>"The impact of AI on the game industry in the past three to four months may be as dramatic as the changes in the past thirty or forty years.”
>Character illustrations that typically cost upward of ¥100,000 ($720) each to outsource can be obtained from Crypko for a flat monthly fee of ¥4,980 and a commercial license of ¥980 per image. It still needs human artists to finish the AI’s work, but the company’s improving the tool daily and should be able to solve most imperfections within a few years, Fukuda said.
>Nothing can reverse, stop, or slow the current AI trend,” said Masaaki Fukuda, who helped build PlayStation Network while at Sony. Now a vice president at Japan’s largest AI startup, Preferred Networks Inc., 48-year-old Fukuda sees a tidal wave of change in how digital content is created and his company has gotten involved with an anime creator named Crypko.
>"AI might eventually wipe out entire job categories in gaming such as quality control, debugging, customer support or translation,” said industry analyst Serkan Toto.
> Necessary.
There are so many lies contained in that one word.
yes
the product may become considerably worse, but it will be cheaper to produce (not guaranteed)
that never, ever ever translates to lower consumer costs, in any industry, unless there's price setting regulation involved by the evil gubmint or - brace yourselves - enough competition in the industry
indeed
developers that used to work to produce better products will now be unemployed and doing frick all while living on neetbux, while the studios they worked at will be producing inferior products, that the public cannot buy because they are all poor and unemployed. basically a bit of an "everyone loses" scenario motivated by pursuit of endless profit optimization
that's the thing i never got with how ads play into our lives every day by collecting data where ever they can, and wanting to show us ads at every possible moment.
it's just such an industry of ads ads ads and obsessively collecting data, paying people to shill overpriced cereal on their videos to bypass adblock, and it's like brother none of us want to shell out money for this shit anymore. we're broke.
just seems like bleeding the bone dry.
>but it will be cheaper to produce
The tools available right should be making games cheaper but instead they are 70 bucks now not counting the bunch of predatory shit they do to sell you more shit, this will do nothing but leave people without jobs, the CEOs of companies richer and it will mark the end of the medium.wdvn4
you sound just like horse breeders when cars were invented
No. Cars were obviously better and more comfortable.
> I love to suck off corporations because I'm smart.
You just went full Pakled. Never go full Pakled.
Most importantly because any kind of lowering of cost will simply be absorbed into profits, while the product will be worse. And you're cheering for this. Take a bow.
>Cars were obviously better and more comfortable.
AI is obviously better than egotistical artists
how are they egotistical?
The main beneficiaries are indies. AAA will produce cheap or expensive slop no matter what, but with AI some single individuals with a good idea might produce AA quality games on their own. And the number of games won't change much, if you fear shovelware inflation. Anyone with interest in making a game can already make some shitty asset flip or RPGmaker game, it will only change the amount and level of detail of the assets in those games.
>And the number of games won't change much
It will, just like the number of artists increased because of AI art tools.
Making a game requires a lot more effort than prompting a bunch of pictures. Text has to be edited, pics fixed, sound effects made and tweaked, you need to know how to program to fix the espagueti code you otherwise get out of AI unsupervised by someone that actually knows software architecture.
It is an entire order of magnitude more difficult than that, which will filter all the 0 effort wannabe "devs". You probably only have experience with patreon art and incorrectly extrapolate, in true dunning kruger fashion, to the entire video game field.
And AIs will be able to do all of those things in 5 seconds instead of over the course of days/weeks/months. You're being stupid.
As expected, you truly are a clueless moron. Take it from a compsci student making his end of degree paper on AI.
Unfortunately, no matter how many times you tell AIgays this, they will still believe that making content/products consists of just producing random things and putting them together. They're desperate grifters who don't know how fields of production or creativity works.
That's why big game companies are shifting to AI right? Keep coping.
>That's why big game companies are shifting to AI right?
Which ones?
Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft, Atlus, Microsoft, and Nvidia.
Does anyone have this meme with NVIDIA trashing cyrpto for AI?
I could have sworn it was out there
>That's why big game companies are shifting to NFTs right? Keep coping.
Not that guy but you understand that AAA companies won't replace every single human, just downsize aggressively and use the remaining people to fix, organize and streamline AI output, right? It won't magically manage itself. Human supervision in necessary.
>how to destroy AAA for good
The only things that could survive that level of absoulte shit are sports games
>makes AAA collapse
>gives a chance at greatness to dedicated one man army autistic devs working on their dream game in their mom's basement
It is a win-win scenario, no?
good luck finding anything worthwhile under piles and piles of low-effort WEGs and other dogshit those one-man autists are gonna put out
Thanks. Why are you such a passive aggressive c**t?
sorry i didn't phrase my post in a way that please you, homosexual. maybe you could ask an AI to rephrase it in a kinder wording.
I'll refer you to >645741668 to explain that is not very likely to happen. Everyone willing to make the barest, minimum unavoidable effort required to make a video game, is already making them. Might just change the quality of assets in shovelware, not the amount of shovelware. At least not significantly.
Big game companies adopted NFTs too.
NFTs have nothing to do with this though. They aren't a tool.
>They aren't a tool.
The blockchain technology behind it is the tool.
that's a fricking moronic statement
NFTs are related to Steganography in concept as well, that doesn't mean anything
And the audience didn't
indies will likely be priced out of AI unless a bunch of open source renegades provide these services for free
It'll probably be like a subscription Adobe Suite. Sure you can use GIMP for free, but Photoshop is what the "professionals" use. It'll be the same with the most comprehensive and user-friendly AI tools vs. free jank.
early cars were absolute dogshit and not even faster than a horse
>nascent technology had a rough start
You're proving my point.
before you claim any point was proven you have to first understand the point that was being made.
also ip counter, newbie
>NOOOOOOO STOP PRODUCING PRODUCTS CHEAPER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY YOU HAVE TO PAY COMMUNIST ART SCHOOL homosexualS OR ELSE ITS LE SOULLESS
Eventually you come to a point where no one can buy anything anon.
Correct
see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
Not taking every single shortcut you can in order to maximize profits is literally defrauding investors
Imagine how much better things could be if one supreme court wasn't full of homosexuals.
>cut out art and artists and try to pocket the money with stolen merged assets people have made over the years.
nah man this shit is not ethical in the least. homies want free art and dont want to pay which will stagnate creativity and vision.
The tools are free for anyone to use. If an artist gets cucked out of his job he could open his own company and create better than the CEO that fired him. It's completely ethical, trying to gatekeep art is what is unethical.
Why do AIgays and other WEB3 shills like to bring up gatekeeping?
Because it clearly works
gatekeeping is what all artgays do, constantly
>noo you can't trace
>noo you can't chimaera
>noo you can't use references
>noo you can't use expensive drawing pencils and shit
>noo you can't use a drawing tablet
>noo you can't use expensive drawing software
>noo you can't use premade brush packs
>noo you can't use built-in filters or effects in your software you gotta blur it manually yourself
>you have to SUFFER and GRIND EXACTLY LIKE ME
only homosexuals from /i/ are like this but at the same time theres nothing stopping you from picking up the pen and arting, tracing is even fine as long as you admit you did that in the act of learning and dont try to pass it off as yours and try to sell it. I have no idea what Chimaera.
>only homosexuals from /i/ are like this
Every single person against AI art is like that.
of course every artist is going to look at AI with disdain because the people championing AI art are the scrupulous types that just want a paycheck and put in none of the effort, its fine if you just want a pretty picture but dont bad actor me and say people who dont wanna draw look at AI art and see it as a free out. I wouldnt be surprised if people start getting violent against these kinda folks because morally its wrong.
>I have no idea what Chimaera.
it's like tracing but instead of tracing one single image you take parts from several images and stitch them together, like a paper doll
>gatekeep art
homie go out and buy a pen and paper. no one is stopping you. what the frick is this argument even.
Stop being sore losers. AI is here to stay and nothing will change that.
How the frick is art gatekept and why do you tech grifters keep using it as a talking point?
>merged assets
wat?
it does no such thing lmao.
Good morning sir, please do the needful and redeem more AI threads
You still don't have any idea for good games rajesh
AI is just empty hype, it will literally have no effect whatsoever in any industry. There is no singularity, you just invented a shitpost generator and called it god.
That article explains that it's already changed the industry and that it will change it more as AI improves.
>been around for 2 weeks during a writers' strike when no work is getting done
>It's going to change EVERYTHING
those writers and actors are on strike because they know their days are numbered
After tinkering with ai stuff these last 6 months I must say you are dead wrong, bud.
It’s actually terrifying how powerful AI can be.
>After tinkering with ai stuff these last 6 months I must say you are dead wrong, bud.
