Is it unethical to pretend to have ethernet when you really have wifi in fighting games?
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Is it unethical to pretend to have ethernet when you really have wifi in fighting games?
might as well just buy a lag switch at that point
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How come my wifi connection has less variance than his wired one?
>How come my wifi connection has less variance than his wired one?
Just a lucky fluke where you didn't have any interference while running a test.
because the morons seething about wifi are third worlders with shit connection regardless who don't realize that's simply not a problem for most of us regardless
you're just scared that once you plug in a cable and your opponent will be able to play against you without you wi-fi STD lag, they will no longer drop their combos and kick your butt
>see that the connection is laggy
>go for frame perfect combo instead of easy b&b
>drop it
>"fricking wifi morons REEEEEE"
Not defending them entirely but learn how to adapt you lab monkeys
this is the most moronic shit i've read all week lmao
>yeah bro just magically guess how many frames of lag there are and mathematically compute in your head in real time how many frames early you have to do your combo
you clearly have not ever played a fighting game in your entire life. frick off dipshit
Any fighting game worth playing will have a frame delay shown, or just be rollback and work fine on wifi if it's WiFi 6 and you don't keep your router in a microwave. I've played with people on different continents and managed so maybe it's just a skill issue
yeah dude pro players who get paid to play 8 hours a day every day still drop combos when there's lag. it's random, you literally cannot just "durr adjust on the fly" because the lag is RANDOM and happens INSTANTLY. it can happen IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMBO. frick all the way off bro
calling an incel who plays video games all day a "pro player" is like calling a prostitute a "pro sex haver"
>people that are better than me are incels
cope.
if you do it as a job you're a professional. there are people who play fighting games as a job. prostitutes are professional sex havers, yes quite literally.
nobody gives a frick about your opinions, they're worthless and have no bearing on how reality functions
wew lad the incel vitriol in this post is powerful
I didn't say just adapt, I said do a more forgiving combo. The only wifi people I ever consistently have problems with are people playing on consoles
thirdies have better internet than you burgers
Probably because that dude's network environment isn't that good or you are doing some shit like putting the radio right up to your computer. There's plenty of things you can do to make wifi less shit, but it's always going to be worse than a wired connection on a given network assuming identical conditions. There is no benefit to wifi except convenience. The reality is though, most shithead gamers know nothing about wifi let alone networks and how to optimize them and they don't have access to better hardware. No your gayman router from walmart is not better hardware.
>t. designs commercial networks for a living
>yeh bros I just tested it and over the course of 10 seconds there was no issue
Just keep pinging moron.
here's 1k packets over 15 minutes then
There's a whole floor between my pc and my router
now do it again but microwave something
if he's not using 2.4GHz microwave will do nothing anon
>15 min
Give me 1 hour.
Your connection has a lower ping because you live closer to that node.
Your TTL is twice as large because your computer inherently knows that your data reliability fricking sucks and expects you to regularly spike.
most people have more than one device connected to wifi
multiple devices on wifi are timesliced, meaning there will always be jitter present
oh yeah and it's also timesliced between multiple routers in close proximity
so if you live alone AND you don't live in a crowded apartment building AND you only have one computer then wifi can theoretically perform well
>then wifi can theoretically perform well
Nope, it will always be prone to interference.
That's exactly the thing. If there's zero interference, it doesn't matter how vulnerable you are to it. Zero is zero. But yeah in practice that doesn't really happen unless you live in Green Bank
You have a Cat5. Upgrade to Cat7
And then you lag in the actual match and get dropped and blacklisted after one set
Why are wi-fi Black folk so moronic?
Okay but have you ever felt the warmth of a woman?
Why you so salty when it's true tho? You seriously can't afford a $1 Ethernet cable and just plug it in bruh?
So no, you haven't.
Why are you so salty when it's true that you are a virgin and will die one?
How do you expect to keep a stable relationship if you don't even have a stable connection
Gottem!
I just asked my daughter and she said wifi Black folk get the rope
Wifi and waifu are not the same thing, moron.
Are you moronic?
Yeah but protip knock them out before you set them on fire
I'm guessing people who pay for their own internet and have control over their router and where it is in the house/apartment are more likely to have had sex than children/manchildren who live in the basement and are leeching off their parents' Wi-Fi.
