>is literally just a reused Asylum Demon from Dark Souls 1
how did they get away with this?
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>is literally just a reused Asylum Demon from Dark Souls 1
>is literally just a reused Asylum Demon from Dark Souls 1
how did they get away with this?
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If only you knew how deep the rabbithole really goes
Oh shit
Is that the origin of the model? What game?
enchanted arms, fromsoft's 2006 jrpg flop
oh shit i played that and 100% trophy'd it, what a shitty game
so shitty you platted it?
shit man i'm so sorry this shitty thing happened to you and you had to experience this shit
It's a stray demon from DS3. You can tell because the DS1 fatass demon animations could only hit you if you were blind and moronic.
>release the same game for 7 titles straight
>UMMM IS THAT A REUSED ENEMY, SWEATY??
not nearly as frickable as the assylum demon
Reusing assets is based and makes games better.
This
could you imagine a soulsborne game where they literally just mashed everything together? I'd literally pay 100 bucks and 40 a monthly for dlc. Literally create nothing new. Just mash it all together
They do it all the time. The imps in Elden Ring for example use some of the same animations as those speedy frickers in the undead settlement in DS3. And Erdtree Avatars are straight up the Stray Demon with a new model and a couple new attacks.
Omenkillers are also Capra Demons who even still got the tail bones on their animation skeleton.
Is the flame breath attack a new animation or did Capra have a breath attack that was cut?
omens are also the harald knights from DS3
Death Birds are Oceiros
I thought they were King of Storms
Shame they dont have the headshot animation now that you have jumping and how bloated they are in hp
And Harald Kinghts are just infested barbarians
And the windmill village women are the generic hollows from Undead Settlement. They even make the same noises. Omens are probably modified haralds from ringed city, both wield curved swords. Trolls are DS3 giants, the holographic skeletons that shoot laser beams probably use Wolnir as a base since neither have legs, I think people connected dragonkins to something but I don't remember what. The lordsworn soldiers use some of the same animations as lothric knights.
>The imps in Elden Ring for example use some of the same animations as those speedy frickers in the undead settlement in DS3.
FRICK! I knew they looked familiar. Only started playing recently and I immediately knew I recognized their movements from somewhere.
I'm pretty sure they make the same noises too. Worst enemies in the game, fricking despise them
With the amount of Imp heads it really was weird how they only had cat (based on axe Thralls) and Dog(based on Flamberg Thralls).
It implies that besides being lazy with recycling the Thrall animations they may have intended to add more variations with the Fanged. Bearded and Corpse.
I loved the fight with the stray asylum demon in the basement area. It always felt so epic for some reason
is there a single original enemy in elden ring? The red wolves maybe?
>The red wolves maybe?
Rune Bears, Albinaurics, Snake men. Demihumans.
Aren't snake men just serpents from Sen's fortress?
No? As far as I can tell every Snake Man in each souls game is a completely different animation set up. Not sure about the DeS Snakemen though.
they use completely different animations and attacks
this thread isnt about reused concepts its about reused skeletons
Royal Revenant
Miyazaki when he saw the first revenant design
>perfect, make sure to have an area with like 5 of those things
>what does this do?
it spews toxic vomit and smacks the shit out of you
>perfect put it in a tiny square room and call it a boss
FRICK FRICK FRICK FROMSISTERS HOW DO WE RESPOND???
>AAA I'M LOSIN MY MIND
would you want from software to crunch for 2 months straight just so they can make another boss fight from scratch
Fromslopers don't care about quality. Remember when people hated 3 Asylum Demon fights in DS1? People don't say shit about 20 of them now.
I don't even mind enemies getting recycled across games but
>People don't say shit about 20 of them now.
this shit kills me & the vast majority of people just lap that shit up. I'm gonna have spoil every souls game going forward by looking at a guide to avoid recycled bosses now.
>20 Asylum daemons
>20 deathbirds
>20 dragons
>20 wyrms
>20 crucible knights
>20 giants
>20 giant cat statues
I hate Elden SLOP so fricking much and I hate the normietards who jumped on it because muh open world muh game of throne lardass, ensuring that from now on we'd only get open world slop with lazily made maps full of reused enemies, crafting materials, reused dungeons, reused important buildings, until the end of time.
