Pretty much unless you consider PMD2, but that has some pretty different gameplay.
Usually the people who complain about linearity in newer games also don’t like the GameCube games.
Also you are ignoring the biggest problem with Sun and Moon which is that it holds your hand and treats the player like an infant.
Colosseum and XD didn’t do that.
No, Colosseum forces the player to actually beat consecutive battles without saving in between them. In every mainline you can save in between Pokémon League boss battles, meaning you can bypass the whole idea of having beat all 5 of them without losing because GameFreak thinks that is too much for children.
You can save more freely in XD, though not in the Orre Colosseum, which is some of the only good postgame content in any Pokémon game, even Colosseum has a shit post game.
Best games in general? Not even close, that goes to HGSS and B2W2.
Best 3D games? I'd say they're up there, if only because the console game's we're getting now could've been so much more.
Overlevelling Espeon and Umbreon/Eeveelution and Ursaring while refusing to use anything else like a moronic 6 year old is not how you play the game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Overlevelling Espeon and Umbreon/Eeveelution and Ursaring while refusing to use anything else like a moronic 6 year old is not how you play the game
source?
USUM has double battles in all the fights that matter while also giving you a massive disadvantage which makes the game harder unlike Colosseum which is just piss easy and slow the entire way through.
Colosseum's difficulty is based on extremely limited pokemon and movepools for most of them. Hell only your starters can even level up for the first few hours
USUM is hard, but Kommo-o is fricking trivial and is probably the easiest totem fight in both games. Like, the battle is a fricking joke, you can blink at it and it's over instantly. Lurantis and both water trials are way harder, especially since they happen earlier in the game when you have less options.
no game with affection bonuses is hard
Just don't use them moron. The only game where that's a valid excuse is BDSP, and guess what that's probably the worst fricking Pokemon game.
None of the Orre games are slow. The fact that all fights are doubles AND because it's gen 3, that means you switch out right away when a mon goes down means the fights are fast paced. What a stupid post.
>Electrike clips through his trainers legs after he is hurt
Holy SOVL!
You were trying to refute his point yet you showed a game cube game doing what everyone has been asking of game freak ever since the mainline games made the jump to 3d
Doing what? Having obnoxiously slow animations that make the game barely playable?
Seems like you really hate the hurt animations of the Colosseum games.
I get it, but it’s honestly my favorite part of the game.
It gives so many Pokémon so much more character, along with some of the fainting animations.
4 months ago
Anonymous
most animations in the colosseums were from stadium 2, which makes this particular criticism extra shortbus in my opinion
4 months ago
Anonymous
Personally the animations I like the most are from the Gen 3 mons.
4 months ago
Anonymous
this obviously came after colosseum, but really like honkrows animation(found it while getting the unown animation)
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I get it, but it’s honestly my favorite part of the game
This is easy to say for someone who doesn't actually play the game and can just watch redditors post clips in isolation instead of having to spend hours watching le ebin funny animations.
4 months ago
Anonymous
i grew up playing it, it's not a problem unless you're a zoomie with an attention span of a gnat. oh wait.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>i grew up playing it,
Exactly, now try playing it again as an adult and not a child with low IQ and poor memories of it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm 25 and played it recently and it's still good.
4 months ago
Anonymous
i play consistently. i'm working on a team for the ho-oh challenge run.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I also replay these games fairly regularly, definitely more than any other pokemon game. Did ho-oh once back in 2005 for the sake of completing the dex in sapphire, I think I'll give that another go when I get back to my current run.
You were trying to refute his point yet you showed a game cube game doing what everyone has been asking of game freak ever since the mainline games made the jump to 3d
>THIS IS SO BADDDD AND SLOW NOOO
posts literal immense soul and what everyone was asking and hoping for from 3d pokemon
You were trying to refute his point yet you showed a game cube game doing what everyone has been asking of game freak ever since the mainline games made the jump to 3d
They are slow as frick compared to the Gen 3 GBA games, that's just a consequence of using 3D models that are actually animated. Doesn't mean the games are bad.
