when the closest thing he has to an arc is how wide his mouth is open for dick.
Oh and let's not forget that the "saint" is a squegee sounding feel-sorry-for-meee character to boot who can't formulate a solid opinion on anything beyond the cringy demons-r-people-too atheism that ignores it's a god-being backing her.
>that ignores it's a god-being backing her
I love it when morons repeat this, they legit don't know that even Soot disagrees with Ember, you morons show your speedreading on your own
Also, Andoletta is a demigod, not a goddess
And the Mongrel dude
you mean Lann "bring me the thiefling and the rope" Nethholm?
>DUDE HE MADE LE BAD JOKE HE'S LE REDDIT
Does pic related get a free pass or is being from a 2009 game not enough?
Maybe he wasn't reddit, but he was Marvel quip tier cringy character. Minsc was an actual good comic relief who didn't try to "wink at the player audience when doing a pun"
I hate Larian man, they mindbroke you homosexuals and thanks to them now you cry every time a character makes a joke because it gives you DOS2 flashbacks
>I hate Larian man
literally why though? Divinity has been fantastic for decades, well with the exception of divinity 2.
>Minsc was an actual good comic relief
Dude, Minsc was fine in BG1, but absolutely insufferable in BG2. Jan Jansen is the one who is genuinely funny, because he is a normal guy who enjoys pretending to be a schizo and fricking with everyone.
He's literally a low iq moron and bullied by party members for being dumb. It only makes sense for him to have marvel tier dialogue. The problem with recent CRPGs are 90% of the dialogue being dumbed down to appeal to the casual audience.
Its a fun game with alot of build diversity. I thought Kingmaker was fun, but seeing how much shit they added to wotr made me get it.
when does Trickster get good. i am feeling really bored in act 3
It gets good once you get the crit memes, so rush Areelu's lab
This is why you don't play CRPGs, go tabletop
digital games just inflate every stat
This is the first enemy in the game in the easiest difficulty
>92
That's nothing. His AC is even higher in combat thanks to crane style.
I like stacking natural armor so that's a good thing
>reached house at the end of time yesterday
>it can't be that bad, I managed to trough the game on normal as a newbie without many hiccups
>mfw
I'm not even that far in, and I'm already pondering lowering the difficulty. This sucks.
WHERE CAN I GET PLATE ARMOR?
I'M SO SICK OF FRONTLINING IN CHAINMAIL
WHAT'S THE POINT IN HEAVY ARMOR PROFICIENCY IF NOBODY DROPS IT? I EVEN KILLED THE DROW PALADIN IN THE GOBLIN CAMP AND SHE WAS WEARING LEATHER ARMOR?????
You sure you're not talking aboug BG3? This game is filled with plate armor
It's great.
But BG3 is great too, so if you didn't like it, maybe RPGs are not your genre?
RPGs are not and never will be homosexualry simulators.
Well it's based on Pathfinder, so no. Still, not like basing something on 5e is any better.
Anyone who plays 5e or 3.PFshit is a homosexual.
>Dragonborn were bred to be dragon slaves but they fricked off and dislike dragons because of that
>Dragons made kobolds afterwards
They literally did.
>post is about armor
>quote is about weapons
hmm
>I didn't like BG3
Where did CRPGs go wrong? How did we get from masterpieces like planescape torment to this?
>Noooo not the genki barbarian tomboy!
Feel free to go cry about it on BG3 threads
Because you didn't become a multibillionaire and save CRPGs.
Romance is what everyone plays CRPGs for these days and also for build min/maxing autism. The official surveys with romance queries have higher response than any gameplay or story related ones. Representation has somehow become important, Story takes the backseat and dialogues are made very simple and relatable in tone with modern everyday conversations.
>The official surveys with romance queries have higher response than any gameplay or story related ones
Source?
My uncle works in larian.
I mean in Larian's case they're a bunch of coomers, every fricking companion goes out of their way to try to frick you, so it wouldn't surprise me
she cute
Youd have a point if bg3 is the only crpg on the market. Theres at least 10 different crpgs you could chose from that focus on different things
Worldcrawl mod for first playthrough Y/N?
>le big overhaul mod for first playthrough
No, always no, no matter the game
frick no. use Tabletop and Darkcodex for it if you desperately want to do it
cam won
>Can't cook
>Can't clean
>Would proably eat and kill her own child, in that order
Why do people want to wife her up so much?
she tries her best!
