Is it really that good? I never played a Persona game, but this looks sick.

Is it really that good? I never played a Persona game, but this looks sick. What is it and what knowledge do i need about the franchise?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >still playing video games in 2024
    commit suicide

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you here?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Still posting in Ganker in 2024.
      We'll kill ourselves together, let's do a double suicide.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it's that good. Amazing soundtrack, awesome style, addicting gameplay loop.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine but it quickly becomes
    >do a dungeon in 1-2 days
    >rest of your time is mostly spent doing mundane shit to raise stats

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This except the dungeons are the insanely boring part and the social scheduling is fun. Combat in this game typically involves just hitting the enemy with its weakness and then watching the little All-Out cutscene, then move to next combat. I like being limited and thinking of my social options during a normal week.

      Also this game being 6th on Ganker's "top 100 games of all time 2023" list is laughable and makes me question how they gathered that data. I like the game but that is greatly overselling it.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its presentation is nigh peerless, albeit. And presentation is a very important part of popularity in games.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've personally been saying that P5 was amazing since 2017 and it took this long for people to catch on. I was there before it was cool.

          I beat the original back when it came out and I'm close to beating Royal now. I do think it's a good game, like I said, but the combat just doesn't hold that much appeal. My wife has been watching me play it for the story and social events but she just checks out for the dungeons and Mementos and I don't really blame her.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've personally been saying that P5 was amazing since 2017 and it took this long for people to catch on. I was there before it was cool.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like P5, more than p4 or p3, is bogged down by the palaces being so "long and complex" (compared to previous games, I mean)
        I feel like the dungeons are just too long in p5, which just further incentivises trying to beat them as soon as possible so people can get back to the life sim stuff
        If they were shorter (like 1/3rd shorter), I feel like I'd have more of an incentive to leave things off for later or to do it more gradually because "there's no way there's much left anyway, so I can finish this off later no problem"
        But as it stands, I just try to do as much as possible, as soon as possible, because I know the dungeon will take a while, and then suddently I'm near the very end at the first day

        I think one quick way to fix both those issues is just by having more "event gated" parts of the palaces like what happened with Yusuke's master, just add more story in between before being able to progress, and make the palaces relatively shorter and they won't come off as much of a pain

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it a standalone story?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      no you need to play 1, 2 innocent sin and 2 eternal punishment to understand 5

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >
        [...]
        This. You need background knowledge of 1, 2 Eternal Punishment, and 3 FES to really *get* Persona 5. I'd argue that Persona 2 Innocent Sin isn't as important to understanding P5 but you should play it anyways since its a great game. Persona 4 can be skipped because P5 actually takes place before it chronologically. Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga 1+2 should be played before Persona 5 or else you'll feel pretty lost with the combat mechanics. Persona 5, particularly Royal, isn't exactly friendly to people who are new to the franchise.

        TL;DR - Play P1, P2 Eternal Punishment, P3 FES and at least Nocturne before playing Persona 5 or else a lot of the basic plot will be lost on you.

        Good laugh

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >

      no you need to play 1, 2 innocent sin and 2 eternal punishment to understand 5

      This. You need background knowledge of 1, 2 Eternal Punishment, and 3 FES to really *get* Persona 5. I'd argue that Persona 2 Innocent Sin isn't as important to understanding P5 but you should play it anyways since its a great game. Persona 4 can be skipped because P5 actually takes place before it chronologically. Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga 1+2 should be played before Persona 5 or else you'll feel pretty lost with the combat mechanics. Persona 5, particularly Royal, isn't exactly friendly to people who are new to the franchise.

      TL;DR - Play P1, P2 Eternal Punishment, P3 FES and at least Nocturne before playing Persona 5 or else a lot of the basic plot will be lost on you.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Anons can't even be honest when trying to deter new players
        That's how you know it's a good game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        SBlack person

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No. Start with the Digital Devil Story novels

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ye it's good. Play on Hard, everything else is too easy, including Merciless. No you do not need to have played the other games. It is around 100 hours in length so you need to set aside some time for it. The characters, time management, and dungeons are very well done.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going in blind is the best possible way to play. Its my favorite game of all time

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game is so popular that even v hates it despite being considered by libs Chud series.
    Its half life sim and half RPG battles.
    Social links are basically friendship stuff that gives bonuses to your dungeon crawling.
    Its long because the game dictates the pace.
    Still the most popular RPG of recent times.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s a good game.