>Having higher standards for a game running on 2003 hardware compared to 2017
Obviously if Col came out nowadays I would expect it to run quicker, but it was the absolute pinacle of what it was possible to do with Pokemon at the time
>a shitty gamecube game that reuses a bunch of N64 assets and slaps them into a boring short linear as frick campaign with barely any content was the pinnacle of what you could do with pokemon
grim
>game that babysits you and panders to trannies and instagram prostitutes with muh vacation trip setting >game that actually tried a darker a more mature approach on pokemon for the first time
They’re polar opposites if anything, frick off
Replaying Colosseum right now and it's making me realize how fricking bad the eeveelutions are
Umbreon just simply can't do damage early on because bite is special
umbreon is a stallmon, so expecting it to do damage its tarded. HOWEVER, if you dont or cant bring in something from the other games that learn spore and false swipe, its a good enough capture aid.
>Can only get Ganlon, Salac, Petaya, and Apicot berries from these two games >Can get Salac berries from the Battle CDs >But that still requires fricking 45000 Poke Coupons for the other three >Can do Battle Bingo in place of Mt. Battle, but after clearing a card it's randomized, making it that much harder
God damn what a pain in the ass
Anyone know if all the e-reader cards for Colosseum got archived in some usable manner? Injectable/emulator compatible would be preferable but I can print stuff on the good laser printer at work and get the e-reader itself from a local shop that had a few last time I was in there if need be.
https://myrient.erista.me/files/No-Intro/Nintendo%20-%20Game%20Boy%20Advance%20(e-Reader)/
This is every single e-Reader card (except for a few that are still lost, such as the 1st place Kirby Contest Card to name one.)
Yes, even with their numerous flaws
I'm completely convinced Game Freak had a hand in banishing Genius Sonority to shitty spinoffs like pokemon shuffle because they were embarassed that the 2 real pokemon games they got to make completely shat all over Game Freak entire catalog
I can see why people like the hurt animations from Stadium/Colosseum games but it would look super jank with the camera angles used in the actual games. Like imagine you use Surf in a double battle, then 3 Pokemon are simultaneously doing a 8-10 second long hurt animation before the next one attacks. It'd just be weird.
You should have a couple of levitate/flying pokemon that should do very well in this fight, if nothing else just to switch into them when you expect an earthquake. Otherwise consider buying the protect tm for one of your main pokemon, the fight becomes considerably easier when you can withstand some more earthquakes and it'll keep being relevant throughout the game so it's not a bad investment
you gotta kill this guys pokemon in a certain order to capture entei. metang and golem first(it doesnt matter which order these go down) marshtomp will switch in as soon as one falls, but you should ignore him for now. kill camerupt next, which will cause entei to switch in without friendly fire. switch in umbreon to tickle entei into the capture zone. umbreon and quilava will take care of metang, crocnaw will destroy camerupt and golems anus. espeon, makuhita, and noctowl will be useful here as well.
You should have a couple of levitate/flying pokemon that should do very well in this fight, if nothing else just to switch into them when you expect an earthquake. Otherwise consider buying the protect tm for one of your main pokemon, the fight becomes considerably easier when you can withstand some more earthquakes and it'll keep being relevant throughout the game so it's not a bad investment
there isnt any levitates available before you beat colosseums story mode, and the only flying type is noctowl. also, you need to complete the story to unlock trades.
holy frick this guy spams double team on every one of his pokemon and my only guaranteed-hit moves are espeon's swift (which does shit damage because pre-slip whoops!) and makuhita's vital throw
>there isnt any levitates available before you beat colosseums story mode
misdreavus has levitate >and the only flying type is noctowl.
mantine
more than half your options are UU or OU teir at every point in the story, so no.
4 months ago
Anonymous
more than half your options are UU or OU teir at every point in the story, so no.
Like half the people who say this game is "hard" use the filler mons, there's no gameplay expectation of you actually using shit like Quilfish the game just wants you to have Espeon+Starter+Dogs+whatever shitmon you are purifying.
