>don't understand why this wasn't green/blue
This is the feeling I had. I use it more to jump up on big monsters weak point than actually doing tanking or wrecking stuff like a warrior would. The meister quest reward even alludes to it being paladin like but that couldn't be farther from the truth. It's way more bursty and hop in hop out like a thief than anything like a paladin.
>spearhand gets the more fitting green/blue, giving another green vocation >clears up a spot for MK to exist in some form >add a new red/yellow vocation to replace assassin as the non-magic hybrid
Really all I wanted in terms of new vocations
You still have it but you cant buff it without books or mage pawn( dlc should have skills like master unlocks to fix the lack of mystic knight to fighter)
I'm playing it right now whilst I max them out all the vocations and this one feels the most fricking busted. >lets just make the vocation skill let the player completely freeze every enemy so they can get the super strong heavy attack instakill move out
it's fricking moronic and makes every fight that isn't a large monster boring
Summon clone, throw some pocket sand around and buff your pawn. Repeat as needed
If there's a cliff around you can do some will e coyote shit with the fake floor skill
You know all the webms in the DD threads over the years with silly shit like enemies jumping over cliffs trying to attack you? You do things like that, but intentionally. Class is very fun once you actually unlock skills, so just hire a bunch of aggressive damage pawns and kill easier targets at first until you get skills.
>Fighter
Good all rounder but a higher skill ceiling than most so people won't really get the most out of it because initial impressions are kinda meh >Archer
Solid damage and fast from afar. Relies on weak point exploits on constantly moving targets and special arrows for different attack skills. >Thief
Fast murder hobo. Damage output is pretty insane, but squishy as hell. Glass canon melee fighter. >Mage
Support heavy magic user. Damn near essential to have in your party for a lot of the game until other vocations with healing options open up. >Sorcerer
Slow as Christmas to cast and doesn't really get very strong until the ass end of maxing out the vocation. Once there, they are kings of AoE attacks, but slow as hell and squishy. >Warrior
Big hits that melt health bars. Slow start to swinging, but good timing has them being pretty damn fast infinite combo vocation that just laughs off staggering effects. Charging out the ass here though. >Mystic Spearhand
Fast, shield survivability, and closes distance well. Damage output is on the low end of the scale though. Probably the weakest outright melee class in the game but is fast. >Magick Archer
Absolutely zero close range options, but outside of that it will be the best all round damage dealer in the game with fire and forget it spells, ricochet Hunter destroying cavern/indoor enemies, and weakness exploits AND weakspots exploits aplenty. The only enemy they struggle a bit on are golems. >Trickster
The most situation dependent vocation. The most pawn dependent vocation. The vocation that struggles on every boss fight. >Warfarer
Neat idea, but kinda shit execution. Can't use any Meister arts, can only use three skills, and it is worse at everything it mimics. In a game so focused on party composition, this vocation comes off as pretty much useless.
This. I think my thief pawn has died a grand total of twice in my playthrough. One from being the last man standing vs a Drake and another from falling. 3 theif pawns with player being mage support is fricking hilarious.
>Slow as Christmas to cast
Do you not use quickcast?
Also, a pawn with surgeon means you can have a stronger party for upfront damage and heal just as much as a mage.
Warfarer would make every other class obsolete once you get it if it worked the way you wanted it to. Also Trickster does well in most humanoid boss fights - ogres, cyclops and especially Dullahan.
Warfarer+Trickster is the secret sauce and will probably be great if we get a BBI style expansion.
>Warfarer+Trickster is the secret sauce
Except you literally can't use it
The point of a trickster warfarer should be to use the complex tank/distraction abilities to do setup for another vocation, but switching weapons deletes the trickster setup
All you can use it for is drawing aggro to yourself, quickswapping to cast the singular pawn buff skill, or deciding on a whim to hard commit to trickster for a fight despite it being the worst option available to you in any warfarer setup
Nevermind the lack of skill slots making most of trickster's skills even shittier than they already are
>Fighter
Is great for main character larping and "I'll protect everyone!" protagonist shit. Initial impressions are meh because it's Tanking: The Experience. And if you're bad at managing your inventory or still inexperienced then you're probably always this Very Heavy fatfrick getting gassed every 9 steps you take. Very straightforward and stable it just isn't flashy enough for the anime/Captain America/Vindictus fans.
All of my pawns are fatfricks. But no like half an hour ago I literally learned that I don't need to carry around multiple camping packs so that...that helped a lot.
Oddly enough, I went through a whole playthrough camping out a ton and never got raided once. On the other hand I also never had an ox cart trip that was not attacked and destroyed. Also "ox carts never travel at night" is pure horseshit because that is when I was always attacked while riding one.
I know, but us destroying it was rare. Usually the cyclopes, ogre, or minotaur just flattened it. Got dive bombed by griffins a few times. The couple of occasions we destroyed it was when goblins were wailing on it and a mage pawn hit them with fire spray destroying the cart.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I hopped on one of those fancy oxcarts and halfway through the driver telling me to frick off, a griffin landed on it and exploded the whole wagon
>Tanking
Nah, that's what I mean by having a high skill ceiling. A fighter CAN tank, but reflecting and punishing is when they shine. Reflect to Tusk Toss to Down crack fricks up medium opponents. Shield spin breaks through a swarm and leaves them open for punishment. It's a technical as hell vocation that is fantastic if you learn the intricacies, but I acknowledge most won't bother when they get similar results with much easier to learn vocations.
Fighter has a lot of overlooked skills. For example, Cloudward Slash is great against bosses and good against grounded small enemies, but most only see it as an anti harpy tool. I would also love to know what % of players know that finishers exist.
Most people probably overlook the frick out of the Core Skills of most classes as well as the dynamics of the grabbing mechanics, they're so deeply embedded into the first game having mostly useless normal attacks and just spamming the slotted Skills that they don't see anything else. The sort of shit you can do with R2 are fricking amazing.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's probably why people think warfarer is shit. Slapping fighter's core skills on a ranged class or trickster is well worth a skill slot.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
The basic attack for warriors when you get the chain combo down is disgustingly overpowered but people just keep on charging.
For fighter, stuff that was active skills are just part of the basic moveset this time around.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
probably scrapped, like obviously a lot in this game
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
meant for
How do I trigger the phantom oxcart quest? I've been waiting in west vernsworth oxcart station where I'm supposed to overhear NPCs talking about it but there's not even any NPCs here
>thief >squishy >glass cannon
U wot m8? Thief has Formless Feint. They literally cannot die. Blades of the Pyre does no dmg during Formless Feint. Thief is the strongest class befause of this. You can just solo the entire game, no pawns needed anymore. Glass cannon, kek, what a moron
>Good all rounder but a higher skill ceiling than most so people won't really get the most out of it because initial impressions are kinda meh
This guy gets it. Fighter is awesome. >Fast, shield survivability, and closes distance well. Damage output is on the low end of the scale though. Probably the weakest outright melee class in the game but is fast.
Damage output comes from heavy attacks on downed enemies. I did over a full healthbar against a goreminotaur with a downed attack.
Is it me or does this game kinda suck?
I expected much more from it
It's amazing and one of the GOATs with some aspects being the absolute best across all games, but I did expect more from it.
I'm enjoying it and like it but I'm about 45 hours in now into a NG+ playthrough (still need to do the "end-game" shit because I forgot I had the Godsbane), but the more I play it now, I just want to open up DDDA and run through BBI instead, just to fight different fricking mobs
I heard this game has no scaling for New Game + so you just shitstomp everything on a new playthrough. Killed all interest in continuing the game for me.
It definitely doesn't, shit is ridiculous from minute one when you load into NG+.
I downloaded the Combat Tweaks mod from nexus so I'll see how it plays it with just the base settings on that
Console-bro's are shit out of luck though. No easy way to back-up saves to make a new game and no way to mod up the difficulty.
Call it autism but I refuse to mod games, if the devs are too lazy to add it then I'm just not going to continue playing. It's insane to me that a new game + wouldn't have any kind of difficulty increase. Makes absolutely zero sense.
I'm generally against modding stuff because I don't mod anything that goes against the "developers vision" or changes balance in anyway usually but holy frick, i am getting bored quick with how quickly fights end. I still have a bunch of stuff I want to explore in the game though and want to keep playing.
I can literally kill dragons in around <2 minutes on Mystic Spearhand and they deal frick all damage to me
It was pretty normal for an NG+ feature to not change the difficulty until Demon's/Dark Souls appeared.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I thought about that and while true, I think it's just the new standard that difficulty should be increased. Steamrolling isn't fun after the gimmick wears off. If they really wanted they could just copy dark souls/elden ring and make the first few cycles only barely harder but then make it increase to very challenging at a certain number of cycles. That way players can have their powerfantasy steamrolling but also get challenge later on.
>It's insane to me that a new game + wouldn't have any kind of difficulty increase
Its more insane when you think of how bad the scaling is going to be going from like lvl 60 and being OP already to lvl 200 and oneshotting bosses or some shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
who the frick is gonna get to lvl 200?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Im sure some autist like Nihil0.0 is going to max level easily.
theres absolutely no way they dont add shit like hard mode >increase damage taken >increase enemy hp >increase stagger/knockdown thresholds for all enemies >increase stamina usage because shit like formless feint or MS' bubble would still be broken as shit >give ng+ level scaling >also make it so unique bosses like sphinx can roam around in ng+ > make it so consumables cant be used in combat
adding more of the bosses to the world is wishful thinking but all of this seems very low expectations
It´s very dissapointing if you were a DD fan from the first hour and expected them to build on that foundation.
What we got reduction and simplification everywhere. If I´d be a poorgay or still a kid, I´d feel buyers remorse right now.
>the fricking cat on the cover isn't even in the game except for one cutscene >makes it blatantly obvious that the game wasn't even finished
What the actual frick man.
Please understand, it's the end of Capcom's fiscal year we had to do it. But don't worry, DD3 will be Itsuno's true vision, a fully realized game without cuts. Please look forward to it.
Welp. I fricked up my playthrough somehow because I sure as hell never saw her.
The Empress is featured in a multi part quest chain to stop her assassination. The lady on the right is that chick who shot down a Griffin and that's about all she does.
>I haven't played Dragon's Dogma ever before
Just add that to the start of your post next time so people can quickly write it off instead of wasting time reading. The fricking titular dragon has genuinely only 15 minutes of cutscenes in the first game, this is not and has never been that type of game.
>you're moronic for expecting a finished game
That is the whole argument, you fricking moron. Learn how to read.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You just haven't played the first game or don't remember it well at all and expected something entirely different from what everyone already knew would be the case for no reason, now you're shitposting about it online. You're just moronic, that's the whole argument.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>anon 1: game kinda sucks, I expected more from it >me: yeah, it's pretty blatantly unfinished >you: DUR WHY WOULD YOU EXCEPT A FINISHED GAYME?
Fricking moron.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you think the questlines being short and the NPC's not being important is the unfinished part of these games, then you are genuinely moronic and not in the meme insult way.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
No you fricking moron. Learn how to read before shitting up the thread with your absurd autism. Fricking homosexual wants to keep digging his grave.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's one example displaying the game being blatantly unfinished. How this is even up to debate while you claim to have played the first is unfathomably fricking stupid.
>slow down enemies >get on top of big foes without clutching >free teleport >shields for all the party >decent at melee (not broken like thief of course)
>walk into a cave by the shore >jump over a gap to get a treasure chest >main pawn just walks across the gap, stops halfway and stands there are she's killed by the spooky water monster >another pawn I hired does the same but just walks out into open water to die
how is it they can avoid falling off cliffs but not this shit?
They walk off cliffs all the time anon. Ironically NPC's do not. They just wobble back and forth like morons on the ledge, only your pawns are moronic enough to walk off a cliff into the ocean.
I found a spot in elf hand with bandits standing on top of some ruined arches and they just teetered on the edge forever instead of being able to jump over to it
mine have been surprisingly good at avoiding slipping off cliffs, even in situations where it would have reasonable for them to, maybe I'm just lucky in that respect
They walk off cliffs all the time anon. Ironically NPC's do not. They just wobble back and forth like morons on the ledge, only your pawns are moronic enough to walk off a cliff into the ocean.
This game pisses me off and I just bought it. >be walking across bridge/aqueduct thing above forest >trying to walk all the way back to city >grappling hook harpies, pull them down >two hired pawns jump attack them as they’re flailing, both fall off bridge >run all the way back to the slope where the bridge starts, get to the ground level >sprint to where pawns fell >where are they >game put their unconscious bodies back on top of the bridge >run out of time to save them >get assraped by gobbos because of the health bar decrease mechanic
ye. warrior has innate knockdown resist, don't know about fighter, but MS should be full dwarf. the only caveat is elemental weapons probably gain more damage from elven since they're split regardless.
Pretty much.
Dwarf Smithing for melee weapons and all armor.
Elf Smithing for staff and mystic bows, and any melee weapons with a permanent element on it.
>everyone talking about how busted warrior is >get excited because I've always been a "homie with a giant sword" moron >level it all the way, hating every second of it, hoping it gets better >it's just a slower, less vertically mobile version of DD1's warrior with pommel bash (barge) equipped by default
I didn't think they'd manage to make the worst vocation even slower to play, but they did.
