It's weird. I hated him when I played the original game as a teenager. Now years later I like him more than anyone else. That said, Sun, Devil and Tower are also good.
I hated him when I played the original and loved Yuko, now I like his Social Link and hate Yuko, I think its all because his voice actor is great and Yuko is horrible.
The only thing they changed is that you are no longer dating her during it with that whole thing being changed to rank 9 as it is with all the romances, but the plot of her mentoring kids is exactly the same as it was, with identical beats and resolution.
It should be illegal to make SLinks revolve around external NPCs. Nothing's fricking gayer than wasting your one on one time with someone worrying over some faceless NPC. Ryuji and Makoto in P5 also had this issue.
Miserable little homosexual.
He's unironically every single weeb, and he's not even enjoying the other good things Japan has, just the weebshit.
He's not the worst, (worst are the moron kenji and the fatso), but he's CLOSE enough.
True and truthpilled. Bearing in mind the theme of the game, Akinari is 100% the best social link.
kek this is the exact conversation I had with my wife the other night when she was watching me play >why is he sewing a kimono is he gay? >no he’s French >oh
anyone else find it funny that to progress social links properly, you basically have to enable their bad behavior? and that trying to dissuade them just makes them angry or dismissive? as I wrote that, I realized that maybe that was 100% intentional
While most of those choices are harmless and happen early in the SL when you barely know the characters so they are fine, some are really fricking stupid, like encouraging Kaz to run and I blame the experimental nature of the social links in 3, P4 and P5 are much better at properly punishing you for allowing the characters to indulge in their vices. I was hoping the remake would fix some of it but they had them remain exactly the same.
I feel like Atlus had to punish players in P4 since P3's "enabler" social links directly contradict 4's main message of looking past rosy beliefs and getting to the truth.
The worst part is that people trying to justify it as being realistic way of getting people to like you ignore that at the end the characters learn their lessons. Why would Kenji remain your friend when you encouraged his delusion to frick his teacher when you knew it was doomed from the start or Kaz taking your advice after you almost allowed him to lose his ability to run?
I believe most are fine since you do help them at the end but I would have liked some of them to be more polished and consistent. And maybe more entertaining a couple are still the same borefest they were 15 years ago.
Written by women I assume or a cultural difference. In the west, I imagine, a REAL friend would tell you when you’re acting like a fricking moron
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Door's not friends with these people. He's a sociopath gaining them for combat gains
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Anon, you know you can complete all of these social links even if you tell them what they need to hear. It just takes more effort. The music notes are counting toward the next rank not an overall bond level.
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I know that but by having the “music note” reward system it implies the devs and writers had a “right/wrong” choice in mind
>friend on the track team keeps running against his doctors wishes >TOUGHEN UP! >doctor told me I might never walk again if I keep running >YOU GOT THIS DUDE!
lmao what the frick >9 year old girl tells you she is going to run away from home >GO FOR IT! 😉
The original P3 had a kind of weird energy if you played a certain way >Only respond to slinks to placate them, don't actually try to help them >Can always respond that you "don't care" when asked about something >Can spend alot of time solo in Tartarus since your squad is often tired/absent. Makes you feel like a loner one man operation.
P3FES bored me to death after 3h so I never touched it again.
I don't remember this guy at all from all these years exposed to persona memes, was he in the original or added as enforced LGTBBQ representation for the remake?
I beat P3 and maxed every single social link and I genuinely do not remember this character at all. Like not even a little. The portrait doesn't even look familiar. I did beat it like 20 years ago but it's surprising because I recognize everyone else, even if I can't clearly remember their stories anymore. But this guy is a total blank for me. Was he only in FES or the other remakes?
Am I stuck with the major arcana that first appears during shuffle time? Hierophant showed up like 10 ten times in a row now and I want something better for my last slot.
its there, but the new vocalist kinda butchered the energy of it, she's a lot better on the other remixes though. there's some new remake exclusive songs that are very good
Yes, it's regular battle where you don't ambush the enemy. OST is good but most of the remix tracks aren't as good as the original versions. The new tracks are all good.
I cannot get over how the new version goes “bay-beee bay-beeee” instead of “babeh babeh!” It sounds moronic but listen to both and compare it sounds terrible. The slowed down vocals in the dorm music was jarring at first but grew on me
It does still have Mass Destruction but you get a different song whenever you ambush shadows. The new version of Mass Destruction sounds kinda of bad imo but you may like it. If not there's a mod on nexus to restore the original version.
>I miss the hit for a nano second because the input lag in the emulator >ENEMY ADVANTAGE >THE ENEMIES SUDDENLY HAVE 7800 IQ >Zio Yukari >Zio MC >Garu Junpei >Bufu Akihito >I lost 1:30hrs of Grinding
The good ol' FES
I am Philemon, a dweller in the rift between consciousness and unconsciousness of all souls... I am you. You are me... I shall always watch over you from within. Farewell...
