Is needing to ditch your starter in a pokemon game a good or bad thing?

Is needing to ditch your starter in a pokemon game a good or bad thing?

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    in gen 5 and 8 it’s mandatory
    I actually softlocked myself on bw1. the starters are ugly, patrat’s ugly, lillipup’s ugly, monkeys are ugly. there nothing to use. thank god for bw2 or gen 5 would be unplayable

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Samurott and Serperior look cool
      disagree? you're moronic

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you’re moronic if you don’t think paraplegic fat swordsmen look cool
        damn glad I’m moronic then

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Fat
          What?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not fat
            What?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Theres nothing fat about them

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                How is this fat? Are you projecting?

                >burgers think this isn’t fat
                grim

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thats the camera angle making her look fatter than she actually is you dumbfrick

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dadbod lizard though

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                such a horrible design

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’re a moron.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus christ the anatomy is so fricking bad even for quadrupedal standards

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looks fine underwater + still has more fans than Megainium

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Meganium is a pure quadrupedal animal, Samurott is a hybrid with both quadrupedal and bipedal traits.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                So if it can switch between them at will, what’s the problem with the design?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The big difference in going from a bipedal otter to a bipedal/quadrupedal otter hybrid monster.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                So it being unexpected but keeping everything threw you off?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's how I see it and it is funny how most fanmade Samurott redesigns does worse at keeping everything from the first two forms in the line. But I also like the blue and white scheme Oshawott had which Dewott then ditched.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Pokehomosexuals have shit taste
                Woah what a surprise

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              How is this fat? Are you projecting?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Mastering Iaido makes it a paraplegic

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        samurott looks dumb as frick

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think /vp/ is only place that hates Samurott.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          /vp/ just likes to be contrarian.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's not a softlock

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah it’s just shitty game design making me use these turner abominations

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >yeah
          then why did you say it is?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            cause I couldn’t continue the game out of sheer disgust after seeing pansear

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I lied, but because I'm salty it's fine. I can say anything I want when I'm mad and it's correct
              You have mental health issues, and it makes it not surprising that you threw a fit and quit the game.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta but dude frick off you autistic frick, go sperg out about squirrels or some other shit. This anon

                in gen 5 and 8 it’s mandatory
                I actually softlocked myself on bw1. the starters are ugly, patrat’s ugly, lillipup’s ugly, monkeys are ugly. there nothing to use. thank god for bw2 or gen 5 would be unplayable

                was very clearly using a clever metaphor (BW1 = shit).

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          > turner abominations
          Yawn

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bw2
      >gives you magnemite stupidly early
      Why did give you the one electric pokemon that completely outclasses all the other electric types?

      Ampharos was good enough

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because it got an evolution in gen 4 and gen 4 cross gen evos were what was cool at the time. B2W2 was the first game with fan service distribution

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gen 5 and 8
      >not gen 6 and 7
      Gen 6 gives you objectively better pokemon (the kanto starters) 5 seconds in, and gen 7's starters are also all dogshit.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      genuinely, if we get a bw remake im waiting on home support before touching it, the early game of BW is abysmal

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ditching starters is cringe

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dont you DARE slander the aristocratic snek!

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    being able to steamroll the game with just your starter is bad game design

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I ditched my starter in hgss where you could use the pokemeter thing to get a kangaskhan in the first town

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hmmm today I will reply to shitty bait

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly sometimes I do find the starter kinda limiting in Pokemon.
    I've always wanted to use Vileplume or Tentacruel in a Kanto playthrough but I've never gotten around to it because of type overlaps with Venusaur or Blastoise, but I'm also too autistic about sentimentality to just box them.
    Maybe one day I will just say frick it and go ham with a Tentacruel - Vileplume - Arcanine team.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then do it you moron

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I just did a Kanto playthrough I'm not going to go back now.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Try Johto

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're not going to believe this.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your gold team seems like it could beat your rgby team

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The dream is to get a Pokemon game with cross save where you actually get to fight your previous Hall of Fame team.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              cool teams
              >Rollout
              I've been meaning to try Rollout on a Pokemon the next time I play GSC just haven't had the time, has it been useful?