I think DD2 Warrior is better in most ways than the DD1 incarnation
More rounded skills, including two anti-air, which the Warrior always needed
More knockback on more skills
Higher combo potential with Barge
Less reliance on Arc of Might for damage
Worse jumping attacks but jump across the board seems worse than DD1 jump attacks
I'd just switched from Fighter to Spearhand just before doing that quest and got knocked out by one lucky charged swing. If I had been fighter I'd have kicked his ass fast but I was stuck having to spam the zap stun and forward stab for two feet of ground only for him to get poise and just walk forward away from the rings edge over and over
>shanking the everloving shit out of beren >kindly reminds me it's a ring out match after getting kniferaped >character steps outside as I'm snaring him >"I expected better of you"
I'm shaving that homosexual lion.
It's you.
Spinny move is great.
Group shield might be one of the most broken skills in the game.
The stamina draining magic blast one shots most of the things and deals full HP bar of damage to bosses.
You can send goblins into space.
The blink strike is one of the best movement skills in the game.
Free paralyze on everything is great.
It's definitely you.
Is this game hard? Or same like DD1 where gamed ends when you get your Everfall weapon. I remember all this "max level build autism" was just grind to oneshot boss 1 second faster.
The max HP loss is a lot more punishing now but other than that its about the same
I've gotten OHKO'd a few times but I've also spent a lot more on weapons than armor
You can cheese some stuff really hard by playing a ranged class
Not really
The range of interactivity means there's greater opportunity for being curbstomped in a way that isn't having your healthbar deleted in a few hits
enemies don't have a lot of health, there is no hard mode and apparently all stats even out at level 200 so there isn't any build autism. also if get dropped to zero hp there's a long period where you can still heal so as long as you mash healing you basically cant die
positioning and stamina management is more important in this game compared to DD1, you can get gangraped by enemies if you try to unga your way through fights. On the other hand most vocations have damage negating skills which would probably be considered broken if they were in DD1. I think its a bit more difficult than DD1 overall.
It's a vocation that doesn't have any clear reason to exist >Fighter acts as an impervious tank that can also deal out decent knockdown >Warrior is similar but focuses more on knockdown and slow damaging hits >Thief is raw damage, probably the highest in the game, some utility, very mobile >Archer is ranged damage, quite mobile, almost necessary to have one in the party >Mage is healing and utility >Sorcerer is pure damage, flashy spells >Magic archer is fast-ranged utility, still has damage, very useful
Then there's >Mystic spearhand... is uh... cool I guess? It can do spinny moves and has some of the jankiest teleporting/dashing. Doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as thief or sorc, ranged abilities rarely hit anything >Trickster. I don't even have to describe how shit and pointless this one is, enjoy your meme "le monster jumped off le cliff after my 5 minute setup" scenario after the 3rd time you do it, gets old >Wayfarer isn't a vocation, lazy waste of a slot with gimped abilities, just fricking sucks
I'm a complete spellsword archetype autist and I feel like they really missed the mark with this.
First off, the normal and heavy attacks are almost as slow as greatsword attacks for no reason, and the R1 ability is extremely slow and punishing because most of your damage from this class comes from stamina use, mostly the meister skill.
But then on the other hand it has a full and complete 10 seconds of invincibility bubble, spammable at a very low stamina cost, which would be the most busted thing in the game if Martyr Shot didn't exist. And it's hard not to use it because all the attacks are so slow you're bound to get hit.
It's in this very weird contradictory place where at the same time it feels very weak and also completely broken because of 2 skills. Very little core abilities also, it feels like the heavy attack should've been expanded on, and the uncharged R1 should be spammable for a little ranged option without being forced to take the cannon, which is shit.
High Scepter would've been better, and I understand MS is somewhat of a middle ground between Spirit Lancer and High Scepter, but it really does just feel like a gimped Spirit Lancer.
>the normal and heavy attacks are almost as slow as greatsword attacks for no reason
The normal combo sucks compared to the max X windmill attack
Y outside of the executions is best used just for the magic damage or to chuck a projectile at some guy who's already staggering away
I don't really care about the shield it has with how easy like 90% of the game is, and extra trivializing the last 10% with it isn't really fun. It also just doesn't feel that fun in general, I'd much rather play Fighter or Thief for a melee focused class since your skills feel much more rounded and less situationally gimmicky or Sorcery for cool flashy and strong magic
I got to postgame at around 65 hours. I imagine it'll take me around 4 more to beat it but I rushed the main story because I was curious about the story. I'll be going into NG+ to actually finish up quests.
no you shouldn't feel tarded, however I will say there's probably going to be a moment for you very soon where the immersion and novelty of the game completely wears off
I was roughly at 35 hours and then suddenly realised I'm running around "hoping" the game gets a bit better, or a bit more interesting. It doesn't
The mines become boring, the roads become boring, the exploration loot is fricking terrible, picking materials up is pointless. It all hit me at once... just try to avoid this feeling i guess, or pound the story once you hit it
I was recently streaming the game on discord to my friends and they were laughing their asses off and enjoying all the wild shenanagins going down.
These guys were loving every minute of it. Suddenly the game became really magical once again, after I started putting on a show for other people and using all my wild skills to frick with enemies in the most fun way possible.
My last session had me a bit worried I was wringing the game dry of content, but showing it to other people this way was really fun.
The physics system and the dynamic spawns save the game, imo. Even with the pathetic enemy pool the game remains fun and unpredictable many hours in because of these elements. If there were just more enemies the game would be god-tier even with all the other issues
Same boat as you, anon. I just convinced the magistrate to leave jail, and I have 50 hours. It doesn't help that I've been real stingy with ferrystones and walking takes a lot of time.
I'm over 60 hours in and only just got to the volcano island last night
A little underwhelmed that the game is trying to hype up "the end of the journey" already but I read that you should finish up anything you wanted to do before going up moonglint tower so I reckon I'll have over 80+ by the time I reach the true ending.
I'm 91 hours into the game and only now reached the desert area. I even use ferrystones a lot, so I have no idea how people are rushing everything so fast. I guess they ignore the many side quests and only focus on the main story?
What do you mean? I've just been doing side quests mainly, or exploring the human area, going to caves, etc. I don't see what that has to do with learning issues lol
The fact that you don't even understand what I mean just shows how low your IQ is. My 100% savefile is sitting at 75 hours and at one point I left the game running while I slept
>48 hours haven't finished first set of story quests, but have gotten the "Back Where It All Began" achievement because exploring and finding a cave that heads into the beastren country. I wanted to kill that jackass overseer once I realized I was in the country again.
what's a good combination of abilities from thief and magick archer for warfarer? its gay not having master abilities but the game is piss easy with them anyway
They already give you a nerfed gay version burst, also you dont need a skill to use the oneshot god arrow tjat only use its to finish sphynx last challenge( she leaves if you just empty her hp bar with no reward until ng+)
Got it to 7 and dropped it, feels like shit to be honest, especially when the leap doesn't consistently place you on the back of large enemies and the teleport is too finnicky. Swapped to Archer and it felt better to play by rank 5.
Is dragonforging completely fricking pointless in this game or what? I completed the moored world and got dumped into ng+, and I never even upgraded my weapon to tier 3, let alone dragonforging it. What's the point? There's no Ur Dragon (that I can tell), no super boss, NG+ appears to be no different from base NG in terms of challenge, so... what the frick? Is this game unfinished?
increases atk and matk and halves the weight
the atk increase won't show if you don't select a fully upgraded weapon
but I think you went to NG+ without getting the last 3rd of the game lol and lmao
>start as fighter >game is fairly tough as I get used to the way blocking and positioning works, as well as managing stamina properly >reclass to Thief to try it out >beyblade around while being untouchable and shredding shit effortlessly
Formless feint breaks this vocation
Its gimmicky like all new vocations of this game i was expecting telekinesis swap grab objects or swap the op charge button for slow/stagger, yeet its a fricking waste with the moronic penalty
His VA sucks so bad. Took me right out of it when I met him.
dude i fricking HATE his VA, WHO is this homie? it's like Ada's VA where they hire some B-tier actress that thinks they're hot shit and then they put out a performance like this
its criminal how much better this game plays on genuine high fps. in the eastern forest right now the fps goes easy above 100 and its so smooth. forest looks amazing as well, even though it is small
Trickster is picked up almost as soon as you get into the Battahl region.
Magick Archer as soon as you get to the third region.
You can completely bypass the gates by taking a roundabout path and get them before doing any of the main story missions.
I've barely explored the map and I just hit 20. Main story is mostly minister shit right now and it's kinda putting me to sleep. I assume Battahl is the southern landmass that is super far away? No idea where the third region is.
You got a ways to go. Battahl is further to the southwest, past that river.
The third region is that big plume of smoke you see on the horizon when you look to the south across the lake from Vernworth.
Trickster is picked up almost as soon as you get into the Battahl region.
Magick Archer as soon as you get to the third region.
You can completely bypass the gates by taking a roundabout path and get them before doing any of the main story missions.
Might be because I was on Sorceror and level 12, but frick me that side path was awful. Best part was a Drake showing up while I was halfway down a cliff in Battahl, so it was survive the descent or reset back at the Inn. Then I found a better archistaff in the Elf tree, which you can run to as soon as you have the gold.
>Give the weapons to the Lennart in Melve >Tells me to leave before the reinforcements come >Go finish Trysha's quests >Her gran wants an escort to Melve after its finished >Head towards inn because I thought I had a day before all the villagers left >Was wrong, walked into Martin and he sends soldiers after me >My pawn one shots all 3 with Arc of Might >Find out you can't loot people you can use wakestones on >Not gonna burn three wakestones on these fricks >Throw their bodies into the river so they hopefully won't show up in the morgue
First NPC deaths in 40 hours, and they were by my hand(well my pawn's) lol.
had a lot of fun as fighter arisen with warrior main pawn. I'd be taking attention and suddenly my pawn would unleash some big ass move staggering the monster for the entire squad to then beatdown.
It's the best stagger in the game, I don't hire warrior pawns without it. Honestly I feel like it's a little OP of a move but I guess that's not a bad thing compared to the entire Thief class.
>give my warrior pawn the boost skill >she always uses this shit in combat
this seemed nice at the start but feels way less useful later in the game. should i replace it? im already using mountain breaker
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I really need to learn what skills the pawns are good with and which ones they don't know how to use.
I really liked using counter slash on fighter but I see my pawn sitting around with it on all the time.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't trust the pawns with any of the counter-stance stuff or Ladder Toss
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I can't speak for how often they try to use the skills, but they seem to have perfect timing when they do actually decide to use them. Same thing with the mage stuff in my experience. So the pawns in DD2 aren't THAT stupid, but they still obviously need some work.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't trust pawns to do anything but basic attacks and skill spams. They don't combo for shit. Except my pawn, who, for reasons I will never know, was the most murderous god damn thief ever. She would see enemies and charge tackle them, slit their throat, helm splitter constantly, climb and weak point exploit enemies, and would frequently kill shit before I had the chance to react. I regret changing her vocation because she never went that hard again after I changed her back.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Watching my main pawn thief at the start of the game tackle and execute goblins was quite a treat. I also love jumping on saurians with the skewer move for fighter and stabbing the absolute frick out of them.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
What inclination does he have?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Thief pawn AI probably knows how to play the class better than most players
Except for the morons who give them the fricking "blow yourself up" skill
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
pawns learn behavior from their arisens but only if their vocations are the SAME
so the first time you pick your pawn's vocation, it will set at a relatively 'okay' level of 'fighting intelligence'. but the moment you set it to anything else, it goes down to 'dumb as rocks' because the game is expecting you to switch to that vocation and teach them how to play it well. this was the same in DD1, but nowhere is it actually told to the player in DD2.
this is also why hired pawns tend to be fricking moronic.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
this isn't true, none of the "PAWNS LEARN SHIT" that people keep spouting is true, this game does not have any kind of refined AI
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
wrong
this isn't true, none of the "PAWNS LEARN SHIT" that people keep spouting is true, this game does not have any kind of refined AI
and also wrong
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>source: my ass
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thats literally every thief pawn. Mine does the same
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thats literally every thief pawn. Mine does the same
It's the Straightforward Inclination. Way too many people running melees with Kindhearted inclination because lol Laura Bailey's voice when Straightforward turns them into ruthless murder machines that will heatseek the nearest target to grapple and impale.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
My fighter pawn is calm
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Mine's kindehearted and does the same. She violently tackles mobs and shanks them. No idea abt va, im using japanese va
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Straightforward sounds like Fiora from Xenoblade to me. My pawn in DD1 sounded really similar I must have a type
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Straightforward pawns are too sassy in a world where I have to listen for insubordination or risk Dragon AIDS.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Boost is better for reaching places than combat IN DD2 because of what they did to air attacks IMO, but it's good for Thief once you have the upgraded counter-kill that can activate mid-air. Unless you're fighting giant enemies and don't have the augment to make climbing cost less stamina (which thief gets anyway) it's not very useful.
Wayfarer gets an exclusive equipment menu and can have nine total weapons at once. Could be one from each of the nine other classes, or several from the same class.