I did once. I prefer men now
Why doesn't the game just make better netcode? No other genre has this problem.
Why not just buy an ethernet cable? Other players don't have that problem
I have an ethernet cable. I'm top 5 percent in Multiversus so I'm a fighting game expert, I'll have you know.
I played on wifi and I'm top 0.1% (peaked top 200 before I quit playing during the valentine's day event last year)
Only connection issues I ever experienced were against consolegays
Fighting games have some of the more advanced netcode solutions these days. Other genres just don't have the constant timing synchronization requirements Fighting games do. Even with FPS it just get's overlooked unless it's a super low TTK game and the lag spike happens right as shots are fired.
>Fighting games have some of the more advanced netcode solutions these days
lmao
Yes
I lag in the actual match anyway because although my connection to my modem is wired my modem is then wireless to a tower in town
>ESP
It would fricking be third worlders doing this shit.
Fricking based. In a competitive game you have to leverage every advantage you can get, and if that means "deceiving" cablegays into getting stomped, then so be it.
It's 100% ethical. If they don't like it then maybe they should be able to detect when you're spoofing an ethernet connection.
I'm using ethernet to an AP, so its basically wifi
if you lag i plug
this doesn't solve anything except wastes your own time. if you wouldve shown me you were a wifi Black person in the first place i'd have simply declined the match. now you pretend you're not a third world immigrant? well it will be apparent when the match begins, so have fun searching again after I plug your homosexual ass lmao
Wireless wi-fi needs to universally banned from all games IMHO
>Wireless Wi-FI
>wireless wi-fi
>Doing all this instead of just getting an ethernet cable
I genuinely, firmly, honestly believe 99% of wifi players live with their parents are are probably underaged and can't convince them to get an ethernet cable.
some people don't live in small apartments and have the area they want to game in a significant distance away from the router
I live in a three story house. You know you can run ethernet cables around in the walls just like any other wires right? In fact, it's rentoids that are more likely to be on wifi since they can't make any changes to their apartment to do that.
>it's rentoids that are more likely to be on wifi since they can't make any changes to their apartment to do that.
I'd like to see anyone stop me. I just pulled the cables and patched the holes, that's it.
everytime ive seen someone go 'i cant drag an ethernet cable all the way across the house' imention ethernet powerline adapters they go 'wow i never knew that existed'
do no be fooled by their weak excuses, they havent even done the 3 seconds of research to look at possible solutions. there is no cure for lazy fricks who dont even want to solve their own issues
>ping
literally irrelevant, its about stability and consistency you fricking mong.
>ethernet powerline adapters
literally worse than wifi
objectively false unless youre house is from like the 1800s
Mine is from the late 70s, power is still too fricking filthy whenever an appliance is running, powerline was fricking cancer compared to a good wifi 6 router and NIC. From what I know wifi 6E basically matches ethernet at close range but it has poor penetration.
Yeah it works pretty well when you're very close with zero obstructions. Thing is, at those ranges you might as well just plug in the damn cable. It's only really useful for something like a switch or a deck that you don't want to tie down with a cable.
I'm on ethernet now but when I switched to powerline from wifi my occasional hitching and lag spikes from packets dropping disappeared.
>there is no cure for lazy fricks who dont even want to solve their own issues
it's not their issues though
it's your issue, making a problem out of nothing
It's my experience when you're playing with me and fricking my game up.
bullshit. played with a dude who complained about his wifi for years. I kept telling him to either ethernet over power or go the Chad route and buy a spool of ethernet to run under the house or in the attic. for like $100 you can get the spool, the wall plates, and the tools necessary to run it (not including the tools every man should own like a drill or razorknife)
I have lower ping on wifi than you third worlders have on wired.
you have packet loss cause your mom is microwaving your hotpockets homosexual
>yo i'm too fat to git up n drag a cable
Read you loud and clear bruh
>wi-fi users will do literally anything to avoid buying a $5 cable
>im too far away from the router
I've used this shit before and it's worse than wifi
Don't fall for this meme. These things are terrible. Set up a proper ethernet connection, you don't need a fricking wire going directly from the router to your PC.