              The dream is to get a Pokemon game with cross save where you actually get to fight your previous Hall of Fame team.

              its not quite the same, but GSC lets you fight the team of the last person you used the Mystery Gift with as the Trainer House in Viridian

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Levels look a bit low for a usual GSC playthrough, should be low-50's at Red naturally.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >female ursaring with pink bow
              cute

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Play a romhack that changes your starter or just use pkhex to edit your save.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ditching
    >Gen 1
    Weird decision, probably bad on a personal level
    >Gen 2
    moronic decision, bad on a personal level
    >Gen 3
    Either or, starters are good but so is most of the dex, neutral (there is some bias here)
    >Gen 4
    moronic decision, other Pokemon don't come close, bad on a personal level (biased against Sinnoh's encounters)
    >Gen 5
    Either or, starters are reliable but not busted while the dex has plenty of strong or more enjoyable options, neutral option (I'm very biased in favor of Unova however)
    >Gen 6
    Good decision, game hands many strong Pokemon to you throughout the game with minimal effort to obtain, game also gives you a Kanto starter for free, kinda dumb not to box your starter at least once (biased against Kalos for multiple reasons)
    >Gen 7
    Odd decision, starters are decently good here and the dex doesn't offer many good replacements you haven't already seen before, unsure where to put this
    >Gen 8
    Literally rewarded for it, overwhelming amount of replacements in the game both new and old (imo this is the problem with regional dexes with 400+ Pokemon)
    >Gen 9
    Not punished but you also don't gain much from boxing the starter, neutral option

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They should give you a completely random pokemon outside of legendaries.

    So you can get some complete shitter like feebas as a starter.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Always thought it was lame npcs and anime characters get almost any first stage mon as a starter if it wasn't a hand-me-down while we're always stuck with the Grass-Fire-Water only available at the beginning.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Emboar and Serperior are great designs, you have to be a homosexual to dislike them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      emboar is the one of the worst designs in the series and somehow still not the ugliest thing to come out of unova

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >epitome of wrestling with a pig combined with a sumo
        All it needed was a ground type, it was only hated because of the repeated fire fighting type

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Epitome? The execution is dogshit. A neat idea with a bad design.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        emboar UGLY reasons?

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the Tepig line though.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slow piece of shit with no defenses
      Useless

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn’t matter in the game campaign.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need a competitive viable team for a story playthrough.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's not about that. its just getting through the game with minimal frustrations. Like why use Serperior when your vine whip has to slap something for 20 turns versus another pokemon that sweeps

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because I like Serperior. Simple as. I would just give it moves that aren't sucky.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why would you use Vine Whip like a moron instead of Giga Drain or Leaf Storm?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              early to mid game boyjoy. You're going to be slapping things with vine whip or leaf cutter for a good 10 hours against things that are neutral or resistant to Snivvy's attacks

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                also there isn't contrary Snivvy in gen 5. So you can't even cheat your way through leafstorm spam

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy SOULLESS

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same, pigs are cute

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Пoкeмoгa

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tepig is ugly, i understand why that one trainer in the anime abandoned him

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw too autistic to not use my headcanon starters in every game paired with the correct player gender