>*punches Philemon* >the sprite has the same face than Tatsuya >I am Philemon, a dweller in the rift between consciousness and unconsciousness of all souls >... I am you. You are me... I shall always watch over you from within. Farewell...
kino... Kino....KINO!
Pretty sure it's the opening to Innocent Sin Online. That's always been in P3. Atlus hasn't forgotten Phil, he showed up in one of the 3DS games and talked with Joker for a bit. The real reason they don't use him is they consider his story done and they want to leave P1 and 2 gang well alone.
It's the beginning of my wife Toriumi's SL.
In that SL you interact with a character whose portrait totally doesn't look like Toriumi in an MMO called "Innocent Sin Online", and this dialogue of Phil is supposed to be the introduction to the game because Makoto was booting it up for the very first time.
It's just localization fanfic, not Atlus. It's a Megami Tensei reference in Japanese. Weird they kept it in Reload since they made the rest of the translation more literal.
FRICK.
I thought this time around they went with ISO in the Japanese version this time around too. (No, of course I didn't check. I just wanted to believe.)
So it's still MegaTen in Japanese and ISO in English?
For frick's sake.
... Well, at least 1 branch of ATLUS still remembers him ...
You could chalk it up as Nyarlathotep-brand trolling. He did create false ancestry for the Innocent Sin cast in Eternal Punishment to mock them for their failure, ISO being the same deal wouldn't be too far fetched.
The world does end in Innocent Sin, so I guess it's not entirely unexplainable it's post-apocalyptic. What is unexplainable is adding references to Tatsuya and Maya being game characters when there's already existing references to them as real people on TV. Not sure why they thought people in 2024 wouldn't get classic MegaTen references but would get P2 references instead.
Yeah he's annoying at the start I guess but maybe it's just because I'm in a similar situation with a sibling that far outshined me but I think his whole arc and story is interesting. And it's really fricking sad to think about.
I take it my homie Tanaka is there too? Does the remake have the same exploit as FES where you can leave Tanaka's S.Link for the very last day and skip Nyx entirely?
Keisuke is just like me in high school. >never feels like he deserves praise or attention >privately feels like he is the best but that others acknowledging it is embarrassing >dad wants him to become a doctor, he hates this >dad then says he can do whatever he wants since it is his life, he hates this MORE because it feels like his dad is directing him to go his own way and still in control of his future >realizes he never actually asked himself what he wanted and decides that being a doctor is what he wants for himself
besides the doctor parts because im not wealthy
This is correct.
She has a great character arc and all the pitfalls and traps along the way make it an S. Link worth the effort and care you put into it.
Looks like a man.
Is a man.
Because it is one.
It's weird. I hated him when I played the original game as a teenager. Now years later I like him more than anyone else. That said, Sun, Devil and Tower are also good.
I hated him when I played the original and loved Yuko, now I like his Social Link and hate Yuko, I think its all because his voice actor is great and Yuko is horrible.
maybe its because they changed yuko's whole social link,whats up with that? it was fine before
NTA and I only have rank 5 but so far it's identical to how it was in Vanilla.
Huh? They changed where? I played in late 2009, I barely remember shit.
The only thing they changed is that you are no longer dating her during it with that whole thing being changed to rank 9 as it is with all the romances, but the plot of her mentoring kids is exactly the same as it was, with identical beats and resolution.
It should be illegal to make SLinks revolve around external NPCs. Nothing's fricking gayer than wasting your one on one time with someone worrying over some faceless NPC. Ryuji and Makoto in P5 also had this issue.
I always liked Makoto's S. Link since you and her just play buddy cops throughout. I always thought it was one of the more fun party member S. Links.
I thought he looked gay as frick in the original but his story turned out to actually be one of the better of the classmates so I liked him by the end
What was his story again? French weeaboo tries to fit in, then his aunt suddenly dies, and then his S.Link kinda just ends?
Something like that and he gives you a gift he sewed at the end too
>Sun, Devil and Tower are also good
Based taste.
Sun is far and away the best one. Bebe is only a little better than bottom rung social links like the fat kid
>Sun is far and away the best one.
P3 Sun is the best social link in any Persona.
P5 Sun actually. But P3 Sun is top five
uhh, no good Tora's social link is no good, its in his character
Miserable little homosexual.
He's unironically every single weeb, and he's not even enjoying the other good things Japan has, just the weebshit.
He's not the worst, (worst are the moron kenji and the fatso), but he's CLOSE enough.