>20 crucible knights
These are actually fun with parry build so I'm forgiving this one.
He's a classic boss present in every souls games
capra demon was also reused,he's the enemy with the jap demon helmet
These sewer slugs in DS3 were just repurposed as bipedal enemies. Fricking lazy.
Oh shit, that's where the revenant animations are from.
>sewer slugs
have you ever seen a slug in your life
I don't get the point of this webm
its making fun of dark souls 3's roll
Are you for real?
>torches cast shadows in ds2, a game from the PS3 era. ER/DS3 has none of that
>water impends your movements, again none of that in the new games
>water extincts your torch if you roll in it, not of that happens in ER/DS3
Also I hate how dark souls 3 is just a rolling simulator for dexgays and the webm is doing a good job showing it.
There's lots of wrong with DS3
Here is the truth. There is nothing wrong with reused assets when it is done right. FROMSOFT knows how to do it correctly. Other developers don't. It is that simple.
Fallingstar Beasts are Blazing Bulls.
I also have the feeling that those frog things with the big eyes are reused but I could be wrong. I mean, no one would reuse such a distinct design over multiple games, right?
I hope they never get rid of the basilisks
still putting on their little, invisible hats, after all these years...
>not only repurposed to be a boss in ER, but also reused about a dozen times like everything in this ubislop meme game
fromslurp does it again
aren't ulcerated tree spirits the unused pus of man boss that was datamined from Dark Souls 3? I like when unused shit like that is found only to be found in new games later on
As were the big wolves.
>300 hours in Dark Souls 1
>500 hours in Elden Ring
>picrel is one of my favorite enemies to fight
They are not even remotely the same, and it the asset has been reused then it has been tweaked so much it hardly matters anymore.
>Actually liking the Erdtree Avatar
Okay, explain this one to me. Both the regular and variants.
Autistic fromtrannies love doing the same task and falling the same boss over and over again. Erdtree avatars have a very simplistic and easy to remember moveset so they can play it while their mind is thinking about their next HRT and dilation session.
Brother, I think you need to spend some time away from this place.
>is literally yian-kut-ku, rathian, rathalos, gravios, basariosl, diablos, monoblos, gypceros, cephadrome and khezu from the same game
how did they get away with this?
Monster Hunter is such a slop series with such a cucked playerbase that it isn't even worth pointing out.
No. Mechanically Monster hunter is the perfect serie, with a constant increase in challenge the more you play, addictive item rewards and amazing maps.
Frankly I'd be alright with all the bosses and enemies being reused in ER if it was using the same steady difficulty curve and reward system. Because how do I play ER?
I start in limgrave, it's alright for a while, then I start rolling on everything minus the bosses, then the same thing in liurnia and the academy, there's some difficulty bumps in caelid but then it equalizes again and I roll once again on everything, then another difficult spike in the plateau, then I roll on everything, then again in the mountaintop, then I roll on everything.
You'd think "well it's how difficulty works it gets harder the more you progress".
Ok but the moment I start killing everything mindlessly it stays like that for DOZEN of hours before the next difficulty spike, AND it's full of reused enemies, and repetitive places and empty fields. Elden Ring is seriously bloated in a bad way. With more than half of my playtime dying of boredom completing dungeons and open spaces without a struggle. No I wasn't using magic, I'm redoing it again no shield with a Knight's great sword and I have another half of liurnia to do and it's such a fricking BORE
Your mind is going to be really blown when you realize Juzou the Drunkard and his variants are also just riffs on the Asylum demon and its variants as well
Isn't the drunkard reused to make the omen guys? They have the same stance.
omenkillers are reskinned capra demons
imps are reskinned thralls
>omenkillers are reskinned capra demons
Yeah but they have so many new moves does it really count? I'm more shocked at the imp statues being everywhere and having the same moves the thieves in DS3 did.
>so many new moves
they spit fire
they do their leaping overhead 3 times instead of just once (with no fricking recovery or cooldown because this is elden ring and everything needs to be MORE MORE MORE)
I don't know of any other 'new move' they have
They don't have another heavy attack? I don't remember them only spitting fire and doing three jump attacks.