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are you headcanons, anon?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Gen 1
        Venusaur, a lot of pieces of official art have Red with Bulbasaur and so does LGPE.
        It's also the first entry in the dex in the first ever game so it feels appropriate.
        >Gen 2
        The Cyndaquil line almost seems tailor-made for Ethan, they have the same color scheme.
        >Gen 3
        May gets Torchic, I think Blaziken and May share some superficial design traits that make them go well together (similar color scheme and similar hair style kinda)
        But you can't just choose May and pick Torchic, because that would give Brendan Mudkip, and in the official ORAS animation May has both Mudkip and Torchic while Brendan has Treecko, so you actually need to play as Brendan and pick Treecko so May can get Torchic for herself
        >Gen 4
        You pick Turtwig cause Chimchar is the most appropriate choice for Barry, they're once again color coded to match and he's a hotheaded guy who likes bruteforcing things.
        I also like to pick Lucas cause that gives Dawn Piplup which is a pretty iconic pairing with the anime.
        >Gen 5
        For B2W2 it's Nate with Tepig like in the trailer.
        For BW I feel like Hilda is very commonly associated with Tepig and Hilbert is associated with Oshawott, so for the sake of not reusing starters I go with Hilbert.
        >Gen 6
        Probably the most obvious choice, the protagonists are color coded red and blue, if you play Serena with Fennekin Calem gets Froakie.
        >Gen 7
        This is the first games where I don't actually have a set gender in mind, however the starter obviously has to be Rowlet so that Kukui can get Incineroar.
        Rowlet probably pairs better with Selene though.
        >Gen 8
        Again no gender, starter's Cinderace cause like... it's the soccer region and it's the only starter that has a soccer themeing, I feel like Game Freak kinda dropped the ball here lol
        >Gen 9
        This is the only gen that actually has me stumped cause I don't think any of the starters fit Nemona at all, but I think Meowscarada kind of has main character energy over the others? Maybe?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This is the only gen that actually has me stumped cause I don't think any of the starters fit Nemona at all, but I think Meowscarada kind of has main character energy over the others? Maybe?
          I made sure Nemona had Meowscarada as well, and I think her green bangs match as well. And so far she’s had Meowscarada in most supplementary material.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>Gen 8
          >Again no gender, starter's Cinderace cause like... it's the soccer region and it's the only starter that has a soccer themeing, I feel like Game Freak kinda dropped the ball here lol
          I have never seen a starter and region fit as much as Galar and Cinderace, the whole region is based on it's tournament style battles, hell even in the official brochure they made for SwSh they point it out lol. I also forgot in the Gotcha MV they were so confused they just gave Cinderace to both Victor and Gloria kek.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            IMO every starter could have been a different football position.
            Rillaboom could have been a goalie and Inteleon some kind of midfielder while Cinderace can stay as the striker.
            Maybe that'd make them too similar but I feel like it'd have been better than one of the three starters being so aggressively more appropriate for the setting than the other two.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Idk James Bond inspired starter also feels appropriate
              Drummer gorilla a bit less so but rock music is a big part of English pop culture I guess

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The problem with that is the idea that Galar is a representation of England as a whole, but the whole game revolves around football analogs.
                Like there's nothing at all related to James Bond outside of Inteleon himself, no side quest where you make a movie or run into like the PI6 or whatever.
                In theory Inteleon is an appropriate choice but when you actually look at the game it's just a totally random inclusion.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Chairman Rose is a Bondvillain.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ethan

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This is the first games where I don't actually have a set gender in mind, however the starter obviously has to be Rowlet so that Kukui can get Incineroar.
          >Rowlet probably pairs better with Selene though.
          So you're fine with Hau having Primarina?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Primarina doesn't really go with anyone (outside of the male MC I guess) but Kukui + Incineroar is way stronger of a pair than anything you could give Hau.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          When you play Platinum, Lucas as the MC with Piplup as his starter is canon

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's just art
            nobody in their right mind would think Turtwig + Rival makes a lick of sense

            even Snorlax is a joke based on Munchlax's nature evolving into something unexpected, exactly like Vigoroth

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >nobody in their right mind would think Turtwig + Rival makes a lick of sense
              It makes perfect sense, Barry needs a slow turtle pokemon to learn some patience and grow as a person, plus the starter colours all match their clothes in Platinum
              Lucas = Blue coat = Piplup
              Dawn = Red coat = Infernape
              Barry = Green scarf = Turtwig

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Except that throws the cool thing the game actually does with Barry's team out the window - when he realizes he needs to be better and learn to be more patient rather than rushing into things he gets a Munchlax - not only a b***h of an encounter to get on a metatextual sense but also a really slow Pokemon.
                If he has Torterra on his team from the start it throws that out the window cause he's been enthusiastically using a slow Pokemon from the start.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Both Heracross and Munchlax are part of the joke for the reason stated but they are also both portrayed as relatively hyperactive Pokemon (though somewhat chill), which obviously fits Pearl/Barry's ethos.

                Then it into evolves into Snorlax, which yes is a moral (as well as another joke).