Equip any armor in the game
Equip any weapon in the game and 9 equipped at once to cycle through; only the heaviest weight counts
But you can only equip 3 skills, can’t equip master skills, and have bad stats
Dude why is Galvanize even a fricking thing I can't even fricking cast it if I'm recovering from 0 stamina and by the time it actually casts my stamina is already close to full what the FRICK give me lightning whip Itsuno
You get yourself down to a sliver instead of emptying out all the time
But yeah get a stamina ring and the stamina augment. The ring for 15 seekers medals that gives hp/carry weight/stamina gives a little more stamina than the regular ring does on its own.
right right, i haven't tried archer yet anyway so i might as well
You get yourself down to a sliver instead of emptying out all the time
But yeah get a stamina ring and the stamina augment. The ring for 15 seekers medals that gives hp/carry weight/stamina gives a little more stamina than the regular ring does on its own.
installed a reshade with better lighting
I advise you to do the same
this game has a fricking mud filter instead of the CoD piss filter
it's like an entirely new game with this https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/94?tab=description
Pray to god you raised your pawn well. It's meant for people who understand pawn habits and shit, so ideally you want them all to be aggressive so they don't stop to help you and shit, or do other shit midfight, then you use its debuffs and aggro mechanics to lead make the ogre focus on you or your smokehomie
The chance you have to set up a looney tunes drop off a cliff with that illusion floor are unlikely, but can be helped along with the other illusion. >Distract ogre with ghost for a while >Setup fake floor on edge of a cliff >Move ghost as close to the real edge as possible in front of the illusion, let the ogre get up on it >Build a wall and box the ogre in to frick with its pathfinding >blow smoke at it and hope it either staggers off or willingly walks off on to the fake floor
>kill this Black person during the fight in the tower >feel bad for him so just revive him >think nothing of it >finish game >true ending credits showing the characters I interacted with live their lives freely in the new world >sequence with phaesus and this Black person driving a cart. Theres some saurians on the road so Phaesus waked Black person up and points him at the saurians >Black person sighs and goes to work
Neat details
How do I trigger the phantom oxcart quest? I've been waiting in west vernsworth oxcart station where I'm supposed to overhear NPCs talking about it but there's not even any NPCs here
>like my party to have all different vocations >it's better to be the same vocation as your pawn so they can actually learn how to fight well
After 40 hours my fighter pawn never grabbed anything since I never needed to as a sorcerer. At least stats are less of a worry than the first game.
Nah they learn shit like that even if you aren't the same vocation
My Warrior pawn got a lot better at fighting Golems after I climbed all over one as a Spearhand
How the frick you even damage golems as a caster without Seism?
I had to run away from the one in front of Batahl after I took it off to try some other spells, seems like magic does no fricking damage to the medallions
I think my main pawn got the plague, she's been mouthing off rather frequently.
Can the main pawn ever do that "kills everyone in the city" account-bricking bullshit or just red-eyed hired pawns can?
The way this is worded makes it seem like a pawn infecting another cures the first pawn. Is that the case?
And does brining the main pawn actually work to cure them?
Warrior pawns suck fricking wiener. Enemies move way too fast for them and their mediocre positioning means they'll barely ever get a hit in. My main pawn went from carrying my ass as a Fighter to barely managing to hit the broad side of a barn on anything that wasn't a Cyclops.
Wow that's crazy if only pawns had some way to ensure the enemy comes to them >Bellow/Roar >Ring of Disfavor >Subtlety on other pawns/Arisen
People like you shouldn't be allowed to breathe
I literally ran a Fighter with Provocation + Shield Summons and aggro is fricking trash Black person. The enemy stops giving a frick about after you hit them once.
How much threat is too much? My main pawn is a Warrior and is stacking >Provocation augment to increase threat >Ring of Disfavor to increase threat >Roar skill to taunt enemies
does this have a noticeable difference? with only 4 skill slots I'd like to drop Roar but I feel like it's still needed
Roar probably isn't needed here but I guess it could work on the one enemy who is targeting your mages or archers? You could probably replace it with a damage skill just fine.
is the pawn AI smart enough to use Warrior's couner? right now I'm running heavenward sunder (because frick fliers), mountain breaker (insane stagger), and Gale Slash. If the AI can reliably counterattack I'll switch to that, otherwise what should I use as 4th?
In my experience they are very good at using it it, they are good at timing it, but they simply don't choose to use it as often as I would like. I assume part of it is that I haven't played the class myself yet, I might just pick it up and spam that for a while to see if it makes my pawn do so as well.
>moron sis
it is a waste. you can use it on anything else because if you actually pay attention during the fight and attack where the sphinx tells you to she doesnt fly away. go bonk the dragon or something with it
What's your ideal skill setup for fighter?
I usually use riotous fury, counter slash and skewer. Not sure what the best skill is for the last slot, thinking either burst strike or the air slash.
Air slash is your best tool against big monsters. It can headshot all of them when positioned correctly. Jump version is good againts small enemies too.
It's op against small enemies. Knocks them down really fast and then gouge kills them. Antler toss is better against large foes, but small enemies just die to bash and gouge. Note that the finisher is a better follow up than gouge on weaker enemies.
>Basic DnD classes still aren't represented >Tons of shit from the previous games left on the drawing board >Itsuno: "what if vergil but also silver the hedgehog but also more gay"
>Itsuno hits the chaos boof >Ano... What if Big The Cat had a goon squad he commanded via weed smoke that's also used to make the enemies have a really bad trip >How are we gonna make the tripping balls mechanic, Itsuno-san? >No, I mean they actually trip, like off a cliff, I have severe autism and am incredibly literal.
>Fighter pawns really smart about using launchboard in good situations, and getting me to treasure chests and alt paths >Warrior pawns think it's a good idea to crouch down in the middle of a goblin fight for 20 seconds hoping you'll bump into them so they can animation lock you into being thrown at the ceiling of the small tunnel you're in
why
GUYS HELP ME
THE homosexual DUDE COMPLAINED TO ULRIKA AND SHE DISAPPEARED FROM MELVE
BUT LENNEART NEVER GAVE ME THE QUEST, HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY
WHAT DO I DOOOO AHHHH ULRIKA IS MY "BELOVED" I NEED TO COMPLETE THE SPHYNX'S RIDDLE AAAA
TURNS OUT KILLING MARTIN BREAKS THE QUEST
BECAUSE OF COURSE ITSUNO DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR US TO KILL THE ONLY PERSON WHO COULD BRING TROUBLE TO ULRIKA, AMIRITE?
On another note, why isn't she with me when I ferrystone back to the Sphynx? I grab her and use the ferrystone. it doesn't work though.
>Guard captain asks me to talk to a prisoner in the gaol >The prisoner is standing away from the door so I can't talk to them >Have to use a key to open the cell door >All guards immediately aggro on me for this
they don't even do anything. you can run around the palace all you want at night time and the guards won't arrest you or even chase you for more than 5 feet
the entire crime system is entirely worthless and cosmetic
I literally walked out of there with him and the guards didn't do shit
The only time I had guards actually jump me for being somewhere I wasn't supposed to be was when I went in to the forbidden magick lab from the back entrance, for some reason they didn't give a shit when I went in the main door from the palace
>wear guard uniform >infiltration successful >touch a cell door >this alerts every guard to attack me >open cell door when nobody's looking and walk in >this is fine for some reason >escort the prisoner out >they're also okay with this
this doesn't make any sense
It's the spiritual successor to Mystic Knight. Fans of it think they're insanely technical players but they just spam their one cool trick and pretend they're God's gift to gaming.
Cause Strider was literally one button babymode in DD1. Helm splitter and gouge do more damage than everything now because Archer is kinda ass with less abilities and Mystic Spearhand is too slow in animation time to out DPS.
It's kinda shit without Meister skills. You essentially spam a worse Comestion, targeted Frazil and a ball of lightning until you get the magick equivalent of a sticky grenade and Seism and both of the meister spells.
So it really does only get worse before it gets better? Rip
At least if it really goes bad I can go back to mage until MA or MS and suck my pawns off since I've heard stats aren't important, right?
Magick Archer is fun and good, but the game really doesn't want you having it. Basically have to either trek to the end of the game or just not have it most of the game. The worst part is the final Sorcerer augment that boosts magick also fricking sucks this time around.
>gets to teleport around >big aoe ranged attack >spammable ranged stun >build-in weapon enhance >quick shields >throw shit at enemies with telekinesis >throw enemies with telekinesis >"vocation kinda sucks"
sounds like a skill issue to me, bub
What do I have to do for people to hire my fricking pawn? All of my """friends""" pawns are fighters so I decided to make her a Ranger yet I get no fricking hires.
What do I have to do for people to hire my fricking pawn? All of my """friends""" pawns are fighters so I decided to make her a Ranger yet I get no fricking hires.
Sorry, people only need 1 archer in their party and my pawn already taken that slot
Same. Its especially obnoxious in caves because of how tiny the corridors are. Speaking of which, 90% of the caves in this game suck ass. Very disappointed in the lack of places that felt like true RPG dungeons.
Why don't you like hallway that splits into two paths with a shallow pool of water in the middle of the fork number 28, anon? This one even has a slime stuck in the roof for variety
>going into a tomb in batthal >a lich appears >fighting lich >sorc pawn starts casting a tornado >lich starts rolling around the tomb hitting the walls and ceiling >can't see shit >his 3 healthbars get deleted in seconds
magic is really fun in this games
if my pawn isn't a warrior I try to hire a warrior. they have innate 400 knockback resist and are hyper-armor tanks with the best stagger ability in the game.
besides that make your pawn visually distinct in some way and not super underleveled.
>make pawn an archer >immediately stop getting hires
>Change pawn's hairstyle to the bun with curled front bangs after arriving to Battahl >Also give her the light based spell because original intention was to make her a priestess >No hires for over 24 hours >Change hair back >Also accidentally leave her as Sorcerer before going to bed because wanted to level vocation >Come back to game next day >Two heart ratings and a "bunch of flowers" as a gift
>If your mage/sorcerer pawn has high magick attack, they refuse to cast any spells and prefer to just poke enemies with a staff attack every 2 seconds or so
This is so fricking moronic. So you have to gimp your own pawn if you want them to be a strong sorcerer. Does the Magick stat determine spell damage or just the damage of the staff's attack?
I have not seen this with my Sorc pawn at all and she's almost level 50, with the magick boost ring and upgraded gear/lion staff. Although she does use Maelstrom too much for trash mob packs.
It's one of the most stacked vocations. It also gets a literal invincibility barrier for you and any pawn near you. If you want useless look at Trickster.
>bunch of complete garbage boring skills, the other 10% are OP so just spam them >all magic is generic dark souks blue flavourless magic with no element >melee weapons feels likes shit, light attacks do 1 damage each and heavy attack takes about 7 years to complete its animation >topor blast also feels slow and clunky and has zero synergy with whatever the vocation is even trying to do >no where near as many skills as MK, classic dragons downgrade 2
the vocations is just unfinished, you can tell it was a last minute addition.
I don't think this is a case of "last minute" I think they intentionally decided to focus on getting the tech and framework and then charge you for DLC to get MK, Assassin, and 6 ability slots + new story just like Dark Arisen.
blast also feels slow and clunky
You know you charge it while you're doing other shit right?
Shits busted by the time the first one wears off you can have another one ready unless you got hit by the slomo monster, and there's no diminishing returns on it
Skill issue
And you don't need to use the slow constantly you have a fricking invincibility bubble
RB is better than the default control being square like Nero in DMC
>topor blast also feels slow and clunky and has zero synergy with whatever the vocation is even trying to do
Itsuno watched a star wars movie and soi faced so he demanded his code monkeys make a jedi class, then when he had his next flash of inspiration the monkeys were moved to another task leaving the class half-baked.
Remove the purple/pink shit that trickster only got because it doesn't make sense as any other color.
We definitely should have advanced green/yellow vocations and 2-3 more hybrids.
thief's are top tier pawn ai in my experience, also going crazy or holding down dudes and instaplundering everything
archers will either bunker down and start raping a weak spot for 20 second solid deleting 2 health bars or shoot a piece of terrain the entire fight because the AI can't tell there's a huge rock blocking every shot
no in-between
Thundermine for crowd control, ice for utility, fire for dmg, seism for golems or stunlocks, augural flare for nukes, idk about meteron or the tornado im still trying them out, they take so long to cast even with multicast so idk if theyll be worth it to other people, I think you'll have to teach your pawn how to use it before you send it out with the maister skills
Why the frick can't sorcerers wear certain mage armor? Whose bright fricking idea was this? Mage has higher mag damage by far for 90% of the game thanks to item availability
>Knockers breaking the standing leap world record to fly halfway across the continent, past all 3 of my pawns to bop me specifically in the face
These little fricks are pretty damn annoying if you're not playing a melee job.
Can someone explain the MS bolt>AOE coreskill to me like i'm moronic? It's not functioning the way the game is saying it should, once I hit an enemy with the bolt it doesn't turn into an AOE or spread to other enemies once I tap R1 again
You tap immediately when it hits and it does a small pulse
Its not very big so it'll only get clustered up guys, not sure if it's any bigger on a large enemy or something
it's really silly they don't let them levitate other characters.