Thats why we need Dark souls2-II
I unironically agree. Dark Souls 2 has a lot of good elements. Elden Ring brought back powerstancing. Now they need to bring back water slow movement, torch light mechanics and more of the original idea of the lighting of Dark Souls 2 E3
Elden Ring powerstancing is neutered. And duel wielding still sucks.
All the shacks are the first house from Undead Settlement with the bonfire in it.
Hate that. Was excited visiting the frienzied village and oh boy it's just another place with the same crappy shanty town buildings that you can't enter copy pasted.
From loves reusing assets
Indeed
is this the spider from demon's souls? lmao crazy how before dark souls fromsoftware was literal shovelware company, kuon is only good game they ever made btw
Yeah
Ironically, the "Armored" Spider has less armor than the Ninja Blade one.
Weird how Armored Spider has that grabby claw limb that Dragonfly Larva have.
The tree snake dragons are also recycled from the black parasite snake arm monsters in DS3
More specifically the were a boss that From had the foresight to cut from DS3 because it was shit. Guess they were desperate for content in ER.
People get irrationally mad at tree spirits for some reason. It's like no one really understood "what was an attack" and what wasn't.
My main problem is that when you are in melee range, the majority of it's attacks will now come from off screen (or just flat up clip through a wall). Also it's explosion, which has an aoe from the body but also explosions appearing on the ground far away. Most of its moves are actually very easy to read when you can see them, so it feels more like I'm fighting the camera than an actual boss. Which is annoying because if I wanted a camera challenge, I could put a blind fold on.
Anone got that
>left: DEEP LORE TEXTURE FROM DARK SOULS EXPLAINING THE BACKSTORY OF CHARACTER X
>right: same texture on random pillar in Pool of Radiance 2 (or something)
image by any chance?
DaS III crabs looked like they were hollows once.
FROM could just use a randomizer on the last game they made for every new release and no one would notice
they did it with elden ring
AI will blaze a path forward that will let them do even more with exceeding efficiency.
Enjoy
ok why rig up and re texture and re-animate the same skeleton 7 times? just use the same cool animations you made 15 years ago. don't people b***h already about how long it takes to make games? if they remade every single thing every time, it'd take a decade to make one game of this scale
Hey genius, these animations and ideas started somewhere. If a whole game had to be made up of new animations then, why not now? Because it hard? It so very very hard? My heart truly bleeds for the corporation I am giving money to for a product.
well no shit they originally made them, but when you make a new game why just throw the old work out? that would be foolish, when it can be repurposed and used again in some fashion alongside even more new content. that's exactly what they have done this entire time. i don't know what else to say on this matter. it makes perfect frickin sense to me
Because it's immersion breaking to see asset reuse. Why not just reuse stories and characters and music? I mean come on, making games is so hard!!! Cough up the $60 they need it to help them port assets between engines!!!
>Why not just reuse stories and characters and music?
They already do.
>hear the gwyn motif reused
>AAAAHHHH! MY IMMERSION!
>between engines
Lmao, you wish they’ve updated the engine
That first game had way less assets.
Each game adds something new while reusing old shit, making every new installment just a bit richer.
morons itt complain about From not changing things for change's sake.
Name 1 game series that have been better from having to start from scratch with every iteration.
Good series exist because a studio can build upon each installment. No inherent value is gained from starting from scratch every time
I wish more games would just reuse assets to create more games with new areas and narrative.
From Software has released 7 games in the last decade, meanwhile Bethesda Game Studios manage 2 games in the same timespan, and they're also reusing assets
I hate the rot version puddle shit spwcially how the ai can get stuck spamming it and fillling the zone with rot that also does damage besides buils up rot
Making new models and animations for every game is just big modelling propaganda
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with reusing assets
They didn't though, people are still moaning about them doing this years after the game came out evidently.
Same move sets also sane thing with the basic soldiers too they're just hollowed soldiers
being a hack with a flagarant fanboy fanbase that wont shut the frick up about how it is the "hardest game ever made" even though it aint.
Pretty much this. People are afraid of criticizing or acknowledging criticism of the Souls series because they don't want their precious HARDCURRR GAMURRR rep revoked.
As shit as DSP is at games, a lot of his criticisms about Souls are correct. They get off the hook with way too much shit that any other company would get lambasted for.