4 months ago
Anonymous
tbh Typhlosion is better than Entei because he gets fricked by fire being special
4 months ago
Anonymous
Feraligatr is a bit broken compared to the other starters here, having Surf in this game where it only hits the enemy is super helpful.
Meganium is obviously excluded I shouldn’t have to say that. But in the context of Colosseum there’s very obvious “wrong” Pokemon
4 months ago
Anonymous
Feraligatr is a bit broken compared to the other starters here, having Surf in this game where it only hits the enemy is super helpful.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Surf is great, he just needs a Rain Dance buddy to really push those numbers though.
4 months ago
Anonymous
can you possibly have a more wrong opinion? this game completely changed my opinion of the flaffy and makuhita lines
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah Makuhita is slept on. >First shadow pokemon so best availability. >Early Cross Chop fricks up a lot of things, moreso when it evolves. >Evolves as soon as it's purified.
4 months ago
Anonymous
But both those Pokemon are only bad in a Smogon context. Like everyone uses mareep in G/S lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
smogon context is homosexual context. it gets more and more unhinged as time goes on because smogon was only created to groom children. > Like everyone uses mareep in G/S lol
i didnt, i thought it was an early route shitmon like pidgey so the only pokemon i used from that route was natu.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Smogon context
The guys that banned sleep move because "Muh RNG" ?
4 months ago
Anonymous
gonna play colosseum again and go out of my way to use Qwilfish this time, love the little explosive bugger
>The hurt animations are mainly a problem when there's a multi-hit move like bullet seed or triple kick, or damaging weather
the full animations don't play though, and in the GameFreak games it takes even longer because it goes >hit 1, animation plays >watch health go down >hit 2, animation plays >watch health go down
etc. on repeat instead of just playing them all sequentially
The gen 1 and 2 models look atrocious because they are from literal N64 games and look jarring next to the gen 3 models. The only challenge comes from the annoyance of your own Pokemon disobeying you and the animations being time consuming. It makes simple things like catching Pokemon and leveling up more than a team of 6 a painfully tedious process. I'm almost done with Colosseum and the dread of playing XD afterwards is almost painful.
It's even more jarring in battle revolution vs the gen 4 models, but given a few got redone between the Japanese and US release I'd bet they would have replaced all the N64 models if it weren't rushed to hell to get pokemon on the wii asap.
My guess would be Nintendo, being the publisher and 1/3 of TPC on top of producing the console, pushing unreasonable deadlines up. It was used to demo several features of the wii prior to launch including the wii-ds connectivity and storing data on a wiimote, it was one of the first games released on the console (less than 2 weeks later in Japan) despite how little time a relatively small team like Genius Sonority would have had to focus entirely on it after xd came out vs no pokemon on the gamecube until 2 years after launch, and it clearly had several features in development when the trailer was made that got scrapped. Not having a game for one of their biggest franchises that definitely sells hardware until years after launch was a mistake Nintendo didn't want to repeat, even at the cost of a less polished game. Sure the ds sold great even before the delayed launch of gen 4, but it at least had mystery dungeon early on. And that's not even getting into the backstory of the devs and how the studio got shafted into what it is today which I don't currently have the screenshots handy to post, but someone else usually does in these threads.
It's even more jarring in battle revolution vs the gen 4 models, but given a few got redone between the Japanese and US release I'd bet they would have replaced all the N64 models if it weren't rushed to hell to get pokemon on the wii asap.
It is hard for a bunch of incompetent fools who stopped learning new things about the technology and industry that made them so successful in the first place. Game Freak are exactly the same as the boomers (real boomers, not the 30-something's the barely legal kiddos b***h about) who never learned how to use a computer despite having no intention of retiring soon 30-40 years ago when it was becoming clear that computers were going to be part of nearly everyone's job then everyday life long before they would be "too old". The bar Game Freak are being measured against given their background is less "send an email with an attachment" and more "implement an entity list to load/unload game objects as needed and iterate through it to update everything each frame" but it's the same root problem. They feel like once they got to a certain point they don't need to keep up anymore because the world owes them continued success for who they are/what they did in the past, when in reality life is a constant journey of learning and if you choose to stop adapting to the changing world around you then it's your own fault when you get left behind.
