bro you don't understand it's super good when you are in a forest gaming quality content like Halo Infinity on your Xbox One and the gamer pad charge runs out! "OH No, I'm A NOOB!" is what any other inferior controller owner would say, but you a galaxy brain GAMER would mag dump the old batteries and reload in new Duracell ultra gaming batteries designed to give you quickscopes for up to 30 hours, even with RGB, leaving rival consoles in dust.
>You can easily replace the batteries yourself >Don't have to open it or fiddle with internals when the battery inevitably dies >UHHMMM HELLO? IT'S 2024 WHY ISN'T THE BATTERY GLUED TOGETHER LIKE APPLE DOES? I HAVE HAVING OPTIONS AND FREEDOM OF CHOICE JUST GIVE ME A SOLDERED BATTERY
Eat fricking shit and die. That's the best feature of the xbone controller.
>undoing a few screws and unplugging a replugging a plug is outside the skill of gamers
No wonder since I've never had to replace any of the batteries on any of my controllers.
or I can just pick up some rechargeable AAs that I can use elsewhere in my house and have immediately ready to pop into the controller and keep going wirelessly
of which will outlast the chinesium that microshit makes their xbox controllers out of
Why can't you do that with replaceables? I and everyone I know managed to figure it out.
>have to get up find your special only for that one type of battery battery chrager that you only use for your controller, take new rechargeables that are like 5 bucks a pop, remove old ones, put in new ones, restart the controller and plug the charger into the wall
vs >plug in an usb now or after you're done playing
Rechargeable shit seems like a complete hassle just to "own some noobs on a basket weaving forum" especially knowing xbox build quality of discconnecting the controller every time your finger touches the battery pack.
Not everyone has a disorderly mudhut where they can't find electronics, ESL-kun.
I could just as easily pop the batteries out at the end of the day and put some freshly charged ones in, all without worrying about the little pillow inside of a rechargeable controller catching my house on fire if I happen to drop it from a foot or two above my carpet.
Or, you could do the best of both worlds and make your controller rechargeable AND user serviceable, just like my flashlight and its 18650 battery, and my laser pointer and its 18650 battery. Then you can do all the battery recharging autism you can muster but also just plug a cable in like a normal person.
No, it's just because it's bad in the long term to have a battery system you can't access.
The basic thing to understand about the rechargeable in most controllers is that they have absolute shit battery life. And it goes down over time, my DS4 can't even hold a charge anymore at this point
The big benefit of how Xbox does it is that you don't have to unscrew your chassis to get to the battery system if something dies. I'd recommend just grab a rechargeable for the controller itself, it's actually pretty good
That used to be a problem but modern batteries aren't that flimsy and are better optimised to the device they are produced for than third party batteries. Plus, why would you want to keep the same controller for long enough for the batteries to degrade? If you take into account the price of the rechargables you buy, you're only saving about half the price of the controller over its lifetime and losing time looking for good batteries and chargers. And there is an advantage to buying new controllers more often, that being that you have a spare if one of them breaks and you may be able to lend it to a friend if one of theirs breaks. It helps to have excess.
That being said, you should buy controllers with changeable batteries because they are obviously better. Even though some of the older models have issues with aa batteries causing corrosion.
eat shit going to the shop or having to replace batteries is far more fricking annoying than just plugging in a cable when the message pops on screen or after you've done playing.
Guy mentioned 18650 lithium battery form factor. It's rechargeable. Like another guy mentioned all flashlights use these batteries now and are rechargeable via USB. When battery wears out you just put new inside, like changing AA cells.
Has anyone actually kept a controller long enough for the battery to die? Don't see how it's a problem for most people I usually replace mine every three years due to console upgrades or damage to the controller. So I don't see the point of not including rechargables.
The fact that I can just swap batteries between the controller and the battery charger in less than a minute, rather than have to plug the thing in every time it runs low, is the best feature of SeX controllers. I want a wireless controller, which means I don't want it to spend half the day plugged to a wire to be usable.
We can, it's just not worth considering since it's still more annoying than plugging in an usb, same as every single other electronic device you have.
Having an extra set of rechargeable AA's, it's charger and having to plug it in and out of the wall every time you are forced to stop playing to completely unpower, replacce batteries and repower the controller is a massive hassle compared to plugging in the usb cable you already have laying around your playng area for your phone or something else.
Or just having it charge while you are not playing.
If rechargeable AA's were the shit we wouldn't have integrated batteries at all.
Having removable batteries makes more sense to me. Just chuck in a couple of fresh ones while you charge the flat ones. Battery dying in your Playstation controller and barely lasts an hour? Great, now you have to unscrew the thing and fit a new one (oh by the way, you need tiny Torx bits, better go buy those lol)
>pretends to be ultra tech savvy scrub pawner cause you think rechargeable aa's are less convenient than plugging in an usb >doesn't even have electronics screw driver kit
Besides I've never had to replace a lion battery except for my datalogger for my race car.