Is Artorias still considered to be hard compared to the average Elden Ring boss?
I think Dark Souls 1 and Elden Ring bosses are difficult for different reasons. Bloodborne was my first From Software game, and the game taught me that speed is essential and that most weapons and armor can be viable for any fight.
This works just as well in Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring. Later From Software games is all about dodging and parrying enemy attacks.
Dark Souls 1 initially threw me for a loop because certain bosses will heavily punish you for bringing the wrong gear, and being able to take hits is much more viable than aiming for dodging every attack.
He exists in a game where all actions consume more stamina and the healing animation is slower. If you put him into ER as is he'd be an erdtree watchdog in terms of difficulty.
Nope the capra demon reskin has his repeating anime jump attack repeat but simpler
poise.webm
Artorias was ever considered hard? I beat him first try and never could beat Manus
This is the exact point where the series went down the shitter. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were cool dungeon crawlers, but after this you got the prepare to die bullshit and they went with the Artorias speedy dex design over the more story based bosses. There's some semblance of DeS in ER but even that is just hack and slash lite for many bosses, something Nioh does way better so what's the point anymore? What a shame.
Frick off discordtroon.
>discord
I have LINE on my phone, and I'm not going to use a fricking PC in the year of the lord 2024.
No boss in Dark Souls is hard, they're all slow as molasses and extremely choreographed.
Nah, most of the bosses in the Artorias DLC are about on part with the tougher ER bosses (but not Malenia). So enemies for a slower system. Yes you can Smough poise your way through the fight, but ER is full of cheese too.
where the frick am i supposed to go after godrick the grafted
go north to the lake
Funny you mention godrick in a thread about fromsoft reusing assets.
He's reused in the same game. That's right, fromslurp doesn't even wait for the next game to copy the major bosses. Here's a totally original donut steal boss: Godefroy the grafted. Same moveset, same model, good luck defending this shit loregays.
Liurna, clear that then the undergrounds and caelid.
Wait, there's an underground??
look for these stone things out in the world, I know ones kinda off the main path in liurnia on the right. also one in that kinda forested area in limgrave, near the eastern area where you'll be at risk of a bear trying to maim you. enter, and hold on to your butt.
>open world copy paste game with zones 1-10 with repeated activity 1-5 and enemy 1-5 bad
>From Software open world game with zones 1-10 with repeated activity 1-5 and enemy 1-5 bad good
Hilarious, ER is just as shitty to me as Horizon, Spider-Man, Tsushima, Ghostwire, Assassin's Creed, BOTW, TOTK, Tchia and Hogwarts Legacy for the exact same reason.
Yeah but what's the point of making a good game like Bloodborne if the normiefilth is going to buy horizon or Black personman 2 instead? On a financial perspective they were right to take the open world slop road.
It's because From Software fans are literally Nintentards that eat up anything they put out.
I liked fighting the Asylum Demon. Simple, fun, I enjoy the iterations it had.
demon kinda gay tho
Firesage
You didn't beat the game if
1. you fought on horseback
2. you parried, staggered, or guard countered
3. you used a summon
4. you used bleed or frost
5. you farmed for runes
6. you picked anything other than wretched and still died on the first boss before the tutorial
Honestly one of my overall complaints is the lack of enemy Varity. Hell they could've made a few of the dragons at least look different and i would've been happy.I really hope shadows has just a ton of new mooks or at least slightly different models.
I wanted to fight more of these, yes, sorry
why are npc's who can perfectly parry and one shot you still a thing
aren't people getting tired of the souls genre and all its bullshit that comes with it
You have some weapons they cant parry not even you like using your shield as two handed weapon
Dark Souls reuses the Asylum Demon 2 times
>wow, fricking lazy developers, second half of the game is garbage!
Dark Souls 3 reuses the Asylum Demon 1 time
>wow, such a kino throwback! we're going home lads...
Elden Ring reuses the Aylum Demon 20+ times
>PURE LUDO KINO SOUL
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN JUST SKIP THEM
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>npc's who can perfectly parry and one shot you
The first time this happened to me in an FRC chalice dungeon I lost my shit.
Have you played a Fromsoft game before? They use reuse assets all the time. It's how they make massive games with reasonable budgets and therefore always turn a profit.