>Set up a proper ethernet connection, you don't need a fricking wire going directly from the router to your PC.
wdym? That is an ethernet connection... the cable has to go from your router to your pc
these fricking things are SHIT
do not buy them
fricker turns off on me every fricking day, and wouldn't reset until I unplugged it
get a real cable, don't frick around with these cheap pieces of (usually) chinese shit
Why not just plug it in directly?
Does that... Does that work?
The Etherkiller does exactly what it was designed to do, yes.
It's an upgrade cable, it works great for its intended purpose.
>company says no upgrades to functioning machines will be accepted
>only broken equipment will be replaced
so when a machine needs an upgrade, you just plug the upgrade cable in it and wala
Not like that, no. Power over ethernet does exist, but it's weird specialized equipment. It was a funky-ass 56 volt system or something like that.
>has a wireless part
>ethernet
Lmao
That's not wireless. It communicates through your houses power infrastructure.
Reminds me of a friend who claimed he was on cable because he had a cable running from his phone to his computer.
Powerline doesn't work well, but MoCA adapters work great. If your house has a cable line.
lole you don't see starcraft players complain about this nonexistent problem
>filters amerimutts
Why do you care what Americans do? If you're in Europe in theory you shouldn't even be playing with them. Are you really going out of your way to play with people in a different continent then complaining about lag?
Fraud is bad yes.
Not all fraud. Tax fraud is our god-given right.
I play on a 4G mobile connection with 20 ping and 1 jitter, it's not my problem that NDIS gets detected as Ethernet.
Fraud is bad yes.
is wifi really that terrible nowadays? I never lag playing ASShomosexualS. But im like 2-3 meters away from the router
>nowadays
>screenshots from 2020
Nibba
fighting games are frame-based.
when the difference between you blocking and punishing for a full combo or getting launched for a full combo is a 2 frame window, even a little bit of network interference can frick everything up and lead to very frustrating experiences. fighting games are the genre in which network interference matters the most. sure other games have moments where a frame or two of lag might make a difference, but generally it doesn't. whereas pretty much every interaction in a fighting game can be ruined by a frame or two of lag
>frame-based.
so it's only the sweaties that care then?
So by not using ethernet I can both save my time AND screw over sweaty morons who've spent hundreds of hours practicing combos?
Why would I not do this?
the only people that will suffer are low rankers who don't even realize what's happening. for them facing wifi is normal and they think that's just how the game plays
go higher than that and people just block you after one match so you never meet again
It is always terrible and it is always going to be terrible. You don't see it when you're lagging, your opponents do and you're causing them to drop the combo. Get wired!
>it's the enemy's fault I lost!
yes that is the point of games
If your surroundings are not too congested and you have WiFi 6 you won't notice a difference.
Reason being that on WiFi 6 each device gets their own narrowband share of the frequency. So no collisions and renegotiation, as if you are alone in a micro WiFi. On WiFi 5 and prior every client was competing for "air time".
That WiFi 6 sounds pretty good. But I still feel that Wi-Fi was a mistake that never should've happened.
>you dont see it when you're lagging
i have a stable 5ms when playing and it never fluctuates. No ones complaining about me too. And thats from a 5v5 game
a 5v5 game has a dedicated server, and you're just one of 10 clients. Any individual having a lagfest won't dramatically hinder the other players other than having to see some guy teleport around.
it's a very different experience in a game that's P2P that will actually come to a halt if the other peer just drops a frickton of packets at random
wifi players are like Black folk, they wont shut the frick up about your "elitism" but they wont leave you alone, they would rather be around you and bother you than deal with each other, entitled little homosexuals with no self awareness
With WiFi 5? Yes. With WiFi 6? No.
plugged and blocked
gg ez
>pretend to be using Ethernet
>everyone can still tell that you're not only a wifi peasant but a liar
wow you really showed them, buy or make a cable you cheap frick.
you literally cannot tell though
it's all in your head
What purpose does wifi even serve on a fixed device like a desktop PC or console?
When you are the kid or husband of a woman that won't allow an ugly cable (channel) running through the rooms or live in laughing stock Murcia where you can't even drill a hole into an apartment wall.