I think that skill has been useful exactly once for getting to a chest and even then I found a roundabout path I could have used instead.
I've found I think exactly two places that seemed to require mobility bullshit, though one of them I got in by jumping off one of the battahl ski lifts and the other I had a fighter pawn throw me in
Alright I still have a good amount of shit to do elsewhere but I'd bored to tears of the combat being easy so I want to do volcano content because the enemies there sort of put up a fight. If I do Moonglint Tower is that gonna frick me over? Is it the last mission?
>The only Trickster augments that are even tangentially related to combat are about avoiding fights entirely
Wow, they really do not want you using this for anything other than recon and distraction
The fricked up part is that it would be really sick in a co-op environemt, and if the gameplay and level design actually rewarded any of that
Trickster belongs in DDO and Alchemist belongs in this game, change my mind
Melee vocations got really good shit in this one, I don't know
its a magic tank. thats it
It's a tank that also has some gimmick skills that make it useful for bullshitting the AI, scouting areas, and buffing/debuffing. That could've been great if they committed to it more and just left it to you to specialize your build, but as it is it's a glorified pawn vocation that was made Arisen-exclusive due to being mechanically weird
Alchemist was also a tank, but with much more engaging skill-based tank abilities, and a long-game that gave it good burst damage potential if you paced yourself properly
Would've been cooler if you could use possession on your pawns to give a big buff
Though in warfarer's case that would require them to actually let you use the trickster stuff with warfarer
warfarer with magick bow main weapon, staff backup for anodyne so you don't need a mage and levitate for exploring, then daggers tertiary for quickstep and climbing+twin fangs plus golem hunting.
the MA meister kill is a meme that builds your loss gauge when you use it so not having it isn't an issue, you just spam sagittate avalanche anyways
>Unlock MA Meister >Equip it just for giggles as a wee level 1 Disciple >Go test it on the Drake outside of Melve >Drop to red, release and OHKO it before the skill is even done
Woha mama.
It's a great class but anyone in this thread who claims it is capable of doing good damage is trolling. It is easily the least damaging class of any melee vocation even with a maxed end game weapon and level 10. Compared to anything else it is a joke. I have double mob hp and triple boss hp mods on and I take 150% damage while dealing half and this class is the only one where it feels excessive every other class is capable of building into insane amounts of damage except this. But the aoe shield. The redoubt bolt and the mobility and fun factor are 10 out of 10. Overall it's my favorite class but it is awful in terms of dps. Only the spin to win move does good dps.
>spam square >stuck in moronic helicopter animation >can't cast safety bubble >get kicked in the face
I wish I had never picked up that shitty core skill.
It's you. It's incredibly good. What skills are you using? For me it's shield, dash, jump and kamehameha.
Plays more like a gimped DMC character than a melee/magic mix build, don't understand why this wasn't green/blue
discord troon
stop being moronic
'ord-link xzister?
>don't understand why this wasn't green/blue
This is the feeling I had. I use it more to jump up on big monsters weak point than actually doing tanking or wrecking stuff like a warrior would. The meister quest reward even alludes to it being paladin like but that couldn't be farther from the truth. It's way more bursty and hop in hop out like a thief than anything like a paladin.
>spearhand gets the more fitting green/blue, giving another green vocation
>clears up a spot for MK to exist in some form
>add a new red/yellow vocation to replace assassin as the non-magic hybrid
Really all I wanted in terms of new vocations
>can turn invincible for long periods of time at will
>doesn't feel tanky
Sucks early on, once you unlock it more it's a blast
I'm having a blast honestly
I just unlocked this
Should I stay sorcerer or jump to this
Sorcerer for more big spells, This one if you want to combine Melee and Magic a little more.
It's like Magic knight but less parry focused.
It does. Its only good skill is just the shitty "lol invulnerable" thing.
Thief,Magick Archer and Warfarer mog the hell out of it and are also more exciting to play.
Based crutch enjoyer.
Yes, I DO enjoy the Magian Crutch.
Holding R1 all the time got old for me and now I want to switch to another class tbh.
It looked a lot cooler in the trailers. The invulnerability shield is broken as hell though.
Its better than Mystic Knight, which was a boring as frick class.
Filtered by kino shield blocks
You still have it but you cant buff it without books or mage pawn( dlc should have skills like master unlocks to fix the lack of mystic knight to fighter)
Mystic Knight was by far the best class and super fun
>what if we made Insect Glaive 0.5
looks like 2 shota ballsacks about to touch
What? No it doesn-
aw frick
Its 2 male jap genital after using too much viagra touching themselves"no homo"
what the frick, anon? go jerk off and clean your head
I would've said two faces making kissy lips but sure
Jesus Christ zoomers are lost
Thanks anon
frick you. it's the re6 giraffe all over again.
CAN'T UNSEE
you're such a fricking c**t anon.
frick you
Why the frick do you know what that looks like?
I don't see it
Look on sides
I literally cannot see it. Are you all just deranged? because I am and still can't see it
not the dualspear part, the red and blue negative space
looks more like buttcheeks to me
Look at the sides of the logo moron.
Goddammit
I'm playing it right now whilst I max them out all the vocations and this one feels the most fricking busted.
>lets just make the vocation skill let the player completely freeze every enemy so they can get the super strong heavy attack instakill move out
it's fricking moronic and makes every fight that isn't a large monster boring
how the hell do i play trickster?
I don't think there's a good way to unless you've got a cliff nearby.
Summon clone, throw some pocket sand around and buff your pawn. Repeat as needed
If there's a cliff around you can do some will e coyote shit with the fake floor skill
You don't. Suffer with it until you get the Seeker Token detector augment and ditch that moronic meme vocation.
You know all the webms in the DD threads over the years with silly shit like enemies jumping over cliffs trying to attack you? You do things like that, but intentionally. Class is very fun once you actually unlock skills, so just hire a bunch of aggressive damage pawns and kill easier targets at first until you get skills.
>Fighter
Good all rounder but a higher skill ceiling than most so people won't really get the most out of it because initial impressions are kinda meh
>Archer
Solid damage and fast from afar. Relies on weak point exploits on constantly moving targets and special arrows for different attack skills.
>Thief
Fast murder hobo. Damage output is pretty insane, but squishy as hell. Glass canon melee fighter.
>Mage
Support heavy magic user. Damn near essential to have in your party for a lot of the game until other vocations with healing options open up.
>Sorcerer
Slow as Christmas to cast and doesn't really get very strong until the ass end of maxing out the vocation. Once there, they are kings of AoE attacks, but slow as hell and squishy.
>Warrior
Big hits that melt health bars. Slow start to swinging, but good timing has them being pretty damn fast infinite combo vocation that just laughs off staggering effects. Charging out the ass here though.
>Mystic Spearhand
Fast, shield survivability, and closes distance well. Damage output is on the low end of the scale though. Probably the weakest outright melee class in the game but is fast.
>Magick Archer
Absolutely zero close range options, but outside of that it will be the best all round damage dealer in the game with fire and forget it spells, ricochet Hunter destroying cavern/indoor enemies, and weakness exploits AND weakspots exploits aplenty. The only enemy they struggle a bit on are golems.
>Trickster
The most situation dependent vocation. The most pawn dependent vocation. The vocation that struggles on every boss fight.
>Warfarer
Neat idea, but kinda shit execution. Can't use any Meister arts, can only use three skills, and it is worse at everything it mimics. In a game so focused on party composition, this vocation comes off as pretty much useless.
>Tfw fricking c**ts kept talking about ranger being a vocation but they meant archer and there's no ranger in the game
Thief isn't a glass cannon when it has a literal invulnerability ability lol
>Thief
>Glass canon melee fighter.
bro? your formless feint?
>thief
>glass canon
OMEGALUL
This. I think my thief pawn has died a grand total of twice in my playthrough. One from being the last man standing vs a Drake and another from falling. 3 theif pawns with player being mage support is fricking hilarious.
why not be a thief yourself with pawn mage support?
Cause you dont need support as thief. Seriously, full thief party is cheat mode.
>Slow as Christmas to cast
Do you not use quickcast?
Also, a pawn with surgeon means you can have a stronger party for upfront damage and heal just as much as a mage.
Quickcast doesn't work on the Meister spells, which are the spells you wanna cast once you got them.
Warfarer would make every other class obsolete once you get it if it worked the way you wanted it to. Also Trickster does well in most humanoid boss fights - ogres, cyclops and especially Dullahan.
Warfarer+Trickster is the secret sauce and will probably be great if we get a BBI style expansion.
>Warfarer+Trickster is the secret sauce
Except you literally can't use it
The point of a trickster warfarer should be to use the complex tank/distraction abilities to do setup for another vocation, but switching weapons deletes the trickster setup
All you can use it for is drawing aggro to yourself, quickswapping to cast the singular pawn buff skill, or deciding on a whim to hard commit to trickster for a fight despite it being the worst option available to you in any warfarer setup
Nevermind the lack of skill slots making most of trickster's skills even shittier than they already are
Bro you are asserting that Wayfarer should just be a straight upgrade of trickster
I'm asserting that one good vocation would be better than two sad ignorable gimmicks
Wayfarer is very good, Trickster is dumb and not that good but funny
Should've at least let you have 3 skills per weapon
Warfarer its fine if you play it as magic archer with one skill button less and more gear option like melee
My plan for new game plus is a huge buff warfarer with mystic archer, spear hand sorcerer with a mage pawn for Ealing no other pawns allowed.
>no warrior
ignore this, not a good look for warrior player reading comprehension lol
>Fighter
Is great for main character larping and "I'll protect everyone!" protagonist shit. Initial impressions are meh because it's Tanking: The Experience. And if you're bad at managing your inventory or still inexperienced then you're probably always this Very Heavy fatfrick getting gassed every 9 steps you take. Very straightforward and stable it just isn't flashy enough for the anime/Captain America/Vindictus fans.
>you're probably always this Very Heavy fatfrick getting gassed every 9 steps you take
just give all your items to pawns are you moronic?
All of my pawns are fatfricks. But no like half an hour ago I literally learned that I don't need to carry around multiple camping packs so that...that helped a lot.
>I literally learned that I don't need to carry around multiple camping packs
don't worry ive made the same mistake at the start.
Oddly enough, I went through a whole playthrough camping out a ton and never got raided once. On the other hand I also never had an ox cart trip that was not attacked and destroyed. Also "ox carts never travel at night" is pure horseshit because that is when I was always attacked while riding one.
I've been raided once in the desert so far
And yeah every single oxcart has been interrupted
Spells from you and your party damage the cart.
I know, but us destroying it was rare. Usually the cyclopes, ogre, or minotaur just flattened it. Got dive bombed by griffins a few times. The couple of occasions we destroyed it was when goblins were wailing on it and a mage pawn hit them with fire spray destroying the cart.
I hopped on one of those fancy oxcarts and halfway through the driver telling me to frick off, a griffin landed on it and exploded the whole wagon
>Tanking
Nah, that's what I mean by having a high skill ceiling. A fighter CAN tank, but reflecting and punishing is when they shine. Reflect to Tusk Toss to Down crack fricks up medium opponents. Shield spin breaks through a swarm and leaves them open for punishment. It's a technical as hell vocation that is fantastic if you learn the intricacies, but I acknowledge most won't bother when they get similar results with much easier to learn vocations.
Fighter has a lot of overlooked skills. For example, Cloudward Slash is great against bosses and good against grounded small enemies, but most only see it as an anti harpy tool. I would also love to know what % of players know that finishers exist.
It's bizarre. How many know that sprinting into a grab pins opponents and the thief can slit their throat when doing so?
Most people probably overlook the frick out of the Core Skills of most classes as well as the dynamics of the grabbing mechanics, they're so deeply embedded into the first game having mostly useless normal attacks and just spamming the slotted Skills that they don't see anything else. The sort of shit you can do with R2 are fricking amazing.
It's probably why people think warfarer is shit. Slapping fighter's core skills on a ranged class or trickster is well worth a skill slot.
The basic attack for warriors when you get the chain combo down is disgustingly overpowered but people just keep on charging.
For fighter, stuff that was active skills are just part of the basic moveset this time around.
probably scrapped, like obviously a lot in this game
meant for
>thief
>squishy
>glass cannon
U wot m8? Thief has Formless Feint. They literally cannot die. Blades of the Pyre does no dmg during Formless Feint. Thief is the strongest class befause of this. You can just solo the entire game, no pawns needed anymore. Glass cannon, kek, what a moron
>Good all rounder but a higher skill ceiling than most so people won't really get the most out of it because initial impressions are kinda meh
This guy gets it. Fighter is awesome.
>Fast, shield survivability, and closes distance well. Damage output is on the low end of the scale though. Probably the weakest outright melee class in the game but is fast.
Damage output comes from heavy attacks on downed enemies. I did over a full healthbar against a goreminotaur with a downed attack.
It's amazing and one of the GOATs with some aspects being the absolute best across all games, but I did expect more from it.
Is it me or does this game kinda suck?
I expected much more from it
Unironically worse then the original, but since its built on the bones of the original so its still a good game.