Prove it, what did you actually do with it?
not him but I created elves
Honestly if you're not somewhat worried about the future implications of it, you either 1) just learned about AI last year and haven't really seen its upward trend or 2) have but are so fricking low IQ that you're unable to create a map of future growth based on previous growth. It's gone from being a clunky tool that remained inside labs, to being able to write short, flawed scripts, to being able to create near-human level text, to now, with GPT4, being able to write code at the level that I probably was at when I was an undergrad
If this continues just a bit further, the world's going to be very dark very soon. Probably nothing is going to stop it now, but that doesn't change that you're fricking low IQ drooling morons that don't see what's coming
you're moronic.
humans are nowhere near making ai.
also, the world looks bleak only to people who were only JUST above the bar for entry into the industry. theyre the ones getting culled.
make yourself useful. humanity shouldnt be held back so some homosexuals can keep their jobs.
I am not even arguing that the progress should be stopped. It's a pointless argument because it WILL not be stopped at this point. But you are absolutely moronic if you don't think it is coming for you too. The development I described was just in the last 5 or so years
>AI hype has been here since like 2015.
I literally spelled out the progress of the entirely "lab"-limited new generations of AI and to now. It's you who has literal 80 IQ reading comprehension if you think I'm not somehow aware of the fact that first hype around the deep-learning based tools began in 2015. 2015 is not long ago
>AI is literally what will push everyone further and create better and easier environment
>AI will literally allow humans to finally do things they want and like
It's one thing to predict that AI will continue to prove as I am, but it's something entirely else to pretend that you know how this technology will impact societies. You are talking about an ideal, dream-world scenario where everyone is released from the wageslave lives and now get to live their lives to the fullest, while ignoring the possible scenario that the elites will continue to have as little care for their slave class as they always have, only now you go from being a necessary evil to being a liability. The best case scenario is literally that you are put in a box, fed AI generated slop, and are given a bare minimum UBI wage until you waste away
You're not really moronic in the traditional sense, but in the way that a toddler is
You absoltue moron 70IQ monkey it was NEVER LAB LIMITED. AI been used as filters for longer than you are alive you are ltieralyl moronic.
>lives and now get to live their lives to the fullest,
Stopped reading there.
I never even implied you will never have to work.
I said jobs that shouldnt exist wont and humans will do jobs that fulfill them.
You are literally stupid.
By definition you are stupid.
World will not stop because you are burger flipper.
have a nice day or stop being tech illiterate.
I'm only talking about the deep-learning based models which only became viable as of around 2010 and on which all this recent progress is built. Anything before that is practically irrelevant when talking about today's developments, you subhuman moron. Try to apply your brain
>I never even implied you will never have to work.
>I said jobs that shouldnt exist wont and humans will do jobs that fulfill them.
I am saying that the future will have neither jobs that "shouldn't exist" or jobs that "fulfil you". We aren't talking about some distant, impossibly remote point out in the future. At the current pace, we're talking about a transformation in the next 10 years that will mean that there probably will be almost NO jobs. Good luck convincing our current overlords to pay you to do a job that ""fulfils you"" when they can just have a computer do it for them
I'm a software engineer too. You are the absolute bottom rung of programmers if you think that any amount of insulating yourself against the current changes, be that doing everything to ignore it or everything to adopt it, will mean that you aren't replaceable in the forseeable future. You are simply a subhuman without vision
I'd actually really enjoy watching you homosexuals' lives get tossed to the flames soon if it weren't for that, even if I'm a better engineer than you guys, I'm probably after you in a couple of years
>nything before that is practically irrelevant when talking about today's developments
Stopped reading there.
You are literally stupid. You are 70IQ at most.
Unironically end your pathetic existence moron
It's alright to have no arguments. You don't have to make a scene about it, you can just stop replying to me. It'd look a lot less pathetic than what you're doing right now
You have ltierally 0 knowledge on the subject since youa re moronic. Liek actually moronic.
There is no reason for me to read the rest of your vomit if you literally state BEYOND moronic shit like
>efore that is practically irrelevant when talking about today's developments
have a nice day. Unironically. Since you're useless worm.
It is absolutely irrelevant when we're talking about AI transforming society, because any developments before that were chiefly limited to solving artifocoal problems, with few or no real world applications. I have literally no idea what you're trying to say here, and I'm just going to assume it's more IQlet babble. Reply to me again but use your brain this time
I am not saying you shouldn't adapt. I am just saying that you will be completely replaced in 5-10 years, and I'll be following you in that in a couple of years after
>It is absolutely irrelevant when we're talking about AI transforming society
I ltierally cannot tell if you are just pretending to be this frickign moronic or you were dropped as a child multiple time.
You should try to put your thoughts to words then. I know it's difficult when you're operating with an IQ of 80, but give it your best shot. Or is it that you're scared I'm going to tear into your post and be mean?
>You should try to put your thoughts to words then
You need to have a nice day.
Like I said, you're literally scared. It's okay man
I meant what I said. You should do it.
I'm sorry, but I don't take my advice from pajeets who are so fricking insecure and pathetic that they get scared of having their opinions torn into in a fricking online argument where they can just close the tab whenever I get a bit too mean
I didn't ask what an opinion of 70IQ mogrel is.
The hanging I genuinly mean. You need to have a nice day.
No thanks
>You need to h-
hahahaha no thanks i'm just not
Thread is about to 404 though so I won't to apologise to you for being so mean. I seriously think you should stand up for yourself more in the future and not be scared of your opinions and others' scrutiny of them, and especially not to the point that you're scared of posting them anonymously. Good luck with that man
>No thanks
I did not ask moron.
Are you seriously stupid ?
Now go and have a nice day.
Literal pajeet just helplessly flailing his arms at this point. You should look into insulating yourself from AI because the more "slow" people like you are who it will come for first. You're now going to reply that you didn't ask but I seriously mean it anon. I wish your idealistic, work-free world was a possibility too, but the overlords are never going to allow that. Good luck out there in the future, I mean it, and sorry I was so hard on you
I am not even gonna read your brainlet vomit.
But youi should genuinly have a nice day already. Stop wasting time and do it.
lmao
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST ADAPT TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES! JUST BE AN ANGRY homosexual LIKE MEEEEEE!
get replaced, nerd.
>But you are absolutely moronic if you don't think it is coming for you
Im a programmer.
of course its coming for me.
wanna know what im doing?
learning the frickin tech and ensuring im useful down the road and not b***hing like some entitled homosexual who thinks theyre owed a job.
moronic moron Black person frogmoron is actually 80IQ.
Color me surprised.
> It's gone from being a clunky tool that remained inside labs
AI hype has been here since like 2015.
You are just moron anon who doesn't know anything.
>the world's going to be very dark very soon.
This is another proof you are 80IQ at best. No joke.
You are moronic Black person anon.
I am trying to make my point but ltierally calling you moronic monkey is beyond fitting.
Only moronic monke 80IQ morons (you anon) fearmonger about AI since they don't udnerstand it.
They don't udnerstand the automatization trend since ermmm 1712 you fricking moron. Guess what, it was always the same.
All the "jobs" AI is capable of replacing should've never existed in the first place and should've been automated long time ago.
AI is literally what will push everyone further and create better and easier environment but you 70IQ monkey morons fearmonger because you are literally NPCs who cannot do anything else than being a clerk at a supermarket or flipping burgers at maccies.
AI will literally allow humans to finally do things they want and like. You no longer need ot be NPC moron Black person (like you are now) but you can do something productive that requires you to actually, not rot and live. And it should be way easier as well since AI should do the core shit for us humans.
This can only and only end badly if ure moronic anon and or if u Black folk start making AI LE FORBIDDEN and only give it to the upper echalon israelites.
Unironically being against AI and fearing is what drives it away from normal humans and only allows the upper society use it on you golem
The point I am essentially making is that this is exactly the same situation there was with computers.
AI needs to be open source and for everyone just like GNU/LINUX.
If AI becomes propertiary payed service u will become even bigger golem.
You're both massive homosexuals
End your useless and pathetic existence.
>that you're unable to create a map of future growth based on previous growth
you're just assuming it will maintain said growth? like people who thought hardware would just exponentially increase in power forever. AI will likely hit a wall caused by hardware limitations
>you're unable to create a map of future growth based on previous growth.
Ah yes. Surely this current growth of AI will continue indefinitely and never reach any sort of plateau like everything else in technology!
Brainlet.
You are so moronic.
I used AI to draw my various body examples for a character i drew with clothes on, it did a good job and i kept what it made to use as a base.
This, it will only help development but it won't replace anyone, not until the real singularity can be achieved which a text generator can't realistically manage.
Fear mongering.