In another franchise this would be meh games, but GF has done such a bad job with its 3D games that it turns these 20+ year old games into gems, I'm not a fan of these games or the main modern games, but truth be told "When the food at home is so shit, any McDonald's becomes a 5-star restaurant."
Except all of GF's 3D games are better than Colosseum, evidenced by the fact that you need to keep mindlessly claiming Colosseum is better while not able to reference a single thing that makes it better.
The animations in Colosseum are actually high quality, and unlike SwSh, which was limited to 600 out of the 898 Pokémon that existed at the time, Colosseum actually allowed you to use all 386 Pokémon at the time, hell, GoD would later add Bonsly, albeit only in Battle Bingo.
Colosseum was always well regarded here, people like you only started complaining about it getting praise when you finally realised the main games were too shit to defend so you lash out instead
Samurai spirit, even mortally wounded, instead of accepting an honorable death, they use their last strength to try to cripple their rival, there are documents about this, with their belly open, lying on the ground, they pretended to be dead, just so that the rival would approach and they would give one last attack, they were not trying to kill their rival, but rather cut off his foot to make his life miserable, that was the extent of their resentment.
>Roster filled with shitmons like Ledian and fricking delibird >Purifying is annoying as hell >Absolutely moronic movesets on enemy pokemon and some of the shadow pokemon >Piss easy
Game is ass. Frick Colosseum and its wienersuckers.
Yes and it’s embarrassing bc they’re not even that good.
>XD
out
Who is that boy with blue hair
MC's annoying little c**t of a little sister
behead those hwo disrespect Jovi!
Jovi should be the next leader of Cipher in the sequel I made up in my head.
with a samus bosysuite
JOVI SEXO
Bueno
purified form if you are not a fan of bad girls
That is clearly a shiny Kirlia
>he doesn't know
Truly this board has gone to shit
go to ur retirement home boomer
The golden age of /vp/
that is my wife
CARLITO
CARLITO
sadly true
no, it's just nostalgia
Have they made a Grand Colosseum version of XD?
That was a good romhack
Pokemon XG
This mod was so much fun and going into it blind was great for what I was encountering.
Attempting to play it normally where I am managing a good stall team to catch Shadow Deoxys was nuts. A shame there is no way to change forms
no unless you like doing nothing but staring at slow animations 90% of the game.
What a moronicly accurate picrel
Pretty much unless you consider PMD2, but that has some pretty different gameplay.
Usually the people who complain about linearity in newer games also don’t like the GameCube games.
Also you are ignoring the biggest problem with Sun and Moon which is that it holds your hand and treats the player like an infant.
Colosseum and XD didn’t do that.
>Colosseum and XD didn’t do that
Yes it does.
No, Colosseum forces the player to actually beat consecutive battles without saving in between them. In every mainline you can save in between Pokémon League boss battles, meaning you can bypass the whole idea of having beat all 5 of them without losing because GameFreak thinks that is too much for children.
You can save more freely in XD, though not in the Orre Colosseum, which is some of the only good postgame content in any Pokémon game, even Colosseum has a shit post game.
> Colosseum forces the player to actually beat consecutive battles without saving
It doesn’t matter if they’re all easy.
Best games in general? Not even close, that goes to HGSS and B2W2.
Best 3D games? I'd say they're up there, if only because the console game's we're getting now could've been so much more.
Overlevelling Espeon and Umbreon/Eeveelution and Ursaring while refusing to use anything else like a moronic 6 year old is not how you play the game.
>Overlevelling Espeon and Umbreon/Eeveelution and Ursaring while refusing to use anything else like a moronic 6 year old is not how you play the game
source?
You’re replying to bait
>game with very few double battles
>game with nothing but double battles
it's as simple as that
USUM has double battles in all the fights that matter while also giving you a massive disadvantage which makes the game harder unlike Colosseum which is just piss easy and slow the entire way through.