                >If he has Torterra on his team from the start it throws that out the window cause he's been enthusiastically using a slow Pokemon from the start.
                This.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The key art's never consistent, unless there's a clear bias across multiple pieces or there's some kind of promotional animation that backs it up I don't like guiding myself by it too much.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Holy crap I'm kind of like this as well. I really love using canon teams, but it's hard for me at times. Like in RSE, Mudkip is my favorite starter, but I can't really use him if I wanna go the canon route, because May is associated with Torchic as seen in various promo art and in the anime, while Brendan is associated with Treecko as seen in that ORAS animation. Meanwhile, Mudkip is associated with... Max, an anime only character not even in the games. Also if I chose Mudkip, that would lead to May using Treecko and that just doesn't feel right to me at all, but if I went the canon route and chose Treecko instead, I wouldn't have a lot of other options for water types since they're either hard to obtain (yes I'm looking at YOU, Feebas), or I'm just simply not a fan of them. Like sure I could go with something like a Tentacruel or a Gyarados which are easily obtainable, but I like to use the mons native to the region they're in (I make an exception to Johto since most Johto mons are hard to obtain, and Kanto and Johto are closely related).

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not a thing until gen 5 introduced it's awful starters

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >children who grew up with kalos are too young to have know what gen 4 is
      Grim. I'm getting too old.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like Torchic and Treeko. Mudkips is fricking moronic though.

        I also like Infernape. Didn't need another Fire/Fighting starter, but whatever.

        Now that pig really should have been something other than Fire/Fighting.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What a shit contrarian genwunner picture.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          kids today have no idea how bad they were back then

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Contrarian
          Your underage is showing. Back then this was the majority opinion. It's why it cracks me up when I see current /vp/ shitting so hard on the new designs knowing that in 10 years they'll have to bit their lip watching younger fans say shit like Inteleon is "peak"

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a Sinnohbaby ok?!

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              *Sinnohfetus

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Please tell me this meme got continued up to nuGens (6-9) and provide evidence for it

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy frick I haven’t seen this picture in ages

        Back when moronic genwunners were in full force, glad those times are over and we can just all agree as a community that gens 8 and 9 suck dick

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a bit of a thing in Violet where Skeledirge and the megaman edgelord have complete type overlap. Skeledirge is better obviously but Ceruledge is almost like an unofficial Violet mascot so you might feel a bit of an obligation to them a try

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They each do something totally different.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >needing to ditch your starter
    >needing
    That's not a thing. The games aren't that difficult, you can clear every single pokemon gens games with your starter even if they aren't competitively viable.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Gen 5 has the worst starters ever.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had to do it in gen 6.
    Replaced froakie with a bidoof.
    boxed the KANTOOOOO pander also
    Never looked back.
    You never really understand how a portion of the gen 6 roster is when you have to use them...

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a bad thing unless for some reason you decided to play gen 5. At least one starter in every other generation is at least worth looking at.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Gen 1 starters
    All kino
    >Gen 2 starters
    All kino
    >Gen 3 starters
    All kino
    >Gen 4 starters
    All kino
    >Gen 5 starters
    Complete shit with the exception of the Serperior line
    >Gen 6 starters
    Complete shit with the exception of the Greninja line
    >Gen 7
    ALL of them are shit this time
    >Gen 8
    All of them are shit
    >Gen 9
    All of them are shit.

    Wow, Unova really did cause the irreparable ongoing dark age of this franchise.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what did you expect? they started allowing foreigners into designing their mons

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      first 4 gens all set in Japan and have great starters
      gen 5 onward all set in the West and have trash starters

      what did they mean by this?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That does explain why Hisui was the first set of starters I liked since Sinnoh.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >failed shillmon owl with a hat
          >gay typhlosion
          >Shadow the paraplegic fat swordsmen
          >good
          placucks are pathetic

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >failed shillmon owl with a hat
            It’s a nice hat,
            >gay typhlosion
            Nice projection
            >Shadow the paraplegic fat swordsmen
            It can move just fine,
            >good
            Yes

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Still glow ups and are fun designs to look at ingame.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's actually a peak straight design, I see you just don't get the allure of the beautiful carnivore...