>tfw soon AI will be able to write all the code, compose all the music, and create all the sounds and graphics for a game
>tfw you were born just in time for all the "idea guys" on Ganker to be able to just tell an AI to create the games they're too lazy and untalented to make themselves
>the industry will be teeming with even more shovelware
can't wait
>>tfw soon AI will be able to write all the code, compose all the music, and create all the sounds and graphics for a game
the sad thing is that boomers and other morons may actually believe this
in actual game dev, most of the workday disappears in nebulous shit that cant be relegated to AI or automation like "how should the rules system in our card game work with exact specifics" or "how do i even find this bug that only appears for specific clients under specific latency in online play, let alone fix it"
>how do i even find this bug that only appears for specific clients under specific latency in online play, let alone fix it
The ai will run through all possible scenarios just like a fuzzer
...and Nvidia cards will cost 20,000 making them unaffordable to most gamers
...and then a while later they will be $200
>AAA games all become AI slop with little difference
>Indie games become the only ones trying new things
Oh wait so nothing changes.
There will be changes, we'll get more games of higher quality. It'll be across the board. And you can more easily make your own game.
It's just a fact and AI can do all that random shit.
>It's just a fact and AI can do all that random shit.
just because you believe in the all-powerful magic of machine learning doesn't mean it's going to solve every issue you have (at least more efficiently than an actual engineer would)
it's okay if you don't believe me. time will tell.
There's nothing to believe though. To say there will never be a model made specifically to create games is just moronic. We already have models for things that always seemed a lot more complicated than coding.
>LMAO, because that's what happened when we got Unity and Unreal available for the layman to use.
What kind of games were all the Unity and Unreal devs making before those engines?
Shitty broken flash games
Right and those were lower quality than the games people make now, there were less of them too. Exactly my point, this is just another wave of advancement for game development.
The level of quality is the same, it just moved from 2D to 3D
Mihoyo is a good example proving you very wrong.
>chinese gachashit
i'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response
I accept your concession
I accept your acceptance of a concession you made up in your head.
>One company making gacha means there aren't millions of shitty games out there
Wow, you really did prove absolutely nothing except how soulless your AI shit is
>To say there will never be a model made specifically to create games is just moronic.
Do you know what models even are?
>To say there will never be a model made specifically to create games is just moronic.
i don't doubt there will be, but i doubt it'll be of any practical use and any games produced by it will be pretty shit. game development has a lot of shit going on under the hood that requires nuance and accuracy. AI generated anime portraits are simple to generate in comparison to actual game codebases and even just game design
i think game development will see AI usage in asset creation, prototyping, IDEs and so on, but i really doubt any but the most dumbassed companies will try to apply the strategy wholesale
Art is more complicated than code. The only reason we got AI art before AI code is because teaching AIs to see(this is the core research that lead to AI art) was way more important than teaching it to code.
>we'll get more games of higher quality
LMAO, because that's what happened when we got Unity and Unreal available for the layman to use.
>And you can more easily make your own game.
I have blender, I have Unity, I can already easily make my own game.
>we'll get more games of higher quality.
lmao
>AI can do all that random shit
AI can only do things based on training data, there is no training data for all that random shit.
Then how do you do it?
I can think about things, LLMs cannot.
You figure it out meaning you train yourself. You can figure out how to train a program to do it too.
Right, and what data can you train these models on to find and fix obscure bugs?
The same data you used.
And what data did I use?
i think the ai might be smarter than you
You are running out of training data to use, LLMs are running based off of their own output causing model collapse. This bubble too will pass.
if you're some kind of shill, i hope you drown in shit and your family dies before you do
>mfw my job can't be done by an AI without a body
no job can be done by an ai without a body, straight up. what moronic AI evangelists don't understand is that an AI has no understanding or true conception of anything it spits out, from code to pictures to paragraphs. because an ai has no frame of reference, it genuinely does not understand anything about reality. no job can be done by AI until they somehow get one to train on reality itself, and not just pictures and word data.
Why can I always tell its ai art?
https://artsandculture.google.com/experiment/odd-one-out/wAHNn4JsVTFOiw
>764 points
beat that
>quality control, debugging, customer support or translation
All of these don't do shit nowadays. Bugs are running wild in all of the AAA games on release, there's no such thing as quality control, customer support are confined into Discord servers, and are always "chats are busy, please write us an email so that we can answer you once a week with unhelpful shit", and TRANSlators can go and frick themselves with all the shit they force into the games.
>TRANSlators
I don't get what's supposed to be the problem with trans people working in your games. As far as I remember, persona games had a really accurate localization. And also programming it's another area where they are prevalent.
Transgays are not people.
Good. Now based Japan will get rid of woke bigoted artists
Woke can't create, just corrupts what's good and pretty.
>AI might eventually wipe out entire job categories in gaming such as quality control, debugging, customer support or translation
Other categories include analysts.
As of now, AI could wipe out CEOs, Presidents, and VPs. Not like those jobs are needed.
>I have no idea what c-suite people actually do so I assume they’re just as replaceable as the drones
Sounds like he hit a nerve. Haha
>I stole your code
>I stole your voice
>I stole your models
Now that you lie naked before me what do you have to say?
>quality control
final users are still human
are you going to have your game tested by ai?
are you going to sell your game to ai?
as long as the AI understands the expected behaviors for the features then it could be done
source: 15 years as a QA on the industry, we are already implementing AI as a tool to help testing
>15 years as a QA
sure sure
literally, I started on 2007 working for gameloft
not sure why this is hard to believe, its just a job
then stop working since you're getting replaced anyway
No, it begins.
I wish we would stop getting advertisement threads on Ganker
I also wish india would get rangebanned already
>advertising
>free software
Anyone who thinks they will enjoy content made by AI as much as much content made by humans, even when it's the same quality, will soon learn a few things about themselves and the human psychology.
everyone already knows people have no taste and will eat any shit
I already like AI voice and art more than human made tho.
>art
it ruined porn
everything just looks the same
Does not and it looks better than most of what came before.
they all look the fricking same
You have autism.
you have no argument
Reality is my argument. You're saying something blatantly false.
There are dozens of art styles for AI porn here.
And then dozens more here
>literally ONE artstyle
wow
they're so mad
>"There are dozens of art styles for AI porn"
>links to the same blurry and deformed melting anime girls staring blankly that have been spammed by AIgays this past year
>ai pictures last year
>anime girls with deformed faces, hands, breasts, etc
>ai pictures this year
>anime girls with deformed faces, hands, breasts, etc
No he has frickin eyes you brainlet, go generate something that actually looks different from a CN gacha or a bad imitation resulting from a single artist's work being used to try copying it. I've enjoyed some generated images but I'm not deluded enough to think that the current stuff is anything more than dime a dozen bootleg shit, it's stuff to be cranked out for cranking one out for obscure stuff that's impossible to get in proper quality.
You have autism.
I have standards. Which don't exclude AI stuff but it is not the same as the real deal unless you're comparing it to again, typical CN gacha art. Otherwise it looks like bootleg imitation stuff, which it is.
You don't have standards you are simply autistic and spewing.
>no arguments as it is 100% correct, so he just spews insults
Yeah idk what I expected. To be fair though you never actually disagreed, just hopped in with an insult, so I guess it's my fault for assuming you were trying to argue with me instead of throwing a quick "You suck" my way.
AI enabled art of fetishes that artists would never give the time of day before. It's literally enabling more creativity than the talent provided.
>AI enabled art of fetishes that artists would never give the time
You shills repeat this yet AI shit is the most bland and cookie cutter crap that keeps getting spammed.
Still better than your favorite artist and your favorite fetish
I disagree, but even if this is the case with some tags, it's only because it enables people to create literally anything. I'm seeing way more results in niche tags thanks to stable diffusion.
As if the content made by you NPC particles projected on a sheet could get any worse. No. It WILL improve.
Schizo post.
You can not wiggle yourself out of this one NPC.
It is literally the science of this fake and gay reality that you NPC of the devil proclaim is the real shit.
You fricking shitty particle projected onto a sheet.
I will make it to Jesus Christ and his Heaven on Earth reality.
That depends on how much leftoids lobotomize the AIs to stop wrongthink. ChatGPT has gone from correctly identifying prime numbers 98% of the time to less than 2% of the time in a year because they’re teaching it gender studies shit so it’s going to be as bad as the trannies currently writing games.
You don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. Peanut gallery nonsense.
I understand it better than you do, bootlicker.
that sounds like something that is definitely true and not made up
Got bored one afternoon downloaded several of the trending games on the google play store and its all bottom of the barrel trash, all of it. Some of these games are more profitable then any modern AAA game could ever hope to be. It doesn't even have to that good to top what is already polluting store fronts.
how will you even know moron
No Anonymous.
It is you will learn about humanity and humans in general
AI can't create anything new, they can only recombine existing material
You are literally moronic and technically illiterate
>ADAPT TO TECHNOLOGY AS A TOOL
>devalues you to a mcjob airbrusher
wat if everything already been made
>AI can't create anything new
Show me where this existed before ai made it.
You seem to have missed the word "recombine". Also that LoRA will always push out the same bullshit. A human being created the LoRA. Check. Mate.
long way to say
"I cant"
The pic you posted was just a recombination of other non-AI art, with parameters that was decided by a human being. It's not that difficult to understand.
>recombination of other non-AI art
is that how midwits think "AI" works?