I'm enjoying it and like it but I'm about 45 hours in now into a NG+ playthrough (still need to do the "end-game" shit because I forgot I had the Godsbane), but the more I play it now, I just want to open up DDDA and run through BBI instead, just to fight different fricking mobs
I heard this game has no scaling for New Game + so you just shitstomp everything on a new playthrough. Killed all interest in continuing the game for me.
It definitely doesn't, shit is ridiculous from minute one when you load into NG+.
I downloaded the Combat Tweaks mod from nexus so I'll see how it plays it with just the base settings on that
Console-bro's are shit out of luck though. No easy way to back-up saves to make a new game and no way to mod up the difficulty.
Call it autism but I refuse to mod games, if the devs are too lazy to add it then I'm just not going to continue playing. It's insane to me that a new game + wouldn't have any kind of difficulty increase. Makes absolutely zero sense.
I'm generally against modding stuff because I don't mod anything that goes against the "developers vision" or changes balance in anyway usually but holy frick, i am getting bored quick with how quickly fights end. I still have a bunch of stuff I want to explore in the game though and want to keep playing.
I can literally kill dragons in around <2 minutes on Mystic Spearhand and they deal frick all damage to me
It was pretty normal for an NG+ feature to not change the difficulty until Demon's/Dark Souls appeared.
I thought about that and while true, I think it's just the new standard that difficulty should be increased. Steamrolling isn't fun after the gimmick wears off. If they really wanted they could just copy dark souls/elden ring and make the first few cycles only barely harder but then make it increase to very challenging at a certain number of cycles. That way players can have their powerfantasy steamrolling but also get challenge later on.
>It's insane to me that a new game + wouldn't have any kind of difficulty increase
Its more insane when you think of how bad the scaling is going to be going from like lvl 60 and being OP already to lvl 200 and oneshotting bosses or some shit.
who the frick is gonna get to lvl 200?
Im sure some autist like Nihil0.0 is going to max level easily.
theres absolutely no way they dont add shit like hard mode
>increase damage taken
>increase enemy hp
>increase stagger/knockdown thresholds for all enemies
>increase stamina usage because shit like formless feint or MS' bubble would still be broken as shit
>give ng+ level scaling
>also make it so unique bosses like sphinx can roam around in ng+
> make it so consumables cant be used in combat
adding more of the bosses to the world is wishful thinking but all of this seems very low expectations
I think it's fun enough but I also did not have high expectations of it.
i went back to playing DD;DA
gonna wait on DDO private servers
It´s very dissapointing if you were a DD fan from the first hour and expected them to build on that foundation.
What we got reduction and simplification everywhere. If I´d be a poorgay or still a kid, I´d feel buyers remorse right now.
>the fricking cat on the cover isn't even in the game except for one cutscene
>makes it blatantly obvious that the game wasn't even finished
What the actual frick man.
Please understand, it's the end of Capcom's fiscal year we had to do it. But don't worry, DD3 will be Itsuno's true vision, a fully realized game without cuts. Please look forward to it.
That cat has identical screentime to the human lady on the cover.
anon i...
The Empress is featured in a multi part quest chain to stop her assassination. The lady on the right is that chick who shot down a Griffin and that's about all she does.
Anon i...
Am wrong? Yeah I know, moron that's why I'm explaining this to you.
did you miss her entire quest chain?
Oh so you mean to say they both have a quest chain? As in identical amounts of screen time?
yes thats what i was saying
>She didn't visit Melve in time
Welp. I fricked up my playthrough somehow because I sure as hell never saw her.
>I haven't played Dragon's Dogma ever before
Just add that to the start of your post next time so people can quickly write it off instead of wasting time reading. The fricking titular dragon has genuinely only 15 minutes of cutscenes in the first game, this is not and has never been that type of game.
it also has the best fight in the history of gaming
only to be surpassed by daemon (1st and 2nd form)
>20 hour unfinished campaign, please understand
This isn't exactly the kind of argument you think it is.
It's not an "argument" or "defense" for anything, I'm calling you moronic for expecting stuff the game series was never known for at all.
>you're moronic for expecting a finished game
That is the whole argument, you fricking moron. Learn how to read.
You just haven't played the first game or don't remember it well at all and expected something entirely different from what everyone already knew would be the case for no reason, now you're shitposting about it online. You're just moronic, that's the whole argument.
>anon 1: game kinda sucks, I expected more from it
>me: yeah, it's pretty blatantly unfinished
>you: DUR WHY WOULD YOU EXCEPT A FINISHED GAYME?
Fricking moron.
If you think the questlines being short and the NPC's not being important is the unfinished part of these games, then you are genuinely moronic and not in the meme insult way.
No you fricking moron. Learn how to read before shitting up the thread with your absurd autism. Fricking homosexual wants to keep digging his grave.
It's one example displaying the game being blatantly unfinished. How this is even up to debate while you claim to have played the first is unfathomably fricking stupid.
2 actually, you missed a sidequest
not as fun as i thought it would be, the aoe shield ability makes most fights easy as frick though.
>slow down enemies
>get on top of big foes without clutching
>free teleport
>shields for all the party
>decent at melee (not broken like thief of course)
is there a reason why Trickster, Mystic Spearhead, Magick Archer and Warfarer are exclusive to the Arisen?
Pawn AI would shit itself trying to figure out what to do
More like the game would play itself with 3 magic archer pawns
3 pawns shitting ice blocks would be broken yes
Literally already does with one thief pawn in your party with helm splitter and formless feint equipped
>walk into a cave by the shore
>jump over a gap to get a treasure chest
>main pawn just walks across the gap, stops halfway and stands there are she's killed by the spooky water monster
>another pawn I hired does the same but just walks out into open water to die
how is it they can avoid falling off cliffs but not this shit?
They walk off cliffs all the time anon. Ironically NPC's do not. They just wobble back and forth like morons on the ledge, only your pawns are moronic enough to walk off a cliff into the ocean.
I found a spot in elf hand with bandits standing on top of some ruined arches and they just teetered on the edge forever instead of being able to jump over to it
mine have been surprisingly good at avoiding slipping off cliffs, even in situations where it would have reasonable for them to, maybe I'm just lucky in that respect
I've only seen my pawns take big falls when they get hit over an edge in a fight
This game pisses me off and I just bought it.
>be walking across bridge/aqueduct thing above forest
>trying to walk all the way back to city
>grappling hook harpies, pull them down
>two hired pawns jump attack them as they’re flailing, both fall off bridge
>run all the way back to the slope where the bridge starts, get to the ground level
>sprint to where pawns fell
>where are they
>game put their unconscious bodies back on top of the bridge
>run out of time to save them
>get assraped by gobbos because of the health bar decrease mechanic
It's basically the insect glavie from MH, but worse.
>skip quen
>upgrade all gear+weapons in dwarven style
there, now it's fun.
So dwarf its fine for all armor?
ye. warrior has innate knockdown resist, don't know about fighter, but MS should be full dwarf. the only caveat is elemental weapons probably gain more damage from elven since they're split regardless.
Pretty much.
Dwarf Smithing for melee weapons and all armor.
Elf Smithing for staff and mystic bows, and any melee weapons with a permanent element on it.
Why would you upgrade mystic spear Dwarven? Isn't it 50 50 magic attack
>the Rose Chateau has Beastren courtesans
GOTY
>everyone talking about how busted warrior is
>get excited because I've always been a "homie with a giant sword" moron
>level it all the way, hating every second of it, hoping it gets better
>it's just a slower, less vertically mobile version of DD1's warrior with pommel bash (barge) equipped by default
I didn't think they'd manage to make the worst vocation even slower to play, but they did.
Black person you get hyper armor are you trying to play it like the fricking thief?
Learn to time your attacks
The high tier gale slash and the core skill that lets you just swing like ape shit makes it a bit faster on the attacks
Learn to use the counter, the timed speedy swings, and mountain breaker as a counter to stun larger enemies.
>he fell for the warrior meme
Good at staggering but boring as shit.
i love warrior the most because when you get the timings right it feels like you're the boss the monster keeps stumbling against
You have more options than jumping light attack like in 1. But you're still not thief.
I always forget to use the RB attacks
I think DD2 Warrior is better in most ways than the DD1 incarnation
More rounded skills, including two anti-air, which the Warrior always needed
More knockback on more skills
Higher combo potential with Barge
Less reliance on Arc of Might for damage
Worse jumping attacks but jump across the board seems worse than DD1 jump attacks
It's literally just MH World's Greatsword. If that's you then whatever but it's trash to me and I'll never forgive this betrayal.
Has Unto Heaven so its good
>tfw lost to Beren
>tfw he says he expected more from you
I'd just switched from Fighter to Spearhand just before doing that quest and got knocked out by one lucky charged swing. If I had been fighter I'd have kicked his ass fast but I was stuck having to spam the zap stun and forward stab for two feet of ground only for him to get poise and just walk forward away from the rings edge over and over
>shanking the everloving shit out of beren
>kindly reminds me it's a ring out match after getting kniferaped
>character steps outside as I'm snaring him
>"I expected better of you"
I'm shaving that homosexual lion.
>stagger him with one hit
>pick him up
>throw him out of the circle
gg ez
I sent his dumb lion ass flying into the horizon with Mystic Spearhand’s ridiculous knockback skill.
I love using that indoors
>Saurian pingpongs off of 2 walls and knocks over one of its friends
It's you.
Spinny move is great.
Group shield might be one of the most broken skills in the game.
The stamina draining magic blast one shots most of the things and deals full HP bar of damage to bosses.
You can send goblins into space.
The blink strike is one of the best movement skills in the game.
Free paralyze on everything is great.
It's definitely you.
And the upwards teleport drops you on top of monsters if you do it under them
>the stamina draining magic blast one shots most things.
No it doesn't. It's so underwhelming I quit using it.
was capcom expecting elden ring numbers?
Is this game hard? Or same like DD1 where gamed ends when you get your Everfall weapon. I remember all this "max level build autism" was just grind to oneshot boss 1 second faster.
The max HP loss is a lot more punishing now but other than that its about the same
I've gotten OHKO'd a few times but I've also spent a lot more on weapons than armor
You can cheese some stuff really hard by playing a ranged class
is it weird that I found random bandits and wolves in DD1 to be harder than literally anything from a Fromsoft game
Well perhaps you're baiting or perhaps it's flat damage reduction issue. You can't deal real damage until you get weapon upgrade.
Not really
The range of interactivity means there's greater opportunity for being curbstomped in a way that isn't having your healthbar deleted in a few hits
enemies don't have a lot of health, there is no hard mode and apparently all stats even out at level 200 so there isn't any build autism. also if get dropped to zero hp there's a long period where you can still heal so as long as you mash healing you basically cant die
positioning and stamina management is more important in this game compared to DD1, you can get gangraped by enemies if you try to unga your way through fights. On the other hand most vocations have damage negating skills which would probably be considered broken if they were in DD1. I think its a bit more difficult than DD1 overall.
It's a vocation that doesn't have any clear reason to exist
>Fighter acts as an impervious tank that can also deal out decent knockdown
>Warrior is similar but focuses more on knockdown and slow damaging hits
>Thief is raw damage, probably the highest in the game, some utility, very mobile
>Archer is ranged damage, quite mobile, almost necessary to have one in the party
>Mage is healing and utility
>Sorcerer is pure damage, flashy spells
>Magic archer is fast-ranged utility, still has damage, very useful
Then there's
>Mystic spearhand... is uh... cool I guess? It can do spinny moves and has some of the jankiest teleporting/dashing. Doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as thief or sorc, ranged abilities rarely hit anything
>Trickster. I don't even have to describe how shit and pointless this one is, enjoy your meme "le monster jumped off le cliff after my 5 minute setup" scenario after the 3rd time you do it, gets old
>Wayfarer isn't a vocation, lazy waste of a slot with gimped abilities, just fricking sucks
Archer its not necesary when you re magic archer
Warfarer its fine if he had more than 3 skills, waste its trickster
so uh, how are people killing The Dragon with Trickster?
Wait until Pawns kill it?
just do the QTE ending, easy peasy
I'm a complete spellsword archetype autist and I feel like they really missed the mark with this.
First off, the normal and heavy attacks are almost as slow as greatsword attacks for no reason, and the R1 ability is extremely slow and punishing because most of your damage from this class comes from stamina use, mostly the meister skill.
But then on the other hand it has a full and complete 10 seconds of invincibility bubble, spammable at a very low stamina cost, which would be the most busted thing in the game if Martyr Shot didn't exist. And it's hard not to use it because all the attacks are so slow you're bound to get hit.
It's in this very weird contradictory place where at the same time it feels very weak and also completely broken because of 2 skills. Very little core abilities also, it feels like the heavy attack should've been expanded on, and the uncharged R1 should be spammable for a little ranged option without being forced to take the cannon, which is shit.
High Scepter would've been better, and I understand MS is somewhat of a middle ground between Spirit Lancer and High Scepter, but it really does just feel like a gimped Spirit Lancer.