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Typhlosion is fundamentally flawed and cannot be fixed but Hisuian Decidueye and Samurott were improvements

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The art looks like Samurott took some pointers from Palkia's technique.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              can also use judgement cut

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gen 3 starters
      >All kino
      Haha, no. All dogshit, especially the shitty grass one.
      >Gen 4 starters
      >All kino
      Haha no. All of them shit except torterra.
      >Gen 5 starters
      >Complete shit with the exception of the Serperior line
      Haha, no. All of them are steaming dogshit.
      >Gen 6 starters
      >Complete shit with the exception of the Greninja line
      Haha no. the fox is the only okay one but even then you get a KANTOOOOOOOO Starter so no reason to use it.
      >Wow, Unova really did cause the irreparable ongoing dark age of this franchise.
      This is the truth. It was a steep, sharp drop off a tall cliff from the PEAK of the franchise that was HGSS.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to love all the starters but then I grew up and became cynical and they looked like dogshit to me. So yeah, gen 5 was the start.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Gen 1
    Good except Charizard
    >Gen 2
    Good except Typhlosion
    >Gen 3
    All good
    >Gen 4
    All good
    >Gen 5
    All good
    >Gen 6
    Good except Delphox
    >Gen 7
    Carried by Incineroar
    >Gen 8
    All bad
    >Gen 9
    Good except Skeledirge
    Conclusion: Gens 3-5 are the only ones worth playing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Queerquaval
      >Good

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I ditched by Paldea starter for the ogre

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you ditched Unova starters you didn't played the game.

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bad. They're supposed to be your bro for life.

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meh, I haven't used a starter since my first run through Sun. They're just options.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is needing to ditch your starter in a pokemon game a good or bad thing?
    "NEEDING" because all options are not good in their own region is a bad thing, yes. You shouldn't feel obligated to box your starter because they're bad. All starters should be good and usable in an ideal world. And if one isn't, pick one that is.
    For example: I like Meganium, but Meganium is pretty bad, so if you can't handle it, just run Typhlosion or Feraligatr instead.
    But boxing your starter because of some self-implemented challenge is fine. Like I once ran a mono-Dark team in Black 2. Picked Tepig and boxed it once I caught a Purrloin, who served as my pseudo-starter.

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You never "need" to box your starter because any half moronic child can beat this game with any Pokemon, given enough patience. That being said, there are quite a few starters that aren't optimal choices:

    >RBY
    Squirtle is good early but as soon as you have access to rods you get a myriad of choices for Water types that outclass Blastoise. Charizard is kinda shit, but at least it doesn't have any real competition from other Fire types. Venusaur is best in type, being the fastest Grass type with Razor Leaf.
    >GSC
    Typhlosion and Feraligatr are beasts in game and don't really get much competition from other mons of their types. Meganium is not nearly as good, but your other choices for Grass types outside of Vileplume/Victreebel are atrocious so it's still worth keeping if you want a Grass type.
    >RSE
    Swampert is straight up one of the best Pokemon in the game, despite being ugly as sin. Treecko line gets outclassed by Lotad and maybe Roselia, and Tropius is an excellent HM slave if you need to have type autism on your team. Hoenn has some good Fire types and excellent Fighting types, so Blaziken is pretty replaceable too.
    >DPPt
    All of the starters are very good in game and if not best in type for a playthrough, then very close. Infernape in particular wrecks shit in these games.
    >BW/BW2
    Snivy suffers from having one of the least satisfying starter movepools in history, and is easily replaced by Lilligant early on. Tepig has a better movepool but has the misfortune of being in the same gen as Darmanitan, which is a downright broken ingame mon. Oshawatt only really faces competition from Basculin, but is otherwise mediocre.

    Not gonna bother doing gens 6 on because at that point you're not really limited by choice. Any Pokemon you use in the 3d gens are based on personal choice rather than efficiency because of the wealth of options you have at your disposal.

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snivy was the only one I liked so it being terrible was a big reason I came away from BW with a burning hatred of the game.