>USUM has double battles in all the fights that matter
I want all of the fights to be double battles
>I want all the fights to be pointlessly slower
I want every move to be usable all of the time
Doubles are faster
>usum is hard meme
Back to plebbit you go.
>colosseum is hard meme
Back to plebbit you go.
>parroting.
concession accepted.
Colosseum's difficulty is based on extremely limited pokemon and movepools for most of them. Hell only your starters can even level up for the first few hours
limited pokemon selection doesn't matter when the best strategy is spamming the same 2 pokemon the entire game
Technically twice as hard as singles games where the best strategy is to spam one Pokémon the entire game.
no game with affection bonuses is hard
USUM is hard, but Kommo-o is fricking trivial and is probably the easiest totem fight in both games. Like, the battle is a fricking joke, you can blink at it and it's over instantly. Lurantis and both water trials are way harder, especially since they happen earlier in the game when you have less options.
Just don't use them moron. The only game where that's a valid excuse is BDSP, and guess what that's probably the worst fricking Pokemon game.
None of the Orre games are slow. The fact that all fights are doubles AND because it's gen 3, that means you switch out right away when a mon goes down means the fights are fast paced. What a stupid post.
>None of the Orre games are slow
Yeah I'm sure someone who hasn't actually played them would think this.
that's fricking cute
>Zigzagoon goes through his trainers legs after he is hurt
Holy SOVL!
>Electrike clips through his trainers legs after he is hurt
Holy SOVL!
Doing what? Having obnoxiously slow animations that make the game barely playable?
Seems like you really hate the hurt animations of the Colosseum games.
I get it, but it’s honestly my favorite part of the game.
It gives so many Pokémon so much more character, along with some of the fainting animations.
most animations in the colosseums were from stadium 2, which makes this particular criticism extra shortbus in my opinion
Personally the animations I like the most are from the Gen 3 mons.
this obviously came after colosseum, but really like honkrows animation(found it while getting the unown animation)
>I get it, but it’s honestly my favorite part of the game
This is easy to say for someone who doesn't actually play the game and can just watch redditors post clips in isolation instead of having to spend hours watching le ebin funny animations.
i grew up playing it, it's not a problem unless you're a zoomie with an attention span of a gnat. oh wait.
>i grew up playing it,
Exactly, now try playing it again as an adult and not a child with low IQ and poor memories of it.
I'm 25 and played it recently and it's still good.
i play consistently. i'm working on a team for the ho-oh challenge run.
I also replay these games fairly regularly, definitely more than any other pokemon game. Did ho-oh once back in 2005 for the sake of completing the dex in sapphire, I think I'll give that another go when I get back to my current run.
Frick, soul is overused on this forum, but this is lovely. Why the frick were we doing this twenty years ago, but not now?!
You were trying to refute his point yet you showed a game cube game doing what everyone has been asking of game freak ever since the mainline games made the jump to 3d
Post the dancing unown, I love that little fella
wow, giving unowns actual animations is way more work than id expect from a pokemon game, i expected them to just stiffly bob up and down in the air.
Strange, I swear the idle animations of the unown were them just floating around, or is that in stadium 2?
>Zigzagoon running in a zigzag.
KINO
The reason why Zigzagoon and Linoone are my favourite Pokemon to this date. Thank you Colosseum for being so based
Bro that's litterally 10 seconds long. What's your rush? enjoy the cute animations and try to relax and have fun or play something else
>Bro that's litterally 10 seconds long
yes now repeat that for every move for every turn and the game quickly becomes insufferable boring trash.
but hey at least I get to clap at how "SOUL" the animation is when I watch it in isolation with my zoomie friends on youtube!
typical zoomie homosexual cant slow down and enjoy things. i bet youd try and inhale a cigar in one drag you twit.
Modem late gen zoomers can’t watch anything long than 8 seconds
>THIS IS SO BADDDD AND SLOW NOOO
posts literal immense soul and what everyone was asking and hoping for from 3d pokemon
This. Good post..
They are slow as frick compared to the Gen 3 GBA games, that's just a consequence of using 3D models that are actually animated. Doesn't mean the games are bad.