It's vastly better at everything but muh graffix muh voice acting
Even better at evil psychotic b***h romance
And there's TB mode by default if you want
Commissioning more Ember porn. Have a WIP.
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>no swarm vore
Did the previous ones get finished swarmgay? Can I see?
can someone refer me to some OP strats/builds and other ways to break the game near the beginning
TB mode in WotR is basically cheating and RTwP in unplayable on hardest difficulties.
The enemies don't have ai and can't use any of WoTR combat mechanics in TB. You can attack, sidestep - enemy can't. You can avoid attack of opportunities by toggling skill - enemy can't. Also
>buffing
>buffing
>buffing
If you didn't like BG3 you will hate WotR.
Skill issue
I was so let down when I discovered there was no corrupted Arue romance when I was already deep into a Demon playthrough. As the lore says, demons can't feel love, so I thought the "romance" would've been along the lines of sadomasochism with Arue being kept as the mc's succubus pet or something. Oh well
should i give kingmaker another try or start wotr?
didn't even dislike it besides kingdom management sort of but i got distracted doing other things
do it for miri
She is so cute. Kingmaker is a crime against humanity for making the 2 best girls non romanceable. They could have even made her a dyke, it would have been better
>They could have even made her a dyke
don't you dare say something like that EVER again
linzi is a dyke
I am like 90% sure that pathfinder 3 will have a lesbian only character. Kingmaker has only strait/bisexual, and wotr had one gay on top of that. It just makes sense
as it should be
good. can't wait to dick her down with wiener
>can't wait to dick
A succubus/demoness would make you suffer unimaginable tortures with not guarantee of any pleasure what so ever. Let alone that you get to frick her.
this is literally evil arue
tsmt i can't believe she drained my levels
No it will copy BG3 and have polygamous homosexual squiddBlack folk
>Can make your own custom waifu that is a million times cuter than the companions
>It's actually a squid (who looks and talks like a man)
I hate it
Kingmaker is pretty good, give it another shot if you liked the exploration. Also, you can get some mod to make it so you can never fail during kingdom management, there is no shame in that.
any good class recommendations for someone still pretty new to CRPGs?
i think i was playing some sort of sorcerer sword-wielder hybrid, i can't remember the name of it.
also is turn-based mode fine?
>any good class recommendations for someone still pretty new to CRPGs?
That depends on what you like, it sounds like you were playing a magus which is a fighter that can cast spells, they're pretty powerful. One of the Magus sub classes, Sword Saint, is arguably one of the most powerful martial classes in the game.
Turn based is ok, but some fights become tedious so I switch to real time when I have to fight like 15 goblins or something. Harder fughts are much more manageable in turn based.
the danger of playing wotr is that the gameplay improvements are so massive that it's hard to go back
i do believe the story and characters of kingmaker are worth it especially if you got the game in some kind of bundle
Hello thread, I love Arueshalae. That is all. Have a nice day.
me too bro, me too
Now, that's a fine pic, but do you know what i really want? I want to play an Aeon. I want to play an Aeon so i can summon Arueshalae and finally judge her for her crimes and have her finally answer for all she did. I want to punish her for overriding the chain of command by pushing all my buttons without my consent. I want to punish her for breaking and entering, for she wormed into my brain and refuses to leave. I want to punish her for arson, as she has started a blaze in my soul that no amount of firefighting shall extinguish. I want to punish her for theft, as she stole my heart from chest and refuses to give it back. I want to punish her for murder, for she forever killed my need to try the other romances. And still, murder is too kind a word, for she truly genocided all the other possible timeless of my Wrath of the Righteous games -- the murderous Camellia, the stern Galfrey, the cute bug Wendaug, all of them are now like specks of stardust in front of the sun, outshined by Arue without any possible competition. Genocide of these untold timelines it shall be, and for those heinous crimes, there can be only one fitting punishment. I condemn her to be loved. I condemn her to be happy. I condemn her to find redemption and peace. And, the Monad and Desna willing, i shall execute her sentence myself.
Changed my mind about Lawchads. You're alright.
If anyone ever wonders why lawtists needs to be purged, show them that post.
They are control freaks wishing to enact their depraved ideas of "order" onto others. They are the kind of socio/psychopaths that want to be "in the right" on top of satisfying their need for blood and control.
