Is Mechwarrior 5 worth playing, Ganker?
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I liked it but it pales in comparison to 4 or 3
Is it fine to play vanilla or should I get some mods in particular? I remember seeing them mentioned, but not which ones.
Default mech customization system is shit, get Yet Another Mechlab
YAML is really complex and as a new player it's really overwhelming.
Even the base game takes a good 20hrs of trial and error to get a feel on how everything works.
This, also just look into mods in general, there's a new mod called "The Known Universe" which changes the map so it accurately includes all the factions, not just the successor states. Its a small thing, but it appeals to me greatly as a fan of the MoC.
Ignore most of the mods. They're all bloated with useless shit that the AI can't utilize (and some are fricky in the player's hands).
Any mods that make the AI better?
This. The biggest issue is that the AI is atrocious, and so is the mission design. It's like loading into a college student's free fan game. Some concepts are neat, but the mission design is really, really poor, and the AI is downright non-functional for both allies and enemies. It's like playing with and against braindamaged toddlers.
Yes, but only because its impossible to frick up a game where you can slaughter communists in an assault mech while listening to metal.
Its lot of fun with mods. Vanilla gets boring really fast.
Please tell me which mods I should get, other than
and
If you get it on sale and look into mods to suit it to how you want to play. YAML is an easy reccomendation.
Those are really all you need to start. Maybe TTAIRulez but I'm not sure if it's updated, and PGI has un-fricked the pilot AI a little.
Pilot Overhaul is also good.
wienerpit glass, real fire and brimstone, all the yaml shit
get the ones that are checked. 90% functionality mods that won't negatively effect performance or change visuals.
stay the frick away from merctech, it's a shitshow
>stay the frick away from merctech, it's a shitshow
Elaborate, I'm interested in it and you are the first person that says it's not good
Are you at all familiar with the roguetech mod for Battletech? It's the same thing, but for MW5. It's very poorly put together with bad quality 3rd party models, textures, icons, and assets, with no respect for lore or time-gated availability. It's barley functional. It's also made by some of the same people are are the absolute biggest collection of massive fricking c**ts and trannies you could imagine.
Its okay with a friend and mods
I like how the urban and the raven feels in that game
>urban
my trashcan brother
I'd personally wait for Clans, mw5 is kinda underwhelming, but if you're adamant:
>Get Kestral Lancers and Call to Arms, adds melee and melee weapons
>Mods: YAML, Coyote missions, Von Biomes and War FX
What's clans? Is that Mech Warrior 6? Did they post a definitive release date?
New game.
I heard this game in vanilla kind of sucks, but mods make it considerably better. Anyone confirm?, If so, what mods should I get? Also, does anyone here use a HOTAS setup to play? I want to get into the franchise. I've downloaded Mech Warrior Online, and I was considering buying MW5, and Battletech. Also if anyone has any noob guides for MWO, it'd be appreciated. I hear the grind isn't as bad now as it used to be.
I use a HOTAS setup, works out of the box, but I went slightly insane setting it up because I didn't realize that YAML doesn't give mechs engines in instant action, so I thought my throttle wasn't working.
>HOTAS
Give it up bro, it's no longer 1997.
>mods
I just started playing the game myself and came up with this list for the stock campaign. I haven't touched YAML/Coyote/VonBiomes/AI stuff yet, I'm saving that for when I do career playthroughs and DLC campaigns (which I figure are the meat and potatoes of the game anyway)
Posting it in case it helps anyone out.
>XenoPax Optimize 4.0
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/444
>Enable Infantry (PGI official mod)
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/274
>Updated Engine Double Heat Sink Fix
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/830
>Better Lance Status
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/997
>Proper Rear Paper Doll
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/874
>Armor Green
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/462
>Alternate PGI HUD with targeting line
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/801
>Enhanced Cooldown Pips 2
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/972
>No Background UI
https://www.nexusmods.com/mechwarrior5mercenaries/mods/1072
>Faction Standing Tweaks
nexus /mods/934
>Immersive Loot Crate Smoke
nexus /mods/970
>Marketplace QOL
nexus /mods/1068
>Mech Attribute Viewer
nexus /mods/298
>Star Map Mouse Over
nexus /mods/150
>Updated Skip Jumpship Animation
nexus /mods/554
>wienerpit Glass
nexus /mods/256
>Thermals and Headlights
nexus /mods/509
>Unlock Hidden Color Schemes
nexus /mods/51
>Mechs of Beauty
nexus /mods/190
>Mod Options
nexus /mods/537
>Infantry No Color
nexus /mods/820
>Infantry No Expense
nexus /mods/838
Definitely open to more recommendations. I can say these have worked together on current patch + all DLC so far. One tiny annoyance: infantry will spawn during arena matches unless you disable their spawns from the menu before the mission starts.
