Quests and writing for RS2/OSRS is top tier. Gameplay is the closest to actual D&D mechanics you can get. It becomes a slog once you hit combat level 70+. They added mid level dungeons to help with that now, though.
this is accurate, also interactions with other players are much more sandbox like in approach. PKing is pretty exciting, Jagex have an interesting history with their players, they've almost always refused to roll back any major bugs (such as when PKing was enabled for certain players due to a bug with player owned house and some players lost some of the rarest items in the game.)
The whole game is kind of boring. Like EVE online it's more fun to read about than it is to play. I think that's just how the game is though. A lot of skills are mind numbingly boring to train. The game has lost a lot of its mystique it had from the early 2000's.
>"Is there anyone else that can sharpen this axe?" >"You can ask the guy in lumbridge to do it" >"Hmm this is beyond my level, go ask the guy in port sarim to repair it"
>when the player character probably lost a bit of his/her soul and mental state after killing 3 paladins a unicorn and dealing with fricked up half soulless and soulless people and having some homosexual whisper "kill urself gayet" in their ear after underground pass
To grindy to be worth my time now, i played back in 2011-2013 (not oldschool), and had a fun time with it, but i had much more time in my hands then. But i find Runescape content creators really fun to watch, some of them put a lot of time into their videos, Salted with his Swampletics series is pretty good edited and entertaining, the grind he does is absolute moronic tho, he pratically has no life.
OSRS is the GOAT MMO, ultimately held back by its sheer age. The game design is great and the developers can and do look to RS3 to see what did and didn't work, so the updates tend to be much more restrained and better thought out than most MMO's that are firing off the cuff.
But like I said the real issue is age. A game running on such old software has real trouble dealing with modern bots which are just far too advanced for a lot of the anti-cheat to deal with.
i hate when you talk to someone ingame and they always ask to friend you afterwords. like damn Black person do you ask for someone's phone number after any spontaneous conversation irl?
Been playing it again recently only at about 70 combat at the moment but the quests are pretty enjoyable and have some good writing. Game can be a grind, especially as stats increase.
Bankstanding is an extremely attractive part of the game because we get to gaze upon our collection of items from our adventures. Dungeoneering uses nothing from our adventures. It only uses our skills, which is better than nothing, but that's still half of our progress in the game that isn't being used in this "skill".
I take issue with it even being a skill itself, especially being linked as a quest requirement for other skills. Your character learns NOTHING from dungeoneering. There is nothing your character is improving at. All things the dungeoneering "skill" unlocks belong in other skills. Killing monsters belongs in slayer. Wielding weapons belongs in the combat stats, etcetera.
Then the reward system itself which is just a fricking minigame shop with a points system. You can't take anything out of the dungeons TO ADD TO YOUR PROGRESSION. You're stuck spending fricking points in a severely overpriced shop for gimmicky shit that could be added to literally ANY fricking minigame in the game.
It's shitty garbage that doesn't belong in Runescape. Frick you and all the other shit eater no standards homosexuals that whine about dungeoneering and summoning not being in OSRS.
don't waste your time with Runescape
it's a long grind with minimum payoff, also except for a few areas in the game (which also take a long grind to take to) overall it is easy as shit
there is also the problem that there is a prescribed way to play the game and any deviation from that route is essentially a waste of time given how skill isn't a factor anywhere
even in Ironman mode the same shit still applies, i don't get how there is people who make the grind even longer for themselves
>implying it's about minmaxing or playing how you want
as i said, since skill isn't a factor in like 95% of the game there is really no reason to not use the best method out there to ease the grind
there is nothing that's like "you gain XP a little slower but you have more fun in return" or "it takes more skill but you gain more XP", everything in this game is a boring slog, so why would you purposedly make it take longer to get to the point where you want to be?
like i said progress in Runescape is more based on how long you spend sitting on a computer clicking like a moron rather than how good you are at the game
even acclaimed skills like slayer are just more of the same shit, if anything every update OSRS has had since the moment it came back has made the game less grindy instead of more fun
>ie you're a minmaxing homosexual, we already said that
say what you will but OSRS is a game that demands a lot of fricking time for you to get anywhere in a decent amount of time
there is no "alternative playstyle" in the game, you are either playing it the most efficient way possible to avoid grinding for long or you are deliberately gimping yourself and spending more time in said grind, but still essentially doing the same shit.