Remember anons, around lawfulgays never rest.
I love Jerribeth!
>no futa with bigger wiener than you romance option
at least I can frick a spider
Arueshalae is what you are looking with.
TOTAL NENIO DEATH!
Kill Nenio. Behead Nenio. Rape Nenio. Roundhouse kick Nenio into the concrete. Slam dunk Nenio into the trashcan. Crucify Nenio. Defecate in a Nenios food. Teleport Nenio into the sun. Stir fry Nenio in a wok. Toss Nenio into a active volcano. Urinate into a Nenios encyclopedia golarionatica. Judo throw Nenio into a wood chipper. Twist Nenios head off. Report Nenio to the Order of the Pyre. Karate chop Nenio in half. Curb stomp pregnant Nenio. Trap Nenio in quicksand. Crush Nenio in the trash compactor. Liquefy Nenio in a acid Pit. Eat Nenio out. Dissect Nenio. Exterminate Nenio in the Cloudkill Gas chamber. Stomp Nenios skull with steel toed boots (+4 save against going prone). Cremate Nenio in the oven. Lobotomize Nenio. Mandatory births for Nenio. Throw Nenio in rift of ruin, Grind Nenio in the garbage disposal. Drown Nenio in ink. Vaporize Nenio with a Hellfire ray. Kick Nenio down the stairs. Feed Nenio to Wenduag. Slice Nenio with a Elven curve blade.
>Rape Nenio
Wish I could
Just had my Wisdom teeth removed. Any way to counter this Wis debuff?
get a headband of +4 Wis.
Where's the DLC bros... it's taking too long..
Pointless to release it now when bg 3 is out and starfield is releasing soon
There's not much overlap between people wanting to play the Citadel DLC and see Arue's wedding, and those interested in new games.
They will not bring many new people with a DLC that expands upon the game's interactions, characters etc. Such DLCs are for fans.
Are you one of those morons that cant understand that people can like more than one series from the same genre? I love both games, but id rather play the new one, than dlc for the other one
>Such DLCs are for fans.
Learn to read, homosexual.
That was the whole point. A DLC like Citadel DLC is for people who are already fans, so you literally don't count in this debate because you will want to buy/play it.
That's why release of such DLC doesn't conflict too much with releases of newer games. If they were releasing a new game that would be a different story.
Yes, i will play it in 2 or 3 months when im done with bg 3 and/or starfield if it releases by that time. My point is people are busy playing other shit and wont buy the dlc now, hence why they're not releasing it yet
Starfield is on another league, it's irrelevant
I personally prefer Kingmaker.
One of the few saving graces of KM is the twins.
WotR does nearly everything else better than KM, but the DLC twins still shit on all romance options.
I gave you that pic and I stand by what I said, I prefer demon pussy
arue is so fricking boring though
"oh woe is me i am a demon but now i am good"
fricking yawn, give me something that hasn't been done a million times
Name a million games where this happens.
I agree with the anon.
Arue is not bad but she has a ton of unrealized potential.
I'm sorry that you didn't get your evil succubus to fulfill your I can fix her fetish
>talk about Arue's unrealized potential
>anon immediately thinks it has to be sex with evil Arue
Anon, please... I can't exactly blame you, given most anons around, but Arue is a tad underdeveloped.
She should have had a lot more nuance to her. Her presence should have been a lot more pronounced, as you don't just forget all forms of mannerism, habits, quirks and more just because you went through an incomplete redemption.
She acts like a worried puppy for most of her scenes, which is fine, but she basically has nothing interesting to say outside of "oh woe is me" as
said.
I wanted to see her get back onto her feet, turn her past into her strength, regain her former confidence which she had to have plenty of and come to terms with the past to the point she doesn't fear being playful, carefree, and even a bit lewd if KC plays his cards right. I wanted to see her take the initiative at times and pounce the KC, such as surprise visit him in the bedroom and pounce him, or playfully tug on his wrist with her tail while no one is looking.
Just something to make them look like she's again enjoying her life and their relationship as she doesn't have to fear hurting anyone by being close to them.
So yes, feel free to fight me for saying that Arue as a character is underutilized.
Frick Owlkeks for not giving us the origins and having KC be one of the children Arue saved in the best.