>Having higher standards for a game running on 2003 hardware compared to 2017
Obviously if Col came out nowadays I would expect it to run quicker, but it was the absolute pinacle of what it was possible to do with Pokemon at the time
>a shitty gamecube game that reuses a bunch of N64 assets and slaps them into a boring short linear as frick campaign with barely any content was the pinnacle of what you could do with pokemon
grim
The game is great on an emulator because you can speed up the slow battle animations and work through the game relatively quick.
>game that babysits you and panders to trannies and instagram prostitutes with muh vacation trip setting
>game that actually tried a darker a more mature approach on pokemon for the first time
They’re polar opposites if anything, frick off
Nah. No game before the Physical/Special split is the best in the series
>I'm terrible at the game and have a poor understanding of its mechanics so that means the game is bad
>Butthurt Gengargays
Every time
were talking about the games not about your spreadsheet simulator smogtrannie
>gengar is good in a meta where it’s immune to or double resists nearly all physical moves
What a shock
Replaying Colosseum right now and it's making me realize how fricking bad the eeveelutions are
Umbreon just simply can't do damage early on because bite is special
Umbreon exists to Toxic stall shit. Use Espeon with Bite if you want something that deals Dark damage.
Espeon is a lot better. He’s not great but is a decent damage dealer/sweeper with calm mind. Umbreon is used to chip away at shadow Pokémon HP.
Umbreon’s role is to be unkillble. Espeon is the damage dealer.
umbreon is a stallmon, so expecting it to do damage its tarded. HOWEVER, if you dont or cant bring in something from the other games that learn spore and false swipe, its a good enough capture aid.
Espeon is there to rape the game. Probably the best pokemon in the game, hell both games even
>Can only get Ganlon, Salac, Petaya, and Apicot berries from these two games
>Can get Salac berries from the Battle CDs
>But that still requires fricking 45000 Poke Coupons for the other three
>Can do Battle Bingo in place of Mt. Battle, but after clearing a card it's randomized, making it that much harder
God damn what a pain in the ass
>Wimpy boy witnessing tall muscular blonde guy bullying frickable e-girl
This is NTR?
Any good LP's of it by cute girls with soft voices? I want it as background noise.
Any mods that let me turn off attack animations?
Anyone know if all the e-reader cards for Colosseum got archived in some usable manner? Injectable/emulator compatible would be preferable but I can print stuff on the good laser printer at work and get the e-reader itself from a local shop that had a few last time I was in there if need be.
https://myrient.erista.me/files/No-Intro/Nintendo%20-%20Game%20Boy%20Advance%20(e-Reader)/
This is every single e-Reader card (except for a few that are still lost, such as the 1st place Kirby Contest Card to name one.)
Thanks bro!
Yes, even with their numerous flaws
I'm completely convinced Game Freak had a hand in banishing Genius Sonority to shitty spinoffs like pokemon shuffle because they were embarassed that the 2 real pokemon games they got to make completely shat all over Game Freak entire catalog
I can see why people like the hurt animations from Stadium/Colosseum games but it would look super jank with the camera angles used in the actual games. Like imagine you use Surf in a double battle, then 3 Pokemon are simultaneously doing a 8-10 second long hurt animation before the next one attacks. It'd just be weird.
I can't beat this fight
The hurt animations are mainly a problem when there's a multi-hit move like bullet seed or triple kick, or damaging weather
You should have a couple of levitate/flying pokemon that should do very well in this fight, if nothing else just to switch into them when you expect an earthquake. Otherwise consider buying the protect tm for one of your main pokemon, the fight becomes considerably easier when you can withstand some more earthquakes and it'll keep being relevant throughout the game so it's not a bad investment
you gotta kill this guys pokemon in a certain order to capture entei. metang and golem first(it doesnt matter which order these go down) marshtomp will switch in as soon as one falls, but you should ignore him for now. kill camerupt next, which will cause entei to switch in without friendly fire. switch in umbreon to tickle entei into the capture zone. umbreon and quilava will take care of metang, crocnaw will destroy camerupt and golems anus. espeon, makuhita, and noctowl will be useful here as well.