the most devious thing about the design of the game is that it appeals more to bots doing repetitive tasks rather than human beings, it's one of the reasons why there are still so many bots in the game, and who could blame them when the design of the activities can be boiled down to a simple cookie clicker
even combat is a boring and easy slog, most of the time it just involves standing there with prayer on while your guy hits stuff (at least 95% of combat is just this)
But you're such an actual autistic minmaxing zoomer homosexual that you look up the best strategies and convince yourself playing any other way is 'a waste of time'. Imagine being you, when was the last time you had fun?
I think he Blackjacked for way too long and it ruined his brain forever.
>you are either playing it the most efficient way possible to avoid grinding for long or you are deliberately gimping yourself and spending more time in said grind, but still essentially doing the same shit.
Or
You minmaxing homosexual
You can do whatever the frick is fun
But you're such an actual autistic minmaxing zoomer homosexual that you look up the best strategies and convince yourself playing any other way is 'a waste of time'. Imagine being you, when was the last time you had fun?
its just how the game is set up
do you want to spend 50 hours doing the same boring shit, or do you want to spend 40 hours and then do something else? answer is 40 hours unless youre moronic the real answer is not to play the game because after those 40 hours theres another 60 of doing something else boring
A reason to play ironman is the fact that a ton of skills are completely useless due to the ease of buying stuff with GE and bots making gathering skills useless for profit. If you play ironman you actually have a reason to do these skills as opposed to just doing your top moneymaking method and buying everything you need.
Also, it's simply a wholesome game to grind while you watch podcasts etc.
>Also, it's simply a wholesome game to grind while you watch podcasts etc.
exactly my point, you can talk with anyone on OSRS and most of the time they won't talk back or they will be watching something else on the side
now what kind of fricking game developer makes a game where your players have to be doing something on the side because your own game is too boring to pay attention to?
But you're such an actual autistic minmaxing zoomer homosexual that you look up the best strategies and convince yourself playing any other way is 'a waste of time'. Imagine being you, when was the last time you had fun?
>Why are you playing a game you don't enjoy? I think you have issues
i don't, i enjoyed when i was a kid, i didn't know a thing about game design and i thought i was exploring a whole new world with people
when i grew up and gave the game another go because of nostalgia, i realized after 5 fricking laps how terribly the game is designed, what you are doing in level 1 is incredibly similar to what you are doing at level 99
>You can do whatever the frick is fun
i'm curious to know what the frick you consider fun in this game
imo best game ever made
but you need to be a child/neet to have the time to play it
playing it at a young age allowed me to learn skills that many adults still cant fricking grasp today. I owe a lot to this fricking game
also funny being 10 and typing at over 100 wpm
teachers looking at you like some kind of genius when really you just want to sell your fricking flax and rune essence at varrock east and have to type faster than the bots to do so
RS was a lot of people's first exposure to the internet as a community rather than as a tool or curiosity. I remember logging in when I was 12 or so and being floored that all those dozens of characters I saw were actual people. The lack of structure in player interaction plays to the game's benefit, as does the face-to-face economy. You had to go to the commerce centers of Varrock or Falador to offload your wares, be aware of scams, properly mindgame players in wilderness to maximize PKing. It's was a great experience in early internet socialization and I think that's a big part of why it's remembered to fondly. Also the OST is incredibly relaxing.
>more bots every day >gold devalues by the second thanks to reworked Bounty Hunter >no good updates for mains in 2-3 years >no good updates coming this year
it's pretty much dying
>be me >12yo poorgay >buy membership for the very first time >finally see whats on the other side of the gate north of Falador >lose myself for hours a day being moronic, not getting shit done, wasting exp, completing some quests, giving up on others because too moronic for guides, meeting people, begging for a sweet dragon longsword until membership expired
Never felt anything like it again. Tfw you will never be 12 again
Game developers love copying each other's ideas but for some reason Runescape is literally one of a kind. How fricking hard is it for some studio to make an upgraded version of RS, keeping the old medieval theme, simple 1-click grind skills and simple-rng combat. Hell it would be the perfect mobile game too.