Convenience is the usual excuse. Cable box is in this room, computer / console is in another, don't want an ugly cable on the floor connecting those two and hiding the cable inside a wall or a conduit is too much work.
This post is from four years ago. Has any data come out since then to say whether wifi players really do have worse connections?
Plug pulling should get you softbanned for 24h
>sweaties
is everyone saying “just get an eth cable” living in those drywall houses? to be up to code I’d have to tear down half my home to run separated conduits
Is this an american thing? Why can't you just run the cable along the wall-panel?
Because that's haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard
why don't you install a pipe going from your room directly to the toilet?
Because i'd have to put my chair too high to get the slope right.
just poke a hole through the chair and stick the pipe in so it goes directly into your butthole
Is that an american thing too?
I'm not fat and can walk to the toilet just fine?
the type of person who fumes over the idea of someone using wifi because it makes their hours of studying frame data useless weighs no less then 300 pounds
It's the people using Wi-Fi who are too lazy to drag a cable that's fat. They're so damn lazy that I wouldn't be surprised if they drag their feet on the ground, so if they were to plug in a cable, they'd probably trip on the damn thing every time they had to leave the room.
fatties really think "yeah I exercise because I moved a cable once" LOL
Well at least they managed to do so, unlike some other "fit people"
>plays wi-fi through concrete walls
run the cable, you Black person
Just get CMR or CMP rated CAT, it's not that much more expensive per spool.
Even old houses have ethernet cabling now, at least in the real world.
Just run it under the carpet.
You could even nail some wire clips to the tops of the door frames like I do. Nobody's going to give a shit about a few pinholes and if they do it's trivial to fix. You could probably even do something with double sided tape
>who has cords around
>all you need is a cord
Why not just use ethernet at that point?;
Why games like Blazblue or Melty Blood don't have a wifi indicator yet? You have to sit through a 5 minute intro just because they don't want to plug a fricking cable
Don't leave over a frame drop then shitter noob
Take your loss like a man
The author of that should be executed. I am not joking nor I play Tekken.
I hate 3rd worlders so much bros it's unreal
no, you should play whoever the frick you're matched against homosexuals, segregating your playerbase is always fricking clown world
wifi hasn't been a major component of latency since 5ghz 802.11n
Depending on your setup, yeah.
My internet router delivers 2 Megabytes per second. My wireless desktop antenna is rated for 4. It caps out the usage at all times and never dips. You're literally a moron if you can't understand how ethernet can sometimes not make a difference. I get more drops when I'm on ethernet than when I'm not.
People's real problem that they're too fricking stupid and inept to put into words is that they hate bad connections, which is absolutely not a problem with wifi. My connection is bad on ethernet anyways morons.
moron
My friend moved and has some ghetto ass 5G wi-fi, and he can't even host online games because he'll lag out. I keep telling him to at least plug an ethernet cable from the router to this computer instead of being wi-fi -> router -> wi-fi but he doesn't want to. Why are wi-fitards like this? Takes him ages to download games too but I can download a 70gb game in 3 minutes.
>doing all this shit instead of just buying a cable
they are literally $20 for 100 feet of ethernet at home depot of all places. if you have to do this level of gymnastics to justify not improving your own experience you shouldn't be playing.
>but muh small apartment
bullshit, run the cable along the corners and figure it out. your ancestors could build homes with their bare hands and you can't plug a cable into an outlet.
>b-but it's good enough
it could be better and you know it, you have no excuse
The problem is homosexuals like you ruining it for them. They played just fine until you came along and said "NO. Absolutely not".
Why fix something that isn't broken? Especially when the only people screaming they're broken are esl Ganker shitters who have never touched a wireless device in the modern age to see that they work fine.
This is just evolution and arms race dynamics. If you're a c**t and remove people's ability to play, then they'll respond in turn and adapt to your bullshit. You brought this on yourselves.
Imagine paying for a fricking game only to have developers change it 2 years later so you can't play after autists shit and piss and screech about you enough. Unreal lol. Good sign to avoid this garbage company.
>i have a right to knowingly ruin the experience for others after being informed
ngmi, you probably get carried by your main anyway
I don't play gay homosexual games because I'm not a manchild. I don't get "carried" because I play casually with groups of 5 friends when I do decide to play your garbage. And when I do, it's always wireless, because I have a wife and kid to spend money on instead of stupid bullshit to shut up screeching adult babies.