>Immersive Loot Crate Smoke
you will not see them when you use Thermals and Headlights thermals
That's fine, I don't play the whole game in thermals
thats because you dont use fire and brimstone
Honestly that feels like a bit of a meme
>Mod the game to have all these effects
>But play most of the game hiding them because it's kind of unplayable otherwise
the version without the rocket smoke is fine, the battlefield still turns into a smoldering, fiery cauldron, but you can still see more than 10 feet in front of you even on moons without atmosphere
Flat design procedurally generated Unreal Trash
Also,
>PGI
I'm hesitant on even touching the game because of this
did any of you play Mechwarrior Online?
yeah the occasional vc banter can be fun but i prefer the curbstomping bots in my favorite mech
I had over a thousand hours in MWO but never put more than 5 hours into MW5, maybe with updates and mods it got better but I haven't bothered trying again
I did for quite a while. I quit sometime before the release of MW5, I forget why exactly. I think I was just bored.
Not a big fan.
mwo is dying f2p trash
MW5 is fun for a little bit, but it gets very stale very quickly since every mission is procedurally-generated slop and the hand-crafted story missions barely feel any different than the filler missions, and you get to play one of those for every ten filler missions on average.
>did any of you play Mechwarrior Online
A little at the initial launch, but I actually picked it up again around December and it's quite fun. People are usually chill, and the events give out a good amount of premium currency to buy skins or mechs with. Most of the real-money mechs aren't strictly better than the in-game-money variants, I've never really found myself going 'oh man if I'd had the paid version of this thing I would've killed that guy' because the paid version is usually geared to do a completely different build that a different free 'mech probably already does.
>every mission is procedurally-generated slop
That's an outright lie. Game has tremendous amount of handcrafted storyline missions with DLCs, literally t least 4 separate campaigns within campaigns, you lying fricking subhuman.
>feel
No one cares about your worthless dogshit opinion.
>psychotic channer swoops in to defend corporation
the game is shit
>shit-eating subhuman turd-worlder who never played the game opens his shit-encrusted ass-mouth to vomit verbal diarrhea no one cares about
Snap your fricking neck, shitskin tranimal.
>read this as "psychotic clanner"
I have been playing these games too much
The vanilla game has like 4 mission types and like 6 biomes, and every mission crams every inch of square space full of cannon fodder tanks, helicopters, and turrets. Every AI enemy fights like they want to personally end your lance for kicking their dog or some shit, and every character repeats the same badly-voiced lines for each mission. Mechwarrior 4 had way more variety in OpFor deployments, better voice acting and unique dialog for each mission, and enemies actually fought like real militaries would, with your lance being able to force retreats if you destroyed enough mechs.
Wow you are REALLY mad, did PGI threaten to kill your family or something if you didn't manage to convince me the game is good? Calm down son.
>The vanilla game
Hasn't been vanilla for years, shit-eating turdskin. If you're not playing with DLCs, you're not playing the game and any shit falling from your mouth can be instantly ignored. Snap your fricking neck, dumb animal.
>game LE BAD because AI aggressive
Lmaoing at this noskill subhuman.
>MW4
Arcade kiddieshooter for brain-addled shitters.
Post your final mission scoreboard, shitstain. Surely you've managed to beat the game, defeating 8 lances of Comstar mechs without getting filtered?
The game economy revolves around having 2+ lances worth of spare mechs to rotate and being careful to not lose a mech outright even if it is catastrophically damaged. With mods this dynamic changes because the dramatically higher performance from lostech/clan tech comes with a dramatically higher price tag and the chance of getting ripped apart by timber wolves
>The game economy revolves around having 2+ lances
KEK
AHAHHA
PFFFFFFFFFFFFT
AHAHAHAHA
2 lances won't get you through the hardest DLC campaigns where you don't have time for repairs, cheating shitter.
he's right though. clan duel missions and missions with clan ambush events are more dangerous than any of the DLC campaign missions
>he's right though
No, he's not, you fricking moron. 2 lances will get chewed up in campaigns that involve multiple missions played one after another with no time for repairs.
I never had that issue. might be skill related
>I never had that issue.
Of course you didn't, you didn't even play the game, dumb shitter.
imagine seething this much over a 5/10 game
also your mechbay is fricking boring. annihilators are pleb bait. they get hit disproportionally often in the face and arms. that's probably why you're struggling
anon your reading comprehension....
>2+ lances of spare mechs
as in your have your main lance
and then at minimum 2 more lances in reserve
with the possibility of more
MW5 has issues. AI is crap, mechlab is gimped, missions get real samey after a little while. It's pretty much as good as you're going to get for PvE stompy mech action, though, despite it's flaws.