Can you say the same, aa fanboy?
Plugging a USB makes my wireless controller no longer wireless, which can be an issue during long gaming sessions. Whereas it takes less than a minute to change switch the batteries in the controller with the ones in the charger and I retain wirelessness. Not to mention that it's another thing I have to remember to plug to charge when I'm done playing.
Cause we don't have a single device that uses this fricking archaic battery tech and refuse to get some shit ass controller with shit ass battery system and non-functional dpad just for the bragging rights of having an AA rechargeables and it's charger.
from the inception of commonly available and cheap rechargeable battery tech to today where remotes are now also usb chargeable, the tv remotes use so little battery that it is more expensive to own the charger than to replace the remotes battery 3 times during the tv's lifespan.
Besides
controllers use AA and tv uses AAA, so now you have two fricking rechargeable battery types and chargers making your already over priced shit ass xbone cocntroller with non functional dpad and lack of trackpad for pc use even more expensive and inconveninent.
vs just plugging shit in via usb like every other device.
Really worth getting one for one of the worst gaming controllers I do not own cause its dogshit and tv remote that requires a new battery every few years.
half the devices in my house use normal batteries
not phone batteries
the frick is wrong with you and what magic non existent scenario do you have on your hands?
Never had an issue with battery life on DS4 and I still don't.
Had plenty of issues with xbox controllers disconnecting after you bump against it's shitty battery pack
>Never had an issue with battery life on DS4 and I still don't.
it's been thoroughly tested to last 14 hours max on the later revisions, closer to 8 hours on the earlier revisions.
That's terrible compared to every other modern bluetooth controller including the Dualshock 3.
I get like 6-10 sessions out of one charge and if it's low I just plug a cable into it or replace it with my charged controller.
even if you're a degenerate neet that plays for 8 hours in a row it is still less of an hassle to take one controller that was charging from the console and plug in the empty one and leave it to charge.
Sorry but that's elss of an hassle than having to dump AA batteries, finding the only charger that only exists for your controller and replacing the batteries
Short battery life for something like a controller, is not the cotcha or inconvenience you think it is.
half the devices in my house use normal batteries
not phone batteries
the frick is wrong with you and what magic non existent scenario do you have on your hands?
Only tv remotes for me.
There's nothing else since we don't have old shit or pointless shit like clocks or radios
But I live in europe where doing taxes takes literally 5 minutes, only time you get paper in mail is when government sends you a new id card and we have city wide wifi for free. We are a bit more advanced technologically.
>be xbox chad >load controller with Eneloop batteries >turn off controller light >controller lasts 30+ hours >when battery gets low, throw batteries in charger, put another pair in >do this once a week/fortnight depending on playtime
>be snoygay >controller lasts 4 hours >have to be tethered to the console with the cuck cable while it charges >do this song and dance every single play session
Internal batteries are fricking shit.
For me, the best controller ever made is the Dual Shock 3, I have 3 and 2 of them still work like a charm, the 3rd and most used one is already having battery problems. My only option is either buying a cheap second hand DS3 hoping the battery is ok, or buying a piece of shit battery from AliExpress that'd die after 2 recharges.
Microsoft is the last sane maker for using regular batteries and you are full blown moron for thinking otherwise.
Rechargeable controllers sucks ass, needing to have a cable plugged into the controller itself to charge it for hours is fricking moronic. I'd rather replace the batteries in the controller in 1 minute and continue using it, then the spent batteries can be charged in a battery charger where they can take however fricking long to charge since it doesn't bother me.
It cuts costs.
elite controllers have the best rechargeables on the market
Pretty neat on the V2 but I'm sure they copyrighted it.
bro you don't understand it's super good when you are in a forest gaming quality content like Halo Infinity on your Xbox One and the gamer pad charge runs out! "OH No, I'm A NOOB!" is what any other inferior controller owner would say, but you a galaxy brain GAMER would mag dump the old batteries and reload in new Duracell ultra gaming batteries designed to give you quickscopes for up to 30 hours, even with RGB, leaving rival consoles in dust.
Why do they cost so fricking much
Upgrading my PC and going from 360 to Series X and holy shit
Was*
>You can easily replace the batteries yourself
>Don't have to open it or fiddle with internals when the battery inevitably dies
>UHHMMM HELLO? IT'S 2024 WHY ISN'T THE BATTERY GLUED TOGETHER LIKE APPLE DOES? I HAVE HAVING OPTIONS AND FREEDOM OF CHOICE JUST GIVE ME A SOLDERED BATTERY
Eat fricking shit and die. That's the best feature of the xbone controller.