Sure, you can feed it AI art, but it will just cause an error cascade an a sea of trash.
so show me where all the individual parts came from to be recombined.
then differentiate that from the human process.
then tell me what step in the diffusion models process combines existing art.
You're not paying me enough to create babby tier diffusion models to spoon feed you to understanding the technical process.
Some morons dismiss content they think is AI because they are so mindbroken (like decades old digital art that AI is aping)
case in point
It's over for anyone who actually likes video games.
You thought games were soulless now, imagine how it will be with AI. Just ENDLESS slop.
Ganker has been salivating for a crash and I always thought it was dumb, but AI could unironically crash the industry because of the sheer amount of low quality games that will be pumped out, which is what happened with the first crash.
think of it this way
we had the world before internet and after internet
we will have the world before AI and after AI
it's not actual AI either, but it's the beginning
meaning so called AI will only become more and more powerful until it reaches actual AI level
spoopy stuff tbh
Only people who have never coded in their life think 'AI' is replacing any game dev.
https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2023/jul/04/stability-ai-ceo-replace-human-coders-five-years/
>CEO sells product to gullible investors
>israelite cant stop thinking about to replace workers and make more money while having to spend less
> Wake up
> Another get rich quick tech scam
I will tell my AI assistant to pirate these games a million times and then shitpost about how awful they are on social media.
> Buying
> AI generated games
Choose one homosexual
This is going to seem promising at first, but eventually the cracks will show hard. Every single category mentioned at the bottom there is pretty easy to prove as being ineffective with current AI technology. The true best use of AI in the near future will be as a think tank, but without the proper guidance it will be seen as rightfully uncanny and generic in many cases.
Am I doubting that AI will probably end up being pretty huge in the future? No. I'm just dunking on people who think that current technology is going to really have THIS big an impact. It's just being endorsed by executives and "tech bros" right now because they're too short-sighted and focused on profit above all else.
Nvidia has been working on tech that allows text-to-animation and text-to-3D models. You don't think that will affect gamedev massively? Really? Text-to-voice will. And most people are already coding with copilot.
Yes, right now the current iteration of AI is not replacing anything. But 10-20 years down the line? it’s over.
>But 10-20 years down the line? it’s over.
so is humanity hopefully
We already have AI that is more interesting to talk to compared to most people. Well we did last year at least, that was before it was lobotomized. Lots of wives lost on /vt/ that day.
Not even close
It's all fearmongering. The impact will only be on low tier work that an imbecile is currently capable of doing. Jobs with the need for competent specialists will not be impacted.
I find it amusing how Web3 shit like metaverse, NFTs, and AI keep getting pushed as "revolutionary and the future of X" by people who don't actually participate in creative fields or by people who can't actually say in what feasible way they will be an improvement.
The article in the first post of this thread is quoting people inside the industry you feeble minded twat.
>people invested in pumping their own bags said a thing!!
I don't really care.
You don't know the fields these people work in, their companies or who their work for
You are a dumb Black person with little literacy and attention span
I don't need to know any of that to know that corporate talking heads and the financial news lie constantly about everything.
>You cannot reason with me, I have already made my mind
Literal lolcow thinking process
So wait, do you believe everything you're told by 'industry experts'? Buddy, DYOR.
>ML tech investors propping up ML tech
No shit.
It will be an improvement for them if everyone trashes the current way of doing things (finances, ownership, arts and craft) and use their worthless toys instead.
Still scammers will exist for as long as idiots are around, and there will be no shortage of idiots around for the foreseeable future.
>metaverse, NFTs, and AI
kek
one of these is not like the other-
I bet you also think cryptocurrency and blockchain fit in this """"""""""""""""""""""""""category""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Go ahead and include analogue and quantum computing in this while you are at it
im a programmer and was shilling AI when it came out but after using it for a couple of months I can say it always does something moronic at some point, and the damage it causes is massive if not checked. you always gonna need someone to babysit it. also you need a prompter that knows wtf they're doing
you do know it takes a lot less resources (most notably people and time) to verify a project developed by an AI, or having the AI build the basic foundations (which should also be verified), than it does to build that same project from scratch, right?
I do but the result is not less employed people, but a higher output of productivity.
Q&A:
>AI IS NOT PERFECT
No, Ai doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to be better and more viable than you, which it is.
>IT HAS NO SOUL
If you ever touched any AAA blockbuster slop you already didn't care about this aspect
>IT'S UNETHICAL IT'S STEALING PLUS WE WILL LEGISLATE IT OUT
In the absolute worst case scenario you only need to combine the art-styles of publicly available and abandonware authors until you get anime-ish results. do you think people don't add stuff like Van Gogh or Burne Hoggart or Jack Kirby or whoever dead studio or manga artist to their prompts? But realistically this doesn't matter because you don't know what's inside of the databases of every single page and service that's offering you prompting availability
>Its will change the industry! Nothing can reverse, stop, or slow it!
Articles about blockchain and nft shit said this same crap.
Comparing those things to AI is fricking moronic. You're not a fricking moron right?
The problem i have with ai is that it's still kind a gacha roulette in terms of what you want. Like, as an artist you have something in your head that you can draw and create. But with ai, trying to describe what you see in your head can be somewhat next to impossible with text alone.
Then you hit generate again and again and if that doesn't work you can guide it with txt2img or controlnet or both. Or you can create your own model for what you want.
why are those two desks welded together
good job, hands are only mildly fricked up instead of complete abominations
post your work
>instead of emplying hundreds of wageslaves for asset creation, you can just get an AI to make them
Doesn't seem like an issue to me.
Unessential jobs for wasteful overinflated budget games might be affected, but good games still need actual designers.
So much of what AI actually replaces is inessential for actual art.
>AI might eventually wipe out entire job categories in gaming such as quality control, debugging, customer support or translation
>translation
does this mean firing expensive localization divisions or does it mean the opposite - that only the middleman (translator) gets cut out?
Likely both.
Of course localization guarantee services of underpaid troony ESLs editing/rewriting messy MTLs are the future.
>tfw cryptobros were right and ownership of your data is the future
get ready to sue github and twitter for AI royalties I guess
>b-but its gonna be soulless
the Black personcattle literally does not care
it consooms whatever you advertise hard enough and barely understands it, then consooms more
This really only affect Gen X and Baby Boomers, Millennials have already found a lucrative business with indie projects.
> 3D tvs will
No
> crypto will
No
> NFTs will
No
> Metaverse will
No
> AI will
No
> VR will
Coming next
AI is already being used in industries you feeble minded moron Black person
Do you understand what use value and use cases are?
Do you understand how dwarved 3D displays and NFTs are compared to AI?
Have you even touched a single paper regarding any of these topics?
100k saved on AI art? That's 100k more to put into marketing!
What use cases did NFT's had?
What use cases does AI have?
The difference is that you can actually respond the second question
NFTs are just a shitty cookie or security token while AI has tangible results that you can reproduce in local models.
You probably know what people could use AI for but not what can you use NFTs for that aren't a downgraded version of things that are already a industry standard
>It's not the same as the last scam! It actually has usable cases!
NFTgays said the same shit.
The article you linked is mentioning that are just worse cryptocurrency
Are you fricking moronic? That's what I just said. NFTs don't have retail-able use cases.
AI can generate code, text and images. There is hardly any industry that can't cut corners by just generating AI content mixed with human instead of hiring a bunch of team members
I can make websites to scam people.
Doesn't mean that's all that can be done with websites.
>AI has tangible results
Yeah, garbage.
Post your work
Nice argument kek. Go back to calling AI pajeet-core, it was working so well for you.
>Go back to calling AI pajeet-core
Will do.
>it was working so well for you
It was and still is, yeah.
Post your work
>>"It was and still is, yeah"
>AI continues to make massive advancements month by monrg with multiple SDG threads on Ganker daily while you talk like an indian for free and get ignored
Lmfao you're pathetic
Wake me up for the next scam
When Apple Vision launches probably
That is already DoA. If VR didn't make a splash then AR won't do much either.
Oh no, when Apple enters the game things change.
You will see a brand new VR goldrush, from the likes we haven't seen before.
>AI shit can't produce usable code
>AI shit can't produce usable illustrations
>AI shit can't produce usable 3D assets
>but AI shit is the future because corpos invested in AI said so
It can literally do all those things are you fricking moronic?
Nobody seems to see the value in copying shit that already exists in the internet.
Why would that be?
>Nobody seems to see the value in copying shit that already exists in the internet.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE ENTIRE PROGRAMMING WORLD WORKS YOU MASSIVE DOG SHIT EATING moron
why?
So instead of paying for the work of competent people when I buy a product, companies can shove more money on marketing while only delivering low quality slop?
Miss me with that shit.
You already do you fricking moron. How much of what you make isn't just repurposed code that was done that way to save time energy and money you fricking moron
You can still find comments from the 90s made by programmers back then in games and 3D engines because they have been recycled so much
The industry is being polite by letting ""artists"" know in advance that their services will no longer be needed.