Because OSRS isn't actually a simple game, despite appearances. Look at all the janky shit players have come up with that the developers have had to design around. From the simple shit like game tick manipulation to the ludicrously complicated shit like swapping between 3 weapons in one game tick so you can instantly use a special attack after changing from a weapon that doesn't have one (which actually got people banned initially, because Jagex didn't think it was possible).
EOC is what killed Runescape for me. The thing that really made it stand out the most from other games was the combat. As soon as it became another “press x to use skill” combat game then it went to shit from there
I've been thinking about it a lot since picking it up over Christmas holiday as a sort of small present to myself. It reminds me much more of MUDs than modern MMOs, which is what I like about it. The general quality of the quests, the writing, the content is all high enough that the game's popularity persists despite its age.
But I've been playing ironman because the economy has completely fricked gear and skill progression.
Quests and writing for RS2/OSRS is top tier. Gameplay is the closest to actual D&D mechanics you can get. It becomes a slog once you hit combat level 70+. They added mid level dungeons to help with that now, though.
this is accurate, also interactions with other players are much more sandbox like in approach. PKing is pretty exciting, Jagex have an interesting history with their players, they've almost always refused to roll back any major bugs (such as when PKing was enabled for certain players due to a bug with player owned house and some players lost some of the rarest items in the game.)
The whole game is kind of boring. Like EVE online it's more fun to read about than it is to play. I think that's just how the game is though. A lot of skills are mind numbingly boring to train. The game has lost a lot of its mystique it had from the early 2000's.
The quests are great, the writing falls usually falls between adequate and saturday morning cartoon
Also this
That form of writing is perfect for the atmosphere. Even the shittiest quest has its moments.
>"Is there anyone else that can sharpen this axe?"
>"You can ask the guy in lumbridge to do it"
>"Hmm this is beyond my level, go ask the guy in port sarim to repair it"
>when the axe merchant jokes and says you need to save his friend in the lava maze
>When the player character starts to threaten to kill people
>The shopkeeper just says "Thanks" in the end and you harass him into rewarding you
>when the player character probably lost a bit of his/her soul and mental state after killing 3 paladins a unicorn and dealing with fricked up half soulless and soulless people and having some homosexual whisper "kill urself gayet" in their ear after underground pass
Play Old School
Dl OSbuddy
Buy membership until you can pay with in-game money
Revel in your progression
>OSBuddy
Lmao
>not using runelite
>OSbuddy
Laugh at this pleb lmao
Autistic grind simulator. It's boring as shit and it will take thousands of hours of grinding to get anywhere.
To grindy to be worth my time now, i played back in 2011-2013 (not oldschool), and had a fun time with it, but i had much more time in my hands then. But i find Runescape content creators really fun to watch, some of them put a lot of time into their videos, Salted with his Swampletics series is pretty good edited and entertaining, the grind he does is absolute moronic tho, he pratically has no life.
OSRS is the GOAT MMO, ultimately held back by its sheer age. The game design is great and the developers can and do look to RS3 to see what did and didn't work, so the updates tend to be much more restrained and better thought out than most MMO's that are firing off the cuff.
But like I said the real issue is age. A game running on such old software has real trouble dealing with modern bots which are just far too advanced for a lot of the anti-cheat to deal with.
Still 100% worth trying at least.
Arguably the most tedious game of all time. Only play it if you’re a total fricking loser with literally nothing better to do at any point.
i hate when you talk to someone ingame and they always ask to friend you afterwords. like damn Black person do you ask for someone's phone number after any spontaneous conversation irl?
Been playing it again recently only at about 70 combat at the moment but the quests are pretty enjoyable and have some good writing. Game can be a grind, especially as stats increase.
Have the added dungeonnearing to OSRS yet?
Not as a skill, but they've added Raids, which are basically dungeoneering, except the rewards are tradeable.
They will add dungeoneering and summoning as soon as you have a nice day.
name one thing wrong with dungeoneering.
Bankstanding is an extremely attractive part of the game because we get to gaze upon our collection of items from our adventures. Dungeoneering uses nothing from our adventures. It only uses our skills, which is better than nothing, but that's still half of our progress in the game that isn't being used in this "skill".