MWO is a completely different fricking beast. It's honestly one of the most rewarding multiplayer experiences on Earth right now despite how fricking awful it can be due to the age and overall stupidity of it's playerbase.
>t. over 500 hours in MW5 and easily over 1000 hours in MWO
Rate the Urbie experience in both
Have you ever tried Living Legends? It's so much better than MWO. Combined arms is what Battletech is all about
Aren't you forced to use shitty tanks for 90% of the game because people that live thst game farm you to hell and back
Not at all
this answer is neither convincing nor very satisfactory
I answered your question what do you want from me
You can get on a mech immediately upon spawning if you want. Another player can even give you money to buy a higher tonnage vehicle immediately if you only barely joined an ongoing round
see! these are the information i want to get!
Nope, you start off with cheap tanks, light mechs and BA if you do better (just get hits on enemy, not even kills) you can upgrade to heavier mechs/tanks and aerospace.
I go Raven into Rifleman F usually.
>Raven
i will now hear you out
these fricks are only good in lore, not one game has a good use for that failure
They've got Archangels from Jihad era my dude
https://wiki.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?title=Archangel
>Living Legends
Not that anon, but weren't they making another LL game, a sort of sequel?
With mods, yes.
Hell yeah it's really fun! MW5 Co-op is my favorite mechwarrior I've played it's really fun with friends
mod it and is fantastic, vanilla is bland as shit.
Are there any mods that make the weapon ranges not immersion-breakingly short?
Yes, or at least their were. But if you care about realistic weapon ranges then Battletech is legitimately not for you.
Idk if it was the map design of previous games or hardware issues that prevented them from making big maps but it never bothered me until I tried playing mw5 and there were so many opportunities where my 50+ ton death machine's weapons just fizzled into the air at a distance shorter than what you can make shots at with an average hunting rifle. Mw2 was one of my first PC games growing up so I've been playing the franchise off and on for 20+ years but this is the first time it made it unplayable for me.
Shoulda gone with ballistics. The arch on the AC20 is thrown pancake tier but they didn't have damage decay for the longest time so actually hitting things with them was pretty rewarding.
what was the name of the mod where you can start with a glorified forklift?
Are any of the DLCs needed?
hotis if you ask me, the rest is okay-ish, except the fricking axeman one, i dont like mechs with melee implements
No it's not a real mech game
Combat Is good, vanilla campaign is shit. Just go play the Merc start and go around doing missions. Mapgen is still fricking shit (CLIFFS WTF).
just use vonbiomes, the game is not very good without mods anyways
as someone who has played it for 170 hours:
no
>king crab
>not running ac bf
look how he butchered my boy
after lengthy scientific analysis, I've determined that quad clan PPC Kaiju is the best possible mech in the game. I wouldn't use it otherwise, because the wienerpit view is awful and its annoyingly low to the ground
one of the popular mission mods adds beyond-maximum-difficulty legendary missions which require you to kill dozens of mechs all at once. 4 PPC crab can one-shot anything at any range, meaning it takes the least amount of chip damage over the course of a mission. And critically, it never runs out of ammo.
fair enough, but it still doesnt feel right
Nice screenshot, got more? Preferably a raven?
Game is a blast if you have friends
Best in the series and the only pve mech game worth playing on the market, because it's the only pve mech game on the market. Everything else has nothing to do with mech games.
Yeah it's pretty fun
It was my first Mechwarrior game so I cannot compare it to the older ones like the other anons but I enjoyed it for what it is
Quick question: what's a good mod for BattleTech by HBS?
Was this the sqaud strategy game or the fps? I get them mixed up all the time.
battletech is the strategy game, mw5 is the shooter
What made Mechwarrior 3 feel so good?
high production value + no bullshit
MW5 starts off with some tiresome family revenge plot and then plops you down to enjoy randomly-generated no-context mission slop for 50 hours. The voice acting is bad, the sound effects are bad, the writing is thankfully ignorable, and there's barely any actual content
MW3 starts off with a no-nonsense military briefing for what is a very seriously-presented military campaign, and takes you through hand-crafted missions with unique objectives and brutal difficulty spikes that force you to cherish every single scrap of salvage
Mechwarrior 3 was amazing for its time and it took itself seriously where you were spec ops mechwarriors on a do-or-die mission in clan space.
No. I wanted it to be good but it just isn't.
If you can't post your final mission scoreboard, your opinion on the game is worth less than dogshit lol
Where are your urbies?
When you think about it Annihilators are just 3 urbies stacked on top of each other.
With or without the trenchcoat?
Without. They're just welded together which accounts for the extra 10 tons.