    The problem is it’s the first of its series (both persona & smt as a whole) to go normie mainstream, so redditors will treat it like a supreme landmark in gaming without realizing there’s 5+ other games that have already done it (albeit less polished).

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has terrible pacing (Yes, 105 hours is too long even for jrpg standards) but other than that its pretty epic.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, the writing is laughably bad, the social sim is grindy, the combat boils down to sneak up, spam weaknesses and negotiate some money so they go away. Play SMT 3 or 4 if you want something similar but better.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just played this as my first persona game ever last year and found all the hype to be inflated.
    The story was alright and the gameplay was just glorified rock paper scissors
    I also skipped the social links completely and found you need to max certain characters to get the true ending.
    >Just pulled up cheat engine and hacked in max confidant links

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn’t play the game as intended and thought it was shit

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOOOO YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME THE """RIGHT""" WAY
        If social links are optional, then they're optional...

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          By that logic, the true ending is optional as well. So all's fair.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ignores everything else about the post

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              u are moronic

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The true ending is trash written by totally different people and stapled on the re-release, so yes it is optional.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          this is how i felt about majora's mask
          it's a fricking 5/10 game and if the sidequests are so fricking important they shouldn't have been sidequests

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >dragon's dogma is the best game ever
          >oh but if you dont play it with a guide you'll miss out on 65% of the content

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The time management is what makes it fun, plus the slinks provide the flavoring that makes the characters and world more well rounded

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Far too many people seems obsessed with doing all in one run and zealously follow a guide.
            No wonder you have so many people getting burned out.
            They miss the point. Specially since its not like P3 where getting all in a run has to be tightly managed.
            4 and specially 5 gives you so much leeway.
            Plus if uou wanna 100% it you need to fight the NG+ anyways.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Figuring out how games work on your own is what makes game fun. if you’re just gonna follow a guide, might as well watch a movie

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Or the anime.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its pretty good, but I think its the worst of the nusonas, probably the most accessible to new players though. Reload is also pretty accessible. You don't really need to know anything about it other than its a turn based jrpg with visual novel elements. follow a guide if you want to max social links/confidants. You'll get 99.99% of the story stuff without playing any of the earlier games

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a way to start this game with maxed social stats like through a trainer or some shit? I'm tired of these games basically requiring a guide to experience all the social links because they time gate you with arbitrary stats.
    I beat it on PS4 a while ago but lost my save because I'm a moron so I got Royal on Steam and I'd prefer to do some type of NG+. But every mod I look at is a NG+ save specifically which will just make the game buttfrick easy as it'll give me all the summons again

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's excellent. Vanilla P5 was better though.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good game, but I would like the game to actually be harder, but not in the way the game itself becomes harder as you pick harder difficulties, if that makes any sense. As it stands, harder difficulties just means the numbers are tuned tighter, without any change in mechanics. The game needs more battles like Okumura's boss fight on Hard, where you have to figure out the best strategy and how to dish out as much damage as possible in a limited time frame or you get punished.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I spent an entire day fighting Okumura and only noticed after on my save file that it was on hard. That shit was way harder than Kaneshiro.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a good game, but I would like the game to actually be harder, but not in the way the game itself becomes harder as you pick harder difficulties, if that makes any sense. As it stands, harder difficulties just means the numbers are tuned tighter, without any change in mechanics. The game needs more battles like Okumura's boss fight on Hard, where you have to figure out the best strategy and how to dish out as much damage as possible in a limited time frame or you get punished.

        Okumura is a seemingly random difficulty spike 50 hours into an easy game. Short of grinding to an overlevel you need very specific fusions and spells without any warning beforehand. Atlus even left it in Royal which is strange.
        Overall the game doesn't use the pokedex enough which is why it is too easy. Making the enemies have bigger numbers is not interesting, it's just padding. I don't recommend people play on higher difficulty settings for this. It would be better to increase the differential between having the correct persona for a fight and picking at random.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I spent an entire day fighting Okumura and only noticed after on my save file that it was on hard. That shit was way harder than Kaneshiro.