there isnt any levitates available before you beat colosseums story mode, and the only flying type is noctowl. also, you need to complete the story to unlock trades.
holy frick this guy spams double team on every one of his pokemon and my only guaranteed-hit moves are espeon's swift (which does shit damage because pre-slip whoops!) and makuhita's vital throw
>there isnt any levitates available before you beat colosseums story mode
misdreavus has levitate
>and the only flying type is noctowl.
mantine
pre-split*
misdreavis and mantine are shitmons
you don't exactly get non-shitmons in this game
more than half your options are UU or OU teir at every point in the story, so no.
Like half the people who say this game is "hard" use the filler mons, there's no gameplay expectation of you actually using shit like Quilfish the game just wants you to have Espeon+Starter+Dogs+whatever shitmon you are purifying.
tbh Typhlosion is better than Entei because he gets fricked by fire being special
Meganium is obviously excluded I shouldn’t have to say that. But in the context of Colosseum there’s very obvious “wrong” Pokemon
Feraligatr is a bit broken compared to the other starters here, having Surf in this game where it only hits the enemy is super helpful.
Surf is great, he just needs a Rain Dance buddy to really push those numbers though.
can you possibly have a more wrong opinion? this game completely changed my opinion of the flaffy and makuhita lines
Yeah Makuhita is slept on.
>First shadow pokemon so best availability.
>Early Cross Chop fricks up a lot of things, moreso when it evolves.
>Evolves as soon as it's purified.
But both those Pokemon are only bad in a Smogon context. Like everyone uses mareep in G/S lol
smogon context is homosexual context. it gets more and more unhinged as time goes on because smogon was only created to groom children.
> Like everyone uses mareep in G/S lol
i didnt, i thought it was an early route shitmon like pidgey so the only pokemon i used from that route was natu.
>Smogon context
The guys that banned sleep move because "Muh RNG" ?
gonna play colosseum again and go out of my way to use Qwilfish this time, love the little explosive bugger
If Mantine had a better STAB he'd be pretty good in this game, good enough for this fight regardless . Misdreavis gets by for now
>The hurt animations are mainly a problem when there's a multi-hit move like bullet seed or triple kick, or damaging weather
the full animations don't play though, and in the GameFreak games it takes even longer because it goes
>hit 1, animation plays
>watch health go down
>hit 2, animation plays
>watch health go down
etc. on repeat instead of just playing them all sequentially
Got him on the second try
You're nuts man; it just saved the day
Mantine that is
They’re only the best for shitters scared to touch competitive.
>Literal Chad character.
The gen 1 and 2 models look atrocious because they are from literal N64 games and look jarring next to the gen 3 models. The only challenge comes from the annoyance of your own Pokemon disobeying you and the animations being time consuming. It makes simple things like catching Pokemon and leveling up more than a team of 6 a painfully tedious process. I'm almost done with Colosseum and the dread of playing XD afterwards is almost painful.
>PROPERLY MODELED ANIMATIONS?????AAAAAAAA NOOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T I PLAY SWSH OR SV WHERE THEY'RE LIFELESS?!??
>the animations are moronicly long, this means they're properly modeled somehow
Kys homo.
Zoom zoomie
It's even more jarring in battle revolution vs the gen 4 models, but given a few got redone between the Japanese and US release I'd bet they would have replaced all the N64 models if it weren't rushed to hell to get pokemon on the wii asap.
Who was in the wrong here?
My guess would be Nintendo, being the publisher and 1/3 of TPC on top of producing the console, pushing unreasonable deadlines up. It was used to demo several features of the wii prior to launch including the wii-ds connectivity and storing data on a wiimote, it was one of the first games released on the console (less than 2 weeks later in Japan) despite how little time a relatively small team like Genius Sonority would have had to focus entirely on it after xd came out vs no pokemon on the gamecube until 2 years after launch, and it clearly had several features in development when the trailer was made that got scrapped. Not having a game for one of their biggest franchises that definitely sells hardware until years after launch was a mistake Nintendo didn't want to repeat, even at the cost of a less polished game. Sure the ds sold great even before the delayed launch of gen 4, but it at least had mystery dungeon early on. And that's not even getting into the backstory of the devs and how the studio got shafted into what it is today which I don't currently have the screenshots handy to post, but someone else usually does in these threads.