True and truthpilled. Bearing in mind the theme of the game, Akinari is 100% the best social link.
I'm just grinding to max charm and academics so I can have a threesome with yuka and mitsuru
paint him black and change bebe to olisadebe
Spoken like a true homosexual
>OP IS HOW THEY SAY HOMOSEXUAL - homosexual!
he's not gay, he's just french
kek this is the exact conversation I had with my wife the other night when she was watching me play
>why is he sewing a kimono is he gay?
>no he’s French
>oh
The VA did a pretty good job all things considered.
Sad cancer guy is the best social link in the series
anyone else find it funny that to progress social links properly, you basically have to enable their bad behavior? and that trying to dissuade them just makes them angry or dismissive?
as I wrote that, I realized that maybe that was 100% intentional
It’s why I have to fast forward that homosexual that actually thinks he’s going to date his teacher
That's how real life relationships work. People only want to hear what reinforces their current beliefs.
Just tell people what they want to hear and they will like you more
While most of those choices are harmless and happen early in the SL when you barely know the characters so they are fine, some are really fricking stupid, like encouraging Kaz to run and I blame the experimental nature of the social links in 3, P4 and P5 are much better at properly punishing you for allowing the characters to indulge in their vices. I was hoping the remake would fix some of it but they had them remain exactly the same.
I feel like Atlus had to punish players in P4 since P3's "enabler" social links directly contradict 4's main message of looking past rosy beliefs and getting to the truth.
It was also just frustrating how you had to encourage people to do dumb shit only for them to go
>oh I guess you knew all along...
The worst part is that people trying to justify it as being realistic way of getting people to like you ignore that at the end the characters learn their lessons. Why would Kenji remain your friend when you encouraged his delusion to frick his teacher when you knew it was doomed from the start or Kaz taking your advice after you almost allowed him to lose his ability to run?
I believe most are fine since you do help them at the end but I would have liked some of them to be more polished and consistent. And maybe more entertaining a couple are still the same borefest they were 15 years ago.
Written by women I assume or a cultural difference. In the west, I imagine, a REAL friend would tell you when you’re acting like a fricking moron
Door's not friends with these people. He's a sociopath gaining them for combat gains
Anon, you know you can complete all of these social links even if you tell them what they need to hear. It just takes more effort. The music notes are counting toward the next rank not an overall bond level.
I know that but by having the “music note” reward system it implies the devs and writers had a “right/wrong” choice in mind
I think the intended message behind the "Yes dude do it!" Social Links from P3 is that you only live once.
>friend on the track team keeps running against his doctors wishes
>TOUGHEN UP!
>doctor told me I might never walk again if I keep running
>YOU GOT THIS DUDE!
lmao what the frick
>9 year old girl tells you she is going to run away from home
>GO FOR IT! 😉
The original P3 had a kind of weird energy if you played a certain way
>Only respond to slinks to placate them, don't actually try to help them
>Can always respond that you "don't care" when asked about something
>Can spend alot of time solo in Tartarus since your squad is often tired/absent. Makes you feel like a loner one man operation.
I'LL BE BACK
>Him doing the Terminator bit after telling me how his aunt died
P3FES bored me to death after 3h so I never touched it again.
I don't remember this guy at all from all these years exposed to persona memes, was he in the original or added as enforced LGTBBQ representation for the remake?
>being this clueless
frick off
You're replying to AI
I beat P3 and maxed every single social link and I genuinely do not remember this character at all. Like not even a little. The portrait doesn't even look familiar. I did beat it like 20 years ago but it's surprising because I recognize everyone else, even if I can't clearly remember their stories anymore. But this guy is a total blank for me. Was he only in FES or the other remakes?
Am I stuck with the major arcana that first appears during shuffle time? Hierophant showed up like 10 ten times in a row now and I want something better for my last slot.
does P3R still have the BABY BABY BABY song? How is the OST?
its there, but the new vocalist kinda butchered the energy of it, she's a lot better on the other remixes though. there's some new remake exclusive songs that are very good
Yes, it's regular battle where you don't ambush the enemy. OST is good but most of the remix tracks aren't as good as the original versions. The new tracks are all good.
I cannot get over how the new version goes “bay-beee bay-beeee” instead of “babeh babeh!” It sounds moronic but listen to both and compare it sounds terrible. The slowed down vocals in the dorm music was jarring at first but grew on me
It does still have Mass Destruction but you get a different song whenever you ambush shadows. The new version of Mass Destruction sounds kinda of bad imo but you may like it. If not there's a mod on nexus to restore the original version.