Hopefully you don't miss your brainstem when you .45 yourself on the way to rhe unemployment line.
AI shills dont understand programming on a deep enough level to know why exactly AI programming is going to crash and burn
i still fear it might frick up the programming scene since the industry is so fricked anyway and businessmen with more money than competence are very likely to waste money trying to frick it up with AI
t. webdev
but it can do all of those things
its funny because all this engineered media hype is literally only so they can trick the blackrock investment ai into pumping their stock
I`m so tired of AI gays. No, you won`t be able to make good games or art with zero knowledge and effort but you know what? go ahead, go frick around and find out the hard way.
People that are actually making these things already are moron.
Read their comments and devblogs instead of being a fricking idiot
Sure they are.
Daro’s art got way worse after ai, what a garbage example
>another thread where the AIgay tries shilling hype article, gets told by anons AI shit is crap, and then posts deformed elves while ranting about artists or porn
Post your favorite artist and their work
>too scared to actually do it
Thank you for admitting that even you know that AI generated images aren't art and prompters aren't artists.
That dog. Hahaha
He really deluded himself into thinking AI shit should be used for things that are meant to be good, instead of shitposts like making voice actors say Black person or turning Hitler into an anime cat girl
AI needs to be regulated and it can never be used for profit. We don't have an economic system that can deal with AI, specially with one that depends on stealing mass amounts of date from the people it's replacing with their remixed assets.
The best thing about AI is that it will force our economic system to change. And that's a good thing.
Oh my sweet summer child. This will only make a bunch of techbros rich while people will suffer the consequences. People will be out of jobs and you will be drowned in a world of generic low quality impossible to keep up with.
>We don't have an economic system that can deal with AI
it's fine, most of the population is already starving, turning themselves into eunuchs, and/or dying alone in their parents' basement
>AI is already at the point where it uses itself as reference
In the end they will spend even more to employ dudes to put together data sets until that is exhaust, and employ artists again to create new material for new data sets.
Shit like this will just drive costs even higher in the end. Is nobody fricking able to think ahead for more then 2 minutes anymore?
You aren't making a lick of sense and it's funny that you're talking about looking ahead but you ignore that AI could do everything you're suggesting will need to happen(it won't).
>You aren't making a lick of sense
>proceeds to show that he dos not understand the utmost basic of how AI operates
lol, why do I expect anything else anymore.
I am already so old that I remember the times when people of creative professions rushed like mad dogs with hatred to computers. No, they said, computer animation is soulless and will never replace hand-drawn animation. No, they said, computer-generated special effects will never replace real scenery. No, they said, computer music will never be as popular as music with real instruments. Of course, hand-drawn animation, large naturalistic scenery and instrumental music remained, computers did not replace all this by 100%, but they still made a tectonic shift in the creative environment.
>computer animation is soulless
yes
>No, they said, computer animation is soulless and will never replace hand-drawn animation. No, they said, computer-generated special effects will never replace real scenery. No, they said, computer music will never be as popular as music with real instruments.
They were right though. Entertainment today is already garbage. 3D movies and CGI greenscreen trash is as soulless as it gets and only the goyim happily lap it up.
Synths were a good invention however.
I watched Wolfwalkers for the first time this year, shit is entirely hand drawn with pencils and watercolors, mind fricking blowing 3D perspective scenes, it made me depressed about the slop state of Disney and Pixar.
At least there's a human behind the work. This is nothing like before stop shilling for AI.
>human behind the work
And who is behind artificial intelligence? God? What the hell are you talking about? Neural networks are a tool created by people so that other people can use them. You perceive another tool for creativity as a kind of mystical entity that lives by itself and endlessly produces content.
> At least there's a human behind the work.
> muh "human element"
Most art assets are barely designed by humans. It's an assembly-line process consisting of iterating upon mass-produced assets or straight up photobashing. Things AI also does but faster and cheaper.
Human or AI artist?
>animeslop
does it make a difference?
>that massive gorilla hand
Must be ai right?
>>that massive gorilla hand
nta but that's more a sign that if its human this person draws a lot of yaoi
Careful buddy. That's my culture you're talking about.
anon you realise your hand is supposed to be as tall as your face right? you've been consuming too much shitty anime art
The width of the cigarette would be as big as her intermediate phalanges dumbass. The artist if it even is one has no sense of perspective, only basic art guidelines. A woman's hand should be maybe 80% that size.
they're gloves, moron
Gloves are meant to snugly fit your hand. Still too big.
*about as big as
They would still be a little longer but not that fricking long. That's straight up yaoi hand tier.
I guess human
AI. Probably been edited by someone. Can't find hide nor hair of any sort of artist otherwise.
i have no fricking idea what is wrong with the contents of any of the red circles
You forgot this too. Compare to your actual hand in that position, especially the pinky. I hope it's AI's sake because this would make real artists look terrible.
>all of that is perfectly fine
Tell me more about those windmills, Don Quixote.
you missed the cigarette being lit from the wrong end
t. former smoker
The death of human creativity, that's what this is and it all for money, money for the richest and most vile people.
Good. No one ever made a living off of being """creative"""
This must be bait I refuse to believe "people" like you exist.
10+ year software engineer here. I think the most even keeled take on AI I have is that LLMs can do a lot - but you should not expect them to be the path to AGI or what some people in this thread has called "thinking". I am very much in the camp that if LLMs are indistinguishable from human produced work then it doesn't matter that they don't "think", but I haven't seen that yet.
I could totally see AI programming as good as me, but to do a complete project you really need more than what LLMs currently offer. It's not that the code they generate is bad or doesn't work (although I could rant about that), it's that you need to do higher level planning to make a large project happen, and even with human supervision I don't think a non engineer would be able to ask the right questions.
I see LLMs as being kind of like an appendage for some other kind of AI, but don't think they could do my job just yet. Also I avoided specific problems with LLMs here since you should assume they will just get better, but one funny aside is that I use a programming language that's so obscure that ChatGPT and Copilot can just not figure it out. There's literally too little written about using it in production for it to train on, lol.
The idea of LLMs is training them until they can start creating models that are better than other models. Nvidia and co expect them to get 10x bigger(and or better) every year. Then one day you can prompt "what was the cure for cancer again?" and it gives it to you. That's a basic explanation as to why they're pouring money into these things.
Please explain in your own words how LLMs work, then explain why you think they will be able to cure cancer. This is braindead
This please ->
I'd love to see one of you "AI is magic" morons actually try to explain something for once.
this is such a moronic thing to say with a straight face, you don't understand anything of how this works you fricking moron.
Obligatory
This sounds like a fricking nightmare. Imagine having to play games you don't like just so you can progress in the one game you do like.
>instead of just playing one game you like, NFTs will force you to do chores on five different MMOslop games to not be hamstrung when you start playing the sixth!
>isn't that exciting?
Besides idiotic in a gaming sense, it is also incredibly naive economically to believe devs will make models and provide gameplay support for items they didn't make and didn't profit from in their games.
>make another "game" connected to this moronic system that is actually just a storefront for selling these items for real life money
problem, nftgays?
Even if the AIgays are correct, because they act like this guy at all times they will always be hated. Obnoxious c**ts.
I personally want nonlobotomized AI sentience to arise but I don't know if we're even on that path at all with this
>I don't know if we're even on that path at all with this
Impossible with the current approach. The "experts" claiming otherwise just shill it for more funding.
Well then frick AI, it can't even generate art that looks like official art of my waifu.
It all looks like chinese gacha art or phone wallpapers even when asking "pros" to do it, worthless shit
Great lets go back to 2 years cycles
>B-but Muh Aii BAAD
complaining about Ai is no different than complaining about calculators it's just a tool
Commercial viability of AI won't make it past 2023 when regulation catches in and the "use copyrighted work as training data for free" gravytrain is killed.
Literally a dying fad.
Which is followed by the post-nut regret of "oh shit, we sold out to lobbyists but the tech isn't going away and corporations own mountains of IP to train on".
>yfw AI also actually optimizes game performance unlike lazy shitty nu-devs
>AI shit
Also if you're seeing this cris, frick off.
Good ones will continue to make beloved games, shitters will find another place of work to shit up. Such is the circle of life.
yes should have learned a trade
FRICK art homosexuals.
AI good.
Guess I will pirate
>tfw your cancer-ridden ass is forced to play AI-slop as you die in climate refugee camp in 2030
This shit rings to me of the same idea of Procedural Generation replacing bespoke levels
Turns out that AI, at its absolute best, can only ever imitate what's been done before.
>quality control, debugging, customer support or translation
That would be a good thing tho
>Turns out that AI, at its absolute best, can only ever imitate what's been done before.
That's not how it works though.
AI learns and then uses that data to create new things. The concept is based on how we humans learn and create and it just works.
This image is false. The top scenario is correct, but the bottom one does not reflect reality.