>the normal and heavy attacks are almost as slow as greatsword attacks for no reason
The normal combo sucks compared to the max X windmill attack
Y outside of the executions is best used just for the magic damage or to chuck a projectile at some guy who's already staggering away
get good scrub
I would much rather have High Scepter and Spirit Lancer if only because twinblades are gay.
needs more classes
needs more monsters
I don't really care about the shield it has with how easy like 90% of the game is, and extra trivializing the last 10% with it isn't really fun. It also just doesn't feel that fun in general, I'd much rather play Fighter or Thief for a melee focused class since your skills feel much more rounded and less situationally gimmicky or Sorcery for cool flashy and strong magic
>hearing everyone beating the game around 40 hours
>39 hours and haven't done the corronation yet
am i tarded
There's never anything wrong with taking your time with a game
Nah I just beat it, took me 70h
if you're curious and try to do quests in roundabout ways it'll take you very long
I got to postgame at around 65 hours. I imagine it'll take me around 4 more to beat it but I rushed the main story because I was curious about the story. I'll be going into NG+ to actually finish up quests.
If you're having fun exploring then I don't think it really matters
The main quest is pretty whatever at least as far as I've gotten
no you shouldn't feel tarded, however I will say there's probably going to be a moment for you very soon where the immersion and novelty of the game completely wears off
I was roughly at 35 hours and then suddenly realised I'm running around "hoping" the game gets a bit better, or a bit more interesting. It doesn't
The mines become boring, the roads become boring, the exploration loot is fricking terrible, picking materials up is pointless. It all hit me at once... just try to avoid this feeling i guess, or pound the story once you hit it
I was recently streaming the game on discord to my friends and they were laughing their asses off and enjoying all the wild shenanagins going down.
These guys were loving every minute of it. Suddenly the game became really magical once again, after I started putting on a show for other people and using all my wild skills to frick with enemies in the most fun way possible.
My last session had me a bit worried I was wringing the game dry of content, but showing it to other people this way was really fun.
The physics system and the dynamic spawns save the game, imo. Even with the pathetic enemy pool the game remains fun and unpredictable many hours in because of these elements. If there were just more enemies the game would be god-tier even with all the other issues
No you just enjoy the game "strength" that its exploring the map and do sidequests
no and thats a good thing. savor it and have a blast
also coronation locks some early quests so make sure to romance ulrik before that
Same boat as you, anon. I just convinced the magistrate to leave jail, and I have 50 hours. It doesn't help that I've been real stingy with ferrystones and walking takes a lot of time.
I'm over 60 hours in and only just got to the volcano island last night
A little underwhelmed that the game is trying to hype up "the end of the journey" already but I read that you should finish up anything you wanted to do before going up moonglint tower so I reckon I'll have over 80+ by the time I reach the true ending.
you can easily finish the game in 10 hours, the game lets you skip shitton of quests and content if you just rush the main quest.
I'm 91 hours into the game and only now reached the desert area. I even use ferrystones a lot, so I have no idea how people are rushing everything so fast. I guess they ignore the many side quests and only focus on the main story?
sorry anon but you must literally have a learning disability if you aren't done with your first playthrough at 91 hours.
What do you mean? I've just been doing side quests mainly, or exploring the human area, going to caves, etc. I don't see what that has to do with learning issues lol
The fact that you don't even understand what I mean just shows how low your IQ is. My 100% savefile is sitting at 75 hours and at one point I left the game running while I slept
>91 hours
imagine the smell
Unlike the morons who rush through the main story, you are playing the game correctly.
>48 hours haven't finished first set of story quests, but have gotten the "Back Where It All Began" achievement because exploring and finding a cave that heads into the beastren country. I wanted to kill that jackass overseer once I realized I was in the country again.
what's a good combination of abilities from thief and magick archer for warfarer? its gay not having master abilities but the game is piss easy with them anyway
Is Vol 1 of that Sorc spellbook somewhere easy to miss? I got Vol 2 at the forgery guy.
misc merchant in cat town. gotta do his quest.
We lost mystic knight because of this shit. Only 4 skills and 1 weapon per vocation was a mistake.
No the mistake was removing dd1 skills like glice and put 4 moronic skills to use ammo as archer
where's my Fivefold Flurry itsuno?!?!
can you only use special ammo with the corresponding skills? i guess they wanted to stop sevenfold blast arrowing things
Yeah the ammo just gets consumed by specific skills
Its just some extra prep for archers
They already give you a nerfed gay version burst, also you dont need a skill to use the oneshot god arrow tjat only use its to finish sphynx last challenge( she leaves if you just empty her hp bar with no reward until ng+)
like what
Got it to 7 and dropped it, feels like shit to be honest, especially when the leap doesn't consistently place you on the back of large enemies and the teleport is too finnicky. Swapped to Archer and it felt better to play by rank 5.
Is dragonforging completely fricking pointless in this game or what? I completed the moored world and got dumped into ng+, and I never even upgraded my weapon to tier 3, let alone dragonforging it. What's the point? There's no Ur Dragon (that I can tell), no super boss, NG+ appears to be no different from base NG in terms of challenge, so... what the frick? Is this game unfinished?
increases atk and matk and halves the weight
the atk increase won't show if you don't select a fully upgraded weapon
but I think you went to NG+ without getting the last 3rd of the game lol and lmao
It is just finish the "true ending" KEK
You gotta be more motivated to play Darth Vergil.
Thief is legit fricking broken, I have no idea what advanced they're gonna do for it unless they nerf it.
>start as fighter
>game is fairly tough as I get used to the way blocking and positioning works, as well as managing stamina properly
>reclass to Thief to try it out
>beyblade around while being untouchable and shredding shit effortlessly
Formless feint breaks this vocation
>advanced
so is it confirmed we're getting more vocations?
it came to me in a dream
I like spears. But getting knocked around all the time feels very disappointing
Its broken OP.
Here is what i use:
Square: Meister Skill
Triangle: Teleport above attack
Circle: Telekinesis
X: Invulnerability time
Technically, Dragon Lunge or whatever would be better than Telekinesis but i like the utility plus its also cool looking
Based fellow Magnetobro. I love chucking shit with my mind.
Its gimmicky like all new vocations of this game i was expecting telekinesis swap grab objects or swap the op charge button for slow/stagger, yeet its a fricking waste with the moronic penalty
>game hypes this Black person up
>this happens
His VA sucks so bad. Took me right out of it when I met him.
>Im The prince of ACK!
Wait you can actually kill him? I just yanked him around with Implicate a bunch until a cutscene triggered and he maxed out affection and fricked off.
yes
dude i fricking HATE his VA, WHO is this homie? it's like Ada's VA where they hire some B-tier actress that thinks they're hot shit and then they put out a performance like this
>fires an explosive arrow once
>instantly dies as his body flies off the bridge
im so sick of ESG and this Black person is like a third of the voices in the game, playing in japanese is a must
its criminal how much better this game plays on genuine high fps. in the eastern forest right now the fps goes easy above 100 and its so smooth. forest looks amazing as well, even though it is small
I dunno why Vermund runs so much worse than everywhere else I've gone
I love playing spearhand. The jumps and gravity throw make me feel like I'm playing TheForceUnleashed.
Are Trickster and Magick Archer both "endgame"? Mage has been a slog, only unlocked Warrior and Sorc.
trickster you can find easily in catland, magick archer is in the very last area but you can rush to it
I've barely explored the map and I just hit 20. Main story is mostly minister shit right now and it's kinda putting me to sleep. I assume Battahl is the southern landmass that is super far away? No idea where the third region is.
You got a ways to go. Battahl is further to the southwest, past that river.
The third region is that big plume of smoke you see on the horizon when you look to the south across the lake from Vernworth.
Trickster is picked up almost as soon as you get into the Battahl region.
Magick Archer as soon as you get to the third region.
You can completely bypass the gates by taking a roundabout path and get them before doing any of the main story missions.
Can't you just bumrush through the gate when it opens for a cart?
Yes. Nice border security.
Might be because I was on Sorceror and level 12, but frick me that side path was awful. Best part was a Drake showing up while I was halfway down a cliff in Battahl, so it was survive the descent or reset back at the Inn.
Then I found a better archistaff in the Elf tree, which you can run to as soon as you have the gold.
Take the Guerco cavern pill.
Just switch to archer. It's a ton of fun.
>Give the weapons to the Lennart in Melve
>Tells me to leave before the reinforcements come
>Go finish Trysha's quests
>Her gran wants an escort to Melve after its finished
>Head towards inn because I thought I had a day before all the villagers left
>Was wrong, walked into Martin and he sends soldiers after me
>My pawn one shots all 3 with Arc of Might
>Find out you can't loot people you can use wakestones on
>Not gonna burn three wakestones on these fricks
>Throw their bodies into the river so they hopefully won't show up in the morgue
First NPC deaths in 40 hours, and they were by my hand(well my pawn's) lol.
I LOVE WARRIOR PAWNS, they saved my ass so many fricking times and just stagger enemies all the time.
I hire random pawns I find around but probably the strongest party I've had was 2 warriors and a mage that had High Palladium and the Haste thing
had a lot of fun as fighter arisen with warrior main pawn. I'd be taking attention and suddenly my pawn would unleash some big ass move staggering the monster for the entire squad to then beatdown.
I can never figure out what I want to put in my 4th Warrior skill, I got the anti-air shoryuken, the Savage Lash, and the sweep slash
Mountain Breaker
is it really that good vs Gale Slash, or the counter skill?
I dunno I gave it to my pawn and anything weaker than a Drake spends the entire fight on their ass
It's the best stagger in the game, I don't hire warrior pawns without it. Honestly I feel like it's a little OP of a move but I guess that's not a bad thing compared to the entire Thief class.
>give my warrior pawn the boost skill
>she always uses this shit in combat
this seemed nice at the start but feels way less useful later in the game. should i replace it? im already using mountain breaker
I really need to learn what skills the pawns are good with and which ones they don't know how to use.
I really liked using counter slash on fighter but I see my pawn sitting around with it on all the time.
I don't trust the pawns with any of the counter-stance stuff or Ladder Toss
I can't speak for how often they try to use the skills, but they seem to have perfect timing when they do actually decide to use them. Same thing with the mage stuff in my experience. So the pawns in DD2 aren't THAT stupid, but they still obviously need some work.
I don't trust pawns to do anything but basic attacks and skill spams. They don't combo for shit. Except my pawn, who, for reasons I will never know, was the most murderous god damn thief ever. She would see enemies and charge tackle them, slit their throat, helm splitter constantly, climb and weak point exploit enemies, and would frequently kill shit before I had the chance to react. I regret changing her vocation because she never went that hard again after I changed her back.
Watching my main pawn thief at the start of the game tackle and execute goblins was quite a treat. I also love jumping on saurians with the skewer move for fighter and stabbing the absolute frick out of them.
What inclination does he have?
The Thief pawn AI probably knows how to play the class better than most players
Except for the morons who give them the fricking "blow yourself up" skill
pawns learn behavior from their arisens but only if their vocations are the SAME
so the first time you pick your pawn's vocation, it will set at a relatively 'okay' level of 'fighting intelligence'. but the moment you set it to anything else, it goes down to 'dumb as rocks' because the game is expecting you to switch to that vocation and teach them how to play it well. this was the same in DD1, but nowhere is it actually told to the player in DD2.
this is also why hired pawns tend to be fricking moronic.
this isn't true, none of the "PAWNS LEARN SHIT" that people keep spouting is true, this game does not have any kind of refined AI
wrong
and also wrong
>source: my ass
Thats literally every thief pawn. Mine does the same
It's the Straightforward Inclination. Way too many people running melees with Kindhearted inclination because lol Laura Bailey's voice when Straightforward turns them into ruthless murder machines that will heatseek the nearest target to grapple and impale.
My fighter pawn is calm
Mine's kindehearted and does the same. She violently tackles mobs and shanks them. No idea abt va, im using japanese va
Straightforward sounds like Fiora from Xenoblade to me. My pawn in DD1 sounded really similar I must have a type
Straightforward pawns are too sassy in a world where I have to listen for insubordination or risk Dragon AIDS.
Boost is better for reaching places than combat IN DD2 because of what they did to air attacks IMO, but it's good for Thief once you have the upgraded counter-kill that can activate mid-air. Unless you're fighting giant enemies and don't have the augment to make climbing cost less stamina (which thief gets anyway) it's not very useful.
Reminder to run 2 mages/sorcs with ice moves when playing mystic spearhand, that's 4 ice blocks minimum for you to telekenesis throw at a boss!
>do quests in the most logical order
>get locked out of ulrika romance
epic
can you basically equip everything as wayfarer? or is that its own frickin equip class too
>its own frickin equip class too
Wayfarer gets an exclusive equipment menu and can have nine total weapons at once. Could be one from each of the nine other classes, or several from the same class.
Equip any armor in the game
Equip any weapon in the game and 9 equipped at once to cycle through; only the heaviest weight counts
But you can only equip 3 skills, can’t equip master skills, and have bad stats
So if I equip a weapon I get its core skill? I see its use, I'll never have to hire a dumb frick mage ever again.
Yes. You can equip both normal staff and Archstaff, meaning you get Anodyne and Galvanize for free.
Dude why is Galvanize even a fricking thing I can't even fricking cast it if I'm recovering from 0 stamina and by the time it actually casts my stamina is already close to full what the FRICK give me lightning whip Itsuno
It is useful but you need the +max stamina augment. Really you should have that for everything
which one is that again? mage?