>regain her former confidence which she had to have plenty of and come to terms with the past
Good thing that already happens
The rest is your fanfic because you want the game to be a dating sim, we've been over this
>oh, you want more because the characters has a handful of scenes? go write a fanfic, VNgay
I only gave a few examples of what they could have added. Giving more presence to characters and getting to know more about them after traveling with them for months is part of being on an adventure which is one of the point of DnD/Pathfinder games.
Go lick owlkek writers' boots, you bumbling buffoon.
Nothing wrong with that, particularly after a character's questline ends which is presumably what DLC 6 is going to do. But you specifically quoted your dating sim checklist of things you want because otherwise she's wasted potential, which is absolutely moronic
She already does all that, including being affectionate which is something you clearly get off to, go ahead and watch how she (literally) can't get her hands off you or how she not so subtly tells you she's going to frick the shit out of you when you ask her what she'll do after the war
>She already does all that
The thing is that she she doesn't.
She doesn't regain her former confidence and is still weighted down by her past to some extent.
While she does change her tune, she doesn't become actually become happier and more playful. She retains her slightly melancholic approach which makes the fact she's still not fully over everything pretty obvious.
All that changes in the end is that she gets over the dream issue and that table of hers and that's it.
Granted it's subjective what kind of story feels better, but for me seeing her actually overcome her past is a better closure than remaining as we see her in the game.
She literally is, that's the entire point of killing the nightmares, it's as subtle as a kick in the balls, she even spells it out for you
>30+ AC Mobs
> Bosses with immunity to every element under the sun save one or two
> Muh big numbers
The only thing WotR does better is having a slightly less obnoxious tacked-on game mode.
And even that virtue is diminished when you realize that you have the option to fully automate kingdom management.
> Muh romances
Frick off lower lifeform.
You are the reason CRPGs like Baldur's Gate 3 exist.
>>30+ AC Mobs
What difficulty did you play in Kingmaker? Story?
I liked it more than BG3 so far, but I enjoy build autism. WOTR also has a million quality of life features I wish BG3 had. I'll list some.
>Changing party members is much easier, just click on the dudes whenever you leave town. No need to go and do a short dialogue to kick someone out and get another.
>Inventory has tabs to separate by type.
>Inventory/encumberance is shares between party members, less micromanaging individual inventories.
>When leaving an area, a window with all discovered loot opens so you spend less time digging through corpses.
>Both games let you lock the minimap to face north but WOTR has a much clearer indication of where you're pointed.
>Can create a formation for party members and manuever them more easily.
>You can cast a spell with one character and switch to another without waiting for casting to finish.
>More detailed tooltips.
>DC of checks is shown before you try it.
and many more
>Changing party members is much easier, just click on the dudes whenever you leave town. No need to go and do a short dialogue to kick someone out and get another
This and the fact that the game doesnt automatically use the character with highest ability score during checks are currently my biggest pet peeves with this game
Yeah, I actually expected that little "change party member" button in the left hand corner would allow you to use other party members for appropriate checks or responses but it just lets them move around during dialogue, missed opportunity. There's also the fact of BG3 companions being able to do dialogue on their own. Great idea but annoying if you're not a melee class because you want your PC on the frontlines to trigger dialogues which sucks for wizards who will often start combat at the front. Forgot 2 big ones as well.
>Customizable difficulty
>Can customize the HUD colors for all indicators in WOTR. I'm color blind and telling a used spell slot from an unused spell slot in BG3 is fricking hard. Ehy are they both similar shades of light blue? Give me like red or something for spent slots.
I presume some of them were done for """immersion""", but it's stupid that they didn't even gave us the option, such as for swapping party members.
The rest could in theory be fixed/added later or through mods, but I wouldn't count on it.
I'm hoping to see some good mods for this stuff along the lines of Toybox/Table Top Tweaks for WOTR because after my 2nd playthrough those really made messing around in the game a lot more fun
RTwP never worked well, as you would have known if you had played any game using it.
There is a reason Kingmaker only took off after they added turn-based.
Owlcat's pathfinding in real-time is also even worse than the one in BG1, which is quite an achievement.
The only time you want to switch to RTwP is if an encounter is so trivial you just want to auto-attack (never happens except at the lowest possible difficulty) or if you want to exploit the broken RTwP in order to break some encounters at the higher difficulties.