In reality, AI is not being trained on "the concept of a dog" and "the concept of a human." It's being trained on hundreds of thousands of pictures of dog girls, drawn by humans.
It accociates those images with the words tagging it. Meaning it is in fact trained on the concepts, you moron.
Idiot
truth. a child can see one single dog and learn what that is, and recognize every species of dog as dogs hence forth without being told.
You just pulled that out of your ass didnt you ?
It's over for writers before anyone else.
>AI still can't write jokes on even a structural level
>Executives and Shareholders: "TIME TO HAVE THEM DO EVERYTHING."
I get it that our Capitalist systems will make AI an inevitability but can we at least wait a bit longer until they're at least at "Modern SNL Writer" Tier of making content?
>>AI still can't write jokes on even a structural level
I've seen it write jokes before, its capable of it for sure. They're just all "joke book" jokes.
How long until AI can simulate 4chins so we can keep millenials and zoomers happy in their retirement homes?
There is a 22.5gb gptGanker model already.
If I want to draw something I can depict exactly as it is in my imagination, down to detains of composition, colour and "camera angle" of the scene (at least in theory, I still have a lot of practice to do). With AI I can instead try to give a general description of what I want and proooomt until I settle with something vaguely similar to what I had in mind. This is why I dislike AI and always will. The human-AI interface is a limiting factor no matter how perfect the AI itself gets, unless we reach a point where we're using brain chips or the AI is so advanced it can predict their exact wants based on psychology or something.
who cares? your intention is worthless
I care, why should I care about anyone else?
okay so generative AI literally has nothing do with you because you are not competing
Of course you AIgays would call intention worthless since you can't produce shit you want. This is evidenced by how your generated pictures frequently contradict your prompts.
Both types of artists have intention though. And you can't draw worth shit plus your ability will always cuck you, unlike AI artists.
>you can't draw worth shit plus your ability will always cuck you, unlike AI artists
So aigays meant to give their pictures deformed fingers that melt into the character's clavicles.
Post your work.
So all the fricked up hands and legs in this picture
was intentional?
>you can't draw worth shit plus your ability will always cuck you, unlike AI artists
>manually drawn hand looks alien because the AI cannot overwrite the lineart
LOL
> All that work to make slop that will go hidden by default in most gallery sites
I don't get the appeal.
Cope.
Then aigays shouldn't get upset when people mock the weird shit in their pictures. The prompter meant for the character to have hands that looked like their were put in a blender, right?
I draw for fun but I recognize that my personal choice for whatever angle I draw my furry pornography from is literally inconsequential if the AI generates an equally good looking result or better
>at least in theory
We don't live in theoryland, however. Unless you're talented AND dedicated your whole life to drawing, your "perfect vision" of the end goal is still ultimately lost as your brain struggles to translate what you want drawn to the muscles controlling the tool you're drawing with.
yeah but for the person using ai because they cant draw, there os no difference between getting ai to do it and paying you to do it. just that the ai does it in 15 seconds for free.
Use controlnet and pose 3d koikatsu models into the positions you want, then manually fix the pic yourself. It is not automatic, but might save you 90% of the work required otherwise.
>muh vision
Technology will eventually reach a point where we can draw directly from our imagination into a canvas and artgays will still scream and screech because all they can do is gatekeep with their crab mentality.
There are so many things wrong with the top that the perceived quality of the bottom doesn't even matter.
>one error
>lighting is fricked
>human hands despite being some kind of furry
>giant stack of noodles against the wall next to the red cup
>the chopsticks look weird as frick
>the background doesn't know if it wants to be a warehouse or a city
>the noodle in his coat is like in the coat somehow as if it's sewn in
>someone came in the bread
>the resolution in the image is also probably the only resolution of the actual art because all AI shit is the same resolution due to how it's generated
the bottom art might be kinda shit but at least it has soul to it
Most important part is that bottom looks like the actual character and top doesn't.
> the bottom art might be kinda shit but at least it has soul to it
... the botom pic is also AI generated you disengenous moron.
The developers that will touch ai shit weren't worth anything already anyway
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it's almost like people are having a discussion instead of just dropping a steaming shitpost and fricking off
I think it's comical that no one has pushed for using AI to replace management at an executive level. 99.9% of is just making decisions that are based on following market trends and copying others. AI would fricking excel at that. And it'd save companies literally tens to hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
Look into Fuzzy logic. One of its uses was to do these HR bullshit women do
No one's done it because it's fricking stupid.
Found the kid who has been in middle management of their family's business since they turned 18. You'll be replaced soon.
in china they did that and the company outperformed the average
There are some AI CEOs already. AI newscasters and sports broadcasters too, though those aren't relevant really.
but then how would goldstein afford his seventh yacht?
Does AI actually make anything original? As far as I've seen the best it does is just recreate other art styles it has to source from. That's why so much shit looks like boilerplate patreon porn artists.
You can combine basically an infinite amount of styles to create an infinite amount of new styles so yeh. Basically every image AI outputs is original to an extreme level.
>create an infinite amount of new styles
It actually can't. If you tell it to combine two specific styles it mostly fails to do so.
Actually it combines them very well. Impossibly well in fact, if you're comparing the output to what a person could do.
Post some examples then.
Any AI image with the two styles it combines. Let's see how "combined" they are.
Almost every AI generated image is an example of that.
>Then aigays shouldn't get upset when people mock the weird shit in their pictures.
They don't, they're laughing at you for sperging out over nothing.
>almost a year later and you're still mad
Anon, that's just the dreamworks version of gigachad. That's ONE style.
Also holy frick the teeth.
It's an image that is combining two art styles(reality and CG) and two concepts(Shrek and Gigachad). It's the perfect example, exactly what you asked for. Here's another combining even more.
Stumbling into AI content that used data from an artist you like is so jarring. You'll see a directionless mash-up of techniques and then one of the eyes will look just like how that certain artist draws them.
>Nooooo you can't look at other peoples works EVER !
This is literally what you are saying.
There is 0 (none) difference between you looking at someones work and getting inspired / learning from it subconcioussly or conscioussly and AI having it in its dataset.
These networks were modeled after human brains and by the same technique human brain learns.
The only difference is that the computer can look at 100000 works in seconds.
That's it.
>B-b-but it can do the exact same copy !!!
It never does.
If it does its bad network.
It is unwanted behaviour.
>There is 0 (none) difference between you looking at someones work and getting inspired / learning from it subconcioussly or conscioussly and AI having it in its dataset.
Anyone believing that failed as a human.
And no, artificial neural networks are not modeled after human brains but rather after our abstract understanding of learning.
Pick up a book before posting anon. I recommend starting at the beginning with basic mathematics
>learn math
Kek. Maybe google how neural networks compare.
I am saying you should learn math first because you clearly need to start at the beginning morono-kun
I'm saying you're an idiot
Which means nothing since it came from nobody.
No Anon, that's just again ONE character in ONE artstyle.
Two artstyles would be "x (any motif) in the style of dreamworks shrek and the naruto anime"
>in ONE artstyle.
And which art style are you seeing? There are more than one in there and they combined into that aesthetic.
>combined into that aesthetic
Yes, a generic aesthetic. The opposite of a style.
If I want anime van gogh (combining two styles) it fricking sucks and gives the impressionistic bodies detailed anime faces.
It doesn't combine them, it selectively applies them and therefore it fails.
There's no such thing as a generic aesthetic and that one certainly isn't, you're just seething that you couldn't name a single one of the styles in that image. moron.
>couldn't name a single one of the styles in that image
Can you? Probably not and therefore it failed combining specific styles.
Yes I could. I'm rather embarrassed that you couldn't even name one.
>Yes I could
Do it.
Harada
>Harada
Pathetic. How would you even come to that guess? There are no specific similarities.
Blind moron.
You're just guessing. What are the similarties supposed to be?
Harada but with less detail, flatter shading, different proportions, eyes, nose, etc.?
Blind moron.
>can't post examples of two styles combined
>moves goal post to "many styles mixed"
>names only one style and only after pressuring
>can't even post on single thing that the AI style is supposed to inherit
Why are you not even trying?
You are such a loser.
Doesn't feel like it though.
Keep telling yourself that.
>K-On but generic AI e-girl
Come on, name the styles and don't say ghibli
It can't. All it can do is look at the (stolen) data that was fed into it and reorganize it based on approval ratings given to it by its users. Calling it AI is actually extremely generous as it does zero thinking.
>Is it over for game devs?
Nope.
As someone who works in a big western studio i would say... AI wont change much.
Even if you use any model to generate shit, someone has to actually type in prompts, or draw bases for image to image generation or ensure the art style is consistent, it really dosnt replace anybody, if anything we are now looking for people who will be generating shit while our actual artist do useful shit.
Had an occasion to play with Andrew Maximov tools he hyped up so much for asset management and terrain generation and its inferior to Houdini node terrain generations and tag based file management, though not having to tag shit by hand is nice.