>undoing a few screws and unplugging a replugging a plug is outside the skill of gamers
No wonder since I've never had to replace any of the batteries on any of my controllers.
or I can just pick up some rechargeable AAs that I can use elsewhere in my house and have immediately ready to pop into the controller and keep going wirelessly
of which will outlast the chinesium that microshit makes their xbox controllers out of
>have to get up find your special only for that one type of battery battery chrager that you only use for your controller, take new rechargeables that are like 5 bucks a pop, remove old ones, put in new ones, restart the controller and plug the charger into the wall
vs
>plug in an usb now or after you're done playing
Rechargeable shit seems like a complete hassle just to "own some noobs on a basket weaving forum" especially knowing xbox build quality of discconnecting the controller every time your finger touches the battery pack.
Not everyone has a disorderly mudhut where they can't find electronics, ESL-kun.
I could just as easily pop the batteries out at the end of the day and put some freshly charged ones in, all without worrying about the little pillow inside of a rechargeable controller catching my house on fire if I happen to drop it from a foot or two above my carpet.
Or, you could do the best of both worlds and make your controller rechargeable AND user serviceable, just like my flashlight and its 18650 battery, and my laser pointer and its 18650 battery. Then you can do all the battery recharging autism you can muster but also just plug a cable in like a normal person.
>The thought of having to unscrew one screw and unplugging a battery is enough to send xbots into a frothing rage
No, it's just because it's bad in the long term to have a battery system you can't access.
The basic thing to understand about the rechargeable in most controllers is that they have absolute shit battery life. And it goes down over time, my DS4 can't even hold a charge anymore at this point
The big benefit of how Xbox does it is that you don't have to unscrew your chassis to get to the battery system if something dies. I'd recommend just grab a rechargeable for the controller itself, it's actually pretty good
A controller with built in batteries will go to shit down the line I much prefer removable batteries one less thing to degrade over time
That used to be a problem but modern batteries aren't that flimsy and are better optimised to the device they are produced for than third party batteries. Plus, why would you want to keep the same controller for long enough for the batteries to degrade? If you take into account the price of the rechargables you buy, you're only saving about half the price of the controller over its lifetime and losing time looking for good batteries and chargers. And there is an advantage to buying new controllers more often, that being that you have a spare if one of them breaks and you may be able to lend it to a friend if one of theirs breaks. It helps to have excess.
That being said, you should buy controllers with changeable batteries because they are obviously better. Even though some of the older models have issues with aa batteries causing corrosion.
Corrosion is a big reason I upgraded to the new elite controller earlier this year. Thing is max comfy and blows what I used to have out of the water.
All battery powered consumer electronics should run on user replaceable AA or 18650s
eat shit going to the shop or having to replace batteries is far more fricking annoying than just plugging in a cable when the message pops on screen or after you've done playing.
Why can't you do that with replaceables? I and everyone I know managed to figure it out.
Guy mentioned 18650 lithium battery form factor. It's rechargeable. Like another guy mentioned all flashlights use these batteries now and are rechargeable via USB. When battery wears out you just put new inside, like changing AA cells.
No, frick you. I was fricking thrilled to get my GBA SP because it meant I no longer had to deal with AAs outside of my mouse.
Has anyone actually kept a controller long enough for the battery to die? Don't see how it's a problem for most people I usually replace mine every three years due to console upgrades or damage to the controller. So I don't see the point of not including rechargables.
Never, not even the "worst controller ever made the DS4 with it's 2 second battery life meaning it you will have to recharge it 20 times a day"
still using my 2007 xbox controller just swapping battwries here and there
The fact that I can just swap batteries between the controller and the battery charger in less than a minute, rather than have to plug the thing in every time it runs low, is the best feature of SeX controllers. I want a wireless controller, which means I don't want it to spend half the day plugged to a wire to be usable.
>the average Ganker Black person can not comprehend rechargeable aa’s
We can, it's just not worth considering since it's still more annoying than plugging in an usb, same as every single other electronic device you have.
Having an extra set of rechargeable AA's, it's charger and having to plug it in and out of the wall every time you are forced to stop playing to completely unpower, replacce batteries and repower the controller is a massive hassle compared to plugging in the usb cable you already have laying around your playng area for your phone or something else.
Or just having it charge while you are not playing.
If rechargeable AA's were the shit we wouldn't have integrated batteries at all.
Reminds me of the blog post from Jahans explaining how making a cup of tea is actually difficult because it's over 80 individual steps.
>not getting rechargable battery packs
just run a powered usb hub under your couch, it's not difficult.