I take issue with it even being a skill itself, especially being linked as a quest requirement for other skills. Your character learns NOTHING from dungeoneering. There is nothing your character is improving at. All things the dungeoneering "skill" unlocks belong in other skills. Killing monsters belongs in slayer. Wielding weapons belongs in the combat stats, etcetera.
Then the reward system itself which is just a fricking minigame shop with a points system. You can't take anything out of the dungeons TO ADD TO YOUR PROGRESSION. You're stuck spending fricking points in a severely overpriced shop for gimmicky shit that could be added to literally ANY fricking minigame in the game.
It's shitty garbage that doesn't belong in Runescape. Frick you and all the other shit eater no standards homosexuals that whine about dungeoneering and summoning not being in OSRS.
but summoning is good tho
The company running it is pants on head moronic and the game succeeds despite that.
don't waste your time with Runescape
it's a long grind with minimum payoff, also except for a few areas in the game (which also take a long grind to take to) overall it is easy as shit
there is also the problem that there is a prescribed way to play the game and any deviation from that route is essentially a waste of time given how skill isn't a factor anywhere
even in Ironman mode the same shit still applies, i don't get how there is people who make the grind even longer for themselves
>playing the meta
>not just playing how you want
Maybe don't be a minmaxing homosexual everywhere you go you minmaxing homosexual
>implying it's about minmaxing or playing how you want
as i said, since skill isn't a factor in like 95% of the game there is really no reason to not use the best method out there to ease the grind
there is nothing that's like "you gain XP a little slower but you have more fun in return" or "it takes more skill but you gain more XP", everything in this game is a boring slog, so why would you purposedly make it take longer to get to the point where you want to be?
like i said progress in Runescape is more based on how long you spend sitting on a computer clicking like a moron rather than how good you are at the game
even acclaimed skills like slayer are just more of the same shit, if anything every update OSRS has had since the moment it came back has made the game less grindy instead of more fun
>there is really no reason to not use the best method out there to ease the grind
ie you're a minmaxing homosexual, we already said that
>ie you're a minmaxing homosexual, we already said that
say what you will but OSRS is a game that demands a lot of fricking time for you to get anywhere in a decent amount of time
there is no "alternative playstyle" in the game, you are either playing it the most efficient way possible to avoid grinding for long or you are deliberately gimping yourself and spending more time in said grind, but still essentially doing the same shit.
the most devious thing about the design of the game is that it appeals more to bots doing repetitive tasks rather than human beings, it's one of the reasons why there are still so many bots in the game, and who could blame them when the design of the activities can be boiled down to a simple cookie clicker
even combat is a boring and easy slog, most of the time it just involves standing there with prayer on while your guy hits stuff (at least 95% of combat is just this)
Why are you playing a game you don't enjoy? I think you have issues.
I think he Blackjacked for way too long and it ruined his brain forever.
>you are either playing it the most efficient way possible to avoid grinding for long or you are deliberately gimping yourself and spending more time in said grind, but still essentially doing the same shit.
Or
You minmaxing homosexual
You can do whatever the frick is fun
But you're such an actual autistic minmaxing zoomer homosexual that you look up the best strategies and convince yourself playing any other way is 'a waste of time'. Imagine being you, when was the last time you had fun?
preach
"play how you want" = do the same boring shit, but longer, giving jagex more money and being a moron at the same time
just because you're an autist who constantly has to do things in the most efficient way possible doesn't mean everyone is.
its just how the game is set up
do you want to spend 50 hours doing the same boring shit, or do you want to spend 40 hours and then do something else? answer is 40 hours unless youre moronic
the real answer is not to play the game because after those 40 hours theres another 60 of doing something else boring
You literally are missing the entire point of the posts. Stop playing to get to max level. Enjoy the game without trying to powerlevel.
A reason to play ironman is the fact that a ton of skills are completely useless due to the ease of buying stuff with GE and bots making gathering skills useless for profit. If you play ironman you actually have a reason to do these skills as opposed to just doing your top moneymaking method and buying everything you need.
Also, it's simply a wholesome game to grind while you watch podcasts etc.