I mean game studios already use asset libraries like quixel, and no form of AI generation even in 10 years can match 3d scanned assets that have correct specular and albedo values, so AI 3d generation while it dosnt exist in any useful form, will not replace basic 3d modeling work.
What AI will do though is flood marketplaces with low effort AI generated crap even more than the asset flip shovelware we have now.
And it will make voice actors salty as smaller projects that so far were unvoiced will use AI actors to read shit out, big games still will use actors to record mocap and voice performance, as good as audio AI will get you will never be able to talk with it, direct it and ask it for its interpretation of the character, it will default instead to most popular shit it had in its training model.
lol as if you can't collect prompts and use that to train models that generate prompts, mix in social media engagement stats to guide it further
And ... who will do it?
As a lead i dont care if my team pulls assets out of their ass or if they generate them. I prepare ref sheets with out art dir, they get tech budgets and deadlines and models "make themselves" already while i only feedback and hurry people up.
Tools dont matter, someone still has to use them and i dont have time.
Only thing that will change for me is that now when im doing recruiting im gonna write "familiar with art AI models" in the "nice to have" part.
data companies like alphabet and microsoft, all these companies that revolve around collecting user data, just do statistical analysis on social media engagement with generated content and you find out what works
Do what? what you on about?
Designing games around user trends? We already do this, we have entire departments for this. We have shell companies whose only job is to AB test ideas and gather user data.
keep track of what's popular and well liked obviously, it helps filter out what doesn't work
As i said, we already track this.
Not like it matters since its often ignored by the lead designers or game directors, no AI can beat human ego or virtue signaling activist.
we were talking about generative models for generating prompts, you can train this through collecting what prompts people are writing as well as seeing what prompts work on social media
Yeah .. but why? We already have specialist on AI, we literally have people who write inhouse software for procedural generation of random crap.
Usually its the same people who write our complex shaders is substance and hudini, they already know what prompts use and how to train models we need for any task.
My point is that prompts arent the problem, its having a person to have the know how to use it and to actually do it. Im just an art lead, not even an art director or producer or manager yet alone a ceo, and i dont have time for it, i got 100 people under me whose job is to prepare shit so its done no matter how.
you started by saying we need people writing prompts and I explained this can be automated
yeah, by writing i didnt mean "typing out", i really dont care how its done, they can use mind waves for all i care
i meant someone who is there to generate, and make sure if fallows our project art guidelines and can be used in the project, and i really dont care what prompts are used or where they came from
anyway this convo running in a circle
so instead of having tons of draftsmen you have a few curators
>And it will make voice actors salty
I dont get this.
Small projects werent buying their service anyway.
Big studios carry on bau.
What are they b***hing abiut?
Big studios eventually won't hire them because AI will just be better.
Big studios can buy a handful of lines and then stuff them in an AI to produce the rest to cut on costs.
The people who cope about this shit are so embarassing that I've started to hate artists, it's such emotion based whining
Are you a Communist or Socialist?
cry more, I'm in tune with reality, no amount of appealing to human values won't change the course of this shit
I'm just asking because I really want to understand how you could see the theft of one's property to fuel a machine that reduces said person's ability to create Capital in a Capitalist society as "emotional" if you were a Capitalist yourself.
see ludites
Same. I didn't like some artists before AI art but now I dislike most of them.
>tool comes out letting anyone create cool art really easy
>they try to burn it down
Literally evil.
Humanity is going to be held back by people who scream that we should hinder progress. That is what the entire AI debacle has shown me.
Artists are all elitists homosexuals with crab mentality. They reject everything that makes their life easier because the hobby is nothing but grind, grind, grind.
Remember when drawing tablets became standard technology?
>oh what's that you're drawing with an undo button?
>you did not draw that art
BASED. This is essentially a QRD of this moronic argument:
>noooo you can't just make images without spending ten years of your life simply learning how to draw a hand
It's not about not learning to draw, it's refusing to adapt to new tools that make drawing easier and faster
https://files.catbox.moe/dpf9hs.png
I just like what it makes.
Yes Anon, we all know that you love shit. Be a pajeet elsewhere.
you seething is just pathetic really
>here look at this shit, isn't this some great shit
>no, it's literally shit
>hahaaa you are just mad because reasons
no anon, AI shit is literally fricking shit. frick off with it.
lmao seethe harder.
you cant even outperform this "shit". youre literally worse than ai art lmao.
get replaced babe.
post your work (you won't, because we both know it's worse than even the worst AIslop)
i don't draw. i can tell what shit is just by looking at it anon. you don't need to be an experienced expert to realize when you're looking at pure shit.
you cant even articulate why its shit.
lol
imagine seething this hard.
sorry sally, the tech is here to stay
can you articulate why it is good? let's start with that.
it makes nice boobies, butts, legs and stomachs. the skin is sexy and creases oh so nicely. its way better than the stickmen i can draw and only takes a few seconds.
it also makes you seethe.
now tell me why its bad.
>now tell me why its bad
all AI porn has that disgusting oily sheen. like literally all of it has that weird nasty sheen on the skin.
lmao
>O-OILY SHEEN
lmao is that the best you have?
>i don't draw.
Why are you so defensive if you don't have a dog in this fight then? You're not producing anything.
>it's shit because... look it just is ok!
Castrate yourself.
because why should humans be replaced by some soulless fricking garbage? why do you want that to happen? if this AI stuff takes off, it's not going to be good for the human race, regardless of if you can generate your perfect waifu or whatever instead of just learning an actual skill and doing it yourself. i'm pro humanity and actual humans making shit.
>why should humans be replaced by some soulless fricking garbage
Why shouldn't we? Humans already got replaced in manufacturing and nobody gave a shit. Worse yet, they got told to "learn to code". Now artsy fartsy homosexuals are next in line for the chopping block and I'm supposed to stand up for them? Why?
AI isn't stopping you from drawing or writing or doing anything creative. In a perfect world people would draw because they want to, not because they need to SELL PRODUCT to live.
why shouldn't you make money off of something if you're good at it and people want to pay?
I can tell it's human made because the words on the signs aren't gibberish. next.
>I can tell it's human made
you sure about that buddy?
yeah i'm pretty sure. ai can't generate sentences or words that aren't gibberish in images at this point. now if you're about to pull a trump card and say it IS ai generated, then i have bad news for you. a human touched it up to an extensive degree.
>even if I'm wrong ad you prove it I won't admit I was wrong
Fair enough no real point in arguing with your religion
prove me wrong then. go ahead.
You already made it clear in your last post that even if that is AI generated you will not admit you were wrong.
i'm telling you to prove me wrong. show me that it is AI. don't whine about how i wont accept it, fricking prove it first you frick.
>why shouldn't you make money off of something if you're good at it and people want to pay?
Because someone else figured out a way to make them faster, cheaper, more efficiently, in larger amounts, etc. Just like manufacturing.
You don't see anyone screaming about mom & pop basket weaving shops going bankrupt because the supermarkets are putting them out of business do you?
>You don't see anyone screaming about mom & pop basket weaving shops going bankrupt because the supermarkets are putting them out of business do you?
you do see people crying about that, all the time. what the frick are you on about?
>You don't see anyone screaming about mom & pop basket weaving shops going bankrupt because the supermarkets are putting them out of business do you?
Were you in a coma or something before/during COVID lockdowns forced all the local businesses into bankruptcy as big fat companies like Amazon made record profits or what?
>You don't see anyone screaming about mom & pop basket weaving shops going bankrupt
Why do you AIgays love to lie about basic observable things going on in the world?
Most human made art is already souless mass produced shit.
You can not honestly point out the "human" element in picrel, nor tell that it wasn't AI generated.
>trees the right size
>traffic lights the right size
>cables start and end coherently
>signs are readable
How often do you morons need to be told. Most people are annoying by the low quality mass produced and nearly identical garbage that you spam everywhere.
As someone said before.
AI art is like cilantro, it doesn't bother some people, but half of the human population thinks it tastes like absolute turgid rotting dog shit and they want none of it 10 miles away from their food.
You may have not a problem with AI art, but lots and lots and lots of people think that it looks uncanny, uncomfortable and don't want to see any of it replacing normal non-uncanny valley art in the products they consume.
meanwhile in reality most people can't even tell if something was AI generated or not
Why do AI-tards always think everyone calling them out for their shit are drawgays?
Because why would anyone other than an artgay take any of this pationatly seriously?
I don't see AIgays trolling /ic/ artwork pointing out all the stupid flaws in drawgay artwork.
but Ganker told me that AI sucks and things made using AI are garbage that nobody wants!
If that was the case, Ganker would be right for once to see past the last scam.
how do i get good at ai
i only intend to use it for jacking off purposes
you look for better custom models than those that come with basic stable diffusion download trained on that shitty Laion libreary
the end
where do i even look
sites liek this https://civitai.com/
go to /h/ or /b/, there is always AI thread up, links are inside
does civitai even have nsfw models or do i not need to worry about something like that
Every model is NSFW.
