Is Magic going to implode soon? People aren't buying this shit right? I mean Hasbro's stock is tanking
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Is Magic going to implode soon? People aren't buying this shit right? I mean Hasbro's stock is tanking
I bought a deck in 2006 once
Sweet innocent summer child...
Reddit tier post.
Hit too close to home? homosexuals gonna buy cardboard because that dick wont suck itself.
I wish, but honestly, there are plenty of new players at my LGS
frick you homosexual
>there are plenty of new players at my LGS
What format(s) do they play?
nta but whenever i wondered into my LGS and someone is having a game of MtG it's always commander
Are there any documents differentiating their income for digital sales vs paper? I can't find anything separating those out, but I'd be shocked if paper sales were lower than Arena (and we know that WotC doesn't own MTGO anymore, so they just receive a license fee from it).
it's reaching the point of mechanics saturation
>you are the monarch
>you got the initiative
>it's night
and so on
Not a problem on digital
still a problem on digital, just because you don't have to use your fleeting brainpower to keep track of parasitic mechanics doesn't mean the game isn't getting bloated and smothered by them.
You don't buy product on digital either.
>mechanics saturation
>picks a mechanic nobody uses, a mechanic nobody uses except to perform a game-ending infinite, and a mechanic that's very simply to remember
as dumb as MTG is, you MTG haters are in a league of their own
>didn't mention banding
The absolute state of newhomosexualry. I started in Urza's Saga, little one. Your frantic, inane mewlings are less coherent or intelligible than Hasbro's direction for a game that will likely outlive them.
shut the frick up
>idiot mongrel is literally too stupid to understand that the point is bloat of parasitic mechanics and not the existence of bad mechanics
go eat glue you turboc**t
>Banding
Arguing that banding is bad is a dumb meme, the keyword isn't that hard to understand and is way simpler than most of the newer ones
Banding is a keyword ability not an entire new game state to keep track of, you idiot.
>>it's night
I got you, though it's silver boarder.
Get with the times old man, it's now
>Whenever this creature deals combat to a player, impulse draw X cards, create X tapped treasure tokens, and put a +1/+1 counter on X creatures X times.
>Ward 3, Haste, Trample
Magic (and D&D) are doing great. They alongside Monopoly of all things are quite literally the only IPs that are consistently profitable for Hasbro. Like it or not, the current state of Magic is what the mass market wants. They fricking love crossovers and shit, and wokeness isn't really an issue for your average tabletop consoomer.
Not really. Annual Revenue might have roughly tripled between 2016 and 2021, but at the same time they more than sextupled the number of products being sold. In 2016 only 10 MtG products were sold leading to $350 million in revenue. In 2021, 63 MtG products were sold for $996 Million in revenue. 2022 had a 16% increase in number of products but only had a 7% increase in revenue. 2023 had an even greater increase in number of products but less than 2% increase in revenue.
Without to mention the increase in production costs that they have been heavily cutting since like 2018 or something, leading to the famous case of Kessig, a card so cheaply printed that it was illegal for tournament play.
printings have been improving in quality since 2020, anon. kaldheim and new capenna pringled like hell but everything since ONE has been fine
>Magic (and D&D) are doing great
You wouldn't think so going by how WotC and Hasbro are doing these days. Companies that are doing great don't need to lay off 2000 employees and turn to AI to keep operating.
Hasbro is imploding mostly because their third party licensing deals - especially with Disney - have been beyond disastrous.
Actually the reason why Hasbro is milking MTG so hard is precisely because it's pretty much their only business that keeps selling well while most of their other branches are on fire.
I used to try to keep up with every release, then when that became impossible I stopped paying attention to anything other than regular sets. If I don't know what's in the newest Secret Lair bullshit I won't be tempted and I won't feel bad for "missing out."
Yes.
Magic is at a turning point in the history of the entire concept of the "collectible" card game.
There are many millions of middle aged Magic players who care absolutely nothing for the collecting aspect, and they are long jaded to the process of brewing new decks.
They just want to sit down at the table and play a good game of magic.
And that doesn't mean a "social experience".
They mean a game with a clearly defined winner and loser and each player is trying their hardest to win.
How this will all play out I don't know, but there is about to be a paradigm shift.
Middle-aged man here.
I'm over EDH.
I'm over cubes.
I'm ready for pre-con tournaments.
And I don't mean pre-cons you buy.
I mean you pick a deck from an official list, build it, and run it against a field of others who did the same.
Hopefully, because as someone new to MTG I prefer 1v1. Casual formats have their place but they shouldn't be the main attraction. I was at the pre-release and one of my opponents said he's been recruiting people to do more 1v1 stuff and so far they've got 12 people who do it regularly so I'm going to start going to that. Still small compared to the 60 people playing Commander there twice a week there but it's a start.