>Also, it's simply a wholesome game to grind while you watch podcasts etc.
exactly my point, you can talk with anyone on OSRS and most of the time they won't talk back or they will be watching something else on the side
now what kind of fricking game developer makes a game where your players have to be doing something on the side because your own game is too boring to pay attention to?
OSRS is a good way to get ADHD
>Why are you playing a game you don't enjoy? I think you have issues
i don't, i enjoyed when i was a kid, i didn't know a thing about game design and i thought i was exploring a whole new world with people
when i grew up and gave the game another go because of nostalgia, i realized after 5 fricking laps how terribly the game is designed, what you are doing in level 1 is incredibly similar to what you are doing at level 99
>You can do whatever the frick is fun
i'm curious to know what the frick you consider fun in this game
>i'm curious to know what the frick you consider fun in this game
The whole game aspect of it, you're obsessed with 'winning'
Pretty fun game. Played it a ton as a child and tried it again a couple months ago. If you like simple mmos, it's a great option.
imo best game ever made
but you need to be a child/neet to have the time to play it
playing it at a young age allowed me to learn skills that many adults still cant fricking grasp today. I owe a lot to this fricking game
>playing it at a young age allowed me to learn skills that many adults still cant fricking grasp today.
yeah its funny when people try to wheel and deal you and you're like nibba that shit didn't work on my when i was 10
also funny being 10 and typing at over 100 wpm
teachers looking at you like some kind of genius when really you just want to sell your fricking flax and rune essence at varrock east and have to type faster than the bots to do so
RS was a lot of people's first exposure to the internet as a community rather than as a tool or curiosity. I remember logging in when I was 12 or so and being floored that all those dozens of characters I saw were actual people. The lack of structure in player interaction plays to the game's benefit, as does the face-to-face economy. You had to go to the commerce centers of Varrock or Falador to offload your wares, be aware of scams, properly mindgame players in wilderness to maximize PKing. It's was a great experience in early internet socialization and I think that's a big part of why it's remembered to fondly. Also the OST is incredibly relaxing.
>more bots every day
>gold devalues by the second thanks to reworked Bounty Hunter
>no good updates for mains in 2-3 years
>no good updates coming this year
it's pretty much dying
I enjoy the game but do you think you would enjoy hitting crabs for hundreds of hours? If not it's likely not the best option for you.
>be me
>12yo poorgay
>buy membership for the very first time
>finally see whats on the other side of the gate north of Falador
>lose myself for hours a day being moronic, not getting shit done, wasting exp, completing some quests, giving up on others because too moronic for guides, meeting people, begging for a sweet dragon longsword until membership expired
Never felt anything like it again. Tfw you will never be 12 again
>Enjoying Castle Wars for hours just running around with rune claws placing shit down being completely useless
>Getting yelled at in Barbarian Assault
it was worth it before 2007 - 2009 depending on who you ask
now its just another game filled with microtransactions and the homosexuals who buy them
Game developers love copying each other's ideas but for some reason Runescape is literally one of a kind. How fricking hard is it for some studio to make an upgraded version of RS, keeping the old medieval theme, simple 1-click grind skills and simple-rng combat. Hell it would be the perfect mobile game too.
>Game developers love copying each other's ideas but for some reason Runescape is literally one of a kind.
Well, OSRS anyway.
Because OSRS isn't actually a simple game, despite appearances. Look at all the janky shit players have come up with that the developers have had to design around. From the simple shit like game tick manipulation to the ludicrously complicated shit like swapping between 3 weapons in one game tick so you can instantly use a special attack after changing from a weapon that doesn't have one (which actually got people banned initially, because Jagex didn't think it was possible).
>mfw hearing that a couple of fricks got fire capes at level 3 last week
EOC is what killed Runescape for me. The thing that really made it stand out the most from other games was the combat. As soon as it became another “press x to use skill” combat game then it went to shit from there
runescape and osrs are already the perfect mobile games though
I got my dragon trophy and haven't played since. I don't even like this game.
ITT: Don't play thing because I don't like thing
I've been thinking about it a lot since picking it up over Christmas holiday as a sort of small present to myself. It reminds me much more of MUDs than modern MMOs, which is what I like about it. The general quality of the quests, the writing, the content is all high enough that the game's popularity persists despite its age.
But I've been playing ironman because the economy has completely fricked gear and skill progression.