    So to answer your question it's a horrible thing.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Serperior is objectively good looking, and I like Emboar no matter what people say, if it wasnt a starter and was just a normal mon people would be drooling at it

    But Samurott... Im sorry bros... The moustache looks SO SO DUMB, its so stupid!!! That was a terrible design choice, Ill never get over it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      As a Samugay I'll admit that Hisui made its whiskers look nicer

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        altogether regular Samurott shouldn't have existed and Hisuian Samurott is what it needed to be from the jump

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          They can both exist as one is a samurai and the other is a ronin

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just from the artwork alone it looks less awkward than the original.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            this would have made me think twice about picking serperior

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            How? No pecs?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Less round and fat looking, stronger pose. Compare to the OG Samurott artwork, where it looks more clumsy, like it has a hard time lifting itself off the ground.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I hear you. I happen to think it’s extremely minor and can be mitigated by just making them both animate in ways that make their legs seem strong get without actually redesigning anything.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            To be honest I don't get the ungodly amounts of praise this form gets.
            The colors just don't go together at all, there's no contrast.
            It feels like an amateur job, like when you're first learning how to sprite and just use an existing Pokemon as a basis except you totally ruin its color scheme because you have no idea about color theory.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Does the shiny work for you or?

              I hear you. I happen to think it’s extremely minor and can be mitigated by just making them both animate in ways that make their legs seem strong get without actually redesigning anything.

              To be fair, that was more concerning the old art, it looks a bit better in other areas at least (even if I still think the regional looks better in movement)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                not him but it's horrible and shows Samurott's color palette was unacceptable

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No because stark whites also just don't work on Pokemon lol, it needs some texture.
                Not even Reshiram is that white.
                I just like normal Samurott's color scheme, it has contrast without going overboard.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love all starters deeply, all of them, I think they all have different characteristics and tastes, I think they all have much value and are good designs

    EXCEPT THESE IDIOTS
    they are the blandest shit Ive ever seen, only time Ive ever boxed my starter ever, hope I never do it again

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Gen 1
    All the designs are cool, and depending what you choose you can still pick plenty of other cool wild pokemon to round out your team. There are lots of options to build a good team that works around your starter.

    >Gen II
    Other than Shitorita they are still pretty good and you can build a decent team without your starter feeling redundant.

    >Gen III
    Blaziken and Mudkip are both useful and worth keeping around, but I don't even remember what the other one was called or looked like.

    >Gen IV
    This is where it starts to get shitty, but fire monkey still fits in a team nicely. The other two are just lame designs though. Can't remember how the team comp ends up because this generation was boring as frick.

    >Gen V
    Best overall pokemon generation (in the sequels at least) with tons of variety and the ability to build basically any team you can think of; which is fortunate because the starters are all total dogshit and I wouldn't ever keep any of them in my endgame team.

    >Gen VI
    Greninja is cool but I'd box the other two, again, so much variety here and the game hands you so many mons for free, there's no need to be sentimental.

    >Any subsequent generation
    Shit starters are basically the least of the series problems after this point.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Typhlosion and Blastoise are lame and Torterra is way better than both of them design-wise.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      accept her into your heart or you will never find true happiness

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        johto starter designs are bland all-around and it's easy to conflate Chikorita line's unviability with its design, even though it's decent

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          youre confusing bland with simple, simple isnt necessarily a bad thing, I think it works well for the johto trio

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >simple isnt necessarily a bad thing
            in Pokemon it more often than not is, and is the defining feature of Johto Pokemon on the whole, which has led to the decline in esteem of its dex in online discourse over the years amongst the rest of the classic gens

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              That was intentional, Johto isn't a real region, its just KANTOOOOOs backyard. Johto Pokemon are all some combination of bland, babyish, or way too simple because they're just filler so that the KANTOOOO Pokemon would look cooler more interesting. Hence all the Weakto baby pokemons, the 🙂 faces, why everything is BROWN, why the starters are such boring pieces of shit that don;t evne look like startesr and are not deserving of cool gimmicks like Megas and why and the Very few cool Johto Pokemon are trapped in KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Any Johto Pokemon having any fans at all is due to Game Freak fricking up the simple act of making something be hated and Johtogays being quite possibly moronic.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Any Johto Pokemon having any fans at all is due to Game Freak fricking up the simple act of making something be hated and Johtogays being quite possibly moronic.
                misdreavus makes my dick hard though

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Compelling argument.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    only pokefrickers hate them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >snivy line
      >not for pokefrickers
      C'mon now.

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