Mage gets +Stamina Recovery Augment
Archer gets +Stamina Augment
right right, i haven't tried archer yet anyway so i might as well
You get yourself down to a sliver instead of emptying out all the time
But yeah get a stamina ring and the stamina augment. The ring for 15 seekers medals that gives hp/carry weight/stamina gives a little more stamina than the regular ring does on its own.
You also get to levitate, there is no reason not to carry a staff when using warfarer.
installed a reshade with better lighting
I advise you to do the same
this game has a fricking mud filter instead of the CoD piss filter
it's like an entirely new game with this https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/94?tab=description
use REframework to disable the vignette effect, its fricked and darkens the screen waaaayyy too much
nice, thanks
I feel like I am playing the Trickster wrong. How am I suppose to deal with an Ogre when I cant lead it off a cliff or something
you wait for dragons dogma 3
enjoy.
Pray to god you raised your pawn well. It's meant for people who understand pawn habits and shit, so ideally you want them all to be aggressive so they don't stop to help you and shit, or do other shit midfight, then you use its debuffs and aggro mechanics to lead make the ogre focus on you or your smokehomie
Make it chase your clone as pawns beat it. Throw objects at its head. Having frigor pawns guarantees that you have shit to throw.
Have a better party, ive been doing 3 sorcerers and it seems to work just fine.
The chance you have to set up a looney tunes drop off a cliff with that illusion floor are unlikely, but can be helped along with the other illusion.
>Distract ogre with ghost for a while
>Setup fake floor on edge of a cliff
>Move ghost as close to the real edge as possible in front of the illusion, let the ogre get up on it
>Build a wall and box the ogre in to frick with its pathfinding
>blow smoke at it and hope it either staggers off or willingly walks off on to the fake floor
You use it with warfarer to get the shield out then switch to a better weapon.
AAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME PHAESUS
>kill this Black person during the fight in the tower
>feel bad for him so just revive him
>think nothing of it
>finish game
>true ending credits showing the characters I interacted with live their lives freely in the new world
>sequence with phaesus and this Black person driving a cart. Theres some saurians on the road so Phaesus waked Black person up and points him at the saurians
>Black person sighs and goes to work
Neat details
>pawn won't get off the griffin AGAIN
why is your screen covered in yellow sperm?
i hired a mage pawn in bawdgear that casts semen magic
based bawd enjoyer
shit, meant for
>to me
Try using it
I'm 120 hours in and I think I'm done bros. I have had enough. Ulrika invited me to live with her and I'm never leaving Harve again.
hasn't the game only been out for like 140 hours
Stay away from my beloved wife Ulrika.
How do I trigger the phantom oxcart quest? I've been waiting in west vernsworth oxcart station where I'm supposed to overhear NPCs talking about it but there's not even any NPCs here
You have to do the coronation first.
I've done that and been to the furry city
Furry city is best city, but you can't romance any of the main furry NPCs, so Itsuno can eat a bag full of dog knots.
You can romance Menella, if you do her quests she starts having escort quests and will show up outside your batthal house
There are two, you need to be at the one that goes to rest town.
Yeah, the west one where I am
For me it was like this
>see phantom cart at night
>go to vernsworth
>oxcart rider talks about phantom cart
simple as
> but there's not even any NPCs here
oxcarts leave in the morning do you people pay 0 attention to anything in the game?
subjective but creedbound armor or noble's jacket?
Both look good but I can only really afford one at the moment
Is there a way to increase unarmed damages?
monk in the expansion trust the plan bro
i cant cope any longer...
frick
>like my party to have all different vocations
>it's better to be the same vocation as your pawn so they can actually learn how to fight well
After 40 hours my fighter pawn never grabbed anything since I never needed to as a sorcerer. At least stats are less of a worry than the first game.
Nah they learn shit like that even if you aren't the same vocation
My Warrior pawn got a lot better at fighting Golems after I climbed all over one as a Spearhand
I would still never need to do that as a mage.
How the frick you even damage golems as a caster without Seism?
I had to run away from the one in front of Batahl after I took it off to try some other spells, seems like magic does no fricking damage to the medallions
you do it once and they learn. That's how I did it as a sorc
I think my main pawn got the plague, she's been mouthing off rather frequently.
Can the main pawn ever do that "kills everyone in the city" account-bricking bullshit or just red-eyed hired pawns can?
[x] brine
remember to wash your pawns, anon
The way this is worded makes it seem like a pawn infecting another cures the first pawn. Is that the case?
And does brining the main pawn actually work to cure them?
yes, just toss 'em in the water.
Yes, it works. I hope they make some brine DLC that explains why because the old guy in that one village who brines himself ritualistically is funny.
guy looked like a mystery homie
AAAIEEEE
>main pawn started fricking running
i never need to worry about this because my pawns seem to love brining themselves the second a fight starts
throw them off a cliff
throw her into the brine just in case
His eyes will be literally glowing red and you'll get a tutorial popup if he has dragon aids
The pawns getting snarky isn't it
that only happens once, you know they can get aids again right?
The glowing eyes still happens every time fricktard
what if she wears a helmet?
The ideal party is fighter, warrior, thief and archer.
Begone mages with your black magic sick shit.
>the party that dies to a slime
like almost everything, blades of the pyre on thief one-taps slimes
*blocks your path*
hope you got an enchantment on that sword of yours
>thief activates formless feint and blades of the pyre
Nothin personnel...
Warrior pawns suck fricking wiener. Enemies move way too fast for them and their mediocre positioning means they'll barely ever get a hit in. My main pawn went from carrying my ass as a Fighter to barely managing to hit the broad side of a barn on anything that wasn't a Cyclops.
I've had the opposite experience
Warrior topples everything until they start flying
Wow that's crazy if only pawns had some way to ensure the enemy comes to them
>Bellow/Roar
>Ring of Disfavor
>Subtlety on other pawns/Arisen
People like you shouldn't be allowed to breathe
I literally ran a Fighter with Provocation + Shield Summons and aggro is fricking trash Black person. The enemy stops giving a frick about after you hit them once.
Help anons, the game isn't as inpenetrable as some of you made it seem. Its actually fine and manageable. What am I supposed to do now ? Enjoy it ???
go play ddda and realize it's pretty much better in every way.
I believe and support that you think its better. But so far DD1 (2) is alright for me. I'll go back to the original afterwards.
>isn't as inpenetrable
wtf are you on? This game is dumbed down and reduced like comparing morrowind to fallout 4.
why are you morons pretending 1 was some incassable hardcore game?
IT'S NOT FRICKING WAYFARER
IT'S WARFARER YOU ILLITERATES
W A R F A R E R
A
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F
A
R
E
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for something called warfarer it certainly sucks at war
Frick you that name is moronic
it was called wayfarer when it was revealed which is funny, guess it was a spelling mistake
Warfinder
How much threat is too much? My main pawn is a Warrior and is stacking
>Provocation augment to increase threat
>Ring of Disfavor to increase threat
>Roar skill to taunt enemies
does this have a noticeable difference? with only 4 skill slots I'd like to drop Roar but I feel like it's still needed
I think you only need 1 of those not all 3
Roar probably isn't needed here but I guess it could work on the one enemy who is targeting your mages or archers? You could probably replace it with a damage skill just fine.
is the pawn AI smart enough to use Warrior's couner? right now I'm running heavenward sunder (because frick fliers), mountain breaker (insane stagger), and Gale Slash. If the AI can reliably counterattack I'll switch to that, otherwise what should I use as 4th?
I dunno is it
In my experience they are very good at using it it, they are good at timing it, but they simply don't choose to use it as often as I would like. I assume part of it is that I haven't played the class myself yet, I might just pick it up and spam that for a while to see if it makes my pawn do so as well.
>people wasting their arrow of unmaking on the sphinx
>when she literally tells you how to kill her without flying away
>wasting
moron sis
>moron sis
it is a waste. you can use it on anything else because if you actually pay attention during the fight and attack where the sphinx tells you to she doesnt fly away. go bonk the dragon or something with it
not really a waste when the final boss is a QTE and there's no BBI, what, are you gonna save the arrow for dragon's dogma 3?
>he doesn’t know about the post post game superboss
>he doesn't know about ng++++ post post post game BBI sweet pope and hella dragon 2.0 electric boogaloo
Waste?
What else are you going to use it on?
The guard that keeps throwing me in prison.
>waste
does he know?
What's your ideal skill setup for fighter?
I usually use riotous fury, counter slash and skewer. Not sure what the best skill is for the last slot, thinking either burst strike or the air slash.
Where are your other 4 skills?
gouge
shield bash
counter slash / hindsight
airward slash
Air slash is your best tool against big monsters. It can headshot all of them when positioned correctly. Jump version is good againts small enemies too.
is shield bash good? if it staggers well enough I guess it'd be good to combo with gouge.
It's op against small enemies. Knocks them down really fast and then gouge kills them. Antler toss is better against large foes, but small enemies just die to bash and gouge. Note that the finisher is a better follow up than gouge on weaker enemies.
>winged sallet
>it's a great helm
what the FRICK
Faithful to the original
>Silver Cuirass
>It's a hauberk
It's amazing tbh
Skill Set 1:
>Charged Shot
>Smaller Shots
>Force Throw
>Shield
Skill Set 2:
>Stinger
>That dive attack
>Looney Toons Launch
>Either stamina drain or that thing that charges your vocation skill instantly
>Basic DnD classes still aren't represented
>Tons of shit from the previous games left on the drawing board
>Itsuno: "what if vergil but also silver the hedgehog but also more gay"
>Itsuno hits the chaos boof
>Ano... What if Big The Cat had a goon squad he commanded via weed smoke that's also used to make the enemies have a really bad trip
>How are we gonna make the tripping balls mechanic, Itsuno-san?
>No, I mean they actually trip, like off a cliff, I have severe autism and am incredibly literal.
>Fighter pawns really smart about using launchboard in good situations, and getting me to treasure chests and alt paths
>Warrior pawns think it's a good idea to crouch down in the middle of a goblin fight for 20 seconds hoping you'll bump into them so they can animation lock you into being thrown at the ceiling of the small tunnel you're in
why
>Fighter is a smart team leader
>Warrior is a moronic barbarian
Sasuga
Wakestones work in the Unmoored World right
Yes I have used 6+ falling off cliffs and you can too
I don't see how people even care about the time limit then, you don't ever need to rest
Literally has a party-wide invulnerability bubble that you can repeatedly apply to keep up through a whole fight.
GUYS HELP ME
THE homosexual DUDE COMPLAINED TO ULRIKA AND SHE DISAPPEARED FROM MELVE
BUT LENNEART NEVER GAVE ME THE QUEST, HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY
WHAT DO I DOOOO AHHHH ULRIKA IS MY "BELOVED" I NEED TO COMPLETE THE SPHYNX'S RIDDLE AAAA
Shes in Harve village, moron
use your main pawn
if you use her she falls in love with you and become immune to dragon aids
TURNS OUT KILLING MARTIN BREAKS THE QUEST
BECAUSE OF COURSE ITSUNO DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR US TO KILL THE ONLY PERSON WHO COULD BRING TROUBLE TO ULRIKA, AMIRITE?
On another note, why isn't she with me when I ferrystone back to the Sphynx? I grab her and use the ferrystone. it doesn't work though.
Never had that happen to me. Bug?
Either she isn't allowed to fast travel because otherwise you could break her quest by bringing her to lennart or... Bug
Does offering your main pawn work even if you already have a max affinity character?
For real?
no i made it all up would be cool tho
My pawn refuses to play catch with me.
I can't seem to pick up rats in 2, which is a shame because I spent hours playing ratcatch with my pawn in the first game.
The regular Archer is the most fun class to actually play as.
It's pretty strong but not very fun for me
>Guard captain asks me to talk to a prisoner in the gaol
>The prisoner is standing away from the door so I can't talk to them
>Have to use a key to open the cell door
>All guards immediately aggro on me for this
Kill em, who gives a shit. Not like they give quests or anything.
they don't even do anything. you can run around the palace all you want at night time and the guards won't arrest you or even chase you for more than 5 feet
the entire crime system is entirely worthless and cosmetic
I literally walked out of there with him and the guards didn't do shit
The only time I had guards actually jump me for being somewhere I wasn't supposed to be was when I went in to the forbidden magick lab from the back entrance, for some reason they didn't give a shit when I went in the main door from the palace
>wear guard uniform
>infiltration successful
>touch a cell door
>this alerts every guard to attack me
>open cell door when nobody's looking and walk in
>this is fine for some reason
>escort the prisoner out
>they're also okay with this
this doesn't make any sense
It's the spiritual successor to Mystic Knight. Fans of it think they're insanely technical players but they just spam their one cool trick and pretend they're God's gift to gaming.
The credits in this is so soulless compared to the one in the 1st game.
DD2 could never have this much soul
AAAslop version of a real game made with passion
The soundtrack in DD2 is a big step down from DD1. https://youtu.be/LrgUoeFWNtY
This is my favorite song in the soundtrack, but yeah DD2 music hasn't been very memorable so far.
I'm a bit disappointed with the spooky mist place. It ended up being way smaller and simpler than I thought.