Avant garde!
bebe bebe bebe bebe
>I miss the hit for a nano second because the input lag in the emulator
>ENEMY ADVANTAGE
>THE ENEMIES SUDDENLY HAVE 7800 IQ
>Zio Yukari
>Zio MC
>Garu Junpei
>Bufu Akihito
>I lost 1:30hrs of Grinding
The good ol' FES
I am Philemon, a dweller in the rift between consciousness and unconsciousness of all souls... I am you. You are me... I shall always watch over you from within. Farewell...
>Punches you
You just punched yourself, lol.
Worth it, he killed BILLIONS
>It would be more accurate to say YOU
>*punches Philemon*
>the sprite has the same face than Tatsuya
>I am Philemon, a dweller in the rift between consciousness and unconsciousness of all souls
>... I am you. You are me... I shall always watch over you from within. Farewell...
kino... Kino....KINO!
>Philemon
If there's something to be grateful about is that this remake reminded ATLUS that Phil exists.
Woah what the frick? Where's this?
Arcade game
Pretty sure it's the opening to Innocent Sin Online. That's always been in P3. Atlus hasn't forgotten Phil, he showed up in one of the 3DS games and talked with Joker for a bit. The real reason they don't use him is they consider his story done and they want to leave P1 and 2 gang well alone.
It's the beginning of my wife Toriumi's SL.
In that SL you interact with a character whose portrait totally doesn't look like Toriumi in an MMO called "Innocent Sin Online", and this dialogue of Phil is supposed to be the introduction to the game because Makoto was booting it up for the very first time.
lolno
It's just localization fanfic, not Atlus. It's a Megami Tensei reference in Japanese. Weird they kept it in Reload since they made the rest of the translation more literal.
FRICK.
I thought this time around they went with ISO in the Japanese version this time around too. (No, of course I didn't check. I just wanted to believe.)
So it's still MegaTen in Japanese and ISO in English?
For frick's sake.
... Well, at least 1 branch of ATLUS still remembers him ...
Honestly it makes sense. Innocent Sin Online is clearly a post apocalyptic SMT style game and Maya dresses as Heroine in this.
You could chalk it up as Nyarlathotep-brand trolling. He did create false ancestry for the Innocent Sin cast in Eternal Punishment to mock them for their failure, ISO being the same deal wouldn't be too far fetched.
The world does end in Innocent Sin, so I guess it's not entirely unexplainable it's post-apocalyptic. What is unexplainable is adding references to Tatsuya and Maya being game characters when there's already existing references to them as real people on TV. Not sure why they thought people in 2024 wouldn't get classic MegaTen references but would get P2 references instead.
Easily the worst social link of all time and a blight on P3, frick this homosexual
I like Moon, Emperor and Justice more
fat poltard?
Yeah he's annoying at the start I guess but maybe it's just because I'm in a similar situation with a sibling that far outshined me but I think his whole arc and story is interesting. And it's really fricking sad to think about.
Which Mitama is the best Mitama?
For me is Aramitama
My friend, Nigi Mitama
my nigi
I wish they didnt ruin his translation, his japanese is actually amazing but they make him speak like a moron
He doesn’t speak like a moron though. He might ask what a phrase means here and there but otherwise he just speaks with a French accent
they mix japanese and english into his translation, he basically only speaks Japanese.
>JP: 素晴らしい
>EN:SUBARASHII, WONDERFUL
>singeplayer game
>social
>I literally created a Tri-Elemental (Bufu, Agi, Zio) Yomotsu Shikome before the June boss, in FES, by doing fusions at random
Kek
I take it my homie Tanaka is there too? Does the remake have the same exploit as FES where you can leave Tanaka's S.Link for the very last day and skip Nyx entirely?
there is a online compendium for FES? I need a Fire resistance-inmune Persona (besides of Nekomata)
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p3f/personas
You can buy a social link from Amazon!
Keisuke is just like me in high school.
>never feels like he deserves praise or attention
>privately feels like he is the best but that others acknowledging it is embarrassing
>dad wants him to become a doctor, he hates this
>dad then says he can do whatever he wants since it is his life, he hates this MORE because it feels like his dad is directing him to go his own way and still in control of his future
>realizes he never actually asked himself what he wanted and decides that being a doctor is what he wants for himself
besides the doctor parts because im not wealthy
>I don't want to be X
>oh wait yes I do but now I'm doing it for the RIGHT reason
iirc this was how at least half of Persona 4's social links went
It was always inside you, but you just needed to look within, find it, and accept it. That's the theme.
Thats not The Sun, The Hermit, The Devil, or The Tower
The best slink in all persona is Ai Ebihara
I don't know about BEST in all Persona but it's probably one of the better 4 links
her false romance route is genuinely fantastic
This is correct.
She has a great character arc and all the pitfalls and traps along the way make it an S. Link worth the effort and care you put into it.
Gay Frenchie