Now that screams efficiency and ingenuity
>The random hireable npcs have better voice acting than the main characters
i love the mod that adds the voice acting of previous games
I remember the MechCommander voices being pretty seamless.
>want to take my heaviest mechs
>can't because of mission limitations
>bring what I can
>enemy has 2x as many heavy mechs as I do plus 10 smaller mechs
Am I supposed to just not care when one of my mechs blows up or a pilot dies?
I really fricking wish crash logs would name an offending mod because I have 110 of the fricking things and the Solaris update broke ONE of them, but i don't know which. Fricking sucks.
So just split up the mod list in half until you find the offending mod
Do you guys use torso counter rotation?
I just discovered it was a thing in the options and it's damn nice.
i bind rotationlock to a mousekey for quick and easy reorientation
Yes, get two joysticks and you'll have fun.
what the frick do you even use the dual joysticks for? I get having one, but what does the second one offer? Are there games where you can independently move the arms?
For the (good) Mechwarrior and similar mech sims like Heavy Gear, you can move the reticule and your torso independently. Additionally, one hand acts as a throttle for some games. I would suggest, personally, a one-handed throttle and a joystick. I used to play with rudder pedals to adjust walk/run/glide/jumps but I grew out of that when I got higher quality joysticks/throttles.
I figured throttle and joystick was the combo to go for controlling your mech. It could be interesting using throttle and joystick, with pedals to rotate the torso independently of aiming. Probably more of a hassle than anything else.
Depends on how desperate you are for stompy mechs
It's an awful game that becomes average with dozens of mods installed
Just (re)play Mechwarrior 3 and 4
enough foreplay give the facts can i have fun with a urban and raven in LL and if yes how do i get that game and for how much
Yes
Yes
It's free!
https://mechlivinglegends.net/#downloads
You will mostly find a populated server in the weekends
Also this section of the review talks about MWLL, timestamped
?si=Wsx7SsLZ5ok6IYln&t=914
@15:13 onward
dont make me regret clicking on random 4chin links
Do not do it, it creates mustard gas and bricks your pc
frick you, i did what the wiki and the YT tutorial told me and i still get this error message
>he installed shit from Ganker
Enjoy your crypto miner.
D-did you just try to run the dedicated server...?
I really don't want to make fun of you because you're probably just young and/or afraid of technology from your previous posts, but jesus christ man.
pretend i am your grandfather and guide me through the steps
Jesus
People on Ganker would tell me before that game sucks and it MUST use mods to be playable but I played it few months ago, my very first MW game and I loved it. Didnt even use any mods, still liked it. I must admit however that randomly generated stuff can get annoying sometimes but I only got a bit bored after 70 hours so thats okay in my book. Also, DLC galore is not good thing, missions from Rasa and Dragon Gambit were really fun but melee DLC with that axe mech was mediocre.
Living Legends gameplay:
?si=zHRWUZSgMNWfmnfn
>not posting the smooth talking king of wet panties of black pants leagion
is a LL server up right now?
Yes
There's one with a couple players right now
https://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html
If you have gamepass it's worth a try, I don't know if I would buy it straight up.
Can anyone do me a favor? Could you post the name or look of the paintjobs you get as rewards for completing missions in vanilla and DLC of MW5?
Just want to make sure that the mods I'm using for adding custom paint jobs don't clash with the existing ones and make them unable to appear or something like that.
To add to this, I'm aware there's a couple for the Bounty Hunter and then the Divergent paint from Kestrel Lancers DLC?
i somehow did it, i watched some mech frickin them selfes over for 5 minutes but hot do i get to control my own mech
I believe in you anon you can figure it out
You are either really really old or way too young.
Is Mech Warrior Online worth playing? Can a new person get into it?
Play LL and join the other newcomer
i did it, the old man managed to join a server! AND I COULD EVEN PLAY A RAVEN!
if you tell me you are 69 i will forgive you for asking those questions earlier
i am 46, but very slow but i love mechs
c**** that was painful, adjusted your keybinds please
shush, give me three month and i will scrub the floor with you
What is your opinion on Stackpoleing?
Do you like to see it in your MechWarrior/Battletech games, or is it annoying for you
It is fine in Mechwarrior games because it is interactable. It is horseshit in things like Battletech mods (i.e. Roguetech) because there is no way to interact with it, making nothing more than
>teehee the suicidal pilots who keep running at you have a 3% chance to go nuclear on you
Stackpoling is fine in the action-based games and fine in human vs human tabletop. It is fricking stupid when modded into Paradox games that obfuscate necessary mechanics and field AI that is less intelligent than what was being run in The Crescent Hawk's Revenge over 30 years ago.
Are there any mods you use that are Steam Workshop-only?
No clue
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