>Colosus moronic cinematic bricked my game and only shows a black screen when it ends.
Amazing.
Don't listen to the brine propaganda and stop tossing your pawn in the water.
I'm not tossing anyone. They keep jumping in by themselves.
Is The Pathfinder supposed to be the same entity as the The Seneschal? Or is it a different thing? Like some sort of Brine God?
>menu logo changes to dd2 once you get the true ending
Based
Whats the true ending I keep hearing about, apparently you can miss the unmoored world by picking the "wrong one" but it comes off as a legit ending.
True ending is getting to unmoored world and saving everyone from the calamity. Everyone now lives freely, after you frick up the Worldwatcher
You have to talk to somebody in the area after the final boss
It's a pseud alchemist for people who never touched DDO, flashy support class.
Bros why is theif so fricking broken op
Because they clearly had favorites when designing classes.
Cause Strider was literally one button babymode in DD1. Helm splitter and gouge do more damage than everything now because Archer is kinda ass with less abilities and Mystic Spearhand is too slow in animation time to out DPS.
I'm just about to finish mage leveling.
Alright bros, how badly did they gimp sorcerer?
It's kinda shit without Meister skills. You essentially spam a worse Comestion, targeted Frazil and a ball of lightning until you get the magick equivalent of a sticky grenade and Seism and both of the meister spells.
So it really does only get worse before it gets better? Rip
At least if it really goes bad I can go back to mage until MA or MS and suck my pawns off since I've heard stats aren't important, right?
MS barely scales your magic and MA is locked behind basically the final area of the game, have fun.
Magick Archer is fun and good, but the game really doesn't want you having it. Basically have to either trek to the end of the game or just not have it most of the game. The worst part is the final Sorcerer augment that boosts magick also fricking sucks this time around.
>gets to teleport around
>big aoe ranged attack
>spammable ranged stun
>build-in weapon enhance
>quick shields
>throw shit at enemies with telekinesis
>throw enemies with telekinesis
>"vocation kinda sucks"
sounds like a skill issue to me, bub
Mystic knight but for gays. even if it's good, it's lame and gay as hell.
What do I have to do for people to hire my fricking pawn? All of my """friends""" pawns are fighters so I decided to make her a Ranger yet I get no fricking hires.
Whats their reward? If it isnt 10k then why would I take them
sorry i only hire warriors and mages, you can teach her elvish i guess that helps a lot.
>make pawn an archer
>immediately stop getting hires
Sorry, people only need 1 archer in their party and my pawn already taken that slot
skill issue
my archer gets a respectably amount of hires
not an ugly meme or a bawd pawn either, just mild minmaxing as god intended
>sorc pawn
>ogre quest with 10k reward
>2 hires over 24h, quest not completed
it's the fricking algorithm all over again
If you hire a pawn, does it stop others from hiring them too? Like could you kidnap other peoples pawns?
I don't hire sorcs because I can't fricking see anything with all the spell effects.
Same. Its especially obnoxious in caves because of how tiny the corridors are. Speaking of which, 90% of the caves in this game suck ass. Very disappointed in the lack of places that felt like true RPG dungeons.
Need more places like this tower. But much longer.
Why don't you like hallway that splits into two paths with a shallow pool of water in the middle of the fork number 28, anon? This one even has a slime stuck in the roof for variety
>going into a tomb in batthal
>a lich appears
>fighting lich
>sorc pawn starts casting a tornado
>lich starts rolling around the tomb hitting the walls and ceiling
>can't see shit
>his 3 healthbars get deleted in seconds
magic is really fun in this games
You make her a healbawd Mage with Celestial Pean, Palladium, Succor and Celerity.
>still wont get hired cause everyone is running full thief parties
if my pawn isn't a warrior I try to hire a warrior. they have innate 400 knockback resist and are hyper-armor tanks with the best stagger ability in the game.
besides that make your pawn visually distinct in some way and not super underleveled.
>Change pawn's hairstyle to the bun with curled front bangs after arriving to Battahl
>Also give her the light based spell because original intention was to make her a priestess
>No hires for over 24 hours
>Change hair back
>Also accidentally leave her as Sorcerer before going to bed because wanted to level vocation
>Come back to game next day
>Two heart ratings and a "bunch of flowers" as a gift
Can i unlock spearhand early if i dont want to do the melve dragon quest
No
>If your mage/sorcerer pawn has high magick attack, they refuse to cast any spells and prefer to just poke enemies with a staff attack every 2 seconds or so
This is so fricking moronic. So you have to gimp your own pawn if you want them to be a strong sorcerer. Does the Magick stat determine spell damage or just the damage of the staff's attack?
I have not seen this with my Sorc pawn at all and she's almost level 50, with the magick boost ring and upgraded gear/lion staff. Although she does use Maelstrom too much for trash mob packs.
It's one of the most stacked vocations. It also gets a literal invincibility barrier for you and any pawn near you. If you want useless look at Trickster.
Trickster aint even useless. Its a literal meme joke tier. Useless is a compliment to it
trickster can slap enemies for money.
>bunch of complete garbage boring skills, the other 10% are OP so just spam them
>all magic is generic dark souks blue flavourless magic with no element
>melee weapons feels likes shit, light attacks do 1 damage each and heavy attack takes about 7 years to complete its animation
>topor blast also feels slow and clunky and has zero synergy with whatever the vocation is even trying to do
>no where near as many skills as MK, classic dragons downgrade 2
the vocations is just unfinished, you can tell it was a last minute addition.
I don't think this is a case of "last minute" I think they intentionally decided to focus on getting the tech and framework and then charge you for DLC to get MK, Assassin, and 6 ability slots + new story just like Dark Arisen.
blast also feels slow and clunky
You know you charge it while you're doing other shit right?
Shits busted by the time the first one wears off you can have another one ready unless you got hit by the slomo monster, and there's no diminishing returns on it
having to hold a should button 24/7 is part of what makes it feel so awful to use
Skill issue
And you don't need to use the slow constantly you have a fricking invincibility bubble
RB is better than the default control being square like Nero in DMC
The magic, while extremely boring to use, is a little more varied than Dark Souls. I agree with the rest of you points.
>topor blast also feels slow and clunky and has zero synergy with whatever the vocation is even trying to do
Itsuno watched a star wars movie and soi faced so he demanded his code monkeys make a jedi class, then when he had his next flash of inspiration the monkeys were moved to another task leaving the class half-baked.
>Yes, this game was finished and has no cut content. Why do you ask?
>Red/ Purple
Demon warrior
>Green/ Blue
Motivated swordman
>Green/ Purple
Martial chirugeon
>what could have been
This is actually depressing.
>but we need to trim the fat!
I don't know why they made trickster or wayfarer instead of fleshing out the other missing slots
i would've sacrifice spearhead, trickster, and warfarer for better vocations. hell frick the archer vocation too
>this guy wants to get rid of my beloved duospear
die
Remove the purple/pink shit that trickster only got because it doesn't make sense as any other color.
We definitely should have advanced green/yellow vocations and 2-3 more hybrids.
trickster can definitely fit as a green/blue vocation
I guess that's the closest thing but it still feels like a stretch. It's much different from all the other vocations.
what's the best spells for a sorc pawn to get hired?
Thief
Wasn't thief AI shit?
casters or archers were the better pawn afaik
>teleports behind u
Pshh, nothing personal, arisen
>helmsplits a chimera in half
*proceeds to formless feint and spams blades of the pyre inside a drake heart*
Thief is by far the most active. Constantly using skills and shanking. Archers seem to just run around too much. Idgaf about sorcs
thief's are top tier pawn ai in my experience, also going crazy or holding down dudes and instaplundering everything
archers will either bunker down and start raping a weak spot for 20 second solid deleting 2 health bars or shoot a piece of terrain the entire fight because the AI can't tell there's a huge rock blocking every shot
no in-between
Thundermine for crowd control, ice for utility, fire for dmg, seism for golems or stunlocks, augural flare for nukes, idk about meteron or the tornado im still trying them out, they take so long to cast even with multicast so idk if theyll be worth it to other people, I think you'll have to teach your pawn how to use it before you send it out with the maister skills
High Hagol and Augural Flare.
This homie got mauled like a fricking pitbull with a newborn child
What are the best skills to give to my fighter pawn?
Shield Bash is great. The spinny shield too, cause it lets them recover from stagger. For me, these two are a must
I only hire thief pawns
Only if they have the steal skill.
>all Black pawns
>theif
>Plunder skill in all slots
Yep, its gaming time
Why the frick can't sorcerers wear certain mage armor? Whose bright fricking idea was this? Mage has higher mag damage by far for 90% of the game thanks to item availability
>Knockers breaking the standing leap world record to fly halfway across the continent, past all 3 of my pawns to bop me specifically in the face
These little fricks are pretty damn annoying if you're not playing a melee job.
Can someone explain the MS bolt>AOE coreskill to me like i'm moronic? It's not functioning the way the game is saying it should, once I hit an enemy with the bolt it doesn't turn into an AOE or spread to other enemies once I tap R1 again
You have to hold it to charge first, release at max charge and press it again when it hit an enemy
You tap immediately when it hits and it does a small pulse
Its not very big so it'll only get clustered up guys, not sure if it's any bigger on a large enemy or something
is it an FPS problem? I do both of these and it just doesn't activate, like shit i can't even use the blink coreskill cause that's a prerequisite
I think you just got the timing wrong, it's really tight. But i can confirm that you can both spread the skill then teleport if you're fast
Remember: press the button only when the skill hit enemy, not before
i dunno its just not working
test
All good on my end boss.
>get to a bridge
>mage pawn in the party asserts that he can help us
>he levitates to the other side of the bridge and stares at us
Thanks dude
it's really silly they don't let them levitate other characters.
I think that skill has been useful exactly once for getting to a chest and even then I found a roundabout path I could have used instead.
I've found I think exactly two places that seemed to require mobility bullshit, though one of them I got in by jumping off one of the battahl ski lifts and the other I had a fighter pawn throw me in
Alright I still have a good amount of shit to do elsewhere but I'd bored to tears of the combat being easy so I want to do volcano content because the enemies there sort of put up a fight. If I do Moonglint Tower is that gonna frick me over? Is it the last mission?
In the same way Deny Salvation in the Greatwall is the final mission, yeah.
>The only Trickster augments that are even tangentially related to combat are about avoiding fights entirely
Wow, they really do not want you using this for anything other than recon and distraction
The fricked up part is that it would be really sick in a co-op environemt, and if the gameplay and level design actually rewarded any of that
Trickster belongs in DDO and Alchemist belongs in this game, change my mind
They'd just end up ruining alchemist in this game, I'd rather my baby stay dead.
Melee vocations got really good shit in this one, I don't know
It's a tank that also has some gimmick skills that make it useful for bullshitting the AI, scouting areas, and buffing/debuffing. That could've been great if they committed to it more and just left it to you to specialize your build, but as it is it's a glorified pawn vocation that was made Arisen-exclusive due to being mechanically weird
Alchemist was also a tank, but with much more engaging skill-based tank abilities, and a long-game that gave it good burst damage potential if you paced yourself properly
its a magic tank. thats it
alchemist's mobility support skills would've been a big help in DD2
They do get a skill that buffs the absolute shit out of pawns. I take it with warfarer since it's such a huge boost.
Would've been cooler if you could use possession on your pawns to give a big buff
Though in warfarer's case that would require them to actually let you use the trickster stuff with warfarer
warfarer with magick bow main weapon, staff backup for anodyne so you don't need a mage and levitate for exploring, then daggers tertiary for quickstep and climbing+twin fangs plus golem hunting.
the MA meister kill is a meme that builds your loss gauge when you use it so not having it isn't an issue, you just spam sagittate avalanche anyways
>Unlock MA Meister
>Equip it just for giggles as a wee level 1 Disciple
>Go test it on the Drake outside of Melve
>Drop to red, release and OHKO it before the skill is even done
Woha mama.
It's a great class but anyone in this thread who claims it is capable of doing good damage is trolling. It is easily the least damaging class of any melee vocation even with a maxed end game weapon and level 10. Compared to anything else it is a joke. I have double mob hp and triple boss hp mods on and I take 150% damage while dealing half and this class is the only one where it feels excessive every other class is capable of building into insane amounts of damage except this. But the aoe shield. The redoubt bolt and the mobility and fun factor are 10 out of 10. Overall it's my favorite class but it is awful in terms of dps. Only the spin to win move does good dps.
>Only the spin to win move does good dps.
>spam square
>stuck in moronic helicopter animation
>can't cast safety bubble
>get kicked in the face
I wish I had never picked up that shitty core skill.
Black person you need to fricking Peace Walker torture sequence button mash to even activate what do you MEAN
Sara is a total babe and I'm tired of pretending she isn't
unironically what were they thinking when they decided to add trickster over other vocation ideas they knew people would actually want
They were probably thinking it was a neat idea, but then they fumbled it harder than V DMCV
trickster should've been able to place traps and shit instead of relying on pawns and gravity
>Pure support vocation
>Not available to pawns
Vocations feel underbaked compared to DD1 and that's probably my biggest issue with the game.
Warrior go brrrr