What a worthless suggestion
>using wireless peripherals
You deserve it all
Having removable batteries makes more sense to me. Just chuck in a couple of fresh ones while you charge the flat ones. Battery dying in your Playstation controller and barely lasts an hour? Great, now you have to unscrew the thing and fit a new one (oh by the way, you need tiny Torx bits, better go buy those lol)
>pretends to be ultra tech savvy scrub pawner cause you think rechargeable aa's are less convenient than plugging in an usb
>doesn't even have electronics screw driver kit
Besides I've never had to replace a lion battery except for my datalogger for my race car.
Can you say the same, aa fanboy?
Plugging a USB makes my wireless controller no longer wireless, which can be an issue during long gaming sessions. Whereas it takes less than a minute to change switch the batteries in the controller with the ones in the charger and I retain wirelessness. Not to mention that it's another thing I have to remember to plug to charge when I'm done playing.
how do you not have rechargeable AAs at this point? seriously what the frick is wrong with you people buying single-use batteries in fricking 2024
Cause we don't have a single device that uses this fricking archaic battery tech and refuse to get some shit ass controller with shit ass battery system and non-functional dpad just for the bragging rights of having an AA rechargeables and it's charger.
>He doesn't own a TV
from the inception of commonly available and cheap rechargeable battery tech to today where remotes are now also usb chargeable, the tv remotes use so little battery that it is more expensive to own the charger than to replace the remotes battery 3 times during the tv's lifespan.
Besides
controllers use AA and tv uses AAA, so now you have two fricking rechargeable battery types and chargers making your already over priced shit ass xbone cocntroller with non functional dpad and lack of trackpad for pc use even more expensive and inconveninent.
vs just plugging shit in via usb like every other device.
Chargers support both battery types and have for the last 15 years
Really worth getting one for one of the worst gaming controllers I do not own cause its dogshit and tv remote that requires a new battery every few years.
You talking remote controls? They use AAA
half the devices in my house use normal batteries
not phone batteries
the frick is wrong with you and what magic non existent scenario do you have on your hands?
>it's
kys
dualshock shitters make these threads to cope about their trash battery life.
DS4 and Dualsense have terrible battery life, where even a single joycon lasts longer on a single charge, Nintendo Pro and xbox lasting double.
Never had an issue with battery life on DS4 and I still don't.
Had plenty of issues with xbox controllers disconnecting after you bump against it's shitty battery pack
>Never had an issue with battery life on DS4 and I still don't.
it's been thoroughly tested to last 14 hours max on the later revisions, closer to 8 hours on the earlier revisions.
That's terrible compared to every other modern bluetooth controller including the Dualshock 3.
I get like 6-10 sessions out of one charge and if it's low I just plug a cable into it or replace it with my charged controller.
even if you're a degenerate neet that plays for 8 hours in a row it is still less of an hassle to take one controller that was charging from the console and plug in the empty one and leave it to charge.
Sorry but that's elss of an hassle than having to dump AA batteries, finding the only charger that only exists for your controller and replacing the batteries
Short battery life for something like a controller, is not the cotcha or inconvenience you think it is.
Only tv remotes for me.
There's nothing else since we don't have old shit or pointless shit like clocks or radios
But I live in europe where doing taxes takes literally 5 minutes, only time you get paper in mail is when government sends you a new id card and we have city wide wifi for free. We are a bit more advanced technologically.
>it's okay, I just charge it more often
what a pathetic cope.
What a bizarre fricking complaint
Can't you buy rechargeable batteries and a charging box in your country? It's not a lot.
I have this controller and you can just buy rechargeable batteries for it
>be xbox chad
>load controller with Eneloop batteries
>turn off controller light
>controller lasts 30+ hours
>when battery gets low, throw batteries in charger, put another pair in
>do this once a week/fortnight depending on playtime
>be snoygay
>controller lasts 4 hours
>have to be tethered to the console with the cuck cable while it charges
>do this song and dance every single play session
Internal batteries are fricking shit.
For me, the best controller ever made is the Dual Shock 3, I have 3 and 2 of them still work like a charm, the 3rd and most used one is already having battery problems. My only option is either buying a cheap second hand DS3 hoping the battery is ok, or buying a piece of shit battery from AliExpress that'd die after 2 recharges.
Microsoft is the last sane maker for using regular batteries and you are full blown moron for thinking otherwise.
Just get AA Li-ion batteries already.
You guys dont use basic rechargable AAs?
I just use Fujitsu rechargeable batteries.
buy eneloops
Rechargeable controllers sucks ass, needing to have a cable plugged into the controller itself to charge it for hours is fricking moronic. I'd rather replace the batteries in the controller in 1 minute and continue using it, then the spent batteries can be charged in a battery charger where they can take however fricking long to charge since it doesn't bother me.