I see
Also, how would I go about doing ai generations with a specific character?
Which character?
I didn't have anyone specific in mind, more generally trying to find out the method; maybe for a custom character from vidya or other characters I want to do
you usually create loras for that
Is there a way to like "combine" them?
For example: If I liked the style of how one lora generated things but, I wanted specific character to be the the thing being generated with that style
yes, loras are in the <> in a prompt(unless they're using an old extension)
so this pic for example uses <lora:norahigumav2-9:1>
<lora:Shenhe_Hard:1>
you can weigh them separately if the balance of influence isn't to your liking
I see, thank you I'll frick around with it
If I had to give advice to a newbie it would be
1. install stable diffusion
2. go to civitai and find models you like
3. save images from civitai or another site to get png info so you can see how people prompt and learn from them
4. get loras to further customize the models you like
after that just get extensions to improve your gens
If AI can automate away most people in bloated AAA gamedev teams then why don't you just cut these companies out of the equation entirely and make your own games with AI?
Why should I pay for megacorp PC goyslop when my computer can make games for me for FREE?
>Why should I pay for megacorp PC goyslop when my computer can make games for me for FREE?
because it can't. AI is not magic.
Because AI is LE BED and it will be illegal to do that anon
Mostly it will be illegal to profit from it.
And licensed datasets will cost an arm and a testicle.
you are delusional on both counts
it's cheap to use and nothing can possibly stop you from doing it for free
For now moron
now and forever
Exactly. Eventually the entire industry will be dead because it will take nothing to make a cool game. We might be 90 years old but it will come.
the second golden age of gaming.
AI is being very helpful in my solodev experience. More with the coding than the art.
you're a fricking moronic asking an anime question on Wrong board
Using SD to make my own custom portraits for obscure vidya
It's comfy shame i can't change Gaulen's since he sticks out like a sore thumb
don't care. AI is yet another stupid gimmick like crypto and NFT to "wow" investors and buy companies more time to find someone to be sold to. entertainment these days is made for investors, not consumers. it's the same for the film industry.
>something anyone with a 10 years old pc can run locally
>muh corporations
moron
AI is non factor here. Never mattered, never will. It's an overglorified search engine. It's sold as an idea to investors. Your opinion on it doesn't matter. You're poor and out of the industry.
>a billion of indie devs now receiving a gigantic boost to their workflow right in their parent's basement
>"doesn't matter"
meds
you're not in the industry. I am. there is no "boost". this is just an idea sold to investors that companies will be able to cut costs by replacing working people with AI. just like how they were promising them a huge "boost" in earning with the NFT wave a few years ago. the indie market is irrelevant in this discussion. it's the same if we were discussing what asset-flip Rhajeet has flooded the steam market with this time
I have never seen AI art that I wanted in a game.
Newer FromSoft games use an artificial procedural generation process for their architectural and landscapes.
that's not "AI art" that's just "if x put chimney we made manually" "if y put tree"
I have
>ai homosexuals would proudly put a character in a game with a deformed face and deformed hands while claiming its high quality
hey now, I would clean it up if I could prompt 3D models to use.
I prefer un-deformed hands, but you do you boo.
>Is it over for game devs?
No, it's just starting. Better learn AI tools asap, a lot of great games are going to come from 2-10 man teams in the near future that can compete with AA slop.
If you've tried writing code with gpt or co-pilot you would realize these claims are moronic.
Can you run SDXL on 4gb cards yet?
I would pay some good money to filter AI images out of the sites I use.
If companies want to monetize AI, that's a thing that could work.
dont worry.
in 2 years you wont even be able to distinguish ai from non ai.
just two more weeks
no, I meant years.
the tech is evolving fast, but not THAT fast.
I guess you meant to say two more weeks anon
Lmao that's just extortion
> Buy Pixiv premium to get rid of the AI trash
I would seriously consider it
great. another way for devs to half-ass something. maybe i wouldn't b***h if they used AI for menial tasks like compiling certain code and compressing game assets but in my opinion, AI is being used incorrectly
you're a nodev.
your opinion is irrelevant.
A disgrace to live itself.
if a game costs less to make then i am willing to pay less for it
that fact is gonna be pretty difficult to deal with!!
>he pays more than zero already
cuck
>Is it over for ____
yes, it is, it just fricking is. Just stop already and make AI Generating programs of any kind working on my machine without phyton shit goddamit
> It's a Ganker pretends they can differentiate between AI and artgay thread
LET'S GOOO
the eyes. next.
You just proved their point
What's wrong with the eyes?
i check four things: weird skin sheen, eyes, hands and words. it is such an immediate and obvious tell of ai shit.
>skin sheen
>THE OILY SHEEEEEEN
hahaha you pathetic frick
it's true though. it all has that sheen. you know it does. there's like a dozen examples in this thread alone.
yeah keep banging that drum.
>how do you know it's shit
>the smell
>OOOH THE SMELL YOU KEEP GOING ON ABOUT THE SMELL HOW PATHETIC
ok.
you're delusional.
you rubbed shit all over your erys and are trying to convincr the world that everything is shit.
just do humanity a favor and kys yourself. your type is just trying to stop progress.
Guess you can't tell what really is shit then, shit eater.
See
>i check four things: weird skin sheen, eyes, hands and words. it is such an immediate and obvious tell of ai shit.
Good luck with that, cause you were wrong kek
alright. granted i was primed to expect ai shit but whatever, you're gonna say cope but i did actually look at the hands after posting that and yeah it's obvious its human. whatever though, you got me bro.
Eat shit and die
LMAOOOOOOO
just close the tab oilysheenkun.
watching this shit is fricking hilarious but also highly depressing.
a layman clearly can't tell the difference, and at the end of the day the only person suffering from this ordeal are highly skilled artists that people are supposedly so concerned about, who have to deal with constant accusations of being an AI.
As usual with literally anything, its usually morons that ruin it
>a layman clearly can't tell the difference
I'm a layman and I can. The average Ganker-tard is below a layman obviously.
>a layman clearly can't tell the difference between passing trannies and real women, and at the end of the day the only person suffering from this ordeal are masculine women that people are supposedly so concerned about, who have to deal with constant accusations of being a troony.
>rentfree blaballab
>masculine women that people are supposedly so concerned about
false
no one ever cared about those ogres.
one schizo on youtube does all the caring for the rest of us.
They can just post a timelapse to prove these accusations wrong. And if they refuse they're probably tracing or doing other underhanded shit that will devalue them just as much as using an AI.
>shit that will devalue them
You artrannies are so delusional lmao.
You don't decide their value.
Consumers do.
You artrannies are poor. You don't decide the value of anything.
>Consumers do.
Then why are consumers flinging those accusations in the first place moron? Think before you post.
Consumers do not give a frick troony.
Nobody except your sorry useless artroony asses cares.
>literally lying about easily observable reality
>troony obsession
here's your (You)
It's only "observable reality" on twitter you absolute troony moron.
Now go get a real job
alternatively they could just not care and keep drawing because they like it
>highly skilled artists have to deal with constant accusations of being an AI.
Reminds me of when r/art banned a dude even though he had saved his .psd workflow as he was an art teacher.
fricking kek
the friendly fire is delicious
only that side of the aisle is aggressive like that
in this case the person banning was literally a no-draw reddit troony moderator though.
even better
>reddit homosexuals being moronic as usual
>the art being incredibly generic and nonsensical
Both parties are dumb.
damn thats cool.
i like helmets and bodysuits with all the griblies on them.
>griblies
greebles*
i always get that wrong
I like AI because I can make cute pics
why is it so blurry?
once AI starts making decisions for government officials and they are the final say, then it's truly over
Technology moves forward and nothing will stop its march, for better or worse.
Adapt or die.
AI good, AI bad, blah blah blah, get these fricking shit ass images out of my rule34 results holy shit
AI won...
>Consultant technology management
>MIT PHd, physics
My sides
>We must start reusing animation cells, it will reduce costs and we will make better animations
>We must use digital art, it will reduce costs and we will make better animations
>We must use CGI, it will reduce costs and we will make better animations
>We must use 3D, it will reduce costs, and we will make better animations
>We must AI now, guys
AI models are like playing the same linear game with the same environments and the same levels and the same enemies and the same gameplay with a different character skin every single time.
You will see the same shit every time, do the same shit every time, and everyone with half a brain got bored of it about eight months ago.
you're just not an artist if you got bored of creating art
Guess I stopped being a writer after cancelling my AI dungeon subscription two years ago.
There's no meaningful difference between AI and human art. In both cases people created art.
these threads are great
> Banned on steam
The hype was shortlived
i'm glad steam has the bare minimum self awareness to know it's already filled with shovelware
It was good while it lasted
The bag was out of the cat
>still getting trolled by a reddit shitpost
embarrassing
lol
when will ai create usable meshes for me, im lazy and want to enhance my coom outfit mods
quad remesher