      [...]
      Okumura is a seemingly random difficulty spike 50 hours into an easy game. Short of grinding to an overlevel you need very specific fusions and spells without any warning beforehand. Atlus even left it in Royal which is strange.
      Overall the game doesn't use the pokedex enough which is why it is too easy. Making the enemies have bigger numbers is not interesting, it's just padding. I don't recommend people play on higher difficulty settings for this. It would be better to increase the differential between having the correct persona for a fight and picking at random.

      Just use baton pass

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's only good if you prefer reading over playing games

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All jarpigs are dog shit, this one is no exception. Childish, juvenile dialogue that just goes on and on, extremely repetitive combat, a ton of filler content that just wastes your time. The story is also mostly banal nonsense without nuance, aimed at 13 year olds. The music and presentation is pretty good and unique, though.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Persona 5 Royal is a complicated game because it's like the best game ever for just as many reasons as it's the worst game ever. Reload is a more balanced experience, but not as interesting.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed the gameplay for the most part. The music and overall style of the game are great. Characters are mostly good with a few real stinkers in there. Story starts strong but drags out too long and I feel like the payoff at the end wasn’t that strong. Worth playing but totally understand why someone wouldn’t finish it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The worst issue with the story is that Royal story is a slightly better retelling of the last act of the original storyline that players just went through, which feels odd.
      Also the middle part of the story around mid-summer to early autumn is just a long padding (in all three games). Usually people have issues writing endings but personas have strong starts and ends with...something in between.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The middle part is dreadful, but yeah, its a good game

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vanilla is a 6/10, Royal part is 8/10

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's very slick and stylish, great game

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a safe bet. I don't think the game belongs to a top 50 but I can't imagine anyone not liking it short of being allergic to anime.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's good

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it really that good?
    It's decent, not the best in the series. A bit on the easy side.
    >What is it and what knowledge do i need about the franchise?
    None. You can just jump right into it, they happen in the same universe but in different regions and different time periods. Basically game can divided into two sections: real life and dungeons. Both are intertwined gameplay-wise and story-wise. In real life you must, well, live out MC's life as a Japanese high school student, you progress through story and interact with other characters who have Social Links. Social Links are essentially mini-stories within the stories that usually thematically intertwine with main story, some are pretty good. The dungeon section is where all the combat is and combat is essentially very expanded rock paper scissors fest with more options. The key to combat is knowing enemies' weaknesses and preparing your Personas accordingly. Personas are essentially Pokemon that aren't limited to 4 moves that you can combine into different Personas.

    Persona 3 FES is the game in the series. But Persona 5 is the most newcomer friendly. Persona 4 is ok.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play 4 Golden

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's my go-to comfort game when I need familiarity. The best part is most of the tedious parts are skippable, or something you can have on in the background wile you focus on another task.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I loved it, but would not replay.
    Make sure to not spend too much time in dungeons, otherwise you'll probably burnout pretty quickly

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you enjoy JRPG turn based combat and long, story-driven games with a heavy focus on character development, there's a good chance you'll like it. Both gameplay and storywise, this game is all about progression.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's amazing
    Make sure to romance Makoto, the canon romance

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    my bird bride

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Turn her into crimson Futaba

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sophia should have been a romance, not her.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is P4 or P5? I've played SMT3 and P3:FES before. I got laid off and so have ample time to pursue my autism high school sim but won't have enough free time to do both. I've never looked into 4 or 5, all I know is 4 is about a TV world and 5 is about going into evil peoples minds or something

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      cringe user. would have had a party after kicking you to the curb. fricking kek

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Persona 4 is more of a school sim.
      You even have a choice of clubs wich has different SLs.
      The group lives in a town there they are close to each other so there is a bigger camaraderie feeling.
      Also use your name, dont be a homosexual and use Yu Narukami like everyone other unoriginal bloke.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      5's gameplay and mechanics are objectively better, but if you ever spent time in a small town, or if you lived in one during your childhood, p4 is peak
      personally it reminded of the summers i spent over at my grandparent's, they lived in a small town where everyone more or less knew each other, and it's hard to explain but p4 kinda captures this vibe and it's stupidly comfy
      story wise, it's give or take, down to preference, personally I like p4's cast more overall, but it's hard to guess which one you'll like more before going in

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

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