Is the Colosseum's Ho-oh shiny locked?
Yes. If you want a shiny Ho-oh you'll need to reach Navel Rock in FRLG/Emerald and hunt the one there.
It has the best Blastoise Hydro Pump
They're certainly up there.
Best? I dunno but they're really really great
It's not a high bar. Frick, the bar is so low that I'm convinced Gamefreak is making an effort to make the games shit.
It's not hard to do better.
It is hard for a bunch of incompetent fools who stopped learning new things about the technology and industry that made them so successful in the first place. Game Freak are exactly the same as the boomers (real boomers, not the 30-something's the barely legal kiddos b***h about) who never learned how to use a computer despite having no intention of retiring soon 30-40 years ago when it was becoming clear that computers were going to be part of nearly everyone's job then everyday life long before they would be "too old". The bar Game Freak are being measured against given their background is less "send an email with an attachment" and more "implement an entity list to load/unload game objects as needed and iterate through it to update everything each frame" but it's the same root problem. They feel like once they got to a certain point they don't need to keep up anymore because the world owes them continued success for who they are/what they did in the past, when in reality life is a constant journey of learning and if you choose to stop adapting to the changing world around you then it's your own fault when you get left behind.
>It's not hard to do better.
You're right. Which is why every single one of GF's games is objectively better than the Genius Sonority slop.
Colosseum got some memes.
>Colosseum
>Good
I know the switch games mindbroke the fanbase but that doesn't automatically make that boring slog good.
In another franchise this would be meh games, but GF has done such a bad job with its 3D games that it turns these 20+ year old games into gems, I'm not a fan of these games or the main modern games, but truth be told "When the food at home is so shit, any McDonald's becomes a 5-star restaurant."
Except all of GF's 3D games are better than Colosseum, evidenced by the fact that you need to keep mindlessly claiming Colosseum is better while not able to reference a single thing that makes it better.
Not even worth a (You)
The animations in Colosseum are actually high quality, and unlike SwSh, which was limited to 600 out of the 898 Pokémon that existed at the time, Colosseum actually allowed you to use all 386 Pokémon at the time, hell, GoD would later add Bonsly, albeit only in Battle Bingo.
Sorry you got filtered
Colosseum was always well regarded here, people like you only started complaining about it getting praise when you finally realised the main games were too shit to defend so you lash out instead
I blame that dumb prostitute tama making a shitty vid recently on why it's apparently bad and now a bunch of morons and simps wanna parrot it.
the genius sonority games made gamefreak seethe so fricking much, its why you dont see anymore at all
>the genius sonority games made gamefreak seethe so fricking much
Pray tell
>After Battle Revolution, they basically get delegated to mobile games
Why are the Japanese so jealous?
Hey, we got 3 good Denpa Men games out of it, we did alright.
Samurai spirit, even mortally wounded, instead of accepting an honorable death, they use their last strength to try to cripple their rival, there are documents about this, with their belly open, lying on the ground, they pretended to be dead, just so that the rival would approach and they would give one last attack, they were not trying to kill their rival, but rather cut off his foot to make his life miserable, that was the extent of their resentment.
>Roster filled with shitmons like Ledian and fricking delibird
>Purifying is annoying as hell
>Absolutely moronic movesets on enemy pokemon and some of the shadow pokemon
>Piss easy
Game is ass. Frick Colosseum and its wienersuckers.
Wow you just described every game made GF by post 2012
post 2010*
filled with shitmons like Ledian and fricking delibird
you have to keep in mind that gen 3 needed some way to get johto mons
*filters 10yos*
Evice is the only "hard" fight and even then its easy to prevent the slaking cheese strat.