Seethe and cry more but I WILL avoid your wifi detection bullshit, and I am not alone.
lmao lotta insecurity here
The only thing insecure is my wifi connection, which I am NOT turning off because some manchild told me to. We're all insecure moron, your comment means NOTHING.
What a shitty argument. You could apply it to anything from lag switches to aim bots.
You sound like one of those MONEY STOLEN gays
is wifi that bad?
I get that ethernet is faster. But wouldnt ping matter the most.
no see
WiFi increases packet loss significantly.
Ping is bearable because you can adjust to a shit connection with someone else.
What cannot be adjusted to is Jitter. Wireless communication is in the fricking air, so it will always be susceptible to interference. That interference manifests itself as a jittery connection that cannot maintain a stable ping of any quality.
Listen to this dude, he gets it. Also, an Ethernet cable is like what $5? Surely you can skip a watermelon and some chicken for one night?
Nah, consistency is the big thing. Ping going between 20 and 100 feels far worse than it staying at a steady 100.
watch
>connection: wifi in the living room
>character: modern ken
>country of birth: brasil
>playing: on my 5 year old laptop
>year of birth: 2007
>twitch: on
>mum and dad: asleep
yep, it's gamin' time
>not using a 56k dial up connection and playing online
Used to do that in late 90's, before consumer ADSL became a thing up here. Four digit ping made some games a bit tricky.
I swear you WiFi bawds are ****ing impossible, and I will forever be thankful to Team Tekken for adding the ability to see the other player's connection type. I'll decline every last one of you and make you sure your WiFi STD doesn't touch my cable!
this guy is a fricking moron, the insinuation that only "nerds" have an ethernet connection is completely backwards
the only reason to use wifi is if you still live with your parents or live in some kind of assisted living (e.g. a dorm or a barracks)
what the frick is stopping you from using an ethernet cable if you're not a child and pay for your own internet?
>All this fricking work
I just plug my cable into the Ethernet port on the wifi router
>do a packet loss and jitter tests
>both on par with wired connections according to what ive looked at
>been playing fgs on WiFi for years and no one ever b***hed about lags i even played some streamers
Am i an unicorn? Is my WiFi godlike?
>ESP
of course it's a spic
Why do wifigays get so upset people don't wanna vs them? Can't they just play with each other?
They're like invasion gays. They aren't having fun unless they're making someone as miserable as they are
Of course they won't play with each other. Playing against wifigays is suffering even other wifigays don't want to go through. That's the entire reason they try to cheat the system, to get better matches.
Imagine knowing that something's wrong with your setup and still double dipping lmao.
If I was a dev I'd ban you from my game for doing this.
Realistically can't devs just check the average connection quality of people then match them with other people with the roughly the same connection quality?
no because then you'd end up with shit quality vs shit quality and the game would be unplayable and disconnect
>shit quality vs shit quality
That just means its working isn't it?
From a technical standpoint yes, but from a business view no because you would be actively punishing and pushing away customers which is bad for making money even if they are filthy wifi Black folk who deserve it.
Thats how it should be. Not just connection indicator but jitter, throttling and packet loss tests and for PC nigs also fps benchmark. Jamal thinks that his ghetto dial up dogshit connection is good solely because hes da wired n shiet when thats not the case at all.
the only downside to wifi is potential issues regarding reliability. there is a slight chance that your connection may drop depending on your environment, factors such as living in a heavily populated area (specifically in a high rise building), or sharing your network with a household who are using it heavily, if neither of those aforementioned factors applies to you, then that chance of your network dropping is next to 0% and your connection is essentially as stable as ethernet. with 6E the connection speed is 5.4gbps which is more than enough for online gaming - what matters more is your internet provider. if you're an american and you're complaining about wifi users, the bigger problem you should complain about is your shit internet providers, because you all have shit internet over there.
>usually have alright ping/rollback at ~30-100/0-3 for fighting games in my region
>get paranoid if its my cheap ass network being the problem when I get 300+/6+ ping/rollback games
Actually, fighting games should never be played over the internet at all.
Only correct post in this thread, go to your locals NOW
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