Magic is EDH now.
Not for me.
EDH is the Smash Ultimate of magic.
I don't know what that means.
Party-masher hated by people in the FGC who play real fighting games.
Clusterfrick of characters from mis-matched universes.
Tournaments exist but they are also considered a joke by the rest of previously mentioned FGC.
>Tournaments exist but they are also considered a joke by the rest of previously mentioned FGC.
They also follow the same archetype of overweight players who don't shower
>Clusterfrick of characters from mis-matched universes.
from what I was seeing occasionally (as I stopped buying around Amonkhet), MTG is going this way hard
>D&D
>LotR
>Wh40k
>Cyberpunk
maybe people will open eyes when they adapt MLP
>when they adapt MLP
Hasn't that been done like twice already?
it was secret lairs, alt styles for existing cards
which is fine
>it was secret lairs, alt styles for existing cards
No, the MLP stuff are all bespoke designs, just silver border.
Why not go all out and do a true MLP crossover then? Might as well get money from everyone. Are they too chicken to do it?
Hasbro never really knew how to tap into the brony market, like D&D only got like a single t-shirt and dice set that were comic con exclusive(though they did make an original RPG for the series). My guess is that wizards or other execs wouldn't think it would sell well enough, especially now after g4 has long ended. And the perfect peak time to make such a set was well before these crossover sets were even an idea. In the end seven cards in total, none of them legal for charity was probably the best option.
Hasbro really are moronic. Its a real shame they own many IP's.
I'm sorry but we still have Harry Potter and Final Fantasy to go, at the least.
>maybe people will open eyes when they adapt MLP
Already done but silver bordered. They did two series making like 7 cards, considering how little Hasbro managed to capitalize on the new MLP audience I don't see them doing anymore than that.
it's the among us of magic
Too bad, so sad, dont care.
the last time I bought a deck was.. 1999 I think.
Gave my whole box of cards away in 06 or 07
Magic: The Gathering™, the world's premiere interracial sex-themed card game
show me the sex card
Based
Mine's better. Face it, you racist chuds are done.
I find it very funny how in current card design, as soon as something costs over 5 cmc all bets are off, they can write anything on a card because balance stops at 4 and if you paid more than that you're entitled to physically assault your opponent on ETB.
what the hell is a grey phyrexian mana?
It's supposed to be Green. He just posted a really desaturated pic for some reason.
He probably did that because the art looks like shit now.
>cmc
It's time for bed, Grandpa.
Everything past 2008 should have a gray icon.
Outlaws of Thunder Junction saved magic.
how did it do that?
Why would anyone still plays this shit after Lorwyn and Shadowmoor is beyond me. I was a stupid teenager and even I saw that after planewalkers and the mythic rarity the writing was on the wall and it was time to leave.
>sure, MTG has been selling increasingly more and multiplying their stock ever since, and would become more popular than ever around 2020, but the writing was on the wall 17 years ago.
Popularity and quality are far from synonymous
Innistrad and Fallout are the only interesting thig I got. And I mostly got the cards for the art not to play.
they've gotta be close to reaching their peak number of players i think
but even if that number shrinks, they can still milk the hell out of those still playing
biggest shock would be seeing the number of products scaled back
They hit peak players/speculators in '20 due to Covid and now are just milking a gradually shrinking customer base harder and harder to maintain that level of revenue. At some point the bubble is going to pop.
Is there a "Classic Magic" like there is for World of Warcraft were you can only play cards/proxies up to a certain expansion? I only played Magic for about a year in 2004 because I wasted too much of my allowance on it and I was thinking about getting back into it again in the last few weeks but don't want to get overwhelmed by 30+years of Cards and Mechanics
No there's nothing like that. Probably can't even have that as a community format because of the reserve list (unless everyone is collectively OK with digital or printed)
YGO has a few classic formats, but none of them are official. Tcg makers aren't in the business of endorsing people playing with old cards, and the type of new fan culture where youre expected to spend all day in reddit/generals/discords obsessed over a fandom at the exclusion of having sny other hobby, doesn't like there not being a flood of new product to squirt about.
>No there's nothing like that.
There's literally a community format called Premodern.
MTG's financial success doesn't validate or invalidate anything to me
To me, the game is a disaster because its setting is funkopop: the tcg. To my imagination, the game is dead. There's also the EDH pandering, the terrible mechanic creep, power creep, expensive, overproduction of product, shit cardstock and ary quality, among other things
Jfc I think there are more releases between when I quit after the DOM prerelease to now than during my entire time playing (revised through dominaria united). If not, it's fricking close. I haven't actually counted.